Rebel News Podcast - What comes first： Modern planes for Canadian fighter pilots, or Trudeau’s luxury jet？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, who will get their new aircraft first?

00:00:02.780 Modern planes for our brave Canadian fighter pilots,

00:00:05.460 or Justin Trudeau's new luxury jet?

00:00:08.440 It's June 18th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:16.780 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:20.600 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:24.320 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:27.300 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:00:31.280 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:37.940 I saw this story today on the Trudeau-loving CTV.

00:00:42.400 You remember Justin Trudeau's luxury vacation to India?

00:00:45.680 The one where he went for eight days or so,

00:00:47.440 but seven of those days were vacationing on the taxpayer's dime?

00:00:51.280 You know, the one where he literally brought a new dress-up costume

00:00:55.480 for every single day.

00:00:56.740 Even when his hosts dressed, you know, normally. 1.00

00:01:00.980 You know, the trip where he dressed, danced, like a fool, 0.99

00:01:04.860 even after the disastrous fiasco of him inviting 0.99

00:01:07.520 a real terrorist, Jasper Atwal, on the trip.

00:01:11.020 Trudeau blamed the Indian government for that fiasco,

00:01:15.320 the trip that was so vain and self-indulgent,

00:01:17.760 that Trudeau actually brought his own Indian cuisine chef

00:01:21.980 on the plane with him from Canada with him.

00:01:25.100 That trip? Remember that trip?

00:01:27.500 Well, apparently on the flight over, one of the gauges on the airplane flickered a bit.

00:01:31.300 You know, the needle wavered a bit.

00:01:34.220 I'm guessing something that trivial happens on every single flight

00:01:37.260 of every single jet plane in the world.

00:01:39.100 They're extremely complicated machines.

00:01:40.320 That's why they're maintained so carefully.

00:01:42.880 Let me read how serious this was.

00:01:45.840 I'm kidding, of course, but CTV was in full panic mode.

00:01:48.700 Here, let me read from the story.

00:01:50.200 The story was called Malfunctioning Censor,

00:01:52.940 Another Snag for Prime Minister's Aging Plane.

00:01:55.980 And the story wrote,

00:01:58.540 Emails obtained by CTV's Mercedes Stevenson

00:02:01.000 through an access to information request

00:02:02.760 show that a gauge designed to monitor engine temperature

00:02:05.920 began fluctuating randomly during the February 16th flight to New Delhi

00:02:10.040 and that a ground crew at a scheduled refueling stop in Rome

00:02:13.060 found a few loose wires.

00:02:17.160 So that's all you got?

00:02:19.500 That's what you got?

00:02:20.120 There was a loose wire and then there was a gauge that fluctuated a bit?

00:02:24.920 You guys okay?

00:02:25.980 You need grief counseling or something?

00:02:28.600 Well, isn't it obvious?

00:02:30.520 I mean, we need to buy the Prime Minister a brand new VIP-style jet

00:02:34.680 to compete with Donald Trump, who's getting a new 747, you know.

00:02:38.200 The CTV article doesn't even pretend it's not lobbying for this.

00:02:41.840 They quote Greg McEachern,

00:02:43.940 Yeah, he's a liberal lobbyist?

00:02:47.360 Saying we absolutely should buy his pal Trudeau a new jet.

00:02:52.140 I mean, when Trudeau jets down to the Bahamas

00:02:55.060 to visit his pal the Aga Khan on that private billionaire island,

00:02:58.880 he's got to arrive in style, people.

00:03:01.280 You can't have a loose wire.

00:03:04.640 Look, I know why the United States needs Air Force One.

00:03:07.240 It's not just a way to travel.

00:03:08.900 It's a mobile White House designed to be a command center

00:03:11.660 for the entire U.S. Armed Forces in case of a nuclear attack.

00:03:14.760 It's nice inside the jet, I'm sure, but it's not built for nice.

00:03:19.360 It's built to withstand an electromagnetic pulse

00:03:22.800 to command the whole military in World War III.

00:03:26.960 It's a bunker plane.

00:03:28.660 Trudeau's plane?

00:03:30.040 Yeah, not so much.

00:03:31.040 It's to fly Trudeau on his, what, 56 vacations so far since becoming PM?

00:03:35.440 56 like to India.

00:03:36.660 Sorry.

00:03:36.800 If you've got an engine gauge that's flickering a bit, that's okay, buddy.

00:03:42.440 Giving lectures on male feminism at 30,000 feet or whatever he does up there

00:03:47.000 is not quite as important as commanding NATO.

00:03:51.580 Now, little pipsqueaks in the third world, little tyrants, dictators, 1.00

00:03:54.460 they love their jets.

00:03:56.340 It's proof that they're very important.

00:03:58.140 Here's Prince al-Walid of Saudi Arabia.

00:04:00.640 Look at this.

00:04:01.740 All right, we get it, buddy.

00:04:02.740 You've got a lot of OPEC money and you want to show it off.

00:04:06.600 Trudeau, like his father, loves that third world aesthetic.

00:04:11.060 He likes the little tyrants.

00:04:12.700 His power, this is more of Al-Walid's plane, pretty fancy, eh? 0.98

00:04:17.000 His power is related to the size of his plane,

00:04:19.760 so he can't possibly be embarrassed by flying around in a version

00:04:24.260 of our mini Air Force One that we have in Canada.

00:04:26.740 So Trudeau wants a new plane and on cue.

00:04:29.480 So many liberals and even red Tories have chimed in.

00:04:31.920 Yeah, give him his plane.

00:04:33.420 It's about safety.

00:04:34.500 You know, there's a loose wire, you know.

00:04:36.960 With liberal journalists, it's obvious why they want this.

00:04:39.100 They want to be able to fly with the prime minister in luxury, too.

00:04:41.780 It's why they never criticize Trudeau's 56 trips.

00:04:44.700 I mean, wouldn't you love to have gone to India with Trudeau to work?

00:04:51.160 And, of course, you only work as hard as Trudeau does,

00:04:53.520 so a few hours a day.

00:04:54.520 And in that trip, he only worked one day out of eight.

00:04:57.800 But here's the thing.

00:04:58.640 That jet is old, to be sure.

00:05:00.300 It's about 30 years old.

00:05:01.980 But it's newer than the CF-18 jets that our Canadian fighter pilots use.

00:05:06.540 And because of Trudeau's spitting match with Donald Trump,

00:05:10.280 Trudeau has said he's ruling out the F-35 replacement,

00:05:13.260 that our allies are already flying,

00:05:16.400 just because Donald Trump doesn't like Trudeau's subsidies to bombard you.

00:05:20.080 So that's how Trudeau's hitting back.

00:05:21.420 So Trudeau is punishing our fighter pilots.

00:05:26.300 So we're going to buy some used jets from Australia,

00:05:29.300 some hand-me-downs to cover the gap while we look at some other choice,

00:05:34.440 maybe in the future.

00:05:35.380 Say, do you think the odd CF-18 jet has a loose wire or a flickering gauge?

00:05:42.340 Yeah, of course they do.

00:05:43.400 But do you see CCTV going to the wall to get new jets for them?

00:05:47.100 No, no, no.

00:05:48.080 I predict that Justin Trudeau will get himself a new super-luxury jet

00:05:52.320 before he gives our Air Force new jets to the knee just to stay safe and do their duties.

00:05:56.840 He will send our people to Mali in Africa in rusty old gear 1.00

00:06:01.460 while he takes the good stuff for himself.

00:06:03.440 And CCTV and the rest of the media, they don't care.

00:06:07.980 Because they'll be able to fly with Trudeau in style

00:06:10.540 as they type up their latest glowing press releases for him.

00:06:15.280 Stay with us for more on this subject with Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:06:18.120 I think a lot of Canadian families have a little playground in their backyard.

00:06:38.120 By playground, I mean like some sort of play structure, a swing set, a slide.

00:06:41.960 Maybe it has other, like a little climb-y thing.

00:06:45.100 You can get them at Home Depot, Costco.

00:06:48.040 Usually you assemble them a bit.

00:06:49.880 You know, I've seen really good ones for like $1,500.

00:06:53.520 I'm talking they're the ultimate.

00:06:56.020 It takes about a day, if you're all thumbs like me, two days to assemble them.

00:07:00.380 It's like a really tricky IKEA set.

00:07:02.800 And then it's there forever.

00:07:04.220 Well, how did Justin Trudeau manage to bill taxpayers for a $7,500 play structure

00:07:14.740 for his part-time summer residence at Harrington Lake?

00:07:19.280 And why are taxpayers putting the bill for his kids at all?

00:07:23.560 Joining us now to talk about this and even more serious subjects is our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:07:27.420 the Alberta Bureau Chief for the Rebel.

00:07:29.000 Sheila, great to see you again.

00:07:30.760 Hey, Ezra.

00:07:31.300 Thanks for having me.

00:07:32.040 You know, those kids, and I'm certainly not going to blame the kids.

00:07:36.020 They're of tender years.

00:07:36.880 They just do what mom and dad tell them to.

00:07:38.900 They dress up in fancy Bollywood clothes and do namaste when mom and dad tell them to.

00:07:45.460 So absolutely not cracking down on the kids like kids be kids.

00:07:50.240 They do what their parents say.

00:07:51.120 This is Justin Trudeau and his enabler, Gerald Butz, just wringing everything they can out

00:07:59.400 of the taxpayers' budget.

00:08:00.780 $7,500 for a kid's play structure.

00:08:06.040 Ezra, I'm so enthralled by the fact that he spent $7,500 on a play set.

00:08:14.220 I actually emailed the PMO because I want details.

00:08:17.880 I want a picture.

00:08:19.200 I want to know what it costs to be delivered.

00:08:22.480 Maybe a lot of the cost is inflated labor costs because we have to hire a union worker and do

00:08:27.900 a gender-based analysis assessment on everything.

00:08:30.580 I'm not sure.

00:08:31.760 I want to know how you get a play set for $7,500.

00:08:35.760 But more over to your point, Justin Trudeau is a millionaire.

00:08:41.360 He came into the office of prime minister as a millionaire.

00:08:45.200 And just last April, he gave himself a raise.

00:08:47.740 So now that he makes $345,000 per year, surely to God, he can buy his own kids a play set.

00:08:59.740 You know what?

00:09:00.640 I'm fine with maintaining the upkeep on Harrington Lake.

00:09:03.900 Like, we've owned the property since 1951.

00:09:07.320 Sure, it needs a little work and maintenance.

00:09:09.000 Boat dock replaced here and there.

00:09:10.600 But a $7,500 play set?

00:09:12.520 Why can't Trudeau pay for his own kids?

00:09:14.340 Yeah, it's so weird.

00:09:15.520 I mean, and this weirdness is just absolutely abided by the media party.

00:09:20.740 Yeah.

00:09:21.320 And I think they started very brazenly right after Trudeau became PM.

00:09:25.880 He hired, through the federal bureaucracy, not one, but two nannies.

00:09:31.480 I don't begrudge the Trudeaus their nannies. 1.00

00:09:34.120 I mean, Angelina Jolie has three nannies. 0.98

00:09:36.980 So why shouldn't our celebrity wannabe fake, you know, celebrity PM get his nannies?

00:09:42.860 But since when, in all of Canadian history, do we pay for the nannies for any public official?

00:09:52.540 No MP, no cabinet minister, no one else in government has nannies on the government. 0.98

00:09:59.900 Pay for your own bloody nannies. 1.00

00:10:01.960 Pay for your own babysitter. 0.97

00:10:03.660 Have your mom come in and the kid's grandma come in and do it. 1.00

00:10:06.800 But the media just said, oh yeah, no, that's totally fine.

00:10:11.020 And if they got away with that, they'll get away with it.

00:10:14.160 I long for the days when a $16 orange juice was enough to get someone sacked from cabinet.

00:10:20.960 You know, that's so true.

00:10:22.120 This is stuff the royal family doesn't even get away with.

00:10:25.160 You know, they, you know, primarily they only have one nanny. 1.00

00:10:29.800 Justin Trudeau has two.

00:10:31.300 I mean, but there's, it's so much other stuff.

00:10:33.940 And I think Harrington Lake, all these renos at Harrington Lake are really revealing just how much they're trying to rake out of the taxpayer.

00:10:41.700 I mean, the amount that we're paying just for Trudeau's recreation time.

00:10:47.780 I mean, the snow removal budget at Harrington Lake is $45,000 a year.

00:10:55.040 It jumped up $17,000 because Trudeau doesn't know how to use a snow shovel and shovel off the little part around his fire pit.

00:11:03.080 And then he's demanding that the taxpayer pay to groom his cross-country ski trails so that for the, you know, one or two days a month that he's out there, the trails are always ready for him.

00:11:14.820 Yeah.

00:11:14.980 I mean, let's take both of those things.

00:11:16.580 I mean, how did, I mean, snow, how did snow, I think it was $17,000 and now it's $45,000.

00:11:23.220 Maybe I got those reversed or mixed up.

00:11:25.360 But how do you triple the amount of money it costs to clear snow?

00:11:30.480 I mean, snow is snow.

00:11:32.200 Who got that contract?

00:11:33.560 How do you even bill $45,000 a year?

00:11:36.560 That's like a full-time job for something that's seasonal.

00:11:41.320 Like, that sounds like a team of people.

00:11:43.640 How do you even spend $45,000?

00:11:45.760 You could have someone working full-time for 10 months, for all year to do that.

00:11:52.200 And, you know, I've gone cross-country skiing a bit in my life.

00:11:57.320 I'd love to see that.

00:11:58.320 I'd love to see that.

00:11:59.780 You've got this gorgeous large property.

00:12:02.100 Isn't the fun?

00:12:03.020 You're going out in unspoiled private places.

00:12:06.160 Does he think he's like a professional ski hill or something?

00:12:10.800 I mean, he used to be a snowboarding instructor.

00:12:13.360 Surely he can handle raw powder.

00:12:16.340 The luxury here.

00:12:18.620 And all of it approved by Gerald Butts, of course.

00:12:21.260 Because he's loading up at the trough, too.

00:12:23.500 He was the guy who paid himself, what, more than half a million bucks

00:12:25.880 just to move down the street from Toronto to Ottawa.

00:12:28.800 And it was only when it was discovered that he said,

00:12:30.840 oh, maybe I'll give some back.

00:12:32.000 These guys are Libranos. 0.99

00:12:34.320 Yeah, they are.

00:12:34.940 They are.

00:12:35.220 I mean, Justin Trudeau tried to bill the taxpayer.

00:12:38.220 I think it was close to $65,000 to build him a sauna

00:12:42.520 and a new deck to encompass the sauna.

00:12:45.620 Somebody at the PMO or at the National Capital Commission

00:12:48.820 put the brakes on that, and Trudeau actually bought his own sauna,

00:12:52.960 which he'll probably take out of there.

00:12:55.120 They'll probably take the drapes, too.

00:12:56.600 But, I mean, it still cost $4,500 to run electricity

00:13:02.540 to his electricity sucker sauna.

00:13:05.660 You can wire a modest-sized house, the entire house, for less than that.

00:13:11.020 So, you know, I wonder what the contracts are like for some of the labor being done

00:13:16.660 and who's doing the labor because all of this just seems so inflated.

00:13:21.100 I mean, there were three patio umbrellas to the tune of $1,000 each.

00:13:27.260 I don't want the prime minister sitting underneath, you know, a Coors Light garage sale umbrella,

00:13:31.860 but $1,000 a piece?

00:13:34.260 You can pay me $1,000 for the summer, and every time Trudeau's there, I'll stand with an umbrella

00:13:40.480 over his head.

00:13:41.280 I'll do it for cheap.

00:13:42.320 It's funny you mention that because, of course, I mean, there's long been rumors that Margaret Trudeau

00:13:47.840 has actually been living full-time at Harrington Lake.

00:13:50.100 I haven't seen corroboration of that, but here's what I do know.

00:13:54.900 The prime minister has his official residence at 24 Sussex Drive.

00:13:59.240 That's not fancy enough for him.

00:14:01.160 It was fine for the Harpers for nine years, but it's not fancy enough for him.

00:14:04.300 So he lives across the street in Rideau Hall, but his chef still uses 24 Sussex Drive.

00:14:13.900 So Trudeau's own chef has one property.

00:14:18.380 Trudeau and his family live at Rideau Hall, and here's Harrington Lake, the third residence.

00:14:23.480 Whether or not his mom Margaret lives there, I don't know.

00:14:26.060 This is Mr. Carbon Footprint.

00:14:28.100 You have to make better choices.

00:14:30.120 You know, we have to do a gender analysis, as you jokingly said.

00:14:34.500 Well, he certainly didn't bother waiting before wiring a sauna.

00:14:40.200 Those are three houses, and that's nothing compared to the story we see leaked to CTV.

00:14:46.100 Mercedes Stevenson said she did an access to information request.

00:14:49.020 I'm going to guess she was tipped off to do one about the plane.

00:14:53.100 Trudeau's plane going to India, some gauge was fluctuating.

00:14:56.500 Yeah, that is likely true.

00:14:59.760 So now we have the whole narrative.

00:15:02.480 In the entire media party, we must buy an entirely new luxury Air Force One-style jet for Trudeau,

00:15:09.920 because some gauge was flickering.

00:15:12.200 But our fighter pilots, they can keep using 36-year-old CF-18s that we're replacing with used Australian jets.

00:15:22.240 He's, no one in his life has ever said no to him.

00:15:25.820 And you'd think that the opposition would, or the media would, and I don't know if the opposition, but the media is loving it.

00:15:33.660 Yeah, they can't get enough of it.

00:15:35.100 And it's so funny that you mentioned that our military is going to be, you know,

00:15:40.280 they're buying something akin to sort of Australian hand-me-downs.

00:15:45.560 While, you know, Trudeau will spare no expense for himself and his family at the expense of the Canadian taxpayer.

00:15:54.340 But he also said to a wounded veteran in Edmonton that they were asking for more than he was willing to give.

00:16:02.780 But Trudeau is certainly willing to give himself any perk that he can get his hands on.

00:16:06.700 Yeah.

00:16:07.160 No one in his whole life has ever said you're asking more than we can give to Trudeau.

00:16:11.600 And if they did, they were probably promptly fired by Gerald Butts.

00:16:15.420 Well, Sheila, it's very frustrating.

00:16:17.060 And it comes hard on the heels of a study that does not surprise me at all,

00:16:21.520 that if this trade war with the United States comes to pass,

00:16:25.440 it will throw Canada into a deep recession.

00:16:28.080 It won't make a dent on the U.S. economy that's growing at an enormous rate.

00:16:33.240 It'll throw our country into recession.

00:16:35.460 We've started to see job losses.

00:16:38.080 Our dollar is weak.

00:16:39.560 The oil patch has not come back, unlike the oil patch in the States.

00:16:42.660 I think Justin Trudeau really doesn't care as long as he and his gold-digging wife

00:16:47.260 get their billionaire island vacations in the Bahamas.

00:16:52.120 And, you know, he's had, what, 56 vacations since becoming PM?

00:16:56.480 I think it's gross.

00:16:57.360 My last question to you, Sheila, is at what point in time does the let-them-eat-cake routine

00:17:02.200 start to trickle down to severely normal people and you have a Doug Ford moment?

00:17:07.780 Because I don't think the media will ever criticize him.

00:17:10.180 I think the media will love him to the end because they think they can get a bauble or two from His Majesty.

00:17:14.840 But at what point do severely normal Canadians say,

00:17:17.480 you know what, you air-headed prince, you showboat, you clothes horse, you shallow-minded inheritor,

00:17:30.300 go back home.

00:17:33.000 We want a Doug Ford style in the gravy train PM.

00:17:35.740 Is that ever going to happen?

00:17:38.260 Do you know what?

00:17:38.740 I think it is happening.

00:17:40.020 I think that fruit is right on the tree if someone will come along and pick it.

00:17:43.480 But I don't think that there's a conservative politician out there willing to sort of get in front of that parade

00:17:51.660 that's already happening.

00:17:53.180 And that's the real sad thing for people like me and you and I guess the rest of the conservative movement,

00:17:59.140 the grassroots conservative movement,

00:18:00.640 who are sick of this sense of entitlement and elitism that we see from Justin Trudeau.

00:18:05.840 There are no leaders.

00:18:07.120 There is no Doug Ford at the federal level who can come along and save us.

00:18:12.940 Yeah.

00:18:13.200 When Jason Kenney briefly said something like what I did,

00:18:16.800 that Trudeau was a shallow finger bowl,

00:18:18.840 the CBC media shamed him into apologizing.

00:18:21.640 A week later.

00:18:23.660 We won't hear any more of that uppity talk from a conservative politician.

00:18:26.920 The CBC tone police says,

00:18:29.000 Sheila, I'm mad I could talk about this for a great length,

00:18:31.740 but I know we've kept you long enough.

00:18:33.300 Great to see you again.

00:18:34.000 Keep up the fight.

00:18:34.920 And congrats again on your book,

00:18:37.500 The Case Against David Suzuki.

00:18:38.900 It's been number one on Amazon.ca for pretty much a week,

00:18:42.600 even though we're giving away for free on SuzukiBook.com.

00:18:45.280 It's also number one on the Kindle store.

00:18:47.580 So congrats on that.

00:18:49.760 Thanks.

00:18:50.060 And I guess thanks to everybody out there who's supporting the work we do here

00:18:54.780 at The Rebel by buying that book and making sure that everybody in the whole world knows

00:18:58.940 what a fraud David Suzuki is.

00:19:01.200 Yeah. 0.71

00:19:01.380 Isn't that the truth?

00:19:02.200 Well,

00:19:02.360 he and Trudeau,

00:19:03.720 they like the lifestyle.

00:19:04.760 That's for sure.

00:19:05.740 All right,

00:19:06.000 Sheila,

00:19:06.180 great to see you.

00:19:06.960 We'll keep in touch.

00:19:07.860 That's Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:19:08.580 our good friend,

00:19:09.500 our Alberta Bureau Chief.

00:19:10.880 I'm curious too,

00:19:11.680 Sheila,

00:19:11.960 I know you're about to go,

00:19:13.400 but if you ever find out what the 7500 playground looks like,

00:19:16.760 you've got to send me a picture.

00:19:18.020 I'll tell my kids if they get straight A's in school,

00:19:21.420 maybe we can take out a second mortgage on it.

00:19:23.640 I wonder if you get a mortgage made.

00:19:25.180 All right,

00:19:25.740 take care.

00:19:26.100 We'll let you go.

00:19:27.380 Thanks,

00:19:27.800 Bob.

00:19:27.820 Stay with us,

00:19:28.280 folks.

00:19:28.540 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:19:40.720 Welcome back.

00:19:41.620 Well,

00:19:41.800 a few weeks ago,

00:19:43.080 this tweet was making the rounds by all the fancy people.

00:19:47.560 It purported to show cages in which the evil Donald Trump was holding children detained

00:19:54.980 for illegally crossing the border from Mexico.

00:19:58.820 All the fancy people were tweeting it,

00:20:00.900 and they didn't check that image was taken in 2014 when St. Barack Obama was the president.

00:20:09.040 Well,

00:20:09.260 that story was quickly thrown down the memory hole,

00:20:11.880 but it's come back with a vengeance because,

00:20:13.740 hey,

00:20:14.180 if Barack Obama was indeed treating children that way,

00:20:18.220 maybe Donald Trump was doing the same or worse.

00:20:21.020 And in fact,

00:20:21.600 there have been a slew of stories implying that Donald Trump puts kids into cages,

00:20:28.180 including this image that literally shows a kid in a cage.

00:20:34.160 This has been tweeted and retweeted,

00:20:36.500 seen millions of times.

00:20:38.780 And yes,

00:20:39.620 it is a cage,

00:20:40.400 but no,

00:20:40.760 Donald Trump didn't put that kid in there.

00:20:42.220 That was a protest against Donald Trump.

00:20:46.400 That was an activist's own child being used as a prop.

00:20:51.280 Don't tell that to social media,

00:20:53.140 though.

00:20:53.360 Well,

00:20:54.140 we know a reporter who actually went to one of these facilities for minor children who illegally sneak

00:21:00.780 across the border unaccompanied by an adult,

00:21:03.140 or in some cases,

00:21:04.500 accompanied by an adult who's also incarcerated.

00:21:07.080 I'm talking about our friend Joel Pollack,

00:21:09.600 the senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com,

00:21:11.580 who joins us now.

00:21:12.540 Joel,

00:21:12.740 great to see you.

00:21:13.420 What an interesting story.

00:21:14.820 You actually went into one of these facilities,

00:21:16.900 didn't you?

00:21:18.660 I went into a facility that's a shelter for the children once they are taken from their families,

00:21:27.040 which happens when the parents are arrested.

00:21:29.180 Many of the kids in that shelter actually come to the border on their own,

00:21:33.600 about 90%,

00:21:34.420 actually,

00:21:35.160 because most of the children that we're dealing with at the border are unaccompanied minors.

00:21:41.340 But I went to the shelter that houses these unaccompanied minors and those who've been separated from their parents,

00:21:46.480 or rather,

00:21:46.940 I should say,

00:21:47.300 from the adults who brought them,

00:21:48.340 because one of the reasons they may have been separated is we don't know if their parents really are their parents.

00:21:53.140 And that's a separate system from the intake at the Border Patrol facility.

00:21:59.760 Once Border Patrol finds these people and arrests them,

00:22:04.600 which may also involve rescuing them, by the way,

00:22:07.020 because sometimes these illegal aliens are stuffed into the back of a sweltering truck,

00:22:11.500 or they're stuffed into a gangland safe house somewhere,

00:22:15.900 or they're wandering around in the wilderness without water.

00:22:18.160 I mean,

00:22:18.320 all of these kinds of things happen.

00:22:20.420 But anyway,

00:22:20.800 Border Patrol rescues them or arrests them.

00:22:23.140 And takes them to their facilities.

00:22:25.180 And that's where you've seen these chain link fences that the left alleges are cages.

00:22:31.380 And the reality is they have those there to separate men and women,

00:22:35.780 separate children from adults for safety reasons,

00:22:39.020 not for any other reason.

00:22:40.780 You can't have grown men in a common space,

00:22:44.540 for example,

00:22:45.480 with underage girls when they may be sleeping on the floor in an overnight holding cell en route to somewhere else.

00:22:53.140 Those are facilities that are temporary at the Border Patrol.

00:22:56.180 And then when they sort out where everyone's supposed to go,

00:22:59.220 they move them to other places.

00:23:00.220 The children are placed in shelters like the one I visited,

00:23:03.400 which is run by a nonprofit organization.

00:23:06.560 And I have to tell you,

00:23:07.840 it looked very comfortable for the children.

00:23:10.080 They have adequate beds.

00:23:12.420 They have new clothing.

00:23:13.600 They get new toiletries.

00:23:15.360 They receive medical attention,

00:23:17.220 mental health counseling,

00:23:18.420 six hours of education per day,

00:23:20.380 two hours of recreation.

00:23:21.480 They have field trips to zoos.

00:23:23.600 They have an in-house kitchen.

00:23:25.380 They are given meals every day.

00:23:27.680 So it's basically like a dormitory environment that's heavily supervised with medical personnel,

00:23:34.460 mental health personnel,

00:23:35.980 social workers,

00:23:36.740 caseworkers,

00:23:37.400 administrators.

00:23:38.500 It's a full service facility for these children.

00:23:43.100 And it is not cages.

00:23:44.860 The misleading idea that children are being kept in cages was deliberately circulated by critics of the president.

00:23:53.080 It's been perpetuated not just by the left,

00:23:55.380 but by Republican critics of the president.

00:23:57.900 There are Republicans.

00:23:59.540 They're a minority, 1.00

00:24:00.460 but there are Republicans who agree with Democrats on opening the borders wide.

00:24:05.540 They include the Bush family and many of the people around the Bush family who did not enforce our border laws when George W. Bush was president.

00:24:13.620 And today you have his brother,

00:24:15.180 Jeb Bush,

00:24:15.700 complaining about the enforcement of border laws.

00:24:18.100 But the reason that we have this phenomenon of kids getting separated from parents

00:24:22.480 or from the adults they came with is that Trump has decided to incarcerate the adults,

00:24:28.000 to enforce the law,

00:24:29.600 whether charging them with misdemeanors for a first crossing illegally or felonies for a re-entry illegally.

00:24:36.920 Trump is deciding he's going to enforce the law.

00:24:39.480 And according to existing laws,

00:24:41.640 which have been on the books for more than 20 years,

00:24:44.060 you cannot incarcerate the children with the parents for safety reasons.

00:24:48.200 And so when parents are incarcerated,

00:24:50.800 as with most other crimes,

00:24:52.360 the state has to figure out what to do with the children.

00:24:55.220 And so for that reason,

00:24:57.420 the children are placed in alternative care.

00:25:00.420 The families are eventually reunited.

00:25:02.940 They can be reunited either by returning to their countries of origin.

00:25:05.780 So if the parents accept a misdemeanor conviction,

00:25:08.720 they're usually just released right away and they can reunite with their kids then

00:25:11.540 and go back to whichever Central American country or other country they come from.

00:25:15.540 Or if the parents decide to apply for asylum and spend longer in jail or in the country somewhere,

00:25:23.680 then the children may spend longer in the shelter.

00:25:25.940 So that's the way it works.

00:25:28.120 Nobody wants to see the parents separated from their kids,

00:25:30.880 but it is a matter of law that's been on the books for a long time for safety reasons.

00:25:36.460 And of course,

00:25:36.920 if you don't want to be separated from your kids,

00:25:39.560 there's two options.

00:25:40.840 One is you can decide not to immigrate illegally at all.

00:25:45.020 And the other is if you're going to try something like this,

00:25:48.240 try it through a legal port of entry,

00:25:50.060 not just by hopping a fence or crossing a river.

00:25:52.780 Try it through a legal point of entry and make an application for asylum at the border.

00:25:57.520 And then they usually do not separate people unless there's evidence that parents have committed

00:26:01.380 some other kind of crime.

00:26:02.960 So that's the situation.

00:26:05.620 That's where we are.

00:26:06.580 You know,

00:26:07.060 that's very informative.

00:26:08.520 Thank you for that.

00:26:09.260 Joel,

00:26:10.140 yesterday was Father's Day,

00:26:11.480 and I was reflecting on our former colleague,

00:26:14.180 Tommy Robinson,

00:26:15.420 who's in prison in the United Kingdom.

00:26:17.720 And it was the first day he had seen his own kids in nearly a month.

00:26:23.260 And it's just a fact that when someone goes to jail in Canada,

00:26:28.440 the UK,

00:26:29.220 the US,

00:26:30.420 they don't take their kids with them.

00:26:32.100 So this is,

00:26:33.480 you know,

00:26:33.700 it's sad,

00:26:34.440 but it's no more sad than Tommy Robinson,

00:26:36.960 who is in jail.

00:26:38.700 I mean,

00:26:38.920 no one is in,

00:26:39.640 no one has kids in jail with them.

00:26:42.640 And I don't know.

00:26:44.520 I think,

00:26:44.900 I think this is,

00:26:45.860 this is such a hyperbolized situation.

00:26:50.380 Let me show you a tweet.

00:26:52.200 We were talking about tweets.

00:26:53.260 Here's a tweet by a former CIA director,

00:26:55.920 Michael Hayden.

00:26:56.540 I find it amazing that this guy used to be the head of central intelligence for the United States.

00:27:02.280 He's literally comparing,

00:27:04.620 this is what he said,

00:27:05.380 other governments have separated mothers and children.

00:27:08.300 And he shows a picture.

00:27:09.500 I think that's Auschwitz,

00:27:11.280 the most notorious concentration camp and death camp,

00:27:15.520 where Jews,

00:27:16.460 yeah,

00:27:16.700 they were separated and then murdered.

00:27:19.000 How can someone who had such a senior post compare this bipartisan law enforcement

00:27:25.260 to Nazi Germany?

00:27:27.820 And,

00:27:28.020 and he was praised.

00:27:29.720 That tweet was retweeted thousands of times.

00:27:34.780 I,

00:27:35.060 I think they've lost their mind,

00:27:36.820 Joel.

00:27:38.180 Yeah,

00:27:38.840 they have. 0.99

00:27:39.540 They're so deranged that they will even compare Americans to Nazis. 0.89

00:27:44.240 Remember when he's comparing the border enforcement to the Holocaust, 0.93

00:27:48.900 he's implying that the border patrol agents are like SS guards,

00:27:52.400 or that the social workers are like Nazis.

00:27:56.080 That's what they're saying.

00:27:57.100 And this is again,

00:27:57.740 yes,

00:27:58.020 the head of the NSA,

00:27:58.840 the head of the CIA,

00:27:59.720 by the way,

00:28:00.700 the CIA does a lot of shady stuff that is a lot shadier than putting kids in shelters.

00:28:05.960 Yeah.

00:28:06.800 You know,

00:28:07.440 if you want to start making comparisons to totalitarian regimes,

00:28:12.400 it's facile and wrong,

00:28:14.680 but you can do it much more easily with the CIA than you can do it with the border patrol,

00:28:18.260 especially during the period where,

00:28:19.980 where Michael Hayden was involved.

00:28:21.360 I mean,

00:28:21.720 the extraordinary renditions they were doing,

00:28:23.760 the,

00:28:23.960 the black interrogation sites or whatever they called them.

00:28:27.500 I mean,

00:28:28.140 the stuff the CIA was doing was very controversial,

00:28:31.140 waterboarding,

00:28:31.920 whatever it was.

00:28:32.720 So for that guy to compare anything to the Holocaust is really,

00:28:36.180 is really chutzpah to use a nice Jewish word. 0.98

00:28:39.200 But,

00:28:39.960 you know,

00:28:40.240 it's also poisonous because it means you can't solve the problem,

00:28:44.120 right?

00:28:44.340 If your opponents are Nazis,

00:28:46.120 if the people who are enacting policy with whom you disagree are Nazis,

00:28:49.900 then you can't argue with them.

00:28:51.220 There's no point.

00:28:52.180 So we're just going to have to fight each other.

00:28:54.660 And that's what Hayden is prescribing.

00:28:56.980 Yeah.

00:28:57.380 You know,

00:28:57.920 I've seen a lot of statistics and not just from conservative sites,

00:29:02.160 but from progressive sites that say that 40 to 60% of the miners who are trafficked across

00:29:14.160 the border,

00:29:15.420 the women, 0.96

00:29:16.160 40 to 6% of the women and a large percentage of the boys are sexually assaulted.

00:29:21.220 In fact,

00:29:21.800 it's almost like a currency.

00:29:23.900 You'd better pay to get sneaked across the border.

00:29:26.440 If you're male, 1.00

00:29:27.600 maybe you pay in cash or maybe you're raped. 0.98

00:29:29.900 And if you're a girl, 0.98

00:29:30.940 you're probably,

00:29:32.580 I mean,

00:29:32.720 that's what 60% means.

00:29:33.940 That means probably, 1.00

00:29:34.840 you're probably going to be raped by your human trafficking smuggler. 1.00

00:29:39.400 I think that there has to be a signal. 0.99

00:29:44.420 Don't come across illegally that if,

00:29:48.300 unless we enforce things firmly,

00:29:50.100 the traffickers are going to keep coming.

00:29:51.780 Joel,

00:29:51.960 this reminds me of Australia.

00:29:53.980 They had so many ships coming with people because it just paid until they had a new policy.

00:29:59.200 Stop the ships,

00:30:00.280 take it to Christmas Island.

00:30:01.880 There would be a medical care there.

00:30:04.020 Triage.

00:30:04.340 If you're fake, 0.94

00:30:05.280 you're sent back.

00:30:06.100 If you're real,

00:30:07.060 you don't get to go to Australia.

00:30:08.440 They send you to Nauru,

00:30:10.300 a tiny little country that Australia pays,

00:30:12.660 I don't know,

00:30:13.120 50 grand to to take you.

00:30:14.420 So they,

00:30:15.720 within months,

00:30:17.060 it became clear,

00:30:18.120 you're not getting to Australia,

00:30:19.840 no matter what. 0.96

00:30:21.040 If you're fake, 0.84

00:30:22.040 you're being sent right back home.

00:30:23.420 And if you're real,

00:30:24.340 you can go to Nauru.

00:30:25.360 If you're really in danger,

00:30:27.080 that's what stopped it.

00:30:28.200 I think to save these girls from being raped on the way up, 0.96

00:30:31.940 you've got to send a signal. 0.69

00:30:33.460 You will be sent back.

00:30:35.040 A wall sends that signal.

00:30:37.000 I think these,

00:30:37.880 you know,

00:30:38.760 dorms send the signal a bit too.

00:30:42.720 Yeah,

00:30:43.260 the dorms,

00:30:44.200 and it was a thought I had when I was walking around there,

00:30:46.360 that if people saw how comfortable these facilities were,

00:30:49.280 they would have an added incentive to come.

00:30:51.420 Oh,

00:30:51.620 yeah.

00:30:51.760 At the same time,

00:30:52.640 all these Democrats and media types who are falsely claiming that this is the Holocaust,

00:30:58.180 they might be discouraging people from coming.

00:31:00.100 I mean,

00:31:00.260 in a sense,

00:31:00.720 it sort of helps.

00:31:01.480 But ultimately,

00:31:03.280 what you need is much tougher border enforcement because as one border patrol agent said,

00:31:08.620 when you start making exceptions for people,

00:31:10.240 that's when more people start showing up because they believe they can get through.

00:31:13.960 So,

00:31:15.260 it's a huge problem of incentives.

00:31:17.800 When Trump took office,

00:31:18.860 people were scared enough that he was going to be absolutely draconian on the border,

00:31:22.900 that the number of crossings dwindled dramatically.

00:31:25.860 Then when Congress started talking about passing an amnesty bill,

00:31:30.340 then you saw more people coming and more young people taking that very dangerous trip.

00:31:33.720 So,

00:31:34.040 it really does have an effect.

00:31:35.680 Yeah,

00:31:35.900 and of course,

00:31:36.640 we're getting all those self-deportees up here to Canada.

00:31:39.360 Joel,

00:31:39.500 I know you're in a rush,

00:31:40.160 so we'll let you go.

00:31:40.760 Thanks very much for your real shoe leather journalism,

00:31:43.480 the kind of stuff that I wish the mainstream media would do.

00:31:46.300 Congratulations on going in and investigating with your own eyes.

00:31:50.120 Thank you very much.

00:31:51.000 All right,

00:31:51.360 there you have it.

00:31:51.760 Our friend Joel Pollack,

00:31:52.480 senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.

00:31:55.000 Stay with us.

00:31:55.560 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:32:07.560 Hey,

00:32:07.960 welcome back.

00:32:08.480 On my monologue Friday about liberal MPs crying Islamophobia for having to do their jobs,

00:32:12.980 Bruce writes,

00:32:13.560 Thanks for the story about those fake Muslim politicians claiming Eid as their reason to 1.00

00:32:18.340 blame conservatives who wanted to do their jobs as the opposition. 0.98

00:32:21.540 It shows the hypocrisy of the Libranos and their condescending attitude to us voters who

00:32:26.560 pay their salaries. 0.96

00:32:28.640 Yeah,

00:32:28.940 I think so,

00:32:29.760 but I think it's worse than that.

00:32:30.900 I think it reveals,

00:32:32.440 accidentally maybe,

00:32:33.960 that Islamophobia is not real.

00:32:37.360 Like,

00:32:37.560 if they're calling having to vote late at night Islamophobia,

00:32:40.880 then we know that's just their go-to word.

00:32:42.900 It's like calling someone a racist.

00:32:45.460 Yeah,

00:32:45.780 maybe once in a while it's actually accurate,

00:32:48.420 but liberals have sort of invented that word as it means someone I don't like.

00:32:52.520 So we have it from Omar al-Jabra himself that the word Islamophobia just means someone liberals

00:32:57.540 don't like.

00:32:59.240 On my interview with Sue Ann Levy,

00:33:00.620 Paul writes,

00:33:01.680 Sue Ann did a great job during the Ontario election. 0.99

00:33:03.920 I haven't liked John Tory since he lost the provincial election.

00:33:07.120 Sue Ann would make a better mayor for sure. 1.00

00:33:10.100 What I like about Sue Ann is she doesn't take any guff. 0.99

00:33:13.780 And that's one of the things I like the most about Donald Trump and Doug Ford.

00:33:17.060 We sure could use that at Toronto City Hall for that mayor,

00:33:20.000 Calgary City Hall,

00:33:21.240 Edmonton City Hall,

00:33:22.320 Vancouver City Hall,

00:33:23.160 and I'm sure most City Halls.

00:33:26.440 On my interview with John Carpe about Trinity Western University,

00:33:29.240 Jonathan writes,

00:33:30.760 I admit I am a novice,

00:33:31.800 but is there any way to appeal a Supreme Court decision?

00:33:36.200 Well,

00:33:36.580 I'm afraid not.

00:33:37.420 That's why it's the Supreme Court.

00:33:38.960 It's the tippy top.

00:33:40.540 This has gone all the way up from basic courts to the courts of appeal in three different provinces.

00:33:46.600 But there is one solution.

00:33:47.840 I think John alluded to it.

00:33:48.980 And that is now that Doug Ford is the premier of Ontario,

00:33:50.820 he can simply rewrite the Law Societies Act or the Legal Profession Act,

00:33:54.960 whatever it's called,

00:33:55.840 and take away that power that these law societies have in this regard.

00:34:01.540 So the legislature can fix the problem,

00:34:04.740 even if the courts won't.

00:34:06.380 I don't know if Doug Ford would do that.

00:34:09.860 It seems a little obscure,

00:34:11.900 and I don't know if that would be on his priorities list,

00:34:15.960 but that would be a great way to slap back at these law society bigots.

00:34:20.860 Well, that's the show for today.

00:34:22.540 I'm done.

00:34:23.400 I'm going to go Google $7,500 playground kits.

00:34:27.260 What on earth?

00:34:28.820 I think Sheila's right.

00:34:29.760 It was probably just like $1,500 for the playground

00:34:32.180 and $6,000 for a couple of Liberal Party hacks

00:34:35.700 to stand around while it was built.

00:34:37.840 Unbelievable.

00:34:39.040 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:34:41.980 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:44.080 All right.

00:34:44.480 Absolutely.

00:34:54.520 We'll see you then.

00:34:57.480 We'll see you then.

00:34:59.200 Bye.

00:34:59.540 Bye.

00:34:59.860 Bye.

00:35:04.540 Bye.

00:35:05.620 Bye.

00:35:06.620 Bye.

00:35:06.820 Bye.

00:35:07.700 Bye.

00:35:08.660 Bye.

00:35:08.800 Bye.

00:35:09.640 Bye.

00:35:09.980 Bye.

00:35:10.120 Bye.

00:35:10.440 Bye.

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Rebel News Podcast - June 19, 2018

What comes first： Modern planes for Canadian fighter pilots, or Trudeau’s luxury jet？

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