Rebel News Podcast - What does Trudeau's re-election mean for Alberta's oil patch？ (Guest： Robbie Picard)

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00:01:19.880 What does Justin Trudeau's re-election mean for Alberta's oil patch?

00:01:24.020 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:26.900 Justin Trudeau's ever-corrupt Liberals held on to their government,

00:01:48.220 albeit with a minority in the House of Commons in Monday night's general election.

00:01:52.820 Liberals held 157 seats, 20 fewer than they won in the 2015 election.

00:01:59.640 And it was a complete and total wipeout on the prairies for Justin Trudeau's Liberals.

00:02:04.300 In Alberta, 33 of 34 ridings went Conservative Blue,

00:02:07.980 with a much higher vote share than they did in the 2015 election.

00:02:12.400 70% of all votes cast in Alberta went to the Conservatives.

00:02:17.180 And one province to the east, Conservative candidates made a clean sweep of all 14 ridings in Saskatchewan.

00:02:25.120 Much to my delight, the longest-serving Liberal MP, that gun-grabbing farmer-jailer, Ralph Goodale,

00:02:31.700 was sent off into retirement.

00:02:34.580 So what does all of this mean now for Alberta's oil patch?

00:02:37.940 That Canada's anti-oil prime minister has to work with a bunch of anti-oil parties like the Bloc, the Greens, and the NDP

00:02:45.040 to keep the Liberal government from heading into an early election.

00:02:50.880 Joining me tonight on the show in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon,

00:02:56.820 after I rushed home from Conservative HQ in Regina,

00:03:00.540 is Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong.

00:03:07.940 Joining me now from his home in Fort McMurray, Alberta,

00:03:21.540 is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong.

00:03:25.620 Hey Robbie, you were optimistic when I spoke to you before the election.

00:03:31.200 I actually spoke to you when I was inside Conservative Party headquarters HQ.

00:03:35.860 We were talking on the phone, and you were really optimistic.

00:03:38.980 I don't know, maybe it's because you're an optimistic guy.

00:03:42.700 What do you think of the election results?

00:03:45.240 And I guess, moreover to the point, what does this mean for Pipeline?

00:03:50.780 Well, you know, so I guess what I'll say is that I'm not shocked.

00:03:59.460 In fact, I'm not as disappointed.

00:04:02.260 I'm not super thrilled with the results.

00:04:06.280 What does it mean for Pipelines?

00:04:07.920 Well, I think, I don't think you're going to see a coalition right away.

00:04:14.240 I think what you're going to see is you're going to see like a bunch of hot topics get put out.

00:04:18.960 And I think the, I'm hoping you get Trans Mountain built.

00:04:23.880 I'm hoping that they just say, you know what, the Conservatives and the Liberals will get that one thing done in the bag.

00:04:31.360 The future for oil and gas after that is very, very up in the air.

00:04:38.820 People are very terrified.

00:04:40.620 I think you're going to have an election in two years.

00:04:45.240 I think all our political people are far too narcissistic to put their personal views of power aside to just make this work.

00:04:55.020 I would also say that I learned some lessons from this.

00:05:01.860 Lesson number one, Conservatives can't really go after things like blackface to the same extent. 0.90

00:05:09.800 I don't think it's as expected of them.

00:05:12.480 And I think the way the Conservatives, if they want to succeed, they need to reach out to more people outside of their bubble.

00:05:19.400 They need to connect to other Canadians.

00:05:22.220 I think most people are fiscally conservative, but for whatever reason, people are terrified.

00:05:27.300 Justin's wounded, but he's definitely proven that he's not one to be taken lightly or, you know, misunderstood.

00:05:41.460 I think Elizabeth May should resign as the leader of the Green Party because she's had her go and she can never get more than one or two to three seats. 0.99

00:05:48.760 So I think that's time to kind of let someone else in the Green Party have a shot at it for a little bit.

00:05:55.900 And the NDP, I mean, we've been here before, but as a person in Fort McMurray, I mean, people in the town are a lot more glum than I am.

00:06:05.700 I mean, there's a lot of talk of separation.

00:06:08.360 A lot of people are pissed off at Newfoundland right now.

00:06:11.380 A lot of Newfies I know are pissed because I don't know what happens with Alberta. 0.99

00:06:17.960 Alberta is the strangest place because, again, you cannot even count how many Newfies live in Fort McMurray. 1.00

00:06:25.420 There's probably, they argue that they say that Fort McMurray is the second largest city, Newfoundland type city.

00:06:32.920 So a lot of people feel really betrayed.

00:06:35.580 But, you know, this is how it went and you have to be positive.

00:06:39.740 I'm more concerned about this giant movement against fossil fuels, against pipelines that just seems to be getting more and more power.

00:06:50.060 I'm happy now that the election is over.

00:06:51.940 I can speak freely on my page without worrying.

00:06:56.300 I also would question the timing of Greta Thunberg's visit.

00:07:01.160 Very convenient that it was right around election time.

00:07:06.380 But it is what it is.

00:07:09.740 You touched on the Alberta separatist sort of sentiment that's growing and that parade was marching, I think, long before the election and the writing was on the wall.

00:07:20.880 I think it's it's the lack of pipelines and the inability for Albertans to get their resources to oil or their resources to market, coupled with a lot of other, I think, Western cultural issues.

00:07:36.940 And I say Western, not as in Western, the Western world, but I think Western Canada, I would suggest that we have equally as distinct a culture here in the West as they do in Quebec.

00:07:47.680 We're, you know, founded by different sorts of people.

00:07:50.920 We have a different mentality when it comes to our resources, our industry and freedom.

00:07:56.760 We're overwhelmingly voting conservative.

00:08:00.380 Andrew Scheer saw an increase in his vote share.

00:08:05.180 He won the popular vote.

00:08:07.280 But that's not because he was picking up votes in other parts of the country.

00:08:10.920 It's because in places like Lakeland and in places like Fort McMurray, people came out in droves so that, you know, it's anywhere from 70 to 80 percent.

00:08:19.860 Like in my riding, which is largely an urban riding, Garnet Jenis got nearly 80 percent of the vote.

00:08:28.220 People in Alberta are voting to send a message, and they don't think the federal government is listening.

00:08:37.880 And I don't think Jason Kenney can contain what's happening.

00:08:42.260 The parade's already marching.

00:08:44.400 The problem is it's sort of divided and it doesn't have a leader.

00:08:47.980 And if it sort of coalesces around a leader, I think people are going to have a real tough time tutting conservatives and telling them, you know, like, this is just wishful thinking.

00:09:01.160 What do you think?

00:09:03.360 Well, so when it comes to Quebec, I find Alberta separation quite an interesting topic.

00:09:10.780 Because when it comes to Quebec, Quebec was trying to leave because they wanted more, give us more, give us more.

00:09:18.120 And they got more.

00:09:18.960 They got a lot more.

00:09:20.640 Alberta's trying to leave because they're not letting us give more. 1.00

00:09:26.860 It's like they – it's a weird – we're leaving because we – hypothetically, if we were to leave, it would be because they don't allow us to prosper.

00:09:36.540 They're basically – it's the strangest relationship.

00:09:39.440 It actually feels abusive.

00:09:41.580 It feels like you're dating someone who's just really ripping you apart and taking advantage of you.

00:09:45.960 And they don't care what happens to you.

00:09:48.360 As long as they're – you know, if the government's borrowing money and propping up their economy, they have jobs.

00:09:54.460 They don't care what's happening in Alberta.

00:09:55.960 They don't care about people losing their homes.

00:09:58.380 I was watching, like – actually, I'll give Nemchi credit. 1.00

00:10:01.980 Like, the – I don't know the reporter's name, but she was the one that was in that picture with Gerald Butz a little while ago.

00:10:08.280 Oh, Thea Raj.

00:10:10.200 I think it was her.

00:10:11.440 I don't know for sure.

00:10:12.300 But it was on a panel and the same panel.

00:10:14.960 And she's like, well, you know, knocking on doors and people in Alberta don't believe about climate change and blah, blah, blah.

00:10:19.220 And then she's like, whoa, wait a minute here.

00:10:21.900 Like, Albertans care about a lot of things.

00:10:23.520 So, bottom line is, Alberta, I mean, we carry this country even now in our wounded state.

00:10:30.120 We carry the economy in the entire country and the rest of the country.

00:10:32.780 For some reason, they're quite okay with us doing that more ways than one.

00:10:37.780 And they don't want to help us.

00:10:40.460 And it's just the strangest disconnect.

00:10:42.920 And, you know, we are the second largest country in the world, Latin mass-wise, with one of the smallest populations.

00:10:48.780 And I think we're so spread out that, like, I mean, people feel, I mean, I'm trying to be positive.

00:10:56.680 Like, I'm trying to, we'll sound strong, it's doing well, and I've got some plans.

00:11:00.000 But it's hard when you feel such a divide, and they don't quite understand what we're going through.

00:11:09.460 And, frankly, I don't think they care.

00:11:12.180 Yeah, I mean, nothing was more demonstrable of this disconnect than what happened with Husky and then with SNC-Lavalin today.

00:11:23.860 Anyway, Husky laid off a bunch of employees.

00:11:29.320 We're recording this Tuesday afternoon.

00:11:32.280 I have somebody, a close friend who works for Husky, said it could be as many as hundreds.

00:11:39.460 They rented several conference rooms to deal with the amount of employees they were laying off in downtown Calgary.

00:11:47.840 And SNC-Lavalin, their share price went up today.

00:11:51.720 And that really is...

00:11:53.860 Just a perfect encapsulation of what's going on in Canada right now.

00:12:00.480 That this election was so important for Alberta.

00:12:04.480 It meant so much, because there were so many jobs that were just waiting and hanging in the balance,

00:12:10.760 coupled with all the hundreds of thousands of other jobs that were gone.

00:12:14.140 And the corruption is what went out.

00:12:17.620 The corruption increased its share price today.

00:12:20.820 You know, though, what I will say, and it will be a little bit of hope, sometimes these things sort of work out.

00:12:29.020 You know, and I am a little bit hopeful.

00:12:32.940 I think, I mean, I think we'll get Trans Mountain, and I think that'll start happening.

00:12:38.600 I mean, I, you have a chance for, you have a chance for a new election in two years.

00:12:47.820 I don't, I can't see it working perfectly.

00:12:50.680 But I, but I also would say, you know, was Andrew Scheer the right guy?

00:12:57.700 You know, was he a guy that connected to people?

00:13:00.760 Did he have enough experience?

00:13:01.920 I mean, he's only 38 years, he's a year, maybe a year younger than me.

00:13:05.200 Um, I mean, I'll say he's pretty scandal free.

00:13:09.220 I mean, I mean, he has dual citizenship, and he was an aggressive insurance broker.

00:13:15.220 But, um, uh, you know, I mean, was he the right guy?

00:13:19.920 Or, you know what, maybe, like, I mean, how many times do you get a majority?

00:13:24.280 Like, this is very rare.

00:13:25.660 Stephen Harper had two majorities.

00:13:27.860 It's very rare this happens where you unseat an incumbent.

00:13:30.540 So, I mean, I mean, if you look at it from a different lens, I, I think we're super sensitive

00:13:35.140 because the stakes have never been higher.

00:13:37.200 Yeah.

00:13:37.640 Our, Alberta's livelihood has never been, like, a question like this.

00:13:41.600 John Kretcher wasn't trying to ruin Alberta.

00:13:43.920 No.

00:13:44.220 You know?

00:13:44.540 No.

00:13:45.220 You know, so it wasn't like he had all these people around him.

00:13:48.300 John Kretcher was, ah, make it work.

00:13:50.040 Ah, I mean, he might have been doing other, other things.

00:13:53.040 I mean, I, I, I think Albertans, I mean, we're in a, we're in a, it's the strangest climate.

00:13:59.680 Like, here, um, for instance, too, it's like, there's, David, David Jaguar, I think, got the

00:14:08.160 highest vote in the country, you know, and there's still people that, like, that are,

00:14:13.400 I guess, from liberals that just don't, they don't get it, what's happening, why people are

00:14:17.520 upset.

00:14:19.000 Um, Alberta's a bit of a hostage right now, and, um, we have no say. 0.99

00:14:23.900 I mean, it doesn't matter what Alberta does. 1.00

00:14:26.020 We have zero say for our future.

00:14:27.580 Um, and that's, I think that's what hurts people right now.

00:14:32.140 Yeah, and I think, too, if we look at it through the lens of the National Conservative Party,

00:14:37.240 uh, they don't want us to leave either.

00:14:40.000 Um, and I think it's because they will be, if we leave, perpetually damned to be in the

00:14:47.040 opposition, because if Alberta goes, we take with us 34, 33, 34, pretty reliably conservative

00:14:56.140 voting, um, ridings with us.

00:14:59.520 And so that means they will never, ever, ever be able to topple a liberal government.

00:15:04.080 So I think a lot of the, um, criticism of a separatist movement, you're going to see it

00:15:11.440 coming from the official conservative types.

00:15:13.980 Um, now we've done enough lamenting of, uh, the predictable, um, bad news that came this

00:15:20.920 way, uh, this week.

00:15:22.400 I wanted to talk to you about, you touched on it earlier, Greta Thunberg.

00:15:25.700 She, uh, came to Canada.

00:15:27.520 She came to Edmonton.

00:15:29.860 Uh, my friend, Kian Bexty, uh, located her and sort of, uh, killed her with kindness until 0.93

00:15:37.580 he could press her with some tough questions, but I was down there at the climate march.

00:15:44.440 Um, and I saw some crazy things.

00:15:47.020 I was there by myself and I tried to approach it, um, a little bit like wildlife photography.

00:15:51.540 You know, you just wanted to see these creatures in their natural environment.

00:15:55.000 I didn't want to really interact with them because I was by myself and I've, you know,

00:15:58.640 I've had some, um, things go sideways when I've interacted with the far left and the radical

00:16:04.080 left.

00:16:05.140 Um, but what really stuck out for me, and I think stuck out for a lot of our viewers,

00:16:10.600 besides the sheer volume of the crowd that was grossly overestimated by the mainstream

00:16:15.320 media, they first reported 10,000 EPS said 4,000, which is roughly about the March for

00:16:21.220 Life every year.

00:16:22.400 Um, the under-reported March for Life, but it was the use of Aboriginal people and First

00:16:29.040 Nations people and Canada's Indigenous people as props for this march. 0.97

00:16:33.120 And I caught it on camera.

00:16:34.400 I heard it first and it was almost too crazy.

00:16:37.240 Uh, it felt too crazy in my ear to be real.

00:16:40.520 Um, you know, people are out there that think that way and you've seen, I've seen them on

00:16:45.020 the internet say these things, but I've never actually seen it for myself.

00:16:48.080 They were saying, um, Indigenous people to the front, white people to the back of the

00:16:54.020 march.

00:16:54.400 And, uh, and I, it was, I think, 50% racism and 50% we're just going to use Indigenous people

00:17:03.420 as props.

00:17:04.080 So I have never been more conflicted on how I feel about something, not, not necessarily

00:17:16.340 conflicted in the sense that I'm just conflicted with myself.

00:17:21.360 Okay.

00:17:22.560 So, um, we're in a very sad state.

00:17:31.900 It doesn't matter what skin color you have that you need to stand in the back. 1.00

00:17:35.280 And it's sort of like a reverse racism.

00:17:37.200 And it's definitely for political purposes.

00:17:39.260 Cause I promise you the people that they don't care about Indigenous issues, they're just 1.00

00:17:43.020 using them.

00:17:43.720 Um, when Greta came to Fort McMurray, I chose to stand down and this is something that I

00:17:52.720 don't do.

00:17:54.380 And I probably will regret it.

00:17:56.340 Yeah, I will probably regret it.

00:17:58.200 And trust me, my blood was boiling where I was conflicted and I'm, I'm, I'm conflicted

00:18:04.040 for many reasons.

00:18:04.840 I'm conflicted as a Métis guy in town, a business owner, a huge proponent of Fort McMurray

00:18:09.780 businesses, um, and conflicted because when Jane Fonda came to Fort McMurray, it wasn't 0.96

00:18:17.700 fun.

00:18:18.440 Cause she got a little piece of her own medicine in a parking lot on a minus 40 day in February. 0.99

00:18:24.800 And I'm proud of that.

00:18:25.980 I'm proud I got to give it to her.

00:18:27.140 I'm proud I got to stand up to her and that didn't go perfectly.

00:18:32.920 Now, Greta, I will say that, um, you know, it, she got some blowback, but. 0.64

00:18:40.240 Um, and I'm glad there was some, and I don't think the trip was perfect for her.

00:18:45.200 Um, but you're dealing with this strange situation and, and I'm trying to find a way to coin something

00:18:53.000 so I can take it head on.

00:18:54.760 You cannot say, well, she's a 16 year old girl.

00:18:58.180 You can't challenge her or question her, but all of a sudden she's in front of the world

00:19:02.980 speaking at the United Nations.

00:19:04.760 They're literally using her as a human shield. 0.89

00:19:06.980 And because if you try to say something to her, well, she is a 16 year old girl, but

00:19:12.020 yet when she, they're talking about changing the voting age to 16, which is it?

00:19:16.720 Is 16 mean you're an adult and you can take heat or are you a tiny little kid?

00:19:22.080 And they're playing this really well.

00:19:25.700 And that doesn't scare me.

00:19:28.500 I'm not, I'm not in, in, in, in scared to confront her.

00:19:32.140 I, it just, that moment in time when she was here, um, I, I mean, I could have had a lit

00:19:37.580 in many ways.

00:19:38.000 I could have asked to have a coffee with her or, I mean, or whatever, some vegan thing.

00:19:42.100 Um, I could have done a bunch of things, but I just chose to let her be and not tweet about

00:19:49.460 it or confront her.

00:19:50.580 Now, when that BBC documentary comes out, I'll probably regret my decision.

00:19:55.960 Um, but I, I, I'm, she's being toured with a BBC documentary crew and they're coming,

00:20:02.980 they're filming this and they're doing this.

00:20:04.740 And then when she leaves, when she's safely back, wherever she lives, um, you know, they're

00:20:11.000 going to come at us with quite a bit of anger and they're going to be saying, shut the oil

00:20:15.140 sands down again.

00:20:15.840 And we've worked really hard to get past that point.

00:20:18.660 So, um, uh, my, my page, I've been pretty strong with her and my engagement right now,

00:20:26.060 not that I want to brag or anything, but for a while there, I was number one in Canada

00:20:28.860 beating Ontario proud for engagement.

00:20:31.320 Um, not that I want to brag, but I like, I mean, I have nothing else Ontario proud.

00:20:35.300 I'm just being clear.

00:20:36.360 I'm just being a little bit of fun there.

00:20:37.960 Um, and it's a hot topic and, um, people need to provide a voice for this, like using

00:20:43.580 a child as a shield is wrong.

00:20:47.420 And if we don't figure out how our side is going to deal with this, there's going to

00:20:51.680 be other child shields or children use as props and they're going to come and try to

00:20:58.280 shut us down and we're not going to know how to respond to it.

00:21:01.040 We have the stange, the strangest case of Stockholm syndrome.

00:21:04.740 Um, I hope Jason Kenney, our premier has a way to deal with it.

00:21:13.460 You know what I mean?

00:21:15.360 Yeah, I was actually surprised.

00:21:17.100 I thought maybe we would hear more from his, um, war room when she was here, but it seemed

00:21:25.000 as though the war room was radio silent and maybe that was by design.

00:21:28.700 Maybe they just didn't want to be perceived to be fighting with this, uh, way fish, malnourished

00:21:34.500 looking little girl.

00:21:36.240 Um, but you know, when I was in Edmonton, there's, there's a frenzy about, uh, Greta.

00:21:44.540 She's a celebrity and she really is untouchable. 1.00

00:21:48.940 And it's, I mean, that's why they, they chose a child for this is because she is untouchable. 0.62

00:21:55.880 Now, when she went to Fort McMurray, she was there with chief Alan Adam, um, who's tides

00:22:01.840 funded.

00:22:02.200 We know that, um, but the, uh, the Aboriginal businessmen had to put out a statement saying

00:22:08.840 that basically the Aboriginal and Indigenous people they're using as props, including Alan 0.81

00:22:14.640 Adam, don't speak for the Indigenous business owners in Fort McMurray.

00:22:19.240 No, they don't.

00:22:21.580 And I promise you there's going to be a lot of private conversations happening right now

00:22:26.220 because these are the same people that want this pipeline.

00:22:29.000 Alan Adam himself did a big CBC, we want pipelines, we want pipelines.

00:22:33.400 Well, pick a side, just pick a side.

00:22:36.100 If you're against oil, stop producing it.

00:22:38.960 Don't take part of it.

00:22:40.060 Don't, don't be part of Aspen.

00:22:41.700 Just back off or say, you know what, Greta? 1.00

00:22:44.820 Thanks.

00:22:45.720 Thanks for the visit.

00:22:47.440 Here's a little ride in the canoe.

00:22:49.240 But you're a kid and you don't speak on behalf of us or our, I mean, it's really easy for

00:22:56.260 Greta.

00:22:56.560 She's a multi, she's friends with multimillionaires. 1.00

00:22:59.160 She's a kid.

00:23:00.200 She's got tons and tons of money and, and celebrity. 1.00

00:23:03.820 Honor of Schwarzenegger's lent her a Tesla.

00:23:06.220 And, um, it's like, it's not the same for Aboriginal kids, you know, in reserves in Canada because

00:23:14.080 the oil industry is going to be, you know, less because of layoffs.

00:23:17.420 And there's not going to be jobs and opportunities for them.

00:23:20.600 Like, I mean, I, I, I, I, this is an interesting one.

00:23:25.340 This is one where I like, um, I'm not sure, you know, five years from now, if it'll be on

00:23:30.660 my, you know, should I've done something?

00:23:33.020 That's one thing I'm proud to say.

00:23:34.300 Most times in my life where I felt like I should do something I have.

00:23:40.340 So this will be one where I'm not sure.

00:23:43.220 Um, Dean, here's what I think.

00:23:46.960 I think Greta came to Fort McMurray.

00:23:49.060 She will do whatever she's going to do in her little documentary.

00:23:52.660 And then by the time the shine wears off this tiny little bobble of a girl, um, no one's 1.00

00:23:59.400 going to care about her anymore, including all the people who are using her to promote

00:24:03.040 their agenda right now and who are paying her parents to promote their agenda. 0.95

00:24:06.460 Um, I think by the time she's 18, um, she's going to be pretty well washed up in the world

00:24:11.900 of activism, um, because there will be some other cherub faced little girl or little boy

00:24:18.140 coming along.

00:24:19.180 Maybe even there'll be a child of color.

00:24:21.180 So that should check off even more social justice boxes. 0.96

00:24:24.700 And we won't hear much from Greta anymore.

00:24:26.660 So I don't think you should beat yourself up too badly, um, about what you did or didn't

00:24:31.780 do in Fort McMurray.

00:24:32.860 Now, Greta's off to the Vancouver area next, allegedly in the Tesla.

00:24:39.920 She's going to visit Burnaby Mountain.

00:24:41.900 She's going to have a tough time when she's on Burnaby Mountain visiting the tank farm

00:24:46.740 because it is so well hidden, um, in the middle of a residential area.

00:24:51.120 Um, and, and so well cared, well kept and well cared for that she's, um, going to have

00:24:57.280 a hard time finding things to be critical of, but I'm sure the, um, the, uh, perpetual

00:25:03.400 indigenous activists there will come out and, uh, complain like they did when they built 0.94

00:25:08.360 their disgusting little encampment on Camp Cloud.

00:25:10.980 Well, I was just going to say, maybe, uh, that would be a good opportunity for her to,

00:25:14.700 uh, get a place to stay.

00:25:16.200 I wonder how long she would sleep at Camp Cloud.

00:25:18.120 I was at Camp Cloud once.

00:25:19.940 I was too.

00:25:21.080 I was there when they tore it down.

00:25:22.500 Yes, Camp Cloud.

00:25:25.480 That was, uh, I wonder if she'd support them.

00:25:28.140 Speaking of Camp Cloud, uh, I think Kenuous Manuel was in jail for a little bit there.

00:25:33.200 So, uh, they, uh, RCMP arrested her and she broke her wrist apparently.

00:25:37.380 And, um, so I don't know if she's out of jail now on bail or whatever.

00:25:41.140 Or, oh, well.

00:25:43.380 It's just, it's just nice to see the, uh, law enforcement picking up these law-breaking

00:25:49.480 activists.

00:25:50.500 Now, Robbie, I think with the results of the election, we need you and your activism and

00:25:58.000 your, uh, fighting spirit now more than ever.

00:26:02.460 Um, and you don't really have any big backers.

00:26:06.100 You do most of your activism out of pocket.

00:26:08.640 Can you please let people know how they can find all the work you're doing, support you?

00:26:12.980 Yeah, go to allsanastrong.com.

00:26:14.520 Please be patient with me.

00:26:15.840 Um, I have to order more shirts.

00:26:17.480 They're on their way.

00:26:18.360 We're behind our t-shirt orders right now.

00:26:20.440 You will get your shirts.

00:26:21.580 Um, we are revamping our website and, uh, we are going on the road.

00:26:25.940 I plan on spending a lot of time in small town Ontario in the near future where I have

00:26:30.900 a lot of family in Sudbury in a place called Levesque.

00:26:34.040 And I'm going to be doing a new, a show called All Sun Strong Boots on the Ground, where I

00:26:38.920 really want to connect some dots between us here in Alberta and the small towns in, um,

00:26:45.480 Ontario, because we, we have similar stories and, uh, we need to build this nation.

00:26:50.920 We need to try to find it.

00:26:52.560 But, um, my, I mean, at this moment in time, I like, I'm just going to go back.

00:26:56.780 I'm going to regroup.

00:26:58.100 Um, I don't see this as a total defeat, Sheila.

00:27:00.340 I see this as just a postponement of the inevitable, which who knows what's going to

00:27:05.800 happen.

00:27:06.840 Um, we've, uh, but we, as a country, if we don't figure out how we are a country soon,

00:27:17.140 we're not going to be a country for another hundred years.

00:27:21.000 Like it's a, we got to figure this out.

00:27:23.080 We have to, every part of this country needs to be okay.

00:27:26.660 And Alberta has not been okay for about five, six years now.

00:27:31.920 And that's not right.

00:27:33.880 Um, and Albertans did, they say, well, you can vote for change.

00:27:37.820 You can vote people out.

00:27:38.800 Well, Alberta's, they can't, with the exception of Strathcona, Alberta really made a statement.

00:27:44.180 And even Strathcona, you can argue, is a statement.

00:27:47.040 So, I mean, you know, and well, even, even the fact that went NDP federally, I mean, which,

00:27:52.200 you know, I don't, I don't know how that could happen in Alberta, but, um, uh, it's a sign

00:27:57.960 that, you know, Justin Trudeau spent a lot of time in Calgary.

00:28:02.140 I've met him three times in Fort McMurray.

00:28:04.680 He has not connected with people here.

00:28:07.800 Why?

00:28:09.060 And that shouldn't it be his job to, to connect with people, you know, anyway.

00:28:13.820 Well, I think when he goes to places like Quebec, and he campaigns on fighting against

00:28:22.540 those Western premiers, um, it's pretty hard for him to connect with Albertans on the ground

00:28:29.940 when he goes to an entirely other province and then paints us as the enemy.

00:28:34.580 I've never seen a prime minister with this type of division, divisiveness before.

00:28:40.760 I haven't.

00:28:41.420 And I mean, his, you know, as Jean Chrétien had class, I, it remains to be seen if Justin

00:28:50.080 will develop any.

00:28:51.620 Oh, I think we've given him a lot of opportunities to do it.

00:28:55.040 And it just hasn't manifested.

00:28:57.200 Robbie, I want to, I want to thank you for your time.

00:28:59.660 Um, I know that, uh, you, uh, jumped on here with me with some pretty short notice.

00:29:05.380 Um, and I want to thank you for your analysis and we'll check back in very soon.

00:29:09.460 Thank you for having me.

00:29:10.500 Bye-bye.

00:29:11.420 With regard to the rise of Western separatism and the very real desire for Alberta to have

00:29:26.060 more sovereignty, whether that is within Confederation or without, I think we're in

00:29:31.740 for a hell of a ride because the most dangerous time to be in an abusive relationship is when

00:29:37.660 one of the parties is trying to leave it.

00:29:40.280 Well, everybody, thanks so much for tuning into the show tonight.

00:29:43.980 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:29:48.240 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

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Rebel News Podcast - October 24, 2019

What does Trudeau's re-election mean for Alberta's oil patch？ (Guest： Robbie Picard)

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