Rebel News Podcast - Why are journalists so quiet about the Liberal plan to censor the Internet？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I'm going to take you through that Canada 2020 interview. That's a

00:00:20.600 liberal party think tank with Stephen Gilbeau, the censorship minister. He said quite a few

00:00:25.900 interesting things, which makes it even more surprising that the media party just ignored

00:00:30.600 it. I mean, agree or disagree with him, he said some crazy things. Other than Blacklock's reporter,

00:00:37.820 no one reported on. I'm going to show you some video clips of what's coming, of what Stephen

00:00:42.420 Gilbeau intends to make law in this country as soon as next month. Here's a short version. He's

00:00:48.340 coming to censor you. Anyway, that's ahead. Let me invite you to become a member of what we call

00:00:52.640 Rebel News Plus. You get the video version of this podcast. And I think today that's really

00:00:58.880 useful to see Gilbeau say these things. I also have a little video clip of Angela Merkel and some

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00:01:24.980 And I am certain this censorship bill will be used against us almost immediately. All right,

00:01:31.500 here's today's show. Tonight, why are journalists so quiet about the liberal plan to censor the

00:01:37.540 internet? It's April 23rd, and this is The Answer Levant Show.

00:01:41.160 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:46.940 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:51.020 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:02.480 Last night, I showed you a few clips from Stephen Gilbeau, Trudeau's censorship minister.

00:02:08.020 I know his actual title is heritage minister, but he really doesn't care much about our heritage.

00:02:14.200 Like Trudeau, he thinks Canada's heritage is one of racism and sexism and genocide.

00:02:20.460 He's a destroyer, not a builder. He's the only convicted criminal I know of who was appointed to

00:02:27.080 cabinet. Have you ever heard of that before? A lawbreaker becoming a lawmaker. He hates you.

00:02:34.200 He hates anyone who disagrees with his worldview. Imagine appointing a convicted criminal in cabinet.

00:02:39.880 I bet you think I'm saying that as some sort of insult or epithet. No, he is a convicted criminal.

00:02:44.320 He managed to escape jail time. But here's how the Globe reported on his conviction and sentencing.

00:02:51.380 Mr. Gilbeau was placed on one year's probation in order to perform 100 hours of community service in

00:02:56.380 Montreal, where he works for Greenpeace, and pay $1,000 of the $3,000 restitution.

00:03:01.680 I wonder if the judge would have been so gentle had he seen what a liar Gilbeau is. Let me read from

00:03:08.400 the Globe. Although a prosecutor told an Ontario court judge the two men were remorseful, both expressed

00:03:16.040 jubilation outside court about having drawn public attention to global climate change and the need

00:03:21.400 to cut greenhouse gas emissions. Got it. So he's a criminal and he lied to the judge to get a light

00:03:27.020 sentence. Fits right in with Trudeau. I mean, that's sort of how Catherine McKenna operates too, 0.99

00:03:32.700 right? You can get away with anything. You can lie if you just say it loud enough and long enough.

00:03:38.740 You know, I actually gave him some real advice. I said that if you actually say it louder,

00:03:43.480 we've learned in the House of Commons, if you repeat it, if you say it louder, if that is your

00:03:47.060 talking point, people will totally believe it. So just go.

00:03:50.240 Okay. So what's this convicted criminal, Stephen Gilbeau, up to now? As I showed you last night,

00:03:56.260 he plans to introduce legislation as soon as next week to censor the internet. Seriously,

00:04:01.500 that's the second item on Trudeau's mandate letter for him, not to build anything, but to destroy.

00:04:06.880 It really is Orwellian that the highest priority is for him to be the minister of censorship,

00:04:12.640 controlling the media, either by paying the media off, which is how 99% of the media chooses to go

00:04:20.320 with the bailouts, or the few who don't take the bailouts, the payoffs, to censor them. As that

00:04:28.260 story of his criminal trial approves, he'll lie when he has to, but I think he was telling the truth

00:04:34.020 here. What bugs him the most about the internet is not child pornography, or terrorism, or obscenity.

00:04:44.980 The thing that bugs him the most is people who taunt politicians like him.

00:04:49.240 We've seen too many examples of public officials retreating from public service due to the hateful

00:04:55.320 online content targeted towards themselves or even their families.

00:04:59.780 So you can't taunt him, but he can taunt you on the internet. He can mock you and your job like this

00:05:07.240 picture he posted. He can pass laws and regulations and taxes to destroy your job while taunting you.

00:05:14.460 You just can't taunt back. Got it? Those are the rules. Of course, taunting someone or insulting

00:05:20.340 someone or criticizing someone, especially a politician, isn't against the law. In fact,

00:05:24.660 it's protected by law, the highest protection in our fundamental freedoms. There is no speech that

00:05:30.100 is more protected in our laws than political speech criticizing the government. But try telling

00:05:35.700 that to a convicted criminal like Gilboa, I know. So because no court will abide him,

00:05:42.660 he will create a new court, a new ministry of censorship, a new censorship court. I showed you this

00:05:48.660 part yesterday. I think we need a new regulator. I think this regulator needs to be able to

00:05:57.940 to have audit powers over what platforms are doing in terms of content moderation.

00:06:03.220 And this new censorship court will have tremendous power, including the power to overrule

00:06:08.260 the content moderators at Facebook or Twitter or YouTube who the government thinks aren't censoring

00:06:14.180 hard enough. Really? Who on earth, other than governments in China and Iran and North Korea,

00:06:18.420 think YouTube and Twitter and Facebook aren't censoring hard enough?

00:06:22.500 Could we envision having blocking orders? I mean, that's...

00:06:28.660 Maybe. It's not, you know, it would be...

00:06:33.700 It would likely be a last result nuclear bomb in a toolbox of mechanism for a regulator. 0.61

00:06:46.100 Theoretically, it is a tool that is out there and that could potentially be used. But really,

00:06:52.180 no decisions have been made on that. And I would imagine, you know, this is something you would see

00:06:58.820 as part of the regulation, most likely. So I showed you those clips yesterday. I want to show you a few

00:07:04.980 more today. And it's interesting to me that these comments, which are so shocking by Gilbo, were only

00:07:10.820 reported on by blacklocks.ca, the independent Ottawa-based news website. Even the interviewer

00:07:17.300 with Gilbo here, that's a National Post reporter named Anya Caradelia. She asked substantive questions.

00:07:24.020 She actually asked good questions. She got shocking answers, as I'm showing you, but

00:07:30.820 she didn't write a story about it. She was willing to participate in a Canada 2020 conference with

00:07:36.580 Gilbo. That's a Liberal Party conference. Her questions were fair. They weren't aggressive,

00:07:42.020 but they were substantive and fair. The answers to her questions were outrageous. And she didn't write

00:07:48.580 up the story. I actually asked her why. And she wrote back to me and said she had written a story

00:07:55.700 that covered the same ground a few weeks earlier, this story here. And it's true. And it's a fair

00:08:01.140 story, actually. But surely the minister of censorship talking about banning things from even being uploaded

00:08:06.900 to the internet, about banning foreign service and a nuclear option. Surely that's worth a little news 0.95

00:08:12.420 story. No? Anybody? Nobody? Nobody? If a Stephen Harper cabinet minister had talked about using the

00:08:19.620 nuclear option to censor political critics who taunt him, surely that would have been a little

00:08:23.540 bit of newsy, even a tiny little story. Especially if it were said directly to a journalist. Anybody?

00:08:27.940 Hello? Anybody home? I want you to listen to this next line. It's the censorship minister explaining

00:08:34.420 that we need censorship in order to be free. As in, if we don't censor you, other people can't talk.

00:08:42.660 I'm serious. There's no other interpretation to what he's saying here. By not acting, we are in fact

00:08:50.980 not ensuring a great number of Canadians freedom of expression and freedom of speech. Because they can't

00:08:57.140 express themselves on these platforms in a safe manner and the way they have a right to.

00:09:08.020 Got it. It's like that bizarre speech by Angela Merkel. To save your freedom of speech,

00:09:13.140 we have to destroy your freedom of speech. Remember this clip?

00:09:15.700 Exacter.

00:09:17.940 Jeanne van der

00:09:19.280 Fantastic name of speech.

00:09:20.220 Jeanne van der

00:09:41.200 All right. I want to show you three more clips from Stephen Gilbo. Here's a crazy one.

00:10:04.760 Gilbo says that there are certain bad words, very offensive words, racist words even,

00:10:11.200 that should be allowed, certain swear words or taunts, as he calls them, but it all depends on

00:10:18.380 who says them. If you're the right race, you can say, he gives an example. He talks about black

00:10:23.460 people. They should be able to use the N-word, but not white people. I wonder how anyone knows 0.99

00:10:31.940 what your race is on the internet. It's actually wonderfully meritocratic. No one knows who you

00:10:38.400 are on the internet. They judge you by the content of your character, not the color of your skin.

00:10:41.580 I wonder what would happen, even if they could find out what your race is. I wonder what happens

00:10:46.680 to someone who's mixed race, someone who's half black and half white or something like that,

00:10:50.840 like, I don't know, Barack Obama. What rule would apply to him? Here's Gilbo.

00:10:56.460 Because these algorithms are trained to recognize keywords and not so much the context in which

00:11:02.880 these words are being used. A lot of the content that is being taken down right now is content that

00:11:09.660 is being posted by equity-seeking groups and racialized people. Why? Because they will use 0.96

00:11:17.120 certain keywords that are recognized by the algorithms as being problematic, not realizing,

00:11:23.740 I mean, the algorithms can't tell the difference between two black people talking about their daily 1.00

00:11:29.140 reality and using certain words that they would use in an everyday conversation, not in a harmful

00:11:34.140 way, and a white supremacist using the same words in a very violent way against a person or a community.

00:11:42.320 So we're looking at the idea of putting in place an appeal mechanism when people feel that their

00:11:48.500 content is unfairly being taken down by platforms. And right now, you have really no recourse to deal with

00:11:57.260 this. I mean, that's an interesting idea. I mean, Gilbo and the liberals call their opponents Nazis.

00:12:03.760 They've even called me a Jew, a Nazi. I find that an outrageous offensive taunt. But is that okay for

00:12:10.460 them to do because they're liberal and not officially Nazis or something? And I'm a conservator? What are

00:12:18.000 the rules here? Who gets to say what? Because that's what he was talking about, right? Does he get to call

00:12:22.880 a Jew a Nazi? Or can I call him a Nazi because I'm Jewish? What are the rules? Who are the lucky people

00:12:27.840 who get free speech to be offensive? And who are the unlucky people who are censored? And can I

00:12:33.300 self-identify as whatever group I need to to have free speech? Is he really going to make these

00:12:38.280 decisions based on race? Look, Stephen Gilbo is a thug, literally. I mean, he's a convicted criminal who

00:12:44.200 laughed at the judge who let him off easy. He's not particularly smart. Watching the interview with

00:12:49.480 him was pretty painful. I mean, remember this idiocy a few months back? What does this even mean?

00:12:55.560 So how will this work? How are you going to regulate websites? How are you going to register

00:13:00.160 all that? Do you buy these recommendations?

00:13:04.800 Well, I mean, one of the recommendations, so you're talking about a couple of different things

00:13:09.840 here, but as far as the licensing is concerned, is if you're a distributor of content in Canada,

00:13:15.380 and obviously, you know, if you're a very small media organization, the requirement probably

00:13:22.160 wouldn't be the same as if you're Facebook or Google. So there would have to be some proportionality

00:13:30.120 embedded into this. But we would ask that they have a license. Yes.

00:13:35.840 Yeah, good times. Well, the good news is Gilbo himself will tell Facebook, Twitter, YouTube,

00:13:41.120 etc. He will tell them what the rules are. If the rules make no sense, if they're arbitrary,

00:13:46.540 if they're biased in his favor, he's just going to do it. He's nice that way. He's going to tell

00:13:50.700 the social media companies exactly what they have to do. And if they do exactly what he says,

00:13:56.240 there's no fine, no censorship. He's going to tell them what to do. Take a listen.

00:14:00.240 First thing that should be done is that these things should be flagged to the platforms. They have a

00:14:04.600 lot of resources to deal with this, much more than even a Canadian regulator would have. So the first

00:14:09.580 thing that someone or an organization should do is most likely would be to flag it to the platform.

00:14:15.280 And once it is flagged, then the 24-hour takedown would start if a platform decides not to take

00:14:24.500 a publication down. I imagine that one of the possible scenarios would be that then a person or

00:14:31.760 group can turn to the Canadian regulator and then the regulator kicks in. But obviously, as you mentioned,

00:14:38.800 as you rightly pointed out, firstly, you know, the regulator would put in place a series of

00:14:44.700 guidelines so that the platforms are the first line of attack on that. And they know exactly what

00:14:51.900 we're expecting from them. It would be unfair to ask them to do something if it's not,

00:14:56.920 if we're not clear in terms of what we're asking from them.

00:15:01.100 Okay. But if those companies, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, etc., don't do exactly what he says,

00:15:08.460 get ready for a massive fine.

00:15:11.220 Another thing we're looking at, obviously, the regulator would be able to impose hefty monetary

00:15:19.620 penalties in case of noncompliance. Certainly been looking at what other countries are doing on that

00:15:26.980 front. Europe certainly being one of them. So, yeah, I think that's, in a nutshell, that's what

00:15:37.460 we're, that's what we have in mind in developing this legislation.

00:15:43.460 That's what I'm worried about. If you were YouTube, and there was a Rebel News video

00:15:48.020 criticizing Stephen Gilboa, calling him a censorship minister, taunting him about the fact that he's a 0.80

00:15:53.900 convicted criminal and not particularly bright, I don't know, say this video, and Gilboa made a

00:16:00.060 complaint, would you stand up for freedom of speech for me, for Rebel News? Would you, if necessary,

00:16:07.120 hire lawyers to fight against Gilboa's censorship order? If you were YouTube, I mean, why would you do

00:16:13.380 that? Why would you incur financial costs, legal costs, political costs? Why would you get offside

00:16:19.660 with this criminal Stephen Gilboa and Justin Trudeau? Why would you put yourself offside with the

00:16:24.820 government? Why wouldn't you just say, all right, delete it? Nuclear option, delete Rebel News, that

00:16:30.860 video, delete them all together. Just get rid of the problem. So there's no fine, no legal bills,

00:16:35.920 no nasty emails from Gilboa, no extra taxes from the liberals. It's a safer option. It's the easier

00:16:41.400 option. Just do what Gilboa says, silence his enemies, and you'll be fine. Facebook, YouTube,

00:16:47.900 Google, Netflix, Twitter, whatever. This law is coming. Gilboa says so. We're going to fight it.

00:16:58.340 And you bet I'll keep you posted. Stay with us for more on this with Spencer Fernando.

00:17:03.120 Well, one of the things that surprises me, well, I can't say it surprises me, it disappoints me

00:17:20.560 the most about Stephen Gilboa's planned attack on internet freedom is the silence of the lambs. I am

00:17:27.240 quite certain that had it been Stephen Harper proposing a total regulation of the internet,

00:17:33.500 a new regulator who would have the power to, quote, use a nuclear option to block things from being

00:17:39.320 uploaded, to block servers from other countries. I'm positive that we might have heard a peep about it

00:17:45.020 in the mainstream media and the various groups that claim to be for free speech and civil liberties in

00:17:49.860 this country. I've heard very little aside from the Black Locks Reporter, which is a small independent

00:17:55.940 research news outlet in Ottawa. They've really been at the forefront of this. And that's, you know,

00:18:02.740 almost it. I've seen some op-eds on the subject by our friends at the Post Millennial and True North.

00:18:08.980 And by our next guest, Spencer Fernando, who joins us now via Skype from Winnipeg. Spencer,

00:18:14.380 great to see you. I think that if this had been in an earlier era, censoring the entire internet,

00:18:23.360 censoring journalists, censoring hurt feelings or social harms or other completely subjective things,

00:18:30.760 I just know we would have had a five alarm fire from the fancy people. Not only is there very little

00:18:36.740 criticism, there's very little coverage at all, like even just straight reporting on this. Why do you

00:18:43.080 think that is? You know, I think it's really the culmination of a long-term trend in many ways in

00:18:49.440 many universities in the country and the entire Western world, where really the kind of idea of

00:18:54.560 freedom of speech has been replaced with this concept of, oh, you know, we're going to stop hate,

00:18:59.720 we're going to stop racism, which of course sounds nice, but it all becomes about, you know, how people

00:19:04.460 feel about something, right? Subjective feelings. And the issue with that is it's not really a legal

00:19:09.600 framework. It's not protecting people's rights to speak their mind. It's saying, look, if someone's

00:19:13.740 upset by something, then, you know, if you said it, then you're in trouble. Or if you wrote it,

00:19:17.680 you're in trouble. It doesn't matter whether what you wrote is legal or not. It's saying you're going

00:19:21.880 to get in trouble because someone was hurt by it. And of course, the problem is anyone can be hurt

00:19:26.040 by anything. So it really gives the government a blank check to ban and control whatever they want.

00:19:30.960 And you're seeing them say things like, there's people, you know, politicians, they're getting

00:19:35.400 criticized too much. And some people are choosing not to go into public office. Well, you know,

00:19:40.440 you live in a free country or supposedly free country where people are supposed to be allowed

00:19:44.560 to speak their minds. You run for office, you gain power over a government and power over people's

00:19:49.740 lives. And while you're criticized too much or people are a little too harsh to you online, so you

00:19:53.920 quit. I mean, the solution to that is people need to toughen up, not trying to censor the entire

00:19:58.360 internet. Yeah. And these are cry bullies. I mean, these are the people, I mean, I know there's a few

00:20:03.340 liberal politicians to constantly complain about this. Catherine McKenna, I think is the worst. 0.62

00:20:08.620 I mean, the nickname that our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed gave her, Climate Barbie, if that is the worst

00:20:14.820 thing said about you, you're doing pretty well in the age of social media. But I remember a few years

00:20:20.540 ago, Harper, you know, F-U-C-K Harper bumper stickers, lawn signs, the CBC was championing a guy who

00:20:31.460 would drive around with that. I mean, you had comparisons of him to Hitler. The CBC's Mary

00:20:39.200 Walsh called him Stassi Steve and Hare Harper, you know, calling him a Nazi.

00:20:46.740 Help save poor Stassi Steve this season. God knows Hare Harper doesn't have enough sense to save him. 0.98

00:20:54.340 So that's okay because he was evil, so he deserved it. But you call Catherine McKenna Climate Barbie

00:21:00.860 because she hires a fashion photographer in Paris for $6,000 to take a few snapshots of her. And then 0.94

00:21:09.020 we have to censor the whole internet. It's quite incredible. But, you know, I think you're right

00:21:14.440 when you say goes to the universities. I mean, it was only a generation or two ago where when the Nazis 0.54

00:21:21.160 marched through a Jewish neighborhood in Skokie, Illinois, where there were Holocaust survivors,

00:21:28.480 the ACLU went to defend the Nazis' right to demonstrate, and they sent Jewish lawyers and

00:21:37.140 black lawyers. And they did that on purpose to make the point that obviously the ACLU didn't support

00:21:42.780 Nazis. They were sending, I mean, the ACLU used to send black lawyers to defend Klansmen to make the

00:21:49.600 point that we don't like these guys, duh. But if we don't fight for their freedom, ours is next.

00:21:55.880 That kind of civil liberties activism is completely gone from the left, isn't it?

00:22:00.900 Yeah. You know, when I worked at some student newspapers, I could already kind of see the trend

00:22:05.220 emerging. And looking back, it becomes more obvious. Well, there was kind of two types of

00:22:09.460 people. You know, there weren't too many super conservative journalists. But there was the ones who

00:22:13.760 were, I guess you could say, kind of the old school civil libertarians, right? Hold the government

00:22:19.060 accountable, you know, stand up for free speech. You know, we should be a platform for people to

00:22:23.580 share whatever opinions they have, whether we agree or not, right? It's trying to be a somewhat

00:22:27.100 neutral platform for free speech. And then the others who were clearly activists, right? They were

00:22:31.420 in journalism to enforce their worldview on other people. And that was totally about, look, we don't like

00:22:37.520 this opinion. We're going to shut you down. We're going to ban you. So there's a lot of tension

00:22:40.740 internally. And, you know, those people, you know, those two groups are really, they've grown up.

00:22:46.080 And now they're running a lot of these newspapers and websites and media companies. And the split

00:22:51.660 is still evident. But the split, unfortunately, has come down more on the side of those who are

00:22:55.320 activists, not really journalists. So I think that's what we're seeing now is people who, the idea

00:23:00.280 of, you know, why should I defend someone I disagree with? I'll just use the power of the government

00:23:03.840 to shut them down, which, of course, is very authoritarian and very much against the values we're supposed

00:23:08.780 to have in this country. Yeah, you know, I was thinking back to when I published the Danish

00:23:12.920 cartoons of Mohammed in February 2006. So that's almost exactly 15 years ago. The reaction from

00:23:23.320 the working journalists, even at the CBC, even at the Toronto Star, was 99% supportive of my right to

00:23:30.140 do so. Like even, even liberals said, of course, you should have that right. That was only 15 years

00:23:39.260 ago. Now that would be unthinkable. And now I think of how the National Post, allegedly a conservative

00:23:46.780 newspaper, they actually had this whole struggle session, where all their staff got together to

00:23:51.960 complain about Rex Murphy. What did he do? Did he call someone a bad name? No, he had the temerity to

00:23:57.000 say that Canada is not systemically racist. Yeah, we've got problems, but we are not rotten in our

00:24:03.780 bones. That was such a freak out that a majority of staff signed a letter condemning him. So 15 years

00:24:12.100 from the CBC saying, yeah, you go, girl, when I publish those Danish cartoons, to the conservative

00:24:18.720 newspaper having a vote of its reporters to condemn Rex Murphy. 15 years is all it took. That's shocking.

00:24:27.000 Yeah, and I think what we're figuring out is the left is very good at getting into institutions that

00:24:31.840 have a lot of cultural influence. And even they then kind of make things, what's the best way to say

00:24:38.480 it? Things that almost nobody agrees with somehow become the norm, right? And I'll give an example.

00:24:43.280 I saw a Twitter trend yesterday. And I think it was referring to people who experience menstruation,

00:24:48.860 and they're related to COVID-19. Obviously, they mean wimp, right? And so you'd almost find,

00:24:54.180 you go to the street and talk to 100 people, and you'd maybe find one or two who would ever refer

00:24:59.080 to women as people who experience menstruation. But yeah, this is Twitter, you know, one of the

00:25:03.320 biggest social networks in the world. And that's just the accepted, you know, lingo for them now.

00:25:08.340 So the left has been very good. You see it in schools and universities. And, you know, they're trying

00:25:14.020 to, in many ways, I think, undermine the foundation of the Western world. A big part of that is individual

00:25:19.240 freedom and freedom of conscience and freedom of thought. So if you undermine those concepts,

00:25:23.600 you really don't have much freedom left after all. And then who's there to defend it, right?

00:25:28.260 We've been, young people are told, oh, the West is just colonialism and oppression and evil,

00:25:33.100 and you shouldn't feel any pride in the Western world. You should feel just guilt and feel other

00:25:37.600 cultures are so much better. The West is terrible. And so who's going to defend these concepts if

00:25:43.140 everyone's being demoralized? What worries me is that I think most, you mentioned if you go on the

00:25:50.620 street, most people wouldn't be part of this whole woke thing. It's a very luxurious, you know,

00:25:58.680 it's a rich person's problem to toy around with names like, you know, is it a woman or a person who

00:26:04.800 menstruates? Because if you're a working class person, you're busy earning a living for your family. 0.99

00:26:09.220 You're not splitting hairs about just the most exquisite phraseology. I think most of cancel

00:26:14.940 culture is alien to how real people live. I think real people say rough things. Sometimes they joke

00:26:21.900 around, they make politically incorrect jokes. And even teasing, even quote, mean nicknames can be a way

00:26:30.880 of socially clicking together. I mean, you know, this pretend way of living that's so exquisitely

00:26:39.400 perfect. None of these purveyors of it live that way themselves. No one is ruder than the journalistic

00:26:47.320 political class. No one swears more than journalists and politicians. No one drinks more. No one's more

00:26:53.220 sexist. We're learning just how gropey Trudeau's male feminists are. So they're holding up this

00:27:00.540 artificial standard of perfection that they themselves, that no one could live up to. Here's

00:27:05.780 my point. Spencer, I think that any political leader who said, look, let's be polite to each

00:27:11.240 other. Let's be nice to each other. But we got to get out of this crazy wokeness, this cancel culture, 0.99

00:27:17.000 this language policing. I think any such person would immediately have a majority of support from

00:27:23.640 every party voter base. So why don't we see that? Like Aaron O'Toole, I've got a lot of beefs with him,

00:27:31.440 and I know you do too. But how easy would it be for him to pick up the mantle of guys, political

00:27:37.540 correctness gone too far. All of a sudden, real conservatives would feel some enthusiasm again.

00:27:42.500 If he drew any criticism or controversy, it would be good for him. The Toronto Star's mad at me. Oh,

00:27:50.060 please don't throw me in the briar patch, you know? So why don't we see opportunistic politicians,

00:27:55.580 which is all of them? Why don't we see politicians who care about votes, which is all of them,

00:28:00.120 go for this issue of political correctness, wokeness, and fight against censorship? Because I think

00:28:05.500 you could probably muster public opinion against Stephen Gilboa's censorship plans,

00:28:12.500 but I don't think you're going to if you don't have a political champion on the other side.

00:28:17.960 Yeah, well, I think O'Toole, I mean, he was doing a bit of that during the leadership race,

00:28:21.900 right? When he was presenting himself as True Blue, standing up for Canada's culture and history,

00:28:26.620 and he's just stopped talking about that for the most part now, like he did with most things he

00:28:30.320 promised at the time. But I think a lot of them are afraid, right? They don't want a negative media

00:28:35.300 cycle. They don't want to get tagged as, you know, of course, you know what they'd say. It's

00:28:38.460 racist or bigoted. That's the attack that always happens. So I think a lot of it is just cowardice,

00:28:44.680 right? People not willing to push back and stand up, and they're just going to take the easy way.

00:28:48.540 The problem with that for conservatives is then the idea is, what are you actually ever conserving,

00:28:52.740 right? I mean, if you're just surrendering to the liberals on every issue, kind of going with the

00:28:57.040 flow with the media, you're just, you know, I mean, society just keeps moving in a way the liberals

00:29:01.680 would like and not a way that, you know, many conservatives would like. So you're not really conserving

00:29:05.920 anything, and you're not really getting anything done. You're just trying to manage the liberal

00:29:10.560 system with a conservative name on it, right? So I think a lot of it is cowardice, and it's fear,

00:29:17.520 right? You know, people, they don't feel they have enough strength in themselves to push back against

00:29:21.680 the media or stand up for what they believe. So they just take the path of least resistance. And of

00:29:26.300 course, that normally doesn't work out for the party anyway. Yeah. I'm worried, though, because even if

00:29:31.240 O'Toole were to suddenly find courage and oppose this, I think the other parties in parliament

00:29:35.900 would join with Trudeau and Gilboa in ramming this through. I think the NDP probably wants it to go

00:29:40.820 farther. I think the Bloc Hippicois, I don't know, but I think they would want it to go farther. 0.96

00:29:45.720 I think all the parties of the left love censorship. And I really fear this thing's going to become law.

00:29:51.800 I fear it's going to come law before the next election. And I think that's the timing here,

00:29:56.460 is to get those last squeaky wheels shut up before Trudeau goes to the polls again. And I just

00:30:03.480 really feel this is imminent now that Bill has not been introduced in parliament yet.

00:30:07.640 But they say it's coming imminently. I don't know, I just have this dread in me that things are about

00:30:12.740 to get really get rough. What do you think? Yeah, well, I've seen some conservative MPs tweeting

00:30:17.960 about it and expressing concern, but not O'Toole himself, unless I miss something, which is possible.

00:30:23.260 I don't think I've seen him do it. So we'll see. I mean, you had all the conservative MPs saying how

00:30:27.700 much they hated carbon taxes and O'Toole promising no carbon tax. And then he said, actually, we are

00:30:31.980 bringing in a carbon tax. And MPs stopped talking about the carbon tax, right? They just kind of

00:30:36.260 pretended, oh, none of that happened. So, and he doesn't seem to be consulting with them. So it

00:30:40.880 wouldn't be a surprise to me to see them. Yeah, you've got some MPs criticizing it. Then O'Toole goes and

00:30:46.020 says, hey, guys, we're actually supporting this. So I hope not. I hope you'll actually show a little bit

00:30:49.880 of courage. But, you know, past experience would leave some doubt about that. Yeah. Well, I know

00:30:56.180 you'll keep fighting for free speech. You're one of the good guys. Spencer, great to see you again.

00:30:59.500 Thanks for taking the time. No problem. All right. There you have it. Spencer Fernando of the website,

00:31:05.420 spencerfernando.com. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:31:19.880 Hey, welcome back. Your viewer feedback. Miles says,

00:31:24.620 conservatives are crazies and conspiracy kooks blathering about unfair censorship practices.

00:31:31.080 Yeah, it would be crazy if it weren't happening, but it's happening. It's not a conspiracy theory.

00:31:37.500 It's a conspiracy fact. We know that because they tell us they're censoring us. And you can tell for

00:31:43.480 yourself because we weren't allowed to put up videos for a week. Another comment on YouTube

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Rebel News Podcast - April 24, 2021

Why are journalists so quiet about the Liberal plan to censor the Internet？

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