Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 20, 2025


Ep 1256 | 'No Kings' Protests, Nigerian Persecution & Trump’s IVF Plan


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

162.65144

Word Count

10,485

Sentence Count

791

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

We see some disturbing protesters from the No King's Day protests this weekend, we also see persecution happening in Nigeria, how we should pray, and why it matters. We will also be closing the episode analyzing Trump's latest moves when it comes to IVF. How should we be thinking about that as pro-life Christians?


Transcript

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00:00:31.280 Objective evil exists. Today's stories prove that to be true.
00:00:35.440 We see some disturbing protesters from the No Kings demonstrations this weekend.
00:00:41.120 We will also be looking at the persecution happening in Nigeria, how we should pray, why it matters, as well as this very contentious race in Virginia.
00:00:51.180 We will also be closing the episode analyzing Trump's latest moves when it comes to IVF.
00:00:57.080 How should we be thinking about that as pro-life Christians?
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00:01:07.140 Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday.
00:01:19.520 Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend and that you are having a great start to your week.
00:01:24.760 Remember, God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch.
00:01:29.020 He is not surprised. He is not taken aback. He is not thrown off by anything.
00:01:33.100 He is never looking down and wondering what is going on.
00:01:35.700 He is sovereign over all of it.
00:01:37.740 And one day he is coming back and he will make every wrong right and he will do away with all injustice and oppression and evildoers.
00:01:45.880 And when it seems like evil is winning, we can always go back to Psalm 37 that tells us not to fret over the evildoer,
00:01:52.820 even when it seems like he's prospering and succeeding, that Jesus is coming back, that Jesus wins, that Jesus is king.
00:02:00.060 And so that is our hope. And we walk forward in that hope, in that joy, knowing that we are completely immortal until God calls us home.
00:02:07.940 And we serve a God who is surprised by nothing.
00:02:10.300 You are placed on this tiny speck of the universe, on this small spot of eternity, by a God who does nothing by accident.
00:02:17.120 Your existence, your children's, and your children's children's existence, the time and the place in which they are put in history,
00:02:26.040 all of that is done by a God who does everything with purpose and intention and cares very much.
00:02:32.160 So as we talk about some of the things that we're going to get into today, some of them sad and troubling and disturbing,
00:02:38.740 we have to remember that this is our Father's world and that he's not doing nothing about evil.
00:02:44.840 His wrath is kindling, and one day he will do away with all of it.
00:02:49.460 So if today you feel any kind of prompting, like, wow, who is this God? What is Christianity?
00:02:55.160 What is this faith that she is talking about? Don't ignore it. Don't push that feeling down.
00:02:59.960 I have lots of resources that I've talked about on this show and on my Instagram about how you can start reading the Bible
00:03:05.640 and how to find a biblical church. That is your next step.
00:03:10.840 All right, let's talk about some of these disturbing things that happened over the weekend,
00:03:15.400 and that would be the No King's Day demonstrations.
00:03:19.600 Now, you might have heard about No King's Day because they just had a whole day of demonstrations just a couple months ago in July,
00:03:26.800 but they're already back. They're already having new demonstrations.
00:03:30.340 I guess the demand for No King's Day was just so high that they felt, okay, we need more nationwide protests.
00:03:37.660 And if you're wondering, No King's Day is orchestrated by a bunch of far-left activist groups
00:03:45.480 that say that they are protesting against Donald Trump's tyranny, against his dictatorship.
00:03:52.480 Now, what exactly is he doing that is not in line with liberty, that is not in line with democratic ideals?
00:04:01.360 It's unsure. It's yet to be seen.
00:04:04.880 It seems that a big issue that they all have is that Donald Trump has the audacity to believe in borders
00:04:12.520 and believe that America should just be for American citizens,
00:04:16.520 that we should put the interest and the well-being and the safety of America
00:04:20.300 before the interest and well-being and safety of other countries.
00:04:24.440 The belief that literally everyone has had for all of time in every country,
00:04:31.500 that is now seen as dictatorial in some way.
00:04:35.600 So this happened on Saturday.
00:04:38.800 First one was, I think I said July, it was actually on June 14th.
00:04:42.520 Um, according to the website, over 2,700 No King's Day protests took place,
00:04:48.980 included over 7 million people.
00:04:51.160 I have no idea how you count that, although I do believe that they were a lot of places.
00:04:56.640 I saw it in the city where I live, in the suburbs, in places that you would consider to be pretty conservative.
00:05:03.860 I mean, there were a lot of people out there demonstrating.
00:05:07.040 Um, so this is, of course, the party of empathy and peace.
00:05:11.640 And so all of their demonstrations were peaceful, right?
00:05:15.140 And they were very joyful and, uh, very unifying.
00:05:19.640 And they were just out there trying to show us what it looks like to be good, compassionate Americans.
00:05:26.500 Well, let me show you some pictures of some demonstrators.
00:05:30.500 Here's full screen one.
00:05:32.180 Here's some highlights.
00:05:33.220 We've got this woman up here on the top corner there.
00:05:37.860 And in the video, which I think we might even, yeah, we have a video, I think, of her.
00:05:43.260 Do we have a video of her also?
00:05:45.340 Okay.
00:05:46.000 So we can see, and we can play that in a second, where she is, as people are filming her,
00:05:51.840 she is pretending to be Charlie Kirk shot in the neck.
00:05:54.600 So that's what she's doing there.
00:05:56.700 Lovely person.
00:05:57.820 She's also holding a Mexican flag, even though she's here in America.
00:06:01.520 Um, I don't think that she's a starving refugee.
00:06:05.000 I'm just going to kind of like put that together.
00:06:07.640 It doesn't seem, seem that way.
00:06:10.420 And then we've got this very disturbing thing.
00:06:12.740 We've got this guy right here who is dressed up as the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:06:20.060 So that's what he's wearing there.
00:06:22.620 He's wearing the shirt that the suspect was wearing when he murdered Charlie Kirk, wearing
00:06:28.560 the same kind of get up with the sunglasses and the hat.
00:06:31.980 And then we've got another protester here.
00:06:34.360 Which one heals faster?
00:06:36.620 Trump's ear.
00:06:37.720 Erica's heart.
00:06:39.180 So I think what they're trying to say there is that they were both fake, that those things
00:06:45.300 were set up, that they were some kind of political point.
00:06:49.180 I mean, how cold hearted can you be to minimize something like that?
00:06:54.160 Not only Trump's attempted assassination, but the grief of a widow.
00:06:59.320 I mean, you are so spiritually calloused and so cold.
00:07:05.980 If you not only thought that you just, I can't even imagine having that impulse at all, even
00:07:10.940 towards someone that I hated.
00:07:12.600 But then to take the time to plan that out and to write it down and to hold it up as if
00:07:17.480 you were proud of it.
00:07:18.680 Like you're looking at this.
00:07:20.020 How can you doubt that evil exists?
00:07:21.940 And if objective evil exists, then something else has to exist too.
00:07:26.500 I truly believe God can use even this evil to point people towards himself because that's
00:07:31.560 what he does.
00:07:32.180 But man.
00:07:32.920 And then we have another guitar.
00:07:35.100 This machine kills fascists.
00:07:37.240 That's a little mantra that we've been hearing over the years from progressives.
00:07:43.080 And this is everywhere.
00:07:44.580 We're not just picking out a few people.
00:07:46.260 I'm going to play you some videos in a second of something extremely disturbing.
00:07:51.880 And I'm not saying this represents every single protester out there.
00:07:55.700 I'm not saying this is every single person in the Democratic Party or every single progressive
00:08:00.460 out there.
00:08:01.280 But it's obviously enough people that are pro-violence, that are pro-assassination to make you second
00:08:09.940 guess if your progressive ideas and your progressive ideology really do have good intentions.
00:08:18.800 Like you should probably start thinking about that.
00:08:21.360 The party of love and peace and compassion.
00:08:25.920 They're the ones that are pro-assassination of their political enemies.
00:08:30.660 I don't know.
00:08:31.240 Maybe you should just start second guessing whether the Christian nationalists are really the bad
00:08:35.920 guys.
00:08:36.220 Have a moment of self-reflection.
00:08:38.220 Are you part of the bad team?
00:08:41.180 Are you actually on the wrong side of history?
00:08:44.780 I know that's tough.
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00:11:03.260 Okay, let me, I'm just going to warn you, this is disturbing.
00:11:06.140 I know that a lot of you watch Relatable, listen to Relatable with your kids.
00:11:11.280 And just know that the content that we're about to play is disturbing.
00:11:15.260 And maybe if they're mature enough, this can start some conversations that you can have.
00:11:20.000 But I just want you to be able to make the best decision.
00:11:22.760 But we have to be able to look evil in the eye and see what it really looks like and see, gosh, how much this world really needs Jesus.
00:11:30.480 So here is that woman from earlier, the picture that you saw imitating Charlie Kirk being shot, Sot 2.
00:11:37.460 Hey!
00:11:39.360 You ever heard about something, you f*****?
00:11:41.660 So there's a lot of reporting about who this woman is.
00:11:46.300 Some people are saying that she is an elementary school teacher and a name is going around that apparently matches her.
00:11:54.160 But the school that has kind of been like looped into this, that people are saying she, that's the school where she teaches.
00:12:01.880 They've said, no, this is not our employee.
00:12:04.960 And so because there seems to be some conflicting reports, I don't want to say the name that's floating around.
00:12:11.060 Because what if it's not right?
00:12:12.420 And what if that school is being targeted and the name of that teacher is being used and it's not her at all?
00:12:18.980 So I just don't want to accidentally do that.
00:12:21.160 This particular lady, though, like there is no mistaking what she was actually doing.
00:12:25.420 And that is evil and I just want to also be clear, like I support her actual identity being revealed and I do believe that she should lose her job.
00:12:35.380 Yes, there should be social consequences to being evil.
00:12:38.840 And as I've said before, that doesn't make me a radical.
00:12:42.140 That doesn't even make me anti-free speech.
00:12:44.520 It's not crazy for me to say, hey, if you are pro-assassination of your political enemies, I don't want you teaching kids.
00:12:51.500 I don't want you talking as a therapist to someone in a vulnerable mental health crisis.
00:12:58.720 I don't want you taking care of old people in the old folks home.
00:13:02.620 Like, I don't want you to be the person giving anesthesia to the guy who's about to get surgery.
00:13:09.880 Like, I don't think you should be in a position of taking care of vulnerable people, shaping their minds and like caring for their bodies.
00:13:18.020 You shouldn't.
00:13:18.600 Like, you should be as irrelevant to the human population as possible without actually going to jail.
00:13:27.660 Because I don't want there to be legal consequences for, you know, actual speech.
00:13:33.080 But there should be social consequences.
00:13:34.940 And of course, where actual threats and, you know, incentivizing violence come in, there is a legal component to that.
00:13:42.740 But there should be consequences for this kind of abject evil.
00:13:47.240 Okay, then we have this old lady.
00:13:50.360 And I have quite the commentary to say about this woman who, I mean, this is the kind of woman that you would walk, you know, you might run into her in the grocery store.
00:14:00.000 She would probably give her pleasantries and, you know, be very nice.
00:14:04.280 She looks normal.
00:14:05.220 She might be someone's grandmother.
00:14:06.680 I have to ask this because people on the other side are going to say that they feel like the Democrat Party has been mean recently with Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
00:14:20.440 Charlie Kirk is a piece of garbage.
00:14:22.060 Of course we were mean.
00:14:22.960 I am so tired of people saying, oh, but, you know, it's a terrible thing.
00:14:27.320 No, Hitler is dead.
00:14:29.060 I'm glad Hitler's dead.
00:14:30.600 Evil people have no place in my world.
00:14:35.060 He was a hateful human being.
00:14:38.080 It was disgusting the things that he said and did.
00:14:41.160 I have, you know, I don't have time for that.
00:14:43.580 I'm sorry.
00:14:44.100 I have to point my energy in other directions.
00:14:46.340 You are such a pointless person.
00:14:50.740 You just, you really are.
00:14:52.340 You suck the energy and joy and purpose and goodness from every room you walk into and you know it.
00:14:58.340 And that is why you are seeking fulfillment from this pointless political protest because you have probably actually been directing your energy into your profession, into plants, into politics your entire life rather than into people, which is why you are so incredibly miserable.
00:15:14.440 OK, like I said, this could be someone's grandmother, probably not, probably not.
00:15:20.520 And this is actually a consequence of like the childlessness epidemic that we have in society, that you have all of these just like listless people who don't know where to direct their energy.
00:15:32.940 And so we've talked about this before, this phenomenon, especially among older white women of misplaced mothering.
00:15:40.660 And because they are not channeling their God-given mothering instincts into people, into their own children, into the next generation in some way, they are channeling it in directions that are not actually healthy.
00:15:56.420 And so they believe that they are mothering the migrant, that they are mothering the criminal, that they are mothering the people who are on the margins of society.
00:16:06.260 And so this makes them feel better.
00:16:08.700 But it's actually a lazy way to demonstrate that you're a good person, which means you're not a good person at all.
00:16:14.800 In the same way that socialism is like outsourcing your compassion to the government, like this is social justice is outsourcing your virtue to the government.
00:16:26.400 And that's what's going on here.
00:16:28.820 And just like a spoiler, if you are cheering on the assassination of someone that you disagreed with, this husband and father, this evangelist, you are the evil person.
00:16:44.840 I just want you to know that, like you are the evil person.
00:16:48.320 And that, by the way, just a tip, when someone says something like that, oh, the evil that he said, the evil that he did, that's when you ask like what?
00:16:56.460 Very simple question.
00:16:57.660 Two words.
00:16:59.460 And this can get any discussion or debate really going, or it can shut it down.
00:17:04.740 Like what?
00:17:06.560 And just you don't have to try to step in and help them because it'll be awkward.
00:17:11.100 You don't have to alleviate the tension.
00:17:13.960 You don't have to try to put words in their mouth when they start stammering and stuttering.
00:17:18.640 You just be quiet.
00:17:19.640 Like what?
00:17:20.360 And when they can't tell you specifics, that actually, it's not really just about humiliating them.
00:17:28.780 It is also about helping them.
00:17:30.860 Because I can't tell you how often I have said like what.
00:17:33.960 And that has actually planted a seed in that person's brain to start thinking about, wait, hang on.
00:17:40.460 Why do I believe what I believe?
00:17:41.940 Why did I say that?
00:17:43.460 Wait, did I just repeat something that I've never really thought about before that I couldn't verify?
00:17:47.660 So those two words, like what, can help you think through why you believe what you believe, but also the person that you are opposing in that moment.
00:17:57.140 Okay, here are some more examples of things that were going on at these no kings protests over the weekend.
00:18:05.060 Sot 3.
00:18:06.060 With the shirt that says for Charlie.
00:18:08.940 Because I advocate for free speech.
00:18:11.100 Okay, do you have free speech?
00:18:12.820 Wear a shirt that says free speech.
00:18:14.320 Wear a shirt that says promote free debate.
00:18:16.540 Free press.
00:18:18.160 You get triggered because it has Charlie on there, right?
00:18:20.740 Because he was a racist.
00:18:22.380 Because he was a misogynist.
00:18:23.880 And that means that you are too.
00:18:25.800 Because you support him.
00:18:27.500 Get out!
00:18:28.580 Get out of here!
00:18:29.920 He hated people.
00:18:31.400 Yeah, just calm it down.
00:18:31.840 He hated anyone that wasn't white, that wasn't male, that wasn't straight.
00:18:37.160 He, Charlie, hated anyone that wasn't white, that wasn't male, that wasn't straight.
00:18:42.300 Okay.
00:18:43.060 Well, as someone who is not male, I can say that Charlie didn't hate me, didn't hate his wife, didn't hate his daughter.
00:18:52.440 This person's wearing like a Ruth Bader Ginsburg shirt there.
00:18:56.540 These people are just, you have to understand, I'm not saying this to be rude.
00:19:00.760 These people in these videos are very, very unwell.
00:19:05.140 That is true.
00:19:06.260 But it's not just, I don't want it to say like mental health crisis.
00:19:09.820 Because I actually think that's just an excuse for evil.
00:19:13.180 Because evil really exists.
00:19:15.400 And it's evil that can make you very stupid.
00:19:18.380 Sin makes you stupid.
00:19:19.440 And iniquity makes you insane.
00:19:22.360 We can use those alliterations.
00:19:25.280 And I'm not saying that's always the case.
00:19:27.580 But very often that's the case.
00:19:28.860 I don't want to let these people off the hook just because they're probably on, you know, three different SSRIs.
00:19:33.940 That doesn't excuse being a horrible person.
00:19:37.220 There are plenty of people who do actually struggle with mental health issues that are not like this.
00:19:42.640 So those two things really do go hand in hand in this case.
00:19:46.960 And it's scary.
00:19:48.440 It's very scary when you think about it.
00:19:50.880 Okay.
00:19:51.520 So a lot of these people are elderly.
00:19:53.500 Not the person we just saw in that video.
00:19:55.460 But definitely older baby boomer generation.
00:19:58.380 And I just want to know, like, what happened there?
00:20:02.360 Stop four.
00:20:03.300 Go home.
00:20:04.940 Donald Trump has got to go.
00:20:06.880 Justice.
00:20:07.940 When do we want?
00:20:08.880 Now.
00:20:09.680 If we all get it.
00:20:11.860 What do we want?
00:20:13.020 Justice.
00:20:13.980 When do we want it?
00:20:14.980 Now.
00:20:15.680 No key.
00:20:16.680 USA.
00:20:17.640 We're free of peace.
00:20:18.920 No crowds.
00:20:20.160 No keys.
00:20:21.260 We're free of people.
00:20:22.360 We're free of peace.
00:20:25.160 Where are your grandkids?
00:20:26.520 Where are your grandkids?
00:20:29.060 Certainly there's a soccer game that you should be at right now.
00:20:33.080 Or something.
00:20:34.100 Like, what happened to elderly people playing bridge?
00:20:37.900 My grandmother, God bless her soul, in her later years, she did a lot of Bible study.
00:20:46.640 She did a lot of roomie cube.
00:20:49.020 She loved to play bingo and go to the hair and the nail salon.
00:20:53.020 She loved to visit with us.
00:20:55.320 Because, I mean, of course, if you are at an age where you can continue to work and you have that strength, I think that's great.
00:21:02.780 But definitely your last years should not be at this kind of completely empty protest.
00:21:11.080 I mean, if you can stand up for what is truly right, no matter what your age is, I think that's a good thing here.
00:21:16.600 But this, something that doesn't make any sense, I don't think it's a good way to spend your time.
00:21:23.120 Because truly, the no kinks protest by people who would love a kink, who love tyranny, who actually love dictatorships, it just doesn't make any sense.
00:21:36.800 I mean, these are the very people who wanted to force kids to wear masks, who wanted you to be fired from your job if you didn't get an experimental vaccine.
00:21:46.200 These are the very same people that support taking children out of their parents' homes if their parents don't affirm the stated gender identity of a person who don't want Christians to be able to adopt in places like Oregon or Washington or Illinois,
00:22:01.300 because they won't affirm the potential gender identity of a future foster kid.
00:22:07.540 I mean, these are not made up scenarios.
00:22:09.800 These are stories that we have covered in specificity many times over the years.
00:22:13.580 They supported Joe Biden directing the USDA to remove paid student lunches from poor schools that didn't abide by the rewrite of Title IX,
00:22:23.900 which said you have to allow boys into girls' bathrooms or you don't get lunch for poor kids.
00:22:28.660 That's something that actually happened under Joe Biden.
00:22:31.660 Did any of these no kinks protesters have anything to say about that?
00:22:36.060 COVID tyranny, medical tyranny, gender tyranny.
00:22:41.040 Over and over again, we have seen Democrats support more government overreach, lurching closer to socialism.
00:22:49.120 I mean, these very people who are demonstrating in places like New York City saying no kings are about to elect Momdani,
00:22:57.220 who is an out-and-out socialist, who does not believe in personal freedoms,
00:23:02.780 who does believe that the government should step in and curb our constitutional liberties for the sake of equality and equity.
00:23:10.600 I mean, over and over again, we've seen this.
00:23:12.960 They support the forced redistribution of wealth and capital to those who are either impoverished
00:23:20.100 or those who have darker skin color than us in the name of equality.
00:23:23.920 These are the people who say no kings.
00:23:26.400 Like, you know which side the Democrats would have been on in 1776.
00:23:31.640 Like, you know it wouldn't have been on the side of the republic.
00:23:35.340 You know they would have been cheering on King George.
00:23:37.700 And the funny thing is, also, you have a lot of these people, like, dressed up as founders.
00:23:43.380 Okay, well, the founders also wrote the Second Amendment.
00:23:46.520 Y'all completely disdain the Constitution, except when you think that it is a way to manipulate
00:23:53.600 the apolitical people who don't really know what's going on into opposing Donald Trump.
00:24:00.920 Like, it's just crazy to think these are the people that people like David French and Russell Moore
00:24:08.080 actually think are more right and more sophisticated and, like, more godly in a lot of ways
00:24:15.540 than the conservatives who support Donald Trump.
00:24:19.420 I mean, these people have been talking about, like, winsomeness and peace and constitutionality,
00:24:26.640 but they have nothing to say about the abject evil on their own side.
00:24:30.600 But they will, like, pick the most random people that they can find that are kind of associated
00:24:35.520 with the right and be like, this is representative of conservatism and MAGA Christianity.
00:24:41.840 I don't know.
00:24:43.680 Maybe the motives aren't so pure there.
00:24:47.300 And then we have another round of peaceful protesters.
00:24:50.500 We've got a, as you can see there, pinata.
00:24:52.880 We've got even kids, pinata of Trump, even kids hitting this pinata, teaching kids to
00:25:00.700 hate their president and hate people.
00:25:05.920 And that violence is an answer if they disagree with someone.
00:25:09.880 That's great.
00:25:11.040 Exciting.
00:25:11.700 I'm glad that these are our future voters, future neighbors of our children.
00:25:16.960 That's awesome.
00:25:19.280 And then we also have these inflatable costumes.
00:25:21.760 It's also just, like, very cringe and silly.
00:25:25.460 Very cringe and silly.
00:25:27.540 And then we have this lovely guy, Sot6.
00:25:33.700 Who are you going to kill?
00:25:35.480 Nazis.
00:25:36.300 Who do you define as a Nazi?
00:25:38.940 What do you mean?
00:25:39.520 It's pretty...
00:25:40.480 In this context, who's a Nazi?
00:25:42.840 Stephen Miller's a Nazi.
00:25:43.980 So you're going to kill Stephen Miller?
00:25:45.180 If I had a chance, yeah, I would.
00:25:46.740 I don't know if I had something I'd say on camera, bro.
00:25:48.760 Okay, so that guy needs to be checked out by the authorities.
00:25:54.800 He says that he would kill Stephen Miller if he had a chance.
00:25:59.100 Stephen Miller has been so incredibly villainized by the left.
00:26:03.500 And I just want to know, truly, like, what is his horrible crime?
00:26:07.380 Is his horrible crime that he believes in deporting illegal aliens, especially violent ones?
00:26:12.940 Is his horrible crime that we should have borders and that he believes in the sovereignty of our nation?
00:26:18.500 Again, like, 99% of human history has believed about nations.
00:26:23.520 Like, what is it?
00:26:25.000 Is that he's kind of, like, mean sometimes or he says some things that are kind of, like, harsh?
00:26:32.360 Like, what is it?
00:26:33.360 Because I don't care about that.
00:26:34.840 And I have been in interviews, like, baited into trying to criticize and, like, distance conservatism from Stephen Miller.
00:26:42.600 And I'm just, like, not, I'm not falling for that.
00:26:45.600 Like, why is he elevated as the worst guy ever just because he is 100% right on immigration policy?
00:26:53.800 I just want to know.
00:26:54.600 Like, I love people that hate evil.
00:26:58.860 Like, I really support people that are angry about evil.
00:27:03.800 And I'm not talking about every single illegal immigrant being a criminal gang member.
00:27:10.640 But that is who he has his sights set on.
00:27:13.680 And he also, and he's shared this, that he was texting with Charlie before Charlie died.
00:27:18.420 Like, he is intent upon, like, breaking up these left-wing radical cells of domestic terrorists.
00:27:25.660 And I support people who oppose evil.
00:27:29.400 And Stephen Miller, to me, seems to be very opposed to evil.
00:27:33.460 But, of course, when you have people like this who are just so dead morally, like, evil is good and good is evil to them.
00:27:41.760 Like, you are the bad guy.
00:27:43.940 You are the bad guy, dude.
00:27:45.980 Very, I mean, very scary.
00:27:47.480 There's an upside to this and a downside to this.
00:27:50.120 Like, all of this stuff.
00:27:51.720 The upside, well, let me start with the downside.
00:27:54.560 The downside is that you are really, literally risking your life when you hold and say common-sense positions like our nation should have borders.
00:28:03.740 So that's not good.
00:28:05.600 But then the upside is that the normal person doesn't want to be associated with people like this.
00:28:12.640 Normies watch something like this.
00:28:14.960 And at the very best, it's extremely dorky.
00:28:18.300 At the very worst, it is so violent and ugly and extreme that most people, even if they would be sympathetic to the progressive side, are like, well, I don't want to go there.
00:28:29.980 And that has been a huge shift in the past few years.
00:28:34.740 Like, this is, I hope Republicans have a strategy, even more of a strategy to get the suburban mom, because the average suburban mom looks at something like that and it's like, I don't want to sound like that.
00:28:44.980 I don't want to look like that and I don't want to smell like that.
00:28:47.240 So most normie people are just naturally, like, repulsed by the movement represented by what we see here.
00:28:57.120 And so there has to be a better alternative.
00:29:00.800 However, really, it's just going to be, I think, leaning to the right by default.
00:29:05.180 So downside and upside to all of this.
00:29:08.160 All right.
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00:30:29.120 According to Blaze Media, left-wing billionaire George Soros has been funding foundations that financially support the No Kings protest against Donald Trump.
00:30:43.180 That should be no surprise.
00:30:44.760 Every left-wing activist group basically is funded by the Open Society, which is George Soros' foundation.
00:30:52.240 Fox News says that Soros' Open Society Action Fund gave a $3 million grant to an organization named Indivisible.
00:31:02.020 Indivisible.
00:31:03.520 So ironic.
00:31:04.280 Like every progressive euphemism, it actually means the opposite of what they say.
00:31:09.340 They're extremely divisive.
00:31:11.400 And they are behind many of these No Kings protests.
00:31:15.080 The website for the Open Society Foundation described the two-year grant as supporting the group's social welfare activities.
00:31:22.400 Again, another euphemism.
00:31:24.120 They are not for the welfare, the well-being of society.
00:31:27.660 The Fox News report found that Open Society Foundations had granted more than $7.61 million to another organization that's also part of orchestrating the protests.
00:31:38.640 It is also worth pointing out that the protesters are marching against Donald Trump, who has only served for four years and nine months.
00:31:47.660 But the Democrat politicians that they support unwaveringly have been serving for a very long time.
00:31:53.720 Chuck Schumer, 45 years in Congress.
00:31:55.740 Nancy Pelosi, 42 years.
00:31:58.680 Longer than we've been alive.
00:32:00.420 My goodness.
00:32:01.360 Elizabeth Warren, 15 years in Congress.
00:32:03.600 Bernie Sanders, 34 years in Congress.
00:32:06.180 Dick Durbin, 43 years in Congress.
00:32:08.320 I feel like Elizabeth Warren has been in Congress a lot longer than 15 years.
00:32:13.080 Anyway, and so these people who have been grabbing for power, who oppose the Constitution,
00:32:20.420 especially when it comes to religious liberty, especially when it comes to the Second Amendment.
00:32:25.520 These people aren't being protested against, but the guy who supports your Second Amendment rights,
00:32:30.380 who supports your free speech rights, who has been a champion for religious liberty,
00:32:34.520 who is allowing you to demonstrate and protest and criticize and joke about killing him and assaulting him,
00:32:40.600 that guy is the dictator.
00:32:42.580 That guy is the source of all of our problems.
00:32:45.420 Like, just an FYI, kings don't allow you to protest against them.
00:32:50.180 Tyrannical kings don't allow you to criticize them.
00:32:57.220 Tyrannical kings don't allow you to organize billion-dollar demonstrations against their rule.
00:33:06.540 Okay?
00:33:08.020 Tyrannical kings don't allow you to keep in bare arms.
00:33:11.160 They don't allow free speech.
00:33:13.120 They don't allow your individual rights.
00:33:15.160 They don't allow states' rights.
00:33:17.320 Like, that's not what's going on here.
00:33:19.420 What's going on is that we finally have a president who actually cares about our country,
00:33:23.560 cares about our borders, cares about our sovereignty,
00:33:25.680 and cares about basic safety in once great American cities.
00:33:30.320 That's the crime that he is committing here.
00:33:33.360 It's just insane.
00:33:35.440 Speaker Mike Johnson highlighted the ridiculousness of No King's Day.
00:33:39.460 He said this, Sot 7.
00:33:40.800 I was a First Amendment lawyer for 20 years.
00:33:42.720 We defend that right.
00:33:43.600 But the irony of the message is pretty clear for everyone.
00:33:46.780 If President Trump was a king, the government would be open right now.
00:33:49.900 If President Trump was a king, they would not have been able to engage in that free speech exercise out on the mall,
00:33:54.400 by the way, which was open because President Trump hasn't closed it.
00:33:57.560 In the last shutdown, 2013 era, President Obama closed the National Mall.
00:34:03.200 It closed all the national parks.
00:34:04.400 Didn't allow people to engage in all this.
00:34:05.840 So, I mean, they needed a stunt.
00:34:08.180 They needed a show.
00:34:09.620 Chuck Schumer needs cover right now.
00:34:11.380 He's closed the government down because he needs political cover, and this was a part of it.
00:34:16.160 Yep.
00:34:16.900 It is absolutely absurd.
00:34:18.940 And I'm sad that people have been caught up in this ridiculous propaganda and rhetoric.
00:34:23.640 Like, this is, like, soul-stealing stuff.
00:34:27.860 Like, soul-sucking stuff.
00:34:29.600 You know, when people go down the Blue Anon rabbit hole, I mean, they really just become obsessive.
00:34:36.940 And I know it can feel hard to talk to them, especially the people in your life.
00:34:41.500 But remember, your job is just to plant a seed.
00:34:44.480 Plant a seed, love them.
00:34:46.040 Plant a seed, love them.
00:34:47.260 Your job isn't to win every debate or to win every argument.
00:34:50.080 Um, so do the best that you can.
00:34:53.260 And a lot of you are still, you know, you might be here for the first time, uh, because of the
00:34:58.320 Jubilee debate that you watched a couple weeks ago.
00:35:02.900 And let me tell you, like, it is possible to try to be persuasive and to be winsome and to be
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00:35:18.440 make your point.
00:35:20.000 Um, and, you know, you've heard a lot of people for a long time, especially the David
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00:35:34.360 You can't like Donald Trump.
00:35:36.720 You certainly can't be, like, a voting Republican.
00:35:39.740 Um, and you're going to have to quietly compromise on some issues to win people over from the world.
00:35:44.540 Well, Charlie Kirk proved that that wasn't true, but I hope that if you get something
00:35:49.160 from the Jubilee debate, it's that you can have compassion without compromise and you
00:35:54.560 can connect without conceding and that you don't actually have to betray your values when
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00:37:32.700 Speaking of defending our beliefs, we need to go to the other side of the world, to Nigeria,
00:37:39.000 where there's a very different kind of persecution that is going on there to the Christians, for
00:37:45.100 the Christians.
00:37:45.640 And as happens in many countries, but especially in Africa, the radical Islamists target Christians
00:37:54.960 in particular.
00:37:56.060 They target churches.
00:37:57.340 They target worship gatherings.
00:37:59.340 And they slaughter men, women, and children, enslave them, try to get them to convert at gunpoint.
00:38:06.560 And so while the craziness and the chaos is going on over here, let us not forget that
00:38:12.880 we have Christians around the world, in Nigeria and elsewhere, actually being slaughtered for
00:38:18.200 their faith.
00:38:18.940 So Nigeria is one of the most dangerous countries for Christians.
00:38:22.800 They face severe violence.
00:38:24.380 The government totally denies it.
00:38:26.740 They deny that it's religiously motivated.
00:38:29.820 But videos, articles, statistics about attacks on Christians have gone viral, prompting global
00:38:34.880 attention.
00:38:35.480 And here we have a Nigerian pastor calling on President Trump for help, Saadet.
00:38:40.640 Look at it here on ground.
00:38:43.020 Special advisor to Trump.
00:38:45.840 Now, please tell Trump to save our life in Nigeria.
00:38:53.900 He has been building to settle peace between Israel and also Hamas.
00:39:01.280 Now, his attention, I'm calling your attention to Nigeria.
00:39:07.020 They are killing Christians in Nigeria.
00:39:10.000 Massacre Christians.
00:39:11.720 If they say they kill Muslims, these Muslims are being killed.
00:39:15.720 By who?
00:39:17.080 By Muslims.
00:39:18.060 Well, I mean, you could just tell how devastating he is.
00:39:23.480 And if you're just listening to this, he is conducting a mass burial for 13 victims.
00:39:27.520 And we covered up the bodies there.
00:39:29.300 They were killed overnight on Tuesday, October 14th.
00:39:33.000 And he's also, like, urging his neighbors to arm themselves, to defend themselves.
00:39:37.720 And, of course, it is President Trump's top priority to put the safety and security and well-being of Americans first because he is the leader of America.
00:39:48.180 And that is every government's righteous responsibility to put the well-being of their people first.
00:39:54.780 And I think that we can and should be America first and also as Christians have a vested interest in the persecuted body of Christ.
00:40:04.940 And if there is a way for us to help and if there is a way for us to stop this injustice while also prioritizing the needs and safety and well-being of Americans,
00:40:16.560 then, of course, I think that we as Christians should advocate that our government does do something because my heart breaks for these children and for, gosh, these people who have been terrorized for so long.
00:40:31.300 So here's what's going on.
00:40:32.900 This is according to Open Doors.
00:40:35.520 Over 7,000 Christians were killed in Nigeria in the first seven months of 2025, according to InterSociety.
00:40:41.900 Between 2009 and 2023, at least 52,000 Christians killed, 18,500 abducted, most of them probably dead.
00:40:50.140 Over 20,000 churches and Christian schools attacked.
00:40:53.600 From October 2022 to September 2023, 82% of Christians killed globally died in Nigeria.
00:41:01.500 My goodness, think about that.
00:41:03.640 According to Open Doors, a U.S. group tracking persecution, Christians are 6.5 times more likely to be killed
00:41:11.040 and 5.1 times more likely to be abducted than Muslims in northern Nigeria.
00:41:16.440 Of course, if you need to know just the innate, ideological, violent problems with Islam,
00:41:24.840 you need to go back and you need to watch or listen to Friday's episode, okay?
00:41:28.220 This is not just like, oh, yeah, wow, this is just an aberration.
00:41:31.720 This is just an exception.
00:41:33.620 While this doesn't happen everywhere, there's actually an ideological reason why it happens in some places and not others.
00:41:39.760 And it's not because it's possible to have, like, a modern form of Islam.
00:41:46.120 It is there innately in its books.
00:41:50.860 Kidnapping is a major issue.
00:41:52.600 It actually helps empower Islam.
00:41:55.580 Over 20,000 abductions from 2019 to 2023.
00:41:59.880 They target Christians because there are higher ransoms that they can put on the head of a Christian,
00:42:08.600 and they know that these Christian organizations will work to try to free these victims.
00:42:17.020 And so this actually helps fund.
00:42:19.180 It's such a double-edged sword.
00:42:20.660 It helps fund the Islamic regime there.
00:42:22.980 Survivors report brutal treatment by Boko Haram and ISIS West Africa,
00:42:28.140 including torture and pressure to convert to Islam.
00:42:30.940 Radical Islamist violence is spreading beyond Nigeria to countries like Sudan, the Congo, Mozambique.
00:42:38.940 Nigeria's population of 242 million is split between Muslims and Christians.
00:42:45.400 And so that just tells you so much about the difference between Islam and Christianity.
00:42:50.420 There are a ton of Christians in Nigeria.
00:42:52.340 It's not that they're this tiny population, but then you have an ideology that is motivated
00:42:59.340 by violence and power and motivated by invasion and motivated by forced conversion.
00:43:05.260 And then you have an ideology that is motivated by love and peace and evangelism and making the
00:43:12.360 world around them better.
00:43:14.440 And obviously, right now, those are the people being targeted, and that's how it always is.
00:43:19.380 That's how it always is.
00:43:20.140 Even the Crusades, the history that we hear now about the Crusades, that Christians were
00:43:24.760 just randomly attacking Muslims and did all these terrible things, that's not even true.
00:43:29.360 That was even defense and pushing back against darkness.
00:43:32.440 And so it just shows you the dichotomy, the good versus evil going on here, and the fact
00:43:38.060 that we've reached this morally relativistic place that tells us that Islam is this religion
00:43:43.560 of peace and that we should just invite them into the West to basically colonize American cities.
00:43:49.020 It's just literally insane.
00:43:50.880 It's so wrong.
00:43:52.380 And it is so unloving to our neighbors to believe that and to allow that.
00:43:57.620 It's evil immigration policy that has allowed that over the past 20 years.
00:44:01.360 I saw a horrible video of a woman who she was telling the story and her two children were
00:44:09.080 slaughtered in front of her, three years old, 10 months old, and her husband.
00:44:13.320 She was kidnapped along with another family member, but she was punished by her hand being
00:44:18.800 chopped off.
00:44:19.460 And you could see like in the video that she just had like a nub of an arm because these
00:44:24.980 Islamic groups kidnapped her and tortured her.
00:44:27.740 There has been some U.S. involvement.
00:44:31.480 There was a White House meeting in 2018 between Trump and the Nigerian president, and Trump
00:44:39.200 expressed deep concern over the attacks.
00:44:42.420 He said, we have had a very serious problem with Christians who are being murdered in Nigeria.
00:44:46.380 We are going to be working on that problem very, very hard because we can't allow that
00:44:50.200 to happen.
00:44:50.820 And obviously, I think that's a very good thing.
00:44:53.460 Senator Ted Cruz called this out just a couple weeks ago.
00:44:57.920 He said, officials in Nigeria are ignoring and even facilitating the mass murder of Christians
00:45:03.120 by Islamist jihadists.
00:45:04.820 It's time to hold those responsible accountable.
00:45:07.000 My Nigeria Religious Freedom Accountability Act would target these officials with powerful
00:45:11.620 sanctions and other tools.
00:45:14.560 And so if we've learned anything in this episode, it's that evil actually exists.
00:45:19.220 Evil really exists.
00:45:20.360 Darkness exists.
00:45:21.040 Not every religion is the same.
00:45:23.460 Not every idea is the same.
00:45:26.060 There is real objective morality out there, and ideas have consequences.
00:45:30.860 Moral relativism has consequences.
00:45:33.300 It's led to really bad foreign policy, domestic policy, and immigration policy.
00:45:38.040 If you want to know more about the consequences of quote-unquote compassionate progressive immigration
00:45:44.060 policy, I really do encourage you to read my book.
00:45:47.280 I'm not even just trying to sell it.
00:45:48.640 You can borrow it from a friend.
00:45:49.740 You can go to the library.
00:45:50.740 It's there.
00:45:51.300 And at the very least, read the immigration chapter of my book.
00:45:55.900 It was one of the most gut-wrenching ones for me to write, and I think actually one of the
00:46:00.820 most persuasive chapters because I became so passionate about it as I was researching and
00:46:06.660 writing that chapter very unexpectedly.
00:46:08.560 I learned a lot while writing it, so I know you will, too, by reading it.
00:46:14.220 These people who are advocating for open borders and to stop deportations, you do not love your
00:46:19.080 neighbor.
00:46:20.040 You don't.
00:46:20.960 You are actually putting them in harm's way because the consequences of bad immigration
00:46:25.080 policy aren't affecting you.
00:46:27.480 Um, and unfortunately, we also see the consequence of the dereliction of duty of governments.
00:46:35.040 When Nigeria doesn't put its people first and doesn't enact peace through strength, this
00:46:40.960 is what you get.
00:46:41.920 You get Christians being slaughtered.
00:46:43.700 So let us remember our persecuted brothers and sisters.
00:46:47.420 That is something that we are commanded to do, that as Christians, first and foremost,
00:46:52.260 our allegiance is to the kingdom of heaven.
00:46:54.440 First and foremost, our allegiance is to the body of Christ.
00:46:58.100 And we have more in common eternally with our brothers and sisters in Christ in Nigeria than
00:47:05.640 we have with our atheist neighbor who shares our political leanings, who shares our American
00:47:10.740 culture, who looks like us, who sounds like us.
00:47:13.720 We have more eternally and profoundly in common with Christians across the world who are being
00:47:19.340 persecuted and slaughtered for their faith.
00:47:22.060 So let us pray for them.
00:47:23.720 Let us be with them.
00:47:24.940 And we'll, we're not done talking about this.
00:47:27.220 We're going to be talking to people who have firsthand knowledge of what's going on there.
00:47:31.460 And we'll talk more about what we can do to help.
00:47:33.580 But for now, pray, pray without ceasing.
00:47:36.840 And remember that the prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.
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00:48:56.400 Well, speaking of objective evil, I have to talk about this.
00:48:59.720 You've probably heard about this, but the story about this attorney general candidate in the
00:49:06.780 state of Virginia named Jay Jones.
00:49:10.100 Democrats are facing criticism right now because they are not demanding that this guy pull out
00:49:15.940 of the race because of texts that were revealed from 2022 in which he fantasized about killing
00:49:25.360 his Republican colleague.
00:49:27.320 He wrote a text, this guy named Jay Jones, in 2022 about putting two bullets into the head
00:49:34.240 of then-Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert and also mentioned murdering Gilbert's children.
00:49:41.060 So he said this, and we'll put up the screenshots of the text, three people, two bullets, Gilbert,
00:49:45.780 Hitler, and Pol Pot.
00:49:48.040 Gilbert gets two bullets to the head and later added that Gilbert would receive both bullets
00:49:52.500 every time in a hypothetical scenario.
00:49:55.980 And this other person seems to be concerned about this.
00:50:00.260 You were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die.
00:50:06.000 So Jennifer Gilbert, I guess, is the wife of Todd Gilbert.
00:50:09.960 And then she said this person who Jay Jones is texting with really just gets him to say,
00:50:17.580 like, did you really mean that, that you wanted these people to die?
00:50:20.780 And he says, I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding little fascists?
00:50:27.280 Yes.
00:50:28.240 So again, these are not just like random people that I'm cherry picking here.
00:50:33.000 This is someone who is running for a very high office, the law enforcement office in the state
00:50:40.220 of Virginia, who says that he is out to protect your children.
00:50:43.320 He believes that the children of people who disagree with him will or should die and should
00:50:50.180 be murdered and should die bleeding in the arms of their parents.
00:50:55.140 Virginia, I know you went blue for the election, which was very sad.
00:51:01.740 And I know that you've been a swing state for a long time, but can you do better than this?
00:51:07.240 Can you do better than this?
00:51:09.380 And then Republicans have been put on the spot about these texts between young Republicans,
00:51:14.700 I think in the state of New York, but it was leaked by Politico reported on.
00:51:21.260 And all of these Republican politicians and Republican commentators are being put on the spot
00:51:26.260 to condemn these kids as if that is equivalent.
00:51:29.600 It's not equivalent.
00:51:30.600 Like, these were kids talking about stupid stuff.
00:51:35.180 Some of the things were completely decontextualized and sarcastic.
00:51:40.260 It's not the same at all, even if they weren't.
00:51:43.060 You can say, obviously, yeah, they shouldn't be saying stuff like that.
00:51:46.500 But that has no impact on anyone.
00:51:50.600 That has no influence on anyone.
00:51:53.400 We are talking about a Democrat politician who is wanting people to die,
00:51:59.580 who was wanting children to be dead.
00:52:01.400 Like, it's not even a comparison, the two things.
00:52:05.800 And the fact that Republicans are speaking up and condemning the leaked private messages
00:52:11.940 of a bunch of young Republicans, but you cannot get a Democrat to say that this guy should pull
00:52:17.620 out of the race, that's crazy.
00:52:20.740 Here's thought 10.
00:52:22.480 Ms. Member, I understand what you're saying about the voters, but for you yourself,
00:52:25.660 do you still continue to endorse Jay Jones?
00:52:28.800 15 seconds.
00:52:29.860 Yes or no?
00:52:30.480 I, we are all running our individual races.
00:52:33.080 I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant governor nominee.
00:52:37.000 And it asks every person to make their own decision.
00:52:40.840 I am running my race to serve Virginia, and that is what I intend to do.
00:52:46.300 Thank you, Ms. Spamburger.
00:52:48.520 We just want to clarify, you know, what you're saying is that as of now, you still endorse
00:52:54.540 Jay Jones as attorney general.
00:52:56.520 I'm saying as of now, it's up to every voter to make their own individual decision.
00:53:00.700 I am running for governor.
00:53:01.800 I am accountable for the words that I say, for the acts that I take, for the policies that
00:53:07.920 I have put out.
00:53:09.240 Weak, weak, so weak.
00:53:14.420 Also, I just want to like, I just want to say this to women.
00:53:17.620 I know that when you're in a role of like running for a political office, you want to
00:53:21.880 seem strong and all of that.
00:53:23.320 Never stand with your feet wider than your hips.
00:53:25.620 Okay, that just looks silly.
00:53:27.200 It looks like you're trying to project strength, but actually you came across as very weak because
00:53:31.300 of the words that you said there and you look silly.
00:53:33.920 And by the way, like, I think that Winsome Sears is amazing and I really hope that she
00:53:40.820 wins this race.
00:53:42.200 Come on, Virginia.
00:53:43.100 You can do better than that.
00:53:44.460 Even if you don't like Republicans, surely you can do better than that.
00:53:48.700 But again, I just want you to know that within progressive ideology is violence.
00:53:55.440 Okay, it is at the heart of progressive ideology.
00:53:57.940 It's not a bug.
00:53:59.480 Like, it is a feature of progressive ideology.
00:54:01.820 I'm not saying that you as a progressive out there, that you are necessarily violent
00:54:06.480 or that your friends are violent, but just look throughout human history.
00:54:10.620 Look at the 20th century, every left wing movement in particular, every collectivist
00:54:16.400 totalitarian movement, whether it's fascist or whether it's communist or whether it's
00:54:20.740 socialist, of course, is deadly.
00:54:23.100 But if you look at the deadliest movements of the 20th century, socialism, communism in
00:54:29.700 China, Vietnam, North Korea, I mean, everywhere that left wing collectivism was established,
00:54:41.300 millions and millions of people were slaughtered.
00:54:44.100 Okay, it is a part of it.
00:54:46.000 It's been a part of it from its beginnings.
00:54:48.880 Marxism has always operated this way.
00:54:50.940 So you can just leave, like you can just evaluate your worldview and decide, yeah, this is not
00:54:56.280 something I want to be a part of.
00:54:57.600 That would be the smart evaluation to make.
00:55:01.640 Evil really does exist.
00:55:03.980 And the kingdom of heaven is not Republican.
00:55:07.020 It's not red or blue.
00:55:08.920 That's not the argument.
00:55:10.360 It's just to say that good and evil exists.
00:55:12.540 And one party happens to celebrate evil more than the other.
00:55:16.240 That's just a fact.
00:55:17.880 All right.
00:55:18.200 I do just want to close on this last thing.
00:55:21.480 And that is Trump's moves on IVF.
00:55:24.780 We've talked about this before and how I think he goes in the wrong direction when it comes
00:55:29.660 to supporting IVF.
00:55:31.220 And so I just want to talk about that.
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00:56:49.200 This is according to the White House and the Associated Press.
00:56:53.020 President Donald Trump announced initiatives to expand access to in vitro fertilization
00:56:56.820 and reduce associated costs.
00:56:58.640 Each cycle of IVF can cost $12,000 to $25,000 and often multiple cycles are required to achieve
00:57:04.420 a pregnancy.
00:57:05.640 Trump said, we want to make it easier for all couples to have babies.
00:57:08.860 In the Trump administration, we want to make it easier for all couples to have babies, raise
00:57:15.840 children and start the families they've always dreamed about.
00:57:19.880 That's why today I'm pleased to announce that after extensive negotiations,
00:57:24.720 EMD Serrano, the largest fertility drug manufacturer in the world, has agreed to provide massive discounts to all
00:57:31.800 fertility drugs they sell in the United States, including the most popular drug of all, the IVF drug,
00:57:39.240 Go-Null-F.
00:57:41.480 So it's Go-Null-F.
00:57:42.460 OK, I'm sorry.
00:57:44.920 I was just laughing at how he how he says things.
00:57:48.740 Dr.
00:57:49.220 Mehmet Oz, he is the head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
00:57:53.880 He said there's going to be a lot of Trump babies.
00:57:55.600 I think that's a good thing.
00:57:56.560 You do see Republican from Alabama, Katie Britt, sitting there behind him.
00:58:01.800 And she has sponsored legislation in the past that is very pro-IVF.
00:58:07.700 And Trump says that, you know, he's unaware of conservative religious objections to IVF,
00:58:13.860 but IVF is inherently pro-life.
00:58:16.360 And I'll just say it doesn't surprise me at all that Trump has this position.
00:58:19.140 IVF is extremely popular, even among Republicans.
00:58:22.080 And he represents the position that a lot of people have.
00:58:25.200 I assume probably Senator Katie Britt has as well, that we should be wanting more babies.
00:58:29.440 Obviously, we're facing a fertility crisis, and everyone who wants to have a baby should
00:58:33.500 be able to have a baby, and they shouldn't be inhibited by the cost of IVF.
00:58:38.860 But let me just explain something.
00:58:40.540 The pro-life position is not just more babies.
00:58:43.780 We want more babies that are conceived in loving marriages between a man and a woman.
00:58:50.440 Being pro-life doesn't mean that we are pro every form of conception.
00:58:55.080 Obviously, we can agree, right, that not every form of conception is moral and
00:58:59.260 ethical, even though the baby itself is a blessing.
00:59:02.300 Like, we understand that conception via rape is not moral.
00:59:06.320 Like, we understand that that kind of conception or that the act of rape is not ethical.
00:59:14.980 Like, we believe that, right?
00:59:16.500 We don't support that.
00:59:17.680 Even if that results in the baby, we would not support that kind of conception.
00:59:22.400 Now, people say, oh, are you comparing IVF and rape?
00:59:25.220 Well, no, no, no.
00:59:26.380 Listen to the logic.
00:59:27.780 Listen to the principle of what I'm saying.
00:59:29.720 I'm not saying it's the same thing.
00:59:31.520 I am saying that we can agree that we should not support every act that may lead to conception.
00:59:38.240 As Christians, obviously, we don't believe in premarital sex.
00:59:41.980 We believe that that baby is a blessing should he or she be produced in that union.
00:59:46.960 But we are still against that act that may lead to conception.
00:59:51.820 So it's not, we want more babies at whatever the cost.
00:59:55.420 There are moral limitations to that.
00:59:57.600 There should be moral limitations to that.
00:59:59.340 And not just because we're prudes, but because we care about the well-being of children.
01:00:04.120 And there is a cost to IVF.
01:00:07.080 In fact, most babies, most embryos that are made via IVF, the vast majority of those embryos
01:00:13.240 will never be transferred and will never make it to a live birth.
01:00:17.940 In fact, the IVF industry kills more babies every year than the abortion industry does.
01:00:23.240 Because if we really believe in our pro-life ethics, that a life is a life, no matter how
01:00:29.060 small, that human life starts at conception, then how we treat those embryos that are created
01:00:35.220 in a lab, that are frozen indefinitely, that are very often eugenically discarded because
01:00:41.440 they're the wrong gender, or they have Down syndrome, or they have some other kind of
01:00:46.060 disability, or they were just that unlucky extra guy that was created and their parents
01:00:52.420 don't want them anymore.
01:00:54.420 All of that really matters.
01:00:56.460 It's not only about not killing a baby inside the womb.
01:01:00.960 It's about not discarding and mistreating life that has been created.
01:01:06.700 Those embryos are people made in the image of God.
01:01:10.020 They are in a stage of life that all of us have been in, that every single human that exists
01:01:14.840 has been in.
01:01:15.700 And just because they are in a lab doesn't make them less alive and doesn't make them
01:01:20.500 less valuable.
01:01:22.300 And so no, we are not pro-baby, whatever the cost.
01:01:26.400 Remember, when technology takes us from what is natural to what is possible, we have to
01:01:30.940 ask, but is that ethical?
01:01:33.000 Is that moral?
01:01:34.780 And especially as Christians, is that biblical?
01:01:38.760 The moral cost, the ethical cost, the human cost to IVF outweighs the benefits.
01:01:46.580 All people made through IVF are made in God's image and are just as valuable and worthy as
01:01:52.440 you and me.
01:01:53.440 Parents who have children via IVF love their children.
01:01:58.400 I understand that.
01:01:59.600 I know that.
01:02:01.060 And yet we have to hold these two thoughts at the same time in our minds.
01:02:05.480 And we started talking about IVF on this show far before it was a topic of conversation
01:02:10.200 on the right.
01:02:11.000 We started talking about it probably in 2019, I believe was our first episode on it.
01:02:16.820 It might've been early 2020.
01:02:19.000 And since then, we've talked about it a lot.
01:02:20.980 And I thank God that more and more people on the right talk about it now and what a problem
01:02:26.200 ethically it is and how it's bad for women too, by the way, terrible for women's health.
01:02:32.320 And I think it is our job to try to move Trump on this and move Republicans on this, that this
01:02:38.720 has to be a big deal for us if we're going to put children first, not just in the pro-life
01:02:42.720 conversation, but also in the reproductive technology conversation.
01:02:45.220 You can listen to my episodes with Katie Faust, also Jennifer Lawl.
01:02:50.460 We've talked about this a lot over the years.
01:02:52.180 And if I haven't convinced you in this short segment, hopefully one of the episodes over
01:02:56.720 the years that I've done on this can, because we've talked about this very thoroughly.
01:03:01.820 Again, good and evil really do exist.
01:03:04.740 Right and wrong really do exist.
01:03:06.780 And the Christian position on these things is unpopular, not just on the left, but sometimes
01:03:12.520 on the right.
01:03:13.660 But these little lives and honoring God's design, like these things are, they're worth it.
01:03:19.460 All right.
01:03:19.820 That's all we've got time for today.
01:03:21.220 We will be back here on Wednesday.
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