Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 20, 2025


Ep 1256 | "No Kingsā€ Protests, Nigerian Persecution, & Trump’s IVF Plan


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

161.04185

Word Count

10,412

Sentence Count

754

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

34


Summary

In this episode, we look at the persecution happening in Nigeria, how we should pray, and why it matters, as well as the No King's Day protests across the country. We will also be looking at Donald Trump's recent comments on IVF and the Virginia race.


Transcript

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00:01:01.380 Objective evil exists.
00:01:03.540 Today's stories prove that to be true.
00:01:05.600 We see some disturbing protesters from the No Kings demonstrations this weekend.
00:01:11.120 We will also be looking at the persecution happening in Nigeria, how we should pray, why it matters, as well as this very contentious race in Virginia.
00:01:20.600 We will also be closing the episode analyzing Trump's latest moves when it comes to IVF.
00:01:27.080 How should we be thinking about that as pro-life Christians?
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00:01:37.140 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.
00:01:48.420 Happy Monday.
00:01:49.520 Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend and that you are having a great start to your week.
00:01:54.740 Remember, God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch.
00:01:59.020 He is not surprised.
00:02:00.040 He is not taken aback.
00:02:01.160 He is not thrown off by anything.
00:02:03.080 He is never looking down and wondering what is going on.
00:02:05.680 He is sovereign over all of it.
00:02:07.740 And one day he is coming back and he will make every wrong right and he will do away with
00:02:13.060 all injustice and oppression and evildoers.
00:02:15.860 And when it seems like evil is winning, we can always go back to Psalm 37 that tells us
00:02:21.020 not to fret over the evildoer, even when it seems like he's prospering and succeeding, that
00:02:25.940 Jesus is coming back, that Jesus wins, that Jesus is King.
00:02:30.180 And so that is our hope.
00:02:31.240 And we walk forward in that hope, in that joy, knowing that we are completely immortal until
00:02:36.780 God calls us home.
00:02:37.940 And we serve a God who is surprised by nothing.
00:02:40.300 You are placed on this tiny speck of the universe, on this small spot of eternity by a God who
00:02:45.040 does nothing by accident.
00:02:47.400 Your existence, your children's and your children's children's existence, the time and the place
00:02:52.960 in which they are put in history, all of that is done by a God who does everything with purpose
00:02:59.320 and intention and cares very much.
00:03:02.300 So as we talk about some of the things that we're going to get into today, some of them
00:03:06.800 sad and troubling and disturbing, we have to remember that this is our Father's world and
00:03:12.400 that he's not doing nothing about evil.
00:03:14.820 His wrath is kindling.
00:03:15.900 And one day he will do away with all of it.
00:03:19.440 So if today you feel any kind of prompting, like, wow, who is this God?
00:03:24.120 What is Christianity?
00:03:25.160 What is this faith that she is talking about?
00:03:27.160 Don't ignore it.
00:03:28.060 Don't push that feeling down.
00:03:30.220 I have lots of resources that I've talked about on this show and on my Instagram about
00:03:34.400 how you can start reading the Bible and how to find a biblical church.
00:03:38.020 That is your next step.
00:03:40.760 All right.
00:03:41.140 Let's talk about some of these disturbing things that happened over the weekend, and
00:03:46.200 that would be the No King's Day demonstrations.
00:03:49.640 Now, you might have heard about No King's Day because they just had a whole day of demonstrations
00:03:54.520 just a couple months ago in July, but they're already back.
00:03:58.500 They're already having new demonstrations.
00:04:00.320 I guess the demand for No King's Day was just so high that they felt, okay, we need more
00:04:05.660 nationwide protests.
00:04:07.320 And if you're wondering, No King's Day is orchestrated by a bunch of far-left activist groups that
00:04:15.800 say that they are protesting against Donald Trump's tyranny, against his dictatorship.
00:04:22.760 Now, what exactly is he doing that is not in line with liberty, that is not in line with
00:04:29.840 democratic ideals?
00:04:31.540 It's unsure.
00:04:33.300 It's yet to be seen.
00:04:34.380 It seems that a big issue that they all have is that Donald Trump has the audacity to believe
00:04:41.920 in borders and believe that America should just be for American citizens, that we should put the
00:04:47.660 interest and the well-being and the safety of America before the interest and well-being and
00:04:52.700 safety of other countries.
00:04:54.400 The belief that literally everyone has had for all of time in every country, that is now
00:05:02.220 seen as dictatorial in some way.
00:05:05.800 So this happened on Saturday.
00:05:08.780 First one was, I think I said July, it was actually on June 14th.
00:05:13.540 According to the website, over 2,700 No King's Day protests took place, included over 7 million
00:05:20.440 people.
00:05:20.940 I have no idea how you count that, although I do believe that they were a lot of places.
00:05:26.640 I saw it in the city where I live, in the suburbs, in places that you would consider to be pretty
00:05:32.680 conservative.
00:05:33.860 I mean, there were a lot of people out there demonstrating.
00:05:37.820 So this is, of course, the party of empathy and peace.
00:05:41.500 And so all of their demonstrations were peaceful, right?
00:05:45.120 And they were very joyful and very unifying.
00:05:50.100 And they were just out there trying to show us what it looks like to be good, compassionate
00:05:55.860 Americans.
00:05:56.700 Well, let me show you some pictures of some demonstrators.
00:06:00.720 Here's full screen one.
00:06:02.260 Here's some highlights.
00:06:03.400 We've got this woman up here on the top corner there.
00:06:07.520 And in the video, which I think we might even, yeah, we have a video, I think, of her.
00:06:13.260 Do we have a video of her also?
00:06:15.340 OK, so we can see and we can play that in a second where she is, as people are filming
00:06:21.060 her, she is pretending to be Charlie Kirk shot in the neck.
00:06:24.640 So that's what she's doing there.
00:06:26.700 Lovely person.
00:06:27.820 She's also holding a Mexican flag, even though she's here in America.
00:06:32.480 I don't think that she's a starving refugee.
00:06:35.000 I'm just going to kind of like put that together.
00:06:37.640 Doesn't seem seem that way.
00:06:40.420 And then we've got this very disturbing thing.
00:06:42.740 We've got this guy right here who is dressed up as the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:06:50.040 So that's what he's wearing there.
00:06:52.600 He's wearing the shirt that the suspect was wearing when he murdered Charlie Kirk, wearing
00:06:58.560 the same kind of get up with the sunglasses and the hat.
00:07:01.260 And then we've got another protester here, which one heals faster, Trump's ear, Erica's
00:07:08.240 heart.
00:07:09.140 So I think what they're trying to say there is that they were both fake, that those things
00:07:15.280 were set up, that they were some kind of political point.
00:07:19.200 I mean, how cold hearted can you be to minimize something like that?
00:07:24.200 Not only Trump's attempted assassination, but the grief of a widow.
00:07:28.540 I mean, you are so spiritually calloused and so cold.
00:07:36.000 If you not only thought that you just I can't even imagine having that impulse at all, even
00:07:40.940 towards someone that I hated.
00:07:42.560 But then to take the time to plan that out and to write it down and to hold it up as if
00:07:47.460 you were proud of it.
00:07:48.760 Like you're looking at this.
00:07:50.080 How can you doubt that evil exists?
00:07:52.060 And if objective evil exists, then something else has to exist, too.
00:07:55.480 I truly believe God can use even this evil to point people towards himself because that's
00:08:01.540 what he does.
00:08:02.160 But man.
00:08:02.940 And then we have another guitar.
00:08:05.080 This machine kills fascists.
00:08:07.240 That's a little mantra that we've been hearing over the years from progressives.
00:08:12.700 And this is this is everywhere.
00:08:14.580 We're not just picking out a few people.
00:08:16.320 I'm going to play you some videos in a second of something extremely disturbing.
00:08:21.020 And I'm not saying this represents every single protester out there.
00:08:25.700 I'm not saying this is every single person in the Democratic Party or every single progressive
00:08:30.460 out there.
00:08:31.340 But it's obviously enough people that are pro-violence, that are pro-assassination to make you second
00:08:39.920 guess if your progressive ideas and your progressive ideology really do have good intentions.
00:08:48.160 Like, you should probably start thinking about that.
00:08:51.620 The party of love and peace and compassion.
00:08:55.980 They're the ones that are pro-assassination of their political enemies.
00:09:00.660 I don't know.
00:09:01.240 Maybe you should just start second guessing whether the Christian nationalists are really
00:09:05.480 the bad guys.
00:09:06.360 Have a moment of self-reflection.
00:09:08.220 Are you part of the bad team?
00:09:11.160 Are you actually on the wrong side of history?
00:09:14.500 I know that's tough.
00:09:15.820 No one wants to ask themselves that question, but it's time.
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00:11:33.220 Okay, I'm just going to warn you, this is disturbing.
00:11:36.120 I know that a lot of you watch Relatable, listen to Relatable with your kids, and just
00:11:41.840 know that the content that we're about to play is disturbing.
00:11:45.840 And maybe if they're mature enough, this can start some conversations that you can have.
00:11:49.920 But I just want you to be able to make the best decision.
00:11:52.440 But we have to be able to look evil in the eye and see what it really looks like and see,
00:11:58.040 gosh, how much this world really needs Jesus.
00:12:00.280 So here is that woman from earlier, the picture that you saw imitating Charlie Kirk being shot,
00:12:06.160 shot too.
00:12:06.580 So there's a lot of reporting about who this woman is.
00:12:16.360 Some people are saying that she is an elementary school teacher and a name is going around that
00:12:22.540 apparently matches her, but the school that has kind of been looped into this, that people are
00:12:29.060 saying that's the school where she teaches, they've said, no, this is not our employee.
00:12:34.960 And so because there seems to be some conflicting reports, I don't want to say the name that's
00:12:40.440 floating around.
00:12:41.040 Because what if it's not right?
00:12:42.420 And what if that school is being targeted and the name of that teacher is being used and
00:12:47.980 it's not her at all.
00:12:48.980 So I just don't want to accidentally do that.
00:12:51.140 This particular lady, though, like there is no mistaking what she was actually doing.
00:12:55.520 And that is evil.
00:12:56.560 And I just want to also be clear, like I support her actual identity being revealed.
00:13:02.580 And I do believe that she should lose her job.
00:13:05.380 Yes, there should be social consequences to being evil.
00:13:08.800 And as I've said before, that doesn't make me a radical.
00:13:11.940 That doesn't even make me anti-free speech.
00:13:14.360 It's not crazy for me to say, hey, if you are pro-assassination of your political enemies,
00:13:19.840 I don't want you teaching kids.
00:13:22.120 I don't want you talking as a therapist to someone in a vulnerable mental health crisis.
00:13:28.880 I don't want you taking care of old people in the old folks home.
00:13:32.740 Like, I don't want you to be the person giving anesthesia to the guy who's about to get surgery.
00:13:39.780 Like, I don't think you should be in a position of taking care of vulnerable people,
00:13:44.720 shaping their minds and like caring for their bodies.
00:13:48.020 You shouldn't.
00:13:48.720 Like, you should be as irrelevant to the human population as possible
00:13:54.340 without actually going to jail.
00:13:57.660 Because I don't want there to be legal consequences for, you know, actual speech.
00:14:02.940 But there should be social consequences.
00:14:05.160 And of course, where actual threats and, you know, incentivizing violence come in,
00:14:10.480 there is a legal component to that.
00:14:12.740 But there should be consequences for this kind of abject evil.
00:14:17.720 Okay, then we have this old lady.
00:14:20.200 And I have quite the commentary to say about this woman who,
00:14:25.120 I mean, this is the kind of woman that you would walk, you know,
00:14:28.080 you might run into her in the grocery store.
00:14:29.840 She would probably give her pleasantries and, you know, be very nice.
00:14:34.260 She looks normal.
00:14:35.220 She might be someone's grandmother.
00:14:37.400 And yet here she is saying that Charlie Kirk deserved to die
00:14:39.840 because he was basically Hitler, not one.
00:14:41.960 I have to ask this because people on the other side are going to say
00:14:45.040 that they feel like the Democrat Party has been mean recently
00:14:48.300 with Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
00:14:50.700 Charlie Kirk is a piece of garbage.
00:14:52.040 Of course we were mean.
00:14:53.060 I am so tired of people saying,
00:14:55.040 oh, but, you know, it's a terrible thing.
00:14:57.300 No, Hitler is dead.
00:14:58.960 But I'm glad Hitler's dead.
00:15:00.600 Evil people have no place in my world.
00:15:05.040 He was a hateful human being.
00:15:08.080 It was disgusting the things that he said and did.
00:15:11.140 I have, you know, I don't have time for that.
00:15:13.580 I'm sorry.
00:15:14.100 I have to point my energy in other directions.
00:15:16.340 You are such a pointless person.
00:15:20.300 You just, you really are.
00:15:22.340 You suck the energy and joy and purpose and goodness from every room you walk into and you know it.
00:15:28.340 And that is why you are seeking fulfillment from this pointless political protest
00:15:32.840 because you have probably actually been directing your energy into your profession,
00:15:37.020 into plants, into politics your entire life rather than into people,
00:15:41.080 which is why you are so incredibly miserable, okay?
00:15:45.700 Like I said, this could be someone's grandmother.
00:15:48.000 Probably not.
00:15:49.460 Probably not.
00:15:50.540 And this is actually a consequence of, like, the childlessness epidemic that we have in society,
00:15:56.720 that you have all of these just, like, listless people who don't know where to direct their energy.
00:16:02.900 And so we've talked about this before, this phenomenon, especially among older white women,
00:16:08.600 of misplaced mothering.
00:16:10.640 And because they are not channeling their God-given mothering instincts into people,
00:16:17.400 into their own children, into the next generation in some way,
00:16:23.020 they are channeling it in directions that are not actually healthy.
00:16:27.240 So they believe that they are mothering the migrant,
00:16:30.220 that they are mothering the criminal,
00:16:32.660 that they are mothering the people who are on the margins of society.
00:16:36.260 And so this makes them feel better.
00:16:38.700 But it's actually a lazy way to demonstrate that you're a good person,
00:16:43.200 which means you're not a good person at all.
00:16:44.840 In the same way that socialism is, like, outsourcing your compassion to the government.
00:16:51.040 Like, this is social justice is outsourcing your virtue to the government.
00:16:56.520 And that's what's going on here.
00:16:58.800 And just like a spoiler, if you are cheering on the assassination of someone that you disagreed with,
00:17:09.060 this husband and father, this evangelist, you are the evil person.
00:17:14.860 I just want you to know that.
00:17:16.440 Like, you are the evil person.
00:17:18.460 And that, by the way, just a tip, when someone says something like that,
00:17:22.320 oh, the evil that he said, the evil that he did,
00:17:24.380 that's when you ask, like, what?
00:17:25.440 Very simple question.
00:17:27.960 Two words.
00:17:29.460 And this can get any discussion or debate really going, or it can shut it down.
00:17:34.720 Like what?
00:17:36.520 And just, you don't have to try to step in and help them, because it'll be awkward.
00:17:41.100 You don't have to alleviate the tension.
00:17:43.940 You don't have to try to put words in their mouth when they start stammering and stuttering.
00:17:48.340 You just be quiet.
00:17:49.640 Like what?
00:17:51.500 And when they can't tell you specifics, that actually, it's not really just about humiliating
00:17:57.820 them.
00:17:58.720 It is also about helping them.
00:18:00.840 Because I can't tell you how often I have said, like what?
00:18:04.100 And that has actually planted a seed in that person's brain to start thinking about, wait,
00:18:09.600 hang on.
00:18:10.360 Why do I believe what I believe?
00:18:11.920 Why did I say that?
00:18:13.440 Wait, did I just repeat something that I've never really thought about before that I
00:18:17.000 couldn't verify?
00:18:18.160 So those two words, like what, can help you think through why you believe what you believe,
00:18:23.600 but also the person that you are opposing in that moment.
00:18:28.600 Okay.
00:18:29.280 Here are some more examples of things that were going on at these no kings protests over the
00:18:34.520 weekend.
00:18:35.040 Sot 3.
00:18:35.420 You get triggered because it has Charlie on there, right?
00:18:50.720 Because he was a racist, because he was a misogynist, and that means that you are too,
00:18:55.940 because you support him.
00:18:57.760 Get out!
00:18:58.760 Get out of here!
00:18:59.660 He hated people.
00:19:01.360 Yeah, just calm it down.
00:19:01.780 He hated anyone that wasn't white, that wasn't male, that wasn't straight.
00:19:07.260 He, Charlie, hated anyone that wasn't white, that wasn't male, that wasn't straight.
00:19:12.280 Okay.
00:19:13.040 Well, as someone who is not male, I can say that Charlie didn't hate me, didn't hate his
00:19:20.660 wife, didn't hate his daughter.
00:19:22.980 This person's wearing like a Ruth Bader Ginsburg shirt there.
00:19:26.480 These people are just, you have to understand, I'm not saying this to be rude.
00:19:30.720 These people in these videos are very, very unwell.
00:19:35.200 That is true.
00:19:36.280 But it's not just, I don't want it to say like mental health crisis, because I actually
00:19:40.580 think that's just an excuse for evil, because evil really exists.
00:19:45.400 And it's evil that can make you very stupid.
00:19:48.420 Sin makes you stupid.
00:19:50.140 And iniquity makes you insane.
00:19:52.260 We can use those alliterations.
00:19:53.980 And I'm not saying that's always the case, but very often that's the case.
00:19:58.860 I don't want to let these people off the hook just because they're probably on, you know,
00:20:02.420 three different SSRIs.
00:20:03.920 That doesn't excuse being a horrible person.
00:20:07.200 There are plenty of people who do actually struggle with mental health issues that are
00:20:11.760 not like this.
00:20:12.960 So those two things really do go hand in hand in this case.
00:20:16.780 And it's scary.
00:20:18.360 It's very scary when you think about it.
00:20:20.040 Um, okay, so a lot of these people are elderly, not the person we just saw in that video,
00:20:25.260 but definitely older baby boomer generation.
00:20:28.380 And I just want to know, like, what happened there?
00:20:32.340 Stop four.
00:20:32.720 Where are your grandkids?
00:20:57.780 Where are your grandkids?
00:20:58.720 It's certainly there's a soccer game that you should be at right now or something like
00:21:04.220 what happened to elderly people playing bridge.
00:21:07.680 My grandmother, God bless her soul and her later years.
00:21:13.460 She did a lot of Bible study.
00:21:16.620 She did a lot of roomie cube.
00:21:18.920 She loved to play bingo and go to the hair and the nail salon.
00:21:23.000 She loved to visit with us.
00:21:25.320 I mean, of course, if you are at an age where you can continue to work and you have that
00:21:31.340 strength, I think that's great.
00:21:32.680 But definitely your last year is should not be at this kind of completely empty protest.
00:21:41.160 I mean, if you can stand up for what is truly right, no matter what your age is, I think
00:21:45.520 that's a good thing here.
00:21:46.900 But this something that doesn't make any sense.
00:21:50.400 I don't think it's a good way to spend your time because truly the no kings protest by
00:21:58.180 people who would love a king, who love tyranny, who actually love dictatorships.
00:22:04.800 It just doesn't make any sense.
00:22:07.080 I mean, these are the very people who wanted to force kids to wear masks, who wanted you
00:22:11.880 to be fired from your job if you didn't get an experimental vaccine.
00:22:15.860 These are the very same people that support taking children out of their parents' homes
00:22:21.340 if their parents don't affirm the stated gender identity of a person who don't want
00:22:26.420 Christians to be able to adopt in places like Oregon or Washington or Illinois because they
00:22:32.320 won't affirm the potential gender identity of a future foster kid.
00:22:37.540 I mean, these are not made up scenarios.
00:22:39.800 These are stories that we have covered in specificity many times over the years.
00:22:43.580 They supported Joe Biden directing the USDA to remove paid student lunches from poor schools
00:22:50.660 that didn't abide by the rewrite of Title IX, which said, you have to allow boys into girls'
00:22:56.340 bathrooms or you don't get lunch for poor kids.
00:22:59.100 That's something that actually happened under Joe Biden.
00:23:01.640 Did any of these no kings protesters have anything to say about that?
00:23:06.120 COVID tyranny.
00:23:07.860 Medical tyranny.
00:23:09.360 Gender tyranny.
00:23:10.280 Over and over again, we have seen Democrats support more government overreach.
00:23:17.140 Lurching closer to socialism.
00:23:19.360 I mean, these very people who are demonstrating in places like New York City saying no kings are
00:23:24.640 about to elect Momdani, who is an out and out socialist, who does not believe in personal
00:23:32.320 freedoms, who does believe that the government should step in and curb our constitutional liberties
00:23:37.260 for the sake of equality and equity.
00:23:40.220 I mean, over and over again, we've seen this.
00:23:42.960 They support the forced redistribution of wealth and capital to those who are either impoverished
00:23:50.100 or those who have darker skin color than us in the name of equality.
00:23:53.920 These are the people who say no kings.
00:23:56.300 Like, you know which side the Democrats would have been on in 1776.
00:24:00.900 Like, you know, it wouldn't have been on the side of the republic.
00:24:05.300 You know, they would have been cheering on King George.
00:24:08.440 And the funny thing is, also, you have a lot of these people like dressed up as founders.
00:24:13.340 OK, well, the founders also wrote the Second Amendment.
00:24:16.540 Y'all completely disdain the Constitution, except when you think that it is a way to manipulate
00:24:23.580 the apolitical people who don't really know what's going on into opposing Donald Trump.
00:24:31.440 Like, it's just crazy to think these are the people that people like David French and Russell
00:24:37.720 Moore actually think are more right and more sophisticated and like more godly in a lot of
00:24:45.100 ways than the conservatives who support Donald Trump.
00:24:48.640 I mean, these people have been talking about, like, winsomeness and peace and constitutionality,
00:24:56.740 but they have nothing to say about the abject evil on their own side.
00:25:00.580 But they will, like, pick the most random people that they can find that are kind of associated
00:25:05.500 with the right and be like, this is representative of conservatism and MAGA Christianity.
00:25:11.800 I don't know.
00:25:13.640 Maybe the motives aren't so pure there.
00:25:16.720 And then we have another round of peaceful protesters.
00:25:20.460 We've got a, as you can see there, a piƱata.
00:25:23.280 We've got even kids, a piƱata of Trump, even kids hitting this piƱata, teaching kids to
00:25:30.720 hate their president and hate people.
00:25:35.900 And that violence is an answer if they disagree with someone.
00:25:39.860 That's great.
00:25:40.980 Exciting.
00:25:41.540 I'm glad that these are our future voters, future neighbors of our children.
00:25:46.960 That's awesome.
00:25:49.500 And then we also have these inflatable costumes.
00:25:51.980 It's also just, like, very cringe and silly.
00:25:55.440 Very cringe and silly.
00:25:57.420 And then we have this lovely guy, Sot6.
00:26:00.620 Okay, so that guy needs to be checked out by the authorities.
00:26:24.900 He says that he would kill Stephen Miller if he had a chance.
00:26:28.620 Stephen Miller has been so incredibly villainized by the left.
00:26:33.520 And I just want to know, truly, like, what is his horrible crime?
00:26:37.320 Is his horrible crime that he believes in deporting illegal aliens, especially violent ones?
00:26:43.020 Is his horrible crime that we should have borders and that he believes in the sovereignty
00:26:47.480 of our nation?
00:26:48.420 Again, like, 99% of human history has believed about nations.
00:26:52.720 Like, what is it?
00:26:55.020 Is that he's kind of, like, mean sometimes or he says some things that are kind of, like,
00:27:01.540 harsh?
00:27:02.340 Like, what is it?
00:27:03.320 Because I don't care about that.
00:27:04.900 And I have been in interviews, like, baited into trying to criticize and, like, distance
00:27:10.640 conservatism from Stephen Miller.
00:27:12.540 And I'm just, like, not falling for that.
00:27:15.440 Like, why is he elevated as the worst guy ever just because he is 100% right on immigration
00:27:22.520 policy?
00:27:23.800 I just want to know.
00:27:24.620 Like, I love people that hate evil.
00:27:29.100 Like, I really support people that are angry about evil.
00:27:33.780 And I'm not talking about every single illegal immigrant being a criminal gang member.
00:27:40.360 But that is who he has his sights set on.
00:27:44.040 And he also, and he's shared this, that he was texting with Charlie before Charlie died.
00:27:48.440 Like, he is intent upon, like, breaking up these left-wing radical cells of domestic terrorists.
00:27:55.640 And I support people who oppose evil.
00:27:59.060 And Stephen Miller, to me, seems to be very opposed to evil.
00:28:03.340 But, of course, when you have people like this who are just so dead morally, like, evil
00:28:09.580 is good and good is evil to them.
00:28:11.740 Like, you are the bad guy.
00:28:13.900 You are the bad guy, dude.
00:28:15.960 Very, I mean, very scary.
00:28:17.460 There's an upside to this and a downside to this.
00:28:20.100 Like, all of this stuff.
00:28:21.760 The upside, well, let me start with the downside.
00:28:24.740 The downside is that you are really, literally risking your life when you hold and say common
00:28:30.560 sense positions, like, our nation should have borders.
00:28:33.700 So that's not good.
00:28:34.800 But then the upside is that the normal person doesn't want to be associated with people like
00:28:40.820 this.
00:28:42.620 Normies watch something like this, and at the very best, it's extremely dorky.
00:28:48.680 At the very worst, it is so violent and ugly and extreme that most people, even if they would
00:28:56.620 be sympathetic to the progressive side, are like, well, I don't want to go there.
00:28:59.960 And that has been a huge shift in the past few years.
00:29:04.620 Like, this is, I hope Republicans have a strategy, even more of a strategy to get the suburban
00:29:09.600 mom, because the average suburban mom looks at something like that and it's like, I don't
00:29:14.040 want to sound like that.
00:29:14.960 I don't want to look like that.
00:29:15.940 And I don't want to smell like that.
00:29:17.480 So most normie people are just naturally, like, repulsed by the movement represented by what
00:29:25.200 we see here.
00:29:27.120 And so there has to be a better alternative.
00:29:31.000 However, really, it's just going to be, I think, leaning to the right by default.
00:29:35.200 So downside and upside to all of this.
00:29:38.160 All right.
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00:30:59.120 According to Blaze Media, left-wing billionaire George Soros has been funding foundations
00:31:09.360 that financially support the No Kings protest against Donald Trump.
00:31:13.280 That should be no surprise.
00:31:14.920 Every left-wing activist group basically is funded by the Open Society, which is George
00:31:20.340 Soros' foundation.
00:31:21.500 Fox News says that Soros' Open Society Action Fund gave a $3 million grant to an organization
00:31:30.240 named Indivisible.
00:31:32.080 Indivisible.
00:31:33.500 So ironic.
00:31:34.520 Like every progressive euphemism, it actually means the opposite of what they say.
00:31:39.320 They're extremely divisive.
00:31:41.380 And they are behind many of these No Kings protests.
00:31:45.040 The website for the Open Society Foundation described the two-year grant as supporting the
00:31:48.900 group's social welfare activities.
00:31:52.400 Again, another euphemism.
00:31:54.120 They are not for the welfare, the well-being of society.
00:31:57.920 The Fox News report found that Open Society Foundations had granted more than $7.61 million
00:32:03.300 to another organization that's also part of orchestrating the protests.
00:32:08.660 It is also worth pointing out that the protesters are marching against Donald Trump, who has only
00:32:15.200 served for four years and nine months.
00:32:17.480 But the Democrat politicians that they support unwaveringly have been serving for a very long
00:32:23.420 time.
00:32:23.820 Chuck Schumer, 45 years in Congress.
00:32:25.740 Nancy Pelosi, 42 years.
00:32:28.660 Longer than we've been alive.
00:32:30.420 My goodness.
00:32:31.360 Elizabeth Warren, 15 years in Congress.
00:32:33.580 Bernie Sanders, 34 years in Congress.
00:32:36.160 Dick Durbin, 43 years in Congress.
00:32:38.320 I feel like Elizabeth Warren has been in Congress a lot longer than 15 years.
00:32:41.920 Anyway, and so these people who have been grabbing for power, who oppose the Constitution, especially
00:32:51.060 when it comes to religious liberty, especially when it comes to the Second Amendment, these
00:32:55.760 people aren't being protested against.
00:32:57.580 But the guy who supports your Second Amendment rights, who supports your free speech rights,
00:33:02.060 who has been a champion for religious liberty, who is allowing you to demonstrate and protest
00:33:06.880 and criticize and joke about killing him and assaulting him, that guy is the dictator.
00:33:12.580 That guy is the source of all of our problems.
00:33:15.820 Like, just an FYI, kings don't allow you to protest against them.
00:33:20.160 Tyrannical kings don't allow you to criticize them.
00:33:27.220 Tyrannical kings don't allow you to organize billion-dollar demonstrations against their rule.
00:33:35.680 Tyrannical kings don't allow you to keep in bare arms.
00:33:41.700 They don't allow free speech.
00:33:43.220 They don't allow your individual rights.
00:33:45.340 They don't allow states' rights.
00:33:47.320 Like, that's not what's going on here.
00:33:49.420 What's going on is that we finally have a president who actually cares about our country,
00:33:53.560 cares about our borders, cares about our sovereignty, and cares about basic safety in once great
00:33:59.040 American cities.
00:34:00.320 That's the crime that he is committing here.
00:34:03.360 It's just insane.
00:34:04.700 So, Speaker Mike Johnson highlighted the ridiculousness of No King's Day.
00:34:09.460 He said this, SOT 7.
00:34:10.820 I was a First Amendment lawyer for 20 years.
00:34:12.720 We defend that right.
00:34:13.960 But the irony of the message is pretty clear for everyone.
00:34:16.760 If President Trump was a king, the government would be open right now.
00:34:19.920 If President Trump was a king, they would not have been able to engage in that free speech
00:34:23.160 exercise out on the mall, by the way, which was open because President Trump hasn't closed it.
00:34:27.420 In the last shutdown, 2013 era, President Obama closed the National Mall.
00:34:33.180 It closed all the national parks, didn't allow people to engage in all this.
00:34:36.080 So, I mean, they needed a stunt.
00:34:38.160 They needed a show.
00:34:39.600 Chuck Schumer needs cover right now.
00:34:41.360 He's closed the government down because he needs political cover, and this was a part of it.
00:34:44.620 So, yep, it is absolutely absurd, and I'm sad that people have been caught up in this ridiculous
00:34:52.200 propaganda and rhetoric.
00:34:53.620 Like, this is, like, soul-stealing stuff, like, soul-sucking stuff.
00:34:59.580 You know, when people go down the Blue Anon rabbit hole, I mean, they really just become
00:35:05.960 obsessive, and I know it can feel hard to talk to them, especially the people in your life,
00:35:11.300 but remember, your job is just to plant a seed.
00:35:14.480 Plant a seed, love them.
00:35:16.040 Plant a seed, love them.
00:35:17.260 Your job isn't to win every debate or to win every argument.
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00:35:23.100 And a lot of you are still, you know, you might be here for the first time because of
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00:36:12.860 to win people over from the world.
00:36:14.520 Well, Charlie Kirk proved that that wasn't true, but I hope that if you get something
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00:36:24.560 can connect without conceding and that you don't actually have to betray your values when
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00:37:57.000 All right. Speaking of defending our beliefs, we need to go to the other side of the world
00:38:07.320 to Nigeria, where there's a very different kind of persecution that is going on there
00:38:13.520 to the Christians, for the Christians. And as happens in many countries, but especially
00:38:19.820 in Africa, the radical Islamists target Christians in particular, they target churches, they target
00:38:27.880 worship gatherings, and they slaughter men, women, and children, enslave them, try to get
00:38:34.460 them to convert at gunpoint. And so while the craziness and the chaos is going on over here,
00:38:40.900 let us not forget that we have Christians around the world, in Nigeria and elsewhere, actually
00:38:46.800 being slaughtered for their faith. So Nigeria is one of the most dangerous countries for
00:38:52.160 Christians. They face severe violence. The government totally denies it. They deny that
00:38:57.860 it's religiously motivated. But videos, articles, statistics about attacks on Christians have
00:39:02.540 gone viral, prompting global attention. And here we have a Nigerian pastor calling on President
00:39:08.900 Trump for help, Saud 8. Look at it here on ground. Special advisor to Trump. Now, please tell Trump
00:39:18.840 to save our life in Nigeria. He has been building to settle peace between Israel and also Hamas. Now,
00:39:33.100 I'm calling his attention. I'm calling his attention to Nigeria. They are killing Christians in Nigeria.
00:39:40.040 Massacre Christians. If they say they kill Muslims, these Muslims are being killed. By who? By Muslims?
00:39:50.660 Wow. I mean, you can just tell how devastating he is. And if you're just listening to this,
00:39:55.000 he is conducting a mass burial for 13 victims. And we covered up the bodies there. They were killed
00:39:59.960 overnight on Tuesday, October 14th. And he's also like urging his neighbors to arm themselves to
00:40:06.920 defend themselves. And of course, it is President Trump's top priority to put the safety and security
00:40:13.720 and well-being of Americans first because he is the leader of America. And that is every government's
00:40:20.300 righteous responsibility to put the well-being of their people first. And I think that we can and
00:40:26.900 should be America first and also as Christians have a vested interest in the persecuted body of
00:40:34.220 Christ. And if there is a way for us to help, and if there is a way for us to stop this injustice
00:40:42.080 while also prioritizing the needs and safety and well-being of Americans, then of course,
00:40:47.620 I think that we as Christians should advocate that our government does do something because
00:40:53.060 my heart breaks for these children and for, gosh, these people who have been terrorized for so long.
00:41:01.300 So here's what's going on. This is according to Open Doors. Over 7,000 Christians were killed in
00:41:07.500 Nigeria in the first seven months of 2025, according to InterSociety. Between 2009 and 2023, at least
00:41:14.760 52,000 Christians killed, 18,500 abducted, most of them probably dead. Over 20,000 churches and Christian
00:41:21.880 schools attacked. From October 2022 to September 2023, 82% of Christians killed globally died
00:41:29.860 in Nigeria. My goodness, think about that. According to Open Doors, a U.S. group tracking and persecution,
00:41:37.860 Christians are 6.5 times more likely to be killed and 5.1 times more likely to be abducted than Muslims
00:41:44.700 in northern Nigeria. Of course, if you need to know just the innate ideological violent problems with
00:41:54.360 Islam, you need to go back and you need to watch or listen to Friday's episode, okay? This is not just
00:41:58.880 like, oh yeah, wow, this is just an aberration. This is just an exception. While this doesn't happen
00:42:04.680 everywhere, there's actually an ideological reason why it happens in some places and not others. And it's
00:42:10.100 not because it's possible to have like a modern form of Islam. It is there innately in its books.
00:42:20.760 Kidnapping is a major issue. It actually helps empower Islam. Over 20,000 abductions from 2019 to 2023.
00:42:30.760 They target Christians because there are higher ransoms that they can put on the head of a Christian.
00:42:37.960 And they know that these Christian organizations will work to try to free these victims. And so this
00:42:47.700 actually helps fund, it's such a double-edged sword, it helps fund the Islamic regime there.
00:42:53.560 Survivors report brutal treatment by Boko Haram and ISIS West Africa, including torture and pressure to
00:42:59.520 convert to Islam. Radical Islamist violence is spreading beyond Nigeria to countries like Sudan,
00:43:04.620 Afghanistan, the Congo, Mozambique. Nigeria's population of 242 million is split between Muslims
00:43:14.320 and Christians. And so that just tells you so much about the difference between Islam and Christianity.
00:43:20.420 There are a ton of Christians in Nigeria. It's not that they're this tiny population, but then you have
00:43:26.500 an ideology that is motivated by violence and power and motivated by invasion and motivated by forced
00:43:34.740 conversion. And then you have an ideology that is motivated by love and peace and evangelism and
00:43:41.800 making the world around them better. And obviously, right now, those are the people being targeted.
00:43:48.160 And that's how it always is. That's how it always is. Even the Crusades, the history that we hear now
00:43:52.980 about the Crusades, that Christians were just randomly attacking Muslims and did all these
00:43:57.280 terrible things, that's not even true. That was even defense and pushing back against darkness. And so
00:44:02.800 it just shows you the dichotomy, the good versus evil going on here, and the fact that we've reached
00:44:08.660 this morally relativistic place that tells us that Islam is this religion of peace and that we should
00:44:14.680 just invite them into the West to basically colonize American cities. It's just literally insane.
00:44:20.560 It's so wrong and it is so unloving to our neighbors to believe that and to allow that. It's evil
00:44:28.200 immigration policy that has allowed that over the past 20 years. I saw a horrible video of a woman
00:44:33.540 who she was telling this story and her two children were slaughtered in front of her, three years old,
00:44:40.920 10 months old, and her husband. She was kidnapped along with another family member, but she was punished by
00:44:47.940 her hand being chopped off. And you could see in the video that she just had a nub of an arm because
00:44:54.180 these Islamic groups kidnapped her and tortured her. There has been some U.S. involvement. There
00:45:01.540 was a White House meeting in 2018 between Trump and the Nigerian president, and Trump expressed deep
00:45:09.920 concern over the attacks. He said, we have had a very serious problem with Christians who are being
00:45:15.240 murdered in Nigeria. We are going to be working on that problem very, very hard because we can't
00:45:19.780 allow that to happen. And obviously, I think that's a very good thing. Senator Ted Cruz called this out
00:45:25.960 just a couple weeks ago. He said, officials in Nigeria are ignoring and even facilitating the mass
00:45:32.280 murder of Christians by Islamist jihadists. It's time to hold those responsible accountable. My Nigeria
00:45:37.860 Religious Freedom Accountability Act would target these officials with powerful sanctions and other tools.
00:45:44.120 If we've learned anything in this episode, it's that evil actually exists. Evil really exists. Darkness
00:45:50.560 exists. Not every religion is the same. Not every idea is the same. There is real objective morality out
00:45:58.460 there, and ideas have consequences. Moral relativism has consequences. It's led to really bad foreign policy,
00:46:05.680 domestic policy, and immigration policy. If you want to know more about the consequences of
00:46:11.320 quote-unquote compassionate progressive immigration policy, I really do encourage you to read my book.
00:46:17.280 I'm not even just trying to sell it. You can borrow it from a friend. You can go to the library. It's
00:46:21.040 there. And at the very least, read the immigration chapter of my book. It was one of the most gut-wrenching
00:46:28.080 ones for me to write, and I think actually one of the most persuasive chapters because I became so
00:46:34.320 passionate about it as I was researching and writing that chapter very unexpectedly, I learned a lot
00:46:39.860 while writing it. So I know you will too by reading it. These people who are advocating for open borders
00:46:46.660 and to stop deportations, you do not love your neighbor. You don't. You are actually putting them
00:46:52.260 in harm's way because the consequences of bad immigration policy aren't affecting you.
00:46:57.460 Um, and unfortunately, we also see the consequence of the dereliction of duty of governments. When
00:47:05.560 Nigeria doesn't put its people first and doesn't enact peace through strength, this is what you get.
00:47:11.920 You get Christians being slaughtered. So let us remember our persecuted brothers and sisters. That
00:47:17.680 is something that we are commanded to do, that as Christians, first and foremost, our allegiance is to
00:47:23.420 the kingdom of heaven. First and foremost, our allegiance is to the body of Christ. And we have
00:47:29.540 more in common eternally with our brothers and sisters in Christ in Nigeria than we have with
00:47:36.580 our atheist neighbor who shares our political leanings, who shares our American culture, who looks
00:47:42.080 like us, who sounds like us. We have more eternally and profoundly in common with Christians across the
00:47:48.340 world who are being persecuted and slaughtered for their faith. So let us pray for them.
00:47:53.420 Let us be with them. And we'll, we're not done talking about this. We're going to be talking to
00:47:58.440 people who have firsthand knowledge of what's going on there. And we'll talk more about what we can do
00:48:02.920 to help. But for now, pray, pray without ceasing. And remember that the prayer of a righteous person
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00:49:20.680 firm. Well, speaking of objective evil, I have to talk about this. You've probably heard about
00:49:30.560 this, but this story about this attorney general candidate in the state of Virginia named Jay
00:49:38.840 Jones. Democrats are facing criticism right now because they are not demanding that this guy pull out
00:49:45.920 of the race because of texts that were revealed from 2022 in which he fantasized about killing his
00:49:55.620 Republican colleague. He wrote a text, this guy named Jay Jones, in 2022 about putting two bullets into
00:50:03.920 the head of then-Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert and also mentioned murdering Gilbert's
00:50:09.860 children. So he said this, and we'll put up the screenshots of the text, three people, two bullets,
00:50:15.100 Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head and later added that Gilbert
00:50:21.140 would receive both bullets every time in a hypothetical scenario. And this other person seems to be
00:50:28.520 concerned about this. You were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die. So Jennifer
00:50:36.600 Gilbert, I guess, is the wife of Todd Gilbert. And then she said, this person who Jay Jones is texting
00:50:45.420 with really just gets him to say, like, did you really mean that, that you wanted these people to
00:50:50.360 die? And he says, I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding little fascists?
00:50:56.780 Yes. So again, these are not just like random people that I'm cherry picking here. This is someone who is
00:51:04.420 running for a very high office, the law enforcement office in the state of Virginia, who says that he is
00:51:11.820 out to protect your children. He believes that the children of people who disagree with him will or
00:51:18.520 should die and should be murdered and should die bleeding in the arms of their parents. Virginia,
00:51:25.600 I know you went blue for the election, which was very sad. And I know that you've been a swing state
00:51:34.020 for a long time, but can you do better than this? Can you do better than this? And then Republicans
00:51:40.240 have been put on the spot about these texts between young Republicans, I think in the state of New York,
00:51:47.360 but it was leaked by Politico reported on and all of these Republican politicians and Republican
00:51:54.120 commentators are being put on the spot to condemn these kids as if that is equivalent. It's not
00:52:00.120 equivalent. Like these were kids talking about stupid stuff. Some of the things were completely
00:52:06.420 decontextualized and sarcastic. It's not the same at all. Even if they weren't, you can say,
00:52:13.640 obviously, yeah, they shouldn't be saying stuff like that, but that has no, that has no impact on
00:52:19.960 anyone. That has no influence on anyone. We are talking about a Democrat politician who is wanting
00:52:28.600 people to die, who was wanting children to be dead. Like it's not even a comparison. The two things and
00:52:35.840 the fact that Republicans are speaking up and condemning the leaked private messages of a bunch
00:52:42.600 of young Republicans, but you cannot get a Democrat to say that this guy should pull out of the race.
00:52:48.580 That's crazy. Here's thought 10.
00:52:52.480 Ms. Bamberger, I understand what you're saying about the voters, but for you yourself, do you
00:52:56.040 still continue to endorse Jay Jones? 15 seconds. Yes or no?
00:53:00.500 I, we are all running our individual races. I believe my opponent has said that about her
00:53:05.260 lieutenant governor nominee. And it asks you every person to make their own decision. I am running my
00:53:11.840 race to serve Virginia. And that is what I intend to do.
00:53:15.740 Thank you, Ms. Bamberger. Uh, we just want to clarify, you know, what you're saying is that
00:53:22.320 as of now, you still endorse Jay Jones as attorney general.
00:53:26.520 I'm saying as of now, it's up to every voter to make their own individual decision. I am running
00:53:31.140 for governor. I am accountable for the words that I say for the acts that I take for the policies that
00:53:37.900 I have put out. Weak. Weak. So weak. Also, I just want to like, I just want to say this to women. I
00:53:47.660 know that when you're in a role of like running for a political office, you want to seem strong and all
00:53:52.700 of that. Never stand with your feet wider than your hips. Okay. That just looks silly. It looks
00:53:57.440 like you're trying to project strength, but actually you came across as very weak because of the words
00:54:01.800 that you said there and you look silly. And by the way, like, I think that winsome Sears is amazing.
00:54:09.060 And I really hope that she wins this race. Come on, Virginia. You can do better than that. Even if
00:54:14.900 you don't like Republicans, surely you can do better than that. But again, I just want you to know
00:54:21.180 that within progressive ideology is violence. Okay. It is at the heart of progressive ideology. It's not
00:54:28.400 a bug. Like it is a feature of progressive ideology. I'm not saying that you as a progressive
00:54:33.520 out there, that you are necessarily violent or that your friends are violent, but just look
00:54:39.420 throughout human history. Look at the 20th century, every left wing movement in particular, every
00:54:45.200 collectivist totalitarian movement, whether it's fascist or whether it's communist or whether it's
00:54:50.700 socialist, of course, is deadly. But if you look at the deadliest movements of the 20th century,
00:54:56.760 socialism, communism, in China, Vietnam, North Korea, I mean, everywhere that left wing collectivism
00:55:08.280 was established, millions and millions of people were slaughtered. Okay. It is a part of it. It's
00:55:16.440 been a part of it from its beginnings. Marxism has always operated this way. So you can just leave
00:55:22.100 like, you can just evaluate your worldview and decide, yeah, this is not something I want to be
00:55:27.100 a part of. That would be the smart evaluation to make. Evil really does exist. And the kingdom of
00:55:34.660 heaven is not Republican. It's not red or blue. That's not the argument. It's just to say that good
00:55:41.440 and evil exists. And one party happens to celebrate evil more than the other. That's just a fact.
00:55:47.220 All right. I do just want to close on this last thing. And that is, uh, Trump's moves on IVF. We've
00:55:55.000 talked about this before and how I think he goes in the wrong direction when it comes to supporting
00:56:00.420 IVF. And so I just want to talk about that, but let me tell you about our last sponsor first,
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00:56:17.740 um, in order to see the life of their child on the ultrasound screen. And they can see that that
00:56:24.680 is not just a clump of cells, but that is a person made in the image of God. And they're so much more
00:56:30.160 likely to choose life, but they need to be told the truth. You know, the abortion lobby and Planned
00:56:35.080 Parenthood, they're lying to these women and they're telling women that this doesn't really matter.
00:56:39.200 You're just terminating a pregnancy. They use all kinds of euphemisms to try to mask what is really
00:56:44.220 going on. And that is the intentional killing of a child, their child. So if you want women to know
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00:57:11.900 lives. That's pre-born.com slash Allie. This is according to the White House and the Associated
00:57:22.240 Press. President Donald Trump announced initiatives to expand access to in vitro fertilization and reduce
00:57:27.300 associated costs. Each cycle of IVF can cost $12,000 to $25,000 and often multiple cycles are required to
00:57:34.120 achieve a pregnancy. Trump said, we want to make it easier for all couples to have babies.
00:57:38.980 Sotnang. In the Trump administration, we want to make it easier for all couples to have babies,
00:57:45.620 raise children, and so the families have always dreamed about. That's why today I'm pleased to
00:57:51.480 announce that after extensive negotiations, EMD Serrano, the largest fertility drug manufacturer
00:57:58.480 in the world has agreed to provide massive discounts to all fertility drugs they sell in
00:58:04.040 the United States, including the most popular drug of all, the IVF drug, Gonal F. So it's Gonal F.
00:58:14.040 Okay, I'm sorry. I was just laughing at how he says things. Dr. Mehmet Oz, he is the head of the
00:58:22.020 Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. He said there's going to be a lot of Trump babies. I think
00:58:25.840 that's a good thing. You do see Republican from Alabama, Katie Britt, sitting there behind him,
00:58:31.800 and she has sponsored legislation in the past that is very pro-IVF. And Trump says that he's unaware
00:58:40.560 of conservative religious objections to IVF, but IVF is inherently pro-life. And I'll just say it
00:58:46.960 doesn't surprise me at all that Trump has this position. IVF is extremely popular even among
00:58:51.380 Republicans. And he represents the position that a lot of people have. I assume probably Senator Katie
00:58:56.720 Britt has as well, that we should be wanting more babies. Obviously we're facing a fertility crisis
00:59:01.400 and everyone who wants to have a baby should be able to have a baby and they shouldn't be inhibited
00:59:06.100 by the cost of IVF. But let me just explain something. The pro-life position is not just more
00:59:12.660 babies. We want more babies. We want more babies that are conceived in loving marriages between a
00:59:18.600 man and a woman. Being pro-life doesn't mean that we are pro every form of conception. Obviously we can
00:59:26.040 agree, right? That not every form of conception is moral and ethical, even though the baby itself is
00:59:31.620 a blessing. Like we understand that conception via rape is not moral. Like we understand that that
00:59:38.140 kind of conception or that the act of rape is not ethical. Like we believe that, right? We don't
00:59:46.760 support that. Even if that results in the baby, we would not support that kind of conception.
00:59:52.360 Now people say, oh, are you comparing IVF and rape? Well, no, no, no. Listen to the logic. Listen to the
00:59:58.260 principle of what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's the same thing. I am saying that we can agree that we
01:00:03.420 should not support every act that may lead to conception. As Christians, obviously we don't
01:00:10.020 believe in premarital sex. We believe that that baby is a blessing should he or she be produced
01:00:15.800 in that union, but we are still against that act that may lead to conception. So it's not,
01:00:22.800 we want more babies at whatever the cost. There are moral limitations to that. There should be moral
01:00:28.340 limitations to that. And not just because we're prudes, but because we care about the well-being of
01:00:32.660 children. And there is a cost to IVF. In fact, most babies, most embryos that are made via IVF,
01:00:41.300 the vast majority of those embryos will never be transferred and will never make it to a live birth.
01:00:47.940 In fact, the IVF industry kills more babies every year than the abortion industry does.
01:00:53.240 Because if we really believe in our pro-life ethics, that a life is a life, no matter how small,
01:00:59.460 that human life starts at conception, then how we treat those embryos that are created in a lab
01:01:06.120 that are frozen indefinitely, that are very often eugenically discarded because they're the wrong
01:01:12.120 gender, or they have Down syndrome, or they have some other kind of disability, or they were just that
01:01:18.500 unlucky extra guy that was created and their parents don't want them anymore. All of that really
01:01:25.440 matters. It's not only about not killing a baby inside the womb. It's about not discarding and
01:01:33.400 mistreating life that has been created. Those embryos are people made in the image of God.
01:01:39.900 They are in a stage of life that all of us have been in, that every single human that exists has been
01:01:45.440 in. And just because they are in a lab doesn't make them less alive and doesn't make them less valuable.
01:01:51.360 And so no, we are not pro-baby whatever the cost. Remember, when technology takes us from what is
01:01:58.560 natural to what is possible, we have to ask, but is that ethical? Is that moral? And especially as
01:02:05.920 Christians, is that biblical? The moral cost, the ethical cost, the human cost to IVF outweighs the
01:02:14.980 benefits. All people made through IVF are made in God's image and are just as valuable and worthy
01:02:21.840 as you and me. Parents who have children via IVF love their children. I understand that. I know that.
01:02:31.060 And yet we have to hold these two thoughts at the same time in our minds. And we started talking about
01:02:36.620 IVF on this show far before it was a topic of conversation on the right. We started talking about
01:02:42.400 it probably in 2019, I believe, was our first episode on it. It might've been early 2020.
01:02:48.980 And since then, we've talked about it a lot. And I thank God that more and more people on the right
01:02:53.620 talk about it now and what a problem ethically it is and how it's bad for women too, by the way,
01:03:00.220 terrible for women's health. And I think it is our job to try to move Trump on this and move
01:03:06.520 Republicans on this, that this has to be a big deal for us if we're going to put children first,
01:03:11.640 not just in the pro-life conversation, but also in the reproductive technology conversation.
01:03:16.480 You can listen to my episodes with Katie Faust, also Jennifer Lawl. We've talked about this a lot
01:03:21.600 over the years. And if I haven't convinced you in this short segment, hopefully one of the episodes
01:03:26.480 over the years that I've done on this can, because we've talked about this very thoroughly.
01:03:31.920 Again, good and evil really do exist. Right and wrong really do exist. And the Christian
01:03:38.040 position on these things is unpopular, not just on the left, but sometimes on the right.
01:03:43.660 But these little lives and honoring God's design, like these things are, they're worth it.
01:03:49.440 All right. That's all we've got time for today. We will be back here on Wednesday.
01:03:52.740 We'll be back here on Wednesday.
01:04:22.740 Bye.