Ep 175 | LGBTQ Town Hall Disaster
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In this episode, we talk about the LGBTQ town hall debate and what the Democratic Party has to say about same-sex marriage. We also discuss the impact of the Supreme Court's Obergefell ruling in 2015, and what it means for Christians who believe in the Bible s definition of marriage as between a man and a woman.
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hey guys welcome to relatable i hope that you guys are having a great week happy wednesday today we
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are going to talk about the lgbtq town hall i know that we're like a week late but we're going to
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talk about what the democrats think of people who believe in the bible's definition of marriage
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which is an exclusive relationship between one man and one woman if you're curious about that
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subject and why christians believe marriage is between one man and one woman you can go back
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to an episode titled biblical marriage and i explain from a biblical perspective why that is
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the case why god set it up that way and why it is so important and foundational to our faith i know
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that we are talking about this um just a little bit late it's been covered by a lot of different
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people but it is still circulating in the media and for good reason the reason is this this is where
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conservatives have said that the left is going for a long time when it comes to not just condescension
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of people with traditional values but legal restriction of people and organizations
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with traditional values we have seen the writing on the wall since the obergefell decision in 2015
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claiming that same-sex marriage is a human right um we have been able to see that soon our religious
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liberty will be at stake in light of that decision uh and we were right okay so like i said christians
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and people of traditional values that have all kinds of religions but typically it's evangelical
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christians who are kind of in the crosshairs of this kind of conversation uh we've been saying for
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a long time okay our religious liberty is at stake if we view same-sex marriage as a fundamental right
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churches will not long be able to exercise their freedom of religion or there will be some tension
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between freedom of religious expression our first amendment rights and the right of same-sex couples
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to get married we have seen that tension uh a lot over the past few years and uh there was a line
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by presidential candidate beto o'rourke that really just brought it home do you think religious
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institutions uh like colleges churches charities should they lose their tax-exempt status if they
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oppose same-sex marriage yes there can be no reward no benefit no tax break for anyone or any institution
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any organization in america that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every
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single one of us and so as president we're going to make that a priority and we are going to stop
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those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow americans so this means that churches
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synagogues mosques religious non-profits would lose tax exemption status which they currently enjoy
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if they oppose same-sex marriage and he doesn't say uh discriminate against uh a gay couple or gay
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people in hiring which also religious organizations are allowed to do but to um but just oppose same-sex
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marriage in general so what does oppose actually mean does that mean uh that a church couldn't preach
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against homosexuality does that mean refuse to perform same-sex weddings uh what does that mean
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and how are they planning to accomplish it constitutionally uh since obergefell like i was saying earlier
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christians have been asking how will this decision affect religious liberty which is not by definition just
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a christian or a conservative value but a constitutional right if same-sex marriage
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according to the court in 2015 is also now a right uh which one is going to have to give way when the
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two come in conflict how will churches and religious organizations be able to legally avoid embracing it
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uh the dissent in obergefell 2015 brought up these exact concerns these are not new concerns that people
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are having the dissent knew that this was coming uh it probably has come more quickly than they thought
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that it was going to it's only been four years since this decision um and they knew back then that this
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battle was ahead so this is what chief justice john roberts wrote in his dissent in obergefell
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hard questions arrive when people arise when people of faith exercise religion in ways that may seem to be seen
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in conflict with a new right to same-sex marriage when for example a religious college provides married
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student housing only to opposite-sex married couples or religious adoption agency declines to place children
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with same-sex married couples indeed the solicitor general candidly acknowledged that the tax exemptions of
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some religious institutions would be in question if they oppose same-sex marriage um there is little doubt that
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these and similar questions will soon be before this court unfortunately he says people of faith can take no
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comfort in the treatment they receive from the majority today clarence thomas then said this in his dissent
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in our society marriage is not simply a governmental institution it is a religious institution as well today's
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decision uh might change the former but it cannot change the latter it appears all but inevitable that the two will
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come into conflict particularly as individuals and churches are confronted with demands to participate in
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and endorse civil marriages between same-sex couples this is the problem with the government getting involved in
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marriage at all um it was not originally a civil agreement marriage was a religious covenant it was a religious
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uh association it was defined by the bible this is not something that is supposed to be defined by the
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uh no matter where you stand though on same-sex marriage obergefell was a horribly decided case no
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matter where you stand on it uh thomas articulates one of the reasons why i had the majority allowed the
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definition of marriage to be left to the political process as the constitution requires the people could
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have considered their religious liberty implications of deviating from the traditional definition as part of
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their deliberative process instead the majority's decision short circuits that process with potentially
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ruinous consequences for religious liberty and still the left said in 2015 oh calm down you religious
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archaic christian bigots no one is bothering you this has nothing to do with you if you don't want gay
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people to get married then just don't be gay yourself this doesn't affect you at all your precious
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liberty is fine it has taken four years four years that's a short amount of time only four years for a
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democratic candidate for the president of the united states to say outright that yes if a religious
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organization opposes same-sex marriage just opposes it they will no longer have tax exemption status which
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means effectively the organization is going to be punished punished by the government for not aligning
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with its definition of marriage which of course is unconstitutional this is what they hope to do
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um this is a a definition of marriage by the way that is only i've said this a few times now that is
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only four years old this new definition as between a man and a man or a woman or a woman of marriage
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is four years old as uh as opposed to the traditional definition of marriage which is thousands of years
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old if christians who have held the same orthodox beliefs about marriage for millennia are being told that
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if you don't right now hop onto this train of progressivism which less than five years ago
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redefined marriage as something that it has never been defined as then you are in trouble
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and lest you think this is just crazy bedo uh yelling into the wind remember remember that the equality act
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which is the democrats darling legislation that will not pass through the republican-controlled senate
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right now but is going to be uh it's going to be held on to it's going to be pushed until it is
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passed i guarantee you um in the years to come basically affirms the direction that bedo is headed
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episode 115 covers the equality act in full but let me remind you what the equality act actually does
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it makes irrelevant any religious or conscience exemptions for doctors um under this bill a doctor is
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required to perform same sex uh or same sex sex change surgery and provide hormone therapy even
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to children uh now they can maybe find protection under the free exercise arguments or other conscience
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objection legislation but that's really unsure under the equality act uh religious schools would be
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regulated under this act even if they take no funding from the federal government meaning they could
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not choose to uh not hire or fire a teacher for example who is in a gay relationship or who was
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transitioning you might not agree what these religious schools views but christian schools
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operate under the bible and the bible is clear about marriage and gender and so by regulating them by the
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government regulating them you are forcing them to ignore and condone uh what the bible says is sin
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that is the opposite of religious liberty that is tyranny you can see that whether you're a christian or not
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uh there is a supreme court case employment division versus smith that held that religious dissenter
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are subject to are uh subject to generally applicable laws which means under the equality act there would
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be very little uh some but very little recourse uh for religious people who object to these laws
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also under the equality act athletic teams would be forced to allow transgender boys and girls
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to compete on athletic teams that correspond with their gender identity rather than their biological sex
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the law actually says that individuals cannot be denied access to a locker room or dressing room
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no matter their gender or their gender identity the act also says that sexual orientation and gender
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identity are protected classes of people as race and sex already are the supreme court is currently
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deliberating on a case that would make sexual orientation and gender identity protected classes
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um this likely means that private places of employment and religious organizations and religious schools
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will be prohibited from choosing not to hire someone based on their gender identity or sexual orientation
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the reason why that is different than not hiring someone based on their race or sex which we would
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consider immoral the reason it's different not to hire someone as a religious organization based on their
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sexual orientation or gender identity is because there is a moral component to it
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there is a biblical component to it because as i've already said god already set up what marriage was
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god already set up what gender and sex was in the bible uh there is no question on that so if you
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have a biblical worldview there would be a moral and biblical reason not to hire someone who is
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transgender or not to hire someone who is in a same-sex relationship you don't have to agree with that
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if you're not a christian or if you don't hold this worldview i don't expect you to agree with that
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but people who do have that worldview should have the freedom to exercise their religion as they see
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fit um and if you think this won't soon apply to the curriculum that's taught in these private schools
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and these christian schools you are crazy i promise you that christian schools are not immune from this
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the goal is total and absolute control of the schools control of the churches a control of what is
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taught in what is preached that is the goal uh and they justify these totalitarian tactics by saying
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that they are limiting practices that quote harm people but harm in their terms actually just means
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offend because the left the the leftist dogma the leftist point of view believes that the lgbtq
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community and other minority groups have a right not to be offended and that right trumps your
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constitutional right to free exercise of religion to teach your kids what you want to teach them
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to preach to preach to your converse uh congregation what you want to preach to them
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that is not a slippery slope fallacy if you think that the liberals like beto only want to decimate
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one part of the first amendment the free uh exercise part and not another part of the first amendment
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the free speech part then you are kidding yourself and i've heard people say well oh this is just beto
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he is just crazy yes he is crazy but so are the rest of the candidates on stage he was just the
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only one brave enough to clearly articulate what they're all thinking here is what elizabeth
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warren has to say about people who believe in traditional marriage i'm old-fashioned and my faith
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teaches me that marriage is between one man and one woman what is your response well i'm gonna assume
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it's a guy who said that and i'm gonna say then just marry one woman i'm cool with that assuming you
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can find one so this is what liz warren thinks uh one that only men apparently believe in biblical
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marriage so that would mean that only men are orthodox christians only men believe in the
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sufficiency and the inerrancy of scripture we're right here liz you're welcome to come on the podcast
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there are hundreds of thousands of women in this country alone who believe that god defined
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marriage is between a man and a woman and that he did that purposefully again you should go back and
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listen to uh the biblical marriage episode if you want to know why liz warren you are uh totally welcome
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to do that but to her if you believe in the orthodox view of marriage then you are completely repugnant
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no one would ever want to marry you uh you are so unattractive to any potential spouse uh because
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of your religious beliefs if that's not bigotry i don't know what is that's what all of these
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candidates think of you if you allow the bible to shape your worldview which automatically and
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unquestionably includes the definition of marriage is between one man and one woman then you are gross to
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them you're gross you're gross you're disgusting you are embarrassing remember when we talked about
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taylor swift's music video you need to calm down in which she told all of us to calm down because we
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believe in the definition of marriage that has existed for thousands of years that was authored by
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the creator of the universe yeah that's what they all think that we just need to calm down but the
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reality is i i don't think it's us that's really we're not the ones that are losing our cool what we saw
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from the stage at the lgbtq town hall uh was that this is a religion progressivism is a religion and
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if you for one second go out of their orthodoxy which has only been around for a few years if you
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for one second blaspheme them if you for one second don't bow down to their god of progressivism then
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you are a heretic and you will be excommunicated you will be punished you will be thrown out
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you will be regarded as a social pariah and you will also lose your tax exemption status
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if you are a church who holds to a biblical definition of marriage that's what they think
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of you joe biden the so-called a moderate of the group said this the american people are better
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than we give them credit for but we allow we allow the homophobes to be able to control the agenda
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so homophobes phobia means that you have an irrational fear of something so he's saying
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that people again who believe in the bible have an irrational fear of gay people which isn't true
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at all just remember that he was the vice president for the guy who said in 2008 in 2008 like that's not
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that long ago guys that's 11 years ago just a little over a decade ago barack obama said that
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he believes that marriage is between one man and one woman that shows you just how fast this revolution
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has gone this gender and sexual revolution has gone over the past 10 years and we are being told
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if you don't get on this crazy train right now that's going a million miles a minute not knowing
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where the heck it's going by the way then you're wrong you're on the wrong side of the tracks you're
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on the wrong side of history and we will make you pay uh christians need to learn something
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christians need to learn that the democrats for the most part today not all democrats for sure but
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the democrats represented on this stage the democrats that are represented in the media they don't like
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you they don't like you they hate you they hate your worldview they hate your bible they hate your
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beliefs therefore they hate your god they hate what you think and they will only accept you if you are
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christian the left will only accept you if you water down your faith so much to the point where
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you're basically an agnostic who uses the name of jesus when it's convenient for you those are the
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only kinds of christians and really the only kinds of religious people that they really like
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any kind of religious person so whether you are jewish or a muslim who actually holds to the
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tenets of their faith uh which happened to be pretty traditional when it comes to marriage
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obviously those three religions differ on a whole lot but traditional when it comes to marriage if
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you actually hold to that well then there's a huge problem no the left wants you to be an agnostic
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who just believes in the culturally convenient and the socially acceptable parts of your faith
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they hate you if you disagree with them they will call you a bigot they will punish you legally
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they don't believe in your right to think or say or believe what you want and they will come for
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your freedoms they will come for your kids schools and they will probably in our lifetimes come for
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your kids they will not believe that you have a right to raise your kids how you want to raise them
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because they will say you're harming your kids this is bigoted this is uh some form of emotional
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or gender abuse because you say that marriage is between a man and a woman and your biological sex
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actually determines your gender they will say this is wrong they will come for your children
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okay so if you want to know if you want to know this is not fear mongering by the way the writing
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is on the wall in the same way that this tax exemption a tax exemption taken away was uh was
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written on the wall a few years ago and all christians said that it was going to happen and now
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it is actually talked about openly that it is going to happen or the democrats wanted to happen
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the writing is on the wall it's not fear mongering um and if you want to know guys
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why evangelical christians support donald trump this is why i'm so tired of hearing from people
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christians and non-christians alike how can evangelicals support donald trump he is so immoral
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he has you know married so many women he has been sexually promiscuous he says terrible things and
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it's all true it's all true and i'm not saying that we shouldn't care about those things or we
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shouldn't call those things sin because they are sin we should disapprove of those things we do not
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support donald trump because he is christ-like we don't support donald trump because he's perfect or
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we want him to be our pastor we support donald trump because unlike all the democrats he's not going
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at uh he's not going to war with evangelical christians he is not trying to take away our freedom
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he is not trying to stand in the way of our liberty he's not telling us what to preach or what to teach our
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kids he's not saying that he's going to take away the tax exemption status from churches
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who believe in traditional marriage that is why evangelical christians support donald trump
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because at least he's going to leave us alone at least he believes in religious liberty at least
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his administration is fighting for religious liberty so if you want to know if you want to know why
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evangelical christians keep voting for this guy it's not because we think he's our messiah at least i'm
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speaking for myself and the people that i know that support him it's not because we think he's perfect
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it's because at least he's going to protect our liberty at least he doesn't hate us like at least
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he doesn't condescend us at least he doesn't demonize us at least he doesn't say that our
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sincerely held beliefs are bigotry and discount them is not real and validate them as a way to
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hate people because that's not what they are at least it's not elizabeth warren like these democrats
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at the town hall that we're talking about just made clip after clip of trump campaign commercials
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this is what they think of you religious people this is what they think of you christians they hate
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you they hate you they patronize you they think you're gross they think you're archaic they think
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there's no way that you've ever thought for yourself that there's no way that you could possibly be
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intellectual that you could possibly be genuine in your faith that you are just a westboro
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baptist christian that hates people they couldn't possibly understand how you can love people and
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disagree with their sin why because their religion of progressivism refuses to let them see the world
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that way i want to play you another clip of cory booker he says that he is going to go after schools
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that deny lgbtq students equality and i will number one change the trump administration's guidance
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back to what the obama administration's guidance was that schools could allow people to use the
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bathrooms that conforms with their gender identity but we cannot stop there we must use our department
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of justice and our department of education's civil rights division to go after schools that are
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denying people equal rights and equal protections so this is what i mean when i say that democrats
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have placed themselves um in opposition to churches and i think that this is a huge mistake for their
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part i think that this is going to cost to them the election because they think this is what
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unfortunately people in the leftist media people in dc people in new york and in san francisco and la
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they assume that most of the country thinks the way they do like most of the country is just as
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extreme as they are that no one really believes in traditional marriage like no one believes really
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the biological sex corresponds with gender that's just a of a tiny little sliver of people and they're
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going to be extinct pretty soon there's certainly no young people that believe that way anyone who is
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in any way sophisticated or who has been educated at all or who is under the age of 60 they are all on
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the right side of history and they believe in this gender and sexual revolution and so they think that
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they can get away with saying things that we're going to go after christian schools i don't think
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that they recognize the ire of parents in suburbia like i don't think that they recognize that there are
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a lot of christian women who for a while maybe they were kind of considering voting democrat because you
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know what they don't like president trump and uh they don't like what's going on at the border
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and they kind of just think the whole trumpian thing the whole um demonization of the press is
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uncouth they are just not attracted to his style there might have been some suburban moms who
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previously voted republican who were thinking about voting democrat in fact we know that's kind of been
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a movement he's just not attractive to suburban moms you start telling start telling suburban moms that
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you're going to infiltrate their schools start telling suburban moms that you're going to start
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telling them what they can teach their kids start telling christian suburban moms that you are not
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going to allow their pastor to preach what they want to preach about marriage start infiltrating
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our belief system start start infiltrating uh our private schools start messing with our kids
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start indoctrinating our kids see how long that lasts i think you underestimate the passion
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and the protectiveness of suburban christian moms this will start a war in this country this will start
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a war in this country if you try if you try to influence our kids through indoctrinating them at
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school or a church or whatever if you mess with our private institutions that we have worked very hard
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uh to protect and to protect the religious liberty of you will start a war you will and actually pete
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buddha judge uh he said that in a way he was talking he was answering a question about better
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or work saying that he was going to take away the tax exemption status he said that i agree that
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anti-discrimination law ought to be applied to all institutions but the idea that you're going to
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strip churches of their tax-exempt status if they haven't found their way toward blessing same-sex
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marriage i'm not sure uh he understood the implications of what he was saying i mean that means not only going to
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war with churches but i would think with mosques and a lot of organizations that may not have the
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same view of various religious principles that i do but also because of the separation of church and
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state are acknowledged uh so if we want to talk about anti-discrimination law for school or organization
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absolutely they should not be able to discriminate i'm not going to keep going on that so at first i was
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thinking okay pete buddha judge good for him i think i would say this is part good for him at least he
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understands politically that this is not very savvy uh to say that you're going to punish churches he
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might be on the left side of the theological and the political aisle but he at least understands that
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that's probably not the best way to go now do i think in practice he would advocate for something
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like the equality act of course i do and do i think that he really cares too much about religious liberty
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uh no i don't but he did bring up a good point about the separation of church and state and he actually
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used it for once uh someone on the left used it in the right context the separation of church and
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state first of all it's not in the constitution but it is a principle that is supposed to protect
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the church from the state not the state from the church it's supposed to protect the church from the
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state not the state from the church of course uh we have the first amendment that uh prohibits the
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government from establishing a national religion but the separation of church and state was supposed to
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protect the pulpit from the government saying what you can and can't say how you can and can't act
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what you can and can't believe and he's right about that uh the separation of church and state is a
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principle that is important not primarily for the state not primarily for the government it's not meant
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to restrict religious people from believing what we want to believe but restricting the state from
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infringing upon the rights of the church and that is what is at stake here the fact of the matter is
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religious liberty and individual liberty is not a value that the left has they're not interested in
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freedom they're not interested in liberty they're interested in control that is why they are advocating
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now for socialism they would rather have forced equal mediocrity than unequal levels of wealth on
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equal levels of success they want everything to be controlled in their minds they think that if they
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can control everything if they can control all the variables then we will be in this equal utopia and
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everyone will be happy and that includes a controlling religion and what is actually said they do not
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believe in individual liberty that is not a value that they have individual liberty for them is a
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culprit in inequality and a culprit in oppression and so in order to uh rid america of oppression which
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of course is never going to happen because the world is sinful but to rid the world of inequality
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they think that they have to stifle individual liberty as much as possible and if you look at
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every totalitarian regime every socialist or communist country in the world or throughout history
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religious liberty has always always been one of the first things to die that it's freedom of the press
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freedom of speech um in a way freedom of thought if you want to know how this goes just read 1984 that is
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exactly the path the democrats are forging and they don't care uh they they do not care marco rubio i
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thought made a really good point when he explained on twitter that this is exactly why this is exactly why
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so many people can't get on board with democrats there would be they they would win they would win every
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election from here on out if they could just not be so extreme if they could not be so crazy and not be
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so patronizing and condescending and downright hateful towards people who don't agree with them
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towards the millions and millions of people who believe and who have traditional values they would be able
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to win every election from here on out but because they cannot be not extreme because they don't care
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about individual liberty anymore because they are catering to such a small minority of so-called
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marginalized groups they are going to struggle and donald trump people like donald trump a candidate
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that when you think about it should never really have won in the first place people like that are
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going to keep winning it's not going to matter who you could put up kermit the frog on the rights
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and christians are not going to vote for people on the left who talk like this who say that they're
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going to take away our first amendment rights or try to take our first uh first amendment rights
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through as many means and whatever strategic means possible it's just not going to work for them and
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they don't they don't understand and marco rubio uh said that he said uh this is exactly this is
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exactly the reason why so many people in the middle of the country so many people who just don't agree
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religiously ideologically with democrats um why they can't get on board it's because of this elitism
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this uh condescension of people with uh traditional values elizabeth warren is a snob and he's exactly
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right of course he got dragged for this which shows you there is obviously a good portion of the country
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who uh agrees with her who agrees with beto at work they don't care also there is not a constitutional
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respect that is a value for the left they really couldn't care less about that they think a lot of
00:29:14.540
people on the left not everyone but a lot of people on the left believe that this is stolen land
00:29:18.200
that america is fundamentally a racist and horrible country and so why should it matter whether or not
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we uphold the constitution why should it matter matter whether or not people that we don't agree
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with have liberty and have the freedom to exercise their religion how they want to have the freedom to
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say and think what they want to why why do we care about that a lot of people on the left would say
00:29:38.800
because uh truth because freedom because individual liberty constitutionality these are not values that
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the left upholds and we can see that extremely clearly when it comes to the democratic
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candidates so now this is mainstream so we're talking about mainstream democrats who hate
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christians and who hate christianity and who hate any kind of orthodoxy or uh traditional characteristic
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of beliefs this is not just some fringe group this is not antifa that we're talking about this is not
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just aoc or the squad these are people running for president of the united states who represent the
00:30:10.400
mainstream of the democratic party they don't represent everyone in the democratic party but
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to say that they're not mainstream i would be a little bit crazy i want to talk about just a
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couple other things really quickly because i thought it was remarkable i want to play you this clip from
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aoc uh talking about climate change in denmark i believe it was deeper still we don't have to project
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one minute into our future to see that the climate crisis is already here on this note i speak to you not
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as an elected official or public figure but i speak to you as a human being a woman whose dreams of
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motherhood now taste bittersweet because of what i know about our children's future
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and that our actions are responsible for bringing their most dire possibilities into focus
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i speak so first of all let me tell you why i was encouraged by this clip
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i am encouraged if she's telling the truth that she has a dream of motherhood that's great i i really
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am glad for that like i i i want aoc now there's going to be a lot of jokes out there about oh aoc
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shouldn't have kids you shouldn't reproduce i don't agree with that i think having a kid makes
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you a better person i think that it makes you more responsible i think it makes you see things
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differently i think that it also brings you back into your christian faith if you have maybe walked
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away or you haven't been taking it seriously it just has a way of sanctifying you it has a way of
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making you more responsible and be able to see the future in a different light i think that having a
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child would greatly mature aoc and i hope that she gets married first and has a child i think that that
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would be a wonderful thing for her to do so i know a lot of people are saying oh no aoc shouldn't
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have a kid i hope that she has a kid and i hope that she that she realizes then that climate change
00:31:57.200
isn't all that she thinks it is i'm not saying that we shouldn't care about the earth that we
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shouldn't be good stewards of creation because of course as christians we believe that we should
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but it i don't believe it's this uh this dire circumstance and this imminent threat that the
00:32:10.740
left thinks it does that the world is going to end in 12 years i think there are probably some
00:32:14.320
common sense common sense free market solutions that we can employ and not absolute takeover of the
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government like aoc's green new deal would be um i wonder if she would kind of change her mind on
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that so i'm actually encouraged yes this is hyperbolic yes it's a little bit crazy but i'm
00:32:31.920
encouraged that she actually has a dream of motherhood i think that she should pursue that
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i think she should pursue that um so that's the update from um some of our friends on the left this
00:32:42.480
is going to be a crazy election guys it's going to be crazy like i'm not looking forward to it i feel
00:32:47.240
like the election just happened of 2016 i feel like it just happened like i am talking to you as
00:32:53.580
someone who i'm just going to be honest never been a big fan of donald trump's persona never been
00:32:59.440
a big fan of his personality the way that he does things i was on team no tweets and i did vote for
00:33:06.200
him in 2016 because when it comes down to a general election it's a binary choice it just is i've heard
00:33:13.240
all the arguments to the contrary i don't know i understand not voting for either of them it was a
00:33:18.680
binary choice there was no way that i could vote for hillary clinton an advocate of abortion and
00:33:23.960
fantasize and as deeply corrupt as she as she was i knew that even though donald trump wasn't perfect
00:33:28.880
even though he wasn't as christ-like as i would want a president to be that he was at least going
00:33:35.860
to surround himself by people who would advocate for conservative values and advocate for things like
00:33:40.500
religious liberty which all christians should care about if you don't care about religious liberty then
00:33:44.860
you are stuck in a privileged bubble and you might want to read up about what's going on in china right
00:33:50.340
now how christians and muslims are thrown into concentration camps and gulags and executed and
00:33:55.640
their organs are being harvested uh if you want to see what it looks like when a totalitarian regime
00:34:00.520
takes away freedom of religion freedom of the press and free speech uh then you could just um read up
00:34:07.820
about the atrocities going on in that country which by the way the mba uh seems to love and refuses to
00:34:14.660
condemn i could do a whole episode on that i could also do a whole episode on what's going on in hong
00:34:18.920
kong when you have protesters pro-democracy pro-freedom protesters waving the american flag i'm like can we
00:34:25.100
do a little switcheroo like can we can we do a little switch can we take some hong kong protesters
00:34:30.520
make them american citizens take some people who hate america and religious liberty like some of the
00:34:35.100
people that we just heard and switch it and then the people over here who say oh religious liberty is not
00:34:39.720
that big of a deal constitution whatever they can see how it is in a communist country and how much
00:34:44.760
people just love it and how great and wonderful it is over there we can just switch and see how that
00:34:50.220
goes that's my proposal i don't know maybe i'll talk to president trump about it i think i got off
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track the point is is that uh 2020 election is going to be a huge deal and even though i haven't loved
00:35:01.160
donald trump this episode and the things that we uh have talked about here it's why it's why i i have no
00:35:08.020
other choice but to vote for him i have no other choice but to convince you to vote for him and to
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persuade other people to vote for him uh other christians and now i understand if you were on
00:35:17.160
the left why you wouldn't vote for him but i i don't really understand how anyone with any
00:35:22.580
semblance of traditional values could vote democrat they hate you they hate everything you think and
00:35:27.400
everything you believe everything that you hold dear i mean there's just no other way around it so
00:35:32.440
he bothers me on a lot of different levels there are a lot of things he said and done
00:35:36.560
and done that i i don't agree with but really the democrats they give me and people like me no
00:35:43.400
choice they have very much made clear where they stand on the things that matter to us and that's
00:35:51.280
been their choice and that's fine we'll see how it goes for them okay that's all i have today we will
00:35:57.080
be back here on friday i'm so excited for you to listen to the conversation that i'm going to have
00:36:02.120
them with jeremy volo you can look him up on instagram he is the husband of who you might know
00:36:06.640
as ginger duggar but he is an awesome person of course in his own right uh he is studying at
00:36:14.520
master seminary in california that is the seminary of that is under the leadership of john mcarthur and
00:36:20.120
we are going to have an incredible conversation about the gospel and what's missing in young
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christianity and i'm so excited for you to hear that so make sure that you tune in and i will see you