SNEAKO - ＂Forgive your mother!＂ Jesse Lee Peterson VS. SNEAKO

00:00:00.000 and happy white history month. Happy white history month. July just feels white. My guest 0.71

00:00:07.120 is for manhood hour. Today is Sneeko. And Sneeko is a popular online personality

00:00:15.300 and successful content creator known for his one minute podcast. And I want to talk to Sneeko

00:00:25.000 about feminism, manhood, all those good things. Sneeko, welcome to the show. 1.00

00:00:31.440 How are you doing, Jesse Lee Peterson? Can you hear me? I can, loud and clear.

00:00:35.140 Everything sounds good. I'm a big fan of your work. I like a lot of what you did at the S-Word Walk.

00:00:41.280 It was a history interview you did in New York City. I've liked a lot of your interviews for a while.

00:00:46.100 I'm actually, I'm a big fan. Thank you, man. I didn't know that. Thank you.

00:00:49.460 That was at the S-Word Walk. Yep. Well, I was censoring it because we're on YouTube. I'm on

00:00:56.460 Rumble. So, oh, you got it. No words you can't say. Oh, you can't get a slut anymore? I guess 1.00

00:01:02.300 you can, but I'm just trying to play it safe because you are on a, on a wokey beta male

00:01:06.380 website like YouTube. I'm on alpha male Rumble. There you go. Are you, are you black? You look 1.00

00:01:12.660 like you mix with something. Yeah, I'm black, Asian, and white. I'm half Filipino. My dad is

00:01:19.160 half black, half white. Amazing. So how did you get, how did you get started? And thank

00:01:24.520 you, man. I didn't know you recognized who we were, but thank you for being a, what made

00:01:30.900 you get into podcast? How did all that start? How did I get into becoming a podcast doing

00:01:38.040 the work that you do? A podcaster. I would say I'm a streamer. I mean, I do a lot of podcasts,

00:01:41.800 but I've been doing content. I've been doing videos for a long time, for about 10 years.

00:01:45.880 I was banned on YouTube last year, and now I've been creating content on Rumble for about

00:01:50.860 eight, nine months, something like that. And I just always wanted to express myself. I

00:01:55.340 always wanted to talk about social issues. I always wanted to get into filmmaking. Stuff

00:01:59.500 like this really makes me interested. And it's just, it's always just been what I wanted to

00:02:04.420 do. And I turned it into a career. Right on, man. And so what's important to you?

00:02:11.160 The truth is important. And I think the most effective way to get to the truth is to be

00:02:16.940 entertaining and is to be funny. My motto is seek truth through funny. I don't think that

00:02:20.340 people listen if you're not entertaining, if you're not making them laugh to some extent.

00:02:23.860 I think that's the most effective way to communicate. So I'd like to be able to get to

00:02:27.760 the truth, but I think that you can't do it without being entertaining. And ultimately,

00:02:31.540 I think what I do is a blend of comedy, of filmmaking and social commentary.

00:02:36.780 Amazing. And what is the truth?

00:02:41.060 The truth is very simple. I think everybody knows it deep down, but because of all the

00:02:46.160 programming and because of cancel culture and people prioritizing their feelings over reality,

00:02:52.080 we ignore the truth and we separate ourselves from the truth all the time. But I think the

00:02:57.780 truth is very simple, that there's a higher power. And I think that men and women have specific

00:03:02.240 roles and these very simple facts we have to argue about all the time. And we need to have shows

00:03:09.020 like this in order to spread that because we're in a world now where anything goes and we tolerate

00:03:15.620 everything. For example, you had a destiny on your show a couple of years ago. I liked that interview

00:03:19.600 you did yesterday. I spoke to him and people like him who don't believe in God, they yesterday

00:03:24.800 I had a debate with him and he was arguing that bestiality is fine because it's not hurting

00:03:28.440 anybody. He was arguing that incest is okay because once you start accepting any kind,

00:03:33.440 all kinds of sexual deviancy, then you, you open up the floodgates for all types of immoral

00:03:37.680 behavior. And so we need to have specific ground rules that I think if you're going to get to

00:03:41.680 the truth, it's very simple to start with God.

00:03:44.580 Yeah, absolutely. How old are you?

00:03:46.940 I'm 24.

00:03:47.880 And so were you, you were raised by both parents, father and mother.

00:03:51.960 And so that who were you closer to your father, your mother?

00:03:56.860 I was probably closer with my father. I relate to him more. I think men relate to other men

00:04:01.320 more, but both my parents, I think they did a great job raising me. I hope so. And my dad

00:04:07.600 is a really big role model. And I would say one of my, like a superhero in my life. I really

00:04:14.440 look up to him. And my mother did a great job. And even to this day, she does a good job

00:04:17.980 of, they, they watch everything I do. So they really try to make sure that I'm, I'm staying

00:04:22.240 on a straight path and I'm spreading the right message because I do have a big platform.

00:04:26.800 And so, um, are you surprised that, that your platform took off so fast and doing so well?

00:04:34.480 No, I always knew that it would, it took longer than I expected, I think to, to get to the point

00:04:40.740 where I really want it to be. I didn't expect to get banned the way I did. I didn't think that

00:04:44.600 they should have deleted my main channel because I had no strikes on it. But when they ban

00:04:48.760 you on YouTube, they completely wipe you and they delete all of it. So they got rid of

00:04:52.120 all my work, but I think I was able to survive the cancellation. I was deleted off of a lot

00:04:57.060 of platforms, Twitter, Tik TOK, Twitch, and YouTube. I got my Twitter back because of

00:05:00.700 Elon. And even after the cancellation, I think I I've even doubled my audience and widened

00:05:07.140 my reach. So it's something that I've always expected and set a standard for myself to

00:05:11.000 to get to this point. And so you started out when you were 14 years old, 14. Yes. Amazing.

00:05:17.480 And I want to ask you, uh, for your, your age group of men, it's hard to find decent young

00:05:24.400 women to date or even marry because women are in competition with men. Now they want to be 1.00

00:05:30.160 like men. Is it hard for you to find a woman to date? It is. It's very difficult. I don't

00:05:36.820 think it's worthwhile to find a woman in the West. Sure that there's probably some good 1.00

00:05:41.980 ones, but I think I've been traveling the world quite a bit and seeing the quality of

00:05:46.720 women that exist in different countries. It just seems like a stupid decision to try 1.00

00:05:51.540 to invest in a woman in the West when she's been indoctrinated by feminism. So I just don't 1.00

00:05:56.540 think it's worth it. It's just, if you're going to, if you're going to make an investment

00:06:00.120 into the future, you very clearly the odds are against you when it comes to women in the

00:06:05.020 West. So I have been traveling and meeting women across the world. I think that I need

00:06:10.180 to have a girl who's not really on social media, a girl who isn't addicted to TikTok because

00:06:14.680 as soon as they download those apps, they immediately start getting ideas they would have never had

00:06:18.060 without them. Amazing. And so, um, what's the difference? And I understand what you said

00:06:24.800 about the TikTok thing, the women around the world, I know you traveled a lot. I've, I heard

00:06:30.120 about that. Uh, have you met anyone in any part of the world that you think you would like to date

00:06:35.860 or marry? Yeah, I've met a lot of women that I think fit that some, that criteria, but at the 1.00

00:06:42.960 same time I am 24 and I know that a lot of religious people get married at this age, but I'm a very

00:06:48.100 career oriented person. So I think that in fully investing myself into a long-term relationship now

00:06:54.100 is not the best idea. If I want to be self-sufficient for my entire life and, and not get trapped or get

00:07:02.680 stuck in a relationship, that's not right. So I have my good, uh, good women, but I'm still waiting 0.99

00:07:08.760 and making sure that I can, I can mature more because I still am growing quite a bit. I still

00:07:14.280 have a lot of maturing to do. Uh, you know, I'm, I'm 24 and I've made quite a bit of mistakes in my life

00:07:19.740 and I've been, I've went down the wrong path. So I just want to make sure that I'm completely

00:07:24.660 masculine and secure and everything that I do. And I'm able to be the protector and provider that

00:07:30.500 my children need from a father. So you hope to get married one day and have, and make kids.

00:07:36.820 Yeah, that's one of the, that's the biggest goal of mine. I want to have a big family,

00:07:40.600 a lot of children. Sometimes I joke and say that I want 10, but I think that that's a big number.

00:07:44.760 I think it's more important to start with one and then see how that goes. Of course,

00:07:48.440 it's fun to say things like I want 10, I want 10 sons, all this stuff, but seeing,

00:07:52.660 I've been interacting with a lot of parents and a lot of young fathers. And it's like seeing the

00:07:56.500 amount of the, the investment it takes to just raise one is huge. So it's like you start with

00:08:02.100 one and then, and then you can, you can think about two and then maybe 10, but yeah, I really

00:08:05.800 want a big family. I think that that's the, that's the reason that God created us is so that we can

00:08:10.100 reproduce and so that we can make the world a better place with children who are motivated and who want to do

00:08:15.420 good. Yeah. I remember in high school, I said, I was going to get married. I wanted 10 children as

00:08:20.400 well. I ended up only making one. And so now I have one son, two grandkids, well adults now,

00:08:27.840 and two great grandkids. So it's, it's, it's building up. When you, I know you don't want a

00:08:33.600 tick top woman. Uh, what do you want in a woman? What would you like? The type of woman you would 1.00

00:08:39.820 like, if you decide to date and marry, what type of woman would you want? When it comes to marrying 0.92

00:08:45.060 a girl, I have very simple criteria that they need to meet before I can even consider. There's 1.00

00:08:50.980 a lot of other things that you look for in a relationship, like personality compatibility,

00:08:55.220 these things, but to get in the door, I think the best relationship that would work for me longterm

00:09:00.780 is she needs to be Muslim. She needs to be a virgin and she needs to be unvaccinated. If she fits those 1.00

00:09:06.000 three, then, then we could talk, then we can very important. Yeah. Amazing. So have you dated

00:09:15.300 women outside of America? I have. And how did that go? Someone? Well, some didn't go well, 1.00

00:09:23.920 but I think it was trial and error. You know, maybe dating is a waste of time. And for example,

00:09:30.740 in the Quran, they say that dating is Ram. You should just marry right away. But I do think that I learned 0.91

00:09:35.600 quite a bit from those relationships and I learned about myself. I've done a quite a bit of dating.

00:09:42.080 I'm 24 and I've had a lot of relationships and lots of ups and downs. So those were good. And I

00:09:48.520 actually, I do prefer women who are not Westernized. I think that that's a better, that just works better 1.00

00:09:54.520 for me. There's more compatibility there. I don't have to get around. As soon as a woman starts talking 1.00

00:09:58.380 about astrology or if she's always on her phone, she's always on Tik TOK and she's invested into

00:10:03.220 celebrities. If she's talking about Kim Kardashian, then immediately it's just like,

00:10:07.080 I just don't want to have to reprogram her and tell her how much of a psyop that is.

00:10:10.820 I would rather get a non-Westernized woman who wants to be the balance of my life. 1.00

00:10:17.040 You, um, when you date, do you spend, I noticed that a lot of men your age and maybe even older now

00:10:23.460 spend a lot of money on women that they date. Do you spend money on women that you date?

00:10:27.780 When I really do love and care about them, then I do. I'm not the type of person to go take them

00:10:33.640 to the mall and buy a bunch of nonsense, but women are expensive. They're one of the most 1.00

00:10:38.000 expensive commodities out there, not just in terms of how much you're spending monetarily, but when 0.99

00:10:43.260 it comes to time, women are a giant time suck. So that's why I think that it's not the best idea 1.00

00:10:50.060 to invest in a long-term relationship now, because that's the, that's the most important currency you

00:10:54.720 have is your time and they will drain all of it. They will want all of it. They constantly want your

00:10:58.160 attention. You'll start doing things and spending time with them that you shouldn't, you should be

00:11:01.920 prioritizing a lot of that on work. And you just care about her feelings. You want to make sure that

00:11:05.440 she's comfortable and secure and she's happy. And that's just not worth it. When you're, I think

00:11:10.720 when you're 24 and I would give this advice for young men, I think at the ages of 18 to 25,

00:11:14.940 you shouldn't even focus on relationships. It's better to focus on yourself, focus on your career,

00:11:19.540 build those first, and then realize how important your time is and what you want to prioritize before you

00:11:24.560 invest in a long-term relationship. And since you were just dating them, why did you spend money

00:11:29.680 on them, period? Spend money on them because I like to make women happy. One of the best pleasures 1.00

00:11:37.400 in life is seeing a woman smile. But when you make her happy, you make her take control of you. 0.99

00:11:45.480 Because you can't make a woman happy. 1.00

00:11:49.780 Right. You can't make a woman happy. You can't make anybody happy, really. They need to be happy

00:11:53.620 themselves before. Yeah, you can't make a woman. But I guess it's like, you know, giving them, 1.00

00:12:00.360 making them happier, you know? But you're setting them up to use you.

00:12:07.780 And women see men that spend money on them, they see them as being weak. And they don't care about 1.00

00:12:14.840 men at all that spend money on them. They just pretend that they do so that they can get the money. 1.00

00:12:20.760 Women want men that don't love them, that cannot control, that they cannot control. And if they 1.00

00:12:27.680 can get you to spend money on them, they have control over you. In the good old days, men did 1.00

00:12:34.420 not spend money on women that they were dating. They would wait until marriage. And even then,

00:12:39.220 they would be sensible how much money they spend on a wife. But you should never spend money on a 0.86

00:12:45.440 woman you're dating. Even if you went out to eat, you know, it doesn't have to be like all an

00:12:50.200 expensive place, but not even a lot of money then. And there are women like men that they cannot 1.00

00:12:56.260 control at all. You're completely right. Now, I'm realizing it now. I'm thinking, as soon as you

00:13:01.860 said that, I'm thinking about all the relationships I spent a lot of money on. And those women end up 0.69

00:13:05.480 becoming ungrateful and unappreciated. They start expecting you to spend money on them and spend all

00:13:09.720 your time on them because they don't see it as a reward. They just expect it based off of your

00:13:14.240 interactions. Now, I'm realizing, as you said that, the women who are in love with me now,

00:13:19.160 I don't really spend any money on at all. I don't even spend any time at all. Like the women that you 0.99

00:13:23.720 give the least amount of attention to that she's chasing you, they're the ones who actually love

00:13:28.940 you. So that's a great point. And I don't think I'm going to spend money on a woman until I'm married 1.00

00:13:34.940 now. You just red-pilled me on money. What the? That's right, man. Women want men that don't want 1.00

00:13:43.060 them. They want men because they need the man to be right to bring them out of the hell that they 1.00

00:13:49.440 live in. Let me ask, what is love? Love is a decision. I think women fall in love and 1.00

00:13:58.380 men have to commit to love. They have to decide that it's something that they should invest in.

00:14:04.940 I guess you get those bubbly feelings and you get that Disney movie type of feeling maybe in the

00:14:09.160 beginning of a relationship. But after a while, that fades. And then you need to decide that the

00:14:14.000 person you're with is right for you. And not just because you love them, but because you fit each

00:14:21.140 other's priorities and what you want in life. So I think even thinking about those ideas too much

00:14:26.700 can drag a man down. And I think a lot of those movies that promote that ideology, it turns men into

00:14:33.920 simps. It turns women into delusional creatures. And we shouldn't obsess over this idea too much 1.00

00:14:40.640 because it's not good. That's not what creates a good relationship. What creates a good relationship

00:14:45.740 is work. You, um, and what is a man?

00:14:52.500 A man literally is an adult male, a biological male, but a man compared to a boy is somebody 0.73

00:15:03.680 who can protect somebody who can provide somebody who's strong, somebody who's capable, somebody

00:15:10.600 who is responsible of others. A man has to take care of somebody. And even if you go further, 0.59

00:15:16.640 I've been thinking about this. I think a gentleman is somebody who gives more to the earth and gives

00:15:21.540 more to those around him than he takes somebody who is giving because that's where I think men get 0.91

00:15:29.500 their happiness from and where men reach their, their real state as, as a, as a responsible man.

00:15:38.460 When you are giving to others, that's where you, you get, that's the top satisfaction in life.

00:15:43.840 That's where you'll, you'll find the most fulfillment.

00:15:46.460 Amazing. Um, do you have anger?

00:15:48.880 Of course I do. And, and how do you know you have anger?

00:15:55.800 Because I wake up angry and go to sleep angry. It's something that, uh, I'm angry right now.

00:16:02.700 Yeah. Yeah. You angry right now?

00:16:05.140 I'm angry, right? I'm furious. Why?

00:16:08.360 Because there's so many things to do. I have so many, I have so much more money to make. I have so

00:16:13.860 much more truth to spread. There's so many liars out there that I haven't exposed yet.

00:16:19.080 There's things that I haven't accomplished. There are people that are still doubting me

00:16:23.440 and there are, the world is run by evil satanic people. And it infuriates me that people don't

00:16:31.260 realize that it infuriates me that these people who are doing rituals on islands, they have ultimate

00:16:36.940 control and people live in ignorance because it's more comfortable. And that, that infuriates me.

00:16:41.800 And what, what good is it doing you to be angry about those things?

00:16:47.120 It provides me with the energy I need to get up and work every single day. I didn't, I slept one

00:16:51.460 hour last night. I stopped streaming at 4am after a five hour stream, something like that. After

00:16:56.700 getting off of a 20 hour flight from Thailand, I came home in a stream. I slept for one hour and woke

00:17:01.300 up for this and then I'm going to get to work. I have a lot of writing to do. I have my business

00:17:05.360 employees to contact. I have to get on a lot of phone calls. That anger that transfers into

00:17:11.480 energy. And if you don't have that energy, you're not going to be able to do the work that you need

00:17:15.160 to do. And, and why do you think you can't do those things without being angry?

00:17:22.880 I guess you can, but I think it's better when you have that, that energy that's going to give you

00:17:27.300 a competitive edge that other people don't have. If I'm pissed off and I have something to prove,

00:17:32.880 obviously I'm going to work better. That's the same reason that Michael Jordan

00:17:35.800 is training until 3am past everybody else. And he's doing extra drills because he's angry that

00:17:41.580 people don't know that he's a champion yet because he already knows he is a champion and all he has

00:17:45.520 to do is prove it. And you're not going to be able to prove that without some sense of anger that

00:17:50.640 people don't already know that you are the champion. That's amazing, man. Do you believe that you can

00:17:55.500 overcome anger and not be angry at all about anything at any time?

00:17:59.780 I think eventually, I think with the family and I think with a certain balance in life and

00:18:07.860 after a certain level of accomplishment, you don't strike me as an angry person, Jesse.

00:18:11.940 Right. I'm not, I have no anger at all. Do you, do you, um, do you want to,

00:18:19.340 do you think it's normal for a man to have anger?

00:18:22.980 I think it's a very normal emotion. I think that all men at a, at a certain age, especially young

00:18:31.480 men feel angry and a lot of them manifest that into the wrong things. And if they feel angry,

00:18:39.260 instead of using that anger, they will find cheap dopamine. They'll do things like smoke weed or watch

00:18:45.820 porn and kind of drown in that and then blame their inadequacies on something else.

00:18:52.020 Yeah. I think it's, it's a very normal emotion to have. And people in the chat are saying ego,

00:18:57.260 ego, every man has an ego. And if you don't have an ego, you need one. It's a very important thing

00:19:02.520 in order to, to accomplish what you want to accomplish. Ego is not a bad thing. You need

00:19:07.040 to have self-esteem. You need to believe in yourself. And if you don't have a sense, if you don't have an

00:19:12.980 ego at all, then you're not going to be able to get to that Michael Jordan level of success. And if you

00:19:17.960 don't want that, then that's fine. But all successful champions have a giant ego and they

00:19:22.460 need to tell, they need to prove to the world and to themselves that their ego is justified.

00:19:28.460 And what is success? How do you define success or successful?

00:19:32.740 I think you can measure success in terms of impact. I see the success when people come up to me. This

00:19:38.960 kid came up to me in Thailand yesterday, the day before, and he was, he was, he was like almost on

00:19:46.620 the verge of tears. And this doesn't happen all the time, but he was saying, uh, he looked a little

00:19:50.040 bit chubby, but kind of that, that skin chubby where you could tell that he lost weight. And he was 0.98

00:19:55.360 telling me that he lost 20 kg because of a video where I was fat shaming a trans person. And just that

00:20:01.520 little joke, like I'm, I'm there saying that this dude is overweight. I'm saying that he looks like

00:20:06.620 Peter Griffin, just making jokes. And, but he said that that video inspired him and motivated

00:20:12.060 him to get into the gym. And he was extremely happy in the way he shook my hand and was saying

00:20:16.500 like, I want to be like you, like you, you really inspired me. Thank you so much. And so seeing that

00:20:21.500 made my day and made me realize like, that's all the work that I do manifests itself into real life.

00:20:27.660 I think that that's actual success. Seeing that somebody took something from a joke I made

00:20:32.360 and it turned into something positive. And now he's better off because of what I did. I think

00:20:37.840 that's success. Um, did you say you were a Muslim? Yes. I recently reverted to Islam about four months 0.95

00:20:45.520 ago. Were you a Christian at one time? I grew up Catholic. Yes. And what made you switch?

00:20:51.780 I never fully resonated with Catholicism. I didn't feel, uh, spiritual. I didn't feel the higher power

00:20:59.320 when I was in church. I didn't like the repetition of it. And it was, it's, it was forced upon me,

00:21:04.880 which is not bad, but it wasn't something that I found. It was something that I was taught. And so

00:21:10.100 I guess I equated a lot of that to the lives that I was taught in school. And a lot of the,

00:21:15.380 like they told me that I needed to get a nine to five job and that I need to do this. And you can't

00:21:19.400 say that. And so I kind of equated Catholicism and in church with a lot of what they were telling me

00:21:25.040 I had to do, but I didn't want to do. So I never really resonated with Catholicism and we can get 0.99

00:21:30.960 deeper into things. Like I never really understood the Holy spirit. I never really resonated with the

00:21:36.000 act of communion, eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood. There's certain things that

00:21:39.800 I never, I, that I never understood that that didn't make sense to me. And they just told me I

00:21:44.600 needed to accept, but Islam is the, is the right religion for me. And why is that? Oh, let me ask 0.59

00:21:51.060 before you answer that, who forced religion, uh, Christian, uh, Christianity on your parents or

00:21:56.920 the schools? My parents, uh, forced Catholicism. Okay. And what is it about Islam that you like? 0.93

00:22:05.360 I see it as the, as the one truth. I see it as the one monotheistic religion. And I think I first

00:22:10.760 started resonating with it when I saw it as the only answer to all the woke garbage that we see on 0.98

00:22:14.980 social media. And we see in the culture in the West, Islam fixes all these problems with what's 0.98

00:22:19.740 written in the Quran. But not only that, it's not just practical, not just in terms of how

00:22:24.120 it makes you more steadfast and keeps you centered by praying five times a day and telling you not to

00:22:30.500 drink and telling you not to put bad things into your body, telling you the importance of gender 1.00

00:22:33.980 roles. But also I just see it as the one true monotheistic religion. I see Muhammad peace be upon

00:22:38.300 him as a, as a final prophet. I think Jesus was a prophet as well, but I don't see the other

00:22:42.600 religions as monotheistic. I think that's extremely important. I don't think we should pray to a man

00:22:46.960 and we could argue about whether or not Jesus was a man or with, if he's man and God simultaneously.

00:22:51.280 A lot of Christians disagree about that, but Islam, it seems like it's the only book that has

00:22:56.080 not been manipulated in 1400 years. And it's the one true monotheistic religion because there's no

00:23:01.720 idol worship. You don't draw the prophets. You don't draw, you can't conceptualize God. You just

00:23:06.340 pray to God.

00:23:07.720 And you have to, and do you pray five times a day?

00:23:11.660 Sometimes, but I, it's been difficult and I need to be better at that. I try to,

00:23:15.920 but I'm, I'm very busy. And there's some passages that will say in certain Hadiths and in the Quran

00:23:21.140 that if you are busy or if you're traveling, then you're able, then you're excused. But I,

00:23:25.500 that's an excuse that I'm making right now. I need to start praying more, but I do try to pray every

00:23:29.660 day.

00:23:30.240 Amazing. And do you, so did your mother force Christianity upon you or your father? 0.65

00:23:36.200 It was my mother and father. They both grew up Catholic. And so it was just natural. They

00:23:39.360 grew up Catholic. So I grew up Catholic.

00:23:40.560 Nice. Um, do you, if, if it, do you have perfect peace?

00:23:46.940 Do I have perfect peace with Islam? 1.00

00:23:48.960 No, do you? Yeah. With, not as you become a part of the Islam thing there, do you have perfect peace? 0.99

00:23:55.740 I think I found a new level of mental clarity and peace and stoicism with Islam. I've, I've, 1.00

00:24:04.360 haven't felt this centered my entire life until I reverted to Islam. Everything starts to make 1.00

00:24:11.540 more sense. And I, I have found a new peace.

00:24:14.580 Is it, is it perfect?

00:24:17.780 It's hard to say because I'm not perfect and I can only judge based on my reaction to it and

00:24:23.620 humans aren't perfect, but I do think Islam is perfect. 0.85

00:24:27.540 I wanted to ask, and then I have another question here, um, um, about dating. Would you date any

00:24:34.180 race of a woman? And does it matter what race is, if it's the type of woman that you want? 1.00

00:24:40.240 Right. We can, we can go back and forth. I'm not sure what you think about race mixing,

00:24:43.360 but I mean, I am a product of race mixing. So it's like, I'm not really going to find another 1.00

00:24:48.820 Filipino, Haitian, Hungarian. So I'm, I'm going to race mix no matter what.

00:24:53.440 And even if I find a woman who's exactly the same race as me, it's, it's technically still 1.00

00:24:58.140 race mixing. So I don't have any preference when it comes to, when it comes to dating or 0.99

00:25:05.020 the woman I marry. I've dated, uh, Senegalese, dark-skinned women, I've dated, uh, light women, 0.96

00:25:09.480 I've dated Hispanic women, I've dated, um, all colors. Let me take a quick break. I'll come

00:25:14.520 back and we'll close out. 888-775-3773. 888-77-JESSIE. Back in a moment.

00:25:31.640 Nico, how can people find your website and things like that?

00:25:35.380 They can find me on rumble.com slash Nico. I would say that that's the biggest mainstream

00:25:39.720 free speech platform. And I stream there every night right now. I'm back in Miami and I travel

00:25:44.900 a lot. So a lot of the other content you could see there, but I post very regularly on rumble.

00:25:49.500 Um, I want to ask you, you're now a Muslim and you mentioned Jesus, uh, is Jesus God or the son of 0.97

00:25:57.040 God?

00:25:57.940 I think he's neither. I think he is a, I think he was a prophet.

00:26:01.440 But you think, and why do you think that?

00:26:05.220 That's what we believe in Islam, but we believe that Christians were, were very close to the truth,

00:26:09.920 but Islam is the truth and Muhammad was the final prophet. But I don't think that any one person

00:26:14.860 could be the son of God and nor do I think that a man can be God and a man simultaneously. That

00:26:20.680 doesn't make sense to me.

00:26:21.600 So you're saying that, you said that Jesus was a prophet and what is a prophet?

00:26:27.940 A prophet is a messenger of God. Somebody who spreads the message of God and, and, and who is

00:26:34.640 God?

00:26:36.260 God, we can't conceptualize, but God is the divine creator. The all merciful. God is the reason that

00:26:41.940 we exist, the designer, an all intelligent being that we don't know what exactly he is or where he

00:26:48.440 is or what he looks like, but we know that he was the intelligent designer and we should worship him.

00:26:52.720 And why don't you know exactly who he is?

00:26:55.400 Because the same reason that a smartphone doesn't know who Steve jobs is, the creation will never

00:27:01.640 be able to understand or conceptualize what the creator is because the creator is more

00:27:05.220 intelligent. Do you believe you were created by God? Yes. And if you were created by him,

00:27:13.280 do you believe he love you? Yes. And if he love you, why would he want you to know who he is?

00:27:19.840 Because it's not worth it. It's, he created us so that we could worship him and maybe we will meet him

00:27:27.860 in the afterlife in heaven. But the whole purpose of, of life on earth is to be able to, to be the best

00:27:34.280 we can be so that we can enjoy eternal paradise.

00:27:37.560 And, and why would, would you want to have a father? Would you consider God as your father?

00:27:46.240 God as my father? No, but we, we use the word he, when we refer to God.

00:27:52.580 And why?

00:27:53.440 We use the pronoun he.

00:27:54.340 And why not father? I understand that he thinks how he is a masculine persuasion, but why not father?

00:28:01.660 Okay. I'm not sure what the direct reason is in the Quran. I know that they do that and they say

00:28:08.820 that in Christianity, but I think father is a, is it's a man made, it's a way to relate it to

00:28:17.100 way humans could understand because we understand exactly what a father figure is. I think that trying

00:28:22.780 to compare God to man-made ideas and the, the man created family is not really necessary.

00:28:33.380 And why is that?

00:28:35.880 Because again, if we can't conceptualize what God is, then, I mean, there can't be a father without

00:28:40.580 a mother and there is no mother. So a father that doesn't exist if there's no mom.

00:28:45.700 But, uh, God is not a physical. He is a spirit.

00:28:50.400 Right. Well, I wouldn't necessarily say God is a spirit. It's, he's an all intelligent

00:28:59.380 being. I think putting the word spirit on it is again, it's too, it's too specific.

00:29:06.540 And why is that?

00:29:08.900 Again, because there's, there's no point in, in Islam, we don't believe that there's any 1.00

00:29:13.580 point in really trying to figure this out. We know that we should worship God because he

00:29:17.620 created all of us, but you know, there's no reason to try to figure out if he's a spirit

00:29:23.020 or if he's a father, because that's not important. And we will never know.

00:29:27.980 If you can know now, would you want to know him?

00:29:34.980 No, I will want to, to wait until I go to heaven and do the right thing. Now, I think

00:29:39.940 that that would manipulate the way I view earth too much. And I wouldn't be able to still interact

00:29:47.040 with other people knowing everything. Cause if I, if I spoke to God, then I would know

00:29:51.520 too much and nothing would make sense on earth.

00:29:53.920 So if you want, it will, if it were possible for you to know the truth, why you live, then

00:30:00.300 you wouldn't want to know that until after you die.

00:30:03.100 I would wait until I die. I want, I want to do it the right way. I would go insane. I would try to

00:30:09.040 tell everybody and then I'd end up yelling at a pole behind a gas station. 0.69

00:30:13.000 So what's the purpose of praying to the father? If you don't want to know

00:30:16.380 you pray to the father because, or you pray to God because God wants you,

00:30:22.720 God commands us to pray and worship him because that's what we're supposed to do.

00:30:26.560 But if, if, if, why pray to him, if, if it's not to know him as a waste of time,

00:30:33.680 I guess you become closer through prayer, but you will never really know God the way that God

00:30:42.680 knows us. I don't know that me, you will never be able to communicate and understand God the way

00:30:52.660 that God understands us because we are God's creation. Like we will never be able to, to have

00:30:58.000 that same, that mutual understanding that we can have with other people.

00:31:01.680 Do you believe that you are your thoughts? You create thoughts?

00:31:06.540 Yes.

00:31:07.500 You create your own thoughts?

00:31:11.640 Most of them. There's a lot of outside information that affects your thoughts, but I tried to create

00:31:16.700 everything that I think.

00:31:17.940 How do you create thoughts personally? How do you create them?

00:31:21.200 What are your steps to creating them?

00:31:25.680 Analyzing where the information that I have comes from, why I believe the things I believe,

00:31:31.680 being very critical of everybody I'm around and trying to put the best information into my mind.

00:31:39.920 And so, so you create your own thoughts. Why would you create thoughts that would bring you fear?

00:31:45.860 In terms of fear and God?

00:31:49.880 No, fear within yourself. You know how you have fear? Why would you create thoughts that would bring

00:31:55.680 you fear?

00:31:57.260 That's a good point. I guess those thoughts you try to, you try to quell them as much as possible,

00:32:03.080 but they're always going to be there.

00:32:04.600 But if you create them, why are they there? Why do you even bother to create thoughts that would bring

00:32:09.760 you fear? Why not create them since you're in control of creating your own thoughts?

00:32:15.740 Well, you're right that you don't, you're not in control of all of your thoughts. Some of them

00:32:19.080 are external and, but we do our best to create the best reality and create the best thoughts we can.

00:32:25.500 But a lot of them are external.

00:32:26.900 And who create the internal thoughts?

00:32:30.260 Who created eternal thoughts?

00:32:31.920 Did you say external or internal?

00:32:34.840 External thoughts are going to give you fear.

00:32:38.680 Amazing. Do you believe that you can live a life without fear, period?

00:32:43.960 If it, no, let me ask you this way. Do you believe you can live life without fear at all?

00:32:51.460 Yes, I think those people are sociopaths. I think those are the people that end up

00:32:55.300 shooting up a school or end up doing insanely crazy things. I think that you need to fear God.

00:33:01.420 Of course, you can live without fear, but then you're going to die.

00:33:04.320 But then you're going to end up drunk somewhere.

00:33:05.900 The people who are committing those types of crimes are doing it out of fear.

00:33:10.720 They're not doing it because they don't have fear. They're doing it because they do have fear.

00:33:17.680 I guess there's always going to be some fear, but the best thing to fear is God,

00:33:23.480 because you can't control God. So you should be able to, everything that you are in control of,

00:33:29.380 you should not let it instill fear into your mind.

00:33:32.880 The one thing that you cannot control is God, so that's the one thing you should fear.

00:33:38.440 And you said you do have anger, right?

00:33:41.700 Yes.

00:33:42.180 Is it normal for a man to have anger?

00:33:45.320 Completely.

00:33:46.360 Any man that has anger is a woman. 1.00

00:33:50.800 Explain.

00:33:53.940 Let me ask this for you.

00:33:55.440 If you can overcome fear, period, would you want to overcome it?

00:34:00.080 Overcome fear? Yes.

00:34:01.560 You got to forgive your mother.

00:34:04.640 Your mother imposed her will on you,

00:34:07.540 and you resent her for that.

00:34:09.200 And you become like what you resent.

00:34:12.320 And when you became angry at your mother,

00:34:14.960 you became like her.

00:34:16.300 You have her mindset and her emotions.

00:34:19.460 All men hate their mothers, and the women too, the girls. 0.52

00:34:24.140 And they become like what they hate,

00:34:25.800 and they pass it on from generation to generation.

00:34:27.980 And if you realize that just as you can't help yourself but have fear and have anger,

00:34:35.260 your mother couldn't help herself because she resents her mother. 0.94

00:34:38.900 And she imposed that on you, and now you become like her.

00:34:43.640 And a man is not supposed to have fear because of the order of God and Christ,

00:34:49.060 Christ and man, man over woman, woman over children. 0.96

00:34:52.720 Men are supposed to lead women. 1.00

00:34:54.180 But if you have the mindset, the woman become your God, 0.99

00:34:58.960 and men are subject to women because Satan is the woman's God, 0.51

00:35:03.780 and the woman is the man's God because of that broken order. 1.00

00:35:09.420 When Eve listened to Satan, she took on his nature

00:35:14.360 and no longer listened to her husband.

00:35:17.240 And when Adam listened to Eve, he took on the woman's nature 0.97

00:35:21.700 and no longer listened to his father.

00:35:24.020 It changed their order.

00:35:25.800 But when you forgive your mother and your father for not protecting you from your mother

00:35:31.400 because he can't handle your mother, he's married to his mama, 0.78

00:35:34.200 you become attracted to what you hate.

00:35:36.340 But when you forgive them, God will forgive you,

00:35:40.180 and he will take away the mama's spirit, which is of the devil, 0.61

00:35:43.520 and he will give you back your natural self.

00:35:45.940 And that's when you can really start living without fear.

00:35:49.100 You have the right kind of energy.

00:35:50.840 You have perfect love energy.

00:35:53.920 And in perfect love, there is no fear.

00:35:56.880 And you'll be able to deal with every situation without being moved by it at all.

00:36:00.920 But you've got to forgive your mother.

00:36:02.840 How do you forgive your mother?

00:36:04.380 By telling her that I'm sorry for resenting you.

00:36:07.380 First, you get to know yourself,

00:36:09.220 and you see that you are not in control.

00:36:11.660 There's something else that's controlling you.

00:36:13.840 It makes you think and do things that you wouldn't ordinarily think and do.

00:36:17.380 And realize that the anger that you have from your mother brought that on.

00:36:22.940 And going for, hey, mother, I'm sorry for resenting you.

00:36:25.900 I realize now that I have become just like you and that you can't help yourself.

00:36:31.520 I'm sorry for resenting you.

00:36:33.200 Don't ask for forgiveness.

00:36:35.840 You forgive her, and God will forgive you because women don't forgive. 1.00

00:36:39.160 And your mother will take that and try to use it against you to control you. 1.00

00:36:44.520 But once you apologize for resenting her, God will forgive you,

00:36:50.440 and he will take that away from you, and you'll become a free man.

00:36:54.460 And you can live on this earth with perfect love,

00:36:57.500 and nobody or nothing can ever get to you.

00:37:00.180 And you will operate with perfect peace.

00:37:02.680 How did you figure this out, and at what age did you forgive your mother?

00:37:05.680 At 38, and I asked God to let me see myself because I had all that emotional stuff, too.

00:37:10.540 I lived in my imagination, and I had this false idea that success and friends and family

00:37:18.360 and everything would bring me peace, and it only made life worse.

00:37:22.160 Only God can give you peace, and that comes when you forgive.

00:37:27.440 You got to forgive your mother.

00:37:28.640 What do you think would happen if you went to your mother and apologized for resenting her

00:37:34.640 for turning you away from your father?

00:37:40.480 I think that I wouldn't believe it, and I want to say that because you've explained that

00:37:45.700 in a way that makes a lot of sense, and I think a lot of men can relate to.

00:37:48.800 But I don't think I fully mean it if I had said it yet.

00:37:52.400 So it's something that I need to sit with and think about more before I do it.

00:37:56.700 That makes sense.

00:37:57.640 You should see it for yourself, not just because I said it, because once you see it

00:38:02.600 for yourself, that's why we need to know ourself, know thyself, right?

00:38:07.060 When you see it for yourself, then you'll be able to go and forgive her because you will

00:38:12.240 see that, yes, she did this to you, but you're wrong for resenting her because by resenting

00:38:18.420 her, you're bringing this upon yourself.

00:38:20.000 And you can overcome it by forgiving her, but you have to see it for yourself.

00:38:26.220 And the kingdom of heaven is inside of you, and you will enter into that kingdom, and you

00:38:32.900 will no longer look outside for the answer because everything that you're looking for,

00:38:38.660 everything that you are, everything you need to become is already inside of you.

00:38:43.380 You just need to live from within and stop looking on the outside because you can gain

00:38:49.280 all the wealth in the whole right world.

00:38:51.660 You can become the richest man on this side of heaven.

00:38:54.060 You still won't have peace.

00:38:56.320 You become the richest man on this side of heaven.

00:38:58.900 You will still have fear.

00:39:00.660 You will still have doubt.

00:39:02.020 You will still have worries.

00:39:04.140 But once you forgive and start living from within, you will no longer have those things.

00:39:09.920 They will all disappear, and the whole earth will belong to you. 0.99

00:39:14.660 You are the world.

00:39:16.400 Each individual is the world, not the physical world out there, but you are the world.

00:39:21.140 But you can't get it until you forgive.

00:39:23.960 Islam is not going to do that for you. 1.00

00:39:27.580 Christianity is not going to do that for you.

00:39:32.740 No religion can do it.

00:39:34.440 The kingdom of heaven is within.

00:39:36.340 Only forgiveness will set you free.

00:39:38.640 By apologizing for resenting her.

00:39:43.060 And then, because it's abnormal for men, any man that has anger is a woman. 0.83

00:39:47.400 So when you get with a woman, it's just going to be two women fighting one another. 0.99

00:39:52.340 Trying to get power.

00:39:54.280 It's all ego.

00:39:55.960 Ego is of the devil.

00:39:57.540 You want to be free from ego, and you want to walk by the light.

00:40:03.460 Perfect love from within, and not the ego.

00:40:06.160 Anyone that has ego is evil. 0.99

00:40:07.800 The ego must die. 1.00

00:40:10.380 You don't want to live by ego.

00:40:12.800 And the light of God will kill the ego, which is of the devil, in the mind and emotions.

00:40:20.320 You notice how sometimes you feel good, and then sometimes you feel bad, and then sometimes you feel good, and sometimes you feel bad.

00:40:28.560 You're like up and down.

00:40:29.500 All that stuff is ego.

00:40:31.800 All that emotional love is hate.

00:40:33.840 It's not love.

00:40:34.820 That's why it doesn't last.

00:40:36.500 God is a dispassionate God.

00:40:38.680 He's not a passionate God. 0.83

00:40:40.340 Satan is a passionate evil God. 0.98

00:40:43.420 Not a real God, but a fake God. 0.95

00:40:45.460 God is dispassionate.

00:40:47.160 Satan is passionate.

00:40:48.040 So anyone that is passionate about anything are really saying to you that they are evil.

00:40:53.140 So how do you find the motivation to do what you need to do?

00:40:57.560 Because I've found that ego and self-belief has carried a lot of the energy I needed to make me successful.

00:41:08.460 But that's a fake energy.

00:41:11.000 When you go and forgive your mother and forgive your father for not protecting you from your mother, God is going to give you his energy.

00:41:18.340 It is a natural energy, and it's amazing.

00:41:22.200 It is just natural, and it's greater than this false energy that you're getting now.

00:41:28.280 The up and down energy is false.

00:41:30.720 God's energy is forever.

00:41:32.660 It's light unto your feet.

00:41:34.280 It's natural.

00:41:35.020 You would never, it's just natural.

00:41:38.600 It's not up and down.

00:41:39.740 You will have God's energy, and his energy is real.

00:41:43.640 So do you think somebody like Khabib, for example, one of the most successful UFC fighters of all time, also extremely God-fearing,

00:41:50.900 do you think that he operates and he trains without ego?

00:41:56.700 Repeat that.

00:41:58.160 Do you think that Khabib, the undefeated UFC fighter, right?

00:42:01.560 Right.

00:42:01.940 He's a Muslim.

00:42:02.800 He's a perfect Muslim. 1.00

00:42:04.140 Well, not perfect, but he doesn't sleep around.

00:42:07.940 He doesn't do drugs.

00:42:08.900 He's a good example of somebody who just practices a religion and fights all the time. 1.00

00:42:14.180 I guarantee you, without a doubt, he doesn't have peace.

00:42:19.480 I guarantee you.

00:42:20.420 And he's using anger energy to fight to make himself feel better.

00:42:23.760 But when he's alone, he's lonely, he's afraid, he is sad, he's lost.

00:42:31.560 And so he fights to try to cover that up.

00:42:33.640 But a man that has peace can go into a ring with him and knock him out in a second.

00:42:38.420 Because the man with peace is conscious.

00:42:41.300 He's living in the present and not in an illusion of a past or a future, but he's living in the present where God is.

00:42:49.700 And when you live in the present, you can see.

00:42:51.780 And so the man that has peace would knock this person.

00:42:55.400 I don't know who that person is anyway, but he would knock him out in a second because this guy is fighting in the dark, whereas the man of peace fighting in the light.

00:43:03.320 Who's a good example of somebody who has let go of their ego and forgiven his mother?

00:43:12.280 Jesus Christ.

00:43:14.900 What about a mortal man?

00:43:17.480 What about a mortal man?

00:43:18.860 Because Christians believe that Jesus is superior, is God. 0.98

00:43:23.340 Is there an example of a mortal man who is forgiven?

00:43:27.340 I have forgiven and I meet men and women around the world, men and women, who go and forgive their mothers.

00:43:34.220 Most of them didn't know that they needed to forgive their mothers.

00:43:38.040 And they go and forgive mama because mama made them think that.

00:43:42.600 Mama made them think that it's the father that's the problem, but the mother is the problem. 0.85

00:43:47.780 And she pretended to be victim, right?

00:43:50.140 She played a victim.

00:43:51.340 She pretended dad was the bad guy when she was the evil one doing it to the father, driving him nuts. 0.72

00:43:56.460 But because he hadn't overcome his mother, he worshiped her, too.

00:44:02.360 He tried to get something that women don't have, and that is love, right? 0.98

00:44:06.020 The love comes from the man that comes from God.

00:44:09.120 And so I know men and women, I meet them around the country now.

00:44:12.920 I counsel with them.

00:44:13.760 They attend the meetings and things.

00:44:15.500 And they go and forgive.

00:44:17.160 They become patient, free, inwardly, men and women.

00:44:22.920 I've never heard this broken down like that.

00:44:25.100 You really surprised me with this information.

00:44:27.060 Does it make sense a little bit?

00:44:28.960 It makes complete sense.

00:44:30.380 And you know why it makes sense?

00:44:33.540 No.

00:44:34.380 God is allowing you to see it from within.

00:44:37.340 It's not me.

00:44:38.400 I'm just bringing you the message.

00:44:40.480 But only God can call you to see the truth.

00:44:44.760 And that's what it means to know God when you're able to see.

00:44:49.720 Now you can see.

00:44:51.260 And when you go and forgive your mother, hey, mother, I'm sorry for resenting you.

00:44:54.720 Because anyone that has anger is playing God.

00:44:58.260 And you're not able to know him when you play him because you're judging and you're insecure.

00:45:05.620 But you can see where I'm coming from because you want the truth.

00:45:10.740 That's why you were a Christian.

00:45:12.400 You became a Muslim.

00:45:13.600 You're looking for the truth.

00:45:15.440 And now you've found it.

00:45:16.900 All you have to do now is go and forgive.

00:45:19.640 And the rest is easy.

00:45:21.240 You'll start living from within instead of without.

00:45:24.460 And you'll still be able to make your money.

00:45:26.380 You'll be able to run your business.

00:45:27.580 But you won't identify with it.

00:45:30.380 It won't be an identity.

00:45:32.380 It will be something that you do.

00:45:34.500 But it won't be you.

00:45:36.360 You are not your job.

00:45:39.380 You're not your money.

00:45:40.920 You're not things.

00:45:43.660 You're not your body.

00:45:44.540 You're not your mind.

00:45:46.180 You are a spirit created in the image of God.

00:45:49.840 And your mother turned you away from that when she turned you away from your father.

00:45:54.020 You must forgive so you can find.

00:45:55.980 Now, he's with you already.

00:45:58.100 That's why you can see where I'm coming from.

00:46:00.200 And also, I want you to give my silent prayer a chance.

00:46:03.460 Let me know what you think about that.

00:46:05.480 www.silentprayer.video

00:46:08.360 www.silentprayer.video 0.96

00:46:12.840 You can still do your little Muslim thing. 1.00

00:46:15.620 Go out there and hoop and holler to Allah. 0.96

00:46:19.020 And when you're done, be still and know God.

00:46:22.040 Because right now, he's with you.

00:46:24.460 That's why you see where I'm coming from.

00:46:26.760 And you're seeing it from within.

00:46:29.360 So how do you define the self?

00:46:31.540 If it's not what you do or what you provide or what you give, if it's not your job or it's not your accomplishments, then how do you define the self?

00:46:40.040 There is no self.

00:46:42.900 Everything you see about yourself is an illusion.

00:46:46.060 The real you will appear when the far you disappear.

00:46:49.900 You got to get rid of all this ego.

00:46:54.880 And the light of God will destroy the darkness, which is the ego.

00:46:58.540 I'm so out of time, man.

00:47:00.480 Do the silent prayer, www.silentprayer.com.

00:47:03.680 And we can talk some more.

00:47:06.460 Okay.

00:47:06.800 I'll check it out.

00:47:07.520 Go and face your mama, boy. 0.96

00:47:08.880 I need to think about this a little bit more, but I think you make some good points.

00:47:14.760 Right on.

00:47:15.340 It was amazing talking to you, man.

00:47:18.020 I really appreciate this conversation, Jesse.

00:47:19.960 You're welcome.

00:47:20.560 We'll talk again, all right?

00:47:21.880 All right.

00:47:22.420 Thank you.

00:47:22.800 Okay.

00:47:23.460 I am so out of time, folks.

00:47:25.520 Mike from Los Angeles.

00:47:27.380 Jan from First Time Callout, Ohio.

00:47:30.240 Alex, First Time Callout in New York.

SNEAKO - July 05, 2023

＂Forgive your mother!＂ Jesse Lee Peterson VS. SNEAKO

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