SNEAKO - SNEAKO & Muslim Lantern Educate Demisux On Religion

00:00:00 oh we can call her and then uh and then call you should get some sleep after after we call

00:00:06 her no that's fine we can get some a bit more time i'll let you know if you want i definitely

00:00:11 look tired maybe because you came from there but fadger woke us up a bit yeah no no fadger 0.81

00:00:17 always giving us energy as they say yeah energizing us hello hey demi how you doing

00:00:25 i'm doing phenomenal how are you not bad oh this is your friend uh this is my friend muhammad ali

00:00:35 um turn the camera on do you have a sweater muhammad ali yes so the boxer yeah i'm just the

00:00:42 clone oh the boxer i didn't even think of the boxer hello how are you how was the gym the gym was

00:00:50 phenomenal how was your day i didn't go to the gym i went to dinner but uh my day is pretty good i

00:00:58 actually slept 17 hours that's what girls say when they turn off the location i was just gonna say

00:01:03 we know what that's code for yeah yeah i knew it nobody sleeps 17 hours it's okay we're not in a

00:01:09 relationship if you were whatever you're doing perks remember i told you did you actually take

00:01:13 percocet no okay i'm not i take something to help my sleep and it made me sleep like 17 hours

00:01:22 what did you take melatonin okay so that's good to hear so this is my friend um muhammad ali on

00:01:30 youtube he goes by the muslim lantern uh she so demi called me the other day she had some questions

00:01:35 about islam yeah so um i i go to to him sometimes when i have questions and advice and uh he i'm the

00:01:40 guy who brainwashed him basically right yes people say he was brainwashed i'm the one who did the

00:01:45 one of them yeah shake with man but he helped see um yeah he's joking around but he helped me um he

00:01:52 helps me sometimes and advise me sometimes when i have questions about and also i had a similar

00:01:55 situation before where do you know steve will do it yeah he came asking about god and um in a similar

00:02:04 situation i could have done a better job uh i should have brought in that situation i could

00:02:09 have done uh i ended up kind of not ambushing him but in a sense yeah anyway anyway so if you have

00:02:15 any questions about islam i think it'd be um it'd be good to speak to him if you um if you're interested

00:02:19 well i don't really have any questions i was just more so like trying to learn some stuff because a lot

00:02:29 of people thought that i didn't like people who were muslim because of my comment but did you see

00:02:33 the clip that she's referring to what comment was that well i just said i was talking to my friend

00:02:40 on discord because we were playing like called you together and then i just said as a joke like

00:02:46 somebody in chat said oh he's trying to help you to get into heaven or something in my chat and i was

00:02:52 like i'm going to heaven because i'm christian okay but you know who i'm not gonna see there

00:02:57 and then i said muslims but i said that as a joke because i was just joking even though it's not

00:03:04 funny but yeah i offended a lot of people by saying that but technically me being a christian i believe

00:03:10 that right all christians believe that well i wouldn't be offended by you saying that unless

00:03:16 actually i did right because you have like if you saw me eating bacon you'd be like oh she's

00:03:22 going to hell no right no i wouldn't do that no i wouldn't do that but but still i don't see an

00:03:28 issue like with the statement you made like to just say okay like in your belief essentially that

00:03:34 you're a christian therefore you don't you believe you'll be in heaven uh which is what christians

00:03:38 believe if you believe jesus died for your sins that you're saved right you have salvation and then

00:03:43 you say okay according to your belief that muslims are not going to be in that same place 1.00

00:03:46 not going to be in heaven right uh so you're not going to see that but you said it in a joking way

00:03:50 maybe that's what offended people right but i'll say that uh i'll be honest that's not one of the

00:03:55 things that would be like okay yeah let's you know get upset about over this and you know cancel as

00:04:00 they say like like this guy over here or something cancel this individual she got canceled she definitely

00:04:05 got no no no but some i wouldn't say that but yeah it depends unless you said something else

00:04:10 there's more context to it what you told me so far i i don't see like a big issue with it

00:04:15 but yeah so you believe you're going to heaven i'm really surprised you do believe you're going

00:04:19 to heaven though you're surprised no no yeah yeah i am i'll tell you in a second why but you do believe

00:04:24 you're going to heaven i'm scared um yeah because i've accepted jesus christ into my heart okay and i

00:04:33 believe that most things that i like do i can get what it's called like redemption for like if i

00:04:41 just what is it called the word you're saying repentance she wants to say repentance repentance

00:04:48 there you go yes okay but what is the repentance jesus forgives right he always forgives who forgives

00:04:54 jesus jesus forgives jesus but that but that makes no sense though but can i ask you do you believe

00:05:01 that jesus died for your sins yes does that include the past and future sins

00:05:07 past my past no all everyone's past and future sins essentially he died for the sins of humanity

00:05:16 right so why would you repent is forgiven well because i know i shouldn't there's like right right

00:05:27 and wrong things and i'm obviously going to continue to sin okay and if i do sin and i mess up i know that

00:05:34 he would forgive me because how do you know that because okay it's the go i'm all right i'm gonna say

00:05:44 that if jesus died for the sins of humanity past and present then that means that there is no more sins

00:05:52 to be forgiven because he died for them already everyone is forgiven so if i commit a sin it's

00:05:58 already included in what jesus died for so i don't need to repent according to christianity then

00:06:01 yeah but i mean then that's to say that everyone would just do shitty things exactly and i believe

00:06:10 that's why a lot of people do shitty things all the time and then they just say jesus died for my sins

00:06:14 i'm going to heaven no there's a difference though okay what's the difference like i could

00:06:19 accidentally just mess up because i'm human and i just frick up but i know like sometimes what is it

00:06:28 um like humans what do they have in themselves like they just give into temptation or they have 0.93

00:06:32 temptation desires yeah yes yeah desires all that shit and like obviously you're just gonna have a 0.82

00:06:39 moment of weakness and you just mess up and you just accidentally gave into it but like if you do it 0.97

00:06:44 knowing like i feel like you you knew what we what you were doing was wrong and then you do it

00:06:51 anyways i mean you could sit there and say that jesus is gonna freak you but you also know that

00:06:56 you're doing something wrong but everyone was doing something wrong almost everyone is doing something

00:07:02 wrong they know they're doing something wrong in in very rare cases in situations unless they're

00:07:06 clinically insane yeah yeah you know you already you know you're doing something wrong when that

00:07:11 something when when the person is doing something wrong they know this is wrong but they still do

00:07:15 i mean i've also heard that it's not about intention so i guess you're right but like okay so if i said

00:07:23 i'm a christian today i'll do whatever i want jesus died for the sins i already believe he's the lord and

00:07:28 all of this stuff okay but i'm gonna do whatever i want to do then what is the issue because he died for

00:07:32 the sins yeah but it's all about i mean if you live that way then i'm going to live that way and

00:07:42 at the end of your life you know you're gonna get judged and if you've genuinely felt that way then

00:07:49 that's up to you and him but i don't think that i live my way that or my life that way so but judge judge

00:07:56 for what i'm trying to to get it because the sins are already forgiven right so what am i going to be

00:08:01 judged for but maybe it's past and present i don't know i'm just okay just think about that

00:08:08 it's something i'm putting so how does it work in islam you guys are putting me no no no no i want 0.79

00:08:15 you to ask as well i i just found it the reason i told you that is because i hear a lot of christians

00:08:20 saying we're going to heaven and surprisingly when i read the bible i saw that the bible says all the

00:08:25 christians most christians if not all the christians today are in reality they do not know jesus

00:08:30 and they don't really believe in jesus in the right way how if you read the bible first john

00:08:37 right chapter three it mentions that uh anyone who sins have not known jesus or seen him

00:08:44 if you continue in sin you're not a real christian essentially you're a child of the devil

00:08:50 and it says whoever that has jesus in him he cannot sin so i'm thinking okay if the bible says that and

00:08:58 the christians say it says whoever is born of god cannot commit sin it says that word for word you

00:09:03 can open it by the way right now and read it you want to open it up and actually read it i don't

00:09:07 have the bible oh no no him you don't own a bible i'm just kidding i do wait let's actually have a

00:09:12 wait i feel like that's weird if i do that no go get it go get it anyways oh you can open it up you

00:09:17 can open it up you can open it up and maybe share the screen or something if you want is it far

00:09:21 away um you don't have a bible okay now i have to prove that i have one okay all right there she

00:09:26 goes look at her go see good sweater she put on a good sweater we should keep it a little lower yeah 0.99

00:09:32 don't don't try to go you know a little lower i forgot you had the headphones on my headphones on

00:09:38 i thought you walked away no he he feels i'm a bit maybe like the direct to direct with you or

00:09:44 something that's how he feels yeah oh no i don't mind yeah i'm a twitter kick streamer i have

00:09:50 i face a lot already as it is okay what that is going to john yeah yeah that is going to be the

00:09:59 last question by the way because i don't want to put you on the bible you can ask me anything

00:10:03 about islam if you like yeah it's for one john 0.98

00:10:05 which is first john basically one john chapter three i believe go to verse four i think start from

00:10:15 um i don't really know where it is in the bible so let me open yeah so like the letters of peter

00:10:22 one john etc if you go new testament towards the end new testament new testament yeah not the old

00:10:27 testament new testament yeah i saw peter oh i found it okay

00:10:33 also i think it'd be good she wants to learn more about islam as well so let's try to

00:10:41 yeah yeah of course i'm gonna get into islam after this right after this

00:10:45 you're scaring me no this is like a test its own right now finding this thing

00:10:54 yeah we can we can let it go then we can move on from it if it's difficult too difficult to find

00:10:59 people can do research on it later it's not which is that king james which version of the bible

00:11:04 am i looking for it's one john chapter three oh is that one john are we good yeah is it that's the

00:11:12 king james version um whichever one whichever one is okay it's whichever one is okay it's one john

00:11:20 uh chapter three then you have verse four can you read what verse four says

00:11:27 chad i've never seen you move this fast how can someone be born when they are old that one

00:11:38 uh you have first john chapter three wait there's still there's two johns

00:11:46 yeah there is first one john there is two john i'm opening the glossary

00:11:52 it's okay it's just yeah i think you can move or can move away from from this it's okay people can

00:11:57 just do research on it unless you really want to read it it's up to you i really do want to read

00:12:02 it okay all right yeah you can find it no problem i will find it and we will continue this just give

00:12:09 me some time no problem i'm rotating right now what is one

00:12:15 why doesn't it say what page it starts on so it's this one basically yeah okay let's just read it

00:12:24 okay yeah read it oh why are you closing it i'm just opening it i'm just opening the link right

00:12:30 one second here let's let's get the full thing you can read it if you want read from four

00:12:36 if you go to four this is a christian website right bible gateway okay uh first john chapter three

00:12:43 you read from verse four everyone who sins breaks the law in fact sin is lawlessness but you know

00:12:50 that he appeared so that he might take away our sins and in him is no sin no one who lives in him

00:12:55 keeps on sinning no one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him so the people continue

00:12:59 continue it's not done it's actually i know where you're gonna go more detailed it's actually more

00:13:03 detailed yeah dear children do not let anyone who leads you astray the one who does what is right

00:13:07 and righteous just as he is righteous the one who does what is sinful is of the devil because the devil

00:13:12 has been sinning from the beginning the reason the son of god appeared was to destroy the devil's

00:13:16 work no one who is born of god will continue to sin because god's seed remains in them they cannot go

00:13:22 on sinning because they have been born of god this is how we know who the children of god are and who

00:13:26 the children of the devil are anyone who does not do what is right is not god's child nor is anyone who

00:13:31 does not love their brother and sister i like this the bible is good i like that i agree with this

00:13:36 well most of it but okay yeah so the idea there is basically if if you know jesus and if you're born

00:13:45 of god if you're a child of god you cannot continue to commit any sins because jesus is in you and uh

00:13:50 if you do then that means that you are not a child of god you're a child of the devil so why are you

00:13:55 surprised that demi said that she thinks she's going to go to heaven she's not that that's because i mean

00:13:59 if someone reads the bible and reads these verses and he's committing sins i wouldn't be thinking i'm

00:14:03 going to hell but how is she sitting sorry how was uh demi sitting oh i don't know her personal 0.85

00:14:08 life specifically but i'm saying to from us from a muslim's uh point of view us saying we're going

00:14:15 to heaven is already being boostful in a way right thinking that you've got everything guaranteed that

00:14:20 it doesn't matter okay how do you know what you're gonna die upon right maybe today even if christianity

00:14:24 was the truth and if you die as a christian you go to heaven how do you don't tomorrow you're not

00:14:27 going to become an atheist or something else to say by 100 certainty i'm going to heaven in islam you 0.99

00:14:33 cannot do that if you die as a muslim you go to heaven yes but how do you know you're going to 1.00

00:14:37 die as a muslim yeah but it's not like being literal like you could say like in a week from 0.98

00:14:42 now i'm going to africa but you could die tomorrow yes then you're not going to go to africa yeah 0.92

00:14:49 you're not but how you don't know but yes you're doing everything to get yourself into heaven and

00:14:55 you're practicing everything you're practicing and sure but you can say that yes we want to live it

00:15:01 so that you can eventually ultimately get to heaven yes but i'm yeah i don't know i could

00:15:06 tomorrow just start my villain story and just go crazy and just hopefully that's it don't do that

00:15:12 no i'm not but i'm just saying you know you never know yes so this one that's what i was saying

00:15:17 essentially that's the islamic position is you say okay i'm trying my best of course to go to heaven 0.58

00:15:21 right but we wouldn't say essentially as a muslim i'm going to heaven or we wouldn't also say this

00:15:25 specific person is going to hellfire because if you say a person can change a person can we cannot

00:15:31 say the specific person is going here or there you asked about the sin how is it from the muslim

00:15:35 perspective no one dies for our sins in islam we're responsible for what we do if jesus was innocent 0.90

00:15:40 then how can an innocent person be punished for what i do i should be punished for what i do because

00:15:45 i'm the one who did the evil the innocent person should not be punished for what i did right so how do

00:15:51 you guys believe you guys are gonna get into heaven we're judged for our actions of what we

00:15:55 do and our decisions so you guys are not supposed to eat pork so if you eat pork then what happens

00:16:03 well we're judged accordingly like uh based on everything we do if we do more good deeds than

00:16:07 bad deeds then most likely we're going to to make it to jana yeah so essentially essentially there's

00:16:13 commands of god there's minor sins and major sins if you avoid the the major sins uh allah forget

00:16:19 allah forgives your minor sins uh if you do your obligations you pray you do the things the way

00:16:25 allah commanded you to do them if you do a major sin you can repent repentance means you have to stop

00:16:30 not do it again have no intention of returning to that sin uh tomorrow or next time and have actual

00:16:36 regret in your heart from doing that sin now how do we attain paradise is actually by doing as much

00:16:42 good as we can in that way we when we die we've not done many good we've not done a lot of bad we've

00:16:47 done more good than we did bad and through that we attain god's mercy so god he forgives us because

00:16:53 we did our best and then we go to paradise sounds like very similar to the way i feel like christians

00:17:04 live no no but the difference is like uh and we know a lot of christians like this they'll do a lot

00:17:09 of uh they'll send quite a bit though and at the end of the day it's like oh jesus saves me they'll send

00:17:14 publicly they'll do things that they know are wrong but jesus will save me because i believe

00:17:18 in jesus in my heart of hearts it's not really the judgment of your actions and judging the fact

00:17:22 that we all have free will it's just the professing that jesus will save me is enough to make it into

00:17:28 heaven we don't believe that but if you're only doing good things so that you can make it into

00:17:32 heaven i feel like that also doesn't really sound valid like why else would you do good things like

00:17:38 if i ate pork and that's minus 25 points whatever points yeah and then it's like okay well now i'm

00:17:45 gonna pray three times a day so that i can have plus 75 well he just said that you you can't you

00:17:51 can't pray you can't commit a sin thinking that you're gonna pray at all if you have to actually

00:17:55 regret and you actually have to go forward and not do it again you have to stop doing it what i'm

00:17:59 saying is that if you're only doing it so that you can make it to heaven you're only doing the good

00:18:04 stuff now it's not only going to heaven as well it's not only going to heaven because we as muslims

00:18:10 also of course you have a relationship with god right you love god you want to be connected with

00:18:14 god not only that the greatest reward we get in paradise as muslims is to see god actually

00:18:18 if anything in this life is beautiful then the source of beauty is the creator is god

00:18:23 and what and the greatest reward we believe will get as muslims to actually see god in paradise

00:18:28 so it's not necessarily just that there is of course a connection with god that is there

00:18:33 but these are incentives and human beings work on incentives and work on warnings as well

00:18:37 that's how we function that's why in society you have laws where you have okay you work you get

00:18:41 money as an incentive you do a crime you get a punishment as a as a warning right uh so this is

00:18:48 how we function as human beings right and the creator based on how we are as human beings has

00:18:52 put this in front of us

00:18:53 i agree okay you agree yeah i agree with what he said yeah so you know what about what about god

00:19:06 like how do you see god as muslims for instance we believe is one creator one god we believe that god

00:19:11 is not a man or a woman so we believe allah is not a man or a woman is not restricted by gender that's

00:19:15 why we don't say jesus is god or prophet muhammad is god or moses is god we don't say any human being

00:19:19 is god see god is not is beyond our conception and imagination whatever we can think about

00:19:25 god is beyond that right so you don't picture like a man no picture do you picture do you picture

00:19:33 a man when you picture god well i picture like jesus christ and then like the way that i picture him

00:19:40 is just like how most people perceive him like the man with the long hair and like beard but i know he's

00:19:47 not supposed to be a man like i don't think that they say that about him either even though they

00:19:52 well jesus was a man because if he died then he must have been a man he was mortal i swear i've seen

00:19:57 somewhere where it's like like the way it's phrased in the bible that like do you want to go for

00:20:05 he was a man but like he wasn't a man like he was in the form of a human but he wasn't actually a man

00:20:13 like he was just like yeah so human there is something called the hypostatic union is what

00:20:19 you're talking about the hypostatic union is that they say he's fully man fully god you don't say he

00:20:23 wasn't a man but they say he was two things in one we say from our perspective that doesn't make any

00:20:28 sense to us but but the christian position is that he's 100 man in the same time he's 100 god

00:20:33 the bible says for example or paul in this case he would say there's one intermediate and then he says

00:20:38 the man jesus christ so he calls him a man right so he's called the man explicitly in the bible

00:20:43 uh he's never called god explicitly he never says i'm god in the bible that doesn't occur anywhere but

00:20:50 he is explicitly called the man they do say jesus is the way the truth and the light yeah of course

00:20:55 this is john 14 6 kind of quotation but okay if jesus is the way if i take the way this way here to get

00:21:02 to the mole the way is not the mole is it so if jesus is the way to god then he's not god because he's

00:21:07 the way to god if you're the way the way to something you're not the destination

00:21:11 but he could just be like a particle of him like do you believe god is physical in that sense that

00:21:18 is made of particles and you can have a part that that would be a part of god that would be a heresy

00:21:23 that was just like a synonym yeah whatever metaphor i'm stupid but no no it's not like i think it's just

00:21:32 like wasn't he just i don't know i feel like i don't know enough to speak on this i wish i was

00:21:39 yeah so that's why these conversations are good yeah you see you know in christianity if you say

00:21:44 god is made of parts they call that a heresy this is called partialism right you can google it if

00:21:49 right now if you like it's basically you cannot say god is made of parts god is not like you can

00:21:54 divide him and this part and that part even christians don't yeah even christians no i don't think that

00:21:59 either i think just like i don't even know how to explain it just

00:22:05 like he was just put on earth and then so let me let me ask let me ask a different a different

00:22:14 question maybe right so about the identity of jesus as muslims we believe jesus was chosen by god as a

00:22:19 prophet as a messenger of god to deliver a message to the people about god tell them about god tell them

00:22:24 what is good tell them what is bad to avoid tell them to connect to the creator and worship god

00:22:28 alone just like the other prophets and messengers did this is our position on jesus just like prophet

00:22:33 muhammad did we don't worship prophet muhammad we don't worship any human beings worship the creator 0.92

00:22:37 alone so when you look at jesus for example you picture jesus when you pray

00:22:41 if you picture jesus when you pray as he is god then can god pray to someone else the god that you pray

00:22:49 to is praying to someone else does that make any sense yeah but didn't no other prophet turn water

00:22:56 to wine and all this other stuff the prophets perform miracles yeah do you know of any other

00:23:01 prophet that split the sea other than moses do you know any other prophet who had an ark other than

00:23:05 noah they have unique miracles as prophets well actually noah had the ark yeah this is all these

00:23:13 are the prophets that are in the bible as well and then uh i did i mean in the bible jesus did pray

00:23:18 so if jesus is god who was he who was jesus praying to i wish i knew how to like say what i'm trying to

00:23:26 say but like he was like i feel like he was just trying to live his life like he was human like he did

00:23:34 all things like he tried to be one with how a human person was and then so the prayer was just

00:23:41 an act not an act but like i don't know i feel like just yeah i'll kind of was doing but in like

00:23:54 to understand how humans are yeah the christians essentially say that he took on a human form so

00:24:02 he can relate to the people right he related i'm saying generally what christians generally say i think

00:24:07 that's what you're trying to say as well right is that he took a human form so he can relate to the

00:24:11 creation to the people in a way that is relatable right he's a human like us etc right but the fact

00:24:16 the reason we worship god is because he's not like us the whole reason you worship the creator is

00:24:20 because he's not like us and if the creator ever becomes like us then he's no longer worthy of our

00:24:25 worship because he's a human like us now so if the creator if ever becomes a human being he's no longer

00:24:31 god because whatever we call god is the all-knowing omniscient omnipotent all-powerful all of that

00:24:36 he's no longer god but wouldn't you relate to somebody more who is more like you yes yes yes

00:24:45 some of you yes yes i agree i don't think that's anything that's bad if you love absolutely i agree

00:24:50 with you but that's why allah sends prophets and messengers as humans so we can relate and follow

00:24:54 their example the humans like us that's why even allah says in the quran that we didn't send them an 0.99

00:24:59 angel because if we were to send them an angel they would say that's a perfect being we cannot follow

00:25:03 perfect beings right so allah sent a human being a prophet a messenger and we can imitate and learn

00:25:09 and see they're the best of the human beings we can look at them and imitate their behavior

00:25:13 but god himself i'm saying if he ever turns into anything other than god he's no longer worthy of

00:25:19 our worship like like imagine yeah what what do you uh disagree with that i that last part that like

00:25:30 if he became anything like a human that he wouldn't be why do you worship god let me ask this question

00:25:38 why do you worship god um i don't know because he's died for my sins so you were talking before

00:25:49 about the selfish thing of going to paradise because uh you're doing good to go to paradise but it's the

00:25:54 same thing to say i worship god because he did something for me that for my sins isn't that the same

00:25:58 thing yeah yeah so so what i'm trying to say yeah she's getting distracted it's okay okay 0.66

00:26:07 i'm not i'm just dumb no you're not dumb i mean you're you're smart enough to ask these questions a 0.97

00:26:15 lot of people are yeah are so ignorant they don't even want to go and seek the truth the fact that 0.98

00:26:19 you're even in this position having this conversation proves you're not dumb yeah plus we're like we're not 0.99

00:26:25 looking let's make this clear as well for anyone listening like we're we're not looking at you like 0.88

00:26:29 you are like a christian authority scholar or something like that right and like you're

00:26:33 representing christianity she's a new christian too she's done christianity like seven months yeah

00:26:36 and if you say something wrong now oh we defeated christianity we're not trying to do that it's not

00:26:40 that's not what we're doing right we're just having a conversation it's gonna happen no no no it's

00:26:44 not that's why i'm making it clear from my side not from your side no i'm not saying

00:26:48 either of us are doing this i'm just saying that oh there's definitely a christian chat right now

00:26:53 like why isn't she saying this well because you're new to christianity and you don't know all the

00:26:58 answer and to be honest i've spoken to christians who are like been were born with it and they've done

00:27:02 a lot of studying and they say the same things so i don't even think that your rhetoric is that off

00:27:06 from most christians it's not x there you go okay yeah so so this is like the message of islam is

00:27:17 really simple right it's it's about connecting with god like you believe right it's about connecting

00:27:21 with the creator through the messengers of god that come they give the message to the creation

00:27:26 right we believe jesus we believe in him we believe in the that mary gave the virgin birth we

00:27:31 believe he was the messiah we believe in moses believe in abraham believe in david most of the

00:27:36 prophets that you maybe heard about we believe in them we we don't have we say peace be upon all of

00:27:40 them right and if if a muslim doesn't believe in jesus moses or noah etc he's not a muslim

00:27:46 you have to believe in all of them not just believe say i believe only in prophet muhammad you can't

00:27:50 you have to believe in all of the prophets and messengers of god cannot reject any of them right

00:27:54 and their message was similar that to worship one god alone like jesus taught people to worship

00:27:59 the creator alone not to associate partners with him jesus didn't say to the people come worship me

00:28:03 pray when you pray imagine me picture me he never said to the people that in fact when he taught

00:28:08 people that the prayer the heavenly father prayer our father in heaven he's all about god it's not

00:28:12 about him like his name is not is not mentioned anything about him is not mentioned he doesn't

00:28:17 say to the people pray to me at all he said pray to the creator alone worship him alone and this is

00:28:22 the message of islam same message of prophet muhammad uh alayhi sallallahu alayhi sallam same thing

00:28:26 that's like i never realized that about our father who are in heaven how it be a name

00:28:29 it is all about your kingdom come your it's all that will be done on earth as it is in heaven yeah

00:28:33 that seems like wait so why do you guys worship god that's an excellent question because the creator

00:28:40 has the attributes that are worthy of worship he's the most beautiful when you talk about beauty he's

00:28:45 the most merciful he's the most powerful he's the most wise so we worship him because he created us

00:28:51 he's a creator right he has these perfect attributes that are worthy of worship so if he does not have

00:28:59 these perfect attributes then he's not worthy of worship anymore he's not god whatever we call

00:29:04 god is that when a human being thinks of god he thinks of the that being that has the control over

00:29:09 the creation or everyone the one who gives lives and takes life away the one who knows everything

00:29:14 right the one who protects you this is how what we think when we say god so whoever doesn't have

00:29:18 these attributes will be okay that's not god like that's why you wouldn't worship like a friend of

00:29:23 yours or another human being walking around them in the street you know this is just another human being

00:29:27 like you right that's why we say for for example to other religions okay we ask them okay why would

00:29:32 you worship a cow why would you worship a tree why would you worship an idol these are things that

00:29:36 are made that are created that are like you in a way right what would you why would you worship these

00:29:40 things we say we worship the creator because he's the one worthy of worship so when we look at that's

00:29:45 why as muslims we say you look at we look at jesus or prophet muhammad let's use prophet muhammad as an

00:29:49 example we say prophet muhammad is a human we're humans prophet muhammad is not worthy of our worship 0.96

00:29:54 Only Allah is worthy

00:29:56 The creator

00:29:57 Allah is the Arabic word

00:29:58 For God by the way

00:29:59 That even Christians use 0.99

00:30:01 The Arab Christians use it

00:30:02 Which means the creator

00:30:03 God right

00:30:04 The one who created everything

00:30:05 Which is funny

00:30:05 In the UK right now

00:30:06 They're protesting

00:30:07 Like who

00:30:07 Who is Allah 0.99

00:30:08 Who the fuck 0.99

00:30:09 Allah just means God in Arabic 1.00

00:30:11 Yeah if they went to

00:30:12 Like Egypt or Syria 0.87

00:30:13 Yeah they're the same thing

00:30:14 As um

00:30:14 Yash

00:30:16 No way

00:30:17 Yashwa

00:30:17 Yashwa yeah

00:30:18 Who says that

00:30:19 That way

00:30:20 No so you got

00:30:22 You got for example

00:30:23 Elohim

00:30:23 Adonai

00:30:25 All of these are Hebrew words

00:30:26 Yeah yeah

00:30:27 Adonai Elohim

00:30:28 All of these are Hebrew words

00:30:29 That are referenced to God as well

00:30:31 Right

00:30:31 You use them to refer to God

00:30:33 Yes

00:30:33 Or if you speak Spanish

00:30:34 You will say Dios for example

00:30:36 If you speak

00:30:36 Depends

00:30:37 If you speak maybe Japanese

00:30:38 You will say Kami 0.99

00:30:39 It depends which word you use

00:30:41 In the different language

00:30:42 But all of them mean the same thing

00:30:43 They just mean God right

00:30:44 Well you refer to the creator

00:30:45 The one who created everything

00:30:46 But

00:30:47 Yeah

00:30:48 So the one that we believe

00:30:50 Is worthy of worship

00:30:51 Is that

00:30:52 Because he's the one who made us

00:30:53 And he's the one who will judge us

00:30:54 You mentioned judgment

00:30:55 A human being is not going to judge me

00:30:57 Because he's also going to die

00:30:58 He's going to be in his grave

00:30:59 He cannot resurrect himself

00:31:01 The creator is the one who will resurrect everyone

00:31:03 And he will bring them to judgment

00:31:05 He's the one who will hold people accountable

00:31:08 Because he's all powerful

00:31:10 He's able to punish people

00:31:11 He's able to reward people

00:31:14 He's able to be merciful and forgive people

00:31:16 Because these are his attributes

00:31:17 But without any of that

00:31:19 Then that thing

00:31:20 Whatever that thing is

00:31:21 That doesn't have these attributes

00:31:22 That lacks these attributes

00:31:23 Is no longer worthy of worship

00:31:25 That's why I believe Jesus

00:31:26 Was worshipping that creator

00:31:28 So in Matthew for example 26

00:31:32 When he went in the garden of Gethsemane

00:31:33 He fell on his face

00:31:35 Like by the way

00:31:36 This is how Muslims pray 0.99

00:31:37 You fall on your face 0.99

00:31:38 And he prayed

00:31:40 To God all night

00:31:41 And he said

00:31:44 Oh God take the crucifixion away from me

00:31:45 He doesn't want to be crucified

00:31:46 And can you imagine God saying

00:31:49 To I don't know to who

00:31:51 Take the crucifixion away from me

00:31:53 Yeah

00:31:55 No I can't

00:31:58 Yeah

00:31:58 I mean I

00:31:58 But I mean I could at the same time

00:32:01 Because that's

00:32:02 My beliefs right

00:32:04 Yeah

00:32:06 Yeah it's just

00:32:08 Look it's just something to think about right

00:32:09 All of this is just

00:32:10 Some things to consider

00:32:12 Some things to think about right

00:32:13 When someone is reading the Bible

00:32:15 And he sees for instance

00:32:16 These verses about Jesus

00:32:17 He doesn't know something

00:32:18 Right

00:32:19 He says no one knows the hour

00:32:20 Except God

00:32:21 Who he refers to as the Father

00:32:23 He says no one knows the day and the hour

00:32:25 Not the angels in heaven

00:32:26 Not the Son

00:32:27 Then he says only the Father knows

00:32:29 So if only the Father knows

00:32:31 Then how can I say Jesus is God

00:32:33 When he's saying something else knows

00:32:35 What he doesn't know

00:32:36 Right

00:32:37 So then Christians say 0.98

00:32:39 But they're all one

00:32:40 The Trinity

00:32:41 You know you heard probably about the Trinity

00:32:42 But if they're all one

00:32:44 How can one know and one doesn't know

00:32:45 I thought they're all one

00:32:46 Because

00:32:49 He came in the form of a human

00:32:51 And he

00:32:52 So who was

00:32:54 Who was he praying to up in heaven

00:32:56 If he came in

00:32:57 But she said earlier

00:32:58 She's acting like he's 0.65

00:33:00 A human to relate to humans

00:33:01 No no but I'm saying

00:33:02 Yeah

00:33:03 So what was on earth

00:33:04 Was it God

00:33:05 Or was it something else

00:33:06 Because like if he knew

00:33:07 If he just had all like

00:33:09 The power

00:33:09 In the form of a human

00:33:11 Then he would have just

00:33:13 Like not made things happen

00:33:16 Or like

00:33:17 You know what I mean

00:33:17 He would have just been 1.00

00:33:18 Casting shit 0.99

00:33:19 And like 0.99

00:33:19 Doing things

00:33:21 Like just fixing things

00:33:23 But weren't you just before

00:33:24 Talking about the miracles

00:33:25 Weren't you talking about

00:33:26 The miracles he was doing before

00:33:27 Like

00:33:28 Yes

00:33:29 That's to

00:33:30 That was to get

00:33:31 Some people on board

00:33:32 Right

00:33:32 To know like

00:33:33 Oh okay

00:33:34 Like he actually

00:33:35 He's like that

00:33:37 Yeah he's like that

00:33:38 Yeah

00:33:38 So it

00:33:39 Yeah so all the prophets of God

00:33:41 Did these miracles

00:33:42 But it wasn't them

00:33:43 Because they're God

00:33:44 But because God was doing it

00:33:46 Through them

00:33:46 But I just want to understand

00:33:48 From your perspective

00:33:49 When he was walking

00:33:51 In your mind

00:33:52 Do you think that

00:33:52 This was God walking

00:33:53 Or this was something

00:33:55 That wasn't God

00:33:56 God was somewhere else

00:33:57 No I think that was

00:34:00 So that was God walking

00:34:01 You're saying that

00:34:01 They're not supposed to think

00:34:03 That the most part

00:34:04 But I just think like

00:34:06 Like he could just have

00:34:08 A spawn right

00:34:09 Or you're not supposed

00:34:11 To think that

00:34:12 A spawn

00:34:12 I don't know

00:34:13 But that

00:34:13 Like he just like

00:34:15 A creation

00:34:15 Like

00:34:16 Yeah like he just had

00:34:17 Not a part of him

00:34:18 But like him in human form

00:34:20 And like he was

00:34:21 He did pretty much

00:34:23 Everything

00:34:24 To come up as like

00:34:26 A human

00:34:26 And all this stuff

00:34:27 And then

00:34:28 Everything

00:34:29 Led into

00:34:30 Him dying

00:34:31 Like he obviously knew

00:34:32 He was gonna die

00:34:34 I mean he didn't

00:34:35 But he did

00:34:36 At the same time

00:34:37 He didn't

00:34:37 He was told by God

00:34:40 He was told by God

00:34:40 You can say

00:34:41 But yeah

00:34:42 But he was told by God

00:34:43 But he was God

00:34:44 But okay

00:34:47 But you know

00:34:48 When he was walking

00:34:49 If you say

00:34:50 Just it's all

00:34:51 To think about right

00:34:52 If he was God

00:34:53 And he was walking

00:34:53 As God on earth

00:34:54 Then who is he

00:34:55 Communicating with

00:34:56 In heaven

00:34:56 Asking help from

00:34:57 From himself

00:34:59 Or from something else

00:35:02 From himself

00:35:04 But in his

00:35:06 True form

00:35:07 Okay so on earth

00:35:10 He was in himself

00:35:11 In his true form

00:35:12 No in human form

00:35:15 Okay so his true form

00:35:17 I don't know what I'm saying

00:35:18 I'm gonna keep it at both

00:35:20 I'm gonna be real

00:35:21 I mean like this is how

00:35:22 All Christians

00:35:23 That I've spoken to

00:35:24 About this

00:35:25 This is how they all

00:35:25 Explain it

00:35:26 It's not

00:35:26 What you're saying 0.99

00:35:27 Is not dumb

00:35:28 What'd you say 0.82

00:35:29 Like they get stuck

00:35:31 Or do they have the

00:35:32 It's the same justification

00:35:33 There's that one guy

00:35:34 What guy

00:35:35 There's that one

00:35:37 Like Christian guy 1.00

00:35:38 Who speaks

00:35:41 Like on the street

00:35:42 And stuff

00:35:42 I feel like he just

00:35:43 Knows everything

00:35:44 I don't know

00:35:46 Who you're talking about

00:35:47 There's no one

00:35:47 You've never seen

00:35:48 That TikToker

00:35:49 He's not a TikToker 0.99

00:35:50 Oh he lectures

00:35:51 College students

00:35:51 And stuff

00:35:52 Yeah

00:35:53 He's a

00:35:54 Isn't he like a preacher

00:35:55 Yeah I mean

00:35:56 They explain it the same way

00:35:57 But you know

00:35:58 In more flowery language

00:35:59 I mean that's what you believe

00:36:01 You believe that

00:36:01 God sent himself

00:36:03 In human form

00:36:04 It's just

00:36:04 But that's

00:36:05 This is why

00:36:06 I never fully resonated

00:36:07 With Christianity 0.99

00:36:08 Growing up

00:36:09 Is because it never

00:36:09 Ever fully made sense to me

00:36:11 Islam makes sense to me

00:36:12 Right

00:36:13 There's nothing wrong

00:36:13 With Christianity 0.99

00:36:14 I think it's

00:36:15 It's much better

00:36:15 To believe in Christianity 0.95

00:36:16 To be an atheist

00:36:17 But I

00:36:18 I feel

00:36:19 Complete

00:36:20 Logic

00:36:21 When I

00:36:21 When I pray

00:36:22 To just the one God

00:36:23 There's nothing

00:36:23 There's no

00:36:24 Holy Spirit

00:36:25 Even though we haven't

00:36:25 Even spoken about that

00:36:26 If we're saying the Trinity

00:36:27 Is these three

00:36:27 Father, Son

00:36:28 Then the Trinity

00:36:29 Should be equal

00:36:30 Then the Holy Spirit

00:36:31 Should be equal

00:36:31 In the Trinity

00:36:31 What is the Holy Spirit

00:36:32 That's something

00:36:33 I never understood

00:36:33 And to this day

00:36:34 Never made sense to me

00:36:36 But is it the Trinity

00:36:36 All one

00:36:37 But it's the Trinity

00:36:38 But it's all one

00:36:39 And all equal as well

00:36:40 So is the Holy Spirit

00:36:41 Equal to God

00:36:42 Is the Son

00:36:43 Equal to the Father

00:36:43 How could a Son

00:36:44 Equal to the Father

00:36:44 I'll tell you the Trinity

00:36:45 And you tell me what you think

00:36:46 Like the Christians say 0.99

00:36:47 By the way

00:36:48 Right

00:36:48 And if you've got Christians 1.00

00:36:49 They can confirm in the chat

00:36:50 Or something

00:36:50 Right

00:36:51 So this is a Trinity

00:36:52 Let's see if they confirm or not

00:36:53 They say

00:36:54 God the Father

00:36:55 God the Son

00:36:57 God the Holy Spirit

00:36:58 The Father is not the Son 0.98

00:37:00 The Son is not the Holy Spirit

00:37:02 Three persons in one being 0.75

00:37:05 And they're co-equal

00:37:07 Meaning they're all equal

00:37:08 With each other

00:37:08 And they're co-eternal

00:37:10 Meaning they're all eternal

00:37:11 In the same way

00:37:11 That's what the Trinity is

00:37:13 Now let's see

00:37:14 If anyone disagrees first

00:37:15 Before I say anything else

00:37:16 No that is a three

00:37:19 Right

00:37:19 That is a description of the Trinity

00:37:22 According to the Creed

00:37:22 The Father is Son

00:37:22 And the Holy Spirit

00:37:23 According to the Creed

00:37:24 Yeah

00:37:27 They're agreeing

00:37:28 The Christians are saying true 1.00

00:37:33 Yes yes

00:37:34 The Christians here

00:37:35 They will agree 0.87

00:37:35 Because it is of course

00:37:36 So if

00:37:37 If I say

00:37:39 God the Father

00:37:40 Okay

00:37:41 God the Son

00:37:43 God the Holy Spirit

00:37:44 The Father is not the Son 0.98

00:37:47 The Son is not the Holy Spirit

00:37:48 Is this one or three

00:37:50 One

00:37:53 This is one

00:37:55 The Father is not the Son 0.98

00:37:57 The Son is not the Holy Spirit

00:37:58 Because

00:38:00 They're all fully God

00:38:03 100% God by themselves

00:38:04 So the Father is 100%

00:38:06 It's fully God

00:38:07 The Son is fully God

00:38:08 Because He's not the Son

00:38:10 But the Son is not the Holy Spirit

00:38:14 But they're all one

00:38:16 Because they're all one

00:38:17 Because one isn't the other

00:38:19 So I'm not you

00:38:20 But

00:38:20 It feels like

00:38:20 Okay

00:38:20 It feels like you could be

00:38:22 One thing

00:38:23 But not the other thing

00:38:24 Right?

00:38:25 What

00:38:26 Can you give me an example of that?

00:38:27 Like I could be

00:38:28 Christian

00:38:31 But I could not be

00:38:32 That doesn't mean I'm Catholic

00:38:34 But we're all Christian

00:38:36 Right?

00:38:37 There you go

00:38:38 Solved it

00:38:39 Easy

00:38:39 Next

00:38:40 But you're saying

00:38:42 Yeah

00:38:42 Okay

00:38:43 I mean

00:38:44 If you're a Christian

00:38:45 But not

00:38:46 If you're a Christian

00:38:47 But not Catholic 1.00

00:38:48 That means Christian

00:38:49 Is different from Catholic 1.00

00:38:50 Right?

00:38:52 Christian isn't being Catholic 1.00

00:38:53 Can you be

00:38:54 Okay

00:38:54 Can you be Christian

00:38:55 But Catholic is Christian

00:38:56 Okay

00:38:57 Sorry?

00:39:00 But being Catholic

00:39:01 Is still being Christian 0.96

00:39:02 So are you Christian and Catholic

00:39:04 Or are you not Christian and Catholic?

00:39:06 I'm not Catholic 0.62

00:39:07 But I'm Christian

00:39:08 So you are Christian

00:39:09 I know what you're going to say now

00:39:12 What am I going to say?

00:39:13 You tell me

00:39:14 Then

00:39:16 So that I'm not

00:39:18 Yes

00:39:18 All of them at the same time

00:39:20 Yes

00:39:21 But

00:39:23 That was just

00:39:25 As an example though

00:39:27 Do you have any other example

00:39:30 That would work

00:39:30 In reality?

00:39:31 No

00:39:32 Because you could be Christian

00:39:34 Or you could be Catholic 0.79

00:39:35 Let's just say I was

00:39:36 Okay

00:39:37 But that

00:39:38 Then I would be

00:39:41 I don't know

00:39:44 Yeah you'd be Christian and Catholic

00:39:45 I gotta sleep on this one

00:39:47 I'll come back and cook

00:39:48 Yeah yeah

00:39:50 Just

00:39:50 Okay

00:39:50 This is the thing

00:39:51 We just say

00:39:51 But this is the most important thing

00:39:53 I think

00:39:54 We all should do research

00:39:55 Right?

00:39:56 We all should investigate

00:39:57 We all should read

00:39:58 And through that

00:39:59 You will

00:40:00 You will find the truth

00:40:01 The Bible itself says

00:40:02 Seek the truth

00:40:03 And the truth

00:40:03 Will set you free

00:40:04 So we cannot

00:40:06 For instance rely on

00:40:07 Say

00:40:08 Okay I watched this professor

00:40:09 Or this person

00:40:09 Or

00:40:11 Sneak who cannot just rely on me 0.68

00:40:12 Or this person

00:40:13 That person

00:40:13 That's why I'm a Muslim

00:40:15 Right?

00:40:15 He's gotta do his own research

00:40:16 And he's been doing his own research

00:40:18 That's why he actually accepted Islam

00:40:19 Because he did research

00:40:20 He spoke with Sheikh Uthman

00:40:22 He spoke with different people

00:40:23 About Islam

00:40:23 Did a lot of reading

00:40:24 Yeah

00:40:25 And then he did reading

00:40:26 He read the Quran

00:40:26 Etc

00:40:27 He did reading

00:40:28 When it comes to the Bible

00:40:29 I think if people do investigation

00:40:31 And

00:40:32 They wouldn't just say

00:40:33 I just believe

00:40:34 For instance

00:40:35 Or this person

00:40:35 He knows how to explain it

00:40:37 Because in the end

00:40:38 If I see

00:40:39 I'm definitely going to heaven

00:40:41 But I'm

00:40:42 I'm not sure

00:40:43 About the exact details

00:40:44 Of what I believe

00:40:45 I think that could be

00:40:47 Also an issue

00:40:47 Right?

00:40:49 Mm-hmm

00:40:49 Yeah

00:40:51 So this is the thing

00:40:52 I read the Bible

00:40:53 For example

00:40:53 And that's why I say

00:40:54 To the people

00:40:55 Okay why don't you

00:40:55 Pick up a copy

00:40:56 Of the Quran 0.78

00:40:57 Just pick up a copy

00:40:59 And then read it

00:41:00 It's free in many websites

00:41:01 If you need

00:41:01 If you just go free

00:41:02 Quran.com

00:41:03 You'll probably find one

00:41:04 So it's like free

00:41:05 It can be posted to you even

00:41:06 People can just read it

00:41:07 Pick up a copy

00:41:09 And read it

00:41:10 So you think you

00:41:11 I'm not saying

00:41:12 That sounds rude

00:41:13 No no say whatever

00:41:14 I'm not going to get offended

00:41:15 By the way

00:41:16 That you know everything

00:41:17 There is to know

00:41:18 Or do you think

00:41:19 That there's constantly more

00:41:20 There's always more

00:41:21 That we need to

00:41:22 We need to always seek knowledge

00:41:23 I think

00:41:24 I know enough

00:41:26 To decide

00:41:27 Where the truth is

00:41:28 But I don't know everything

00:41:29 Of course

00:41:30 I need to learn

00:41:31 Every day

00:41:32 As everyone does

00:41:33 But I know enough

00:41:33 To decide

00:41:34 Why I believe

00:41:35 What I believe

00:41:35 Is the truth

00:41:36 And why

00:41:37 For instance

00:41:37 Another faith

00:41:38 Is not true

00:41:38 Which is very important

00:41:40 So if someone

00:41:42 Were to ask me

00:41:43 Why is ex-religion 1.00

00:41:43 Not true

00:41:44 I will be giving them

00:41:46 Reasons why

00:41:46 Why is not true

00:41:47 If someone asks me

00:41:47 Why islam is the truth 1.00

00:41:48 For instance

00:41:49 I will give reasons

00:41:51 Why is the truth

00:41:52 What are you laughing at

00:41:54 I just got astray

00:41:56 I feel like

00:41:57 Because he's saying

00:41:59 That I'm

00:42:01 Like I feel like

00:42:03 I don't know

00:42:04 And I'm saying

00:42:05 That I do believe in it

00:42:06 And I don't know

00:42:07 Right?

00:42:09 Something to think about

00:42:10 That's a good observation

00:42:12 But I can't

00:42:12 I definitely couldn't be Muslim 1.00

00:42:14 Because I know nothing

00:42:15 About Islam

00:42:16 Well I mean

00:42:17 Becoming Muslim

00:42:18 Is as simple as

00:42:18 As simple as

00:42:20 Professing

00:42:20 Do you believe

00:42:22 That there's one God?

00:42:25 Yes

00:42:25 I mean

00:42:26 That's like

00:42:26 That's the first step

00:42:27 That's like

00:42:28 The core tenets

00:42:29 Of Islam

00:42:30 Is that we worship

00:42:31 One God

00:42:31 That's the only

00:42:32 Monotheistic religion

00:42:33 But isn't that

00:42:35 What Christians believe? 0.98

00:42:36 No you just said

00:42:37 There's three

00:42:37 I think it's three

00:42:39 But it's all one

00:42:40 But then you say

00:42:42 That's not what they believe?

00:42:44 Okay I'll ask you

00:42:44 This question right?

00:42:46 If they're all one

00:42:47 Who do you believe

00:42:48 Died on the cross?

00:42:50 It should be all of them

00:42:52 Jesus

00:42:52 No but

00:42:53 But they're all one

00:42:54 I mean yes

00:42:54 I don't know

00:42:59 If Jesus only died

00:43:00 Because the Bible

00:43:01 He did not resurrect himself

00:43:03 It was the Father

00:43:03 Who resurrected him

00:43:04 So if only Jesus died

00:43:06 Then how are they all one?

00:43:07 One dies

00:43:07 The rest doesn't die

00:43:08 Because he died

00:43:10 In human form

00:43:11 So he didn't die

00:43:12 If you say

00:43:15 God resurrected right?

00:43:16 Technically

00:43:17 Well he was dead

00:43:17 For three days then

00:43:18 God was dead for three days

00:43:20 God

00:43:20 God was dead

00:43:21 God died for three days

00:43:23 Yeah

00:43:23 So who resurrected God

00:43:25 When he died for three days?

00:43:28 God

00:43:28 Yes

00:43:30 That's what I'm talking about

00:43:32 That's like

00:43:33 So the first steps

00:43:33 Of becoming Muslim 0.98

00:43:34 Are just professing that

00:43:36 So we don't associate

00:43:37 Any partners

00:43:38 There's none of this

00:43:39 The confusion

00:43:40 That you're professing now

00:43:41 I'm not saying

00:43:42 You need to become Muslim 1.00

00:43:43 Obviously if you're okay 0.98

00:43:44 With Christianity 0.99

00:43:45 That's okay

00:43:46 Well Jesus died

00:43:47 Not God

00:43:48 But you just said

00:43:49 You pray to Jesus

00:43:49 And Jesus is God

00:43:50 I mean yes

00:43:52 But

00:43:53 Yeah

00:43:55 But I wouldn't say

00:43:56 If you're okay

00:43:57 With Christianity 0.99

00:43:58 I would say

00:43:58 You do the research

00:44:00 Yeah

00:44:00 And you find the truth

00:44:01 Right

00:44:01 And the purpose

00:44:03 Of this discussion

00:44:03 Is not for me

00:44:04 To say okay

00:44:04 Right

00:44:04 And I'm okay

00:44:05 This is how you become Muslim 1.00

00:44:06 Say after me 0.87

00:44:07 This is not the purpose

00:44:08 Right

00:44:08 The purpose is to see

00:44:09 Okay

00:44:10 Do we know what we believe

00:44:11 Should we do some reading

00:44:13 We do investigate

00:44:13 Generally as people

00:44:14 Right

00:44:14 Because it's about awareness

00:44:16 First

00:44:16 And secondly

00:44:18 About finding the truth

00:44:19 Just generally it

00:44:21 That's the main reason

00:44:22 So being Muslim

00:44:23 You said you don't know

00:44:24 Enough about Islam 1.00

00:44:24 Being Muslim

00:44:25 Is to believe in

00:44:25 One creator

00:44:26 All the prophets of God

00:44:28 That they're prophets

00:44:29 They're not God themselves

00:44:30 And God is just one

00:44:31 Who sends prophets

00:44:32 These prophets are not God

00:44:34 They're not one with God

00:44:35 They're not God

00:44:35 Etc

00:44:36 This is the message of Islam

00:44:38 If someone were to believe that

00:44:39 And believe in Prophet Muhammad 0.97

00:44:40 Of course

00:44:40 Peace be upon him

00:44:42 And all of the previous messengers

00:44:43 Peace be upon all of them

00:44:44 Then that person is essentially

00:44:47 A Muslim

00:44:47 He just confesses that

00:44:48 And then testifies it

00:44:50 He just becomes Muslim 0.99

00:44:51 And it's not even that big of a step

00:44:54 From Christianity 1.00

00:44:54 Like if you believe

00:44:55 Do you believe Jesus was a

00:44:56 Was a

00:44:57 He sent the message of God

00:44:58 And he was trying to tell the world

00:45:00 About the creator

00:45:01 A message of God

00:45:06 Yes

00:45:08 Yeah

00:45:08 That's what we believe

00:45:09 So it's not even that big of a leap

00:45:11 You know

00:45:12 It's

00:45:12 I think

00:45:12 From where you are

00:45:14 It's just

00:45:14 Disassociating with the

00:45:15 With the idea of the

00:45:16 The confusion of the Trinity

00:45:18 But how was dinner

00:45:24 You had a good dinner

00:45:25 Yeah dinner was good

00:45:27 Okay

00:45:28 Are you gonna sleep 17 hours again

00:45:30 No I'm gonna stay up

00:45:33 I'm gonna try to fix my sleep schedule

00:45:36 Okay

00:45:37 If you have any more questions

00:45:39 I don't feel any

00:45:41 Wait what time is it for you guys

00:45:42 It is

00:45:42 6 10 a.m. in Bosnia

00:45:44 Oh wow

00:45:46 The sun's out

00:45:47 It's

00:45:48 Yeah

00:45:49 Wait so you guys just woke up or

00:45:50 We've been streaming for two hours

00:45:52 We've been

00:45:52 I've been up for quite a while

00:45:54 So it's

00:45:54 Muhammad Ali's been

00:45:55 You should get some sleep

00:45:56 Hey

00:45:56 Keep going

00:45:57 I will soon

00:45:58 Okay inshallah

00:45:58 Yeah we've been

00:46:00 We're hard workers

00:46:01 Yeah

00:46:02 So what have you guys been doing in Bosnia

00:46:05 Well we just arrived last night

00:46:06 So we walked around

00:46:07 Met some people

00:46:08 Had some good food

00:46:09 Teaser told me some places to go

00:46:12 And

00:46:13 Tomorrow we're gonna

00:46:14 Explore more

00:46:15 Yeah and there's

00:46:16 Beautiful scenery here

00:46:18 Generally

00:46:18 Beautiful cultures

00:46:19 There's a lot of

00:46:20 Beautiful mountains

00:46:21 Rivers

00:46:21 Stuff like that

00:46:22 It's actually funny

00:46:22 Cause it's like a

00:46:23 It's a white Muslim country 1.00

00:46:24 It's like people look like you 1.00

00:46:25 But they're Muslim 0.99

00:46:26 Well you're not white 1.00

00:46:27 You're

00:46:27 Yeah you're

00:46:28 Taco or something

00:46:30 What are you

00:46:31 Yes

00:46:32 I'm a

00:46:33 Peruvian and Guatemalan

00:46:35 Peruvian and Guatemalan

00:46:35 But yeah

00:46:36 And also there's a lot of

00:46:37 Christians out here too

00:46:38 But this is

00:46:38 It's a cool place

00:46:40 I feel like you look more

00:46:41 White than I do 1.00

00:46:42 You think so

00:46:43 It's funny

00:46:44 A Bosnian guy earlier

00:46:45 Said I look black

00:46:46 I'm like

00:46:46 And I was in Lebanon

00:46:47 And they kept calling me

00:46:48 Jackie Chan

00:46:48 Everywhere I go

00:46:50 It's something

00:46:50 Yeah I feel like

00:46:51 You look more Asian 1.00

00:46:52 If anything

00:46:53 Did you

00:46:54 Remember the white guy

00:46:55 Earlier said I look black

00:46:56 Everyone says

00:46:57 Everyone says

00:46:58 Something else

00:46:59 But that's probably

00:46:59 Because he's very

00:47:01 Like white 0.98

00:47:01 Because he's very white 1.00

00:47:02 Yeah

00:47:02 You just had like

00:47:04 Slight tan to you

00:47:05 And he was like

00:47:06 Clutching onto his pearls

00:47:08 He did say he got robbed

00:47:09 In New York 0.99

00:47:09 By some black guys

00:47:10 So I think he was

00:47:11 Like why did he mention that

00:47:13 Because he visited New York

00:47:15 And he was sharing his experience

00:47:17 What you think it's racist

00:47:17 To say that 0.95

00:47:18 A black guy robbed him 0.99

00:47:19 Like 0.98

00:47:21 Because he

00:47:21 He said that 0.94

00:47:22 He thought you were black 0.73

00:47:24 And then he was like

00:47:24 Oh by the way

00:47:25 Because I got robbed

00:47:26 No he said

00:47:26 He thought I was black afterwards

00:47:27 I was hoping I would

00:47:27 Came into it

00:47:28 He thought I was

00:47:29 He said the black thing afterwards

00:47:31 Regardless

00:47:31 You look pretty

00:47:33 She's pretty white 0.97

00:47:34 You're supposed to lower your gaze

00:47:36 Lower your gaze

00:47:36 What do I look like?

00:47:39 I think you kind of look Italian 0.94

00:47:41 Like Ariana Grande

00:47:42 Really?

00:47:45 I'm so tan

00:47:46 Maybe it's the light

00:47:48 But

00:47:49 Here look

00:47:50 I'll make the lighting

00:47:51 Regular color

00:47:52 Wait

00:47:54 That's not regular

00:47:55 Yeah

00:47:55 See I'm tan

00:47:56 Right?

00:47:59 Yeah

00:48:00 I could be a tan

00:48:00 Italian

00:48:01 Tan white guy 0.54

00:48:02 Or girl 0.89

00:48:03 I could be tan

00:48:05 And white

00:48:05 I guess

00:48:06 Yeah

00:48:06 Wait can I?

00:48:08 You definitely can

00:48:09 I don't know anything

00:48:11 You know some stuff

00:48:12 Trust me

00:48:12 Like don't

00:48:13 I can see a lot of time

00:48:14 In this conversation

00:48:15 You're like 1.00

00:48:15 Oh I'm dumb 0.99

00:48:16 The fact that you have an open mind 0.96

00:48:18 To ask these questions

00:48:19 And be in a difficult conversation

00:48:20 You know how many streamers

00:48:21 Would even sit down

00:48:22 And have a conversation

00:48:22 With Sneeko and Muhammad Ali

00:48:24 About religion

00:48:25 It takes

00:48:26 True

00:48:26 It takes courage

00:48:27 And an open mind

00:48:29 And some sort of knowledge

00:48:30 To be able to do this

00:48:31 So 0.99

00:48:31 I don't think you're dumb 0.93

00:48:32 Appreciate that guys 0.93

00:48:35 Yeah

00:48:35 Likewise

00:48:37 Yeah

00:48:39 Yeah plus the purpose

00:48:39 Like is

00:48:40 As we said

00:48:41 The purpose is not like

00:48:42 You know

00:48:42 The person versus person

00:48:43 It's just a discussion dialogue

00:48:45 And people always try to make it

00:48:47 This person versus this person

00:48:48 Discussion

00:48:49 This person won

00:48:50 This person lost

00:48:51 It's not

00:48:51 Oh yeah like

00:48:52 There's an argument here

00:48:53 Yeah yeah yeah

00:48:54 It clearly doesn't

00:48:56 Seem like we're arguing

00:48:57 Or something like that

00:48:58 We're asking questions

00:48:59 And the people who are

00:49:00 Listening as well

00:49:02 Can think about these questions

00:49:03 If they got answers to them as well

00:49:04 Okay then they got answers to them

00:49:06 If they don't

00:49:07 Then it's something to think about

00:49:08 And to do some research

00:49:09 Then perhaps like

00:49:11 You think something

00:49:12 Yeah hopefully

00:49:12 Somebody in the chat

00:49:14 Is inspired

00:49:16 We've inspired hopefully

00:49:17 Hopefully yes

00:49:18 Doing a good thing

00:49:19 That's how it happened to me

00:49:21 Like I was just

00:49:22 I don't even remember what it was

00:49:24 I just

00:49:24 Was just

00:49:27 Probably on TikTok or something

00:49:29 Okay maybe not TikTok

00:49:30 I don't remember how it is

00:49:31 You found Christianity on TikTok?

00:49:34 No I don't know why I said that

00:49:35 I don't remember what it was

00:49:37 But it just

00:49:38 Was

00:49:38 It just took something

00:49:41 I mean maybe it was

00:49:42 I don't remember

00:49:43 It was in December

00:49:44 It's not that long ago

00:49:46 But it just took like

00:49:46 Somebody talking about it

00:49:48 That I kept constantly

00:49:50 Thinking about it

00:49:51 And then eventually

00:49:51 I started to like

00:49:52 Do research

00:49:53 Even though clearly

00:49:54 My research is

00:49:56 Not that

00:49:58 Good

00:49:59 Because I didn't really

00:50:01 Have an answer to much

00:50:03 You have the same answers

00:50:04 You've spoken to many Christians

00:50:05 It's the same answers

00:50:06 Right

00:50:07 Yeah

00:50:07 Like when you mentioned

00:50:08 For example

00:50:08 Like that he came to relate

00:50:10 To a creation

00:50:10 All of these things

00:50:11 Is what Christians say 0.63

00:50:12 By the way

00:50:13 It doesn't matter

00:50:13 Whether they're like

00:50:14 Pope level

00:50:15 Or just like layman level

00:50:16 They say the same thing

00:50:17 So it's not like

00:50:18 And you

00:50:20 Maybe if you do your research

00:50:21 You'll see

00:50:21 It's the same thing

00:50:22 That you were saying really

00:50:23 You're not going to find

00:50:24 Compelling answers

00:50:26 They're just going to give you

00:50:27 An example

00:50:28 Of body is a soul

00:50:29 And spirit

00:50:30 And flesh

00:50:31 This is how the trinity works

00:50:33 But then we say

00:50:34 That the body is a part

00:50:35 And the soul is a part

00:50:36 And the spirit is a part

00:50:37 They're not all 100% human

00:50:38 100% human

00:50:39 100% human

00:50:40 But you claim

00:50:40 Jesus is 100% God

00:50:41 The Holy Spirit is 100% God

00:50:43 It's not the same thing

00:50:44 Then they're like

00:50:45 Okay

00:50:45 You're not going to be able

00:50:46 To understand it

00:50:47 Then we say

00:50:48 Okay

00:50:48 Where is the trinity

00:50:49 In the Bible

00:50:49 To begin with

00:50:50 It's not even there

00:50:50 Then they're not able

00:50:52 Even to find the trinity

00:50:53 It's a different story

00:50:54 Right

00:50:54 So that's something

00:50:55 For maybe for another time

00:50:57 Right

00:50:58 Do you have any more questions

00:50:58 About Islam

00:50:59 Because you're saying

00:51:00 That you don't know anything

00:51:00 About Islam

00:51:02 And that you seem like

00:51:02 You want to

00:51:03 Get more information

00:51:05 No I don't really

00:51:09 Have any questions

00:51:10 Alright

00:51:11 If you're going to

00:51:12 Go play COD

00:51:12 We'll leave it there

00:51:14 If you want to talk again

00:51:15 Just feel free to hit me up

00:51:16 Alright

00:51:17 Sounds good

00:51:18 Alright

00:51:19 Nice meeting you

00:51:20 Great night

00:51:20 Bye bye

00:51:21 Nice meeting you guys

00:51:22 Peace

00:51:22 Or seeing you again

00:51:23 See you

00:51:24 Okay there's a Christian

00:51:26 In the chat

00:51:26 So you never know

00:51:27 Jocosta

00:51:28 Who keeps saying that

00:51:29 We're scared to talk to him

00:51:30 I've talked to him

00:51:31 Quite a bit

00:51:31 Let me call him right now

00:51:32 He's like a

00:51:34 Big member of the

00:51:36 Love speech

00:51:36 Of community

00:51:37 Stuff

00:51:37 I think

00:51:38 Maybe

00:51:39 Have you seen this guy

00:51:40 Before on Twitter

00:51:41 I've seen

00:51:43 I mentioned maybe

00:51:44 One time

00:51:44 I don't know if it was him

00:51:45 Or not

00:51:46 But I said there's someone

00:51:47 It appeared on my timeline

00:51:48 By the way

00:51:49 If you see on Twitter

00:51:50 People can check

00:51:50 I don't follow anyone

00:51:51 But I sometimes

00:51:52 I get the love speech thing

00:51:53 Because probably

00:51:54 We tweeted back and forth

00:51:55 And this and that

00:51:55 Let's go

00:51:56 They come on the timeline

00:51:57 Right

00:51:57 So I saw him

00:51:58 Commenting before

00:51:59 On my discussion with you

00:52:01 He said something like

00:52:02 Disingenuous or something

00:52:03 I said the same exact comment

00:52:06 Copy paste

00:52:06 On Chekhov man

00:52:07 Or someone

00:52:07 I was like

00:52:08 Okay so he copy pastes

00:52:09 The same thing

00:52:09 After every discussion

00:52:10 Yeah

00:52:11 It's this guy

00:52:12 It's this guy

00:52:12 And he puts it in the group

00:52:13 Let's call

00:52:14 Let's call

00:52:14 Do you mind

00:52:15 No it's fine

00:52:16 It's alright

00:52:16 Can I have a quick thing

00:52:18 He rejects the Trinity 0.61

00:52:19 By the way

00:52:19 He's a Jehovah's Witness

00:52:20 Oh okay

00:52:21 So that's a different story though

00:52:22 But he doesn't represent

00:52:23 Most Christians then 0.95

00:52:24 No not at all

00:52:25 But I mean

00:52:26 Right now

00:52:27 The Christians are saying 1.00

00:52:28 Call

00:52:28 Okay he didn't pick up

00:52:29 Oh Jocosa 1.00

00:52:30 What's up Zico

00:52:37 What's going on man

00:52:38 I saw you did a face reveal

00:52:39 Do you want to turn the camera on now

00:52:42 Yeah no we'll wait

00:52:43 One day

00:52:45 Wait for later this year

00:52:47 Okay well you did a face reveal already

00:52:49 Go ahead

00:52:50 I know I know

00:52:52 It's okay though

00:52:52 I'm enjoying the stream a lot

00:52:54 And I was saying

00:52:57 I was saying that he's scared

00:52:58 So I could bait you

00:52:59 To get beyond

00:52:59 But so now that I'm out

00:53:01 What's up guys

00:53:01 How are you guys doing

00:53:02 Doing good

00:53:03 Subhanallah

00:53:03 It's a nice day in Bosnia

00:53:05 The sun's coming up

00:53:05 We're just gonna go some sightseeing

00:53:07 But yeah

00:53:08 You've called

00:53:09 Let's just get to the

00:53:10 Skip the Yap

00:53:11 You know

00:53:11 In a friendly way

00:53:12 You know what

00:53:13 I just want to point out one thing

00:53:14 By the way

00:53:14 Muslim Lantern

00:53:15 I just want to defend Myron here

00:53:17 In that same

00:53:18 In that same episode

00:53:19 Myron Gaines

00:53:20 So I don't think that

00:53:23 I think that you kind of

00:53:24 Represented

00:53:24 Myron there

00:53:26 I think Myron's a great friend

00:53:27 He's been

00:53:27 Sinko's friend for a while

00:53:28 Been very loyal to Sinko

00:53:30 So I just think that's

00:53:31 The out of context clip

00:53:32 They joke around with each other

00:53:34 They go back and forth

00:53:35 They throw shots at each other

00:53:36 Jokingly

00:53:37 It's not that deep

00:53:38 He's talking about the thing

00:53:39 From earlier

00:53:39 When Myron

00:53:40 The bully thing

00:53:40 I thought he's coming here

00:53:41 About Christianity

00:53:42 Or is he coming here

00:53:42 He is

00:53:43 I think he just wanted to clear the answer

00:53:43 Yeah so

00:53:44 I said to Myron

00:53:46 Sorry I said to Sinko

00:53:47 That's your own thing

00:53:48 You have them

00:53:48 You know them

00:53:49 I don't know your relationship

00:53:50 Between

00:53:50 We make jokes with each other

00:53:51 Yeah

00:53:52 He mentioned the idea

00:53:53 That they make jokes

00:53:54 Then I said it's not the same

00:53:55 To make joke

00:53:56 And to demean someone

00:53:57 In a public platform

00:53:57 When he's not there

00:53:58 He didn't demean him though

00:54:00 That wasn't really demeaning him

00:54:01 No to say

00:54:02 He just was saying

00:54:02 I'm not Sinko

00:54:03 Because everybody knows

00:54:04 You have to understand

00:54:05 The context of the audience

00:54:06 The Freshly Fit audience

00:54:08 The Sinko audience 0.97

00:54:09 Knows about the Haram police 0.96

00:54:10 It's an ongoing joke

00:54:11 So he's like

00:54:12 I'm not Sinko

00:54:13 Because that's the first thing

00:54:13 You think of when you think

00:54:14 Of Haram police

00:54:15 No he said

00:54:15 Don't bully me

00:54:16 He said don't bully me

00:54:17 I'm not Sinko

00:54:18 But what does that mean

00:54:19 Don't bully me

00:54:20 I'm not Sinko

00:54:20 Because the Haram police 1.00

00:54:21 Does bully Sinko

00:54:21 Sinko knows that

00:54:22 Sinko there are so many clips

00:54:24 Of Sinko yelling at the Haram police 0.62

00:54:26 We know this

00:54:27 This is a common concept

00:54:28 Between their relationships

00:54:29 That the Haram police bully 0.99

00:54:31 The same thing is happening with him

00:54:32 He is right now

00:54:34 Complaining about being bullied

00:54:35 In a way

00:54:36 If you want to say

00:54:36 So you cannot say

00:54:37 That oh

00:54:38 If they're criticizing Sinko

00:54:39 They're also criticizing him

00:54:40 But for him to say

00:54:41 I'm not Sinko

00:54:42 That means you cannot bully me

00:54:43 But you can bully Sinko

00:54:44 No matter how you

00:54:45 Which way you want to put it

00:54:46 That is not what he's saying

00:54:47 Okay you can say that

00:54:49 But I'll say

00:54:49 Okay

00:54:50 I think that's not being fair

00:54:51 But

00:54:51 Alright alright

00:54:52 We don't need to argue

00:54:53 Let's get to the important parts

00:54:56 Like we don't want to argue

00:54:56 Too much about Myron

00:54:57 No because you made a statement

00:54:58 He's not saying that Sinko is weak

00:55:01 He's saying that Sinko allows it

00:55:02 He's not going to allow it

00:55:04 Sure

00:55:04 That's the difference

00:55:05 When Myron comes

00:55:06 We can have a discussion with Myron

00:55:07 Because that's not

00:55:08 Myron is not here

00:55:09 Like he can explain

00:55:10 What he meant

00:55:10 Well that's why I'm defending him

00:55:11 That's why Myron is not here

00:55:13 And he said something about him

00:55:14 I didn't think that was correct

00:55:15 And you're his lawyer

00:55:16 Or I don't get

00:55:17 Sneako played

00:55:19 Look look

00:55:20 Let's just clarify one thing

00:55:22 Because this seems like

00:55:23 A bit like

00:55:23 Are you his friend

00:55:25 Do you know Myron

00:55:25 Do you know him

00:55:26 Can I speak

00:55:27 Okay thank you

00:55:28 Do you talk to Myron

00:55:29 Every single day

00:55:29 Can I respond

00:55:31 So you have a bias

00:55:32 Because he's your friend

00:55:33 You're defending him

00:55:33 Right

00:55:33 Okay I get that part

00:55:35 No problem

00:55:35 Go ahead

00:55:36 Respond

00:55:36 Yeah that's fine

00:55:37 I understand he's your friend

00:55:38 That's why you're getting

00:55:39 Emotionally defending him

00:55:40 From that side

00:55:41 But that's fine

00:55:41 I think it's

00:55:42 Look look

00:55:43 Sneako played the clip

00:55:46 I didn't ask him to play the clip

00:55:48 He's just a kid

00:55:49 Three or four

00:55:49 But he said

00:55:49 What do you think about this clip

00:55:50 Now you're throwing

00:55:51 Sneako under the bus

00:55:52 Now you're saying

00:55:53 It's Sneako's fault 1.00

00:55:53 I'm not throwing anyone

00:55:55 Under the bus

00:55:56 I'm giving a context

00:55:58 But you're interrupting

00:55:59 Me giving the context

00:56:00 Which is like

00:56:01 Because you're blaming

00:56:01 Sneako

00:56:02 You're deflecting

00:56:02 How about you

00:56:03 Take responsibility

00:56:03 I don't do the yelling

00:56:06 Back and forth

00:56:07 I do like

00:56:07 Civilized

00:56:08 I'm not yelling

00:56:08 I'm just

00:56:09 I'm speaking over the road noise

00:56:11 You're speaking over me actually

00:56:12 Not the noise

00:56:13 No

00:56:14 It's for

00:56:15 Alright so you can speak now

00:56:16 Okay you speak

00:56:17 And then I speak when you're done

00:56:18 Go ahead

00:56:18 You can go now

00:56:20 Go ahead

00:56:20 Okay so you're not going to interrupt

00:56:21 Okay

00:56:21 I said

00:56:22 I'm going to allow you

00:56:23 Sneako played the clip

00:56:29 Of course I didn't tell him

00:56:30 Let's talk about

00:56:31 Myron or anything like that

00:56:32 He said that this clip

00:56:33 Is just

00:56:34 Happened right now

00:56:35 So he played the clip

00:56:36 So I commented

00:56:37 In what I saw in the clip

00:56:38 I saw in the clip

00:56:39 Something I didn't like

00:56:40 I know Sneako 0.96

00:56:41 And I think it's not respectful

00:56:42 The attitude that was taken

00:56:44 That's my position

00:56:45 It will remain to be my position

00:56:46 You're his friend

00:56:47 That's up to you

00:56:48 To be his friend

00:56:48 Whatever it is

00:56:49 But you cannot say

00:56:50 You cannot say

00:56:51 He didn't mean that

00:56:52 Or he meant that

00:56:52 Unless he's there

00:56:53 To represent himself

00:56:54 To say I'm in this one

00:56:55 Did he not say

00:56:55 That he needs better friends

00:56:56 After watching Netflix

00:56:58 No I'm telling him

00:56:58 In general by the way

00:56:59 This was

00:57:00 He said that even before

00:57:04 He didn't even

00:57:04 That was in the Airbnb

00:57:05 Actually

00:57:06 Before even the stream

00:57:07 Okay I just want to

00:57:08 Clear that up

00:57:09 Because Myron is a great friend

00:57:10 And Sneako you know that

00:57:11 I said that

00:57:12 Okay

00:57:13 Just wanted to clear that up

00:57:14 That's fine

00:57:15 That's fine

00:57:15 Okay

00:57:16 I didn't

00:57:17 They didn't say

00:57:18 He's not a great friend

00:57:19 Let's get into the Bible 0.89

00:57:21 Okay

00:57:23 Let's start with this

00:57:24 Do you believe in the Trinity?

00:57:27 Do I believe in the Trinity?

00:57:28 I know it's a concept

00:57:28 But I don't believe

00:57:29 It's Bible based

00:57:30 So you reject the Trinity?

00:57:32 So that's why

00:57:32 We were arguing literally

00:57:33 Yeah

00:57:34 Yeah

00:57:34 I reject the concept

00:57:35 But you guys were

00:57:35 Explaining it wrong

00:57:36 You guys weren't even

00:57:37 Explaining what they

00:57:37 Believe correctly

00:57:38 Okay so if you don't believe it

00:57:40 I don't think there's any point

00:57:41 Of discussing something

00:57:42 You don't believe

00:57:43 Well I mean

00:57:44 I also don't want you

00:57:45 To misrepresent

00:57:45 Christian's belief

00:57:46 That's a little

00:57:47 Disingenuous

00:57:47 To tell her

00:57:48 To make her think

00:57:49 That it's not coming

00:57:51 From a logical place

00:57:52 They have their own reasons

00:57:53 For believing it

00:57:53 Their own logic behind it

00:57:54 You were given

00:57:55 The incorrect logic

00:57:56 You just said

00:57:57 That it's not in the Bible

00:57:57 So it's not Christian belief then 0.81

00:57:59 Because it's not Bible based

00:58:00 I believe

00:58:00 I believe it's not based

00:58:02 By the Bible

00:58:02 But it is

00:58:03 A current Christian belief 0.72

00:58:04 It's not correct

00:58:05 It's still a belief

00:58:06 Okay so if it's incorrect

00:58:07 Then that's it

00:58:08 Why would you want to

00:58:09 Defend something

00:58:10 That's incorrect

00:58:10 No I'm defending

00:58:12 The fact that you

00:58:13 Misrepresented their belief

00:58:14 You didn't correctly

00:58:15 Speak for them

00:58:16 Okay

00:58:17 That's essentially

00:58:17 What you were doing

00:58:18 Okay so can you

00:58:19 Tell me how I

00:58:20 Defined the Trinity

00:58:22 To the girl

00:58:23 I'm sorry

00:58:24 I just don't remember her name

00:58:25 So I'll just call her the girl

00:58:26 You can tell her this

00:58:27 Yeah you can tell her

00:58:28 That Christians believe 1.00

00:58:30 In one God

00:58:31 Okay

00:58:32 However

00:58:32 They believe that God

00:58:34 Has the power

00:58:35 To create himself

00:58:37 In a human form

00:58:38 And walk the earth

00:58:39 Because you can't say

00:58:40 He can't

00:58:40 Because then you're

00:58:41 Saying that you're

00:58:41 Limiting him

00:58:42 He has the power

00:58:43 To do whatever he wants

00:58:43 Sorry sorry

00:58:44 I asked you a question

00:58:46 Sorry I asked you a question

00:58:47 Oh you want to answer me

00:58:47 Oh no go ahead

00:58:48 Because you didn't

00:58:49 Respond to the question

00:58:49 You said something else

00:58:50 I asked the question

00:58:51 I said

00:58:51 What did I say to her

00:58:53 When I defined the Trinity

00:58:54 Because I did define it

00:58:55 In our discussion

00:58:56 You were saying that

00:58:58 That he was in

00:59:00 Different places

00:59:01 At one time

00:59:02 So you don't know

00:59:02 I said

00:59:02 Yeah that's what

00:59:05 You were saying

00:59:05 No no you don't

00:59:06 Know what I said

00:59:06 Clearly

00:59:06 Because I gave a

00:59:07 Definition

00:59:07 In fact

00:59:09 After giving a

00:59:10 Definition

00:59:11 I said you can

00:59:11 Ask the Christians 1.00

00:59:12 In the chat

00:59:13 Am I correctly

00:59:14 Representing the Trinity

00:59:15 For a reason

00:59:16 Right

00:59:17 Now you're coming

00:59:18 You don't even

00:59:18 Remember what I said

00:59:19 But you want to tell me

00:59:20 That I misrepresented

00:59:20 The Trinity

00:59:21 That's incorrect

00:59:23 That is exactly

00:59:24 What you said

00:59:24 I was correct

00:59:25 What did I exactly say

00:59:27 And by the way

00:59:27 Clip is there

00:59:28 People will watch

00:59:28 We'll see that

00:59:29 You're wrong

00:59:30 How about let's get to the point

00:59:33 The point is

00:59:34 The Trinity

00:59:35 Is a concept about

00:59:37 One God

00:59:38 However

00:59:38 Hold on

00:59:39 He used his power

00:59:41 He manifested his power

00:59:42 To become human

00:59:43 To fulfill a purpose

00:59:44 And then resurrect

00:59:46 Back to heaven

00:59:47 That's their concept

00:59:49 But you made it

00:59:50 What did you just say

00:59:51 Oh sorry sorry

00:59:52 Three different gods

00:59:53 Say that again 0.67

00:59:54 What did you just say

00:59:55 That was incorrect

00:59:57 The way you explained it

00:59:58 No no

00:59:58 The way you explained it

00:59:59 Right now

00:59:59 Say it again

01:00:00 Yeah one god

01:00:01 Three essences

01:00:02 That's how they describe it

01:00:04 One god what

01:00:04 Three essences

01:00:05 One god

01:00:06 Three essences

01:00:07 You clearly don't know

01:00:08 What you're talking about

01:00:09 With all due respect

01:00:10 It's one god

01:00:11 Three persons

01:00:11 It's one essence

01:00:13 It's not three essences

01:00:14 With all due respect

01:00:16 You don't even know

01:00:16 What the Trinity

01:00:17 No no

01:00:17 I'm going to say this respectfully

01:00:19 You don't even know

01:00:19 What the definition

01:00:20 Of the Trinity is

01:00:20 And you want to tell me

01:00:21 And you want to tell me

01:00:22 I'm misrepresenting it

01:00:24 I think the reason

01:00:24 You think I'm misrepresenting it

01:00:26 Is because you don't know

01:00:26 The definition yourself

01:00:27 So I'll just

01:00:28 If he just

01:00:30 Like doesn't know

01:00:30 The definition

01:00:31 And he doesn't even believe it

01:00:33 But he just want to discuss

01:00:34 Something he doesn't believe

01:00:35 I think

01:00:35 It's fine

01:00:35 I just think

01:00:36 That you're

01:00:37 Okay

01:00:37 People can do Google research

01:00:39 It's the Trinity three essences

01:00:40 You can Google it yourself now

01:00:42 And then you'll see

01:00:43 How that is completely incorrect

01:00:44 That's what you said

01:00:45 By the way

01:00:46 Okay yeah cool

01:00:47 Okay cool

01:00:48 Okay so how about

01:00:50 How about

01:00:51 Okay

01:00:51 Jakossa

01:00:52 I want to

01:00:52 Instead of

01:00:53 Because you're arguing

01:00:54 Like as a defender

01:00:55 Of Christianity 0.98

01:00:56 Why don't we

01:00:57 Speak about your beliefs

01:00:58 Because if you don't reject

01:00:59 If you reject the Trinity

01:01:00 What do you believe in

01:01:02 Because instead of

01:01:03 You're

01:01:04 Right now you're defending

01:01:05 Something that you don't

01:01:05 Even believe in

01:01:06 Right

01:01:07 Right so

01:01:08 That's fine

01:01:09 I can do that

01:01:09 So what do you disagree

01:01:11 With Muhammad Ali

01:01:12 Like where do you disagree

01:01:13 About his personal beliefs

01:01:15 Not like what he's

01:01:15 Arguing or how he

01:01:16 Misrepresented Christianity

01:01:18 Wait Muhammad who 0.95

01:01:19 Muhammad Ali

01:01:20 Muhammad Ali

01:01:21 You mean with Islam

01:01:22 That's Muslim answers 1.00

01:01:24 Me me me basically

01:01:25 Oh oh I didn't know

01:01:26 My apologies

01:01:27 No that's fine

01:01:28 I didn't know your name

01:01:28 Okay

01:01:30 Mr. Ali

01:01:31 So I don't

01:01:33 I'm not someone

01:01:35 Who fights against Muslims 0.85

01:01:36 I'm not someone who's like

01:01:37 El Muslim 0.99

01:01:37 My goal is just to

01:01:39 Correctly identify

01:01:40 The truth of the scriptures

01:01:41 That's it

01:01:43 What is that truth

01:01:44 I'm not here to say

01:01:44 What is that truth 0.81

01:01:45 Islam is the wrong religion 1.00

01:01:46 Go ahead sorry 0.99

01:01:48 So what is the truth

01:01:50 The truth is the scriptures

01:01:53 The truth is God's word

01:01:54 And that's the Bible

01:01:55 The truth is

01:01:57 The outworking of God's purpose

01:02:00 Throughout the entire scriptures

01:02:01 From beginning to end

01:02:02 If you have not read the Bible

01:02:03 From beginning to end

01:02:03 You should not speak on it

01:02:04 That's my belief

01:02:06 The truth is the Bible

01:02:08 And if you have

01:02:09 If you have specific questions

01:02:10 Like my belief

01:02:11 You can ask specifically

01:02:12 Okay

01:02:12 I'll tell you

01:02:13 The truth is the Bible

01:02:14 Right

01:02:14 The truth is what

01:02:16 What is contained in the Bible

01:02:17 Yeah so the Bible 0.86

01:02:18 Contains the truth

01:02:19 The Bible yes

01:02:21 Because God is the author

01:02:22 Of the scriptures

01:02:22 Of the Bible yes

01:02:23 Yeah so the Bible 0.86

01:02:24 Contains the truth

01:02:25 If the Bible contains the truth 0.90

01:02:26 That Bible that you're reading

01:02:28 I'm giving more context

01:02:29 You're so weird clear

01:02:30 Sorry

01:02:30 I like to give more context

01:02:33 So that we're clear

01:02:34 That's all

01:02:34 Yeah no that's fine

01:02:36 I was moving on from that

01:02:37 So if the Bible is God's word

01:02:41 Or contains God's word

01:02:42 Whatever term you want to use

01:02:43 Who wrote the Bible that you have

01:02:46 What is the earliest manuscript

01:02:47 That you have of it

01:02:48 Here's the thing

01:02:51 You don't know

01:02:52 I mean if you're the one

01:02:53 Don't tell me my answer

01:02:54 No I know you don't know

01:02:56 But I'll let you go

01:02:56 Hold on

01:02:57 Hold on

01:02:58 Don't tell me

01:02:58 Don't speak for me

01:02:59 Okay go ahead

01:03:00 So what I want to ask you to do is

01:03:02 As someone

01:03:03 Who is assuming

01:03:05 Which is what you're doing

01:03:07 And accusing

01:03:08 You have

01:03:08 The burden of proof

01:03:09 So tell me

01:03:09 Prove me wrong

01:03:10 Prove me wrong

01:03:11 Without googling please

01:03:13 Without googling

01:03:13 Because you don't have a camera on

01:03:14 Tell me right now

01:03:16 Without googling

01:03:16 Because you don't have a camera on

01:03:17 I wasn't

01:03:18 Hey man don't interrupt me bro

01:03:19 Okay

01:03:19 But respond please

01:03:21 Okay so the first point is

01:03:23 Hold on

01:03:23 The burden of proof

01:03:24 Is on the accuser

01:03:25 Not the defender

01:03:26 Number two

01:03:27 What accuser

01:03:29 I asked a question

01:03:30 Here are

01:03:31 Hold on

01:03:31 What is

01:03:32 What is contained

01:03:34 In the scriptures

01:03:35 Is what validates

01:03:37 The truth of it

01:03:38 The prophecies

01:03:39 By the prophets

01:03:40 That wasn't my question

01:03:41 You know all about prophets

01:03:41 Prophecies coming true

01:03:43 And being fulfilled

01:03:44 In modern day time

01:03:46 Is proof that the bible 0.98

01:03:47 Is God's word

01:03:48 Third

01:03:49 Third

01:03:49 I have three points

01:03:50 My third point

01:03:51 You can't show me

01:03:53 One bible 0.98

01:03:54 You can't show me

01:03:55 One translation

01:03:56 That doesn't speak

01:03:58 About the ransom sacrifice

01:03:59 You can't show me

01:04:00 One translation

01:04:01 That doesn't speak

01:04:02 About adam and eve

01:04:03 And satan's rebellion

01:04:04 You can't show me

01:04:06 One translation

01:04:06 That doesn't speak

01:04:08 About the prophets

01:04:10 And their prophecies

01:04:10 You can't tell me

01:04:11 You can't tell me

01:04:11 One translation

01:04:12 That doesn't speak

01:04:13 About the future

01:04:14 Events

01:04:15 And the future prophecies

01:04:16 You can't tell me

01:04:17 You can't show me

01:04:18 One translation

01:04:19 That doesn't talk 0.62

01:04:20 About the gospels

01:04:20 And doesn't speak

01:04:21 On what Jesus spoke

01:04:22 About

01:04:22 Show me one translation 0.98

01:04:24 That does not talk

01:04:24 About the outworking

01:04:25 Of God's purpose

01:04:26 From beginning to end

01:04:27 If you want to

01:04:28 Fixate on minute details

01:04:29 Of different translations

01:04:30 Then that's you

01:04:31 Nick picking

01:04:32 Because you have

01:04:32 Never read the bible

01:04:33 I guarantee you

01:04:34 Muhammad Ali

01:04:34 You've never read

01:04:36 Every single verse

01:04:37 Of the scriptures

01:04:37 And if you had

01:04:38 I wouldn't believe it

01:04:40 If you said that

01:04:41 You would it

01:04:41 Alright so I'll let you

01:04:42 Speak now

01:04:43 First you said

01:04:44 Don't make assumptions

01:04:44 About you

01:04:45 Then you went

01:04:45 Everyone heard

01:04:46 What I said

01:04:47 Right now you can go

01:04:48 Okay

01:04:48 First you said

01:04:49 Make assumptions

01:04:50 About you

01:04:50 Then you went ahead

01:04:51 By telling me

01:04:51 I didn't read the bible

01:04:52 Even though I stated

01:04:52 Many times I have

01:04:53 Then you

01:04:54 Do you remember

01:04:55 What my question was

01:04:56 Okay how have you

01:04:57 Do you remember

01:04:58 Wait wait

01:04:59 You spoke

01:04:59 I allowed you to speak

01:05:01 For a while

01:05:01 What was my question

01:05:03 To you

01:05:04 That you didn't

01:05:04 Answer at all

01:05:05 What was my question

01:05:05 Name the

01:05:06 Okay

01:05:08 Ten books

01:05:10 Of the bible

01:05:11 What

01:05:13 Name the first

01:05:14 Ten books

01:05:15 Of the bible

01:05:15 That

01:05:16 Okay

01:05:17 That shows

01:05:18 You have

01:05:18 I'm sorry

01:05:19 With older

01:05:19 I cannot

01:05:20 Really

01:05:21 I cannot

01:05:22 Continue more

01:05:22 Than this

01:05:23 If he didn't

01:05:24 Even hear the question

01:05:24 I asked him

01:05:25 What is the oldest

01:05:26 You don't even

01:05:27 Know the names

01:05:27 Of the first

01:05:28 Ten books

01:05:28 Of the bible

01:05:28 If

01:05:29 I asked him

01:05:30 A question

01:05:31 And he doesn't

01:05:32 Even remember

01:05:32 My question

01:05:33 And he went

01:05:33 On a rant

01:05:34 For like

01:05:35 I don't know

01:05:35 I didn't

01:05:37 Interrupt you

01:05:38 Why are you

01:05:39 Why are you

01:05:40 Getting nervous

01:05:41 And interrupting

01:05:42 Me when I'm

01:05:42 Speaking

01:05:43 Anyway

01:05:43 We should

01:05:43 Move on

01:05:44 From that

01:05:44 We already

01:05:45 Know you

01:05:45 Have to

01:05:46 Write the bible

01:05:47 Fully

01:05:47 Is that how

01:05:48 You discuss

01:05:49 You just

01:05:49 Interrupt

01:05:50 Right

01:05:50 That's how

01:05:51 We discuss

01:05:51 That's not

01:05:52 True

01:05:52 No I'm

01:05:53 Just making

01:05:53 Valid points

01:05:54 Go ahead

01:05:54 Valid points

01:05:55 By interrupting

01:05:56 Me

01:05:56 Metoke

01:05:56 I won't

01:05:57 I won't

01:05:58 Interrupt you

01:05:58 Now

01:05:58 Go

01:05:59 Okay

01:05:59 Can you

01:05:59 Repeat to me

01:06:00 Please

01:06:00 Why is the

01:06:01 Question I

01:06:01 Asked you

01:06:02 Go ahead

01:06:03 No no I'm

01:06:04 Asking you

01:06:05 Why is the

01:06:05 Question I

01:06:05 Asked you

01:06:06 No I

01:06:06 I finished my

01:06:08 Point and now

01:06:09 You could

01:06:09 It doesn't

01:06:09 Matter whether

01:06:10 I heard it

01:06:10 Before your

01:06:11 Point I

01:06:11 Asked you

01:06:12 A question

01:06:12 You didn't

01:06:13 Respond to it

01:06:13 You spoke

01:06:14 But you

01:06:14 Didn't

01:06:14 Big state

01:06:15 Big state

01:06:15 On the

01:06:16 Point I

01:06:16 Made

01:06:16 That you

01:06:16 Haven't

01:06:17 Read the

01:06:17 Bible

01:06:17 You don't

01:06:17 Know the

01:06:18 First

01:06:18 Ten

01:06:18 Books

01:06:19 Of

01:06:19 The

01:06:19 Bible

01:06:19 Can't

01:06:19 Name

01:06:19 It

01:06:19 Whatever

01:06:20 I

01:06:20 If

01:06:21 Someone

01:06:21 Says I

01:06:22 Have

01:06:22 Read the

01:06:22 Quran

01:06:22 What do

01:06:23 You say

01:06:23 Okay I

01:06:24 Repeat

01:06:24 We don't

01:06:25 Say that

01:06:25 You ask

01:06:26 Okay recite

01:06:27 The first

01:06:28 Part of

01:06:28 The

01:06:28 Quran

01:06:28 Yeah we

01:06:29 Don't

01:06:29 Tell them

01:06:29 To name

01:06:29 The

01:06:29 Books

01:06:30 Anyways

01:06:30 I

01:06:31 Asked you

01:06:31 A question

01:06:31 But now

01:06:32 You're

01:06:32 Moving

01:06:33 The

01:06:33 Goalpost

01:06:33 And

01:06:33 Avoiding

01:06:34 The

01:06:34 Question

01:06:34 I

01:06:35 Can

01:06:36 Speak

01:06:37 Again

01:06:37 I

01:06:38 Can

01:06:38 Speak

01:06:38 To

01:06:38 Him

01:06:38 If

01:06:38 He's

01:06:38 Interrupting

01:06:39 Like

01:06:39 It

01:06:39 Makes

01:06:40 No

01:06:40 Sense

01:06:40 Well

01:06:40 My

01:06:41 Stream

01:06:41 I

01:06:41 Would

01:06:41 Just

01:06:41 No

01:06:42 No

01:06:43 No

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SNEAKO - August 09, 2024

SNEAKO & Muslim Lantern Educate Demisux On Religion

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