SNEAKO - August 09, 2024
SNEAKO & Muslim Lantern Educate Demisux On Religion
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 9 minutes
Words per Minute
201.03026
Hate Speech Sentences
100
Summary
In this episode, the lads talk about the recent events that have happened in their lives and discuss their opinions on them. We also discuss whether or not they would be offended by a certain comment made by one of the boys.
Transcript
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oh we can call her and then uh and then call you should get some sleep after after we call
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her no that's fine we can get some a bit more time i'll let you know if you want i definitely
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look tired maybe because you came from there but fadger woke us up a bit yeah no no fadger
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always giving us energy as they say yeah energizing us hello hey demi how you doing
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i'm doing phenomenal how are you not bad oh this is your friend uh this is my friend muhammad ali
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um turn the camera on do you have a sweater muhammad ali yes so the boxer yeah i'm just the
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clone oh the boxer i didn't even think of the boxer hello how are you how was the gym the gym was
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phenomenal how was your day i didn't go to the gym i went to dinner but uh my day is pretty good i
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actually slept 17 hours that's what girls say when they turn off the location i was just gonna say
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we know what that's code for yeah yeah i knew it nobody sleeps 17 hours it's okay we're not in a
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relationship if you were whatever you're doing perks remember i told you did you actually take
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percocet no okay i'm not i take something to help my sleep and it made me sleep like 17 hours
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what did you take melatonin okay so that's good to hear so this is my friend um muhammad ali on
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youtube he goes by the muslim lantern uh she so demi called me the other day she had some questions
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about islam yeah so um i i go to to him sometimes when i have questions and advice and uh he i'm the
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guy who brainwashed him basically right yes people say he was brainwashed i'm the one who did the
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one of them yeah shake with man but he helped see um yeah he's joking around but he helped me um he
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helps me sometimes and advise me sometimes when i have questions about and also i had a similar
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situation before where do you know steve will do it yeah he came asking about god and um in a similar
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situation i could have done a better job uh i should have brought in that situation i could
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have done uh i ended up kind of not ambushing him but in a sense yeah anyway anyway so if you have
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any questions about islam i think it'd be um it'd be good to speak to him if you um if you're interested
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well i don't really have any questions i was just more so like trying to learn some stuff because a lot
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of people thought that i didn't like people who were muslim because of my comment but did you see
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the clip that she's referring to what comment was that well i just said i was talking to my friend
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on discord because we were playing like called you together and then i just said as a joke like
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somebody in chat said oh he's trying to help you to get into heaven or something in my chat and i was
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like i'm going to heaven because i'm christian okay but you know who i'm not gonna see there
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and then i said muslims but i said that as a joke because i was just joking even though it's not
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funny but yeah i offended a lot of people by saying that but technically me being a christian i believe
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that right all christians believe that well i wouldn't be offended by you saying that unless
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actually i did right because you have like if you saw me eating bacon you'd be like oh she's
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going to hell no right no i wouldn't do that no i wouldn't do that but but still i don't see an
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issue like with the statement you made like to just say okay like in your belief essentially that
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you're a christian therefore you don't you believe you'll be in heaven uh which is what christians
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believe if you believe jesus died for your sins that you're saved right you have salvation and then
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you say okay according to your belief that muslims are not going to be in that same place
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not going to be in heaven right uh so you're not going to see that but you said it in a joking way
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maybe that's what offended people right but i'll say that uh i'll be honest that's not one of the
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things that would be like okay yeah let's you know get upset about over this and you know cancel as
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they say like like this guy over here or something cancel this individual she got canceled she definitely
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got no no no but some i wouldn't say that but yeah it depends unless you said something else
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there's more context to it what you told me so far i i don't see like a big issue with it
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but yeah so you believe you're going to heaven i'm really surprised you do believe you're going
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to heaven though you're surprised no no yeah yeah i am i'll tell you in a second why but you do believe
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you're going to heaven i'm scared um yeah because i've accepted jesus christ into my heart okay and i
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believe that most things that i like do i can get what it's called like redemption for like if i
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just what is it called the word you're saying repentance she wants to say repentance repentance
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there you go yes okay but what is the repentance jesus forgives right he always forgives who forgives
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jesus jesus forgives jesus but that but that makes no sense though but can i ask you do you believe
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that jesus died for your sins yes does that include the past and future sins
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past my past no all everyone's past and future sins essentially he died for the sins of humanity
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right so why would you repent is forgiven well because i know i shouldn't there's like right right
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and wrong things and i'm obviously going to continue to sin okay and if i do sin and i mess up i know that
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he would forgive me because how do you know that because okay it's the go i'm all right i'm gonna say
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that if jesus died for the sins of humanity past and present then that means that there is no more sins
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to be forgiven because he died for them already everyone is forgiven so if i commit a sin it's
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already included in what jesus died for so i don't need to repent according to christianity then
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yeah but i mean then that's to say that everyone would just do shitty things exactly and i believe
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that's why a lot of people do shitty things all the time and then they just say jesus died for my sins
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i'm going to heaven no there's a difference though okay what's the difference like i could
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accidentally just mess up because i'm human and i just frick up but i know like sometimes what is it
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um like humans what do they have in themselves like they just give into temptation or they have
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temptation desires yeah yes yeah desires all that shit and like obviously you're just gonna have a
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moment of weakness and you just mess up and you just accidentally gave into it but like if you do it
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knowing like i feel like you you knew what we what you were doing was wrong and then you do it
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anyways i mean you could sit there and say that jesus is gonna freak you but you also know that
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you're doing something wrong but everyone was doing something wrong almost everyone is doing something
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wrong they know they're doing something wrong in in very rare cases in situations unless they're
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clinically insane yeah yeah you know you already you know you're doing something wrong when that
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something when when the person is doing something wrong they know this is wrong but they still do
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i mean i've also heard that it's not about intention so i guess you're right but like okay so if i said
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i'm a christian today i'll do whatever i want jesus died for the sins i already believe he's the lord and
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all of this stuff okay but i'm gonna do whatever i want to do then what is the issue because he died for
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the sins yeah but it's all about i mean if you live that way then i'm going to live that way and
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at the end of your life you know you're gonna get judged and if you've genuinely felt that way then
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that's up to you and him but i don't think that i live my way that or my life that way so but judge judge
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for what i'm trying to to get it because the sins are already forgiven right so what am i going to be
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judged for but maybe it's past and present i don't know i'm just okay just think about that
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it's something i'm putting so how does it work in islam you guys are putting me no no no no i want
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you to ask as well i i just found it the reason i told you that is because i hear a lot of christians
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saying we're going to heaven and surprisingly when i read the bible i saw that the bible says all the
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christians most christians if not all the christians today are in reality they do not know jesus
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and they don't really believe in jesus in the right way how if you read the bible first john
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right chapter three it mentions that uh anyone who sins have not known jesus or seen him
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if you continue in sin you're not a real christian essentially you're a child of the devil
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and it says whoever that has jesus in him he cannot sin so i'm thinking okay if the bible says that and
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the christians say it says whoever is born of god cannot commit sin it says that word for word you
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can open it by the way right now and read it you want to open it up and actually read it i don't
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have the bible oh no no him you don't own a bible i'm just kidding i do wait let's actually have a
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wait i feel like that's weird if i do that no go get it go get it anyways oh you can open it up you
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can open it up you can open it up and maybe share the screen or something if you want is it far
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away um you don't have a bible okay now i have to prove that i have one okay all right there she
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goes look at her go see good sweater she put on a good sweater we should keep it a little lower yeah
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don't don't try to go you know a little lower i forgot you had the headphones on my headphones on
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i thought you walked away no he he feels i'm a bit maybe like the direct to direct with you or
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something that's how he feels yeah oh no i don't mind yeah i'm a twitter kick streamer i have
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i face a lot already as it is okay what that is going to john yeah yeah that is going to be the
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last question by the way because i don't want to put you on the bible you can ask me anything
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which is first john basically one john chapter three i believe go to verse four i think start from
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um i don't really know where it is in the bible so let me open yeah so like the letters of peter
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one john etc if you go new testament towards the end new testament new testament yeah not the old
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testament new testament yeah i saw peter oh i found it okay
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also i think it'd be good she wants to learn more about islam as well so let's try to
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yeah yeah of course i'm gonna get into islam after this right after this
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you're scaring me no this is like a test its own right now finding this thing
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yeah we can we can let it go then we can move on from it if it's difficult too difficult to find
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people can do research on it later it's not which is that king james which version of the bible
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am i looking for it's one john chapter three oh is that one john are we good yeah is it that's the
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king james version um whichever one whichever one is okay it's whichever one is okay it's one john
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uh chapter three then you have verse four can you read what verse four says
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chad i've never seen you move this fast how can someone be born when they are old that one
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uh you have first john chapter three wait there's still there's two johns
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yeah there is first one john there is two john i'm opening the glossary
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it's okay it's just yeah i think you can move or can move away from from this it's okay people can
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just do research on it unless you really want to read it it's up to you i really do want to read
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it okay all right yeah you can find it no problem i will find it and we will continue this just give
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me some time no problem i'm rotating right now what is one
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why doesn't it say what page it starts on so it's this one basically yeah okay let's just read it
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okay yeah read it oh why are you closing it i'm just opening it i'm just opening the link right
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one second here let's let's get the full thing you can read it if you want read from four
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if you go to four this is a christian website right bible gateway okay uh first john chapter three
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you read from verse four everyone who sins breaks the law in fact sin is lawlessness but you know
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that he appeared so that he might take away our sins and in him is no sin no one who lives in him
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keeps on sinning no one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him so the people continue
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continue it's not done it's actually i know where you're gonna go more detailed it's actually more
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detailed yeah dear children do not let anyone who leads you astray the one who does what is right
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and righteous just as he is righteous the one who does what is sinful is of the devil because the devil
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has been sinning from the beginning the reason the son of god appeared was to destroy the devil's
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work no one who is born of god will continue to sin because god's seed remains in them they cannot go
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on sinning because they have been born of god this is how we know who the children of god are and who
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the children of the devil are anyone who does not do what is right is not god's child nor is anyone who
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does not love their brother and sister i like this the bible is good i like that i agree with this
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well most of it but okay yeah so the idea there is basically if if you know jesus and if you're born
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of god if you're a child of god you cannot continue to commit any sins because jesus is in you and uh
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if you do then that means that you are not a child of god you're a child of the devil so why are you
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surprised that demi said that she thinks she's going to go to heaven she's not that that's because i mean
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if someone reads the bible and reads these verses and he's committing sins i wouldn't be thinking i'm
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going to hell but how is she sitting sorry how was uh demi sitting oh i don't know her personal
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life specifically but i'm saying to from us from a muslim's uh point of view us saying we're going
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to heaven is already being boostful in a way right thinking that you've got everything guaranteed that
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it doesn't matter okay how do you know what you're gonna die upon right maybe today even if christianity
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was the truth and if you die as a christian you go to heaven how do you don't tomorrow you're not
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going to become an atheist or something else to say by 100 certainty i'm going to heaven in islam you
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cannot do that if you die as a muslim you go to heaven yes but how do you know you're going to
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die as a muslim yeah but it's not like being literal like you could say like in a week from
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now i'm going to africa but you could die tomorrow yes then you're not going to go to africa yeah
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you're not but how you don't know but yes you're doing everything to get yourself into heaven and
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you're practicing everything you're practicing and sure but you can say that yes we want to live it
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so that you can eventually ultimately get to heaven yes but i'm yeah i don't know i could
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tomorrow just start my villain story and just go crazy and just hopefully that's it don't do that
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no i'm not but i'm just saying you know you never know yes so this one that's what i was saying
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essentially that's the islamic position is you say okay i'm trying my best of course to go to heaven
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right but we wouldn't say essentially as a muslim i'm going to heaven or we wouldn't also say this
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specific person is going to hellfire because if you say a person can change a person can we cannot
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say the specific person is going here or there you asked about the sin how is it from the muslim
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perspective no one dies for our sins in islam we're responsible for what we do if jesus was innocent
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then how can an innocent person be punished for what i do i should be punished for what i do because
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i'm the one who did the evil the innocent person should not be punished for what i did right so how do
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you guys believe you guys are gonna get into heaven we're judged for our actions of what we
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do and our decisions so you guys are not supposed to eat pork so if you eat pork then what happens
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well we're judged accordingly like uh based on everything we do if we do more good deeds than
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bad deeds then most likely we're going to to make it to jana yeah so essentially essentially there's
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commands of god there's minor sins and major sins if you avoid the the major sins uh allah forget
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allah forgives your minor sins uh if you do your obligations you pray you do the things the way
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allah commanded you to do them if you do a major sin you can repent repentance means you have to stop
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not do it again have no intention of returning to that sin uh tomorrow or next time and have actual
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regret in your heart from doing that sin now how do we attain paradise is actually by doing as much
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good as we can in that way we when we die we've not done many good we've not done a lot of bad we've
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done more good than we did bad and through that we attain god's mercy so god he forgives us because
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we did our best and then we go to paradise sounds like very similar to the way i feel like christians
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live no no but the difference is like uh and we know a lot of christians like this they'll do a lot
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of uh they'll send quite a bit though and at the end of the day it's like oh jesus saves me they'll send
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publicly they'll do things that they know are wrong but jesus will save me because i believe
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in jesus in my heart of hearts it's not really the judgment of your actions and judging the fact
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that we all have free will it's just the professing that jesus will save me is enough to make it into
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heaven we don't believe that but if you're only doing good things so that you can make it into
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heaven i feel like that also doesn't really sound valid like why else would you do good things like
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if i ate pork and that's minus 25 points whatever points yeah and then it's like okay well now i'm
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gonna pray three times a day so that i can have plus 75 well he just said that you you can't you
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can't pray you can't commit a sin thinking that you're gonna pray at all if you have to actually
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regret and you actually have to go forward and not do it again you have to stop doing it what i'm
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saying is that if you're only doing it so that you can make it to heaven you're only doing the good
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stuff now it's not only going to heaven as well it's not only going to heaven because we as muslims
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also of course you have a relationship with god right you love god you want to be connected with
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god not only that the greatest reward we get in paradise as muslims is to see god actually
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if anything in this life is beautiful then the source of beauty is the creator is god
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and what and the greatest reward we believe will get as muslims to actually see god in paradise
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so it's not necessarily just that there is of course a connection with god that is there
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but these are incentives and human beings work on incentives and work on warnings as well
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that's how we function that's why in society you have laws where you have okay you work you get
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money as an incentive you do a crime you get a punishment as a as a warning right uh so this is
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how we function as human beings right and the creator based on how we are as human beings has
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i agree okay you agree yeah i agree with what he said yeah so you know what about what about god
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like how do you see god as muslims for instance we believe is one creator one god we believe that god
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is not a man or a woman so we believe allah is not a man or a woman is not restricted by gender that's
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why we don't say jesus is god or prophet muhammad is god or moses is god we don't say any human being
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is god see god is not is beyond our conception and imagination whatever we can think about
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god is beyond that right so you don't picture like a man no picture do you picture do you picture
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a man when you picture god well i picture like jesus christ and then like the way that i picture him
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is just like how most people perceive him like the man with the long hair and like beard but i know he's
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not supposed to be a man like i don't think that they say that about him either even though they
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well jesus was a man because if he died then he must have been a man he was mortal i swear i've seen
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somewhere where it's like like the way it's phrased in the bible that like do you want to go for
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he was a man but like he wasn't a man like he was in the form of a human but he wasn't actually a man
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like he was just like yeah so human there is something called the hypostatic union is what
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you're talking about the hypostatic union is that they say he's fully man fully god you don't say he
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wasn't a man but they say he was two things in one we say from our perspective that doesn't make any
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sense to us but but the christian position is that he's 100 man in the same time he's 100 god
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the bible says for example or paul in this case he would say there's one intermediate and then he says
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the man jesus christ so he calls him a man right so he's called the man explicitly in the bible
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uh he's never called god explicitly he never says i'm god in the bible that doesn't occur anywhere but
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he is explicitly called the man they do say jesus is the way the truth and the light yeah of course
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this is john 14 6 kind of quotation but okay if jesus is the way if i take the way this way here to get
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to the mole the way is not the mole is it so if jesus is the way to god then he's not god because he's
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the way to god if you're the way the way to something you're not the destination
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but he could just be like a particle of him like do you believe god is physical in that sense that
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is made of particles and you can have a part that that would be a part of god that would be a heresy
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that was just like a synonym yeah whatever metaphor i'm stupid but no no it's not like i think it's just
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like wasn't he just i don't know i feel like i don't know enough to speak on this i wish i was
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yeah so that's why these conversations are good yeah you see you know in christianity if you say
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god is made of parts they call that a heresy this is called partialism right you can google it if
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right now if you like it's basically you cannot say god is made of parts god is not like you can
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divide him and this part and that part even christians don't yeah even christians no i don't think that
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either i think just like i don't even know how to explain it just
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like he was just put on earth and then so let me let me ask let me ask a different a different
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question maybe right so about the identity of jesus as muslims we believe jesus was chosen by god as a
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prophet as a messenger of god to deliver a message to the people about god tell them about god tell them
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what is good tell them what is bad to avoid tell them to connect to the creator and worship god
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alone just like the other prophets and messengers did this is our position on jesus just like prophet
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muhammad did we don't worship prophet muhammad we don't worship any human beings worship the creator
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alone so when you look at jesus for example you picture jesus when you pray
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if you picture jesus when you pray as he is god then can god pray to someone else the god that you pray
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to is praying to someone else does that make any sense yeah but didn't no other prophet turn water
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to wine and all this other stuff the prophets perform miracles yeah do you know of any other
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prophet that split the sea other than moses do you know any other prophet who had an ark other than
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noah they have unique miracles as prophets well actually noah had the ark yeah this is all these
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are the prophets that are in the bible as well and then uh i did i mean in the bible jesus did pray
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so if jesus is god who was he who was jesus praying to i wish i knew how to like say what i'm trying to
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say but like he was like i feel like he was just trying to live his life like he was human like he did
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all things like he tried to be one with how a human person was and then so the prayer was just
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an act not an act but like i don't know i feel like just yeah i'll kind of was doing but in like
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to understand how humans are yeah the christians essentially say that he took on a human form so
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he can relate to the people right he related i'm saying generally what christians generally say i think
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that's what you're trying to say as well right is that he took a human form so he can relate to the
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creation to the people in a way that is relatable right he's a human like us etc right but the fact
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the reason we worship god is because he's not like us the whole reason you worship the creator is
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because he's not like us and if the creator ever becomes like us then he's no longer worthy of our
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worship because he's a human like us now so if the creator if ever becomes a human being he's no longer
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god because whatever we call god is the all-knowing omniscient omnipotent all-powerful all of that
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he's no longer god but wouldn't you relate to somebody more who is more like you yes yes yes
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some of you yes yes i agree i don't think that's anything that's bad if you love absolutely i agree
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with you but that's why allah sends prophets and messengers as humans so we can relate and follow
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their example the humans like us that's why even allah says in the quran that we didn't send them an
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angel because if we were to send them an angel they would say that's a perfect being we cannot follow
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perfect beings right so allah sent a human being a prophet a messenger and we can imitate and learn
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and see they're the best of the human beings we can look at them and imitate their behavior
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but god himself i'm saying if he ever turns into anything other than god he's no longer worthy of
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our worship like like imagine yeah what what do you uh disagree with that i that last part that like
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if he became anything like a human that he wouldn't be why do you worship god let me ask this question
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why do you worship god um i don't know because he's died for my sins so you were talking before
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about the selfish thing of going to paradise because uh you're doing good to go to paradise but it's the
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same thing to say i worship god because he did something for me that for my sins isn't that the same
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thing yeah yeah so so what i'm trying to say yeah she's getting distracted it's okay okay
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i'm not i'm just dumb no you're not dumb i mean you're you're smart enough to ask these questions a
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lot of people are yeah are so ignorant they don't even want to go and seek the truth the fact that
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you're even in this position having this conversation proves you're not dumb yeah plus we're like we're not
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looking let's make this clear as well for anyone listening like we're we're not looking at you like
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you are like a christian authority scholar or something like that right and like you're
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representing christianity she's a new christian too she's done christianity like seven months yeah
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and if you say something wrong now oh we defeated christianity we're not trying to do that it's not
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that's not what we're doing right we're just having a conversation it's gonna happen no no no it's
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not that's why i'm making it clear from my side not from your side no i'm not saying
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either of us are doing this i'm just saying that oh there's definitely a christian chat right now
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like why isn't she saying this well because you're new to christianity and you don't know all the
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answer and to be honest i've spoken to christians who are like been were born with it and they've done
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a lot of studying and they say the same things so i don't even think that your rhetoric is that off
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from most christians it's not x there you go okay yeah so so this is like the message of islam is
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really simple right it's it's about connecting with god like you believe right it's about connecting
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with the creator through the messengers of god that come they give the message to the creation
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right we believe jesus we believe in him we believe in the that mary gave the virgin birth we
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believe he was the messiah we believe in moses believe in abraham believe in david most of the
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prophets that you maybe heard about we believe in them we we don't have we say peace be upon all of
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them right and if if a muslim doesn't believe in jesus moses or noah etc he's not a muslim
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you have to believe in all of them not just believe say i believe only in prophet muhammad you can't
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you have to believe in all of the prophets and messengers of god cannot reject any of them right
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and their message was similar that to worship one god alone like jesus taught people to worship
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the creator alone not to associate partners with him jesus didn't say to the people come worship me
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pray when you pray imagine me picture me he never said to the people that in fact when he taught
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people that the prayer the heavenly father prayer our father in heaven he's all about god it's not
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about him like his name is not is not mentioned anything about him is not mentioned he doesn't
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say to the people pray to me at all he said pray to the creator alone worship him alone and this is
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the message of islam same message of prophet muhammad uh alayhi sallallahu alayhi sallam same thing
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that's like i never realized that about our father who are in heaven how it be a name
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it is all about your kingdom come your it's all that will be done on earth as it is in heaven yeah
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that seems like wait so why do you guys worship god that's an excellent question because the creator
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has the attributes that are worthy of worship he's the most beautiful when you talk about beauty he's
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the most merciful he's the most powerful he's the most wise so we worship him because he created us
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he's a creator right he has these perfect attributes that are worthy of worship so if he does not have
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these perfect attributes then he's not worthy of worship anymore he's not god whatever we call
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god is that when a human being thinks of god he thinks of the that being that has the control over
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the creation or everyone the one who gives lives and takes life away the one who knows everything
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right the one who protects you this is how what we think when we say god so whoever doesn't have
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these attributes will be okay that's not god like that's why you wouldn't worship like a friend of
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yours or another human being walking around them in the street you know this is just another human being
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like you right that's why we say for for example to other religions okay we ask them okay why would
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you worship a cow why would you worship a tree why would you worship an idol these are things that
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are made that are created that are like you in a way right what would you why would you worship these
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things we say we worship the creator because he's the one worthy of worship so when we look at that's
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why as muslims we say you look at we look at jesus or prophet muhammad let's use prophet muhammad as an
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example we say prophet muhammad is a human we're humans prophet muhammad is not worthy of our worship
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The creator is the one who will resurrect everyone