00:00:00.000On the show today we're going to be talking about a wide variety of World Cup related stuff as well as watching a grizzly bear attack in Canada and are we talking to Sean Stone?
00:00:09.000Welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand!
00:00:30.000Hello, welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:32.000We're doing the show in a live environment now, not just with Americans, but an actual lady of the realm who we may have to cut out.
00:00:53.000We've got Sean Stone on the show a little bit later, and we'll be talking to him about his film RFK Legacy, where two generations of filmmakers, that being Sean and Oliver Stone, talk about.
00:01:02.000Two generations of great American politicians, Robert Kennedy Sr. and Jr.
00:01:07.000Before that, though, are you lot following the World Cup that's in your country right now, fellow Americans?
00:01:16.000Okay, well, then I want to see what emotional response you have to America or the USA conceding a late goal because we British people and Europeans think you don't care about football, as we call it, because it's a sport that everyone plays, not just you, and you only like this is what we think about you.
00:01:34.000I'm just letting you know, this is what we think about you.
00:01:36.000We think you only do sports that only you do so that you win them all the time, all right?
00:01:42.000And here is the list of those sports American football, right?
00:02:57.000Childlike skill, Guler that set things up, and then when it fell, and Ashun with the first shot blocked, and then he slides in to finish through Matola's legs.
00:03:14.000Freeman, it was with the touch, and then just when you need your forward player to be.
00:03:23.000Well, you actually did feel feelings there, did you?
00:03:25.000I told them last night, and now you're making me enjoy it.
00:04:17.000It's not like my geography book taught me wrong.
00:04:19.000Maybe, because I don't, you know, in a minute we'll be talking to Sean Stone, so you'll learn to understand that everything that you've ever learned is a conspiracy theory.
00:04:31.000So maybe it's like, you know how British, we don't call, we've been calling the Netherlands Holland always, Jake.
00:04:38.000And they don't, that's not what they call themselves.
00:04:42.000They call themselves the Niederland, don't they?
00:04:45.000But you're supposed to call countries, are you supposed to call countries what they call themselves, or have we got free reign to impose names on them?
00:04:54.000I'm an Englishman, and I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome you back to the colonies and to finally acknowledge that this experiment hasn't worked out too well for you.
00:05:03.000Okay, so also from the World Cup is, oh yeah, the FIFA present.
00:05:53.000They're doing it with a D. That's how they're doing it.
00:05:56.000So, this World Cup across the entire North America and part of Central America is a real, it's kind of an educational experience, I reckon, isn't it, for all of you to encounter all of these new words, all of these new terms, all of these new names.
00:06:35.000Well, I think the plan is to make everything in the world a little bit like an airport, to banalize all of reality so that you feel like you're completely controlled wherever you are.
00:06:44.000All the time, and you're continually going through regulations and checks like in COVID, that you have to have a PCR tech.
00:07:10.000Yeah, I think that what's happening is that through continually escalating the level of fear that we all live with, we're experiencing authoritarianism.
00:07:21.000The normalization of authoritarianism.
00:07:23.000For example, people can't even just look at their phone anymore without someone interceding and telling them, put your phone down, hurts my feelings.
00:11:24.000That's happened many times in my life.
00:11:26.000If I could list the number of times, I'll list a few of them, where I've been in situations where I've tried to.
00:11:30.000One time I was in a riot, and the police, when they're breaking up a riot, they do a thing that's called kettling, where to break the riot into smaller bits, they lead parts of the riot into areas that they can police and control.
00:12:28.000If you're a drug addict and you travel, you do need to put drugs somewhere on your person because otherwise, when you get to the place, you might not have drugs.
00:12:34.000And the safest place, I'm sorry to tell you, to put drugs if you're going to smuggle is in what you might call the only pockets the body provides.
00:15:47.000Because we watched his documentary and it sort of like feels a bit.
00:15:50.000Blair Witchy, like, I mean, Sean will tell you about this when he comes out, but him and his friends, while looking for locations to make a horror movie, went in a bunch of abandoned mental institutions, like in New Jersey, in particular the Greystone abandoned mental institution.
00:16:05.000Would you go into an abandoned mental institute at night, Vicky?
00:16:29.000So, you wouldn't have any fear in going, yeah, and then they can hold it, and that's pretty good, yeah, I suppose it gives us the challenge of what to do with you, yeah.
00:16:36.000It's good, we're just working stuff out.
00:16:37.000Like, well, in that film, in Sean Stone's film, Secret Stone, he goes, him and his sort of handsome agitator, actor, mate, go into, like, crazy, spooky environments, and then you hear weird screams downstairs and things like that.
00:18:08.000Anyway, Sean Stone is a man who would happily deal with it.
00:18:10.000Please, ladies and gentlemen, welcome from behind the door actor, entertainer, filmmaker, conspiracy theorist, friend, and definite future collaborator, Sean Stone from behind the monkey door.
00:19:04.000Oh, yeah, no, that's a gesture we don't like.
00:19:06.000You'll have noticed if you're watching contemporary politics that all politicians have been instructed that no one likes being pointed at, but they want you, that you must look powerful.
00:19:15.000And the way to handle that is to put your thumb.
00:19:26.000Now, in a sense, there's so much to cover with you.
00:19:29.000I want to talk a little bit about the extraordinary experience we had yesterday watching your documentary, Secret Stone, where you went into abandoned mental hospitals and creepy haunted houses and encountered paranormal activity.
00:19:44.000Now, on one hand, I felt cynical because I've been involved in making content for a long time and thought, oh, God, no, this can't be real.
00:19:49.000But on the other hand, there was a Power cut, a really creepy bit of the movie that made me think, oh no, maybe it is real.
00:19:56.000So, Sean, why don't we start there, given that that's what we were talking about?
00:20:00.000That's probably one of your early films, I reckon.
00:20:02.000You were just in your early 20s when you started that process.
00:20:04.000Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, going back in time, I was 2009.
00:20:11.000I just graduated college in 2006, and I worked with my dad on a couple of films in Alexander.
00:20:17.000I'd shot the behind the scenes, I went to shoot behind the scenes on W. About George W. Bush, and I got to work with him in the editing room.
00:20:25.000So then I went to work with him after that on his Untold History of the United States documentary series.
00:21:15.000So, why was it difficult for you to work with him?
00:21:18.000It was difficult for me because, for multiple reasons.
00:21:21.000You know, one, when you have your own ambition or direction, you know, as a creator, um, It's difficult to just take commands from someone else.
00:21:31.000And fundamentally, that was a big, you know, that was a huge project.
00:21:34.000He's, you know, a 10 part documentary series, and the scripts kept changing.
00:21:38.000And he was busy because his attention was drawn to Wall Street 2 at that point.
00:21:43.000He'd been finishing W, he went to Wall Street 2 next.
00:21:48.000And so I would come with a cut based on the script, and he wasn't happy with it.
00:21:52.000And it's like, well, that's the script you gave me.
00:21:54.000So I felt very much like I needed to clear, I didn't want to sit in the editing room.
00:21:59.000And twiddle around and play with something that didn't feel like it was mine and didn't feel like it was clearly directed in the sense that it took my dad five years ultimately to make that.
00:22:08.000So the editor that sat there for five years had to go through probably 50 cuts, and I didn't have the patience.
00:22:44.000That's Greystone, where Woody Guthrie, the great American songwriter and folk musician and hero, are in those scenes where Bob Dylan is visiting Woody Guthrie in hospital.
00:22:56.000So it's one of those famous old institutions.
00:22:59.000Now, one of the things I was struck by when watching your film, Stone Street, sorry, Secret Stone, that you were making while making Greystone, because you were involved in two projects the scripted horror movie.
00:23:13.000That you were scouting locations for when you encountered these places was I started to think about like mental institutions and the sort of now accepted fact that both the MI5 in my country and the CIA in yours have got the MKUltra programs, they acknowledge that they took people from mental hospitals and did like experiments on them.
00:23:34.000So weird stuff goes on, weird creepy stuff, hot cold pressure baths, and what do they call them?
00:23:41.000Like you know, basically experimentation.
00:23:44.000Now, Greystone, I don't think was listed in the MKUltra documents, but remember.
00:23:49.000The mind control projects, and there were multiple, it wasn't just MKUltra, it was the most famous one, but they were working with a number of foundations and institutions all the way into Canada.
00:24:00.000And I don't think Greystone was ever listed in what I've seen, but most of those documents were shredded.
00:24:05.000So we don't know the full extent of who was involved in those experiments.
00:24:12.000But certainly the nature of the mental hospitals leads itself to abuse.
00:24:18.000And that's why Greystone was shut down.
00:24:20.000It was shut down for abuse of patients.
00:25:16.000And even if you think any of it was staged, which I never staged any of it, but even if you think it was, I know that there are things that could not have been staged.
00:25:25.000There was no way that, you know, there was no way it could have been staged or something else at work.
00:25:31.000Yeah, because in that film, Secret Stone, those of you that haven't seen it, and we do a watch along, so you can, on this channel, you can click the link in the description now and you can watch Sean's film.
00:25:42.000What I was really struck by is this I am Christian and therefore believe in the supernatural.
00:25:49.000Even before coming to Christ, I believed in supernatural activity.
00:25:53.000I've had some unusual and strange encounters in my life, and if you, Are a devout person, you accept realms of angels and demons.
00:26:02.000And when we watch it, and also in the post Epstein file age, we've all got to be open to the levels of corruption that likely incorporate not only the exploitation that takes place in these institutions where exhausted and weary staff kid old people and mentally ill people, that kind of thing we're familiar with, but it sort of seems like there's a tacit, not tacit, sort of.
00:26:28.000Implicit and ongoing relationship between children's homes and mental hospitals and weird occultist sexually exploitative stuff.
00:26:37.000There's many examples of it in the UK.
00:26:40.000And more anecdotally, I've been struck by how, when listening to mentally ill people, and I have to listen to them a lot because I am one and I hang around with them, like how often they have anecdotes that have consistent themes in them, like mentally ill people sort of talking about being monitored and machines and encounters with entities that remind me sort of of things I've heard from people describing psychedelic encounters.
00:27:04.000So I've struck, therefore, Sean, in a way, by my own cynicism and my own reluctance.
00:27:10.000When I was watching the film, there are really scary bits where Sean's in an alleged haunted house where terrible, murderous, and awfully abusive things were alleged to have taken place, both in terms of lore and legend.
00:27:25.000And some things I think were a matter of public record.
00:27:27.000And then while Alex and Sean were there, there are mad, eerie screams and smashes.
00:27:33.000But my sort of reaction, first of all, me and Jake were like, oh man, we're freaking out, I'm really into it.
00:27:38.000Then there's a certain point where I'm like, no, I'm not having this.
00:27:43.000Sort of unsure which part of myself to listen to.
00:27:46.000The skepticism that's generally protective, like a self protection mechanism when it comes to not wanting to look foolish or feel as if you've been duped, but also recognizing that I know there's more to reality than what is superficial and acknowledged.
00:28:02.000Well, it's like we were talking about you've seen possession in different forms.
00:28:07.000If you've seen it with alcoholism or drugs or multiple personality disorders, I mean, all of this is indicative of something going on within the psyche that.
00:28:18.000It's like you are no longer you, whatever we consider ourselves to be, that is the great mystery, is no longer in charge, right?
00:28:25.000When you see that take place in someone.
00:28:28.000And so in the film, we show cases, instances where people are taken over moment to moment.
00:28:33.000It's not like with alcohol where they get to a certain point and you look in that person and their eyes are black and they're screaming or saying something that the next day they don't remember.
00:29:36.000But the thing with acting is like when Denzel talked about, you know, he getting ready for his role in glory, he's like, he wasn't hitting the mark.
00:29:45.000There was a ghostly sound right then in the room, Sean.
00:30:34.000But in addition to that, has anyone here had any supernatural experiences that are in accordance with what our beloved friend Sean is describing?
00:30:47.000Anyone here got anything to add when it comes to supernatural activity?
00:30:53.000Sway, Mr. Holotick, Pat Sings, I know pretty much everyone's name now.
00:31:25.000Join us Friday for the second part of this conversation with Sean Stone.
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00:32:44.000Hey, remember, me and my wife Laura every weekend make this podcast.
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00:32:53.000It's difficult to explain, but here is a section to give you an idea of what we talk about.
00:33:08.000How did you teach the children to pray?
00:33:11.000Well, after we prayed together as a family and we noticed what it brought up for us as a family like the kids not listening, not sitting still, mucking around.
00:33:25.000I noticed what it brought up for me was furious rage.
00:33:28.000In the Screw Tape Letters by C.S. Lewis, which depicts a realm of demons who are the occupants of a bureaucracy mentoring one another.
00:33:38.000Screw tape to Wormwood in the case of the Screw Tape letters.
00:33:43.000He talks about the ways in which the demonic elements and the demonic entities, occupants of bureaucracies, which I think is so brilliant because surely bureaucracies are one of the ways that human beings are dehumanized.
00:33:57.000There's one bit where Screw Tape says to Wormwood, the ideal state is you could get it so that you could have your man in a state of rapturous prayer, then hear his mother make a noise in the other room and like scream expletives and curses at her.
00:34:10.000Well, it was almost exactly this state that I was in when I tried to briefly pray with the family.
00:34:15.000We pray every day together, but I like to pray.
00:34:19.000The distance between me waking up in the morning and getting into my prayer closet, my prayer closet, that should be as short as possible because nothing good can happen to me between waking and praying.
00:34:32.000The same way as when I was a drug addict, it was a supreme priority to get drugs in my body.
00:34:38.000When it was weird, I used to keep it just by the bed.
00:34:40.000When it was booze, I used to keep it by the bed.
00:34:42.000When it was Other, more enhanced, I would keep the accoutrements local.
00:34:48.000And of course, addiction is the material expression of the longing for God.
00:34:52.000Anyway, nonetheless, I am so fallen and so broken, and I was so impatient, so disappointed that our kids couldn't just sit still and participate in some pretty rudimentary prayer.
00:35:00.000But it led to a good experience because when I stormed off tempestuously to be alone, I said, Laura, I think you're going to have to handle this.
00:35:09.000So, what I did was I sat the girls down and I explained to them.
00:35:13.000The same way that when I homeschool them and they don't listen, it feels really demoralizing.
00:35:21.000It feels very, very difficult for me to continue with the same sort of enthusiasm to teach them one thing on one day, for them to not listen, and for me to keep saying, you know, come on, girls, sit down.
00:35:38.000Now listen, read that back, repeat that back to me.
00:36:30.000So, in order to try and get into a much more kind of organic flow of the day and natural place to start from, a foundation for the day, if you will, prayer is important.
00:36:44.000And I started by saying that I said, I find it difficult to stay still.
00:36:47.000I find it difficult to not be agitated if a fly comes across.
00:36:51.000Like, if I feel like something lands on me, or if I want to bite my nails, or if I want to fidget and poke a bit of hair and all the stuff, or if my knees hurt, if we're preying on our knees, for example, it hurts.
00:37:02.000And so you have to kind of go through that and like work out how to get comfortable.
00:37:07.000So I sat them down and I said, right, we are going to have a positive morning working through how to pray.
00:37:14.000So what we did was we started with being still.
00:37:17.000And what I realized is the being still was the problem.
00:37:22.000So when I asked them to be still, one of our daughters was pretty good at it, but had a lot going on in her mind.
00:37:29.000So what I said was just be still for a minute, close your eyes.
00:37:33.000Every time something agitates you, annoys you, or you get distracted, I want you to say what the thing is.
00:37:39.000So, one of our daughters was saying, you know, elbow, knee, headache.
00:38:29.000So we could see, I could see that one of our daughters was good at sitting still, but had a lot going on internally, like, you know, the elbow, the knee, the headache.
00:38:36.000But given that exercise of just listing it was just listing it, yeah.
00:39:07.000Could have been a bloke at a bus stop.
00:39:11.000Could be a daughter, one daughter, putting her feet up on the table.
00:39:15.000Would not shut her eyes, like literally could not stop looking around, scratching, biting nails, doing stuff.
00:39:21.000And I was like, Look, just please sit still, get comfortable.
00:39:26.000She's like, Well, I'm not comfortable on the chair.
00:39:27.000I said, Well, make yourself comfortable.
00:39:29.000And I said, And the same applies when we pray in the morning.
00:39:31.000If you go to and you know it's prayer, grab a pillow or a blanket and make sure that when we pray, you're seated or you're sitting comfortably, or if we're around a table or whatever it is.
00:39:42.000Because sometimes you just get into a position because you're just there and then and you want to rush into it and you're just sort of hum.
00:39:48.000And then you realize, like us with our knees, when we're doing this, yeah, be comfortable.
00:39:51.000Otherwise, you can't be in the moment, you can't be comfortable, you'll be agitated the whole time.
00:39:55.000So, a lot of Zen masters, though, lore they give you a whack, yeah, they teach with wax.
00:40:01.000I'm not teaching with lashings and wax, but I can imagine that that's pretty good because you're tested.
00:40:06.000I just feel for children, the idea of like trying to get them to be still and be calm and close their eyes is such a big hurdle, but then trying to get them used to the idea of enjoying the discomfort is a whole different thing.
00:40:22.000For later in life, be still and know that I'm God.
00:40:25.000Yeah, be still and take every thought captive.
00:40:27.000Yeah, seek the first of the kingdom of God, and all this and his righteousness will be granted unto you.
00:40:52.000Like in a place where there is a lot less civilization, a lot less institutionalism, a lot less cultural ephemera, a lot less distraction, the spirit is coming through so powerful.
00:41:02.000Like, and we go to churches in places where, you know, Bible Belt, you know, places where the, you know, but the singing is better than England.
00:41:09.000Oh, yeah, it's a chorus, it's a quiet.
00:41:17.000These people are like, like God is roaring out of their lower chakras.
00:41:51.000Let the Holy Spirit translate it for you.
00:41:54.000Because I don't know nothing about planting those seeds.
00:41:57.000I don't know nothing about putting your fishing nets in the water and getting some fish out.
00:42:01.000I don't know nothing about moving a mountain with a mustard seed of faith unless I let the Holy Spirit interpret it or taking every force captive.
00:42:08.000I mean, when you read this stuff in King James language, it just sounds like sort of Shakespeare, which we know is sort of magnificent poetry.
00:42:14.000Poetry is the ability to create meaning that goes beyond the literal signifiers on the page or even the signifiers that appear in the mind to conjure images that reach down to the source of reality.
00:42:27.000And that's one of the great spiritual claims.
00:42:29.000This sensory world is an expression of a deeper reality that has a creator, a God.
00:42:37.000Actually, if you can't measure it, it's not there.
00:42:40.000That the underlying principle is chaos and everything's falling apart.
00:42:43.000Indeed, the metronome experiment, let's put a link to that, actually.
00:42:47.000I watched it the other day while doing some Joe Dispenza work, but the metronome experiment is fantastic.
00:42:52.000If you put a lot of chaotic metronomes down, tick, all chaotically and disorderly, disorder, disorder, and, uh, Cacophonous, a rhythmic way over time, they start to move in harmony.
00:43:08.000That means there is an invisible tendency towards order.
00:43:13.000It's like the arm of a loving father being placed around you and saying, No, chaos is not the final thing, not decay, not death, which are the product of the serpent, which are the product of stepping outside of God's grace and reality.
00:43:25.000When we watched that video yesterday, Russell's known this about me.
00:43:30.000I've always been a big fan of river dance.
00:43:35.000I knew that Riverdance would come marching in a column into this podcast one day.
00:44:22.000I mean, it's not just me, it's why it's one of the most successful productions on the stage all this time.
00:44:28.000It's this watching a group of 50 people dance at the same time and the way their legs move was to me like watching the metronomes go in the same way.
00:44:39.000Like, The ticking, it was like the legs when they're tapping.
00:44:42.000And I said to Russell, maybe this is why I love river dancing.
00:44:54.000Chaos, disturbance, disruption, but there is also stagnation.
00:44:58.000So, seeing the orderly beat of the metronome, or indeed, you know, just the rhythms and patterns of math and music themselves, is beautiful precisely because it shows that there is an order.
00:45:17.000That for some reason contained a bunch of rules in it that perfectly facilitate all forms of life.
00:45:24.000You yourself have this natural tendency to worship and adore and revere order and patterns and beauty and grace.
00:45:32.000In fact, my friend, to your point about Riverdance, which I mean, I do like seeing him clip clop about, but you know, Michael Flatley, he's always sort of like an ultra sexy person, isn't he?
00:46:02.000I hope Massey Ed puts in a real good clip of Michael Flatley in his prime.
00:46:14.000And see if everybody can comment on that.
00:46:16.000What I will say to you, and forgive the hubris in this, that all the men you had crushes on before we married, I think were always leading you to me.
00:47:22.000No, actually, what I was actually going to say was, um, in this book, which weirdly I was just picking up, it was on the shelf behind us, Ralph Waldo Emerson, who I really know nothing about, by the way.
00:47:34.000Okay, but I actually, one of the girls slash me got you this for your birthday, Father's Day, Nature and Other Essays.
00:47:42.000And one of the things that he says, you'll really find this very interesting, especially with what you're talking about with the metronomes and things.
00:47:52.000And it says, like, in view of the significance of nature, we arrive at once at a new fact that nature is a discipline.
00:48:00.000This use of the world includes the preceding uses as parts of itself space, time, society, labor, climate, food, locomotion, the animals, the mechanical forces give us sincerest lessons day by day, whose meaning is unlimited.
00:48:14.000And it basically goes on nature is a discipline of the understanding in intellectual truths.
00:48:20.000And when you're saying, when you're talking a lot about the, The truth, the deeper meaning between the metronomes, finding the rhythm.
00:48:28.000He goes on at this, but I can't find it right now to talk about nature is absolutely in its rhythm.
00:50:27.000That's why I want to return to Tim Robinson.
00:50:30.000I want to return to the idea of you teaching those girls to pray and the way you did it, our beautiful daughters.
00:50:36.000Firstly, teaching them to be still, listing their discomforts, and then you talked them through the process of.
00:50:42.000Prayer when you were telling me what you'd done because I'd gone off to do my own prayer because I'm, I guess, I'm not very patient and I'd gone off to do it.
00:50:48.000And also, I'm a require strong mystical connection at all times, otherwise, I go crazy.
00:50:55.000What I realized is when something doesn't, if it's not like natural to you necessarily, or if you're learning, I realized that they needed to have a sort of a script.
00:52:54.000So, to tell God how good God is, to tell him.
00:52:58.000But, in order for them to understand what praise is, obviously, they know what praise means, but have they actually recently practiced praise?
00:53:10.000And it was really easy for one daughter and not very easy for the other.
00:53:15.000And the silence when one was asked to praise the other really upset one of the girls.
00:53:21.000And I just said, To her, I said, Don't worry, it's not that she has nothing to say, it's that she's not got the confidence or words to find it, but she will find it.
00:53:30.000So I gave, let's say, daughter A, that was waiting to find the words of compliment to the other, lots of time.
00:53:38.000And I said, In fact, I want you to sit next to your sister and I want you to hug your sister.
00:53:43.000And when you hug your sister, what do you feel when you hug your sister?
00:53:46.000And then she said, It was so, so sweet.
00:55:02.000Well, it led to the understanding of praise and not only what it feels like to be praised, but what it feels like to praise someone you love.
00:55:13.000Gave them such a better understanding of how to praise God.
00:55:16.000And what they said was, I said to them after, imagine if, how would it feel if we couldn't find any words to praise God?
00:56:31.000In this selfhood, you can cultivate, you are part of the ongoing vibrant.
00:56:35.000It's tempting for a person to say, to call it nothing because there's no way of describing it.
00:56:39.000But it's more like an unlimited, endless net or interconnected, amorphous web.
00:56:46.000Even a word like net or web suggests a permanent shape.
00:56:50.000But imagine a kind of a more amorphous geometric perfection, transcendent of all things, a magnetic field that permeates all things, particularly that which is invisible.
00:57:01.000Indeed, all that is created has emerged from the invisible.
00:57:06.000The creation story is the only story there is.
00:57:09.000One might imagine it taking place in a single consciousness.
00:57:12.000One might imagine that the ascension takes place at the base of your spine, that you can bring it up, that you can pull up into yourself through the breath, through the spirit.
00:57:22.000You can bring the transcendence, but you must be crucified.
00:57:38.000A kingdom is a place that has a king in it, and you are not that king.
00:57:41.000If you acknowledge the king, if you call the king his name, as Peter did or Simon as he was in that moment at Caesarea Philippi, who do you say, who do people say I am?
00:57:52.000Some people think you're Elijah, some people think you're one of their old prophets.
00:58:48.000Of course, the air is charged and alive and full of energy.
00:58:53.000We ascribe nothingness to that which we cannot understand.
00:58:58.000If you generate God, as Erdinger, the scholar, the Jungian scholar says, if you are co creating God, if you say there is no God, okay, maybe there is no God.
00:59:09.000You've just foreclosed yourself off into a collapsed. System into a part of a nihilistic self centered particle when you open to God.
00:59:17.000That's not saying you know I believe in fairies or otherwise fairies die, although there is a kind of a J.M. Barry innocence to this the innocence of becoming as a little child and being open to these possibilities.
00:59:28.000When you do that, you become an available node in the network of total reality.
00:59:34.000You become you, he can call upon you now.
00:59:46.000Well, thank you very much for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:59:49.000I hope you're enjoying this interview series.