Stay Free - Russel Brand - The Truth Hollywood Won't Touch - SF743

00:00:19.000 Now we started our conversation talking about.

00:00:21.000 Your apprenticeship, as it were, in filmmaking was undertaken with your father, the famous American filmmaker Oliver Stone, and you've recently collaborated with him on the film RFK Legacy.

00:00:35.000 Let's have a look at the trailer and then we'll talk about that for a bit.

00:00:39.000 Do you think there's a Kennedy Curse?

00:00:46.000 In the summertime there were 29 cousins on Kennedy God.

00:00:51.000 Yeah, there were lots of fights and lots of faction.

00:00:54.000 I announced the appointment of Robert F. Kennedy as Attorney General.

00:00:59.000 You try to follow in his footsteps.

00:01:01.000 You become an attorney.

00:01:03.000 Some of these big-time gangsters corrupt the very system under which we live.

00:01:08.000 And your father changed when after my uncle's death.

00:01:12.000 My father was shattered.

00:01:14.000 His first call was to the CIA and said, Did you guys kill my brother?

00:01:20.000 And then Robert Kennedy announced he was going to run for president.

00:01:23.000 I run to seek new policies.

00:01:25.000 He was making alliances with small businessmen, with farmers, with Republicans.

00:01:29.000 My thanks to all of you, and now it's on to Chicago and let's win there.

00:01:35.000 I want to ask you about your father's assassination.

00:01:38.000 Anybody who reads that report will understand that Sir Hinton could not have killed my father.

00:01:44.000 It's a dirty story.

00:01:47.000 I ran away from home and had no contact with my mother. 0.67

00:01:51.000 This time you have a drug addiction.

00:01:53.000 How does that play out?

00:01:55.000 I wanted to be working with nature.

00:01:59.000 He was appalled at what he saw.

00:02:02.000 This is how he became the leading environmental lawyer in the United States.

00:02:06.000 There's no right to pollute, the polluter pays.

00:02:09.000 My views are constantly misrepresented.

00:02:12.000 It's terrible what they did to suppress Bobby's free speech.

00:02:16.000 He accepted his burden and he did his duty.

00:02:20.000 We have to make an effort to get beyond these rather difficult times.

00:02:24.000 We have to.

00:02:25.000 Stop trying to destroy each other.

00:02:27.000 What we need in the United States is not division.

00:02:30.000 We have to find that place of light, of empathy, of compassion.

00:02:37.000 I don't know if there's a curse.

00:02:39.000 We do what we're supposed to do.

00:02:41.000 The outcome's in God's hands.

00:02:49.000 It's strong.

00:02:49.000 And that looks amazing.

00:02:51.000 And I suppose why it's exciting, one of the reasons it's exciting is that the.

00:02:56.000 Father and son thing, and also that both your family and the Kennedy family tell an interesting alternative story of American history while still being central to it, both in entertainment and politics.

00:03:10.000 So, um, tell me I mean, I want to, I'm gonna watch the movie, it's amazing actually.

00:03:15.000 But what do you think we you primarily learned about American politics from making that film?

00:03:24.000 American politics, I don't think it was the making of that film, I think it was when I was six, seven years old.

00:03:29.000 Making JFK.

00:03:32.000 As a kid, I was peripheral to it.

00:03:36.000 I had a role as Kevin Costner's son in the movie.

00:03:39.000 Oh, wow, he was Kevin Costner's son in the movie.

00:03:41.000 I had to sit through those court scenes in 90, 100 degrees Louisiana heat when there was no AC.

00:03:48.000 There were several fans going in a three piece suit.

00:03:51.000 Those were brutal, brutal days.

00:03:54.000 And a lot of the movie was set there.

00:03:55.000 So, how old were you?

00:03:57.000 About six, seven.

00:03:58.000 Yeah, I think about.

00:04:00.000 What was I like six years old?

00:04:01.000 That's amazing.

00:04:02.000 I've got to think of the stories I try and tell my children around that age.

00:04:08.000 And I do try and tell them everything's not what it seems and be careful with authority and people that you're told are heroes might not necessarily be.

00:04:17.000 And the information you get from media might not be true.

00:04:20.000 But you, when you were seven, you were learning what you've been told about one of the most beloved politicians and leaders of the modern era is a lie.

00:04:30.000 And you were, I mean, what level were you experiencing that as a child?

00:04:33.000 Well, yeah, I mean,.

00:04:35.000 I would, you know, I was kind of peripheral.

00:04:38.000 I mean, I'm doing my thing, playing baseball, going to the gym, playing with my friends.

00:04:43.000 But my dad is, you know, researching and watching documentaries on it.

00:04:46.000 And then you, you know, it's like a question, you know, like, what are you working on?

00:04:50.000 Oh, you know, the conspiracy to kill President Kennedy.

00:04:53.000 Oh, well, if the people that killed Kennedy, aren't they going to, you know, kill us?

00:04:56.000 Like, you know, that was my logical question, you know? 0.99

00:04:58.000 It's like they're that powerful that they can kill the president.

00:05:01.000 You know, isn't that, isn't that frightening you to go after that?

00:05:06.000 And in a sense, they don't use.

00:05:09.000 They don't kill you.

00:05:10.000 Charlie Kirk is like the exception.

00:05:12.000 That's like the rule now is they kill you by media, right?

00:05:17.000 They kill you through silencing you, through calling you a conspiracy theorist, by trying to basically diminish you publicly, right?

00:05:24.000 To smear you publicly.

00:05:25.000 That's the new form of character assassination.

00:05:28.000 It's easier to do that than to actually publicly execute someone.

00:05:34.000 So that's what I got to see really firsthand.

00:05:38.000 It was more of the media's.

00:05:41.000 Characterization of my father as a conspiracy theorist and trying to kind of put him into that. 0.92

00:05:46.000 You know, he's a great director, but he's kind of crazy.

00:05:49.000 And that's the narrative that, you know, to the present day, still, a lot of the left still embraces that.

00:05:54.000 I mean, I was watching that film, what's it called?

00:05:56.000 Ellington?

00:05:57.000 No, Arrington, something like that.

00:06:00.000 I don't know if you saw it.

00:06:01.000 It's from, it's that movie about COVID and Joaquin Phoenix is in it and it's basically like making fun.

00:06:10.000 Eddington's called Eddington.

00:06:11.000 And it's basically, Poking fun at the right wing nuts and how they get caught up in conspiracy.

00:06:18.000 First, it's no masks, and then it basically escalates and escalates from there.

00:06:22.000 And the filmmaker behind it was interviewed and he said, Oh, I had my crew watch JFK because to me, that's like a conspiracy fantasy that we have to get into, we have to understand the paranoid mindset of a conspiracy theorist.

00:06:35.000 Wow.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, so a lot of people still, I guess, believe that.

00:06:39.000 Although, majority of Americans don't think Oswald acted alone, but the mainstream left media still wants people to, you know, Believe the Warren Commission narrative around the event. 0.98

00:06:50.000 Sean, shut up!

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00:08:11.000 For most people, it seems to me at least that the journey of being educated is one where you accept, generally speaking, what you're told and the way things appear and the way that they seem.

00:08:27.000 One doesn't generally start from a position of doubt.

00:08:32.000 And maybe even of skeptical inquiry.

00:08:36.000 But you've had a very, very unique life, I suppose, because for you, the bedrock of your education would have been I'm assuming you can't trust what you're told.

00:08:45.000 In all likelihood, you're being lied to.

00:08:48.000 So I just wonder what kind of trajectory you have, both as a man and as a filmmaker, when your basic understanding of reality is you can't trust power, you're being lied to.

00:08:57.000 The most powerful people in the world can be executed if they're not compliant with these old.

00:09:03.000 And also, how for you, it's not something that I've really seen, especially in your father's work, you're fascinated with, it seems, religion, the supernatural, the occult, and the esoteric.

00:09:13.000 Can you tell us a little bit about is there a connection that I'm suggesting between if you start at the level of you can't trust the reality you're presented with, that you become curious about other levels of reality?

00:09:26.000 Precisely, precisely.

00:09:27.000 If you start at the point of like 15, 16 years old, reading all about CIA black ops and.

00:09:37.000 The mundane power structure and how the deep state works.

00:09:41.000 I mean, before it was called the deep state, it was the secret government or whatnot.

00:09:45.000 The fact that we have, our CIA has coured countless 70 plus countries and operated all over the world, destabilized governments, fomented revolutions and wars.

00:09:59.000 So once you understand that as a kid, it's like, where do you go from there?

00:10:01.000 Okay, then you get into Rule by Secrecy by Jim Mars, which gets into the secret society.

00:10:06.000 Then you get into like David Icke's work in the bigger picture and the more esoteric interpretation of history.

00:10:14.000 And so I think I was open to that idea because the more you study history, the more you get into legends and lores.

00:10:22.000 And even people, even historians like Procopius writing the secret history of Justinian, saying, yeah, Justinian was known to shape shift at night and turn into basically he was turning into a demon that was feeding on like human blood.

00:10:36.000 This is the kind of history that gets buried by most historians.

00:10:42.000 It's like, oh, it's absurd, but yet every culture has these types of myths and stories.

00:10:49.000 And so I think if you allow yourself to start opening to it, which I did, and then I'm actually opening the door to living it, which was for me the only way of being sure was to actually experience it.

00:11:00.000 To actually say, okay, I've experienced high strangeness.

00:11:03.000 I know we are in a multi dimensional reality.

00:11:05.000 And that's the only way the conspiracy makes sense to me, because otherwise it becomes.

00:11:09.000 Mundane people, greedy people, okay.

00:11:12.000 I don't see how they could maintain these empires for generation after generation after generation if there wasn't something more multidimensional driving it.

00:11:20.000 It's hard enough to get people to the point where they question the intentions of their government and their network of agencies and institutions around them, both private, corporate, and global bureaucratic.

00:11:33.000 It's hard to get people to question even that reality.

00:11:35.000 I think, as you've mentioned by bringing up that film, Eddington, was that what it was called?

00:11:41.000 Yeah, the new one.

00:11:42.000 Like the sort of film that sort of implies that anyone that has concerns about the way that the pandemic unrolled and who benefited from that pandemic and the wealth transfer and the new legislation that was introduced and the population control opportunities that it afforded and the ability to in future use crisis as an opportunity to assert authoritarianism, to legitimize digital ID, to mandate medications.

00:12:08.000 Like the people, it's very difficult even a few years afterwards to get people to recollect and reflect on how.

00:12:16.000 profound and invasive that was.

00:12:18.000 And in fact, when I think about it, the films of Oliver Stone, like JFK actually in particular, but others as well, helped me to have a different perspective.

00:12:30.000 Once you get though to the point where you start to question the nature of reality itself, it's that you require, I wonder, Sean, do you ever think that we require some kind of, without What I want to say is a framework.

00:12:49.000 But the problem with a framework is that it can lapse into tradition, and tradition can become dogma, and dogma becomes control.

00:12:56.000 The reason I ask this question is because it seems like, in some ways, while our lives have been very different, there are comparisons.

00:13:01.000 Like some of the people you listed then have really influenced and affected the way that I saw reality.

00:13:08.000 When I was like 16, 17, and doing acid and taking hallucinogenics and questioning what was real and what wasn't, and really sort of unfurling into different spaces, I already had an anti establishment perspective.

00:13:20.000 I started to develop a kind of appreciation that there was a spiritual dimension to power.

00:13:28.000 And in fact, the primary dimension of power is spiritual.

00:13:32.000 But since coming to Christ, I feel both more grounded in that and more articulate in it.

00:13:40.000 And I've lost nothing in terms of the vocabulary that I had and the understanding that I previously had, i.e., the world is evil, it's being controlled by evil institutions and individuals.

00:13:53.000 Acting at the behest and under the control of paranormal and supernatural forces, which seems like a pretty outrageous thing to say, but it's in the Bible and it's sort of when you look out the window, it seems to be sort of happening live before our very eyes.

00:14:07.000 And that we can have a personal relationship with and draw power from the creator of all reality, Christ.

00:14:21.000 And so, what I'm supposed to be asking you here is.

00:14:25.000 What do you think our role becomes as storytellers and participants in a culture that hates us and wants to destroy us because that culture is a tool of the very powers that we're railing against?

00:14:34.000 And what skills are we going to have to develop in order to present stories that help form new coalitions that are not compromised but are open and loving enough to not be, by their nature, exclusive?

00:14:54.000 It's a mouthful.

00:14:56.000 I know a lot of my questions are complicated.

00:14:58.000 I have a problem with that, don't I, Jake?

00:15:00.000 I understood it.

00:15:01.000 You have to really concentrate because I don't know what I'm saying until I've finished saying it.

00:15:06.000 You don't know where the stopping point is, so you start trying to think of your answer early and it sort of goes.

00:15:11.000 Yeah, when I talk to proper academics and intellectuals, they hate it because they've got an answer about 10 words in and then by the time the question's ended, I no longer care about that bit.

00:15:21.000 I've sort of worked that out, I've moved on.

00:15:25.000 Well, where to begin?

00:15:32.000 I don't think any of us can answer for how this storytelling is supposed to take shape.

00:15:39.000 We can be participants on what's available to us.

00:15:42.000 I mean, I've been working and telling stories, documentaries, and I haven't hit a nerve the way my father was able to hit a nerve to reach the level of awareness and success that he was able to do in his lifetime.

00:15:59.000 And I don't know what that feels like to actually catch that wave, to hit that nerve, and to be able to be accessed to such a level of awareness and consciousness.

00:16:10.000 And a lot of people would say they're.

00:16:13.000 Very important stories and people that are doing work out there that don't get the level of success.

00:16:18.000 And it does make you wonder at what level of, you know, is it there's some level of gatekeeping and destiny?

00:16:24.000 I mean, what are the forces that are at work, right, that allow one story to make it to the mainstream and another one that's well done completely gets missed by consciousness, right?

00:16:34.000 Really, we have to wonder about these things and just the nature of where human consciousness is ready to receive, ready to actually understand what's being given to them, right?

00:16:44.000 So I think that it's a.

00:16:46.000 It's at one level, we say like there's a dark side that's gatekeeping, manipulating, trying to maybe, you know, manipulate consciousness.

00:16:54.000 I mean, you probably have seen it much closer than I have because you've been part of some of these studio films.

00:17:00.000 You've been married to a pop star who demonstrated some dissociative identity, personality, kitten programming.

00:17:07.000 I don't know if you noticed that, but I noticed it with the Andy documentary when Katie went into her cat character, her kitty character, which seemed like dissociation to me, which is a very common thing for.

00:17:19.000 Pop stars who have you ever seen that they switch?

00:17:23.000 Are you saying that there's a sort of a level of sort of fame where we'll tell them now explain it?

00:17:29.000 So, some okay, especially more you never heard of this, you know, dissociation identity disorder MPD.

00:17:35.000 It's in the old term, it was multiple personality disorder.

00:17:38.000 There was a very famous book, Candy Jones was a pinup model who got used by intelligence because she had multiple personalities. 0.96

00:17:46.000 She'd go into black states and not remember who she was when they. 1.00

00:17:49.000 Put her into an altered state. 0.63

00:17:51.000 And so they could use her for spying purposes.

00:17:54.000 And it's a very famous story, Candy Jones, and you can read the books on it.

00:17:58.000 So the manipulation of pop stars in particular seems to be a very common thing.

00:18:04.000 And that's why often the main way that people started waking up to the Illuminati agenda was through looking at the music videos of the 2010s.

00:18:14.000 Because remember, that's when the Jay Z's and others started going out with the rock, they called it rock, but it's the Illuminati pyramid.

00:18:21.000 And putting all the symbols into the mainstream music videos for people, and people started to say, Wait a minute, the Illuminati, the Masons, the various imagery that you're putting in, the satanic imagery that you're putting in, we're starting to see now what you're doing to us.

00:18:36.000 And there was an awakening that started taking place in 2010s, thanks to YouTube actually making those videos much more accessible.

00:18:42.000 And the comments, all of a sudden, people can comment and reflect back and go, I see what you're doing with the programming here, the Sex Kitten programming.

00:18:50.000 So, I don't know, the Andy documentary when Katie goes into her.

00:18:53.000 Her kitten mode, and she starts talking like a little kid.

00:18:56.000 And I said, Ah, that looks to me like MPD, or she's flipped into an altered state.

00:19:04.000 Sean's talking about a documentary that when I was younger, a filmmaker called Ondi Timoner made a documentary about me, which I always think is good because I am me.

00:19:16.000 And I always think someone should make more documentaries about me, validate my existence, justify it in some way.

00:19:24.000 Well, anyway, while that was being made, I was married to Katy Perry and she did an interview with Ondi during it.

00:19:32.000 Now, I didn't like making that documentary, isn't that?

00:19:35.000 Because now the only people that have worked with me are Beloved Jake and Nikki over there.

00:19:39.000 I don't really like any of the mechanics or machinery of making content, really.

00:19:46.000 I only want to be in the flow of total spontaneity always.

00:19:50.000 I think I've only become a professional person because what else do you do with it?

00:19:55.000 You know, like, look at you, because of the conditions of your birth and your circumstances, it's pretty natural and understandable that you're going to filmmaking.

00:20:02.000 And it's very touching, actually, to sort of hear you talk about your dad's level of success.

00:20:06.000 But I do wonder now that we live in this sort of fractured and fragmented culture.

00:20:10.000 We don't have a master-dominated culture in the same way as a result of the technology that you described.

00:20:15.000 It's interactive, even if that interaction is just a YouTube video and the comment.

00:20:19.000 News media is moving in a way that I think was unprecedented and not entirely predicted.

00:20:25.000 One of the obvious consequences, it's only relevant because it's happening right now, is that political figures can't sustain the power of reputation for as long as they once could.

00:20:36.000 In my country, there's a huge turnover of prime ministers, and I think that's a result of social media. 1.00

00:20:41.000 That quite quickly people go, This guy's full of shit, and they're annihilated. 0.97

00:20:45.000 Even if they're a sort of, what do I want to say, a fated and approved political figure, like Keir Starmer was, like the next guy Andy Burnham is, like Rishi Sunak was. 1.00

00:20:57.000 Whatever you think about Donald Trump, I don't think they wanted that guy to be president.

00:21:02.000 Whatever you think about the Iran war and what's happened since he's been in office, he was definitely an anomaly.

00:21:10.000 Feel about the culture is, you know, as Terrence McKenna famously said, and you'll surely be aware, the culture is not your friend.

00:21:17.000 The culture is an operating system to ensure you get information they want you to have and that information is promoted, and you do not get information that they don't want you to have.

00:21:27.000 The problem is that as mass media has gained pace, someone like Oliver Stone actually was, I suppose, a groundbreaking figure as he operated in the popular space and went from platoon to Jeff K. Like he started to push it a bit.

00:21:40.000 You know, platoon, like Vietnam, criticism of Vietnam was sort of.

00:21:45.000 Had become an acceptable idea.

00:21:47.000 Like, this war was a mistake, you know, and he narrativized that sort of beautifully in that film.

00:21:51.000 But when it gets to the point of JFK, before the internet, to sort of read about, hold on a minute, that's impossible that he died in that way, you'd have to read some pretty weird and esoteric material from non sanctioned academics.

00:22:04.000 Now, since, like, to you, you alluded to the idea that I would have insights, and indeed I do, and these are them.

00:22:10.000 And this is a painful thing to admit in some ways.

00:22:13.000 If you're successful in the culture, it means.

00:22:16.000 The culture can use you.

00:22:18.000 Now, I reckon and I'm sure that at points it's as explicit as you're literally being engaged by and paid by government or deep state or whatever is the right idiom officials in a way that in plain sight and publicly and obviously films like Top Gun or any military film or films about the CIA are usually granted access to equipment and material and locations that they wouldn't otherwise get as long as they give a favourable purview of,

00:22:46.000 for example, the American military or relevant agency.

00:22:48.000 So that's a really clear example of it.

00:22:50.000 But in a more diffuse way, and this is sort of similar to the earlier part of our conversation where I was saying, in general, I believe in supernatural entities and paranormal occurrences, but when someone presents me with, like, well, what about that then? 0.99

00:23:02.000 I'm like, oh, fuck off. 0.99

00:23:03.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:23:03.000 Like, I find it hard when actually someone says, well, what about this then? 1.00

00:23:07.000 And actually, that happens interpersonally.

00:23:09.000 If someone might admit to being, oh, no.

00:23:11.000 Someone might have another weird paranormal thing happening.

00:23:14.000 Someone might admit to being narcissistic in a general way, or vain, if not narcissistic, because that's a bit more.

00:23:20.000 Psychopathic, I suppose. 0.99

00:23:21.000 But if you go, you're being narcissistic right fucking now. 0.99

00:23:24.000 They're like, no, I'm not. 0.98

00:23:25.000 People don't like being hit with it actually in the moment when they're doing it, right?

00:23:29.000 So, anyway, what I'd say is that my experience of being a participant in the culture I can recognize in hindsight was because my persona happened to be useful in exhibiting and demonstrating a set of traits that the culture likes to prize vanity, self involvement, womanizing, promiscuity, hedonism, but ultimately a kind of a redeemed individualism.

00:23:53.000 I don't mean redeemed in Christ, I mean redeemed like, oh, this guy used to be a drug addict.

00:23:57.000 No, he doesn't take drugs, he just has sex all the time, and look at him, he's making movies, and he's a, what do you want to say, a A bad boy, but in a safe way. 0.76

00:24:06.000 There's no bad boys anymore. 0.99

00:24:08.000 You know, if you're a genuine bad boy, they'll fucking try and book you in jail. 0.98

00:24:13.000 I can tell you from personal experience because a bad boy means you're anti establishment. 0.99

00:24:17.000 And the establishment can accommodate a little.

00:24:20.000 No, not really.

00:24:21.000 No, look at me. 1.00

00:24:22.000 What the fuck would. 0.99

00:24:22.000 I sometimes think because the thing that's happening to me legally, if they. 0.99

00:24:26.000 The reason is, what would happen if they did that to.

00:24:29.000 Now begin the list.

00:24:31.000 Mick Jagger.

00:24:32.000 Anyone. 0.63

00:24:33.000 Anyone who sleeps around like loads and loads and loads, like hundreds, thousands, People, if you went, go talk to a thousand people that have had sex with Mick Jagger, like you know, I reckon there will be some interesting findings.

00:24:45.000 But the point is, they're not doing it with Mick Jagger.

00:24:48.000 Why?

00:24:49.000 Who are they doing it with, and why is the sort of question.

00:24:52.000 So, but my point is, Cesar Chavez, after he's passed away, you know, these new allegations coming out, you know, it's after the man's passed on, it's like all of a sudden, you know, the skeletons come out, and you know, how do you defend that, you know, in that case?

00:25:06.000 Obviously, Cesar Chavez, the sort of revolutionary leader.

00:25:10.000 Socialist, peasant leader, and sort of hero can't defend himself now.

00:25:15.000 And it's very, very difficult because, yeah, like as you said before, Sean, Martin Luther King, it seems like was a pretty promiscuous dude.

00:25:22.000 And I wonder where you go with that.

00:25:24.000 Like, you know, a lot of great people, you know, JFK, a lot of great people.

00:25:28.000 And this is not sort of a subtle way of trying to say, because I'm pretty fantastic.

00:25:32.000 I really put it about a bit, and therefore I should be made King of England.

00:25:36.000 I was thinking about the, you know, when you were hosting the VMAs, that timing.

00:25:40.000 I mean, you did the joke about the promise ring with the Jonas brothers, and you made fun of George Bush, and that's exactly what they're attacking, you know.

00:25:49.000 Excellent, excellent.

00:25:51.000 Yeah, they put you right up there because that was the material that they needed to sort of.

00:25:55.000 We need someone sort of cool to go that the Jonas brothers and their purity rings is ridiculous and to sort of criticize George Bush, who at the time.

00:26:04.000 I'll tell you one thing, man.

00:26:05.000 I don't.

00:26:05.000 You played a role.

00:26:06.000 I played a role.

00:26:07.000 They don't need you to know that you're playing a role.

00:26:10.000 That goes to kind of what I was getting at.

00:26:12.000 Whether it's multiple personality, actual manipulation of multiple personality in some of these personalities that are performers.

00:26:19.000 You know, musicians oftentimes, I think more evidently, but it can also be actors.

00:26:23.000 Kind of what I was hinting at before with Denzel when he said, I called in the spirit.

00:26:27.000 He literally says, You know, how did you perform that role?

00:26:29.000 You won the supporting actor.

00:26:30.000 He said, Well, I just got on my knees and I called upon the spirit to come enter me.

00:26:37.000 And that was what came through.

00:26:39.000 There's something that's moving through people.

00:26:43.000 And it can be positive or negative.

00:26:44.000 I'm not saying it's either or, but.

00:26:46.000 Something is moving through, and there's a management and a control system that seems to well, we know that that elevates Lady Gaga.

00:26:55.000 And remember, there were all these weird accusations that she was involved with the murder of her friend at the time who died mysteriously.

00:27:03.000 And basically, they said, you know, Gaga basically took her soul and took her personality and everything and rose to start him.

00:27:09.000 You remember the story at all?

00:27:10.000 I didn't know, but the one thing that's strange is because I see you to your point about like reading the comments because I know with me, people go, Oh, he's in the Illuminati, he's got that 33 tattoo.

00:27:21.000 Like when that first sights happened to me when I was first famous, I thought, well, I know I'm not involved in some weird conspiracy.

00:27:28.000 And again, to a lesser degree, but still, with Katie, like, you know, it was only a couple of years really that we were in each other's lives intimately.

00:27:36.000 But my experience was, this is, there is no sort of ulterior thing going on.

00:27:43.000 This is someone that was from a background where her parents were pastors, that was in the Christian music world, and then became a massive pop star.

00:27:51.000 By sort of, in a sense, I would never say denigrating because that doesn't seem fair, but kind of inverting or commenting on the idea of her previous Christian thing.

00:28:02.000 I kissed a girl and I liked it.

00:28:03.000 But what I think, but like if you think about that in a more broader way, think how many, and check out the weird.

00:28:10.000 Who produced her, who managed her, who put the contracts together, who put the music together.

00:28:15.000 You see, I mean, that's my point about the handling.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:28:18.000 You wouldn't even necessarily need to know.

00:28:20.000 I was thinking, Sean, about like how many stars.

00:28:24.000 Have been through like Disney and Nickelodeon.

00:28:26.000 So, kids watch them, like, say, for example, Miley Cyrus, while they're children and they're in the Mickey Mouse Club, like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. 0.98

00:28:35.000 And then five years later, they're all dressed up like sluts and they're in like movie and they're being denigrated and sexualized. 1.00

00:28:41.000 It's inversion, which is the nature of Satanism. 0.99

00:28:44.000 It's what Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, said up is down, left is right, slavery is freedom.

00:28:50.000 That's the nature of Satanism.

00:28:52.000 It's to invert everything.

00:28:55.000 Yes.

00:28:56.000 Did you, Vicky, did you have something to say about that then?

00:28:58.000 I'm not being facetious.

00:29:00.000 Like, did you?

00:29:01.000 Like, it's interesting, isn't it?

00:29:02.000 Because, like, that's what I've noticed again since coming to Christ is how Christian philosophy and theology can accommodate these ideas.

00:29:11.000 Did you have something to say about that?

00:29:13.000 Like, that inversion and the perversion of, like, children that you're shown these kids and you celebrate their innocence, even while commodifying their innocence on Disney and Nickelodeon.

00:29:22.000 And in the same way that there's a kind of affinity, that there's a sort of a weird connection between, I'm not saying in all cases, but, you know, like, People that have high access to children often turn out to be paedophiles.

00:29:34.000 Not often, but perhaps disproportionately, is perhaps a kinder way of saying that.

00:29:37.000 Because if you were a paedophile, perhaps you would move into those areas.

00:29:40.000 And then you find out that people have worked in kids' entertainment.

00:29:44.000 And in a more, I don't know, sort of a more consensual, is a word I would use, way, the whole of Hollywood is about commodifying and objectifying one another.

00:29:53.000 But it's actually Nikki's husband who sort of said, you don't have the ability to consent.

00:29:59.000 To go to live like that, you should be living in God, like you know, like to your point about Denzel Washington channeling for the movie Glory.

00:30:07.000 If you open yourself up, you better be opening yourself up to God, you better be a recipient of grace, you better be broadcasting that.

00:30:14.000 Because if you think you are, there is no neutrality, as St. John of the Cross says, the neutrality will be metastasized into evil because that's what this dimension and this plane is controlled and captured by.

00:30:26.000 Over to you in the studio, Vicky.

00:30:30.000 I said you forgot Justin.

00:30:33.000 Justin Timberlake, do you think that he similarly was sort of.

00:30:37.000 Christina and Miley and Brittany, and he's amongst those.

00:30:43.000 Yeah, and he also does seem to be kind of.

00:30:46.000 I don't know, because having been in that area, that cultural social area, I'm always reluctant to be critical, but when you see stuff and people are out drunk and all that, it's a pretty desperate and ugly world, isn't it?

00:30:59.000 No, I mean, the whole paparazzi trying to.

00:31:02.000 A lot of it, by the way, as you know, is.

00:31:04.000 Their own PR team is trying to get attention on people because they think all press, you know, all press is good press, right?

00:31:09.000 Even bad press can be good press if you're trying to just get out to be reminded that you exist.

00:31:14.000 But I agree.

00:31:15.000 I mean, a lot of this is personal life that shouldn't be dragged out.

00:31:18.000 I mean, people's personal life shouldn't, for the most part, be dragged down to the public eye.

00:31:22.000 Yeah, but I guess what I've come away from Hollywood thinking is, oh, the function of this is distraction and the propagation of denigratory ideas that are malevolent to the people that receive them.

00:31:38.000 And like now, as a father, my attitude towards entertainment and the culture is you are not going to get your identity and your education from that. 1.00

00:31:47.000 Even as we consume it, I will tell you, look, this is funny, this is pretty good, but these people are bastards. 0.99

00:31:53.000 I mean, when I catch them, you watch that Disney Channel, mate, there's unnecessary shots of kids' arses. 0.99

00:31:59.000 There were over shoulder reverses. 0.98

00:32:01.000 We think, why is that kid's arse in the reverse? 0.98

00:32:04.000 Go up above the waist. 0.98

00:32:05.000 What are we making here? 1.00

00:32:07.000 Why is the best friend a transgender? 1.00

00:32:11.000 There's a lot that's being pushed at the unconscious level for kids.

00:32:16.000 That's already moving them in that direction because they want, you know, they're advertising to them to become LGBTQ.

00:32:21.000 That's pretty clear. 1.00

00:32:22.000 I think that's a depopulation agenda more than anything.

00:32:25.000 I think they, you know, because, you know, the elites have talked about this for decades.

00:32:28.000 We have too many people.

00:32:29.000 So what's the easiest way of depopulation? 1.00

00:32:31.000 Well, if you can't kill a billion people, if you can get, let's say, 20, 25% of Gen Z to identify as LGBTQ and they don't reproduce, and we already are at a moment now where statistically the United States is like reaching a crescendo. 0.94

00:32:47.000 We're not, I think our population is not on the incline for the first. 0.98

00:32:50.000 Time in the last few years, you've seen that we've pretty much stagnated.

00:32:54.000 So, if you can get 20-25% of the population to stop reproducing, that's going to be a population collapse in the next 20 years.

00:33:02.000 The big challenge, I suppose, and I'm struck by this in some ways when I watched the documentary One to One.

00:33:08.000 It was a film about John Lennon and Yoko Ono and their early times in Greenwich Village.

00:33:13.000 It was very striking that the cultural war that we seem to be participating in now has been going on for a long while.

00:33:19.000 It made me think that the whole counterculture could have been a sort of a CIA op.

00:33:23.000 i.e., Abbie Hoffman and all of those sort of civil rights activists had high ideals and compassion but lacked a kind of plain vision.

00:33:32.000 Meanwhile, the Christian folk that surrounded Nixon seemed to lack the kind of authentic connection to God that is a requirement, it would seem, to bringing about real and meaningful change. 0.61

00:33:43.000 So, like you said, the satanic principle is one of inversion. 0.92

00:33:47.000 It seems to me that the playing field, the battlefield, has become quite clear now.

00:33:51.000 The technology that could be used to create centralized authoritarianism could be inverted.

00:33:55.000 To create decentralization and incredible freedom, that we are in a spiritual war and we're in an incredible moment in that spiritual war.

00:34:03.000 And I think, I suppose, you know, each of us must know what part of the anatomy we are and what part of the body we are and what our job is.

00:34:11.000 So, content creation, while it might take on a different inflection and the machine might not operate in a way that it's going to create anomalous creators that make a platoon or a JFK, you know, but even if they do, that's a forebear and foreshadowing of their inevitable, you know, your father was.

00:34:29.000 You know, ridiculed and attacked and diminished to ensure that there was no sort of critical tipping point where those stories became so popular.

00:34:36.000 Therefore, I thought, well, if they did that to JFK, that means never trust the government again.

00:34:41.000 If they did that during 9 11, never trust the government again.

00:34:45.000 If that's the truth about COVID, or even if 10% of it's true about COVID, you can never trust the government again.

00:34:50.000 We're always sort of held back from that threshold.

00:34:52.000 So I think our role and job, Sean, becomes to make content that I think makes accessible to a lot of people these kind of ideas.

00:35:01.000 And the responsibility that comes with it, I suppose, is.

00:35:03.000 Making sure we don't seem crazy, and I don't do a very good job of that.

00:35:07.000 I think my job has been, especially since I started with Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, which I co-hosted that show, all the way through my Buzzsaw podcast that went on to work.

00:35:21.000 I did work with Gaia.

00:35:22.000 I worked with RT America.

00:35:24.000 I think I was opening the window to say, you know, this may seem crazy outside the box, but the Overton window, they call it, right?

00:35:32.000 But it has shifted.

00:35:33.000 I've watched it shift now in my lifetime where UAPs are on TV, Fox News is talking about the gray aliens, the reptilian aliens. 0.61

00:35:42.000 You know, we've got the Epstein files out.

00:35:44.000 We've got some JFK files out.

00:35:46.000 You know, for whatever that's worth.

00:35:48.000 I mean, the point is that there is more awareness and more conversation being had on these topics that were taboo, you know, when I was a kid.

00:35:58.000 So I think we've already done a good job of shifting it collectively.

00:36:01.000 You know, some of us have been more like pathfinders than others, but at least like we've been able to see in our lifetime the shift.

00:36:09.000 As far as creating content, I think I'm more interested in telling stories that, um, Empower and uplift.

00:36:18.000 I'm more inspired by the films of the 80s and before that, let's say like the 80s and prior, because those were the films that I grew up watching and they had a certain spirit to them that was adventurous.

00:36:31.000 I mean, I think that's what's missing in this age.

00:36:34.000 First, we had the cynicism of the 90s that came into the pessimism of the 2000s, the war on terror decade, I would call it.

00:36:42.000 The 2010s were kind of a befuddling time.

00:36:45.000 We were hoping for the end of the age in 2012 to shift us into something, right?

00:36:50.000 Into some kind of awakening.

00:36:52.000 And I think gradually we're getting there.

00:36:54.000 So I really hope that with whatever we create, we can hopefully inspire and uplift the human heart and the human soul and remind people of our sovereignty as beings on this earth who are not dependent on a government, which is why America is so beautiful because the American Constitution is premised on the Declaration, which is basically saying God endows us with these rights and we.

00:37:18.000 The people endowed the government with its powers, not vice versa.

00:37:22.000 The only country in the world that can say that every other country is basically a king who is divinely appointed and gives the people a Magna Carta and says, You can have these rights and you can have this land and you can have this title.

00:37:35.000 And it's crazy.

00:37:36.000 That's the nature of all government on the planet.

00:37:38.000 The American government is the only government that said, Wait, no, God endows us and we endow the government.

00:37:43.000 If we don't preserve that, we're done.

00:37:46.000 That's good.

00:37:47.000 What an amazing place to wrap up.

00:37:48.000 Thank you very much, Thornton Stone.

00:37:50.000 Thank you all of you for joining us for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:37:53.000 We will be back next time.

00:37:55.000 Not with more of the same, but more of the different.

00:37:57.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

00:37:59.000 Oh, that was beautiful.

00:38:02.000 Did you see that right, Rob?

00:38:03.000 Yeah.

00:38:04.000 Jake, you did really, really well.

00:38:05.000 Sean, that was fantastic.

00:38:07.000 Audience, you did good.

00:38:08.000 I mean, all right, yeah, Tim did look at that phone.

00:38:10.000 But other than that, I think it's been exemplary behavior.

00:38:13.000 Do you have Rumble Premium yet?

00:38:15.000 Get Rumble Premium.

00:38:16.000 Rumble Premium means you get additional content from me and other Rumble partners as well.

00:38:21.000 Pat Seen.

00:38:22.000 Is available to come to your house.

00:38:24.000 And there is no advert for Patsy.

00:38:27.000 Sway has been a great contributor today. 0.81

00:38:29.000 In spite of her hat that at various points got into shot, she's been a wonderful contributor.

00:38:35.000 In fact, I'd like to thank the whole audience today Timmy and Sharon, who work here at Soho House, Josh and Mertz, who filmed it, even Tim, who looked at his phone and then sort of tried to pretend it was funny.

00:38:48.000 It better be important.

00:38:49.000 No, maybe it was important.

00:38:50.000 Like, yeah, we don't know.

00:38:51.000 Oh no, Prem, all right, Lord, look after him.

00:38:53.000 Sure, that Lee, excuse me, Lee, look after Lee and make sure that it was that he's all right, and then it's on him if it were.

00:38:59.000 No, don't do malicious prayer.

00:39:01.000 Thank you, Nicky, for all of your help and Mr. Holotic for being here.

00:39:05.000 I think we're done.

00:39:06.000 Much more for Sean Stone.

00:39:12.000 I really wanted to see that Canadian hiker attack that grizzly bear.

00:39:16.000 Oh, I forgot about that.

00:39:17.000 Okay, and now, is that right?

00:39:18.000 Let's keep rolling.

00:39:19.000 Now, Sean, you might not have seen this.

00:39:21.000 Have a look at this lovely tree.

00:39:23.000 Here's a Canadian hiker.

00:39:25.000 No one takes Canada seriously as a country. 0.60

00:39:27.000 Their former prime minister was Rapscallion.

00:39:30.000 Their flag, it's got a leaf on it. 0.99

00:39:32.000 Ridiculous. 0.98

00:39:33.000 Here is a Canadian hiker being, quite rightly, attacked by a grizzly bear. 0.98

00:39:37.000 Oh my God.

00:39:39.000 No.

00:39:40.000 No.

00:39:40.000 Oh, the way.

00:39:52.000 Is that all you have to do?

00:40:01.000 Well, you are meant to.

00:40:02.000 That's a little grizzly.

00:40:03.000 That's a baby, isn't it?

00:40:06.000 I mean, oh, come on.

00:40:07.000 You would be scared.

00:40:08.000 I don't think it's actually.

00:40:09.000 It's in the forest, little.

00:40:12.000 It's time for it.

00:40:13.000 Oh, no.

00:40:14.000 He's making a move.

00:40:15.000 He's standing up.

00:40:18.000 Sure.

00:40:20.000 What?

00:40:22.000 No!

00:40:23.000 Oh my god.

00:40:25.000 Stand for the dog!

00:40:26.000 Would you let the dog loose?

00:40:30.000 Yeah, let the dog loose. 0.98

00:40:34.000 Do not! 0.99

00:40:34.000 Wait! 0.99

00:40:35.000 I'm faster than her. 1.00

00:40:36.000 Dad! 0.96

00:40:38.000 Dad!

00:40:39.000 Hey!

00:40:40.000 Do not!

00:40:42.000 I think you should play with the dog.

00:40:44.000 You get it!

00:40:46.000 Right.

00:40:48.000 Go! 0.85

00:40:48.000 Oh, she still has won in the end. 0.85

00:40:50.000 The Canadian victory to Canada. 1.00

00:40:53.000 Destroy him! 1.00

00:40:54.000 What do you think? 1.00

00:40:55.000 Let the dog off.

00:40:57.000 You could let it run.

00:40:59.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:41:00.000 That's a tough call.

00:41:01.000 Tough call.

00:41:02.000 Got a big stick.

00:41:03.000 Anyone got experience with grizzlies?

00:41:05.000 Yeah, you know.

00:41:08.000 I'd let the dog off, I think.

00:41:09.000 I think letting the dog off, because I don't like it.

00:41:11.000 The dog seems too restricted there.

00:41:13.000 Unless it's one of those dogs that people put in those strollers.

00:41:16.000 Have you seen that?

00:41:17.000 Where the dog's in a stroller? 1.00

00:41:19.000 Baby dogs, like you.

00:41:20.000 I don't think it's like full grown dogs, but they just.

00:41:22.000 It goes in a.

00:41:23.000 They put it in a stroller.

00:41:24.000 That's undermining for the dog.

00:41:26.000 I mean, dogs in shoes, dogs in outfits. 0.93

00:41:29.000 Dogs don't accessorise dogs.

00:41:31.000 Too much. 1.00

00:41:32.000 Patsy, I bet you put your dog Wally in outfits, don't you?

00:41:36.000 Patsy, Coco. 1.00

00:41:37.000 Sway puts her. 1.00

00:41:38.000 Coco.

00:41:39.000 Look, I'm not taking responsibility for. 0.99

00:41:41.000 She has a skin and sweater, don't even lie. 1.00

00:41:43.000 That's not my. 0.63

00:41:44.000 I don't want to denounce and deny Coco like Peter with Christ, but that is not my dog, and I don't know it.

00:41:50.000 Like, my dog is bear, and he's in the ground, three limbs in.

00:41:56.000 Bear, God rest his eternal doggy soul.

00:41:59.000 Sway, you dress your dog up, do you, mate?

00:42:01.000 I have two standard poodles.

00:42:04.000 Oh, man, what have they got?

00:42:05.000 Like four little outfits.

00:42:06.000 And we live in New York, so.

00:42:08.000 Oh, mate, come on.

00:42:08.000 Snow and fall.

00:42:10.000 How do you think they get on with them grizzlies? 0.92

00:42:12.000 I think you'd have to sacrifice those poodles.

00:42:15.000 They're pretty brilliant, though, those poodles.

00:42:18.000 Are they?

00:42:18.000 Oh, yeah, they'd probably make some sort of weapon.

00:42:21.000 Right, oh, they're a bright animal.

00:42:24.000 They're so smart.

00:42:25.000 Like John Rambo, First Blood.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, it's kind of like your dog.

00:42:28.000 So Coco's become a survivor.

00:42:31.000 Coco's had to survive.

00:42:32.000 Because she's not like the family.

00:42:33.000 We've got gators here. 0.97

00:42:35.000 You're going to have to sub wrap the gators down here.

00:42:38.000 Yeah, there's gators.

00:42:39.000 We've got gators.

00:42:40.000 A lot of black bears. 0.91

00:42:41.000 You've got to get them gators into a bin, into a trash can, dumpster. 0.62

00:42:46.000 Maybe we should film that, you with a gator.

00:42:48.000 I would love that. 0.95

00:42:50.000 Wrestling.

00:42:50.000 Although I'm quite squeamish, and my daughters have got pet rabbits, and I don't even really like touching them much.

00:42:55.000 I don't like to feel their little bodies under the skin, and I don't like that they've got no pads and that their claw goes straight into their arms.

00:43:01.000 So maybe I'm not ready for a gator, is what I'm saying.

00:43:05.000 I'm scared of rabbits.

00:43:06.000 I can see that.

00:43:08.000 Just make sure your rabbits don't invite the snakes.

00:43:11.000 The snake did come.

00:43:13.000 Yeah?

00:43:13.000 Yeah.

00:43:14.000 It was like a garden.

00:43:16.000 What was it?

00:43:17.000 It was like 15 feet long.

00:43:19.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:43:20.000 It was a big snake, but it was not venomous.

00:43:22.000 No.

00:43:23.000 That's okay then.

00:43:24.000 It was an anaconda.

00:43:26.000 It was.

00:43:27.000 An anaconda?

00:43:29.000 It looks like an anaconda.

00:43:30.000 I should have put that in.

00:43:31.000 This is quite a nice part of the show, this informal bit.

00:43:33.000 Here it is, the snake.

00:43:34.000 We can just pull anything.

00:43:36.000 Yeah, this is quite nice.

00:43:37.000 This.

00:43:38.000 Is it quite nice to have an informal bit like this?

00:43:40.000 This bit, yeah, we're just sort of sitting down relaxed.

00:43:43.000 Right, yeah, maybe kind of a bit looks like this.

00:43:45.000 Do you have any questions?

00:43:48.000 What if someone joined?

00:43:49.000 Yeah, Sean, would you mind taking your top off?

00:43:53.000 Magic mic stuff.

00:43:56.000 Passey's got a question. 0.85

00:43:57.000 Give her a mic.

00:43:59.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:44:02.000 Thanks, Nikki.

00:44:02.000 In the documentary that you were filming, you said the possession part.

00:44:06.000 Are you talking about the people?

00:44:08.000 So if I went there with you, I would have the potential of being possessed and my eyes would go black and I start going crazy?

00:44:15.000 Yeah, I've seen about five or six people.

00:44:16.000 Are you kidding?

00:44:17.000 I haven't.

00:44:18.000 We watched it.

00:44:19.000 I am taking back.

00:44:21.000 Going there then because I just thought I couldn't get hurt, so I would just go and it would be fun and scary.

00:44:25.000 But if I can get possessed, we were shooting when we were shooting the film.

00:44:30.000 So we were doing an actual feature film, we were shooting in real mental, abandoned mental hospitals.

00:44:37.000 And even our actress, who was just in one of the hospital scenes, all of a sudden she started laughing uncontrollably.

00:44:45.000 And yeah, we kept it in the movie, but like she just went into this hysterical laughter for like 30 seconds or 45 seconds, and then she slowly came out of it.

00:44:54.000 But she didn't know what happened.

00:44:57.000 So, now how'd you feel, Pat?

00:44:58.000 Sane.

00:44:59.000 About prancing through the lunatic asylum in the middle of the night.

00:45:03.000 It's not our own car wash.

00:45:06.000 So, Russ, you didn't explain it the best way, but the power surge that happened.

00:45:11.000 So, we're watching this documentary.

00:45:13.000 I did a good job of explaining it.

00:45:15.000 You said a power surge, but that could have been like sexual power.

00:45:19.000 A movie?

00:45:20.000 No, exactly.

00:45:21.000 So, what kind of power surge?

00:45:22.000 So, we're sitting there filming this thing, like, I don't know if this is real, and it's getting kind of intense.

00:45:27.000 And then all of a sudden, the lights flash.

00:45:29.000 And then his camera just froze red.

00:45:33.000 I didn't like that.

00:45:34.000 So, and then we started laughing like he couldn't have staged that.

00:45:37.000 This never happened in the studio.

00:45:39.000 And Massey sent me stills, and here they are.

00:45:41.000 Have a look at them.

00:45:42.000 Like, we'll put that in after.

00:45:43.000 Look, and I turned all red.

00:45:45.000 So you can watch the watch along with me and Sean.

00:45:46.000 And yeah, you're right.

00:45:47.000 So, while literally while I was questioning Sean about, look, come on, how do we know that you've not staged it and that you didn't put that laughter noise?

00:45:55.000 Like, I'd get one of my mates to sort of play a tape or to do it downstairs.

00:45:58.000 And while I was doing that, I was sort of like, you know, the camera went wrong.

00:46:03.000 Do you know, like, I mean, am I explaining it right this time?

00:46:05.000 I'm not, am I?

00:46:06.000 You are, that's perfect.

00:46:07.000 I'm actually skeptical, and all of a sudden the power just surged.

00:46:11.000 And then I think when I was talking about it this time, the book flew off the shelf over there, didn't it?

00:46:14.000 And Vicky and Julie, I'm sorry, I'm not Joy, Jamie.

00:46:18.000 The book came off the shelf, like, literally couldn't.

00:46:21.000 It is not one that could have fallen.

00:46:23.000 They could not have fallen.

00:46:24.000 See, that's crazy.

00:46:25.000 Was the cross upside down?

00:46:26.000 Ah!

00:46:28.000 The cross was upside down!

00:46:30.000 Ah!

00:46:31.000 The only conclusion we can draw from all this supernatural activity is that you should buy my book, How to Become a Christian, in seven days, available now.

00:46:39.000 The audio book's available for free.

00:46:41.000 You should watch Sean's content.

00:46:43.000 And I think we're going to make things together that will permeate the mainstream.

00:46:47.000 Because after, hopefully, if it's God's will for me to be acquitted for these various charges that I didn't do any of, then I'd like to, after that, I want to focus on making, I really want to find ways of having this conversation.

00:46:59.000 You know, the question I asked you that was one of the very long ones where I went, how are we going to make content that's going to reach as many people as possible while not being exclusive?

00:47:06.000 So, people that are like being lifelong Christians and members of churches are like, no, they get it and they're being respectful.

00:47:11.000 Or then people that are like, Jesus, I'm not having that. 0.99

00:47:15.000 That's that bullshit they were telling me at school. 1.00

00:47:16.000 Or people that are seekers and stuff all go, oh, no, that's the truth. 0.99

00:47:21.000 Because, in a way, that's what someone said, someone else said this to me and I've just remembered it.

00:47:24.000 They said that the apostles were content creators.

00:47:27.000 That's what they were. 0.99

00:47:28.000 They went, we better make some content about him because people are going to fuck up without him. 0.99

00:47:34.000 Sure. 0.99

00:47:34.000 That's how we've got to do it. 0.99

00:47:35.000 So, let's record it.

00:47:36.000 Sparklight reignite.

00:47:37.000 Sparklight reignite.

00:47:39.000 The new.

00:47:40.000 Album from Jake Smith and Russell Brand.

00:47:42.000 We should collaborate on an album as well.

00:47:43.000 About time you did an album with me, you've done an album with everyone else.

00:47:46.000 And the best advertisement for this book is if this book is in your library, you will not be haunted by any ghosts.

00:47:51.000 Oh, that's good.

00:47:52.000 That's right.

00:47:53.000 That's right.

00:47:54.000 You will be protected and preserved.

00:47:56.000 Are you being troubled by phantoms?

00:47:58.000 Of course you are.

00:48:00.000 Well, buy this book, you'll be protected, especially you, Patseen, and you, Sway.

00:48:04.000 You can't rely on those poodles to protect you.

00:48:07.000 You need this book.

00:48:08.000 All right, shall we wrap it up?

00:48:09.000 That was good.

00:48:09.000 Thanks, everyone.

00:48:10.000 Thanks for your contributions.

00:48:11.000 Thanks, John.

00:48:11.000 That was great, mate.

00:48:13.000 Wake up.

00:48:13.000 I'll send it back to you.

00:48:15.000 I'll send it back to you.

00:48:17.000 Thank you.

00:48:17.000 Cue the music.

00:48:18.000 Hey, remember me and my wife Laura every weekend make this podcast.

00:48:26.000 You can listen to it wherever you listen to podcasts or you can enjoy it here on Rumble.

00:48:30.000 It's difficult to explain, but here is a section to give you an idea of what we talk about.

00:48:43.000 The reason I picked up the Bible then is because the book of Isaiah is full of like, you unfaithful, like, he's like, is an expression of God's anger.

00:48:50.000 Like, and that was really great what you gave our daughters.

00:48:52.000 How do you think God would feel like not being acknowledged like that?

00:48:58.000 And how it sort of says is, Hear me, heaven.

00:49:01.000 Hear me, you heavens.

00:49:03.000 Listen, earth, for the Lord has spoken.

00:49:05.000 I reared children and brought them up, but they rebelled against me. 0.57

00:49:08.000 The ox knows its master, the donkey its owner's manger, but Israel does not know. 0.51

00:49:14.000 My people do not understand. 0.99

00:49:16.000 Woe to the sinful nation, a people whose guilt is great, a brood of evil doers, children given to corruption.

00:49:22.000 They have forsaken the Lord. 0.51

00:49:24.000 They have spurned the Holy One of Israel and turned their backs on him.

00:49:28.000 Why should you be beaten anymore?

00:49:29.000 Why do you persist in rebellion?

00:49:31.000 Your whole head is injured, your whole heart afflicted from the sole of your foot to the top of your head.

00:49:35.000 There is no soundness, only wounds and bruises and open sores.

00:49:39.000 Like, you know, how would, like, it was a brilliant instinct you had to say, how does God feel when you do not acknowledge and Praise the creator of all the universe.

00:49:48.000 You look up at these stars, you look at the glory of nature, you see the patterns and rhythms that are available, you feel the love that you have for one another.

00:49:54.000 God is real.

00:49:55.000 Don't deny that God is real.

00:49:57.000 Why don't you start saying, well, actually, a molecular reaction and evolutionary biology suggests that in tribes, reciprocal altruism means that for the cohesion of the tribe, if you reduce everything to anthropology and sociology and psychology, you are deliberately and worshipfully and as devout as any mad moolah declaring your crazy faith is truer than the one true God.

00:50:20.000 Amen.

00:50:21.000 Amen.

00:50:21.000 Can I get an amen, anybody?

00:50:24.000 That's good.

00:50:25.000 Thanks, sir.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, I obviously completely agree.

00:50:29.000 And it was wonderful to see it right in front of me.

00:50:33.000 It was wonderful to see the reaction between the two girls and the feeling of them getting over the hurdle.

00:50:39.000 Thank you.

00:50:39.000 The hurdle of not knowing how to do something and then really understanding.

00:50:44.000 That was very, very nice.

00:50:46.000 And actually, we prayed again today.

00:50:47.000 We did.

00:50:48.000 Because what they ultimately, I won't break it down in every small morsel, but what I'll say is that what I gave them was, I hope.

00:50:56.000 I got them to write their own structure for prayer that starts with the opening of, you know, good morning, God, thanking him for the day, for praising him, for thanking him for three things.

00:51:15.000 I said, thank him for three things, three small things.

00:51:20.000 And I didn't, I said, you're not allowed to use commercial, what did I say?

00:51:26.000 You're not allowed to use like commercial things like, oh, thanks for that.

00:51:30.000 Jar of Nutella or whatever it was.

00:51:32.000 I just said, like, try and look beyond that.

00:51:34.000 Like, yeah, and also try not to use it.

00:51:36.000 Like, they sometimes say they're grateful for something because they're manipulating you into buying it.

00:51:39.000 Thank you for buying me Salish's simple range.

00:51:44.000 Yeah.

00:51:45.000 Thank you for buying me.

00:51:46.000 And even though I haven't bought them, it's just manipulation.

00:51:49.000 So I said, for them, do not use things like that.

00:51:52.000 Like, you know, don't pray for me allowing you to buy something online.

00:51:58.000 Look for simple moments.

00:52:01.000 Go as I said, first of all, go for it.

00:52:03.000 I made them practice three things go big.

00:52:05.000 What do you think?

00:52:06.000 Thank you for my friends, my family.

00:52:08.000 Okay, now hone in, specify family, friends.

00:52:12.000 Now hone in even more than that.

00:52:13.000 Think of something that you did with family.

00:52:15.000 Right.

00:52:16.000 Anyway, so then the next bit was, you know, the thanking.

00:52:19.000 And then it was blessing somebody, one person.

00:52:22.000 Because also, the other thing I notice is they'll list, it'll just become a list, won't it?

00:52:26.000 And we are guilty of it too.

00:52:28.000 When you list and then you have to start remembering everyone's names that you want to thank, it's like an Oscar speech.

00:52:33.000 You know, it's like, actually, why don't you just choose one person to bless, one person with meaning?

00:52:40.000 Sorry, my throat really hurts.

00:52:42.000 One person with meaning.

00:52:43.000 And then, thank you very much.

00:52:48.000 And then, like, round it off.

00:52:50.000 And they wrote it down and they used it in prayer today.

00:52:55.000 The way they've written it is with blank spaces because it will be ever changing.

00:52:58.000 I said, every morning will feel differently, and you have to stop and be still before you pray.

00:53:03.000 Otherwise, you do not know your environment or you cannot receive.

00:53:10.000 You trained our daughters beautifully there.

00:53:12.000 Well done.

00:53:12.000 You should write a book about.

00:53:14.000 Teaching children to pray and the spiritual life of children.

00:53:16.000 It'll be a great idea.

00:53:17.000 Of course, my book, How to Come to Christian in Seven Days Out Now, click the link in the description, get it.

00:53:22.000 If you want it for free as an audio book, click that link there.

00:53:25.000 You can have it for free.

00:53:26.000 We've got our higher aims and money these days.

00:53:29.000 There's a few things that I wanted to touch on.

00:53:32.000 One is the telepathy tapes that my teacher, Jamie Winship, mentioned the other day.

00:53:39.000 The reason I'm interested in this is the telepathy tapes, I know I said that weird, but I'm just simply not going to go back and correct it.

00:53:46.000 They are a.

00:53:49.000 I think it's for now. 1.00

00:53:51.000 Tapes are like autistic kids that were presumed because of their incommunicativeness to have nothing to say. 0.80

00:53:58.000 Actually, when equipped with the correct tech, so props to technology, there revealed that they had these rich inner lives and that they are meeting in this sort of transcendent realm on a hill and they're encountering Christ there.

00:54:11.000 We'll watch these telepathy tapes, we haven't yet.

00:54:12.000 Why don't you watch them too?

00:54:14.000 Let us know in the comments and chat what you think about it.

00:54:17.000 I find this very interesting because it's It's very similar to what I just said.

00:54:20.000 Where there is nothingness, we assume, where there is a void that we may not be able to read, we assume nothingness, but it might be rich and redolent and alive with incredible culture.

00:54:30.000 Kind of like the colonizing assumptions of nations that romped around the world.

00:54:35.000 Oh, this land appears to be empty.

00:54:37.000 There's nothing here.

00:54:38.000 We believe that the land itself. 1.00

00:54:40.000 Shut up! 0.98

00:54:42.000 We assume that there's nothing if we don't understand it. 1.00

00:54:45.000 Well, these incommunicative children have these rich and incredible inner lives.

00:54:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:51.000 I mentioned this because I want to talk about the transfiguration.

00:54:54.000 But before I get into that, I want to mention a few things.

00:54:56.000 I posted on X recently this simply with the word important.

00:55:01.000 You could find the comments if you want to.

00:55:03.000 From the show.

00:55:04.000 If you want to.

00:55:05.000 If you choose.

00:55:08.000 I posted on X with the word important this Mason video.

00:55:12.000 It's meant to be a Freemason lecture.

00:55:13.000 I don't know if it's true or not, but it talks beautifully about sacred geometry and magnetism.

00:55:18.000 I think it's important and relevant.

00:55:20.000 And when one looks at it through a scriptural lens, one finds the absolute.

00:55:25.000 This is because there is an absolute universal principle underlying all things.

00:55:30.000 I am having the interesting experience of simultaneously reading this Jung biography by Frank McLinn while doing a Joe Dispenza meditation, which was bought by our friends, some friends of ours very kindly bought that for us, while also, as always, praying and reading scripture.

00:55:48.000 It's helping me to see some things.

00:55:50.000 That were brought together by the two references Jamie made one to the telepathy tapes, which we should watch, Laura, because I think it's like these autistic kids, they're like, when they're interviewed, they're having weird mystical experiences in there. 0.56

00:56:03.000 And why are these kids autistic?

00:56:04.000 In many cases, some believe, let me know in the comments and chat, because of things like vaccine injury.

00:56:09.000 So when you're trying to understand something that might be abstract and supernatural, like a war between good and evil and how it plays out, consider these things centralized global power, consider two lies, consider deception, consider anti life.

00:56:24.000 Consider decay, death, entropy.

00:56:27.000 Consider something that poses as good.

00:56:31.000 Like when a media, which is supposed to give you information, lies to you.

00:56:34.000 When pharmaceutical companies that are supposed to make you well issue medicines, not always.

00:56:40.000 This is not a blanket statement, but think in particular about the COVID era.

00:56:47.000 It was a window, it was a lens because it was a power grab.

00:56:49.000 It was an attempt to centralize power, to pollute, to control population, to generate infertility.

00:56:55.000 So many extraordinary things happened in that moment.

00:56:57.000 Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.

00:57:00.000 And, you know, one of the things that's a protector against that is if you have a higher calling, if your king is not the king of a nation, but the king of all creation, then you can't be controlled by a government.

00:57:11.000 You will do what that government says as long as it doesn't breach the principles of your God King.

00:57:15.000 You'll go, yeah, of course, if you want us to do this, no problem.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, we'll drive the speed limit, whatever.

00:57:19.000 But if they start saying, yeah, now we want you to, if you start to see diabolical intentions that they want you to worship Mammon, if they want you to spend all of your time locked into pornography, if they deny certain forms of pornography, I'm not suggesting extreme pornography, but notice the prevalence of pornography in our culture and pornographizing images.

00:57:39.000 And notice too that the idea that everything comes from chaos and will return to chaos suggests that there is no innate.

00:57:45.000 Or inherent moral order, do what thou will, shall be the whole of the law.

00:57:49.000 So, this indication that these vaccine injured potentially children that's what some of the parents believe, any event that these vaccine injured children have been saved somehow, what the devil intended for bad, the Lord uses for good, are having prophetic insights and communication.

00:58:04.000 That really, another key spiritual principle is revealed that there is a benevolent, invisible realm accessible within you.

00:58:13.000 You can interface with it, call it God, call it the quantum field if you want to.

00:58:17.000 Call it the source, an accessible potentiality that loves you and cares about you, but requires your participation.

00:58:24.000 If you are not in order, in harmony, in symphony with it, he can't reach you.

00:58:28.000 He doesn't love you.

00:58:29.000 So you've moved out of and beyond his realm and reach.

00:58:32.000 Sin means you've entered into the frequency of selfishness.

00:58:35.000 You are in self.

00:58:36.000 This is something that I write about in the book, How to Become Christian in Seven Days.

00:58:39.000 When you repent of that life and turn towards God, you are a recipient of his grace or his energy, his power.

00:58:46.000 He washes your feet and serves you, gives you the energy to move forward into this reality.

00:58:52.000 Thank you.

00:58:53.000 And actually, I'm actually going back one step because on that telepathy tapes, no one can say it.

00:59:00.000 They literally named that day.

00:59:01.000 Telepathy tapes.

00:59:02.000 I just thought about Daniel Johnson.

00:59:06.000 Daniel Johnson?

00:59:07.000 Yeah, the folk singer.

00:59:08.000 And then you, a minute ago, was he a Christian?

00:59:10.000 Yes, he was actually.

00:59:11.000 I read something the other day about him and I think it said, it came up saying, oh, it was like one of those brief, like Daniel Johnson, because the documentary is called The Devil and Daniel Johnson.

00:59:22.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:59:23.000 And I think, was he autistic?

00:59:27.000 Was he? 0.50

00:59:27.000 So it was going on. 0.50

00:59:28.000 Yeah.

00:59:28.000 Well, I believe what I read was he had a strong Christian upbringing.

00:59:33.000 And one of the things was that he was, felt he was being directed by God, right?

00:59:39.000 Yeah.

00:59:39.000 And then, you know, but his stuff, like whether it's the drawings or the lyrics to the songs, the poems, obviously there's a lot of sadness in it all.

00:59:50.000 But it's quite interesting what you said earlier about the telepathy tapes being a really rich inner world.

00:59:55.000 And he's a good example of someone with a lot of extreme mental health.

00:59:59.000 There's no question that mental illness has many manifestations and expressions, some of which are very troubling and negative and awful.

01:00:05.000 And I certainly wouldn't be blithe or glib.

01:00:06.000 But another thing one might say about mental illness, or at least distortions or anomalies in mental behaviour, is that it means that you are not subject to the patterns of this world.

01:00:15.000 You're not controlled. 0.61

01:00:17.000 An autistic person or a genius, someone outside, someone who's so immune and inured against the patterns. 1.00

01:00:26.000 The grip of this world that they can receive the flow and the grace, they can receive that atemporal mystic magnificence, particularly if trained and disciplined. 0.96

01:00:36.000 This is why I believe so many mentally ill people seem to express archetypal conditions, have archetypal expressions, a continuity. 0.58

01:00:44.000 And I think Dana Johnson is a great example that he was so not in the world that he was like the recipient of simple, childlike understanding. 0.59

01:00:55.000 Like that song, Monkey in a Zoo, I'm thinking of now, is like he's understood oh, we've been chained.

01:01:03.000 We're not free.

01:01:04.000 We're like an animal that's in captivity rather than an animal that's free.

01:01:09.000 He can like sort of express it.

01:01:10.000 Thank you.

01:01:20.000 Well, I hope you enjoyed that conversation.

01:01:22.000 We'll be back next week with another conversation with a brilliant, enlightened, and innovative thinker.

01:01:26.000 In the meantime, if you can, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - July 24, 2026

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