Member of the US Senate, Lindsey Graham, was a man of many talents, but perhaps none more so than his ability to see Israel through the lens of a hawk. In this episode, David Pollock and Pearson discuss his impact on the relationship between the United States and Israel.
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00:12:29.820So it's not just sort of the movement of humans around Capitol Hill we're watching. It's the
00:12:36.320movement of legislation. And I think that's what we want to get into. The National Defense
00:12:40.620Authorization Act goes down in the Senate. They don't have the votes to proceed on to what is
00:12:45.320a very bipartisan bill. I've voted for almost all of them, I think. I've been a part of constructing
00:12:51.620a number of them. Republicans and Democrats usually do work together on this stuff. Not
00:12:57.600getting that in the House of Representatives, Congresswoman Luna, always creative, puts the0.73
00:13:03.380Save America Act on the state and foreign operations funding bill. What are you watching
00:13:07.500on the Hill, David? Yeah, I'm not shocked. The only thing that surprised me today, not that it
00:13:13.600went down in the Senate. It's going to go down in the Senate. What surprised me today was John
00:13:16.840Thune blaming Democrats because his tune this entire time has been like, well, there isn't the
00:13:21.360votes. There's the votes. We don't have the votes. And almost was like, we're not going to take it
00:13:25.300up. He hasn't pointed the finger across the aisle and was like, those people are the reasons not
00:13:29.080passing. He did with this. And so I don't know if his tune is changing on it. I thought that was0.56
00:13:34.420interesting. He's almost softening up. He's almost like digging in for a fight. Now, look, you've
00:13:37.960seen um senator scott um say basically the and mike lee uh senator lee he said we shouldn't recess
00:13:46.220until the save america act is done will john thune pick that up i don't know but he is showing a
00:13:51.540fight that i haven't seen before the house for the fourth time now has given the senate the ability
00:13:55.800to figure out how to pass the save america act they can't figure out how to do it on their own
00:14:01.340maybe john thune's coming around that was my piece of encouragement today you know i spoke to
00:14:05.620congressman mills on my show and he said look we're going to come at this as every single angle
00:14:10.360whether it's reconciliation 3.0 whether it's sending him different kinds of legislation with
00:14:13.620it tied to it we're not going to stop trying to get this thing passed and with the margins they
00:14:17.040have they're still able to get it passed so i think the house is going to keep fighting i think
00:14:20.360john thune eventually is going to find the pressure uh within his own caucus to uh figure
00:14:24.300out how to get this thing at least up for a vote that's the save america act the ndaa could be a
00:14:28.780horse of a different color every democrat in the senate voted against proceeding onto the national
00:14:33.880Defense Authorization Act. There's a lot of good in that bill. Starts of new programs we need,
00:14:38.340pay raises for our troops. 3.6%. Yeah. But there is something in that bill that Pearson Sharp is
00:14:44.740not too keen on, and that is the weaving of our research, development, test, and evaluation
00:14:51.240apparatus into the IDF, into the Israeli Defense Forces. A lot of Democrats spoke to this as one
00:14:58.200of the reasons why they were not willing to proceed on to this bill. Pearson Sharp, were you
00:15:03.440cheering on Democrats blocking the NDAA? It's a weird day when you're glad. You are all torn up.
00:15:10.720It's a weird day. I'm conflicted. Yeah, I'm not sure what's up or down anymore. But it's good
00:15:16.940that we stopped that aspect of it. I agree there are other aspects that should pass. It's crazy
00:15:23.180how much it jumped. Like at 50% doubling, that's insane. That's insane. I don't think we need that.
00:15:29.340I don't think our military needs that, personally.
00:15:31.780So you have a problem with the top line, not just some of the provisions of the bill, but the overall top line spending number would cause you to hit the pause button?
00:15:44.100But I think that, and this is something I'm sure you saw and others could speak to much more intelligently with awareness on,
00:15:51.700But the wasteful spending, the contracts, the military contracts and the defense contractors who just throw away our money on projects that shouldn't be spent.
00:16:05.160And I think if we refined that, if we used our money more efficiently, we wouldn't need $1.5 trillion.
00:16:10.320So I think a lot of that money is wasted and intentionally so because they can.
00:16:24.620You know what they have said to me, the folks at the Pentagon, when I've pressed them on this through the years, they say, Matt, the Pentagon is not built to be efficient.
00:17:17.420My favorite, and I do want David's reaction, but my favorite one we found was, like, they'd spent something like $40 million on eight goats.
00:17:25.660And, you know, clearly that was just on paper.
00:18:36.220Yeah, but when you get to the Pentagon, the last thing you want to do is tell people that are like, hey, listen, we got your back to go, yeah, prove it.
00:18:43.460Let me – why did you – the last thing we need to do is start questioning the people that keep us safe.
00:18:57.280Unfortunately, the thing is the reason why no country is invading our borders,
00:19:02.200the reason why we're able to win these conflicts with minimal service members losing their lives is because we have a well-funded military.
00:19:09.080I voted for President Trump three times.
00:19:11.220I believe President Trump, as commander in chief, goes, this is what I need from our military.
00:19:15.540We need these ships. We need these weapons.
00:19:17.260And I don't think President Trump, as a successful businessman, somebody who doesn't like to waste money, is looking at this saying, yeah, yeah, they're wasting money.
00:19:23.800If he says to Congress, I need this money, he must think it's for a good reason.
00:19:29.220And I don't think it's going to be effective to tie Trump's hands behind his back when he's trying to do a lot of things with our military.
00:23:00.360With respect, well, because look what happened the other day when this war reignited.
00:23:04.820Last week on this show, we talked about what now, right?
00:23:08.620And you mentioned the memorandum being the best possible deal.
00:23:11.740I think a surprise deal happened with the straight-off war moves
00:23:14.660Because Trump was like, I'm just going to charge a 20% toll for the safety and security of the Strait of Hormuz.
00:23:19.780And then a bunch of Arab nations say, wait a minute, I got a better idea.
00:23:22.420What if we just do deals with you and we'll work together to kind of secure the strait?
00:23:26.460There's this weird alliance happening right now between the United States and our Arab partners that I didn't see coming.0.84
00:23:31.360Maybe you did, but I didn't see it coming.0.66
00:23:32.860But we might get out of this war with a closer relationship with the people that Iran used to have a closer relationship with.
00:23:39.400And at the end, they're further isolated.
00:23:40.660isolated. And the reason why I say this is we've had to have this special relationship with Israel
00:23:45.420because they were only ally in the region. But as we start to develop relationships with Oman
00:23:50.060and relations, and I know that the risks involved, but maybe we don't have to make them our biggest
00:23:55.860welfare recipient because there's other countries we can get along with. Turkey is a perfect example
00:23:59.460that maybe also protects our interests. And maybe this is a win-win for everybody. I don't know.0.94
00:24:04.060Wait, wait. Your argument is that emerging out of the rising escalatory ladder that we're on is going to be an Arab-enforced passageway through the Straits.1.00
00:24:16.340That's what I'm hoping. It seems to be building.1.00
00:24:18.420That is so naive, David. That is not happening.
00:24:23.420I don't even get the 20% tariff thing. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong and you can help me, but what does it matter if Iran is denying passage anyway?
00:24:33.180What this war has proven to me is both the United States and Iran can clog up the straits.
00:24:38.680So it becomes an exercise in who can endure the most pain.
00:24:43.600And I don't apologize for the fact that I don't want the people I love and care about,
00:24:48.920and I used to represent Congress, having to be in some pain threshold match0.98
00:24:53.180with the 3,000-year-old civilization of Persia.
00:24:57.140They've proven they can withstand a lot of pain.
00:24:59.100I don't know why we have to withstand it.
00:25:00.680And I do worry that even if what you described happens, you've got another pinch point on the straits off the coast of Yemen.0.83
00:25:08.080And I believe that if Iran has denial capability in the Straits of Hormuz, they'll just use the same tactics and the same cheap drones and the same technology to harass, shipping, deny insurance coverage in the Straits out of the Red Sea.0.83
00:25:27.040Now you've got a compounding problem.0.88
00:25:29.380So I think this is going to get worse before it gets better. I think this is going to be more costly over time. And I still maintain, and I would welcome either of you to challenge me, I still maintain that the MOU that was negotiated represents the best terms for the United States to end this.
00:25:47.920If Iran was an honorable nation and would have abided by the terms of the—I know the argument, you know, Israel is still attacking Lebanon and, you know, there's other—
00:25:58.240Right, but Israel didn't sign on to the MOU.
00:26:00.600But the thing is, Iran is never going to abide by anything because at any moment, just like when they attacked those tanker ships, they said, oh, they were rogue.0.52
00:26:10.340They were rogue because they just decided they were rogue.0.73
00:26:13.100No, they were rogue because they didn't use the Iran-prescribed pathway where they could charge their toll and demand their extraction.0.81
00:26:20.180Right, but Iran will never play by the rules.
00:26:23.880I don't think any of us believe that Iran is going to go, cool, I'm good with this deal.
00:26:27.840Let's call off the war and let's get along right.
00:26:30.060No, I don't think Iran is here for the Mr. Congeniality Award at the UN.
00:26:34.520At the same time, one cannot deny that there was safe passage through these straits before this war.
00:30:12.360So he's passing, you know, trying to get this thing separated with Israel and the NDAA.
00:30:17.120But I noticed that the people who signed on with it were Ro Khanna, Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, Democrat, Jesus Garcia, Democrat of Illinois, and Rashid Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan.
00:30:46.220I think Republicans are concerned what might happen to them after watching what happened to Thomas Massey.
00:30:53.760I mean, Thomas Massey just had tens of millions of dollars dumped on his head in Kentucky and lost a district that he'd won for more than a decade.
00:31:01.220And I think it is a function of political theory.
00:31:05.640I do want to get to another big story exploding on the Internet regarding a figure they call clavicular.
00:31:12.740I had never heard of clavicular, but it is a thing.
00:31:17.500Now, this is a Gen Z influencer who is famous for something called looks maxing.
00:31:25.120And that is you do things to your body.
00:31:28.360Bruise yourself, chisel yourself, even break your legs to have them grow back where you could be at a higher height, at a higher altitude.
00:38:04.000I go home after this podcast and I hammer my face
00:38:06.580i thought that's what we'd do on air um so but but but let me let me make the other argument0.94
00:38:14.220david as to why it does matter look at the generation israel's losing yeah it's not the
00:38:19.260boomers yeah it's gen z yeah but why are they losing gen z yes i get it this could have been
00:38:23.900a great opportunity to take a gen z influencer and kind of change the narrative pro israel
00:38:28.380but in reality all they had to do was not be political i know but but israel's losing a bigger
00:38:34.300battle and that is the battle of propaganda on social media and maybe they're engaged in it maybe
00:38:38.660they're not i don't think uh i mean they they file forms with our government saying they are
00:38:43.680yeah i don't think it's like maybe they are let's just acknowledge it they are yes uh i'm just trying
00:38:48.760to avoid the i like to hammer my own face i'm avoiding having my face hammered involuntarily
00:38:53.860no i'm kidding but uh but realistically i think yes sure israel could have had an opportunity here
00:39:01.040But at the same time, standing up, I don't think the people of Israel would have appreciated him getting a pass.
00:39:07.760At some point, you have to defend your values.
00:39:10.280And I think in this instance, maybe there's other opportunities to attract young people.
00:39:14.360But I think that the issue Israel is having with young people isn't – it's the Internet.
00:39:19.780The Internet is really attacking Israel.
00:39:21.880And I think it's very specific to divide us, which will segue nicely into this ICE stuff.
00:39:26.160Because a lot of the criticism against Israel, it's just being used by people who want to destroy this country to divide us so they can destroy this country.0.91
00:40:52.620is the n-word appearing in a rap song that we're nodding our head to it's not the same thing um
00:40:57.140and so i i really think that that's a difficult example to make but if there was a song that
00:41:02.640like written by somebody like nick fuentes um that said horrible things about the black community
00:41:07.820i don't think that person would be welcomed into the black community just because it would be good
00:41:12.080pr and i think that's the issue here i listened to evanescence in high school i'm sure you still0.89
00:41:17.180You look like it. You look like it. Evanescence.
00:41:20.200Another big thing we got going on in the country right now is how to deal with the ice enforcement.
00:41:25.580We've had multiple of these ice involved shootings.
00:41:29.540We never want to see a shooting, but I have looked at some of the evidence and it does concern me when people are out there agitating ice, getting in the way, creating harmful conditions for the enforcement of our immigration laws.0.81
00:41:42.560So I tend pretty far on the pro-Ice side on all of this.
00:41:48.500If we don't have – there's this big talk about traffic stops now, right?
00:41:53.000Because the traffic stop in a lot of ways is the front porch of a law enforcement encounter.
00:41:59.320Now ICE temporarily potentially pausing these traffic stops.
00:42:03.300President Trump reportedly did not like that news, wants it happening again.
00:42:07.960What are you following in this story, Pearson?
00:46:25.180into something that's much bigger. I can
00:46:26.940give Mark Wayne Mullen a pass by saying
00:46:29.500Nope. He was probably trying to avoid this actually making it more dangerous for ICE officials to do their job. So a temporary pause in traffic stuff maybe would have stopped the behavior. But I think he's approaching it like a reasonable Republican. And as Rush Limbaugh used to say, you being nice to the media or you being nice to Democrats and expecting them to treat you differently is a mistake. And so I think by appeasing them, you only motivate them.
00:46:51.800And I think President Trump has the right approach here in saying, no, no, no, no, we're not taking this away.
00:47:10.640But the fact – the bigger issue here – and you mentioned the one very interesting angle in the Mark Waid-Mullin angle and if there's going to be a disagreement.
00:47:17.040The bigger question is when you have members of Congress, actually sitting members of Congress and mayors of cities like Zoran Mandani running out there and calling ICE agents murderers before the ink is dry on the preliminary report, that immediately puts ICE agents' lives at risk.
00:47:33.960And that, in my opinion, borders on the line of criminal.
00:47:36.800If there was a member of Congress, and you have the right to free speech, but when you call somebody a murderer and you jump to the conclusion that somebody murdered somebody and then there is violence as a result and somebody gets injured, I think you go beyond the House Ethics Committee, which I think as a minimum needs to open investigations to every member of Congress to call federal agents serving their laws, calling them murderers.
00:47:56.840I think we have a bigger issue here, and I'd like to see more media attention being dedicated to that.
00:48:04.300We're seeing this trend around the world where more and more governments are allowing people at the end of life to take their own life, to terminate their life.
00:48:13.760Pearson, you shared with me earlier, 5% of deaths in Canada.
00:52:26.900of course, but do you take medicine? I'm not killing myself with medicine.
00:52:29.480But God created that medicine, so you can... Yeah, but he didn't give you the right to kill
00:52:33.540yourself. And David, Christians don't believe that suffering makes a life worthless. And that's the
00:52:39.580point. You know, mercy means, mercy means easing suffering and refusing abandonment.
00:52:47.880But how would you ease suffering of somebody that... Well, you can, you give them as much
00:52:51.440medication or as help as you can, but at the end, suffering is a part of life. And that doesn't
00:52:55.720mean you get to end it or kill yourself but whose decision is it how much somebody has to suffer
00:52:59.540before they're allowed to be free of the pain this is this is god's realm we don't have the
00:53:05.580right over life and death but you say we so you want to pass a law that says because of your
00:53:09.900religious belief somebody has to suffer until they're pumped with morphine to die it is not
00:53:14.600charitable to kill people because they're suffering that is not the charitable thing to do
00:53:20.180And setting aside the religious aspect of it, there's also the terrifying implications of giving the government that ability.
00:53:28.980And that is almost more concerning at this point because there's one story that I was encountering here where this woman with back pain in Canada, she goes to the hospital for back pain.
00:53:42.200And the first thing the doctor says was, well, have you considered suicide?
00:53:46.340Well, I think they asked that at the ER.
00:53:48.580and that's just in san diego like jokes aside though that's just one example there are lots of
00:53:53.460them that are similar and but you think this is a communist cajoling you don't think that question
00:53:59.900is like preventative you think it's trying to cajole the person yes yeah and there have been
00:54:04.000a lot of these cases there have been a lot of these cases we could make a whole report about
00:54:07.460this and i probably should where these communist governments want to kill the people they just want
00:54:12.540to get rid of them they get older they get sick or whatever it is to me it'll be interesting to
00:54:16.060see if free market healthcare goes this way too, or if this actually is a feature, an
00:54:23.360outgrowth of, of, of socialized medicine.
00:54:26.440It would depend on the reimbursement, which is probably what is so, uh, blood boiling
00:54:32.400for Pearson and many others when they say like, no, you don't, you were actually, it
00:54:37.620is, it is sacrilegious to treat a beating heart, a soul, a living life, like a line
00:54:43.980item on a spreadsheet that can just be deleted because it's economically efficient to do so
00:54:48.420communists don't value life it's meaningless they don't care about you they don't care about me i0.97
00:54:52.400don't care about anything it's his power and so sure go ahead kill yourself we don't care in fact1.00
00:54:57.400fine please do it get you know get rid of yourself stop being a burden on us they've been actually0.99
00:55:02.040offering this to children that was one of the headlines that came out recently yeah there was
00:55:05.680a kid they actually offered suicide to i think he was like eight oh geez so that would be terrible
00:55:36.600I get to hand the baton to my good friend, David Pollack.
00:55:39.440David Pollack, Primetime brings you all the big newsmakers, analysis, the people driving the discussion on social media, and you will not find better investigative reporting than the sharp report right here on One America News. Just put your television on One America News and then drop your remote into the nearest body of water that you can find and you will find the sharp report available to you. Thank you guys so much. We'll be back next week.
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