The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - October 09, 2026


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00:01:48.100 David Pollack is the host of David Pollack Primetime, my good friend, piping in from San Diego.
00:01:53.880 buddy, I saw some interesting polling from our home state of Florida, and I want to get right
00:02:00.200 to it because Republicans are in the lead, but you're not looking at DeSantis numbers. You're
00:02:05.720 not looking at Trump numbers. Through the magic of television, our producers will have on the
00:02:10.020 screen at this moment when we broadcast the Mason-Dixon poll, which shows Congressman
00:02:17.140 Donalds with a lead outside the margin of error over David Jolly. Ashley Moody beats Angie Nixon
00:02:24.720 knocking down 50 percent of the vote. That seems to be the more comfortable lead. Here's what I
00:02:30.520 found interesting about the Mason-Dixon poll. It does have a breakdown by race and Ashley Moody
00:02:37.420 and Byron Donalds get the same percentage of the black vote. Byron Donalds has been working hard
00:02:46.780 for these crossover votes. He did an event at FAMU. He had an interview this week with Uncle
00:02:52.660 Luke. He's been on the Breakfast Club. He had campaign events in Overtown. And he has the same
00:03:00.900 share of the black vote as Ashley Moody, who's running against Angie Nixon. First of all,
00:03:06.280 David Pollock, your reaction to the overall comfort that maybe, you know, maybe not, not a,
00:03:12.360 We'll call it an anxious comfort that is sitting over the Republican team in Florida now.
00:03:17.960 But also, are you buying the conclusion in the Mason-Dixon poll that despite his efforts, Byron Donalds has not broken into a greater share of the black vote?
00:03:29.080 I think there's something we saw in 2024.
00:03:33.100 We started seeing this in 2016, the share of the black vote that went to Donald Trump.
00:03:37.540 So I think what we're seeing is a carryover of the black vote that came to the Republican Party, not because Donald Trump was black.
00:03:45.160 It's because Republicans are breaking more conservative now because they're tired of the games of the left.
00:03:50.940 I mean, the black community, they love God.
00:03:54.620 Arguably, they love guns as much as we do.
00:03:57.380 They love all of the things that are important to us, families and conservatism.
00:04:02.620 It speaks to a lot of communities, the Hispanic community and the black community.
00:04:05.960 the difference is on the left they try to shove people in these boxes and say oh look we got
00:04:10.560 black voters we got hispanic voters we have asian voters we got women we and they try to
00:04:14.380 check all these boxes as if it's some sort of uh you know magazine cover in some woke university
00:04:20.120 the republican party we don't care as long as you're conservative you can be black conservative
00:04:24.920 hispanic conservative who cares and that you're starting to see in this polling is the fact that
00:04:29.620 conservatives are conservatives the republican party was the party of black americans i mean
00:04:34.740 that's how we started and it's good to see a larger share of the black community coming home
00:04:38.860 to the party that they had a large part in forming i do think we need to do some better outreach and
00:04:43.180 i'm and i it's not on racial issues so just because byron donalds happens to be black i don't think
00:04:48.200 black conservatives vote for byron donalds because he's black i think black conservatives vote for
00:04:52.500 conservatives because we speak to their values and i think if we went and did more um outreach
00:04:58.840 into the black and hispanic communities i think we'll get a larger share of of voters in those
00:05:03.720 communities once we all start seeing eye to eye so let me ask you this question i'm going to put
00:05:10.920 you on the spot now and you know i'm going to go pull this clip after the election 100 is byron
00:05:15.100 donald's going to get a greater share of the black vote than ronda sanus yes definitely yeah but
00:05:22.400 that's again the trump effect is he going to get a greater share than donald trump i think it'll be
00:05:25.920 very close to equal that's going to be my very interesting now now trump got black men being
00:05:32.540 hire the black women than DeSantis. Yes, of course. But I mean, look, I was so I was having
00:05:38.920 a conversation with somebody who is looking at possibly running for president in 2028. Not not
00:05:43.820 one of the maybe top two or three names you hear, but someone who's looking at it. And they said,
00:05:49.280 you know, Matt, if I became the nominee, the coalition might look different. It might not
00:05:54.040 have as as black a complexion as the Republican Party did under Donald Trump. There'd have to be
00:06:01.380 other features of the coalition. And here's where I land. No one is going to get the same
00:06:09.640 share of the black vote in the Republican Party as Donald Trump. Donald Trump was like synonymous
00:06:15.160 with excellence in black culture. He was regularly referenced in rap music, hip hop music as like
00:06:24.360 having arrived, having succeeded. So Donald Trump is just a completely different character
00:06:30.560 when it comes to getting a really strong transformational share of the black vote.
00:06:35.420 And I love Byron Donalds.
00:06:38.660 I'm going to vote for him.
00:06:39.700 I hope he's elected governor.
00:06:40.740 I think he will do a good job as governor.
00:06:42.860 But I just don't see a lot of evidence that there's going to be a fundamental change in
00:06:49.800 the black vote in the governor's race in Florida relative to the other contests that are on
00:06:56.400 the ballot.
00:06:56.960 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:06:57.660 And by the way, if I'm wrong, it's going to be a blowout.
00:07:00.780 And Byron Donalds is going to be a transformative figure in Republican politics.
00:07:05.580 And I sincerely hope that's the case.
00:07:07.480 But do you think – I mean it sounds like you think he is going to – Donalds does outperform with those black voters in your mind, right?
00:07:16.340 I think he performs consistent with Trump.
00:07:18.900 And this is – and to your point, I think who we select – this is a very important sort of time for the Republican Party.
00:07:26.420 And we talked about this on last week's show.
00:07:28.740 Is the Republican Party Trump's party?
00:07:30.460 Is it Republican MAGA, right?
00:07:33.060 And I think you and I agreed that MAGA is the Republican Party now.
00:07:36.680 So the question is what candidate is going to get the nomination?
00:07:40.600 If we go back to the candidates of elections past, the Mitt Romneys of the world, the John
00:07:45.780 McCains of the world, the boring white guys of the world, I don't think we carry the same
00:07:50.440 share of the black vote.
00:07:51.440 Again, not because black voters vote for people who are black or white.
00:07:55.780 I think black voters vote for people who speak to them, and I don't think a Mitt Romney or John McCain can go into Overtown or into Hialeah and speak to black or Hispanic voters.
00:08:06.280 I think whoever becomes a nominee has to be able to connect with those communities like Donald Trump did, and that's the secret to our success.
00:08:14.360 If Mitt Romney were in Overtown, he would need a team of bodyguards and a translator.
00:08:19.620 That would be terrific reality television.
00:08:22.200 One thing that is not reality television, but it impacts people's lives, and it is the story everyone's been talking about, the Cornell 7.
00:08:31.900 Oh, wow, yeah.
00:08:32.420 David, I know you and I are attorneys, and we believe in due process, and we understand that allegations are not indictments, indictments are not convictions.
00:08:43.320 And so we have to be very careful about this. But how can you not look at some of the inconsistent statements of the accuser here and the drug use and the kind of mixing of clearly like consensual behavior with now allegedly non-consensual behavior?
00:09:05.580 It looks like you don't have a real accurate historian from any side of this story to be able to narrate or decipher what happened.
00:09:17.240 And at the same time, everyone should have the chance to make any claims that they want to make in court and have that reasonably tested.
00:09:24.520 But I look at the inconsistency in evidence and think about how a finder of fact would resolve that.
00:09:32.300 And then at the same time, I see the president of the university come out and say, what happened to Jane Doe?
00:09:40.940 It sort of adopts what she is alleging as an accurate reflection of history.
00:09:47.300 And then I see Tish James, who's now in charge of the investigation, posting on Facebook, we stand with you, the accuser.
00:09:56.300 So, like, how are we supposed to get justice here when our natural inclination as officers of the court is to lean toward due process and thorough review of the evidence?
00:10:08.860 But you've got these pronouncements of people in power that are getting way ahead of any true finding of fact.
00:10:17.240 Do we have two hours?
00:10:19.120 You've brought up so many things, and I'm going to try to dissect it briefly for the sake of a show that moves along quickly.
00:10:27.940 Let's break each one down.
00:10:29.220 Let's talk first about the problem with the case, and there's a reason why this prosecutor didn't bring the case, and it wasn't just because he didn't have all the records.
00:10:35.180 You have seven allegedly seven or more supposedly people who were involved as whatever we want to call them.
00:10:46.780 I'm being careful with how I describe these seven people.
00:10:49.360 Let's call them participants, correct.
00:10:51.680 You have seven, essentially, participants.
00:10:54.500 Then you have this one woman, and there is arguably, she admitted to doing drugs.
00:11:00.300 She admitted to drinking alcohol.
00:11:02.200 There's some discussion with what they remember or don't remember.
00:11:04.960 There was different stories.
00:11:06.520 Then there was the weird recorded phone calls after the fact, as if she was trying to build a record, which was odd in and of itself.
00:11:13.160 The issue is witnesses.
00:11:14.180 If all those seven have either the same or different takes about what happened, who testifies against who?
00:11:21.320 And if you want to – and for – to lift the veil on the legal process works is reasonable doubt is the standard.
00:11:28.640 This case is reasonable doubt, like on a silver platter, because you have no consistent stories.
00:11:33.460 The whole thing is reasonable doubt.
00:11:34.720 And the problem is there's doubt whether or not there's consent right out the gate.
00:11:38.640 So the case is terrible.
00:11:40.480 It's almost impossible to try this case and win.
00:11:43.200 The best thing you can hope for is a plea deal, but at this point, I don't think they bring a single prosecution because, as you mentioned, Tish James came out and tarnished the entire prosecution with establishing bias, and the governor as well, establishing bias before an investigation.
00:12:00.360 Wait, wait, wait. You're saying you don't think she's going to file charges in this case?
00:12:04.120 No, of course she's going to.
00:12:05.400 Oh, I think she's going to.
00:12:06.640 She's been given this thing.
00:12:07.900 Yeah. No, I think she does.
00:12:09.440 Well, is that a screw you from Hochul? First of all, everyone in New York knows that Tish James and Kathy Hochul hate each other. They hate each other. James almost ran against Hochul. They are not allies. Is it kind of a hot potato? Is it a problematic case that Hochul assigns this to Tish James? Because if she brings charges and loses, the left will go nuts. And if she utilizes prosecutorial discretion, there's a lot of political risk there too.
00:12:39.440 Well, let me finish the thought on Tish.
00:12:43.040 Okay, okay.
00:12:44.180 This is a hard – and we'll get to that because it's a great point.
00:12:47.820 This is a woman who made it clear that her job was to go and get Trump.
00:12:51.180 Now, this is somebody who was indicted herself on mortgage fraud but for an appointment issue that I think was BS.
00:12:57.840 She would be in serious trouble right now.
00:13:00.300 Now, we all saw the prosecutions against President Trump.
00:13:03.420 I think most reasonable people will say, okay, this is somebody who weaponized her office.
00:13:08.180 and then you go and take this case
00:13:10.740 and then she goes
00:13:12.500 and makes her judgment
00:13:14.160 apparent before she even brings in prosecution
00:13:16.680 this is going to turn into
00:13:18.520 yet another circus and another reminder
00:13:20.480 of what weaponized justice looks like
00:13:22.540 this will be a mess, right?
00:13:24.260 Maybe they want it, maybe they don't, but let's put that aside for a second
00:13:26.700 and use it as a reminder
00:13:28.040 for all the people looking to vote or are voting right now
00:13:30.840 these are the people that want you to put them back in power
00:13:33.020 don't give them that power
00:13:34.020 but the timing of this, and this is to your second question
00:13:37.140 your follow-up, Hochul. I think they're thinking about 2028. The timing of this is really odd.
00:13:44.160 You can think, okay, maybe they're thinking short-term, the midterms, let's make a midterm
00:13:47.460 issue out of this. But then you look at 2028. Does Hochul want to run for president? Do they
00:13:52.940 have to go and kind of get these skeletons out of the closet to kind of clear things up? AOC
00:13:57.380 wants to run for president. So it's a really interesting timing that they're bringing this
00:14:01.880 out now. And this case was decided that it wasn't going to be prosecuted two years ago. The lawsuit
00:14:06.040 is filed in september two months and really just a month before people start voting the timing of
00:14:11.620 this is suspicious that the fact that this went so political so quickly when this has been known
00:14:15.600 about for two years is suspicious and i think at the end of the day no justice will be served and
00:14:20.460 by the way it's now starting a hashtag is trending on x he too because now one of the alleged you
00:14:26.560 know participants is now saying no he was taken advantage of by the alleged victim so now we have
00:14:32.760 a he too moment if we're believing all victims well then we have to believe him this is a mess
00:14:36.820 nobody wants to touch it and i think uh they i think the democrats have opened up a can of worm
00:14:41.840 for themselves with this one honestly maybe the male who is alleging that he was victimized
00:14:49.800 could identify as a female for the purpose of making the allegation and under the guise of
00:14:56.280 believe all women and anyone can be a woman that might change the standard of review for the
00:15:02.640 online mob, but I think as attorneys, best to let people make their allegations, have those
00:15:10.980 reviewed against the record, and proceed forward. So another big case that comes out of the courtroom
00:15:16.740 and almost into a science fiction novel is the Krista Pike bailed execution in Tennessee.
00:15:24.840 She is back conscious again, David. She is back conscious again. This is the woman who lured a
00:15:31.620 victim to her death, tortured her victim over a disagreement about a boyfriend. Now she was set
00:15:40.820 to be executed. She was administered what was supposed to be a lethal cocktail of drugs by
00:15:45.860 lethal injection. She complained of arm pain. Some believe she may have blown out a vein.
00:15:52.400 It did not result in the termination of her life. She is back conscious. David Pollack,
00:15:57.100 What chapter of the book are we in if we're botching the executions?
00:16:02.420 I don't even know.
00:16:03.920 I've covered this extensively, and there's a lot of different theories we can go with.
00:16:07.720 One, it's just negligence because this is the second person they botched an execution of just this year in Tennessee.
00:16:14.240 There was another man.
00:16:15.400 They tried to execute.
00:16:16.320 Same exact problem.
00:16:17.380 They couldn't get it right.
00:16:18.700 Lethal injection is very inconsistent as far as an execution method.
00:16:25.240 It's failed multiple times.
00:16:26.660 It's botched more than any other execution method, which is why people are trying to come up with other options for executions.
00:16:32.720 Interestingly enough, though, I started covering you for capital punishment.
00:16:37.100 100 percent. Absolutely. 100 percent.
00:16:39.120 This woman just when you go up against the libs who are who are against capital punishment.
00:16:45.500 Let me let me get the best David Pollack laydown of the pro capital punishment argument.
00:16:53.200 Liberals are in favor of abortion up until birth.
00:16:56.180 They're in favor of abortion now up until 12 years old in places like the Netherlands.
00:17:01.020 They are in favor of protecting the life of murderers.
00:17:06.340 The only death they don't like, essentially, is the criminals, right?
00:17:11.880 The Lindsay Clancys of the world, the Krista Pikes of the world.
00:17:15.620 The only death that's not okay for them are the criminals.
00:17:19.640 Innocent children, fine.
00:17:21.400 Old people, fine.
00:17:23.100 Anybody can be put to death except for criminals.
00:17:25.360 Now, that is not even my argument.
00:17:27.760 That's common sense's argument.
00:17:29.620 Yes, if you murder somebody in a heinous way like Krista Pike did,
00:17:32.740 where she literally cut somebody over the course of an hour,
00:17:36.320 had them choking on their own blood alive during the entire time,
00:17:39.620 being tortured as a pentagram was carved into her chest,
00:17:43.240 there was this woman.
00:17:44.060 Her victim finally died when her head was bashed in by a chunk of asphalt.
00:17:49.420 That was her cause of death, blunt force trauma.
00:17:52.080 And then this woman took a piece of her skull as a souvenir.
00:17:54.280 her mother had to get it from the evidence room
00:17:56.560 so she can bury her daughter whole
00:17:58.320 I don't care how sad she was
00:18:00.360 what kind of childhood she had
00:18:01.680 a lot of people come from bad childhoods
00:18:04.140 this woman is sick
00:18:05.220 and for all the people who said well she was there a long time
00:18:08.160 well guess what
00:18:08.980 after she was put in prison
00:18:11.040 facing her death sentence
00:18:12.760 I think it was six years later she tried to strangle a woman
00:18:15.320 with a shoelace
00:18:16.120 this woman is a serial murderer
00:18:18.300 and now let's get to the execution part
00:18:21.540 was it done on purpose
00:18:23.140 She requested an all-woman team.
00:18:25.920 Interesting.
00:18:26.940 She didn't eat or drink for the two days before as if she knew it would impact the lethal injection.
00:18:33.460 Now, the fact that she was in the hospital almost died.
00:18:36.440 How can you even request an all-woman team?
00:18:39.160 How is that even a choice?
00:18:39.980 I don't even know.
00:18:40.920 I don't even know.
00:18:41.740 If you go to the family doctor, you can't even request that.
00:18:46.040 And you're telling me you get gender selection in your executioner?
00:18:51.940 What?
00:18:52.340 And you look like she wouldn't choose a last meal, but apparently she chose her audience.
00:18:57.800 That was weird, too.
00:18:58.940 The whole thing was odd.
00:19:00.780 You know, I don't know if they botched it on purpose, considering she almost died from the botching.
00:19:04.520 Unless that's part of the plan, too.
00:19:05.920 We have to make you sick enough that they won't do it again.
00:19:08.240 I don't know.
00:19:09.180 It's a weird case.
00:19:10.320 It's just why Tennessee shut their executions down for the rest of the year to look at it.
00:19:14.300 I think the lethal injection should probably not happen.
00:19:17.500 Death penalty certainly should.
00:19:19.040 lethal injections should not happen because they're really unreliable the good old hanging
00:19:24.040 the firing squad which we'll get to later with nadal hassan um i think those tried and true
00:19:29.000 methods of executions the guillotine throw them off a tall building i don't care but let's find
00:19:34.340 something more reliable than the lethal injection and if we're going to do lethal injection matt
00:19:38.620 let's go get the people from made maid this is this organization in canada that has put hundreds
00:19:44.280 of thousands of Canadians to death for things like depression associated with some physical
00:19:49.900 impairment. If they're able to execute people so efficiently in Canada, why can't we execute
00:19:54.560 people in Tennessee? You just heard the worst America last take on importing executioners
00:20:03.960 from David Pollack. We ought to be able to kill our own Americans, David. We ought to be able to
00:20:07.760 train the criminals. You would be for H-1Bs, H-1Bs for executioners. That's what you would
00:20:13.440 great idea. You did give us our terrific transition into the Fort Hood attacker facing
00:20:19.600 firing squad. This was the decision recommended by Secretary Hegstaff, made by President Trump.
00:20:25.920 I actually am rather studied on this. When I was in law school, I took a class on the death penalty
00:20:33.500 and one of the papers I wrote for like our term thesis paper was on the most humane method of
00:20:41.640 execution. And I concluded it was the firing squad. If you look over the data, firing squad
00:20:48.340 has a certainty of success in almost every case. You're not going to worry about blowing out a vein
00:20:55.320 with the firing squad. And you don't get some of the problems you have with the electric chair.
00:20:59.900 And I don't know if I tested the guillotine. That might have had some Eighth Amendment cruel and
00:21:04.460 unusual punishment problems. But David, if you had to go, which would you choose? Give me the
00:21:10.080 firing squad i think i'd go with firing squad yeah yeah totally yeah i mean look they and with
00:21:16.860 this and then al hassan and let me let me back up because this is an important thing there are some
00:21:21.560 people that are against death penalty and against abortion i completely respect respecting life at
00:21:27.740 all stages if somebody's against humans taking life because that's for god i respect that
00:21:31.900 completely the issue i have with it and i do believe in capital punishment i think a society
00:21:36.320 has an obligation to its citizens to
00:21:38.160 punish people who take life.
00:21:40.180 Actually, the Bible commands it.
00:21:42.320 But I have such
00:21:44.280 an issue with people suggesting that you can abort
00:21:46.040 children, but yet you can't kill murderers.
00:21:48.300 So that being said, Nadal Hassan.
00:21:50.040 So I'm not being flippant with saying
00:21:52.020 we should kill people. I'm not excited to take life.
00:21:54.680 It's a very
00:21:56.080 difficult thing anytime you have to make that
00:21:58.280 decision. Nadal Hassan, though,
00:22:00.520 killed, what, 20-something
00:22:02.380 U.S. service members?
00:22:04.300 He's – it's 17 years ago at this point.
00:22:06.840 I don't even remember when it was, but it was a long time ago.
00:22:09.400 He has – it's sentenced to – Trump has approved the firing squad.
00:22:13.320 It will be carried out swiftly, by the way, I think before the end of December.
00:22:16.740 And the way they do the firing squad, Matt, as you know in your paper, they put a mark over where your heart is.
00:22:21.260 Everybody gets a magazine.
00:22:22.640 Some have loaded active rounds.
00:22:24.640 Some have blanks.
00:22:25.680 Everybody fires at the same time.
00:22:27.260 Nobody knows who actually fired the lethal shot.
00:22:29.740 But at the same time, it's intended on being painless, swift, and it performs the function as which intended.
00:22:37.700 And that is you shed blood, blood is shed.
00:22:40.900 And look, and honestly, I think that's the appropriate punishment for Nadal Hassan.
00:22:44.360 Absolutely.
00:22:45.040 First execution, by the way, from the Army since World War II.
00:22:50.980 I've got a lot of buddies in northwest Florida.
00:22:53.400 After knowing what Nadal Hassan has been convicted of doing to service members,
00:22:57.760 They would volunteer to have the magazine that was fully loaded and be in that firing squad.
00:23:04.380 And that is certainly the result that he deserves.
00:23:07.360 Going after your own, you know, you're not expecting that.
00:23:11.500 When you join the military, if you go because some enemy force confronts you, that's what you sign up for.
00:23:19.740 But the notion that someone else wearing the uniform turned on an American service member and and put this kind of death into our armed forces, absolutely deserving of capital punishment.
00:23:34.640 You know, David, there there's another story that this is heartbreaking.
00:23:38.780 The video is everywhere online.
00:23:41.200 It comes from police body cam showing a six-year-old accosting a teacher.
00:23:49.380 Let's take a listen.
00:24:08.780 Where is the weapon?
00:24:11.600 It's on the floor.
00:24:12.780 It's over there.
00:24:13.920 Stop.
00:24:14.880 That's not how we stick to each other.
00:24:19.580 I don't care if you call backup.
00:24:21.280 I don't care if I'm going to jail.
00:24:22.320 I don't care if I'm going to jail.
00:24:29.260 A teacher should not have to worry about getting shot by a student.
00:24:34.900 Where are we as a society if this is what you find in the mind of a six-year-old?
00:24:41.100 I feel really bad for this child.
00:24:43.660 And I know it's an odd take from somebody who's like, yeah, death penalty is awesome.
00:24:48.820 This is a kid.
00:24:49.960 And honestly, I have so much respect for that.
00:24:52.520 I don't know if it was a teacher or an administrator, the woman who was restraining him and holding him.
00:24:56.300 Because there's other parts of that where the police ask, is he injured?
00:24:59.280 And she's like, let me see your hands.
00:25:00.200 And then as he's cursing at the cops, she's like, that's not how we talk to people.
00:25:03.400 She used every moment as an opportunity to kind of redirect him.
00:25:07.300 He was a – six-year-olds don't do this.
00:25:09.620 I mean, this is – obviously, I don't know what this kid's childhood would be like.
00:25:13.920 The mother apparently had issues with the police, or maybe she didn't.
00:25:17.980 I don't know.
00:25:18.360 I know she at least had issues after this.
00:25:20.340 But this is a child that's obviously in a bad place and probably not his fault.
00:25:27.540 He's six.
00:25:28.300 I mean, Matt, you know, it's six-year-olds.
00:25:30.360 I mean, this isn't somebody who has the cognition.
00:25:32.400 I'd be like, yeah, I hate my teacher.
00:25:34.040 They can't even conceptualize what that means.
00:25:36.280 And so for him to be in that place, in that mindset, with that emotion, and using the language he used, and shooting his teacher, and then acting as if it wasn't a big deal, I can't imagine what that kid's life was like and what it's going to be like.
00:25:50.260 So I have tremendous respect for whatever educator was there trying to redirect him during that whole thing.
00:25:56.400 It's a terrible situation.
00:25:58.660 That is a very sad.
00:26:00.840 This is a sad story.
00:26:02.160 But yes, you're right. It does highlight the problem is where are we going with a society where a child can talk like that?
00:26:07.680 But that has a lot to do with the parents. How are parents like this having children?
00:26:11.300 And again, you know, we have to have more consequences for parents who do this to children.
00:26:17.420 That's child abuse. If a child is like that, that's child abuse.
00:26:20.220 There's no way a child comes out like that, ends up like that, unless you've really done a number to that kid.
00:26:24.940 it is obviously a tragedy for that teacher yeah having to endure the trauma of this experience
00:26:34.620 yeah i also have to think about where we are as a society when it just comes to any cognition
00:26:43.400 about authority yeah when you think about the sitcoms that you watched in the 70s and 80s
00:26:50.180 it reinforced the sense that in a society with order, there are power structures, right? There
00:26:56.740 are people in the neighborhood that you look to for protection, for leadership. Within a home,
00:27:03.720 there are providers, there are nurturers. And these things come together where we get that
00:27:09.820 authority is reposed on us as we become adults. And then there is an obligation with that authority
00:27:16.600 to use it for the protection and care of others.
00:27:19.620 And it's just kind of how we have preservation as humans.
00:27:24.800 And when we lose that, when there is no order, when a six-year-old can brazenly prepare for
00:27:33.560 jail after putting a bullet through a teacher, we've lost the plot.
00:27:40.480 We've really lost the plot.
00:27:41.760 And do you think it's degraded as much as I see, like when you track how the greatest generation and the generation that came back from World War II thought about authority?
00:27:53.900 And look, part of that is that we've become critics of authority, like entities like the FBI that were heralded in these old sitcoms and in Hollywood.
00:28:03.940 Now we have a lot of questions about them.
00:28:05.800 And the health figures that were like the great heroes became tyrants in some cases during COVID.
00:28:11.980 And so if there has been a big degradation in how we think about authority, is it part because our institutions have failed us in mass?
00:28:22.620 I think this is by design.
00:28:25.160 And if you look what's happening in France right now, I mean, I'm covering it on the show.
00:28:29.300 There's riots in France.
00:28:30.840 They call them student riots.
00:28:32.700 They've burned their schools.
00:28:34.460 They're setting their teachers on fire.
00:28:36.400 They're burning firefighters.
00:28:38.340 They're, I mean, it is, they're waving Palestinian flags.
00:28:41.840 Just craziness happening in France right now.
00:28:44.580 And the teachers' unions are behind this.
00:28:46.500 We've got a sod of it.
00:28:47.620 Let's go ahead and play the sod.
00:28:48.660 Play the sod of France.
00:28:51.760 Oh, my gosh.
00:29:04.460 Yeah, and they claimed that these riots, Matt.
00:29:14.100 All right, so, yeah, walk me through what the grievance is here.
00:29:18.340 Yeah, so they wanted smaller classes, more money for education, supposedly, more money for education.
00:29:27.280 Remember, the teachers' unions framed this whole thing as these are student riots.
00:29:31.640 The students are rioting because they want more from France for their education.
00:29:36.340 That is how they're billing it.
00:29:37.600 Really what this is, and this goes to the six-year-old story, and it goes to so many things that we've talked about on the show with respect to violence and the breakdown of our moral fabric and the excuses for death and murder in some instances.
00:29:50.420 This is the long-term effects of a devious plot to destroy the West.
00:29:55.300 And you see it.
00:29:55.940 When France is burning, that is the West that's burning.
00:29:58.360 And this is what they try to do here.
00:29:59.600 And you have to go back in your mind to maybe a decade ago when we would look at these G7 riots in Europe and you see police cars on fire and that never happened here, you know, until it started to.
00:30:10.120 All the things you see happen in Europe are happening here.
00:30:12.620 And what you're seeing is this Marxist effort to destroy America and the West from within.
00:30:19.280 And it starts in public education.
00:30:21.000 It's always been through education since the 1950s in the Red Scare and when they had these McCarthy hearings and we drove them underground.
00:30:27.940 They went to government. They went to universities. They went to education. And through a series of decades, they have reprogrammed the way we educate our youth.
00:30:37.920 And they indoctrinated them with everything you've just outlined. And every single big operation, every single big event, whether it's COVID, whether it's the election, whether it's no kings, whether it's whatever, it's all really part of a much bigger plot.
00:30:51.200 And that is to get us to distrust government.
00:30:53.840 It's to get us to not like our neighbors.
00:30:55.860 It's to pit us against each other based on race, sexual orientation, whether or not we're vaccinated or wear masks.
00:31:01.360 This whole thing is by design to destroy the West from within.
00:31:05.260 And it's working in Europe.
00:31:06.640 And migration is a huge piece of this, Matt.
00:31:08.620 Opening up the border is a huge piece of that because a lot of those students carrying around Palestinian flags, that's part of it.
00:31:14.720 Because you have to replace the society that's there, change the morals, mix it all up, and then set it loose and set it on fire.
00:31:20.760 We're seeing this happen in Europe.
00:31:22.300 You're seeing it in Germany.
00:31:23.120 You see it in France.
00:31:23.860 You see it all over the place.
00:31:25.060 Look at Souta Spain we talk about.
00:31:26.940 Now, contrast that to what's happening in the West.
00:31:30.000 We have America literally fighting for the soul and the morals of our nation.
00:31:34.720 That's what this election is about.
00:31:35.980 That's what every election is about.
00:31:37.460 It's us versus the communists, the Islamo-Marxists joining together to destroy the society.
00:31:42.400 And then there's hope, Matt, and I'll toss it over to you.
00:31:44.360 There's hope because look what's happening in South America.
00:31:46.980 Eight countries now, all going conservative.
00:31:50.760 The West is becoming a wall to the communist Marxist takeover.
00:31:55.900 Brazil is the biggest piece of the puzzle, and I want to talk about this later because there's this giant election that's happening in Brazil.
00:32:02.360 Now, Jair Bolsonaro, who ran against Lula before, there were some questions about that election.
00:32:09.940 A lot of people thought something happened.
00:32:11.820 Lula puts Jair Bolsonaro in jail for staging a coup.
00:32:15.780 He's in house arrest.
00:32:16.680 His son, Flavio Bolsonaro, who is an excellent human being, a senator in Brazil, is now favorite to beat Lula.
00:32:24.860 And what's Lula doing? Using the courts to try to disqualify him, all that stuff.
00:32:28.240 But the point I'm getting at is this.
00:32:30.120 As South America, as Central America becomes a wall to the Islamo-Marxism and Marxism that we're fighting against,
00:32:37.560 we have an opportunity, this one chance, to not become like France.
00:32:41.280 but six-year-olds shooting children cursing at police women murdering people other women killing
00:32:47.880 their children and women coming out in pink and justifying it all these things are a symptom a
00:32:52.560 long-term symptom of a bigger problem that we have an opportunity to fix back we have an opportunity
00:32:56.960 to fix it well i i do want to get to that point about brazil but first help me understand the
00:33:05.300 the term islamo marxism sure i i've struggled with it i don't really understand it and here's
00:33:11.140 why. I look at a lot of the countries that are run by people of the Muslim faith and they're a
00:33:18.660 lot more fascist than they are Marxist, right? Like if you look at Qatar, the UAE, if you look
00:33:26.200 at, at, at, uh, Iran, if you look at Iraq, these aren't Marxist systems. They're fascist. They're,
00:33:35.500 their central totally centralized control so i would get islamo-fascist that would make a lot
00:33:41.520 of sense to me and then like i you know obviously you've got the muslim world kind of in conflict
00:33:46.000 with israel right now like i've been to a kibbutz in israel that's what that's what marxism looks
00:33:52.920 like to me like it's a it's a communal living like everything belongs to everybody there's not
00:33:58.540 individual property rights there's not individual income dedicated based on your work it's communal
00:34:05.300 So what is Islamo-Marxism, and why is that a phrase I see a lot online?
00:34:14.660 Islamo-Marxism turns into Islamo-Fascism.
00:34:19.760 So Islamo-Fascism is the late effects of Islamo-Marxism, and let me explain.
00:34:23.620 And what you discussed in the kibbutz, this is communism.
00:34:29.100 It is pure form, community sharing.
00:34:31.200 Socialism, it is pure form.
00:34:32.440 Marxism is a vehicle to bring about political change, society change
00:34:37.600 To destroy the political system that is there and replace it with something else
00:34:41.080 A lot of times communism and socialism are tied to Marxism
00:34:44.300 But you have to separate out the methodology of Marxism
00:34:47.720 And the societal values of communism and socialism
00:34:52.820 And to break those down is to understand it
00:34:55.200 And so Islamo-Marxism is essentially when Marxists or Islamists or communists
00:35:02.020 who want to see a communist system over a capitalist system
00:35:05.100 or Islamists who want to see a Sharia-governed system
00:35:08.020 over a capitalist system that use the same Marxist principles.
00:35:11.500 Marxism is a very effective tool to overthrow governments.
00:35:13.720 How does Sharia use Marxist principles?
00:35:16.320 What I understand about Sharia is that it's very prescriptive,
00:35:24.660 whereas Marxism is a horse of a different color.
00:35:28.080 Marxism isn't the law.
00:35:29.580 Sharia is the law.
00:35:31.380 Marxism isn't communism.
00:35:32.960 Communism is the government that's formed after Marxism.
00:35:36.040 Marxism is the vehicle to deliver the form of government
00:35:39.480 that I'm describing.
00:35:40.440 So what happens in the past,
00:35:41.980 you've heard red-green alliance too.
00:35:43.320 There's all these different terms that people throw out
00:35:45.360 and act like they know what they're talking about.
00:35:47.160 But historically, Islamists who want to see Sharia law,
00:35:50.120 this happened in Iran, by the way,
00:35:51.480 in the Iranian revolution,
00:35:52.840 communists and Marxists, or sorry,
00:35:54.700 communists and Islamists joined together
00:35:56.740 and then the Islamists killed the communists
00:35:59.880 and then they rule in an islamo-fascist way in iran so this is yeah because because they don't
00:36:04.800 strike me as a natural coalition they're not a coalition get why that coalition wouldn't hold
00:36:09.460 the the islamists use islamo-marxist they're not suggesting that that's a coalition in america it
00:36:15.980 is a islamo-marxism is a coalition but it's the code it really should be called the islamo-communist
00:36:20.840 coalition using the vehicle of marxism to overthrow the government in charge that's probably
00:36:26.300 a better way to describe it because that is the purest understanding of it it's two groups of
00:36:30.920 people who want to see a different government in america combining forces using the same methodology
00:36:37.200 with the same goal the only disagreement is okay once we overthrow american government who gets
00:36:42.040 to govern now the islamists they're pretty sure they're going to and we're starting to see it
00:36:46.180 places like new york places like michigan you look at al-said look at la nithian raman might
00:36:51.100 be the next mayor so what's happening is the islamo the islamists are using dsa and marxism
00:36:56.640 and socialism as a vehicle to take power but trust me they don't plan on governing together that
00:37:00.680 coalition ends much differently than the communists are expecting it to yeah they don't yeah they
00:37:06.180 don't seem to want the same things right in the end at all now speaking of governments that may
00:37:11.300 be overthrown let's get to brazil this is exciting you and i've both been covering this a lot big
00:37:17.440 stakes and you kind of get the sense flavio bolsonaro is going to win this election how do
00:37:24.060 you think that's going to change the u.s brazil relationship and life for americans it is brazil
00:37:29.400 it is this is and for americans we're like what do i care about brazil i don't even know where
00:37:33.520 brazil is um this election is probably the most important election that we've had i mean between
00:37:41.000 argentina and ecuador and you know you look all these countries like costa rica and we've had a
00:37:45.220 lot of country come our way and they've all been huge brazil is the second large brazil's economy
00:37:50.600 makes up half of the economy in south america brazil is a key partner in bricks the b is brazil
00:37:57.240 brazil is such an important piece of the puzzle of securing our region our hemisphere i should say
00:38:02.740 it is the last piece of the puzzle brazil after venezuela is now sort of playing nice with us
00:38:09.800 if brazil goes conservative and flavio bossanero is the conservative and don't be confused by the
00:38:15.040 fact that it's the liberal party he's the conservative candidate the lula is the is the
00:38:19.820 is the socialist party the people's party the workers party but that said if brazil goes to
00:38:25.000 the bolsonaros we have an ally somebody that will join the um what are they what is what are they
00:38:30.800 calling the coalition against the cartels the shield of americas they will join the shield of
00:38:35.000 the americas they will trade with us over china and and other countries that are adversaries to
00:38:40.080 us this is the most important piece of the puzzle to securing our hemisphere from greenland
00:38:44.680 all the way to the South Pole,
00:38:46.860 our hemisphere will be safe and secure.
00:38:49.320 And then the other countries will come along, by the way.
00:38:51.380 I mean, this is huge for America.
00:38:53.880 We need to watch this very closely.
00:38:55.000 And we need to watch it very closely, Matt,
00:38:56.900 because the president of Brazil now
00:38:59.420 has already petitioned the Supreme Court,
00:39:02.200 Alexandre de Moraes, has already,
00:39:04.300 I think that's how you say it, I don't speak Portuguese,
00:39:06.860 that he's already petitioned him to investigate
00:39:09.660 whether the United States has interfered in the election
00:39:13.240 and whether Flavio Bolsonaro is participating in it
00:39:16.680 and they want to disqualify his candidacy
00:39:19.300 even though on the first ballot
00:39:21.020 Flavio came in first place above the sitting president.
00:39:25.700 This is huge.
00:39:26.960 All the polling, everything suggests Flavio will be the next president
00:39:30.200 if Lula doesn't try to get him kicked off the ballot.
00:39:33.040 And if he does, we're in the same situation we are with Jair Bolsonaro
00:39:35.760 who they put in jail after they tried to disqualify him after the election.
00:39:40.540 So we have to watch this very closely.
00:39:42.340 some games are going to be played and how brazil ends says a lot about how the united states's own
00:39:46.740 political future looks well and i want to drill down on that point do we think it's going to be
00:39:53.660 a fair fight because interestingly in this first round that flavio bolsonaro won it kind of was
00:40:00.940 yeah you know i mean there's the usual censorship that you get the usual restrictions but you didn't
00:40:08.180 see a problem like you saw in the worst expressions of Nicolas Maduro, right? And that could mean one
00:40:18.380 of two things. It could mean Lula's an 80-year-old man. He doesn't want to spend his final chapter
00:40:24.160 in some prison in Miami, and he's going to let this thing go one way or the other, and he's going
00:40:30.760 to try to win a fair fight. The second theory is, well, they saved the tricks for the round that
00:40:37.360 they knew was going to matter. With as many candidates as were on the ballot, highly unlikely
00:40:41.500 that anyone was going to get over 50 percent in the first balloting. And so look out. You could
00:40:47.520 see the more militaristic and devious erosions of election integrity coming. Which which of those
00:40:54.500 camps are you in? I'm more concerned about the latter. And honestly, there were some questions
00:40:57.940 on election night as well. Flavio Bolsonaro looked like he was getting above 50 percent of the vote
00:41:02.900 And then all of a sudden, just like we've seen, the numbers just completely shift.
00:41:07.200 And so a lot of people were questioning even why he didn't get over 50 percent that night.
00:41:11.120 There was also some weird thing about, you know, it is required for people to vote in Brazil.
00:41:15.920 It's a crime for you not to vote in Brazil.
00:41:18.160 There was a large number of people who didn't vote in Brazil.
00:41:21.980 Now, they have to pay fines or they can get in trouble.
00:41:24.580 So the question is, did they vote?
00:41:27.260 Because I would not vote if I was worried about going to jail unless I was going to vote for the other guy.
00:41:31.820 And I was worried to be put in jail if I did.
00:41:33.320 But there's some real questions about even this election, this first round, as they're calling it.
00:41:38.360 Because for our audience to know, they do it similar to, like, a primary.
00:41:42.120 There's a first round.
00:41:43.020 All the candidates are in it.
00:41:44.080 The highest two vote-getters, if nobody gets above 50%, goes to a runoff against the top two candidates.
00:41:49.240 And that's Bolsonaro and Lula here.
00:41:50.960 Now, October 25th is the election.
00:41:53.100 I have already, again, as I already mentioned, Lula trying to involve the courts.
00:41:56.580 You know, all the efforts are ready to sort of undermine even Flavio's ability to get elected, let alone the results in and of themselves.
00:42:05.360 I don't think Lula is going to go down quietly.
00:42:07.640 Communists tend not to.
00:42:09.700 And this is something we're going to have to watch very closely because the aftermath of this, like I said, has significant impacts.
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00:42:47.700 It will be a very turbulent few weeks if those predictions you just make are about to play out.
00:42:55.920 Final topic, the Russia plague.
00:42:59.320 We've had the Russia hoax.
00:43:00.700 Now we get the Russia plague, potentially a 28-year-old research scientist found dead.
00:43:07.080 Some concern over a potential shattered bottle or vial in an anti-plague lab.
00:43:15.240 Why do we have so many of these labs, David?
00:43:18.080 Don't tell me this lab is to serve me better.
00:43:22.620 Don't tell me this is for my freedom.
00:43:24.560 What is going on? And look, every every scientific review we've had of this suggests this is not a virus.
00:43:31.980 This is a bacteria. We have readily available drugs that we can get at all family pharmacy that will that will handle that for folks.
00:43:41.480 But are you hot under the collar for the Russia? I covered this today.
00:43:45.780 The first question I have is if you have a deadly disease, why would you put it in a fragile little test tube?
00:43:51.040 You'd think we'd strengthen these things. Why don't you use titanium? Use some other material that doesn't break. That's just a first tip. Let Anthony Fauci know. The other thing is, yes, it's a nothing burger. People actually get this plague in the United States. There's like five or six cases in rural parts of America. They treated the antibiotics. Everybody's just fine.
00:44:10.260 The bigger concern I have, and it's really not a concern, but Ebola is also spreading.
00:44:14.340 There's something like 4,000 deaths in parts of Africa.
00:44:17.980 Nobody has it in the United States, by the way.
00:44:19.700 But remember in 2014, right before the midterm elections, it was in October.
00:44:24.000 I think like five people got Ebola in the United States, and everybody started freaking out.
00:44:28.500 I just don't like these diseases spreading right before an election.
00:44:32.120 And maybe they're always spreading.
00:44:33.400 I just don't like how they try to make them a big deal before the election.
00:44:36.520 But we don't need any toilet paper.
00:44:38.660 Everything's going to be fine.
00:44:40.260 ebola terrifies me the notion that your organs liquefy and start emitting out of all of your
00:44:48.240 orifices is not the way i want to go but it's like a night at taco bell it's a night after
00:44:53.560 taco bell you're fine no first of all don't don't try to ruin taco bell for me like that okay i have
00:45:01.840 a sincere and well-rooted fear of ebola and i have a love for taco bell but i'm only willing
00:45:08.820 to admit when I know my wife is not watching. But I will say that the interface of these
00:45:16.300 crises and elections should certainly always draw our attention. David Pollack,
00:45:20.500 it has been a lovely chat with you. I encourage everyone to check out David Pollack primetime,
00:45:25.380 10 o'clock Eastern, 7 Pacific here on One America News. David talks to senators,
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00:46:05.400 Thanks, Matt.
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