The Auron MacIntyre Show - April 18, 2023


Budweiser Battle： What Victory Looks Like ｜ 4⧸18⧸23

Hosted by
Auron MacIntyre
Mentioned
Bud Light Joe Biden Madonna Rocky
Permanent Revolution and the Total State ｜ 4⧸14⧸23 The Power of Patronage ｜ 4⧸20⧸23

Episode Stats


Length

11 minutes

Words per minute

159.93

Word count

1,874

Sentence count

166

Harmful content

Misogyny

3

sentences flagged

Toxicity

22

sentences flagged

Hate speech

4

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Summary

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Orin and Rocky talk about Bud Light and their response to the recent mass shooting at a Christian school in Nashville, Tennessee, and how they should be held accountable for the response. Also, they talk about the fact that the White House and the media were quick to praise the shooter and the community to which he belonged.

Transcript

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00:00:29.780 Alright, so let's go ahead and talk about this. 1.00
00:00:40.160 I didn't want to talk about this because it's so stupid. 1.00
00:00:43.980 It's so incredibly dumb. 1.00
00:00:45.880 But apparently this is going to be the thing that we're going to talk about. 0.99
00:00:49.340 Six people, three children, were killed at a Christian school by transgenderists. 0.95
00:00:57.160 Another transgenderist shooter was planning a massacre, targeting both a middle school and churches.
00:01:06.040 The government, the White House, immediately jumped in and basically praised the shooter and the community to which the shooter belonged.
00:01:16.260 Talking about how fierce they were and how they were going to fight back.
00:01:20.440 The media immediately jumped in and said, oh, yeah, we support not the dead children.
00:01:26.940 Not the community in Nashville where they were shot, not the Christian community that was clearly targeted as a hate crime.
00:01:36.380 Not once, but apparently multiple times because there was another shooter who got caught. 0.50
00:01:41.500 And if they hadn't, there would have been a second massacre specifically targeting Christians by a transgender shooter. 0.93
00:01:48.760 But we're going to support, not the Christians, the transgenderists, okay? 1.00
00:01:54.760 And the only thing, the only thing that the right can hold accountable in all of this, it's not the White House, it's not Joe Biden's ridiculous speech about how transgender kids are shaping the soul of our nation. 0.90
00:02:12.040 It's not the insane rhetoric that came out of the White House spokesman.
00:02:18.680 It's not the insane way that the media was able to jump in and defend all of this stuff.
00:02:25.300 It's not Madonna going to Nashville and pledging a concert in Nashville to raise money for the LGBTQ community, not Christians who were just slaughtered.
00:02:35.300 But no, none of that's going to get held accountable.
00:02:38.480 What are we going to get held accountable?
00:02:39.980 Bud Light.
00:02:41.340 Why?
00:02:42.260 Why not?
00:02:43.200 Now, don't get me wrong.
00:02:44.100 Bud Light is gross, right?
00:02:46.420 I mean, it's not just gross as a beer. 0.72
00:02:48.160 It's gross what they did, right? 0.97
00:02:50.580 They plastered a transgenderist, pretending, you know, mugging, mocking femininity on the side of their cans. 0.95
00:03:00.680 You might say, Orin, why don't you have that person on the side, on your picture here?
00:03:06.360 Why do you have these rainbow cans?
00:03:08.640 Well, twofold.
00:03:09.300 One, I'm sick of looking at this stuff, okay?
00:03:12.680 I don't want to see this anymore.
00:03:14.840 I'm tired of it, okay? 0.97
00:03:16.980 This is ridiculous. 0.99
00:03:18.020 It's gross. 1.00
00:03:18.600 It's ugly.
00:03:19.500 I don't want it in front of my face at this point, okay?
00:03:23.060 But on top of that, we should remember this is not the first time that Bud Light has done this.
00:03:27.400 Now, obviously, the context here is a little different, but Bud Light has been woke for a long time, okay?
00:03:34.740 There's nothing new here.
00:03:36.460 There's nothing different.
00:03:37.500 It's just the intensity of it.
00:03:39.280 They were just willing to take it to the next level and push forward with it, even though children had just been killed in the name of this ideology,
00:03:48.320 even though the media and the White House were mocking dead children and their parents and the other staff members and volunteers and people who were killed at a school,
00:03:58.780 even though another school and multiple churches were about to be targeted by another transgender shooter.
00:04:05.880 Continue to push forward with this stuff, right?
00:04:08.220 And finally, I guess, conservatives decided to do something.
00:04:14.320 So, I guess, credit to the right for once, something happened, right? 0.99
00:04:19.340 Something stupid, probably the worst possible point of pushback, but something happened, right? 0.95
00:04:25.560 A corporation that ignored all of these travesties and all of this violence was in some way punished because Kid Rock and other celebrities pushed back, country music stars, people started not buying the beer, 0.99
00:04:39.680 they started advertising boycotts, and good, you know, good, don't buy this swell, don't buy this stuff from these people.
00:04:46.220 But, of course, Bud Light comes out, or Budweiser, whatever, and they put out some statement saying,
00:04:54.660 well, we're for everybody, we're everybody's beer, and conservatives start celebrating, this is a victory.
00:05:01.560 No, it's not. This is not a victory. This is even close to victory. This isn't even a very basic step forward, okay?
00:05:10.180 The statement put out by Budweiser had no apology in it. It had no recognition of why what they did was in bad taste.
00:05:20.280 It had no recognition of why them doubling down on wokeness in the wake of children murdered due to woke ideology and the hatred that it engenders.
00:05:31.020 They had no acknowledgement of any of that in their statement. Their statement was just, we're for everybody, we're everybody's beer.
00:05:36.440 Well, no, you're not. Like, you're very clearly motivated by wokeness.
00:05:42.600 We understand this. We understand that your leaders inside the company were pushing this agenda.
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00:06:04.680 And they're, oh, we're going to get back to this. We're going to get back to good old American values and beer.
00:06:10.700 Again, no, they're not, because they weren't before. And they're going to continue doing what they're doing anyway.
00:06:15.920 So their statement is a non-statement. It's a non-apology. And it's the kind of stuff that the right followers falls for all the time.
00:06:22.080 Oh, look, some company made a very, very, very, very, very slight head fake towards some type of contrition on an issue.
00:06:31.500 Guess we won. Pack it up. Go home. No, you didn't. You got nothing. Okay.
00:06:36.700 Not only because the statement is empty and doesn't even have an apology in it. 0.99
00:06:40.340 So you're just, you're just a goof. You're just, you're just a rube staring at this kind of statement and saying, oh, this is a victory for me. 0.99
00:06:48.360 No, it's a, it's a, it's an empty gesture that doesn't even apologize or acknowledge what was done wrong.
00:06:55.500 It's just a slight head fake to say, hey, we really need Red America to keep buying our beer. Right.
00:07:02.060 But even if it was, even if it was a statement of deep contrition, even if it did directly acknowledge that children were murdered and that they were murdered because of beliefs surrounding this ideology, this ideology that the beer company is now promoting.
00:07:18.460 Even if that was the case, even if they directly came out and say, we support the victims and their families, and we understand why it was such an horrific bad taste to go forward with this marketing campaign in the face of this tragedy.
00:07:31.440 Even if they did all that and said it explicitly, that's still not a victory because, because that's not what victory looks like.
00:07:37.980 Okay. The right needs to understand what victory looks like in a culture war scenario.
00:07:44.020 What does a victory look like? It's not a statement.
00:07:47.620 Statements are easy. Statements are cheap. They're hollow.
00:07:51.760 What does victory look like?
00:07:54.200 Victory looks like what the left gets.
00:07:56.360 Victory looks like your friends are hired and your enemies are fired.
00:08:02.100 Oh, you're, you can't tell a company to do that.
00:08:04.320 Yes, I can. Left does it all the time and they do it successfully and they win.
00:08:08.380 When the left wins on a cultural issue, when they force a company to heal, all the people who disagree with them get fired from that company and all of their friends get hired.
00:08:17.620 Because the left understands patronage. They understand benefiting.
00:08:23.000 They understand that activists don't work for free.
00:08:26.040 They understand that if you want people to know you mean business, then things change when you win.
00:08:32.700 It's not an empty piece of paper somewhere.
00:08:34.660 It's not some statement on a website that disappears and vanishes a moment later and everything goes right back to the way it was.
00:08:40.900 Meaningful change happens.
00:08:42.860 And you're not going to get meaningful social change out of Budweiser.
00:08:45.820 But if you're going to fight this fight, if this is the one we're going to go for, if this is the one that you're going to win, then do something meaningful.
00:08:54.480 Your enemies get fired.
00:08:57.060 Your friends get hired.
00:08:59.080 Money gets donated to your patronage network.
00:09:01.660 What does that mean?
00:09:02.440 That means scholarships are founded in the name of the families who are targeted by this.
00:09:09.100 Or it means that relief funds are set up for them.
00:09:13.420 It means that money is donated to the school that was targeted.
00:09:17.320 It means that people who were attacked are taken care of in the way they should have been taken care of in the first place instead of having fundraisers for the community that is putting out this ideology in the first place.
00:09:34.380 Friends, friends, hired, enemies, fired, money in the patronage network.
00:09:39.600 And then what corporations do?
00:09:40.980 They put people through re-education because that's what corporations do. 1.00
00:09:45.120 If you're in a corporation, you know that's true right now because you have to undergo re-education all the time.
00:09:50.780 You have to sit down for all these HR seminars where you learn about the evils of racism and your whiteness and sexual harassment and not using the right pronouns and all of this stuff.
00:10:01.600 Why do you do that?
00:10:02.560 Because those groups have successfully sued your company.
00:10:06.860 That's why.
00:10:07.980 Because they've successfully destroyed your company in public.
00:10:11.860 That's why.
00:10:13.320 Why do you have to sit through that re-education?
00:10:16.060 Because the groups that are wielding power forced the company to bend the knee.
00:10:22.840 That's what victory looks like.
00:10:25.060 Victory is so total that the company is forced to teach your ideology to its employees to make sure they never cross you again.
00:10:36.620 That's what victory looks like. 1.00
00:10:38.720 Bud Light is a stupid target. 1.00
00:10:40.840 It is the most ridiculous thing to come out of everything that has happened. 1.00
00:10:44.400 And I think it probably distracts everyone from the true tragedy, the true victims, and the true danger of what's happening right now.
00:10:52.140 But if you're going to fight this fight, at least know what victory looks like.
00:10:56.420 Victory looks like what the left gets.
00:10:59.880 Victory looks like your friends are hired, your enemies are fired, money goes to your patronage network, and the corporation makes sure that none of their employees ever, ever, ever crosses the line with your group again.
00:11:12.740 How do we make that happen?
00:11:14.720 That's a lot harder.
00:11:16.100 That takes a lot more than the right has right now.
00:11:19.060 It takes a sustained will.
00:11:20.720 It takes an activist class.
00:11:22.420 It takes the willingness to get out there with lawsuits and all kinds of other things that the right is just simply not equipped to do at the moment.
00:11:30.160 So maybe you don't have the infrastructure to take it to that level with Budweiser right now.
00:11:36.160 But you absolutely need to build it.
00:11:38.840 If you want victories, this is what it looks like.
00:11:41.960 Make it happen.