The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 07, 2026


It's Not Mental Illness, They Just Want You Dead ｜ 5⧸7⧸26

Vivek Ramaswamy Can't Conserve America ｜ Guest： Michael Clary ｜ 5⧸4⧸26 America Is Built on Abortion ｜ 5⧸8⧸26

Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

158.35

Word count

1,509

Sentence count

84

Harmful content

Toxicity

7

sentences flagged

Hate speech

3

sentences flagged


Summary

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In our modern world, it s very common to conflate motives we don t understand with some form of mental illness. This is understandable when it comes to horrific crime. Someone like a serial killer is so violent and twisted that it s hard for us to comprehend their actions. And there s certainly a fair amount of mental illness that plays a factor. But today, people often use this explanation when they come to political disagreements. Abortion, hatred for Christians and white people, the mutilation of children to turn them into girls... these beliefs are so horrible that they can only possibly be explained by a malfunctioning brain.

Transcript

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00:00:30.180 In our modern world, it's very common to conflate motives we don't understand with some form of mental illness.
00:00:37.420 This is understandable when it comes to horrific crime.
00:00:40.400 Someone like a serial killer is so violent and twisted that it's hard for us to comprehend their actions.
00:00:46.080 And there's certainly a fair amount of mental illness that plays a factor.
00:00:49.660 But today, people often use this explanation when it comes to political disagreements. 0.82
00:00:54.700 Abortion, hatred for Christians and white people,
00:00:57.900 the mutilation of children to turn boys into girls, 1.00
00:01:01.500 these beliefs are so horrible that they can only possibly be explained by a malfunctioning brain.
00:01:07.900 Of course, that's not the only explanation.
00:01:10.180 The other option is that some people have a very different set of values
00:01:14.600 that drive them to pursue goals that we view as evil.
00:01:18.940 The average American would like to avoid this truth because it comes with an unnerving conclusion.
00:01:24.340 Your political enemies aren't crazy, they're sane people who hate you and want to hurt you.
00:01:31.780 As very sophisticated and modern people, we tend to avoid language that implies some form of objective metaphysical truth.
00:01:39.860 Evil is a concept that conjures up images of old churches, judgmental Sunday school teachers, and medieval peasants trying to explain a drought.
00:01:48.620 We're sophisticated and scientific people who have the technology and understanding
00:01:53.080 to explain everything in the world that we see.
00:01:56.380 Explanations that call for unseen forces or divine intervention are no longer required.
00:02:02.020 In this thoroughly materialistic view, humans are simply animals with more sophisticated brains
00:02:08.200 and any undesirable behavior can be understood as a malfunction of that brain.
00:02:13.720 There's no evil. There's only mental illness.
00:02:17.320 Modern Americans are also universalists in a very strange sense.
00:02:22.320 We assume that our values, beliefs, and customs are the default for all humans everywhere.
00:02:28.520 Americans believe that all of our assumptions about the way life ought to be lived
00:02:33.340 are arrived at through individual human rationality.
00:02:36.700 So if another person has a functioning brain, they'll of course come to the same conclusions.
00:02:43.180 When we're confronted with someone who has a very different understanding or different goals,
00:02:48.960 then it's assumed that something has happened to their faculty of reason.
00:02:53.800 First, we try to argue in hopes that rational debate will help them see the error of their ways.
00:03:00.560 If debate doesn't work, we begin introducing therapeutic language,
00:03:04.320 diagnosing dissenting individuals with all kinds of pathologies
00:03:08.300 which will explain why they don't see the world the way we do.
00:03:11.640 Re-education is a popular tactic, assigning some kind of procedural rehabilitation with defined steps that will help the defective individual rewire his brain.
00:03:22.020 The explanation for divergent morals or goals is always a defective mental process, never a genuine difference in how we view the world.
00:03:31.840 The obsession with material explanations accounts for half of this phenomenon, but the other half is explained by our desperate need to avoid real conflict.
00:03:41.640 One of the major selling points of liberalism was that it reduced the need for violent conflict while removing existential questions from the political arena.
00:03:50.960 Who's right about God? What is the ultimate good? To what end should we orient our society?
00:03:56.360 These are all important but very dangerous questions. The answers are exclusive and all-encompassing.
00:04:02.960 These are things that people are willing to kill and die for.
00:04:06.280 So better to make them off-limits and focus on something everyone can agree on, making more money and increasing the standard of living.
00:04:13.920 The desire to end the terrible wars that were fought over religion or identity, that's entirely understandable.
00:04:20.800 And it's difficult to argue that the focus on economic cooperation didn't produce significant benefits, but this is always a trade-off that couldn't last.
00:04:29.720 We may like to pretend that we're too advanced and sophisticated to get hung up on all these primitive concerns,
00:04:35.560 but under the surface they continue to define us.
00:04:39.000 A society that abandons discussion of good and evil for economic benefit
00:04:42.640 may gain a temporary advantage,
00:04:45.060 but they're confounding their ability to grapple with those issues.
00:04:48.620 Those conflicts don't disappear,
00:04:50.540 and when they re-emerge, you've stripped your civilization
00:04:52.980 of the tools needed to identify and address them,
00:04:56.440 which is exactly why we're seeing what we're seeing now.
00:05:00.140 Americans no longer have the moral language to discuss good and evil,
00:05:04.180 right and wrong. 0.68
00:05:05.140 So they simply apply a clinical diagnosis to their opponents instead.
00:05:10.000 Believing a radical leftist is mentally ill is far easier than addressing the alternative. 0.99
00:05:15.700 If the progressive is a perfectly sane person and still wants to take your child from you if you don't chop off their genitals, 0.99
00:05:22.460 then the calculus for what must be done changes radically. 0.93
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00:05:57.720 Differences of opinion can be navigated as long as two parties share the same moral
00:06:02.780 assumptions and the same goals.
00:06:05.140 Rational discussion can be used to persuade one side or the other of the correct course if they're both heading the same direction.
00:06:12.340 But if there's a fundamental difference in what is considered good or bad, if two groups seek radically opposed outcomes,
00:06:19.420 then no amount of rational debate will ever resolve the core issue.
00:06:23.780 All rational discussion is based on some kind of fundamental axiom, something that is not up for debate, that can't change, that's assumed.
00:06:31.720 If one side is assuming that it is good and right to mutilate children, that anyone who won't mutilate a child who thinks that they're in the wrong body, that person should lose custody of their child or should go to prison.
00:06:46.000 They can't coexist with somebody who believes actually mutilating children is wrong.
00:06:51.360 And if you try to do that, even with the justification of trying to fix something about their mental state, then you need to go to jail.
00:06:58.440 These are fundamentally opposed views.
00:07:00.600 There's no arguing past them, and they can't exist inside the same system.
00:07:05.220 One of them is going to win.
00:07:07.100 One of them is going to lose.
00:07:08.780 They cannot coexist.
00:07:11.360 If our differences aren't based on mental illness, but fundamental beliefs about right and wrong,
00:07:17.140 then a disturbing conclusion emerges.
00:07:19.640 When rational debate is no longer an option,
00:07:22.440 then the only solution left is the same one our unsophisticated ancestors came up with centuries ago.
00:07:29.080 One group must win and the other must lose.
00:07:32.620 In the best scenario, this means an exercise of power from the winning side that allows it to rule over the other,
00:07:38.740 forcing its way of life upon the defeated foe.
00:07:41.820 In the worst case scenario, this means violence and war until one side is no longer willing to fight to defend their way of life.
00:07:49.360 In either case, this is a return to an existential understanding of politics.
00:07:54.000 The stakes are no longer higher taxes or lower taxes, but survival. 0.56
00:07:59.780 Now, it should be said that mental illness is real and can be a factor in some political trends, 0.89
00:08:05.320 but the idea that half of America is crazy because they don't share your political views is obviously absurd. 0.98
00:08:11.800 The truth is much darker.
00:08:13.640 We're at least two societies with mutually exclusive understandings of morality and purpose, trapped in one country.
00:08:20.600 The theoretical neutrality of the liberal system allowed this drift to occur under the surface, but the differences have become too extreme to ignore.
00:08:30.160 Both sides have their own internally consistent understanding of the world, but they're entirely incompatible with each other.
00:08:37.880 Again, one side is going to win, and one side is going to lose, and the winning side is going to impose its way of life on the other. 0.54
00:08:45.280 There is no way to avoid this reality and obscuring the truth with comforting fictions about mental illness only ensures that you'll be on the side that loses.
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