The Auron MacIntyre Show - August 07, 2025


It's Time to Talk About Paperwork Americans | 8⧸7⧸25


Episode Stats

Length

7 minutes

Words per Minute

150.56396

Word Count

1,148

Sentence Count

82

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

Rep. Delia Ramirez was born to an illegal immigrant mother who crossed the U.S. border while pregnant and secured birthright citizenship for her daughter. Rep. Ramirez, who sits on the House Homeland Security Committee, helps to shape policies vital to the nation s safety, yet she openly and proudly identifies with another country and in a foreign language.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 At a recent Pan-American Congress in Mexico City, Representative Delia Ramirez of Illinois
00:00:06.740 stood before attendees and declared in Spanish, I'm a proud Guatemalan before I'm an American.
00:00:13.580 Ramirez, who sits on the House Homeland Security Committee, helps to shape policies vital to the
00:00:18.580 nation's safety, yet she openly and proudly identifies with another country, and in a foreign
00:00:24.480 language, no less. Ramirez is far from alone. She's part of a growing class of politicians who treat
00:00:31.440 their American citizenship as a formality. Many are first-generation immigrants, but Ramirez isn't
00:00:37.460 even that. She was born to an illegal immigrant mother who crossed the border while pregnant
00:00:42.420 and secured birthright citizenship for her daughter. On paper, Ramirez is American. In every other way,
00:00:48.480 she's not. The immigration debate has forced Americans to confront the deeper question of
00:00:54.700 national identity. Nearly everyone agrees the southern border should be closed to illegal aliens.
00:01:00.780 But views on legal immigration vary widely, and those differences often rest on whether people
00:01:06.440 believe the United States is a quote-unquote propositional nation. The idea holds that America
00:01:12.980 is defined not by shared heritage or culture, but by a set of abstract principles. According to this
00:01:19.640 view, anyone who completes the paperwork and swears an oath is just as American as someone whose ancestors
00:01:25.700 fought in the Revolutionary War. The problem is, no one is ever denaturalized and deported for rejecting
00:01:33.300 the proposition. New citizens can, and often do, criticize or outright deny basic American values.
00:01:40.800 They can declare loyalty to foreign governments while holding office in the United States. And
00:01:46.900 because citizenship confers to First Amendment protections, they face no consequences for doing
00:01:52.300 so. This turns the entire idea of a propositional nation into a joke. Ramirez herself is not an
00:01:59.120 immigrant. She was born under the current understanding of the 14th Amendment. Her mother, in violation of
00:02:05.120 U.S. law, crossed the border while pregnant. No agreement to any American proposition was required.
00:02:12.420 Ramirez acquired the legal status of an American and the constitutional right to reject the nation
00:02:18.240 that gave it to her. There is no ideological connection, cultural tie, or apparent love of the country.
00:02:25.140 Only the paperwork remains. Now, immigration skeptics have long warned that newcomers often bring with
00:02:31.800 them foreign loyalties. Critics dismiss such concerns as racist, even when examples pile up.
00:02:38.420 Today, those examples speak for themselves. Representative Ilhan Omar of Minnesota has described
00:02:44.360 Somalia as her real homeland and addressed Somalian crowds in their native language, pledging to fight
00:02:50.500 for their interests. Omar Fatah, or however you're supposed to say it, likely the next mayor of
00:02:56.280 Minneapolis speaks the same way. These are not the words of people who are assimilating. These are
00:03:01.760 declarations of divided loyalty. So you said this would be the summer of you. But then you remembered you
00:03:08.500 have kids and now you spend every sunny day at water parks and petting zoos. So be it. We do the prep so you
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00:03:19.620 During the Los Angeles anti-ice riots in June, protesters waved Mexican flags, burned cars,
00:03:28.420 and attacked police. Many were illegal immigrants, but many others were citizens, some born in the
00:03:33.820 United States who were openly calling for the reconquest of California in the name of Mexico.
00:03:40.600 President Claudia Schimbom of Mexico even claimed the rioters as her own, describing them as fellow
00:03:46.740 Mexicans and calling on them to pressure the U.S. government to change laws that affected Mexico's
00:03:52.260 economy. The president of Mexico sees through the paperwork. She knows who her people really are.
00:03:58.940 But Americans, for some reason, continue to pretend that the paperwork alone tells the whole story.
00:04:05.060 And after all of this controversy, after all of this blowback for her remarks, Representative Ramirez,
00:04:11.080 she didn't apologize. She didn't back down. She doubled down. She said anybody who pointed out the
00:04:17.560 obvious fact that she was declaring her loyalty to a foreign country, anybody who noticed that fact,
00:04:23.440 they must be racist, white supremacists, of course, and nativists. Well, yeah, actually, I am a
00:04:30.220 nativist. I think that America should belong to Americans. I don't think people who are declaring
00:04:35.180 their allegiance to foreign countries who only have citizenship because their parents broke the law
00:04:40.980 and are now obviously totally disrespectful and disgraceful and disgusting in the way they
00:04:47.160 approach my country. I don't think that they should be in charge of my country. So yes, I am a nativist.
00:04:53.560 I think it makes sense when the people of the United States are taken care of by people of the United
00:04:58.600 States who care about the people of the United States, not Guatemala, people who don't go to foreign
00:05:04.760 countries and declare their allegiance to them and then come back and call the people of this country
00:05:09.960 racist and nativist white supremacists. Whatever. Get deported. Get out of here.
00:05:16.260 Look, the debate over American identity will continue for a long time to come, but the modern
00:05:22.020 definition clearly isn't working and something new will be required and that means having a tough
00:05:28.320 conversation. If we can't candidly discuss who belongs in this nation and why, we'll never resolve
00:05:36.040 the issue. And this goes doubly for the right who's terrified of being called a racist or a xenophobe or
00:05:42.600 a nativist, any of this garbage. In the meantime, we should at least agree on one thing. No one who
00:05:50.520 openly declares loyalty to another country should hold public office in the United States. The idea that
00:05:57.820 a sitting congresswoman can say that she belongs to Guatemala before she belongs to America and face
00:06:04.580 no consequences is absolutely insane. A nation that tolerates this cannot endure. A nation that
00:06:12.760 refuses to expel such people, not just from office, but from its borders is already dying. We treat this
00:06:20.620 behavior as acceptable. In reality, it's a form of treason. Paperwork alone does not make someone an
00:06:27.540 American. The people exploiting our system understand this. They aren't confused. They're mocking us.
00:06:34.580 Unless we find a courage to act, they're going to keep doing it. So send them back every last one.
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