The Ben Shapiro Show - July 24, 2026


Candace Owens Just Got Played


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Length

9 minutes

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180.0

Word count

1,623

Sentence count

136

Harmful content

Misogyny

7

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Toxicity

13

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Hate speech

5

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Candace Owens has a new theory about the murder of Charlie Kirk, and it involves a man named Gary Javits, and a woman named Candace Ochs, who she claims was with him on the day Charlie was murdered.

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00:00:00.000 Folks, I genuinely can't believe this is what my life has now come to.
00:00:03.000 After debunking Tucker's Russian novel on X about me, I am now here admiring Candace Owens' unique ability to peddle silliness like it's some secret revelation about the universe. 0.55
00:00:13.000 Remember, if you're not spotting the op, you're the mark. 0.60
00:00:16.000 Well, here we go.
00:00:17.000 I'm getting very concerned about waste and fraud and abuse in this country.
00:00:20.000 Very, very concerned.
00:00:21.000 I'm particularly concerned about Candace Owens, who it appears was scammed out of $10,000.
00:00:26.000 So, for those who missed it, Candace Owens has a newfound theory.
00:00:31.000 Everyone was involved in Charlie Cook's murder except for Charlie Cook's actual murder.
00:00:35.000 And lately, she's been trying to wrap me into that.
00:00:37.000 It was I.
00:00:38.000 It was I. Apparently, it was me.
00:00:41.000 Because again, my phenomenal godlike powers not only extend to American foreign policy, but also to the murder of Charlie Kirk, according to Candace Owens.
00:00:48.000 Okay, so she has a theory.
00:00:51.000 The theory is I met with someone very nefarious for lunch the day that Charlie died.
00:00:55.000 She says this because I said on the podcast talking about Charlie's death that I was at lunch or breakfast, it's actually, I believe, a late breakfast, when I found out that Charlie had been shot.
00:01:07.000 This is the way breakfast goes on the West Coast.
00:01:12.000 And so she has put out a $10,000 bounty, I kid you not, for someone who can tell her with whom I was breakfasting or lunching.
00:01:21.000 Well, yesterday she revealed with whom I was lunching, or apparently she thought she did.
00:01:28.000 Here's what she had to say I can't believe this is our world.
00:01:31.000 I can't believe this is the universe that we now inhabit, that we have to analyze the musings of a person who obviously is unhinged.
00:01:39.000 Actually, many people who are obviously unhinged.
00:01:41.000 This is what we have been reduced to here in the United States of America in the year 2026.
00:01:46.000 Here is Candace Owens.
00:01:48.000 But the person that Ben was with has allegedly told various other people that he was with Ben when Charlie Kirk was shot.
00:01:55.000 Now, we were not able to confirm that they were at breakfast or lunch.
00:02:00.000 Only what came to us was that they were together.
00:02:04.000 And that person is a man named Gary Javitsch.
00:02:09.000 Ben was allegedly with Gary Javitsch.
00:02:11.000 And as of yet, unidentified woman when Charlie Kirk was shot.
00:02:15.000 Now, we have a strong guess as to who that woman could be, but we'd rather not venture a guess unnecessarily.
00:02:20.000 So, Gary Javich is not a person that you have likely ever heard of unless you are Jewish and involved in the community, but he is certainly very well known, actually, very powerful.
00:02:30.000 And we weighed his identification, this identification, as likely, determined it was probably likely given the reason that Ben was in Los Angeles on that September day.
00:02:46.000 Who?
00:02:49.000 What? 1.00
00:02:50.000 Who's a lady? 1.00
00:02:52.000 What? 1.00
00:02:53.000 What now?
00:02:54.000 So, if this was Gary Javits, who, Javits?
00:02:58.000 Javits?
00:03:01.000 Who, what?
00:03:05.000 If it was Gary Javits who called this in to pick up a $10,000 reward from Candace Owens, then Candace, I'm sorry to inform you, you have been scammed.
00:03:12.000 In fact, every time Candace issues a guess, As to who I was lunching with and is wrong.
00:03:18.000 I'm going to donate 10 grand toward the education of Charlie Kirk's children.
00:03:21.000 So now I, oh, go send me 10 grand. 0.99
00:03:23.000 I have a feeling by the end of this, she's going to impoverish me.
00:03:26.000 Um, Gary Javits.
00:03:30.000 Um, okay.
00:03:31.000 So I don't know who that is.
00:03:33.000 Like at all.
00:03:37.000 I meet a lot of people, a lot, a lot of people.
00:03:39.000 I can guarantee you that Gary Javits is, it's not the person. 1.00
00:03:46.000 I'm going to play a guessing game with Candace now because this is so stupid. 1.00
00:03:49.000 I can't believe how stupid my life has become now. 1.00
00:03:52.000 This is where we are. 1.00
00:03:53.000 This loon bag is going around speculating that randos are people that I had breakfast with on the day that Charlie was shot.
00:04:00.000 This is where we are in life now.
00:04:02.000 This is where we are.
00:04:05.000 To the tune of lots of listeners. 1.00
00:04:06.000 People like this crap, apparently. 1.00
00:04:08.000 Okay, man. 1.00
00:04:10.000 All right.
00:04:11.000 So you're wrong.
00:04:12.000 It was not Gary Javitsch.
00:04:13.000 Guess again.
00:04:15.000 Don't know Gary Javitsch from Adam.
00:04:18.000 I've never heard of Gary Javitsch.
00:04:20.000 If I met him in passing, because again, I can't testify as to every single human I've ever met.
00:04:25.000 Possible.
00:04:26.000 Don't know him.
00:04:28.000 Never breakfasted with him.
00:04:29.000 Don't know.
00:04:30.000 But again, this is the kind of genius level material that you are getting when you listen to Candace's show.
00:04:36.000 Genius level stuff.
00:04:37.000 You are getting her speculation as to with whom I breakfasted.
00:04:40.000 Where did I eat?
00:04:41.000 I want to know where did I eat and what did I eat?
00:04:44.000 And was it good for me or not?
00:04:46.000 What was I wearing?
00:04:48.000 Were my shoes purple?
00:04:53.000 Like, what are we even talking?
00:04:54.000 Maroon?
00:04:55.000 Was I wearing the maroon shoes, Candace? 1.00
00:04:58.000 This is where we are, and people are so unbelievably stupid to take this person seriously. 0.97
00:05:04.000 But what I'm really worried about, honestly, is that Candace feels like she's extraordinarily vulnerable to all sorts of criminal behavior and people scamming her out of $10,000. 0.95
00:05:12.000 So, Candace, please, before you pay a rando $10,000, you should probably confirm what they're saying is true, or you need to sign up with like home title lock or something.
00:05:22.000 Because I feel like Candace is making herself extraordinarily vulnerable to these sorts of scams.
00:05:28.000 We'll get to more on this in a moment.
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00:05:32.000 A database gets leaked, some app you signed up once, years ago for, to get a free coupon.
00:05:36.000 Apparently, it still had your email and password sitting in a spreadsheet somewhere unprotected.
00:05:39.000 You find about it the same way everybody else does.
00:05:42.000 Some notification tells you to change your password immediately, like that fixes the fact that it was already out there.
00:05:47.000 This happens all the time.
00:05:48.000 And it turns out you use that password for like eight different websites.
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00:06:30.000 So here's the thing about Candace. 1.00
00:06:32.000 I mean, Candace is just, I mean, she's so desperate for attention, so desperate for attention. 0.93
00:06:36.000 And most of what she does is projection.
00:06:38.000 It's really astonishing how much projection she does.
00:06:40.000 Here, for example, is Candace Owens talking about Erica Kirk.
00:06:43.000 If you substitute the name Candace Owens for Erica Kirk in this clip of Candace about Erica, it all makes sense.
00:06:50.000 I've been on a wild pursuit of fame and fortune your entire life.
00:06:55.000 You started doing pageants, I think we showed when you were like 12, okay?
00:06:59.000 Sixth grade, maybe.
00:07:01.000 And you have not stopped wanting to be in the spotlight.
00:07:03.000 Every person you have dated has had some degree of fame, and you saw Charlie as your ticket to more fame.
00:07:11.000 And then you finally got it in your view.
00:07:14.000 When you walked out in a white pantsuit with sparklers behind you and you sucked all of that in, that was it.
00:07:20.000 That was the moment.
00:07:21.000 We look back at those photos of people at the memorial.
00:07:24.000 I have never seen such glee and such happiness.
00:07:29.000 You clinked glasses, you guys then went to a restaurant, you celebrated.
00:07:33.000 Finally, Erica, finally for you, after decades of trying, you had made it into the spotlight and everybody loved you.
00:07:43.000 Brand, merchandising, shirts, you got on that Zoom call.
00:07:47.000 The sales have been crazy.
00:07:48.000 50,000 shirts sold and kicked back into the LLC that me and the Charlie Kirk show people own for Charlie.
00:07:59.000 For Charlie.
00:08:01.000 And then it all came crashing down because maybe Charlie had an actual friend.
00:08:08.000 That's what's annoying.
00:08:10.000 Me, I'm the renegade.
00:08:11.000 I'm the one thing.
00:08:13.000 He had an actual friend who wasn't content to sell a t shirt and move on.
00:08:18.000 And then sell some Fed slop and move on because the price was right.
00:08:22.000 That's what you're upset about, Erica.
00:08:24.000 Money and fame.
00:08:25.000 There is no substance in this article because there is no substance in you.
00:08:30.000 And that's my opinion.
00:08:32.000 Not a call for you to get hurt, but me demonstrating that you have a character flaw that you are not even aware of. 0.79
00:08:39.000 She is the worst person. 0.89
00:08:41.000 I mean, truly the worst person. 1.00
00:08:42.000 Every single word she says about that is true of Gannon's Owens.
00:08:44.000 Every single word.
00:08:47.000 Again, these are people who definitely need a GoFundMe just to buy a mirror.
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