The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 286 - Trump The Conqueror

Ben Shapiro explains why the Statue of a 'Fearless girl' statue in New York City stands in defiance of the even more famous statue of a Wall Street bull. He also explains why Bill de Blasio is a certifiable moron and why he should be worried that the statue will be taken down by the Wall Street Bull. And he answers the question, why Trump is doing what he's doing and why it's so bad. Plus, Ben answers a listener question and answers a question from a listener at the end of the mailbag. Subscribe to The Ben Shapiro Show on Apple Podcasts and leave us your thoughts and reactions in the comments section below. Use the promo code SHAPIRO to receive 20% off your first order at Mac&Wenldon.co.nz/TheBenShapiroShow and why you need to subscribe to the show to get 20% of the first order you get when you subscribe. Thanks for listening and share the show with your friends! You can also join our FB group and use the hashtag to help spread the word about the show! and ask any questions you have about it! Thanks to our sponsors, too! Ben Shapiro and The Daily Wire . Subscribe, rate, review, and subscribe to our new podcast, and rate/subscribe to our newest podcast, The Ben Show! The Ben's Note: Rate, review and review the show is now on all of the social medias including Craigslist, iTunes, Podcharts, Instapaper, Podcoin, and The Huffington Post, and we'll be giving you a chance to win a FREE shipping discount on our next big box set! Thank you for supporting The Daily Show, and so much more! Subscribe and review our new ad-free version of the Daily Show on your first episode of The Daily Mail, The Weekly Mailbag! in May 2020, coming soon! Learn more about the latest edition of The Weekly Shakes Podcasts, The Daily Shakes podcast, featuring the latest in Uncensored Podcasts & The Daily Scoop, featuring Ben Shapiro's latest podcast, Ben's Secret Service, The Shakes and The Weekly Bumpers, The Realest Podcast, featuring The Daily Bump Podcasts? will be out on The Daily Remarks, The Fadi Al-says it's the most authentic and the Realest, The Most Authentically Unfiltered, Realest of It All!

00:00:00.000 On Thursday afternoon, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, who is a certifiable moron, tweeted about the wonders of the left's favorite new New York icon, the bronze statue of a fearless girl who stands in defiance of the even more famous statue of a Wall Street bull. 0.93

00:00:12.000 De Blasio tweeted, quote, unlike the charging bull, which has become a symbol of Wall Street, fearless girl is a beacon for the fight against injustice. 0.94

00:00:22.000 Here are a few things you need to know.

00:00:23.000 One, the Fearless Girl statue is funded by a hedge fund.

00:00:27.000 State Street Global Advisors is behind the sculpture.

00:00:30.000 State Street Global Advisors manages 2.5 trillion dollars in assets. 1.00

00:00:33.000 The notion that it funded a statue to rail against capitalism is idiotic. 0.96

00:00:37.000 State Street isn't just representative of Wall Street, it invests in Wall Street on the most general level by putting all money into funds that track the performance of the indices. 0.98

00:00:45.000 As Wall Street goes, so too does Fearless Girl.

00:00:48.000 Two, the hedge fund has few female executives. 0.98

00:00:50.000 State Street Global Advisors has 28 high-level executives, according to the New York Daily News.

00:00:54.000 Five are female, total.

00:00:56.000 Three, employment in New York relies heavily on Wall Street.

00:01:00.000 According to the New York Federal Reserve, the financial services sector represented 35% of all paid income in the city of New York as of 2000, and more than 1 in 10 people employed in New York City were employed on Wall Street. 0.88

00:01:10.000 The fearless girl statue is a bit of stupid virtue signaling by a firm looking for some good publicity. 1.00

00:01:15.000 de Blasio has embraced it because he is a stupid man. 1.00

00:01:17.000 But here is what de Blasio should understand. 1.00

00:01:19.000 If the bull actually walks away from New York and the fearless girl remains, the bull is going to be like all the jobs. 0.87

00:01:24.000 It'll just be gone in the distance.

00:01:26.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:01:27.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:01:32.000 I don't

00:01:47.000 I have a theory.

00:01:47.000 I'm developing a theory of what exactly Trump is doing in foreign policy, which is good because no one really has a theory as to what is going on there.

00:01:54.000 There are multiple working theories, but we will discuss them.

00:01:56.000 I think it's a theory that will make no one happy and yet everyone happy, just like most of the things that I say.

00:02:01.000 But we'll get to that in just a second.

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00:03:15.000 Okay, well we have a lot coming up on the show today.

00:03:17.000 We have the mailbag that's coming up at the end of the show, which is why you need to subscribe.

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00:03:22.000 But don't worry, I'll make that pitch later.

00:03:24.000 Also, we are going to be having

00:03:26.000 We are going to be having a guest on.

00:03:28.000 His name is Fadi Alkadi.

00:03:29.000 He is a Middle East and Northern Africa human rights advocate.

00:03:33.000 And I want to talk to him because he thinks that the United States has an obligation to take in Syrian refugees if we're going to bomb Assad.

00:03:40.000 And I would like to have that discussion with him.

00:03:42.000 So I look forward to that.

00:03:44.000 But we begin today with the big news.

00:03:46.000 There are two pieces of big military news.

00:03:48.000 Big piece of military news number one is that Trump is now threatening North Korea.

00:03:52.000 It's unclear what the threat actually is.

00:03:53.000 We moved a U.S.

00:03:54.000 naval carrier and aircraft carrier into the waters off North Korea and there's been rumors that we are going to preemptively hit them if they were going to drop some sort of nuclear test.

00:04:04.000 That

00:04:04.000 Seems to me a wild rumor the Trump administration is basically denied it because that could precipitate World War III.

00:04:09.000 What folks need to understand about North Korea is that North Korea has like 20,000 missiles that are aimed, 20,000 rockets that are aimed directly at Seoul in South Korea and there are 10 million people who live in Seoul.

00:04:21.000 So if something should go wrong in North Korea, then Seoul is immediately under severe attack and probably hundreds of thousands of people die.

00:04:28.000 So it's very important that we handle this whole thing very carefully.

00:04:31.000 The other sort of response has been that the United States is going to take some sort of retaliatory strike against the North Koreans if they should test a nuclear weapon.

00:04:40.000 I don't

00:05:02.000 Going to work very much longer because people understand he wants to stay in power.

00:05:05.000 He's not going to launch a preemptive war on the United States that finishes him completely. 0.98

00:05:09.000 That would be a foolish move in the extreme and he's foolish but he's rational. 1.00

00:05:13.000 He's foolish but rational. 0.99

00:05:14.000 The Chinese are now applying pressure to North Korea. 0.98

00:05:16.000 They're saying that they're going to cut off a lot of their oil exports to North Korea.

00:05:20.000 If North Korea tries to test a nuclear bomb.

00:05:24.000 So good on the Trump administration for pushing on that.

00:05:26.000 The other piece of big news yesterday was that the U.S.

00:05:29.000 military in Afghanistan dropped what is known as the mother of all bombs.

00:05:32.000 First of all, I think that all bombs should have nicknames.

00:05:34.000 And so I think this is awesome.

00:05:36.000 It's called the Mother of All Bombs.

00:05:37.000 Apparently Russia has something they like to call the Father of All Bombs.

00:05:40.000 So if you ever got them together, they'd make lots of little bombs.

00:05:42.000 It'd be really cute.

00:05:43.000 But the Mother of All Bombs is apparently a massive, massive piece of ordnance.

00:05:49.000 It's like 11 tons of TNT.

00:05:51.000 It has a blast radius of up to a mile.

00:05:54.000 And so we dropped it in the middle of nowhere, Afghanistan.

00:05:57.000 And we killed 36 ISIS fighters.

00:05:59.000 We took out a bunch of their tunnel systems.

00:06:01.000 We took out a bunch of their

00:06:03.000 All of that is good.

00:06:04.000 And here is Donald Trump praising the use of Moab.

00:06:33.000 Uh, everybody knows exactly what happened.

00:06:35.000 So, and what I do is I authorize my military.

00:06:38.000 We have the greatest military in the world and they've done a job as usual.

00:06:42.000 So we have given them total authorization and that's what they're doing.

00:06:46.000 And frankly, that's why they've been so successful lately.

00:06:50.000 If you look at what's happened over the last eight weeks and compare that really to what's happened over the last eight years, you'll see there's a tremendous difference.

00:06:59.000 Tremendous difference.

00:06:59.000 So, we have incredible leaders in the military, and we have incredible military, and we are very proud of them.

00:07:07.000 And this was another very, very successful mission.

00:07:09.000 So this is good Trump.

00:07:11.000 When Trump says this sort of stuff, it makes people in the military feel good.

00:07:14.000 It heightens morale.

00:07:16.000 This actually was in the works since the Obama administration.

00:07:18.000 So for months, they've been considering whether to use the Moab.

00:07:21.000 Every time I think of Moab, I also think of Ammon and the Jebusites and all the other biblical tribes.

00:07:26.000 The use of the Moab was not something that Trump initiated.

00:07:29.000 It was something where the Defense Department came to him and they said, can we use this thing?

00:07:32.000 Are you okay with that?

00:07:33.000 We'd like to.

00:07:34.000 And he said, sure, go for it.

00:07:35.000 And that's the difference between Trump and Obama.

00:07:37.000 You know, Obama had to agonize for apparently days and days and days about whether to go get Bin Laden.

00:07:42.000 I don't think that's something that Trump would agonize over very much.

00:07:44.000 And that's something that is obviously a very good thing.

00:07:47.000 Charles Krauthammer came out.

00:07:48.000 He says, look, Trump is returning America to world leadership.

00:07:50.000 Obviously, he's willing to be aggressive in his use of military force.

00:07:54.000 All right, well, we don't really know what the Trump doctrine is yet, but he's winning, isn't he?

00:08:00.000 Yes, I welcome this.

00:08:02.000 I'm not an America firster.

00:08:04.000 I thought it was a mistake to enunciate a doctrine in the inaugural address, which is we're coming home.

00:08:10.000 It scared the bejeebies out of our allies in NATO when he talked about it being obsolete.

00:08:16.000 It scared in the Middle East, the Gulf Arabs were scared to death.

00:08:20.000 I think this is reassuring that we are returning

00:08:24.000 Well, this is what's confusing as all hell to a lot of the Trump supporters, and we'll get to that in just a minute.

00:08:29.000 Chris Wallace says that what's very clear here is that Trump has been basically humiliating Obama by being as quick as he is to use military force when called for.

00:08:51.000 And this is a president sending a message that he's, as opposed to Barack Obama, willing to project and very comfortable projecting the use of U.S.

00:08:59.000 force anywhere he feels is necessary.

00:09:02.000 And again, as I say, I think that Donald Trump has shown a willingness to project American force, what, less than 100 days into office, that we certainly didn't see with Barack Obama, who the Trump administration openly dismisses as paralysis through analysis.

00:09:20.000 Okay, so, you know, all of this is sort of, I think, a little bit early.

00:09:25.000 Not just because, you know, not because I think Trump is wrong in doing what he's doing.

00:09:29.000 I think he's exactly right in doing what he's doing.

00:09:31.000 But I think people are trying to graft an ideology onto Trump that he may not hold, and it's a little bit premature.

00:09:35.000 But I'll discuss that in just a minute.

00:09:37.000 I want to bring on our special guest today.

00:09:39.000 Fadi Alkadi is a Middle East and Northern Africa human rights advocate, and he's written about what he thinks the United States ought to do with regard to Syria and what the United States has an obligation to do with regard to Syrian refugees.

00:09:52.000 Mr. Alkadi, thanks so much for joining The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:09:56.000 Oh, thank you for having me.

00:10:16.000 Of Trump's strikes in Syria.

00:10:17.000 So let's start with Trump's strikes in Syria.

00:10:19.000 You say that President Trump's strikes in Syria violated international law and you say accountability is the answer.

00:10:25.000 What sort of accountability are you talking about if nobody's actually holding Assad to account?

00:10:29.000 Well, that exactly has been the problem for the past six years, whether the previous former American administration was part of the problem or the solution is not really the issue.

00:10:40.000 But there was never been a discussion, a conversation, an international conversation about how to bring Assad and everyone else who has committed atrocities in this particular conflict.

00:10:55.000 I mean, to me, it's just seemed that there is a sort of a missing connection here.

00:11:02.000 Mr. Trump's, I mean, during the presidential campaign, he has been sort of, I mean, I'm going to say it, he has been demonizing, you know, the refugee population, specifically, you know, those refugees coming from countries with a Muslim majority and the Syrians.

00:11:25.000 It seemed to me that there is a sort of inconsistent policy in terms of, you know, dealing, you know, with sending, you know, missiles to hit Assad, but at the same time not finding the linkage to this problem.

00:11:42.000 The problem is that these refugees really fled a country that is 1.00

00:11:48.000 has been seeing atrocities and massacres over the past six years.

00:11:52.000 And if you denied that, if you fundamentally denied that, you don't have an excuse to send these missiles to punish a dictator or a brutal governor.

00:12:10.000 So I want to ask you a question about this, because this has been a contention made by a lot of people that it's fundamentally inconsistent, as you say, for the Trump administration to fire missiles at an airbase in Syria while also banning Muslim refugees from Syria into the United States.

00:12:26.000 But isn't it true that, I mean, there are 50-plus Muslim countries all around the world

00:12:30.000 Uh, that have the capacity to take in refugees.

00:12:32.000 Turkey, obviously, has taken in well over a million Syrian refugees.

00:12:36.000 Uh, why do you think that it's the obligation of Western countries like the United States or countries in Europe to take in Syrian refugees who it's, I mean, let's face it, it's impossible to vet their backgrounds because the government has no records and we can't trust the government anyway. 0.96

00:12:49.000 We don't know who's coming in.

00:12:51.000 There have been serious issues with crime and some instances of terrorism in Europe due to refugees, not necessarily from Syria, but from places like Libya. 1.00

00:13:01.000 Why does the West have an obligation to take in everybody, or does the West have an obligation to take in everybody on Earth who is in some sort of dire human rights strait when an alternative might be available in terms of Muslim countries taking in these folks? 1.00

00:13:15.000 Well, Ben, everybody has a responsibility to take in refugees if they can and if they're willing.

00:13:22.000 And, I mean, I live in a country, we're talking now, you know, from Jordan, who has also, is a neighboring country to Syria and has taken, you know, approximately a million and a half.

00:13:33.000 Lebanon is another neighboring country which has taken more than it actually takes.

00:13:39.000 Turkey has taken so much refugees in the past few years.

00:13:45.000 In the sense of the responsibility, it's everyone's responsibility.

00:13:50.000 And the problem about the neighboring countries, they have been really flooded, their infrastructure cannot absorb extended waves of refugees.

00:14:03.000 And it's just the matter of fact that we cannot sustain, and I think this is the key word,

00:14:10.000 We cannot sustain the neighboring countries to keep on receiving more refugees or else or otherwise they will collapse and we don't want them to collapse. 1.00

00:14:20.000 And there comes the sort of like the issue of Europe and the United States and Canada and everyone else.

00:14:27.000 You have a very true point about why other Muslim countries like Saudi, the UAE have not really mobilized, you know, these, you know, have not

00:14:39.000 provided access to these refugees in the past.

00:14:41.000 But let's just face it, they are also on the, some of these Gulf countries are on the forefront of providing substantial financial aid to a UN agency that is providing aid to these

00:14:55.000 to these refugees, which is, by the way, Ben, which is, by the way, another problem that Mr. Trump is facing in terms of this inconsistency.

00:15:05.000 Now, we're talking about helping the Syrians and recognizing that a massacre has happened and something needs to happen, but at the same time, he cuts aid to the World Food Program agency, which basically provides food.

00:15:18.000 But he's talked about increasing aid pretty dramatically for refugee programs, specifically Syrian refugee programs in the area by sponsoring refugee camps in places like Turkey.

00:15:28.000 One of the questions that I have here is that you say that every country has sort of an equal obligation to take in refugees in human rights situations.

00:15:34.000 Obviously, that has not been true historically.

00:15:37.000 Obviously, to take an easy example, the Palestinian refugee crisis has been on the hook for 70 years plus.

00:15:45.000 And Jordan took in many Palestinian refugees and then pushed them out to Lebanon.

00:15:49.000 Lebanon pushed out those Palestinian refugees to Tunis.

00:15:55.000 The problem that I have here with a lot of the talk about who should take in refugees is it assumes that all cultures are equally malleable and assimilate easily to the cultures that are supposed to take them in.

00:16:07.000 It seems to me that it should be easier for Jordan to absorb refugees from Syria than it would be for France to absorb refugees from Syria, given cultural differences, which do make a difference in terms of how people have grown up, what

00:16:19.000 The idea that you have to take in a refugee in order to oppose the slaughter of civilians, I don't see how that follows, in other words.

00:16:31.000 Why is it bad that Trump is trying to bomb Assad and stop Assad from committing gas attacks if Trump doesn't take in Syrian refugees?

00:16:39.000 It doesn't seem like there's a connection between the two.

00:16:41.000 You may think that he's wrong not to take in Syrian refugees, but why is it now bad for him to bomb the airfield from which Assad is launching gas attacks?

00:16:49.000 Well, let's put it this way, Ben.

00:16:51.000 The issue about the global responsibility to protect those who flee atrocities, I don't think it's just a moral issue.

00:17:04.000 And I'm not quite sure that it is sort of, you know, the issue about cultural differences can substantiate the issue of the need to protection.

00:17:13.000 We have also to recognize that in some, what you just said, or refer to as culture, there may not be an adequate sort of structure to provide protection to those people who are fleeing massacres and atrocities.

00:17:30.000 And I sort of think the neighboring countries have

00:17:33.000 sort of grown to a point where they can no longer provide such protection.

00:17:39.000 So I think that the main difference here is that some countries, some cultures, as you referred, have more sort of advanced, more of substantiated structures that, you know, that makes them capable of providing such protection.

00:17:55.000 The other point, I think, is that when we talk about, you know, Mr. Trump's administration sort of sending these messages to

00:18:02.000 I think so.

00:18:23.000 You know, atrocities and massacres.

00:18:43.000 Thank you, Ben.

00:18:44.000 Okay, so back to what's going on with regard to the Trump administration policy here.

00:18:49.000 So obviously Trump has been very militaristic, his use of Moab, his use of his militarism with regard to Assad.

00:18:58.000 So what exactly is going on here?

00:19:00.000 So I have a working theory that I'm going to tell you about.

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00:19:59.000 Here is my theory about what's going on with the Trump administration foreign policy.

00:20:03.000 There are two theories that have been put out there.

00:20:06.000 Theory number one is the theory that President Trump is basically being co-opted by all of the evil neocons in the administration.

00:20:15.000 That it's basically Reince Priebus and it's

00:20:19.000 It's General Mattis, and it's all these members of the administration who are neocons.

00:20:23.000 Nikki Haley, all of the interventionists, the globalist cucks, who are taking advantage of President Trump, and President Trump is basically being led astray by these people.

00:20:31.000 This has been the line that's been taken by people like Ann Coulter, who is never willing to take Trump on directly, but instead will sort of blame his action on the people who surround him.

00:20:41.000 So theory number one is that Trump is being co-opted by the establishment.

00:20:45.000 Here's Ann Coulter basically expressing that theory.

00:20:48.000 And for that region of the world, Assad is one of the better leaders.

00:20:56.000 There are probably only one or two that are better than he.

00:20:58.000 He's not even like a Saddam Hussein murderous thug.

00:21:03.000 He helped us after 9-11, giving us intelligence.

00:21:06.000 It's a very strange thing we've done here and I feel like it is such a departure from what Trump said on the campaign trail and in 2013 on his Twitter feed.

00:21:17.000 Okay, and so she's sort of saying it's a departure, and Roger Stone, who's sort of this conspiracy-minded guy who worked closely with Trump, he says that Trump is being co-opted and Steve Bannon is basically being attacked by all of the neocon globalist cucks.

00:21:30.000 You're a Bannonite.

00:21:31.000 Well, I'm a friend of Steve Bannon.

00:21:32.000 You're a friend of his, and you, I think, share a little bit more of his ideology than perhaps Mr. Kushner or Mr. Priebus.

00:21:40.000 If he's getting elbowed out, what does that tell you?

00:21:42.000 Well, it tells me a couple things.

00:21:43.000 First of all, I think Steve made an error by not spending any of his political capital to bring other Trump-ites and non-globalists into the White House circle.

00:21:52.000 So now... He didn't do a good job staffing the White House.

00:21:54.000 He's alone.

00:21:55.000 Reince Priebus and Jared Kushner did.

00:21:57.000 Yes.

00:21:57.000 So therefore, now he's alone and he's surrounded.

00:22:01.000 I think unfairly, perhaps, he takes the rap for the fiasco surrounding health care.

00:22:08.000 Maybe Reince should be wearing a bit more of that.

00:22:12.000 The travel ban is also probably counting against him, although I would argue that in Donald Trump's case, he only suffers politically not when he's defeated, but when he stops trying.

00:22:23.000 Okay, so again, the idea is that Bannon has been surrounded by this cabal and they're taking advantage of Trump.

00:22:29.000 So that's theory number one, is that Trump is being co-opted by this evil cabal.

00:22:33.000 It's not Trump's fault, he's just being co-opted by this evil cabal.

00:22:35.000 Theory number two is a little bit different.

00:22:39.000 Theory number two is that Donald Trump basically just reacts.

00:22:43.000 That something happens and Donald Trump reacts and there is no plan and he's just

00:22:49.000 Acting how Donald Trump has always acted, which is he reacts to the news that's on TV.

00:22:53.000 And there's a fair bit of evidence to support this basic case.

00:22:55.000 Here's Sean Spicer saying that basically Eric Trump and Ivanka Trump pushed Trump into reacting to the gas attack in Syria.

00:23:01.000 There's no question that Ivanka and others weighed into him as, you know, it was asked earlier, Hallie asked it, that when he himself saw images, he was very, very moved.

00:23:13.000 And I think Ivanka and others, frankly, I don't think that there's many humans that came into contact with the president during that window of time that said, did you see those images on television?

00:23:24.000 So I don't

00:23:25.000 You know, I think there was a widespread acknowledgement that the images and the actions that have been taken were horrific and required action.

00:23:36.000 Okay, so, you know, the story is that apparently Ivanka came to Trump and she said, it's really bad what's happening in Syria.

00:23:42.000 He said, great, let's bomb it.

00:23:44.000 That's basically how the story went.

00:23:45.000 And then here is Trump describing the moment that he chose to make the decision to fire the missiles at Assad in Syria.

00:23:52.000 I was sitting at the table.

00:23:54.000 We had finished dinner.

00:23:54.000 We're now having dessert.

00:23:57.000 And we had the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you've ever seen.

00:24:01.000 And President Xi was enjoying it.

00:24:05.000 And I was given the message from the generals that the ships are locked and loaded.

00:24:13.000 What do you do?

00:24:14.000 And we made a determination to do it.

00:24:16.000 So the missiles were on the way.

00:24:18.000 Does that seem like someone with a worldview?

00:24:20.000 I was sitting there eating a piece of the most beautiful chocolate cake.

00:24:23.000 Let me tell you, this chocolate cake was just big league.

00:24:26.000 Big league chocolate cake.

00:24:28.000 And the president of China loved it.

00:24:30.000 Loved.

00:24:31.000 L-U-V-E-Y. 1.00

00:24:34.000 Loved.

00:24:35.000 I mean, does this sound like somebody with a plan?

00:24:37.000 So, I guess the second theory here is that Trump just sort of lashes out.

00:24:40.000 Here is my theory.

00:24:42.000 My theory is that both are true.

00:24:45.000 Basically, Trump reacts to a certain thing.

00:24:48.000 And then Trump responds to the applause based on that reaction.

00:24:51.000 So, if he reacts, follow the course of his campaign.

00:24:54.000 Basically, he leads off his campaign by talking about Mexican immigrants coming across the border and committing crimes. 1.00

00:25:01.000 And a certain cadre of people cheer and love it and they think it's just great.

00:25:05.000 At least Trump is saying this sort of thing.

00:25:07.000 And Trump responds to them, and he panders to their applause, because Trump is motivated by one thing and one thing mostly, and that is love of Trump.

00:25:14.000 If you love Trump, you are great, right?

00:25:15.000 Trump has said this in interviews about Vladimir Putin.

00:25:18.000 Putin likes me.

00:25:19.000 That means he's okay, right?

00:25:20.000 This has been Trump's sort of theory, his working theory of the world for 70 years.

00:25:24.000 If you like Trump, that makes you good.

00:25:26.000 If you don't like Trump, that makes you bad.

00:25:28.000 So, something happens like a gas attack in Syria.

00:25:31.000 Trump responds because Ivanka says it's bad.

00:25:33.000 He says, okay, let's fire some missiles.

00:25:35.000 And then, who's going to respond positively to that?

00:25:37.000 Well, it's not going to be all of the people who backed him.

00:25:40.000 It's not going to be the alt-right group.

00:25:41.000 It's not going to be the isolationists.

00:25:42.000 It's not going to be Pat Buchanan.

00:25:44.000 It's going to be all of the more interventionist, hawkish people on foreign policy.

00:25:48.000 Those people will cheer him.

00:25:49.000 And so then, he falls into their thrall because he starts pandering to their applause.

00:25:53.000 Now, Ivanka and Jared are leading the crew instead of Bannon.

00:25:56.000 So, Bannon was leading the crew when everybody was applauding him for his trillion-dollar infrastructure package, and for his talk about how he was going to put up tariffs.

00:26:04.000 That was Bannon's doing, and so Bannon was the guy applauding the loudest, and that's when Trump was friends with him.

00:26:08.000 Now Bannon doesn't like what he just did, in terms of reaction.

00:26:11.000 And so now he's fallen under the sway of Ivanka and Jared, at least up to the point where he does something Ivanka and Jared don't like, and then he turns on them in favor of another ideology.

00:26:20.000 Now, what does that mean for the future of the Trump administration?

00:26:23.000 We'll talk about that in just a second.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 17, 2017

Ep. 286 - Trump The Conqueror

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