The Ben Shapiro Show - IT’S HAPPENING: Israel WRECKS Iran

00:00:00.000 Already, folks, tons to get to on today's show.

00:00:02.000 One of the most historic geopolitical moments of our lifetime happening right now as Israel takes out the Iranian nuclear regime, takes out its top military leaders. 0.92

00:00:11.000 We'll bring you all the operational details, all the intelligence spilling out into the public.

00:00:15.000 We'll talk with sources on the ground in Israel, top military members, all the information coming up.

00:00:22.000 Plus, Democrats continue to shout into the void.

00:00:24.000 Senator Alex Padilla of California.

00:00:26.000 Tried to crash a press conference by Christie, you know, I'm the Secretary of Homeland Security, and get some attention.

00:00:31.000 And then his big moment got completely obliterated by the news cycles.

00:00:35.000 So much coming up on today's show.

00:00:37.000 So, last night, Israel began striking targets inside Iran, striking a wide variety of targets in Iran.

00:00:44.000 Those strikes have continued all the way into the daylight hours, which suggests that Israel has complete control of the skies of Iran, an astonishing geopolitical, unprecedented situation.

00:00:55.000 Understand that Iran is located some 2,000 miles from the state of Israel.

00:01:00.000 That Iran is a country of 90 million people and Israel is a country of 9.8 million people or thereabouts 2 million of whom are Arab.

00:01:08.000 Israel is now projecting power 2,000 miles across a variety of countries from Syria to Iraq all the way into the heart of Iran, striking sites in Tehran, taking out top IRGC commanders, taking out nuclear facilities.

00:01:22.000 Here is a map of the situation.

00:01:25.000 As it currently stands, an interactive Iran nuclear sites map showing where they have been building.

00:01:30.000 You can see that there are uranium mining facilities and suspected weaponization facilities in places like Natanz and a wide variety of other sites.

00:01:43.000 Israel has been striking these all night long. 0.95

00:01:46.000 Natanz has been reduced to rubble, according to contemporaneous reports.

00:01:50.000 Sites have been struck in Isfahan, which is another area.

00:01:53.000 Where they're supposedly building nuclear weapons.

00:01:55.000 There are a wide variety of Iranian nuclear facilities around Tehran.

00:01:59.000 Israel has been striking those all night long and into the morning hours.

00:02:02.000 The video that has emerged is very clear.

00:02:05.000 Here's video of mushroom clouds in Iran.

00:02:08.000 Again, this sort of video is being put out there, not by the Israelis.

00:02:11.000 It's being put out originally by Iranians who are on the ground. 1.00

00:02:15.000 Again, many Iranians support all this because the Iranian people in general do not support the Iranian revolutionary Ayatollah regime.

00:02:27.000 And you can see the extent of the strikes.

00:02:31.000 The strikes have continued all night long.

00:02:33.000 Again, into the morning hours.

00:02:36.000 The IDF has announced the death of a wide variety of top IRGC officials, including the chief of staff of the Iranian armed forces, the commander of the IRGC, the commander of Iran's emergency command, all eliminated in the Israeli strikes across Iran by more than 200 fighter jets.

00:02:53.000 So far, Iran's response has been minimal because their capacity has been absolutely degraded in extraordinary, extraordinary ways.

00:03:00.000 In fact, there is video of Israeli Air Force jets refueling over Iranian airspace, which is absolutely unthinkable.

00:03:07.000 And you have to understand that this is the culmination, not only of decades of Iranian threats and Iranian attempts to develop a nuclear weapon, this is also the culmination of the Israeli campaign to chop off the arms of the Iranian octopus that has been ongoing since October 7th.

00:03:20.000 After October 7th, Israel...

00:03:25.000 Hamas is now on its last legs, thanks to the work of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. 0.87

00:03:28.000 Hamas is no longer being supported by the UNRWA, which means they're being starved of funding and they're being starved of logistical support.

00:03:36.000 Israel then went and completely defenestrated Hezbollah in one of the most stunning military operations in modern history.

00:03:41.000 With minimal loss of Israeli life, Israel not only knocked over the Hezbollah forces in Lebanon with their beeper attack, followed by the killing of Hassan at Nasrallah, They hit Hezbollah so hard and destroyed so many of their weapons caches throughout Lebanon that Hezbollah was unable to defend the regime in Syria.

00:03:59.000 That regime has fallen, of course, and the new regime is attempting to make agreements with the United States and with Israel, among others.

00:04:07.000 Meanwhile, Israel has been heavily striking the Houthis in the south.

00:04:09.000 All of these different terrorist groups are run directly from Tehran.

00:04:13.000 They're run by Iran. 0.97

00:04:14.000 And now.

00:04:25.000 And all the people on the right were complaining that President Trump wasn't being Barack Obama.

00:04:30.000 That was not a MAGA position to be Barack Obama.

00:04:32.000 It was never a MAGA position to be Barack Obama.

00:04:35.000 Donald Trump said for 10 years that the JCPOA was the worst deal in American history.

00:04:40.000 He was never going back to it.

00:04:41.000 As new details emerge as to the levels of coordination and talking between the United States.

00:04:46.000 And Israel, over this current wave of attacks, it is emerging that it is rare.

00:04:51.000 You know, you listen to my show.

00:04:53.000 It is very rare that I suggest that the President of the United States is playing 4D chess.

00:04:57.000 This appears to be an actual, real-life 4D chess move by the President of the United States to put Iran in a box, to keep them there, and then to allow for the possibility of Israel to destroy their nuclear facilities, large swaths of their military capability, with no risk to American troops.

00:05:15.000 So President Trump was, in fact, asked by the Wall Street Journal about whether he was given a heads-up by the Israelis.

00:05:20.000 His actual response, quote, heads-up?

00:05:23.000 It wasn't a heads-up.

00:05:24.000 It was, we know what's going on.

00:05:27.000 So, again, President Trump being very clear about this, it appears the United States is not just read in on the operation, you know, the extent to which this was, in fact, a 40 chess plan in which the appearance of negotiations with Steve Whitcoff, for example, were actively put forward by the United States in order to sort of.

00:05:49.000 It's quite plausible that the United States was in fact involved in a sort of disinformation operation operated directly at the Iranian government.

00:05:57.000 In any case, tactical surprise was not only achieved, it was achieved in historic fashion.

00:06:02.000 And that looks a lot like 4D chess with plausible deniability from the United States.

00:06:06.000 I mean, that's what it looks like from the outside and from all of the information that's being released, including from President Trump.

00:06:14.000 So again, the extent of the strikes is extraordinary.

00:06:18.000 The way that the operation went down is extraordinary as well.

00:06:22.000 According to Axios, the strike was eight months in the making.

00:06:26.000 Axios reports, Israel's stunning and sprawling operation overnight targeting Iran's nuclear facilities, missile sites, scientists, and generals followed eight months of intensive clandestine preparations.

00:06:36.000 The operation launched a new war in the Middle East that could draw in the United States, says Axios.

00:06:40.000 That's not true.

00:06:41.000 It did not launch a new war in the Middle East.

00:06:44.000 When people think of war, they think of full-scale ground invasion of Iraq. 0.97

00:06:47.000 All the people today who are talking about a full-scale ground invasion of Iran are delusional, insane, or liars. 0.88

00:06:52.000 That is not a thing that is happening. 0.88

00:06:54.000 Israel, through air power alone, has left the Iranian regime on its knees.

00:07:00.000 Israel has been attempting to eliminate Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities in an operation expected to last at least several days.

00:07:06.000 The IDF is suggesting it may last all the way up to two weeks.

00:07:09.000 Around 25 nuclear scientists are already dead.

00:07:13.000 Israel targeted the entire top brass of the Iranian military.

00:07:17.000 There is a story out that suggests that Israeli security officials said that Israel deliberately manipulated events to lure Iran's top air commanders into a meeting and then ensured they stayed there and then killed all of them with an airstrike.

00:07:30.000 Many of the top commanders were killed in their beds because they were so sanguine about the possibility that Israel would do anything.

00:07:37.000 And of course, they were wrong.

00:07:40.000 Israel's Mossad had operatives on the ground conducting covert sabotage operations on missile and air defenses.

00:07:46.000 In fact, the Mossad released video of its agents in Iran releasing sophisticated technology in order to target Iranian surface-to-surface air missiles.

00:07:56.000 Here is some of that footage.

00:07:58.000 You can see it happening here in the background.

00:08:01.000 According to the Times of Israel, the Mossad spy agency revealed rare footage showing its actions against Iranian air defenses and ballistic missile launchers in Iran.

00:08:09.000 Showing two covert agents launching missiles from inside Iran.

00:08:12.000 From inside Iran.

00:08:13.000 The drones, apparently.

00:08:15.000 This is insane.

00:08:16.000 Okay, this is truly insane levels of competence.

00:08:19.000 If you like competence, this is your morning.

00:08:22.000 Mossad built a secret explosive drone base in Iran.

00:08:26.000 In Iran, 2,000 miles away from Israel, Mossad built a drone base building explosive drones in Iran.

00:08:33.000 And then the drones were used to strike ballistic missile launchers at a base near Tehran, preventing Iran from firing projectiles at Israel as the strikes began.

00:08:42.000 Additionally, vehicles carrying weapons systems were smuggled into Iran.

00:08:45.000 Those systems took out the Iranian air defenses and gave Israeli planes air supremacy and freedom of action over Iran. 0.81

00:08:51.000 There's a third covert effort that involved Mossad commandos deploying precision missiles near anti-aircraft sites in central Iran.

00:08:59.000 Highly coordinated.

00:09:01.000 Highly sophisticated.

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00:10:51.000 According to Axios, the idea for an operation simultaneously targeting Iran's missile and nuclear program.

00:10:57.000 Which Netanyahu has described as existential threats to Israel, took hold after Iran struck Israel in October during a cycle of tit-for-tat escalation between the countries.

00:11:06.000 Prime Minister Netanyahu ordered the military and intelligence services to begin planning.

00:11:11.000 Also, Iran has been announcing continuously that they're upping their game with regard to their nuclear program.

00:11:17.000 Israel has been preparing for the strike for months.

00:11:21.000 According to Axios, the preparations alarmed some in the White House who worded Netanyahu might move even without a green light from Trump.

00:11:27.000 These would be the so-called restrainers who aren't interested just in restraining the United States from taking action, but interested in restraining Israel from taking action.

00:11:34.000 Netanyahu assured Trump that he would not move without Trump knowing about it.

00:11:39.000 The White House, for its part, told Netanyahu that if Israel attacked Iran, it would do so alone.

00:11:44.000 Trump himself had said several times in recent days, including several hours before the strikes, he opposed an Israeli strike that could blow up the negotiations.

00:11:51.000 But, apparently, Trump has now revealed all.

00:11:56.000 Two Israeli officials claimed that Trump and his aides were only pretending to oppose an Israeli attack in public.

00:12:01.000 We had a clear U.S. green light, according to one.

00:12:03.000 The goal was to convince Iran no attack was imminent and to make sure Iranians on Israel's target list would not actually move to new locations.

00:12:10.000 In fact, according to Israeli officials, you remember there were reports earlier this week that were made that President Trump called up Netanyahu and tried to talk him out of a strike.

00:12:21.000 Well, it turns out, in reality, the call likely dealt with coordination ahead of the attack.

00:12:26.000 Now, the Trump administration has been publicly distancing itself, or at least was originally.

00:12:30.000 So originally, Secretary of State Marco Rubio put out a statement saying, quote, Tonight, Israel took unilateral action against Iran.

00:12:36.000 We are not involved in strikes against Iran.

00:12:38.000 Our top priority is protecting American forces in the region.

00:12:41.000 Israel advised us they believe this action was necessary for its self-defense.

00:12:44.000 President Trump and the administration have taken all necessary steps to protect our forces and remain in close contact with our regional partners.

00:12:50.000 Let me be clear.

00:12:51.000 Iran should not target U.S. interests or personnel.

00:12:54.000 And so from Secretary Rubio's assessment, the idea was Israel acted alone, will act to defend Israel from missile or drone attack, which is the proper response, because you don't want this thing escalating even more if thousands of Israeli civilians were to die, for example, in Iranian missile barrage, then Israel would take even harsher action that would presumably target the Iranian oil fields and perhaps the Ayatollahs themselves.

00:13:16.000 Secretary of State also making clear that if Iran fires on American troops, that there will be hell to pay, and presumably the Ayatollahs themselves, Would be cooked physically by American armaments.

00:13:29.000 So that was what Secretary Rubio was making clear.

00:13:32.000 But this morning, President Trump put out a series of statements himself.

00:13:36.000 First of all, he was talking to John Carl of ABC.

00:13:40.000 And he says, quote, I think it's been excellent.

00:13:42.000 We gave them a chance meeting Iran.

00:13:44.000 And they didn't take it.

00:13:45.000 They got hit hard, very hard.

00:13:46.000 They got hit about as hard as you're going to get hit.

00:13:47.000 And there is more to come, a lot more.

00:13:50.000 President Trump's first statement last night, quote, Certain Iranian hardliners spoke bravely, but they didn't know what was about to happen.

00:14:16.000 They are all dead now.

00:14:20.000 And it will only get worse.

00:14:22.000 Remember peace through strength, folks?

00:14:24.000 Remember peace through strength?

00:14:24.000 This is what it looks like.

00:14:26.000 This is what Trump's foreign policy looks like.

00:14:27.000 It's what it's always looked like.

00:14:29.000 Anyone who is surprised by this has been ignoring what President Trump has been saying and doing for his entire time as President of the United States.

00:14:36.000 There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal come to an end.

00:14:43.000 Iran must make a deal before there is nothing left and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire.

00:14:47.000 No more death, no more destruction.

00:14:48.000 Just do it before it is too late.

00:14:50.000 God bless you all.

00:14:52.000 Now, the president did put out an even funnier statement last night.

00:14:56.000 President Trump's first response to the Israeli attack was, quote, Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb.

00:15:02.000 We hope to return to the negotiating table.

00:15:03.000 We'll see.

00:15:04.000 There are some people in the leadership who won't return.

00:15:07.000 Subtle.

00:15:08.000 There are some people in the leadership who won't return.

00:15:11.000 That is true.

00:15:11.000 And you can imagine the next negotiating session are going to have to be some new names that are learned.

00:15:16.000 President Trump also made a statement this morning.

00:15:17.000 Two months ago, I gave Iran a 60-day ultimatum to make a deal. 0.90

00:15:20.000 They should have done it.

00:15:21.000 Today is day 61. I told them what to do, but they just couldn't get there.

00:15:24.000 Now they have, perhaps, a second chance.

00:15:26.000 Well, Iran has basically blown that second chance already. 0.99

00:15:29.000 Reuters is reporting that they are full-scale pulling out of any sort of negotiation.

00:15:32.000 There is no one to negotiate with at this point.

00:15:34.000 Also, they actually have no leverage at this point.

00:15:38.000 What Iran should do, if they had any brains at all, would be to come to President Trump on bended knee and beg him, beg him to give up their nuclear program in exchange for the Ayatollahs remaining alive. 0.98

00:15:50.000 And the regime not being threatened and sanctions and all the rest of this sort of stuff.

00:15:54.000 Because right now, the Iranian regime does not have the forward operating capacity.

00:15:59.000 They just don't.

00:16:01.000 Again, you have to see this as the culmination of the Israeli efforts over the course of legitimately years.

00:16:10.000 I think the most astonishing response thus far has come courtesy of Hezbollah. 1.00

00:16:16.000 So Hezbollah, remember, is the... 0.95

00:16:20.000 They were essentially the de facto government of Lebanon.

00:16:23.000 They had taken over large swaths of Syria and they were operating on behalf of the Assad regime.

00:16:29.000 And Israel hit Hezbollah so hard that here is Hezbollah's statement about Iran being struck.

00:16:38.000 Quote, the Lebanese group, this is from Al Jazeera, which of course is a Qatari propaganda outlet, meaning an Iranian proxy.

00:16:45.000 The Lebanese group calls the strikes a dangerous escalation and an Israeli violation of all controls and rules under full American cover and sponsorship.

00:16:53.000 A statement on Telegram said Hezbollah affirms this enemy abides by no logic or laws and that it only knows the language of murder, fire, and destruction.

00:17:00.000 They said the people and countries of the region must realize that if this aggression is not met with rejection, condemnation, and support for Iran and its people, this criminal entity will only increase its aggression and tyranny. 0.78

00:17:09.000 Hezbollah expresses its full solidarity with the Islamic Republic of Iran, its leadership, and people in the face of this dangerous attack.

00:17:15.000 That's the end of the statement.

00:17:16.000 Now, normally, what you might expect from Hezbollah, a gigantic terror group, is, and so we are joining in and firing rockets into northern Israel. 0.90

00:17:22.000 Or, so we are joining in and we will be attempting an invasion of northern Israel. 0.87

00:17:26.000 Instead, this is basically the high-five drowning meme.

00:17:29.000 For those who have not seen it, man drowning, putting up his hand out of the water, somebody else coming along and giving him a high-five as he drowns.

00:17:36.000 That's Hezbollah saying to Iran, good luck. 0.79

00:17:39.000 Good luck storming the castle, boys.

00:17:41.000 Enjoy yourselves.

00:17:42.000 The Lebanese government, which was so weak, Just a few months ago that they had no capacity to stand up to Hezbollah has now informed Hezbollah it will not tolerate Hezbollah joining in Tehran's response because they are afraid that Israel will then strike in Beirut.

00:17:56.000 According to Saudi news outlet Al Arabiya, the time when the organization bypassed the state in deciding to go to war is over.

00:18:01.000 That is what the Lebanese government is now telling Hezbollah.

00:18:05.000 That is where things stand.

00:18:07.000 Perhaps the funniest reaction is the crocodile tears being shed by the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. 0.67

00:18:11.000 No one is happier in the Middle East than the Saudis.

00:18:14.000 The Saudis get to sit there and do nothing while the Israelis do all of their dirty work. 1.00

00:18:17.000 Iran has threatened and bombed, actually, Saudi oil fields.

00:18:21.000 Iran hates KSA.

00:18:23.000 So the Saudis put out some weak form of condemnation.

00:18:31.000 Quote, And they denounced the strikes on what they called the Brotherly Islamic Republic of Iran.

00:18:44.000 Sure, sure.

00:18:45.000 Well, I can tell that that's not true.

00:18:47.000 And the way that I can tell that that's not true is here is a list of countries that participated in intercepting Iranian missiles and drone attacks in response against Israel as of this morning.

00:18:56.000 Israel, the United States, the UK, Saudi Arabia.

00:19:00.000 Wait, Saudi's on that. 0.96

00:19:01.000 Why would Saudi be on that list? 0.97

00:19:02.000 I thought that they would be upset about the heinous Israeli aggression against Iran, but there they are shooting down drones that are aimed at Israel.

00:19:09.000 Why, that's weird.

00:19:10.000 Azerbaijan, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey, and the UAE.

00:19:13.000 Qatar, of course, is doing so at the behest of the United States, where the United States has a major airbase. 0.59

00:19:20.000 So, Iran, for its part, is still bloviating. 0.94

00:19:24.000 Iranian President Masoud Pajekian said that Iran will not remain silent, warning a powerful response that will make the enemy regret its foolish act.

00:19:31.000 Now, they've been doing this stuff for quite a while.

00:19:34.000 They always suggest.

00:19:35.000 They fly the red flag of revenge.

00:19:38.000 The red flag of revenge.

00:19:39.000 But the reality is that Iran's capacity has been so degraded that the possibility of a massive response seems to be shrinking moment by moment.

00:19:52.000 Now, again, will Iran respond?

00:19:54.000 It would be shocking if Iran did not respond.

00:19:58.000 Truly shocking.

00:19:59.000 And frankly, it's shocking they haven't so far.

00:20:00.000 But their command and control structure Thank you.

00:20:08.000 You can see why they don't seem to have the capacity at this point to pull off a major operation.

00:20:16.000 It's a stunning Israeli operation.

00:20:18.000 It's going to go on for days.

00:20:19.000 We've been told by the IDF this can go on for days and days and days.

00:20:23.000 That Israel is going to run continuous bombing raids against Iranian missile factories, against top scientists, against members of the Iranian military regime, the Revolutionary Guard Corps.

00:20:35.000 Folks, tons coming up.

00:20:37.000 More information on the United States.

00:20:39.000 What exactly was the involvement between the United States and Israel?

00:20:42.000 President Trump speaking out about that.

00:20:44.000 Plus, we will be joined by the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, by the former IDF spokesperson, and everything going on in California.

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00:23:11.000 Israel will not live under the possibility of extermination from the Iranian government.

00:23:17.000 They were not going to do that.

00:23:18.000 That is something that Prime Minister Netanyahu made absolutely clear last night.

00:23:21.000 He released a statement in Hebrew, of course, and then he released a statement.

00:23:27.000 Moments ago, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion, a targeted military operation to roll back the Iranian threat to Israel's very survival. 0.99

00:23:39.000 This operation will continue for as many days as it takes to remove this threat.

00:23:45.000 For decades, the tyrants of Tehran have brazenly, openly called for Israel's destruction.

00:23:51.000 They've backed up their genocidal rhetoric with a program to develop nuclear weapons.

00:23:57.000 In recent years, Iran has produced enough highly enriched uranium for nine atom bombs.

00:24:04.000 Nine.

00:24:05.000 In recent months, Iran has taken steps that it has never taken before.

00:24:11.000 steps to weaponize this enriched uranium.

00:24:14.000 And if not stopped, It could be a year.

00:24:20.000 It could be within a few months, less than a year.

00:24:23.000 This is a clear and present danger to Israel's very survival. 0.99

00:24:28.000 Eighty years ago, the Jewish people were the victims of a Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazi regime.

00:24:35.000 Today, the Jewish state refuses to be a victim of a nuclear Holocaust perpetrated by the Iranian regime. 0.85

00:24:43.000 Now, as Prime Minister, I've made it clear time and again, Israel will never allow those who call for our annihilation to develop the means to achieve that goal.

00:24:54.000 Tonight, Israel backs those words with action.

00:24:57.000 We struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear enrichment program.

00:25:01.000 We struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear weaponization program. 0.95

00:25:05.000 We targeted Iran's main enrichment facility in Natanz.

00:25:09.000 We targeted Iran's leading nuclear scientists working on the Iranian bomb. 0.65

00:25:14.000 We also struck at the heart of Iran's ballistic missile program.

00:25:18.000 Last year, Iran fired 300 ballistic missiles at Israel.

00:25:22.000 Each of these missiles carries a ton of explosives and threatens the lives of hundreds of people.

00:25:29.000 Soon, those missiles could carry a nuclear payload, threatening the lives not of hundreds, but of millions.

00:25:37.000 Iran is gearing up to produce 10,000 of those ballistic missiles within three years.

00:25:44.000 Now, just imagine.

00:25:46.000 Imagine 10,000 tons of TNT landing on a country the size of New Jersey.

00:25:53.000 This is an intolerable threat.

00:25:55.000 It, too, must be stopped.

00:25:57.000 Iran is now working. 0.74

00:25:59.000 Okay, so the bottom line here is that Iran has been threatening and threatening and threatening for decades. 0.99

00:26:02.000 Israel did have a window of opportunity.

00:26:04.000 That window was going to close in the last round of fighting again.

00:26:07.000 Iran had sent some 300 missiles aimed at Israel.

00:26:10.000 Israel, in response, had taken out the S-300 batteries that were designed to shoot down Israeli Air Force planes.

00:26:17.000 Israel successfully did that. 0.91

00:26:19.000 The skies over Iran are clear. 0.91

00:26:21.000 So clear, there were early reports that Iran had been attempting to send up its jets, which would have been the stupidest possible thing that they could do. 1.00

00:26:28.000 The problem for Iran is that its Air Force is absolute trash. 0.97

00:26:32.000 They just don't have any updated jets. 0.92

00:26:33.000 So, according to reports, The jets that Iran was activating were Su-24 military jets.

00:26:40.000 Israel flies F-35s and F-16s.

00:26:42.000 So I asked our sponsors over at Perplexity to compare and contrast these planes.

00:26:46.000 And who would win in an air battle?

00:26:48.000 Just so we understand the differences in technology here.

00:26:51.000 According to Perplexity, the Su-24, F-35, and F-16 represent distinct generations and roles in aerial combat.

00:26:58.000 Here's a breakdown of their capabilities.

00:27:01.000 According to Perplexity, the Sukhoi Su-24 Fencer, is a tactical bomber for low-altitude strikes and ground attacks.

00:27:09.000 It has essentially minimal agility, no stealth features.

00:27:13.000 It is reliant on external support for survival in contested airspace.

00:27:16.000 Meanwhile, the F-35 Lightning is a fifth-generation stealth multi-role fighter optimized for beyond-visual-range combat.

00:27:25.000 It has sensor fusion that provides unmatched situational awareness.

00:27:28.000 The F-16 Fighting Falcon is a fourth-generation multi-role air superiority fighter.

00:27:32.000 It's been upgraded, by the way, by the Israelis.

00:27:35.000 So what would happen in a combat scenario?

00:27:37.000 Quote, the F-35 stealth and sensors would detect the Su-24 first, likely at 150 plus kilometers.

00:27:44.000 Just to be clear, what that means is that Israel would see over the horizon 120 miles to see the Su-24 with the F-35.

00:27:54.000 A single AIM-120D could engage before the radar even detects the F-35.

00:28:01.000 So this wouldn't be an air battle.

00:28:01.000 This would just be the plane goes up, the plane comes down.

00:28:03.000 It's that simple.

00:28:04.000 In close range scenarios, the Su-24's poor maneuverability and lack of helmet-mounted cueing systems make it vulnerable to the F-35's high off-bore sight missiles.

00:28:13.000 So, How about the F-16 versus the Su-24?

00:28:18.000 Basically, it would not even be a contest.

00:28:21.000 It would not even be a contest.

00:28:22.000 The Su-24, designed for ground attack, lacks the survivability or countermeasures to evade advanced fighters.

00:28:27.000 As seen in real-world engagements, non-stealthy bombers like the Su-24 are highly vulnerable.

00:28:31.000 To fourth and fifth generation fighters without heavy escort and electronic warfare support.

00:28:35.000 Essentially, it would be a biplane against a modern military jet.

00:28:38.000 And that is precisely, apparently, what happened.

00:28:41.000 Again, we've been reading new statements for weeks in which the Mullahs have been saying, we're not giving up our nuclear program come hell or high water.

00:28:46.000 We are not going to stop developing nuclear weapons.

00:28:50.000 We are not, under any circumstances, going to make a deal that ends with a denuclearized Iran.

00:28:58.000 Again, Iran could have prevented this at any time.

00:29:00.000 There's a point President Trump has made over and over and over.

00:29:02.000 Iran could have stopped this at any time.

00:29:04.000 All they had to do was say, fine, no nuclear program.

00:29:07.000 And that would have been the end of it.

00:29:09.000 The Trump administration wasn't even looking for them to stop developing ballistic missiles or funding terrorism.

00:29:14.000 But they didn't.

00:29:15.000 Instead, they decided they were going to keep pushing and keep pushing and keep pushing.

00:29:19.000 And President Trump played this absolutely perfectly.

00:29:21.000 Israel acted alone. 0.84

00:29:23.000 Israel acted with its own capacity.

00:29:27.000 Israel is doing this by itself. 0.93

00:29:29.000 And the United States is saying, listen, Israel is our ally.

00:29:33.000 Our interests and the Israeli interests align in Iran not having a nuclear weapon.

00:29:36.000 But this is Israel's fight predominantly and foremost. 0.61

00:29:40.000 And Israel is an independent country making its own decisions.

00:29:43.000 And that is the thing that really matters here, is that Israel was saying to the entire region that if you screw with Israel, these will be the consequences.

00:29:51.000 Joining us on the line to discuss all of this is Ambassador Danny Danan.

00:29:55.000 He's Israel's ambassador to the United Nations.

00:29:57.000 He is also a leading voice in the ruling Likud party, which is the head of the coalition government in Israel.

00:30:02.000 Ambassador Danan, thanks so much for joining me.

00:30:04.000 I really appreciate it.

00:30:06.000 Thank you for having me, Ben.

00:30:08.000 So first of all, why don't we start with what is the extent of the success that Israel has had in this attack so far?

00:30:14.000 What do we know?

00:30:16.000 Well, it was an impressive operation.

00:30:19.000 We haven't finished the job yet.

00:30:21.000 We are determined to finish the job.

00:30:23.000 You know, last night, more than 200 Israeli aircraft flew all the way to Iran, attacked nuclear facilities, ballistic missile infrastructure, and we also assassinated the military leaders.

00:30:38.000 You know, for years, we heard discussions, debates.

00:30:42.000 For the first time, we took actions.

00:30:44.000 And I think today the world is a better place, a safer place.

00:30:48.000 But we are not over yet.

00:30:53.000 Today in Israel, we embrace for the attack from Iran, and we are ready to continue with the operation. 1.00

00:31:01.000 So, Ambassador Danon, obviously a lot of questions in the last few weeks about the relationship between the United States and Israel, the conflict or coordination between the Israelis and the American government.

00:31:13.000 What do you know or what can you tell us about the levels of coordination between Israel and the American government?

00:31:17.000 Obviously, the Secretary of State Marco Rubio has said that Israel acted alone in all this.

00:31:21.000 President Trump has suggested that he did know that the operation was going to happen and that he had warned the Iranians that this was an eventuality if they did not come to the table with a proper offer.

00:31:30.000 What is the level of coordination and conversation that was happening between Israel and the United States in the run up to the attack?

00:31:35.000 Ben, you know, we talk with the U.S., but at the end of the day, those kind of decisions...

00:31:43.000 You know, we are the one who are at risk.

00:31:46.000 We are the one who we saw that the missiles from Iran flew to Israel a few months ago.

00:31:51.000 So it was an independent decision.

00:31:54.000 And also when you look at the history, you know, when we attacked the reactor in Iraq in the 80s, also it was made in Jerusalem, that decision.

00:32:03.000 Also when we attacked the reactor in Syria.

00:32:06.000 So I think, you know, not only the U.S., but many countries will thank Israel for what we did last night.

00:32:13.000 We took the initiative.

00:32:15.000 But, you know, you can hear even leaders from France and other countries saying that we had the right to defend ourselves.

00:32:21.000 It was a preemptive attack.

00:32:23.000 We didn't wait.

00:32:24.000 You know, you came to Israel many times after October 7th.

00:32:27.000 You saw the atrocities.

00:32:29.000 We learned the lesson.

00:32:30.000 We are not going to wait for Iran to have a nuclear bomb and attack us. 0.98

00:32:37.000 And in fact, Israel's attack came after an IAEA report this week suggesting that Iran was bucking all of its obligations under international law, developing nuclear weapons.

00:32:46.000 And apparently, as of this morning, Prime Minister Netanyahu held talks with world leaders, including world leaders with whom he's not particularly friendly, including the Prime Minister of France, Germany, India.

00:32:56.000 And there are more conversations expected soon.

00:32:59.000 Apparently, those leaders are expressing understanding for what Israel did, considering the nature of that IAEA report.

00:33:05.000 Absolutely.

00:33:06.000 And I would add to that.

00:33:08.000 You know, you have the IE report which talked about the uranium, that they have enough in which uranium to produce many bombs, not one, many bombs, two digits.

00:33:18.000 You look at the ballistic missiles.

00:33:20.000 They wanted to be at the same level of the US and Russia when it comes to the number of ballistic missiles.

00:33:25.000 So it was mass production.

00:33:26.000 And you look at the proxies.

00:33:28.000 They were preparing the proxies for another invasion into Israel. 0.60

00:33:32.000 So when you put all those three elements together, you realize that our intelligence was very strong.

00:33:38.000 And we decided not to wait, but to take the preemptive approach.

00:33:42.000 you So going forward, obviously, the IDF has talked about the possibility of heavier attacks over the course of coming weeks.

00:33:50.000 This is only the beginning.

00:33:51.000 Israel's dominance of the Iranian airspace is astonishing. 0.94

00:33:54.000 I mean, Israeli airplanes are refueling in the airspace over Iran and doing daylight raids.

00:34:00.000 I mean, essentially operating with impunity above the airspace in Iran.

00:34:03.000 How long do you expect the operations are going to last?

00:34:06.000 And when will Israel have achieved its strategic goals here?

00:34:10.000 Well, it just started a few hours ago.

00:34:13.000 It's not going to be a short operation.

00:34:14.000 I think it will require more efforts from our side.

00:34:18.000 It also depends on the retaliation from Iran into our civilian population.

00:34:24.000 But we are determined to finish the job.

00:34:27.000 You know, for years we heard the threats, and history has taught us to take very seriously radical regimes who threaten the Jewish people.

00:34:35.000 And as long as it takes, we are willing to pay the price.

00:34:38.000 The Israeli people, even though we are in the middle of a war in Gaza, the people are ready and committed to allow the government and the military to finish the job.

00:34:50.000 Ambassador Dennington, known Israel's ambassador to the UN, leading voice in the Likud party.

00:34:53.000 Really appreciate your time and your insight.

00:34:55.000 Thank you very much, Ben.

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00:36:09.000 Meanwhile, joining us on the line is Doron Spielman.

00:36:12.000 He, of course, is the former IDF International spokesperson, former VP of the City of David, and New York Times bestselling author of When the Stones Speak to give us more insight into the actual activities on the ground.

00:36:23.000 Doran, thanks so much for taking the time.

00:36:24.000 Appreciate it.

00:36:25.000 Thank you for having me, Ben, and good morning.

00:36:29.000 So, first of all, we've been taking a look at all of the fallout from the Israeli series of attacks last night, this morning.

00:36:37.000 It has continued into full daylight.

00:36:38.000 I think people need to understand.

00:36:40.000 From the Israeli perspective, from the military perspective, just how dominant this performance has been by the Israeli Air Force.

00:36:46.000 I mean, there's refueling going on over Iranian airspace of Israeli military jets.

00:36:53.000 Iran is effectively naked in the air right now. 0.96

00:36:56.000 How extensive is Israel's control of the airspace?

00:37:00.000 At this point, it's complete.

00:37:02.000 I mean, this is the most precision strike, not only in Israeli history, but in world history.

00:37:07.000 What you have here right now, it's incredible.

00:37:09.000 You have Israeli fighter jets that simultaneously took out the Iranian leadership.

00:37:14.000 You had an inside Mossad plan that took out the nuclear scientists.

00:37:19.000 And you had their ballistic missile facilities all go up in error in the And then Israelis were sent into their shelters before we knew anything, just to make sure that we woke up and knew that something was going on.

00:37:33.000 At this point in time, Ben, Iran is in our hands completely. 0.96

00:37:37.000 All we need is time to finish this.

00:37:39.000 And I see wave after wave taking place.

00:37:42.000 And the refueling, by the way, I'm seeing online, Syrians are filming the refueling over their heads. 0.75

00:37:48.000 I mean, this is happening over the skies of the Middle East.

00:37:52.000 So I think that folks need to understand the timeline here, that without the last year and a half of Israeli action in Lebanon, yes, in Gaza, against the Houthis, the fall of Syria, none of this is possible.

00:38:04.000 Israel spent a year and a half, the IDF and the IAF, destroying all of the various tentacles of the Iranian regime.

00:38:11.000 Iran, of course, entered into two rounds of fighting with Israel, where they fired two series of missiles at Israel ineffectually.

00:38:17.000 And then in the last round, Israel basically took out all of Iran's air defenses.

00:38:21.000 When we say that Israel has complete control over Iranian airspace, we have to understand that Iran is located 1,700 miles from Israel.

00:38:30.000 It is 2,500 kilometers from Israel.

00:38:33.000 And what that means is that all of the intervening airspace also has to be clear.

00:38:37.000 So what you're talking about here is the culmination of a sea change in Middle Eastern politics.

00:38:42.000 No question.

00:38:42.000 It's like a chessboard where the other person is 2,000 miles away from you, and they have put their pawns, they have their knights, and they have their king and queen.

00:38:50.000 The mistake that Iran made was they played their pawns. 0.98

00:38:53.000 We were hit by all their proxies.

00:38:54.000 They thought that they could destroy us.

00:38:56.000 Israel took out all the proxies.

00:38:57.000 Then came the middle range.

00:38:59.000 That was what was happening in October.

00:39:01.000 When they shot those ballistic missiles at us, we eliminated all the knights that are All that's left right now is the Ayatollah. 1.00

00:39:11.000 He's looking around, knocking on doors of the defense minister, gone.

00:39:14.000 Chief of Staff, gone.

00:39:16.000 Head of the Air Force, gone.

00:39:17.000 The replacement for the head of the Air Force, gone.

00:39:20.000 Israel right now has completely in the most genius move ever. 0.97

00:39:24.000 All you have left standing right now is the king, and he has no one else around.

00:39:27.000 He's the naked emperor right now.

00:39:31.000 I think that that last point is really important because there are so many foes of Israel, and I think of the West, who have been suggesting that if Israel were to take this sort of action, it would lead to a widespread war or regional war or a massive conflagration, not understanding the reality, which is that the only way that anything would lead to a conflagration, a serious regional conflagration with Iran, it's if Iran got a nuclear weapon.

00:39:52.000 Because right now, Iran was essentially naked and alone.

00:39:55.000 They had been defanged.

00:39:57.000 All of their forward operating bases had essentially been destroyed or degraded to the point where nothing could happen.

00:40:03.000 And so no one is coming to Iran's rescue. 0.86

00:40:04.000 China is not coming to Iran's rescue.

00:40:06.000 Russia is not coming to Iran's rescue.

00:40:08.000 The Arab states are celebrating.

00:40:09.000 Despite the kind of crocodile statement from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, no one is happier today than Mohammed bin Salman to watch as Israel absolutely devastates Iran's nuclear capacity and military capacity. 0.70

00:40:21.000 Again, this, I think, was the driving force.

00:40:24.000 Because the question I think a lot of folks have is, why now?

00:40:26.000 Why not six months ago?

00:40:28.000 Why not six months in the future?

00:40:29.000 How immediate was the threat?

00:40:31.000 What is your understanding of why Israel decided that now was the moment to go?

00:40:35.000 I think that we're about to lose our visibility.

00:40:38.000 And people have to understand this about intelligence.

00:40:40.000 People kind of are addicted to movies.

00:40:42.000 They think that you're inside the room.

00:40:44.000 I mean, sometimes we are, but usually intelligence, you're triangulating from a number of different sources when your enemy is so close.

00:40:51.000 To developing a nuclear weapon.

00:40:53.000 And they have enriched the uranium.

00:40:54.000 They've ordered the refueling from China.

00:40:57.000 It's about to land on the port.

00:40:58.000 Israel is about to be blocked out.

00:41:00.000 And what they do behind a few doors, they could come out tomorrow and they would have 9 or 15 atomic bombs. 0.63

00:41:06.000 And it's interesting.

00:41:07.000 I was on a news interview with a left-wing news interview.

00:41:11.000 And they said, well, how do you know that this is actually working?

00:41:14.000 And my answer is very simple.

00:41:15.000 Because when they responded.

00:41:16.000 They're responding with UAVs and not with an atomic weapon.

00:41:20.000 Had this taken place in another month, Ben, or number three months?

00:41:23.000 By the way, it's not only Israel.

00:41:25.000 The first people that they would probably warn would be the United States.

00:41:29.000 It's much easier to hit a U.S. base in Syria, where they're left open, or in Iraq.

00:41:33.000 And can you imagine the U.S. if there was a nuclear threat against their army personnel in this area?

00:41:38.000 So by striking now Israel, it's not only precise, it sends a very, very clear message. 0.66

00:41:45.000 So, meanwhile, there was a lot of consternation, a lot of heartburn over the relationship between the United States and Israel leading up to this attack.

00:41:53.000 Obviously, President Trump had stated very clearly that he wanted negotiations.

00:41:56.000 Steve Whitcoff, the special envoy, have been engaged in negotiations with Iran.

00:41:59.000 It appears from all available information that over the course of the last couple of weeks, the United States came to the They had no intention of giving up their nuclear program.

00:42:10.000 The IAEA report that came out a little bit earlier this week saying that Iran was already cheating on its nuclear obligations may have been sort of the death knell of any real negotiation.

00:42:19.000 What do you think was the level of coordination here?

00:42:21.000 Obviously, you have a bit of conflicting information.

00:42:23.000 The Secretary of State Marco Rubio made a statement that Israel acted on its own.

00:42:27.000 And then President Trump suggested that there was, in fact, advanced knowledge of the attacks and that it was connected with the American negotiating strategy.

00:42:34.000 What do you think is the truth about the levels of actual knowledge by the United States, coordination, and why was it done this way?

00:42:43.000 I don't think that there's any daylight between the U.S. and Israel.

00:42:46.000 I really don't, Ben.

00:42:47.000 And I think that Israel, yes, we wanted to attack a couple months ago. 1.00

00:42:50.000 President Trump said, I'm going to exhaust my diplomatic solution.

00:42:54.000 He just posted on Truth Social a few minutes ago that he gave them 60 days to negotiate, and today is the 61st day.

00:43:02.000 And because they made that mistake, Those same people won't be coming back to the negotiation table because they've been sent up to meet their maker, who I don't think is very happy with them at this point in time.

00:43:11.000 But in any case, that's what we're looking at.

00:43:14.000 We're looking at the Israel understood this.

00:43:15.000 Now that we've struck, in my opinion, again, I don't have absolute verification for this.

00:43:20.000 I know, or it's been reported, that the cabinet meeting last night was to create a ruse so that Iran would think that Israel is still debating about this, while at the same time, our jets were already on their way.

00:43:32.000 And I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S. words that have been coming out the last few days were very reserved in order to help our enemies go to sleep.

00:43:40.000 Let's keep in mind, the people that we took out, the 76 major commanders and their seconds we took out, they were all struck in their homes, except for one small group.

00:43:50.000 I mean, they were sleeping.

00:43:51.000 They were completely taken by surprise, except one aerial group, which means the ruse worked.

00:43:58.000 So, Daron, one of the things that we were talking about off-air briefly, You were suggesting that the internet around Iran was essentially taken out, that Iran's communications capacity has been dramatically degraded.

00:44:10.000 Talk about that a little bit.

00:44:11.000 Even I, before this went out, was contacted by somebody by Iran on my WhatsApp saying, go Israel.

00:44:17.000 I have it in my WhatsApp.

00:44:19.000 Iranians have been sending as much information as they can to Israel, Israeli news stations.

00:44:24.000 Undercover cameras have been taking place over the last few months showing what's happening inside of Iran.

00:44:28.000 The Iranian people, after Israel, they're the happiest people in the world.

00:44:32.000 And when you know that Iran takes down their internet, the national IRGC is for one reason.

00:44:37.000 They don't want the Iranian people to be able to send a message to the world, we're happy. 1.00

00:44:43.000 Continue, let Israel continue what they're doing. 0.93

00:44:45.000 We want to be free of this terror.

00:44:47.000 It's the last ditch of control.

00:44:48.000 And I think, Ben, if you ask me, I mean, Israel were the size of my fingernail, right? 1.00

00:44:54.000 The rest of the world needs to see this.

00:44:56.000 They threatened Israel. 0.96

00:44:57.000 We took them out.

00:44:58.000 We've disabled the regime.

00:45:00.000 There's no nukes.

00:45:01.000 It is time for the world to go in and replace this regime for the Iranian people. 1.00

00:45:06.000 And so, you know, can you imagine?

00:45:08.000 Can anyone listening to this now imagine waking up one morning and saying, wow, Iran is no longer a threat? 0.96

00:45:13.000 That is right now in our hands.

00:45:16.000 The question is, is the world going to follow up on what Israel's doing bravely and courageously and pretty much alone?

00:45:23.000 Well, I mean, it looks like that is going to have to be initiated from within Iran. 0.67

00:45:26.000 And the Iranian people have tried this multiple times before, but the regime has literally never been weaker than it is right now.

00:45:32.000 Iran, for its part, is suggesting massive retaliation against Israel.

00:45:36.000 Obviously, Israel is prepared for this. 0.91

00:45:38.000 Israel's been preparing for this for months, if not years, at this point.

00:45:42.000 So far, there have been a few desultory drone attacks from Iran.

00:45:46.000 There were expectations that there would be, at least by this point, significant missile barrages coming the other way from Iran.

00:45:52.000 But it appears that one of the things that the Israeli Air Force did was take out a huge cache of ballistic missiles that Iran was preparing to shoot surface to surface against Israel.

00:46:03.000 No question.

00:46:03.000 We took out the missiles and we also took out the command and control structure.

00:46:08.000 Right now, I mean, it's hilarious.

00:46:10.000 If you look at the Ayatollah very, very quickly, put people in to replace these people that have not nearly the same level of experience.

00:46:17.000 There's no one there calling the shots right now.

00:46:19.000 This is not Hamas, a little ragtag regime of fighters that know how to break off and splinter and fight.

00:46:25.000 Iran is an army that have lost the head of the army, their chief of staff, the head of their air force.

00:46:31.000 There's no one calling the shots right now.

00:46:33.000 They can't even pick up the pieces.

00:46:34.000 And by the way, we are getting more and more reports that the initial The attack that we made on the Natanz nuclear site has now been followed up by additional attacks.

00:46:42.000 Every hour, we're getting more and more reports that Israel's just moving through.

00:46:45.000 And so, therefore, I think there will be a response.

00:46:48.000 I don't think it's going to create the kind of damage that Iran would like it to do, but he has to show some sign of force in the coming days. 0.91

00:46:55.000 But, you know, for the Iranian people, to your point, you know, they're going to rise up.

00:47:00.000 But if the world doesn't meet them halfway, the one thing Iran has been is they have guns. 0.96

00:47:04.000 And they will simply shoot down those people in the streets.

00:47:06.000 They've got to be airdropped weapons.

00:47:08.000 And again, the world has to be courageous.

00:47:10.000 You know, we're the Jews.

00:47:12.000 We were in the ghetto for 2,000 years.

00:47:13.000 We hid it.

00:47:14.000 Now we know we can't hide.

00:47:15.000 We have to fight, so we fight.

00:47:17.000 The world cannot hide.

00:47:18.000 You might think you can hide.

00:47:20.000 You cannot hide.

00:47:21.000 Take out this enemy right now.

00:47:22.000 Be brave.

00:47:23.000 Be courageous.

00:47:24.000 And then we can actually see the bright side of another day on this.

00:47:29.000 Well, that is Daron Spielman.

00:47:30.000 Check out his brand new book, When the Stones Speak, New York Times bestseller.

00:47:33.000 He's the former vice president of the city of David.

00:47:35.000 Daron, thanks so much for your time and your insight.

00:47:38.000 Thank you so much, Ben.

00:47:40.000 Now, meanwhile, as we say, President Trump has been urging the Iranian government to come back to the negotiating table saying, guys, like, I warned you.

00:47:46.000 I warned you.

00:47:47.000 I mean, he's literally saying this on Truth Social.

00:47:48.000 I warned you.

00:47:49.000 I gave you two months. 0.99

00:47:50.000 You guys kept screwing around.

00:47:52.000 You kept saying that you didn't want to give up your nuclear capacity. 0.65

00:47:54.000 And now this is what happens to you.

00:47:56.000 So, you know, you could theoretically come back to the table.

00:47:59.000 Iran has said no.

00:48:00.000 So according to The Hill, Iran no longer plans to engage in nuclear talks with the United States that were scheduled to take place in Oman on Sunday.

00:48:07.000 Oman News Agency and Iranian state media reported that the talks have been suspended indefinitely.

00:48:13.000 Oman Foreign Minister Badr Abu Saidi, who of course is a cutout for Iran, said Israel's unilateral attack on Iran is illegal, unjustifiable, and a grave threat to regional security and stability.

00:48:23.000 Again, the irony of Iranian proxies saying this.

00:48:26.000 I mean, these sorts of threats are continuously being made, obviously, all the time.

00:48:53.000 Now, the question is, what comes next?

00:48:55.000 There are questions as to whether the United States, given the fact that Iran has now pulled out and said that the negotiations are over, whether the United States, you know, there are a few options.

00:49:04.000 The United States could just let Israel continue doing the bombing raids. 0.51

00:49:06.000 It's not like the United States is going to step in and stop Israel from doing that.

00:49:10.000 And Israel has every intention of going forward regardless. 0.69

00:49:12.000 There's also the possibility that some of these bunkers are incredibly deep in America.

00:49:17.000 You know, flies one raid over some of these bunkers and knocks out a couple of the nuclear facilities wholesale with a B-2 or a B-52.

00:49:24.000 And I think that that is significantly less likely.

00:49:26.000 And the tactic that the administration has taken, which is arguable but justifiable, is that if Israel acts alone, then Iran will be less likely to attack American military personnel in the region, knowing that if they were to do that and draw America in, America would go absolutely ape bleep and just eviscerate the Iranian oil fields. 0.56

00:49:48.000 And we'll have to see what Iran's response is.

00:49:51.000 So far, it has been not even lackluster.

00:49:53.000 Lackluster would be too strong a word for the Iranian response thus far.

00:49:56.000 They've sent a few disultory drones toward Israel that were shot down.

00:50:00.000 Their missile capacity seems to have been wildly degraded by the Israelis at this point. 0.94

00:50:06.000 And so again, we'll have to wait to see what the weekend brings.

00:50:08.000 Suffice it to say, the sort of insane suggestion that there was going to be a broader World War III level event led off by Israel. 0.74

00:50:21.000 That was not going to be a thing.

00:50:44.000 So, obviously, we'll keep an eye on all this.

00:50:47.000 Meanwhile, In news closer to home, yesterday, the big conflagration of the day.

00:50:52.000 And this guy must be super sad.

00:50:54.000 Senator Alex Padilla of California.

00:50:55.000 He must be having the worst day ever because yesterday was his big moment, his moment to shine.

00:51:01.000 So there was a press conference held by Kristi Noem, the Secretary of Homeland Security, to talk about the fact that there were, in fact, federal forces working in Los Angeles to quell rioting.

00:51:09.000 And Senator Alex Padilla, no one knows his name and no one knows who he is.

00:51:13.000 He decided it would be an amazing job to simply charge into The middle of this press conference.

00:51:19.000 And again, she wasn't taking questions.

00:51:20.000 There are no outsiders in the room.

00:51:21.000 And he's so anonymous that security did not recognize him.

00:51:24.000 And so he was pushed out of the room while shouting at Kristi Noem.

00:51:27.000 And this, of course, was a grandstanding attempt to get attention because the entire Democratic Party is now about getting attention.

00:51:33.000 The entire Democratic Party is now about grandstanding. 0.96

00:51:36.000 So Senator Alex Pedia thought he was going to have himself a day and then Israel attacked Iran, relegating the schmuck to the back pages of the newspapers. 0.94

00:51:43.000 In any case, here's the video of what happened. 0.95

00:51:47.000 I have a question for the secretary, because the fact of the matter is a half a dozen criminals that you're rotating on your hands off!

00:52:03.000 And then he says, hands off, and he starts to resist the agents who are pushing him out of the room, at which point they put him on the ground and they handcuff him.

00:52:10.000 And this is the end of the world, according to the left.

00:52:13.000 According to the left, this is fascism in action is when you When you barge into a press conference with the Secretary of Homeland Security and start making your way up toward the front while yelling at her, and then you are pushed out by security, this is the end of the world.

00:52:31.000 Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, explain exactly what happened.

00:52:36.000 We were conducting a press conference to update everyone on the enforcement actions that are ongoing to bring peace to the city of Los Angeles.

00:52:43.000 And this man burst into the room, started lunging towards the podium, interrupting me and elevating his voice, and was stopped, did not identify himself, and was removed from the room.

00:52:55.000 So as soon as he identified himself, appropriate actions were taken.

00:52:59.000 But I would say that I had a conversation with the senator after this.

00:53:03.000 We sat down for 10 to 15 minutes and talked about the fact that nobody knew who he was.

00:53:08.000 He didn't say who he was until he was already had been lunging forward and people were trying to detain him for quite a period of time.

00:53:15.000 And that this, you know, we're leaders, we're public servants.

00:53:18.000 And if he had requested a meeting, I would have loved to have sat down and had a conversation with him.

00:53:23.000 That coming into a press conference like this as political theater, it's wrong and it does a disservice to this country and the people who live here. 0.84

00:53:30.000 Thank you.

00:53:31.000 Of course, Kristi Noem is correct about this.

00:53:33.000 Homeland Security released a tweet saying, quote, Senator Padilla chose disrespectful political theater and interrupted a live press conference.

00:53:39.000 Without identifying himself or having his Senate security pin on as he lunged toward Secretary Noem.

00:53:44.000 Mr. Padilla was told repeatedly to back away and did not comply with officers' repeated commands.

00:53:48.000 Secret Service thought he was an attacker.

00:53:50.000 Officers acted appropriately.

00:53:51.000 Secretary Noem met with Senator Padilla after and held a 15-minute meeting.

00:53:55.000 Okay, so nothing bad happened here. 0.99

00:53:57.000 It's all performative stupidity by Democrats attempting to gain a headline. 1.00

00:54:01.000 It accomplished nothing. 1.00

00:54:02.000 It's unbelievably stupid. 1.00

00:54:03.000 If, in fact, he wanted to have a conversation with Kristi Noem, he could have just picked up the phone. 1.00

00:54:08.000 That's all.

00:54:09.000 Well, according to Democrats, this is the end of democracy in America.

00:54:12.000 Democracy is now over.

00:54:13.000 Senator Cory Booker put on his angry eyes, Mr. Potato Head, and decided to scream some more because he also needs attention.

00:54:19.000 And if you start seeing Democrats as five-year-olds in desperate need of attention, then it all begins to make sense.

00:54:24.000 Here's Senator Cory Booker popping the angry eyes and going crazy.

00:54:29.000 Here we go.

00:54:31.000 If you can make Alex Padilla forcibly kneel before this executive, when does it stop?

00:54:38.000 He's a United States senator.

00:54:40.000 And if you can force him to kneel to his knees violently, when does it stop?

00:54:46.000 When does it stop?

00:54:48.000 No!

00:54:49.000 My God!

00:54:50.000 You're ah!

00:54:51.000 No!

00:54:52.000 Okay, so I'm just going to point out that he being cray, being super cray, has nothing happened. 0.58

00:54:58.000 Padilla went in.

00:55:00.000 No one knew who he was.

00:55:01.000 Listen, if Alex Padilla walked down a street near you, you would have no idea who he is.

00:55:06.000 He is not among the 75 most well-known American senators, and he's from California, the most populous American state.

00:55:12.000 He is an absolute non-entity, Alex Padilla.

00:55:15.000 You would not know him from Adam.

00:55:17.000 You wouldn't.

00:55:17.000 And neither did security.

00:55:18.000 So they did what they are supposed to do.

00:55:20.000 But according to Chuck Schumer, this was the end of the American Republic. 0.99

00:55:25.000 Guys, this crap ain't gonna play. 0.99

00:55:27.000 It just ain't. 0.99

00:55:28.000 If this is the best you got, you are toast.

00:55:31.000 Mr. President, I just saw something that sickened my stomach.

00:55:35.000 The manhandling of a United States senator.

00:55:38.000 We need immediate answers to what the hell went on.

00:55:45.000 What the hell?

00:55:47.000 We need answers. 0.85

00:55:48.000 So many.

00:55:49.000 And it was the entire Democratic Party.

00:55:51.000 They have found their rallying point.

00:55:52.000 Their rallying point is a middle-aged senator being pushed out of a room, handcuffed, and then released within like, Speaker of the House, former Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, put in her dentures and she said, this assault is not only on Senator Alex Padilla, but on freedom of speech and expression in our country.

00:56:13.000 These actions taken by Trump's DHS communicates a message to all Americans that none of us is safe.

00:56:20.000 I'm just going to point out all of us are safe.

00:56:22.000 We're fine.

00:56:23.000 When was the last time you decided to crash the Secretary of Homeland Security's press conference while yelling at her without wearing any sort of identifying?

00:56:30.000 Insignia.

00:56:31.000 At all.

00:56:32.000 But don't worry.

00:56:33.000 This is the moment when the resistance came together.

00:56:36.000 Or not.

00:56:37.000 Or not.

00:56:39.000 Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman said, absolutely unacceptable.

00:56:41.000 This is outrageous behavior.

00:56:44.000 Assaulting a sitting U.S. Senator in public on camera.

00:56:46.000 Imagine how they treat everyday folks in the dark of night.

00:56:49.000 Federal agents are not above the law.

00:56:54.000 Um, yeah, whatever, man.

00:56:56.000 Meanwhile, Ro Khanna, representative from California, he said, A United States senator seeking clarification from a cabinet secretary should not be assaulted or treated like this.

00:57:05.000 Well, I mean, that seems like not a good description of what you just saw on that tape.

00:57:09.000 That did not seem like seeking clarification.

00:57:11.000 Seeking clarification is where you say, pardon, madam, but what did you mean by X?

00:57:16.000 Not Hulk breakthrough wall.

00:57:19.000 Kool-Aid man.

00:57:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:21.000 Senator Alex Padilla.

00:57:22.000 Like, really?

00:57:24.000 But Alex Padilla himself had the final word.

00:57:27.000 He wants money.

00:57:30.000 It's a fundraising pitch.

00:57:31.000 Who could have predicted?

00:57:34.000 So I had the audacity to try to ask a question.

00:57:39.000 I introduced myself, Senator Alex Balia, and I have a question.

00:57:44.000 And it took all of maybe a second for multiple agents to forcibly remove me from the room, to pin me on the ground and handcuff me.

00:57:58.000 Now, I'm okay for people who are wondering how I'm doing.

00:58:01.000 I'm okay.

00:58:02.000 But the big lesson here is if they can do that to me, if they're willing to do that to me, a United States senator with a question doing my job on behalf of the people of California and our country, what are they doing to a lot of the folks that are out there when the cameras are not on?

00:58:22.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:58:23.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:58:25.000 They're not bringing their best, folks.

00:58:26.000 They're not sending.

00:58:27.000 They're best.

00:58:28.000 But again, it is all about the posturing for the Democrats these days because they ain't got nothing.

00:58:33.000 They really don't.

00:58:34.000 Their points of differentiation with the Trump administration are so weak.

00:58:37.000 And on most of them, they happen to be in the wrong with the American people.

00:58:41.000 So this is what every representative is now going to do.

00:58:44.000 There's a representative named Salud Carbajo who's questioning the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth.

00:58:49.000 And again, it's all just posturing.

00:58:51.000 It's all prima donna nonsense.

00:58:53.000 This was in Congress yesterday.

00:58:56.000 Do you think political allegiance to Trump is a requirement for serving our nation, either in uniform or a civilian in the department?

00:59:04.000 I'm incredibly proud, as are millions of Americans...

00:59:10.000 Not today, Seth.

00:59:12.000 Yes or no? 0.95

00:59:14.000 Congressman, you know what a silly question that is. 0.95

00:59:16.000 But silly enough to warrant a very straightforward answer. 0.97

00:59:20.000 Yes or no? 0.78

00:59:22.000 We all support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

00:59:25.000 You know what?

00:59:25.000 I'm not going to waste my time anymore.

00:59:27.000 You're not worthy of my attention or my questions. 1.00

00:59:30.000 You're an embarrassment to this country. 1.00

00:59:32.000 You're unfit to lead. 0.98

00:59:34.000 And there's been bipartisan members of Congress that have called for your resignation.

00:59:39.000 You should just get the hell out and let somebody competently lead this department.

00:59:45.000 Mr. Chairman, do we not have any decorum in here?

00:59:49.000 Thank you very much.

00:59:50.000 I yield my time.

00:59:52.000 This is horrible.

00:59:56.000 No, no, no.

00:59:58.000 The posturing.

00:59:59.000 Yeah, now you're slightly more famous.

01:00:01.000 No one had heard of you before.

01:00:02.000 Now people who listen to the show may have heard of Salud Carbajal, but that's about it.

01:00:06.000 And I think that Secretary Hegseth's response is indeed quite proper, which is just laughter.

01:00:11.000 Meanwhile, Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado felt the necessity to scream at somebody.

01:00:15.000 Again, Democrats have been relegated to, what if we just scream?

01:00:18.000 They've all turned into the meme from 2016 of that rather overweight woman in the glasses and the beret screaming into the ether because President Trump won.

01:00:28.000 That's what they've been reduced to.

01:00:29.000 They're just screaming at people now.

01:00:30.000 Here's Senator Michael Bennett screaming at Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, to his bemusement.

01:00:36.000 We did not get here.

01:00:38.000 We inherited this fiscal situation that I believe...

01:00:46.000 You did, Mr. Besson.

01:00:48.000 No, sir.

01:00:49.000 Yes, you did, Mr. Besson.

01:00:50.000 You inherited from Donald Trump.

01:00:52.000 He's the first president to come back after a four-year hiatus, after we know exactly what the last tax cuts did, which was blow a massive hole.

01:01:05.000 In our deficit and debt.

01:01:06.000 You can't sit here and lie about that.

01:01:09.000 It's true.

01:01:10.000 The data, to coin a phrase, the data shows that that's result.

01:01:16.000 The math shows that that is the result.

01:01:19.000 No one on this side of the aisle admits anymore or claims anymore that they didn't blow a huge hole in the deficit.

01:01:28.000 They did.

01:01:29.000 And now you're here saying to the American people, let's double down on that.

01:01:36.000 Oh, the screaming. 0.61

01:01:37.000 Oh, the yelling.

01:01:38.000 Oh, the pontificating.

01:01:40.000 Honestly, you want a better Congress?

01:01:41.000 Take the cameras out of the hearing rooms.

01:01:42.000 Seriously.

01:01:43.000 I mean, listen, they're fun.

01:01:44.000 I've gone to my share of hearings where I've owned some Congress people.

01:01:47.000 You can view all those online.

01:01:48.000 They're fun.

01:01:49.000 But I'm not sure that the cameras have been amazing for the American body politic because it's just a way for all these legislators to read their little speeches and then grandstand as much as possible.

01:01:59.000 But the reality is, when it comes down to what democratic policy is on key issues of the day, they are just out of touch with the American people.

01:02:05.000 So yesterday, an astonishing exchange between a member of the L.A. City Council named Imelda Padilla talking to the LAPD chief, a guy named Jim McDonald.

01:02:14.000 And she literally asked the head of the LAPD to violate federal law. 1.00

01:02:17.000 What can your department do to do more to warn us, to warn the business community that outside of our L.A. borders, coming in from Inglewood, coming in from.

01:02:28.000 I don't know, Valley.

01:02:29.000 I don't know.

01:02:30.000 You can warn us so that we can warn our folks in the spirit of your loyalty to the city of Los Angeles.

01:02:39.000 So you're asking me to warn you about an enforcement action being taken by another agency before it happens?

01:02:45.000 Yeah.

01:02:46.000 Yeah, we can't do that.

01:02:47.000 Why not?

01:02:48.000 That would be obstruction of justice.

01:02:49.000 You may want to talk to the city attorney about that.

01:02:56.000 Oh, boy.

01:02:58.000 Oh, boy.

01:02:58.000 But this is what they would like.

01:02:59.000 This is what many Democrats would like, is for the LAPD to be told to actively violate the law, and then they would be arrested by the members of the federal government.

01:03:07.000 Well, Democrats were trying to claim a victory lap yesterday based on President Trump's statement online regarding his immigration policy.

01:03:15.000 So President Trump put out a statement yesterday, quote, Our great farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good longtime workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace. 0.87

01:03:27.000 In many cases, the criminals allowed into our country by the very stupid Biden open borders policy are applying for those jobs. 0.76

01:03:32.000 This is not good. 0.99

01:03:33.000 We must protect our farmers, but get the criminals out of the United States.

01:03:36.000 Changes are coming.

01:03:38.000 So this led Gavin Newsom to triumphantly announce that he was victorious.

01:03:44.000 That now that President Trump has said that he is not going to deport a bunch of migrant farm workers or members of the leisure and hospitality business who are illegal immigrants.

01:03:54.000 Gavin Newsom put out a statement, turns out chasing hardworking people through ranches and farms and snatching women and children off the streets is not good policy.

01:04:00.000 Well, cool, because that wasn't the policy.

01:04:02.000 It actually was never the policy.

01:04:05.000 Now, President Trump has moved the Overton window dramatically on illegal immigration.

01:04:09.000 Dramatically.

01:04:11.000 No one who watches this issue thought, truly speaking, that President Trump was going to deport all 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

01:04:18.000 President Trump likes to talk about absolutes because that is the language of politics.

01:04:23.000 He understands people get that language.

01:04:25.000 We're going to deport everybody.

01:04:26.000 But in reality, everyone who watches the policy knew that President Trump, as a pragmatist, was never going to spend what it would cost to deport 20 million people.

01:04:35.000 You're talking on the order of somewhere between $600 and $800 billion just to do those deportations.

01:04:42.000 President Trump was never going to do that, which is why he so far has been focusing on criminal illegal immigrants.

01:04:47.000 But because Trump said that he's not going to focus on, say, farm workers and leisure and hospitality workers, Now Gavin Newsom is trying to claim victory.

01:04:54.000 Well, the truth is that Gavin Newsom is now playing in Donald Trump's sandbox.

01:04:58.000 I'll explain in a moment.

01:05:00.000 So just moments ago, Donald Trump made a major reversal in his mass deportation policy.

01:05:06.000 Indiscriminately, he's been sending armed agents into farms and fields and ranches all throughout California and increasingly across the country.

01:05:15.000 I was in Oxnard, California yesterday.

01:05:17.000 I met with a 12-year-old boy.

01:05:21.000 Tears pouring down his face.

01:05:23.000 His mom and dad snatched by agents.

01:05:26.000 They were working the fields for over 20 years.

01:05:29.000 He doesn't know where they are.

01:05:30.000 He has no family in the United States.

01:05:33.000 He's here alone as sixth grader.

01:05:36.000 Donald Trump may not care about him, but he's finally listening to you calling out these indiscriminate acts of cruelty.

01:05:45.000 Let's keep up the pressure and let's do it peacefully.

01:05:49.000 So again, Gavin Newsom is now claiming the Democrats in the streets being jacked forced President Trump off the point here.

01:05:56.000 The notion that President Trump was ever going to start deporting en masse hospitality workers who are illegal immigrants or farm workers who are illegal immigrants, that's fantasy.

01:06:05.000 It is.

01:06:05.000 President Trump has said that before.

01:06:07.000 And President Trump himself has talked about the dependence of so many industries upon illegal.

01:06:12.000 Now, again, you can make a very strong case, and I have colleagues who do, that it would be beneficial for the United States to deport everyone.

01:06:19.000 But in a realistic, pragmatic way, that was never going to be the case.

01:06:24.000 Ever.

01:06:25.000 And here's where Gavin Newsom is playing Donald Trump's sandbox.

01:06:28.000 Donald Trump has completely ended the conversation about the southern border.

01:06:32.000 That conversation is over.

01:06:33.000 It is closed.

01:06:34.000 Democrats lost.

01:06:35.000 Joe Biden opened that border wide.

01:06:36.000 Donald Trump closed it.

01:06:37.000 That is one of the signal victories in politics of my lifetime.

01:06:40.000 Truly, one of the great victories in the history of American politics is moving from completely open border to completely closed border in the space of one day.

01:06:47.000 Which is what President Trump did.

01:06:49.000 And you won't see Gavin Newsom advocating for an open border anymore.

01:06:52.000 Why?

01:06:52.000 Because he lost the argument.

01:06:54.000 Gavin Newsom's sanctuary city policies don't just protect farm workers or people working janitorial jobs.

01:07:02.000 They protect criminals.

01:07:03.000 President Trump won that debate.

01:07:05.000 And so, Gavin Newsom is forced to argue on the margins of the actual issue.

01:07:09.000 He's forced to argue on the most innocent illegal immigrants.

01:07:14.000 He can't actually argue to the heart of the issue.

01:07:16.000 I want to see Gavin Newsom, if he wants to win the ideological battle with Donald Trump, I want to see Gavin Newsom make the argument that the border ought to be open and that we ought not deport criminal illegal immigrants and that actual immigration enforcement overall is a bad thing because that's the argument being made in the streets.

01:07:30.000 That is not the argument that Gavin Newsom is making there.

01:07:33.000 Gavin Newsom is making the argument that you really shouldn't raid some sort of farm and pick up a dude who's picking the vegetables out of the ground.

01:07:41.000 And President Trump's like, okay, maybe that's true.

01:07:44.000 Sure, that's not top priority.

01:07:46.000 And Gavin Newsom's, ah, you conceded the point.

01:07:48.000 That's not where the argument was.

01:07:50.000 And the argument has moved so far in the direction of President Trump that Democrats are forced to tacitly admit he was right about shutting the border and that he is correct about supporting criminal illegal immigrants.

01:08:01.000 And if, by the way, if they want criminal illegal immigrants deported, then they might actually want to stop with their sanctuary city and sanctuary state policies.

01:08:08.000 So no, it's not a loss for President Trump.

01:08:10.000 It's not a big L for President Trump.

01:08:11.000 To say he's not deporting leisure and farm workers, that was not going to be a top priority for the administration ever, ever.

01:08:17.000 And when President Trump talked about mass deportations, he never meant 20 million people.

01:08:24.000 Again, I know there are people who disagree with me and get upset, but that's just the reality.

01:08:29.000 President Trump is a pragmatist.

01:08:31.000 He always was a pragmatist.

01:08:32.000 He is somebody who operates in the realm of reality, from Iran to the border.

01:08:36.000 That is what he does.

01:08:38.000 So, no.

01:08:39.000 I mean, I don't see Gavin Newsom winning any big victories over here.

01:08:42.000 Alrighty, folks.

01:08:43.000 The show continues for our members right now.

01:08:45.000 It turns out the left, they're going to have big rallies tomorrow, supposedly.

01:08:48.000 But how big are the rallies?

01:08:49.000 We'll get to that in a moment.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 13, 2025

IT’S HAPPENING: Israel WRECKS Iran

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