The Ben Shapiro Show - Liars, Damn Liars, And The Media | Ep. 699

00:00:00.000 BuzzFeed's big Trump scoop implodes, the media botch a hit on Christian high school students, and the media try to target me with selective editing.

00:00:07.000 This show is going to be lit today.

00:00:08.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:14.000 Well, for those who don't know, the term lit is something that the kids say these days.

00:00:17.000 It means that things are going to get hot.

00:00:19.000 I'm a little angry, a little angry over this weekend.

00:00:22.000 I have a few words to say about the media's awfulness, about their general inability to do anything remotely approaching telling the truth.

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00:01:36.000 So let me begin today's show by noting that the media are a flaming dumpster of hot garbage. 1.00

00:01:42.000 And the media are terrible at their damn jobs. 1.00

00:01:44.000 I mean, terrible at their jobs. 0.99

00:01:45.000 Because it turns out that many of them are not interested in being honest.

00:01:48.000 Now, this is not every member of the media.

00:01:50.000 There are some members of the media who I am sure are interested in being honest.

00:01:53.000 But for the media, it is all about jumping to conclusions, about creating the clickable piece, about ensuring that they are the first on a story, even if they are dead wrong on the story.

00:02:02.000 And we saw this over and over and over over the last 72 hours.

00:02:05.000 Multiple stories the media put out were outright false.

00:02:08.000 Outright false.

00:02:09.000 At the very least, they were biased, twisted, selectively edited.

00:02:14.000 I haven't seen a weekend this bad for the media in a long time. 0.95

00:02:17.000 And it's disgusting. 0.94

00:02:18.000 It's disgusting.

00:02:18.000 Because let's start with the March for Life, okay?

00:02:21.000 Not with me at the March for Life.

00:02:22.000 We'll get to that.

00:02:22.000 But let's start with the March for Life.

00:02:24.000 Here's what happened at the March for Life.

00:02:25.000 I was there on Friday, and there were hundreds of thousands of people there.

00:02:29.000 Some low-end estimates put it at, like, $150,000 to $200,000.

00:02:32.000 Some high-end estimates I heard had it at, like, $600,000.

00:02:35.000 Suffice it to say, you could not see the end of the crowd.

00:02:37.000 It was the biggest crowd I have personally ever seen.

00:02:39.000 It was unbelievably large.

00:02:41.000 The mood was positive.

00:02:42.000 People were excited.

00:02:44.000 People were uplifted.

00:02:45.000 People were upbeat.

00:02:46.000 It was an amazing, amazing event.

00:02:48.000 Did the media cover?

00:02:50.000 Any of that?

00:02:50.000 Did the media cover how amazing the event was?

00:02:52.000 The size of the crowd?

00:02:53.000 The incredible fact that hundreds of thousands of people showed up to defend the lives of the unborn in the middle of the winter?

00:03:00.000 With no pending legislation on the table?

00:03:03.000 Did the media bother to cover any of the actual amazing things about the Martial Life?

00:03:06.000 No.

00:03:07.000 They manufactured stories deliberately so they would not have to talk about that.

00:03:10.000 Instead, they have a narrative that they have preconceived and that they are going to bang into the ground. 0.98

00:03:15.000 And that narrative is that pro-lifers are evil, That people who are white are evil? 0.99

00:03:19.000 That people who are Christian are evil? 1.00

00:03:21.000 This is the narrative, and they are going to hit that narrative as hard as they can over and over and over, and it doesn't matter who gets stuck in the crossfire.

00:03:27.000 It doesn't matter whether it is a bunch of Christian high school students.

00:03:30.000 So, late on Friday afternoon, as Sabbath is falling, I start seeing online there's some talk about Covington High School, which is a Catholic high school.

00:03:41.000 Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky.

00:03:44.000 And I don't really pay much attention to it.

00:03:45.000 It's about to be Sabbath.

00:03:46.000 It's been a really long day with a lot of mixed emotions, as we'll get to in a little while.

00:03:50.000 And I kind of sign off for Sabbath.

00:03:52.000 I come back on on Saturday night and the world is lit.

00:03:54.000 The world is on fire.

00:03:56.000 Why?

00:03:56.000 Because they're saying that these kids from Covington Catholic High School were harassing a Native American man.

00:04:02.000 And the reason they're saying this is because the Native American man went on national TV and lied about it.

00:04:05.000 Because he said that these kids surrounded him and tried to intimidate him, and that he was there defending a group of black Israelites, which is to say a cult that exists in New York City mostly.

00:04:16.000 They call themselves offspring of the Jews, but they really have nothing to do with Judaism.

00:04:21.000 It's a cultish, vegan, weird thing.

00:04:24.000 Anyway.

00:04:25.000 These folks showed up and they started harassing the high school students in reality.

00:04:28.000 But the way that this guy portrayed it on national TV was that the high school students, these white high school students, some of whom were wearing MAGA hats, were supposedly harassing the black Israelites.

00:04:36.000 And then this guy stepped in and defended them.

00:04:38.000 And for that, he was basically intimidated.

00:04:39.000 And he's an older Native American guy.

00:04:42.000 I think he's in his 70s.

00:04:43.000 And he'd served in World War II.

00:04:45.000 And so the media treated him with all sorts of respect.

00:04:47.000 So here's the original video.

00:04:48.000 We're going to start from the very beginning.

00:04:49.000 Here's the original video that the media put out of this confrontation.

00:04:53.000 The original video is cut from a two hour long tape. 0.99

00:04:57.000 The two hour long tape, as we will talk about, shows the precise reverse of what the media said happened because they're damn liars. 0.99

00:05:04.000 Because they are damn liars and they knew full well they should wait for the full story to come out and they did not wait for the full story to come out. 0.99

00:05:10.000 There were a lot of people on the right. 1.00

00:05:12.000 Some people I'm friends with who jumped on this and started talking about how the kids were guilty.

00:05:17.000 And I can only get upset with them a little bit because the fact is that they were assuming good faith on the part of the media.

00:05:22.000 That is always a mistake, as was reiterated to us over the last weekend.

00:05:25.000 You cannot grant... You wonder why President Trump is popular when he says the media suck at their jobs? 0.97

00:05:31.000 It's because they do suck at their jobs. 0.99

00:05:33.000 Hey, their pre-existing suckage was there long before President Trump came along. 0.99

00:05:38.000 You want to know why so many people in the middle of the country resonate to President Trump when he rips on the media?

00:05:42.000 Because they deserve every last iota of it for coverage like this.

00:05:45.000 So here's the original video that was put out by members of the media, and there were headlines across the board.

00:05:49.000 First of all, let me just say this.

00:05:51.000 This is not a national news story.

00:05:53.000 No violence was done to this guy.

00:05:55.000 There was no physical harm.

00:05:57.000 Even if the media had told it the way that it actually happened, that's not a national news story. 0.98

00:06:01.000 It's a bunch of high schoolers acting like jerk-offs. 0.99

00:06:05.000 Last time I checked, high schoolers acting like jerk-offs is not a national news story. 0.98

00:06:08.000 But in any case, even assume that the media are telling the truth, it's not national.

00:06:14.000 But here is the video they showed, and it turns out this is wildly out of context, as we will see.

00:06:18.000 So here is the original video they show that's supposed to tell the whole story about these evil white high school students wearing MAGA hats, mocking, laughing at this Native American guy surrounding him and harassing him.

00:06:30.000 So if you can't see this, there's a guy standing in the middle of the crowd and he's banging on a drum.

00:06:33.000 And the kids are chanting along with him.

00:06:36.000 And it looks like they're mocking him.

00:06:37.000 And there's one kid who's standing directly in front of him.

00:06:39.000 And he's just kind of smiling awkwardly.

00:06:43.000 And some of the kids are laughing and videotaping.

00:06:51.000 Okay, and it looks bad.

00:06:52.000 Like, on the face of it, it looks like these kids are mocking the guy, or they're attempting to laugh at the guy, or something like that.

00:06:58.000 Okay?

00:06:59.000 And everybody goes nuts.

00:07:00.000 How could they do this?

00:07:01.000 First of all, nothing bad happened to the guy.

00:07:02.000 There was no violence done to the guy.

00:07:05.000 We're really now going to punish, not at school, like you suspend the kid at school if he does something like this, but we're going to, in national media, dox these kids for something like that.

00:07:13.000 So here is the reaction, the reaction to just the video alone.

00:07:18.000 The reaction to just the video alone is Reza Aslan of CNN.

00:07:24.000 He tweets out, honest question, have you ever seen a more punchable face than this kid's?

00:07:29.000 This kid's like 16 years old, he's literally standing there.

00:07:32.000 Literally standing there, smiling a little bit.

00:07:34.000 Because it's an awkward situation.

00:07:36.000 How would you feel if there was a guy banging a drum in your face? 0.82

00:07:39.000 Reza Aslan says, this kid's face is punchable.

00:07:42.000 How delightful.

00:07:43.000 How delightful.

00:07:45.000 And then Howard Dean tweeted out this.

00:07:47.000 The former head of the DNC, Covington Catholic High School seems like a hate factory to me.

00:07:51.000 Why not just close it?

00:07:52.000 Check out this thread.

00:07:54.000 A hate factory?

00:07:56.000 A hate factory?

00:07:58.000 Now, let me just say, I do not think that it is any coincidence that on the same weekend the media decided to go after Karen Pence for teaching at a Christian school, that the former head of the DNC is suggesting that Christian schools should be shut down as hate factories.

00:08:12.000 That's not a coincidence.

00:08:13.000 In the media, the far left in this country, the increasing mainstream of the Democratic Party, they hate religious people, hate them with a passion.

00:08:21.000 If this were just a normal high school, not a Catholic high school, you think Howard Dean reacts quite the same way?

00:08:26.000 Okay, then, there's this reporter.

00:08:28.000 A reporter for Huffington Post.

00:08:30.000 Which, Huffington Post, again, is just a manure pile of journalism.

00:08:35.000 They don't even attempt to do journalism.

00:08:36.000 They just, they're moveon.org under another name.

00:08:40.000 So the guy's name is Christopher Mathias, and he puts up a photo of this kid, smiling, next to a photo of white kids pouring drinks and ketchup on lunch counter protesters in Birmingham in 1960.

00:08:53.000 As though these are equivalent in any way.

00:08:54.000 So this kid is now a segregationist.

00:08:56.000 This kid is now a KKK-style segregationist.

00:08:59.000 And then a BuzzFeed reporter tweeted this out about these kids.

00:09:03.000 A picture of the kid in the MAGA hat just standing there.

00:09:07.000 Again, he didn't do anything.

00:09:08.000 He was just standing there.

00:09:08.000 He didn't mock the guy.

00:09:09.000 He didn't do anything.

00:09:10.000 And in fact, as we'll see, this kid, when somebody tried to start confronting the Native American guy, this kid turned around and tried to stop it.

00:09:19.000 Okay, but they put up a picture.

00:09:21.000 This reporter from BuzzFeed put up a picture of this kid next to a picture of Brett Kavanaugh and wrote, It's the look of white patriarchy, of course, but that familiarity, that banality is part of what prompts the visceral reaction.

00:09:40.000 This isn't spectacular.

00:09:41.000 It's life in America. 0.98

00:09:43.000 So in other words, a white kid smiling is the look of white patriarchy, just like Brett Kavanaugh, who they accused of gang rape. 0.97

00:09:52.000 Falsely, by the way. 0.96

00:09:54.000 Just astonishing, astonishing stuff.

00:09:55.000 And then a reporter from the New York Times put out a tweet like this.

00:10:00.000 A reporter from the New York Times.

00:10:01.000 It's not this tweet.

00:10:03.000 I'll find it.

00:10:04.000 There's a reporter from the New York Times who actually put up a tweet quoting a Facebook post by someone named Marlon James, who I've never heard of.

00:10:12.000 And here's what the statement says that the New York Times reporter endorses.

00:10:14.000 Okay, you ready for this?

00:10:16.000 Here's the thing about Covington Catholic Schoolboy.

00:10:18.000 He didn't shout.

00:10:19.000 He didn't rage.

00:10:20.000 He didn't threaten.

00:10:21.000 He did not even lift a finger.

00:10:22.000 Because he's not even 20 years old and already knows he never has to.

00:10:26.000 He just stood there with his smirk, the line sealing his white privilege.

00:10:29.000 A smirk saying that nothing you speak matters.

00:10:31.000 Your existence doesn't matter.

00:10:33.000 Your protest doesn't matter.

00:10:34.000 Your dignity doesn't matter.

00:10:35.000 Not even the fact that you were here first matters.

00:10:38.000 You're a joke because I find you funny.

00:10:39.000 You're a target because I got my bullseye on you. 0.88

00:10:42.000 And you are nothing because I won't even remember you by the time I get home.

00:10:45.000 This is racism boiled down to the core.

00:10:47.000 Bigotry in excelsis.

00:10:49.000 An editor at the New York Times tweeted out that this was a well-spoken objection to this kid.

00:10:53.000 Again, even in the original video, all the kid's doing is standing there.

00:10:56.000 Now, here's part of the problem.

00:10:58.000 This guy, this Native American guy, lied to the mainstream media. 0.96

00:11:01.000 I mean, there are a lot of people who are pussyfooting around what the guy did.

00:11:03.000 He lied.

00:11:04.000 Okay, this is not a mistake.

00:11:06.000 He didn't make a mistake in describing the situation.

00:11:08.000 He outright lied about the situation on national television and to the Washington Post.

00:11:12.000 And everybody bought it and pretended it was okay because he's an older gentleman who served in World War II.

00:11:17.000 Lies are lies no matter who speaks them.

00:11:18.000 And if you're not willing to call out lies, then you are not doing your job as a journalist.

00:11:23.000 Speak truth to power.

00:11:24.000 Democracy dies in darkness. 0.96

00:11:26.000 All these media liars. 0.89

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00:12:44.000 Here is what Phillips told the newspaper and then we will see that there is video footage that shows he is lying.

00:12:49.000 So he says that he accused the teens of harassing and intimidating him and claimed the scene grew ugly.

00:12:54.000 He said, it was getting ugly and I was thinking I've got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial.

00:13:00.000 I started going that way and that guy in the hat stood in my way and we were at an impasse.

00:13:04.000 He just blocked my way and he wouldn't allow me to retreat.

00:13:07.000 And as you'll see from the tape, this is just an outright lie.

00:13:10.000 He then accused the teens of chanting, build the wall.

00:13:13.000 The tape is two hours long.

00:13:14.000 There's not a single instance of anyone shouting build the wall and hurling racial epithets at the group of Native Americans.

00:13:20.000 The tape is widely available.

00:13:22.000 It is two hours long.

00:13:23.000 There's not a single epithet shouted in Native American, not one.

00:13:27.000 He also accuses the teens of shouting racial epithets at the black Hebrew-Israelites who are standing nearby.

00:13:32.000 In fact, it turns out precisely the reverse. 0.98

00:13:33.000 The black Hebrew-Israelites are shouting epithets at the kids. 0.99

00:13:36.000 There's one black kid from Covington Catholic High, and the black Hebrew-Israelites are shouting the N-word at him. 1.00

00:13:42.000 The kids are the problem. 0.99

00:13:45.000 And then he went on CNN and he lied about it.

00:13:47.000 Here he was talking about, I love this, CNN calls it the heartbreaking viral video. 0.97

00:13:52.000 Here is this Native American guy, Phillips, A liar lying on CNN.

00:13:58.000 I was standing there and I seen that group of people in front of me and I seen the angry faces and all of that. 0.93

00:14:05.000 I realized I had put myself in a really dangerous situation.

00:14:10.000 All that anger and all that wanting to have the freedom to just rip me apart, you know, that was scary.

00:14:19.000 This young fellow put himself in front of me and wouldn't move.

00:14:24.000 Okay, so this is just a lie.

00:14:26.000 It's just not true.

00:14:27.000 He can move to the right.

00:14:28.000 He can move to the left.

00:14:28.000 He can reverse out.

00:14:30.000 He walked into the crowd.

00:14:31.000 So here's the actual tape.

00:14:32.000 Now you're wondering, because I keep saying that he's lying.

00:14:34.000 Here is the actual tape, several segments, beginning with black Israelites shouting slurs at the student, shouting at a black student.

00:14:40.000 student and then you will see phillips approach the crowd and walk into the middle of the crowd the crowd did not surround him the crowd did not mob him nothing like that he walked into the middle of the crowd singing and chanting walked directly up to the student you saw in the original tape and then started banging his drum in the student's face here's what it actually here's what actually happened that the media refused to cover because they're they're liars your college degrees was paid off of the bloodshed of slavery - What?

00:15:08.000 Your houses, your mortgages, everything your parents owned was given to you by the bloodshed of our people. 0.97

00:15:18.000 He said this racist.

00:15:19.000 What the hell is all this? 0.97

00:15:21.000 What the hell is you see if crackers would make America great again? 0.99

00:15:26.000 Yeah, you's a cracker. 0.99

00:15:27.000 You's a cracker. 0.98

00:15:29.000 All of you crackers. 0.52

00:15:31.000 Okay, the kids don't do anything, right?

00:15:32.000 The kids are doing nothing.

00:15:34.000 And then, you will see, I mean, there's tape of it, of Phillips walking into the middle of the crowd and banging his drum right in this kid's face.

00:15:41.000 And there's another piece of tape in which the kid turns around and tries to actually stop another kid from having an argument with Phillips, because Phillips is shouting that all these white kids should go back to Europe at one point.

00:15:52.000 Or it wasn't, I think it was one of Phillips' friends who was shouting at somebody.

00:15:56.000 That's not how the media covered it.

00:15:57.000 And we'll get to the students' statements about this, which are a lot more true than anything Phillips had to say in just one second.

00:16:02.000 So here is what the students said.

00:16:04.000 First of all, all these folks online started trying to dox the kids.

00:16:08.000 So Kathy Griffin, dox means find their personal information and put it out publicly.

00:16:12.000 So Kathy Griffin Put out a statement saying these kids deserve to be doxxed. 0.78

00:16:16.000 They're 15-year-old, 16-year-old kids who didn't do anything.

00:16:19.000 And she's saying... Now, you may say these kids were a little bit rude.

00:16:22.000 You may say that these kids shouldn't have been making faces in the tape.

00:16:25.000 Are we going to pretend that this is the great crime of the century?

00:16:29.000 Are we going to pretend that this wasn't a manufactured media lie from the very outset?

00:16:33.000 Is that what we're going to pretend now?

00:16:34.000 We're going to pretend that these kids decided to mob a Native American guy, when precisely the opposite is the case.

00:16:39.000 The guy walked into the middle of the crowd to confront people, banged his drum in a kid's face, while black Hebrew Israelites were shouting at people? 0.92

00:16:45.000 Do we have the tape of the guy walking into the crowd?

00:16:48.000 Let's play that.

00:16:50.000 See, here he comes.

00:16:51.000 Banging the drum, right?

00:16:55.000 Now look, there's plenty of room for him to go to the Lincoln Memorial without walking through these kids.

00:17:00.000 Plenty of room.

00:17:00.000 Here he comes.

00:17:01.000 He's walking into the middle of the crowd with a bunch of dancing friends of his.

00:17:06.000 Banging the drum, walking into the middle of the crowd.

00:17:08.000 He deliberately sought out the crowd, walked into the middle of it, and we're supposed to believe that the kids wouldn't let him move through, mobbed him, and scared him.

00:17:14.000 Nonsense.

00:17:15.000 It's a lie.

00:17:16.000 And then what happened is, because of all the doxing, they actually went after the wrong people.

00:17:20.000 Because they don't care.

00:17:21.000 Now, I'm old enough to remember when Laura Ingraham was boycotted for critiquing, in mild fashion, David Hogg.

00:17:28.000 For saying that David Hogg was whiny.

00:17:30.000 And she was boycotted. 0.99

00:17:31.000 I said it was a dumb comment at the time. 0.95

00:17:33.000 But, was it boycott worthy? 0.99

00:17:34.000 Of course not, it was absurd.

00:17:35.000 Okay, David Hogg was, but he was untouchable.

00:17:39.000 The Parkland kids, if you said anything about the Parkland kids, even saying they didn't know what they were talking about on Guns, even saying they have a right to speak out, they went through something terrible, but they don't know what they're talking about, even this was considered uncouth.

00:17:51.000 The entire left mobilized to destroy these kids.

00:17:53.000 Destroy them for doing nothing, so far as I can tell, that is even remotely worthy of this sort of reaction. 0.98

00:18:00.000 Andrew Hodge is the brother of one of these kids.

00:18:03.000 Okay, and here's what he wrote.

00:18:04.000 Yesterday was supposed to be a day of celebration for my middle brother, Alex, who got married last night.

00:18:09.000 Instead, my family had to deal with the fallout of my youngest brother, Michael Hodge, being falsely accused for standing and smiling in front of an indigenous man with a drum.

00:18:17.000 People then proceeded to spam my family with harassment and threats of physical violence.

00:18:20.000 We then find out our parents' address was posted online.

00:18:23.000 If that wasn't enough, our family-operated business has been slandered and attacked.

00:18:27.000 No one reviews evidence or does any due diligence.

00:18:29.000 They immediately escalate things to a state of frenzy over much of nothing.

00:18:32.000 The zealots scream for the head of Michael Hodge, knowing that there will be zero consequences to them if anything happens to him.

00:18:38.000 My parents, uncles, aunts, receive messages stating that they are pieces of bleep parents and won't be able to protect Michael Hodge forever.

00:18:44.000 Seriously, what kind of behavior is this?

00:18:47.000 Michael Hodge is the best kid I know.

00:18:49.000 He volunteers for Special Olympics.

00:18:51.000 Took them skiing this Thursday.

00:18:52.000 Is involved in the church youth group.

00:18:53.000 Doesn't drink smoke.

00:18:54.000 Volunteered for Drug Free Clubs of America.

00:18:57.000 And as an aspiring chef, people then started circulating articles of him regarding his dreams and goals of being a chef, find the colleges he plans on attending, and proceed to blow them up, encouraging them to rescind offer and calling him a racist P.O.S.

00:19:10.000 piece of bleep.

00:19:11.000 You reach out saying how terrible of a family we are to fame us, threaten us, and you know nothing about us.

00:19:15.000 Yet you circulate the information and spam us like it is the only truth that has ever existed in your lives.

00:19:20.000 You condemn my parents for being horrible role models, yet you jump to conclusions and were ready to string up an innocent dude?

00:19:25.000 Is that what you are teaching your children and family?

00:19:27.000 I sure hope not.

00:19:28.000 It saddens me people have nothing better to do on Saturday than scour the internet for drama, and then dig up info on a family, and rile up an army to attack them.

00:19:35.000 Hold yourselves to a higher standard.

00:19:37.000 Set a better example for your sphere of influence.

00:19:39.000 We will all be better off for it.

00:19:40.000 Nobody's going to do that.

00:19:41.000 By the way, quick correction, Phillips, the Native American guy at the center, is a Vietnam vet, not a World War II vet.

00:19:45.000 Just want to correct that for the record.

00:19:47.000 Because when we screw something up on this show, we try to correct it, unlike members of the media who keep doubling down.

00:19:52.000 Then, the kid who's at the center of all this, the kid who did something terribly, terribly wrong by apparently standing there while a guy banged a drum in his face, that kid put out a statement too.

00:20:00.000 And here's what his statement says, quote, I am providing this factual account of what happened on Friday afternoon at the Lincoln Memorial to correct misinformation and outright lies being spread about my family and me.

00:20:12.000 I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protester.

00:20:15.000 I arrived at the Lincoln Memorial at 4.30 p.m.

00:20:18.000 I was told to be there by 5.30 p.m.

00:20:19.000 when our buses were due to leave Washington for the trip back to Kentucky.

00:20:22.000 We had been attending the March for Life rally and then had split up into small groups to do sightseeing.

00:20:26.000 When we arrived, we noticed four African-American protesters who were also on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, writes Nick Sandman.

00:20:32.000 This is the Covington student in the middle of the controversy.

00:20:34.000 I am not sure what they were protesting, and I did not interact with them.

00:20:37.000 I did hear them direct derogatory insults at our school group.

00:20:41.000 The protesters said hateful things. 0.99

00:20:43.000 They called us racist, bigots, white crackers, F-words, meaning insult for gay people, and incest kids. 1.00

00:20:48.000 They also taunted an African-American student from my school by telling him that we would harvest his organs. 0.99

00:20:54.000 I have no idea what that insult means, but it was startling to hear.

00:20:56.000 Because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group.

00:21:06.000 The chants are commonly used at sporting events.

00:21:09.000 They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school.

00:21:12.000 Our chaperone gave us permission to use our school chants.

00:21:15.000 We would not have done that without obtaining permission from the adults in charge of our group.

00:21:18.000 That's the chanting you're seeing the kids doing.

00:21:20.000 They're not chanting to mock the guy. 1.00

00:21:22.000 All they're doing is singing their high school song in order to drown out the racist stupidity being shouted at them. 1.00

00:21:28.000 At no time did I hear any student chant anything other than the school spirit chants. 1.00

00:21:31.000 I did not witness or hear any student chant build that wall or anything hateful or racist at any time.

00:21:36.000 Assertions to the contrary are simply false.

00:21:39.000 Our chants were loud because we wanted to drown out the hateful comments that were being shouted at us by the protesters.

00:21:44.000 By the way, the tape lines up with this.

00:21:45.000 It does not line up with a thing, Philip says.

00:21:48.000 After a few minutes of chanting, the Native American protesters, who I hadn't previously noticed, approached our group.

00:21:53.000 The Native American protesters had drums and were accompanied by at least one person with a camera.

00:21:57.000 The protester everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him.

00:22:02.000 I did not see anyone try to block his path.

00:22:04.000 He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face.

00:22:06.000 He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.

00:22:09.000 I never interacted with this protester.

00:22:11.000 I did not speak to him.

00:22:12.000 I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves.

00:22:14.000 To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me.

00:22:17.000 We had already been yelled at by another group of protesters, and when the second group approached, I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.

00:22:25.000 I believed that by remaining motionless and calm, I was helping to diffuse the situation.

00:22:29.000 I realized everyone had cameras, and that perhaps a group of adults was trying to provoke a group of teenagers into a larger conflict.

00:22:35.000 I said a silent prayer that the situation would not get out of hand.

00:22:39.000 During the period of the drumming, a member of the protesters' entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we stole our land and we should go back to Europe.

00:22:45.000 I heard one of my fellow students begin to respond.

00:22:47.000 I motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protester, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.

00:22:54.000 I never felt I was blocking the Native American protester.

00:22:56.000 He did not make any attempt to go around me.

00:22:58.000 It was clear to me he had singled me out for a confrontation, although I am not sure why.

00:23:02.000 The engagement ended when one of our teachers told me the buses had arrived and it was time to go.

00:23:06.000 I obeyed my teacher and simply walked to the buses.

00:23:09.000 At that moment, I thought I had defused the situation by remaining calm, and I was thankful nothing physical had happened.

00:23:14.000 In a second, I'm going to read you the rest of the student's statement.

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00:24:21.000 Okay, so more from this student who's been wrongly maligned by the lying media. 0.79

00:24:25.000 His name is Nick Sandman, and he's the one who is apparently just like accused gang rapist, falsely accused gang rapist Brett Kavanaugh for standing there and not doing a thing. 0.96

00:24:34.000 But he's a bad guy. 0.94

00:24:36.000 Here's what he says.

00:24:37.000 Here's what he says.

00:24:54.000 I did smile at one point because I wanted him to know that I was not going to become angry, intimidated, or be provoked into a larger confrontation.

00:25:00.000 I am a faithful Christian and practicing Catholic, and I always try to live up to my ideals.

00:25:04.000 My faith teaches me to remain respectful of others and to take no action that would lead to conflict or violence.

00:25:09.000 I harbor no ill will for this person.

00:25:11.000 I respect this person's right to protest and engage in free speech activities.

00:25:14.000 I support his chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial any day of the week.

00:25:17.000 I believe he should rethink his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make.

00:25:21.000 I'm being called every name in the book, including a racist, and I will not stand for this mob-like character assassination in my family's name.

00:25:27.000 My parents were not on the trip, and I strive to represent my family in a respectful way in all public settings.

00:25:32.000 I have received physical and death threats via social media, as well as hateful insults.

00:25:36.000 One person threatened to harm me at school.

00:25:37.000 One person claims to live in my neighborhood.

00:25:39.000 My parents are receiving death and professional threats because of the social media mob that has formed over this issue.

00:25:45.000 I love my school, my teachers, and my classmates.

00:25:48.000 I work hard to achieve good grades and to participate in several extracurricular activities.

00:25:51.000 I am mortified that so many people have come to believe that something that did not happen, that students from my school were chanting or acting in a racist fashion toward Native Americans or African Americans.

00:26:00.000 I did not do that.

00:26:01.000 I do not have hateful feelings in my heart.

00:26:02.000 I did not witness any of my classmates doing that.

00:26:04.000 I cannot speak for everyone, only for myself.

00:26:06.000 But I can tell you, my experience with Covington Catholic is that students are respectful of all races and cultures.

00:26:11.000 We also support everyone's right to free speech.

00:26:14.000 I am not going to comment on the words or accounts of Mr. Phillips, as I don't know him, and would not presume to know what is in his heart or mind, nor am I going to comment further on other protesters, as I don't know their hearts or minds either.

00:26:24.000 I have read that Mr. Phillips is a veteran of the U.S.

00:26:25.000 Marines.

00:26:26.000 I thank him for his service, and I'm grateful to anyone.

00:26:28.000 Who puts on the uniform to defend our nation.

00:26:30.000 If anyone has earned the right to speak freely, it is a U.S. 0.99

00:26:32.000 Marine veteran.

00:26:32.000 I can only speak for myself and what I observed or felt at that time, but I would caution everyone passing judgment based on a few seconds of video to watch the longer video clips that are on the internet as they show a much different story than is being portrayed by people with agendas.

00:26:44.000 I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened.

00:26:48.000 I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting. 0.97

00:26:52.000 That's the kid the media are tearing down today, because they are disgusting. 0.72

00:26:56.000 Because the members of the media who have continued to push this, even after it's been debunked, are revolting. 0.94

00:27:02.000 Revolting.

00:27:04.000 And anything I can do to help these kids at Covington Catholic, I will do.

00:27:08.000 Anything I can do to help these kids who are being maligned by the media, I will do.

00:27:11.000 If they start a college fund for this kid, for Nick Sandman, I will give money personally to it.

00:27:16.000 This is, it's disgusting.

00:27:18.000 But this is what the media were doing.

00:27:19.000 That's what the media were doing.

00:27:20.000 During the March for Life, all the media were concerned with, many in the media, I always say many because, again, there are exceptions, many in the media were concerned with finding ways not to talk about the March for Life, but to manufacture out of whole cloth stories that fit into their wheelhouse.

00:27:35.000 I know this because they also did this to me.

00:27:37.000 So you may have noticed that on Friday and Saturday, trending on Twitter was the phrase, Baby Hitler.

00:27:43.000 Why was that phrase trending on Twitter? 0.68

00:27:44.000 Well, because if you listen to the podcast on Friday, you will know that I made a very specific argument in which I referenced the kind of joking, oft-discussed issue of, would you go back in time and kill Baby Hitler?

00:27:55.000 This issue, by the way, is not unique to me.

00:27:57.000 The New York Times wrote a piece on it in 2015.

00:27:59.000 We commented on the show in 2015.

00:28:01.000 So this is an old thing on the internet.

00:28:04.000 Here is what happened.

00:28:05.000 There's a guy named Jordan Ull. 1.00

00:28:07.000 A garbage human. 0.99

00:28:09.000 And Jordan Ull took 21 seconds of my podcast from last week, from last Friday, and he cut it out of context. 0.99

00:28:16.000 And then he put it up on the internet. 0.99

00:28:17.000 And it got 1.2 million hits, views within just minutes because everyone on the left wanted to proclaim that I had said something crazy at the March for Life because this fits in with their lying, stupid, nonsensical, false narrative that people at the March for Life are inherently crazy and wild. 0.99

00:28:34.000 And so here is the 21 second clip that this piece of garbage knowingly cut out of context and then put up as though I was saying something wild out of context. 0.97

00:28:44.000 Here's the 21 second clip and then You will hear the full clip, and you will see the media ran with the story because they were trying to manufacture a story in order to target not really only me, but the March for Life as a whole. 0.98

00:28:56.000 Look at these crazy kooks out there showing up in the snow to march for unborn babies. 1.00

00:29:00.000 They're all a bunch of nuts. 0.99

00:29:01.000 Here's the 21 second clip, and then I will show you the context. 1.00

00:29:04.000 The argument, I guess here, is that would you kill baby Hitler?

00:29:07.000 And the truth is that no pro-life person on earth would kill baby Hitler. 0.90

00:29:11.000 Right?

00:29:11.000 Because baby Hitler wasn't Hitler.

00:29:12.000 Adult Hitler was Hitler. 0.78

00:29:13.000 Baby Hitler was a baby. 0.82

00:29:14.000 Right?

00:29:15.000 What you presumably want to do with baby Hitler was take baby Hitler out of baby Hitler's house and move baby Hitler into a better house where he would not grow up to be Hitler. 0.91

00:29:22.000 Right?

00:29:22.000 That's the idea.

00:29:23.000 Okay, and then there's a cheer from the crowd. 0.99

00:29:25.000 Oh, look at these crazy people cheering about ba- First of all, Even out of context, is the idea from the left that you have to kill baby Hitler? 0.97

00:29:32.000 I don't understand where the controversy is even here. 0.97

00:29:35.000 Like, is the idea that, logically speaking, you must kill a baby who will grow up to be Hitler because we live in a minority report universe where you go back in time and you get to determine what crimes people commit before they commit them? 0.60

00:29:45.000 That in and of itself is immoral, but...

00:29:47.000 This was not a context-free statement. 1.00

00:29:50.000 I wasn't randomly discussing the idiotic internet baby Hitler hypothetical. 0.98

00:29:54.000 I was discussing it in the context of a very specific argument. 0.96

00:29:57.000 It is an argument made in the book Freakonomics and defended by the authors of that book that suggests that abortions in the 70s led to lowered crime rates in the late 80s and early 90s.

00:30:08.000 And I was discussing this at length.

00:30:09.000 By the way, there's a quasi-racist element to this argument, because overwhelmingly, or at least disproportionately, the babies being killed in abortions in the 70s were of minorities and poor.

00:30:19.000 So the idea is if you kill poor minority unborn babies, they won't grow up to be poor minority criminals. 0.97

00:30:24.000 That's a pretty racist argument. 0.97

00:30:25.000 Okay, so I was making the argument against that.

00:30:27.000 Here is the full context of what I said, which if you listened to last Friday's show, you will know is what I said, because you listened to the show and you're not a media hack.

00:30:36.000 Here was the full context.

00:30:37.000 That argument is that abortion lowers the crime rate, right?

00:30:41.000 That what has lowered the crime rate traditionally has been killing all the would-be criminals.

00:30:45.000 I don't know who's comfortable with the pre-crime version of humanity, where we get to decide before you're born whether you're likely to be a criminal and then abort you based on future criminal activity in which you have not participated. 0.59

00:30:55.000 The argument, I guess, here is that would you kill baby Hitler at all? 0.53

00:30:59.000 And the truth is that no pro-life person on earth would kill baby Hitler. 0.54

00:31:02.000 Right?

00:31:03.000 Because baby Hitler wasn't Hitler.

00:31:04.000 Adult Hitler was Hitler. 0.78

00:31:05.000 Baby Hitler was a baby. 0.82

00:31:06.000 Right?

00:31:07.000 What you presumably want to do with baby Hitler was take baby Hitler out of baby Hitler's house and move baby Hitler into a better house where he would not grow up to be Hitler. 0.91

00:31:14.000 Right?

00:31:14.000 That's the idea.

00:31:15.000 Okay, the entire argument is about the morality of killing the unborn because you think they will commit crimes in the future.

00:31:20.000 And you take the ultimate criminal, right?

00:31:22.000 This is called an analogy.

00:31:23.000 You take the ultimate criminal and you say, this is the ultimate worst person on earth.

00:31:28.000 If you knew him as a baby, you wouldn't morally be allowed to kill him as a baby because babies are not responsible for the actions of their future selves.

00:31:35.000 Instead, you work to ensure the life of the baby and then try and bring him into the best circumstances.

00:31:40.000 This is utterly uncontroversial.

00:31:42.000 I mean wildly uncontroversial.

00:31:43.000 Not only will I double down on this, I will infinity down on this.

00:31:46.000 Because this is the easiest, most clear argument.

00:31:49.000 There is nothing wrong with this argument in any way.

00:31:51.000 And people on the left still have failed to explain what is wrong with the argument, because they didn't engage with the argument.

00:31:56.000 Instead, because I said the phrase, baby Hitler, and because that's inherently kind of funny, which is sort of the point, because I said that phrase, they decided that they were going to come after me with a hatchet. 0.92

00:32:08.000 If they want to be the defenders of people who kill babies, go for it. 0.84

00:32:11.000 All yours, guys.

00:32:11.000 All yours.

00:32:12.000 But it just demonstrates, once again, how wildly dishonest and disgusting these people are. 1.00

00:32:15.000 I mean, disgusting. 0.93

00:32:17.000 There were media outlets that took that 21-second clip I showed at the beginning, I played at the beginning a few minutes ago, they took the 21-second clip and posted that.

00:32:24.000 And when I contacted these media outlets and said, guys, you might want to actually put up, like, you know, the full three-minute clip so people know what I'm talking about, the media outlets would say, okay, you know what, you're right, maybe we'll put up the three-minute clip, but we're not going to change the article or change the transcript.

00:32:36.000 That's right, because you got clicks off it because you're liars.

00:32:39.000 Because if you lie, and if you lie consistently enough, then people start to believe the lie. 0.93

00:32:45.000 It is.

00:32:46.000 So the two big stories from the March for Life were not these 600,000 people who showed up in the snow to March for Life.

00:32:51.000 The story, apparently, according to the media, were a bunch of high school kids who were racist.

00:32:55.000 False.

00:32:56.000 And me talking about baby Hitler, which was not even a story.

00:33:00.000 Amazing what the media will do to avoid talking about the actual story.

00:33:02.000 And then we'll get to the worst media botchery of the weekend, because this one actually has national implications.

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00:35:46.000 Okay, so the worst media botchery of the weekend was an astonishing one that the media have decided naturally to downplay.

00:35:57.000 And that is, we talked about it on Friday on the show, There was a report from BuzzFeed.

00:36:03.000 We talked about it on the radio show.

00:36:04.000 There was a report from BuzzFeed suggesting that President Trump had told Michael Cohen, his personal attorney, to lie to Congress.

00:36:11.000 And they said they had evidence.

00:36:12.000 They said they had documentary support.

00:36:14.000 They had text messages.

00:36:15.000 They said that they knew for a fact that Trump had told Michael Cohen to lie.

00:36:20.000 Well, if that's true, that's impeachable.

00:36:22.000 If it's true that there's evidence that Trump told Cohen to commit perjury, that is open subordination of perjury and obstruction of justice, he would likely find himself impeached, if that were true.

00:36:32.000 Or at least, he'd be in serious jeopardy of impeachment. 0.99

00:36:34.000 But, as it turns out, BuzzFeed is totally full of crap.

00:36:37.000 Now, when we analyzed the article last week, I talked specifically about the holes in the article, namely, They don't cite any of the documents. 0.97

00:36:44.000 It's two unnamed law enforcement officials.

00:36:46.000 We didn't know what the documents actually said.

00:36:48.000 There was a lot of vagary about the article itself.

00:36:50.000 It was just super long.

00:36:53.000 But then something happens, something rare.

00:36:55.000 So Robert Mueller himself, the Mueller team, have been publicly extraordinarily tight-lipped.

00:37:01.000 They've not been talking openly about the goings-on in the investigation.

00:37:04.000 It's not been something they've talked about a lot.

00:37:06.000 Which is good, right?

00:37:07.000 That's what they should be doing. 0.99

00:37:08.000 It's their job to shut up.

00:37:09.000 But, on Friday, they did something unique.

00:37:12.000 On Friday night, they disputed the BuzzFeed story.

00:37:15.000 They came out and they said, this is just not correct. 0.99

00:37:18.000 Here is what Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller's office, said in a statement, quote, Okay, so the Mueller report, right, the people compiling it, Robert Mueller's team, over at the FBI, said openly, BuzzFeed is totally full of crap.

00:37:25.000 Characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office regarding Michael Cohen's congressional testimony are not accurate.

00:37:32.000 So Mueller committed the Mueller report, right? 0.99

00:37:36.000 The people compiling Robert Mueller's team over at the FBI said openly BuzzFeed is totally full of crap, totally full of it. 0.96

00:37:44.000 Not an it's an unbelievable statement. 0.97

00:37:47.000 Because BuzzFeed was basically claiming that the president was on his way out.

00:37:49.000 They were claiming his presidency was over.

00:37:51.000 Done.

00:37:52.000 Finito.

00:37:53.000 Right?

00:37:53.000 That was what they were claiming.

00:37:55.000 And Mueller came out and said, wait, wait, wait.

00:37:56.000 You guys... I don't know where you're getting this, but this ain't true.

00:37:59.000 How astonishing is it that Mueller himself came out, his team came out specifically and disputed our report?

00:38:05.000 It's unbelievable.

00:38:07.000 It's unbelievable.

00:38:08.000 Naturally, BuzzFeed just stood by their decision to publish.

00:38:11.000 So Ben Smith went on CNN with one of his reporters, not one of his reporters who actually was on the story, right?

00:38:18.000 So it was written by two reporters, Jason Leopold, And Anthony Cormier.

00:38:22.000 Jason Leopold has a highly checkered history in the past as a reporter.

00:38:25.000 He reported years ago Karl Rove was going to be indicted.

00:38:27.000 That turned out not to be true.

00:38:29.000 Jason Leopold didn't show up on CNN.

00:38:31.000 Where was he?

00:38:32.000 No one knew.

00:38:34.000 But Ben Smith did, and he explained, no, no, no, no.

00:38:36.000 Of course we had to run with the story.

00:38:37.000 Yeah, we're going to publish this.

00:38:39.000 There are a lot of limits around what we can say.

00:38:41.000 Like, I think that we have said a certain amount about what we have.

00:38:44.000 We have some in the story.

00:38:45.000 We've said some things on television.

00:38:47.000 We stand by all of it.

00:38:48.000 But I think what we have discussed this morning, just in the context of the president's lawyer calling for a leak investigation, we're being extremely careful.

00:38:55.000 Okay, so they're not going to explain why they're defending the story, and they're not going to explain why Mueller's office just clocked them in the side of the head with a meat hook.

00:39:03.000 So the people are saying heads should roll at BuzzFeed.

00:39:06.000 That you're hurting the news business as a whole.

00:39:07.000 their reporting.

00:39:08.000 And they also explained that Jason Leopold was just a way on assignment.

00:39:11.000 That's why he wasn't there at CNN.

00:39:12.000 He was a way on assignment.

00:39:13.000 - Uh-huh. - This reporting is accurate. - So the people are saying heads should roll at Buzzfeed.

00:39:19.000 That you're hurting the news business as a whole.

00:39:22.000 What do you say? - I've been a reporter for 20 years.

00:39:26.000 My first job was on the loading dock of the Panama City News Herald.

00:39:29.000 They wouldn't give me a job inside because I was too young and green.

00:39:32.000 I've been doing this again and again and again and again.

00:39:35.000 OK, so they blow the story.

00:39:39.000 Mueller said, I'm not saying it.

00:39:41.000 Trump isn't saying it.

00:39:42.000 It's not Trump saying on Twitter fake news.

00:39:44.000 It's Mueller himself saying the story's wrong.

00:39:46.000 Doesn't matter.

00:39:47.000 CNN reports it.

00:39:48.000 Oh, well, BuzzFeed says it's true.

00:39:49.000 And then I love this.

00:39:50.000 Chuck Todd tweets out from NBC.

00:39:53.000 Bull-freaking-bleep. 0.64

00:39:54.000 Those trying to tar all media today aren't interested in improving journalism, but protecting themselves.

00:39:58.000 There's a lot more accountability in media these days than in our politics.

00:40:01.000 We know we live in a glass house.

00:40:02.000 We hope the folks we cover are self-aware. 0.94

00:40:04.000 Bull freaking bleep. 0.99

00:40:07.000 Bull bleep. 0.97

00:40:08.000 Bull horse pucky. 0.71

00:40:11.000 Absolute nonsense. 0.93

00:40:13.000 Are you kidding me?

00:40:15.000 The folks in the media- Show me who's gonna get fired over this Native American story. 0.65

00:40:18.000 Over this Covington Catholic High School story.

00:40:20.000 Show me who's gonna get fired.

00:40:21.000 Show me who's gonna get fired in the media over taking stuff of me completely out of context and not reporting it.

00:40:26.000 Show me who's gonna get fired at BuzzFeed for misreporting a story the Mueller office says they got wrong.

00:40:31.000 Show me the person.

00:40:32.000 Show me the person who gets suspended.

00:40:34.000 Show me the person who even gets ripped.

00:40:36.000 Forget about suspended.

00:40:37.000 Forget about dismissed.

00:40:39.000 Show me the person who even gets tut-tutted.

00:40:42.000 Show me the correction at the bottom of the story.

00:40:45.000 There will be none!

00:40:47.000 None!

00:40:47.000 It's unreal.

00:40:49.000 It's unreal.

00:40:50.000 So, you wonder why people in the media are not trusted by the American people?

00:40:54.000 Maybe because they promote lies for their own political point of view.

00:40:57.000 I'll give you another example of that.

00:40:59.000 So, when I say that the media have a bunch of narratives and they seek to promote those narratives at every available opportunity, I mean it.

00:41:04.000 So, let's look up some headlines about the Women's March.

00:41:07.000 Okay, so the Women's March took place on Saturday and nine people showed up. 0.99

00:41:11.000 No, like, really.

00:41:12.000 The number of people who showed up for the Women's March was significantly lower than the number of people who showed up for the Pro-Life March that we were at on Friday.

00:41:20.000 And the Women's March received significantly more TV coverage than the March for Life.

00:41:23.000 According to Media Research Center, the 2019 Women's March, which, again, had nine people there, received roughly 15 times more news coverage than the 47th March for Life on broadcast television.

00:41:34.000 Shocker! 0.98

00:41:35.000 And the only coverage the March for Life has received on television at all has been my comments about why you should not slaughter the unborn on the basis of suspicion of future crime and a bunch of high school students being lied about by the national media.

00:41:49.000 The 2019 Women's March fetched 14 minutes and 26 seconds of coverage between Wednesday morning and Saturday evening as opposed to 58 seconds for the March for Life. 0.98

00:41:59.000 Where, by the way, the Vice President personally appeared and the President of the United States appeared via tape.

00:42:05.000 It's amazing.

00:42:07.000 Okay, and did anybody actually mention, did anybody actually mention the actual story of the March for Life?

00:42:14.000 No.

00:42:14.000 So I'm looking right now, let's look at Google News for the March for Life.

00:42:17.000 So I'm doing this in real time.

00:42:18.000 Okay, so we'll see.

00:42:19.000 It says, Represent Us!

00:42:21.000 Women's March Returns Mid-Controversy Over Anti-Semitism.

00:42:24.000 This is for women on what the 2019 Women's March was like. 0.96

00:42:27.000 That's from The Cut.

00:42:28.000 Elle.com, all the best signs from the 2019 Women's March.

00:42:32.000 And then this one from the Voxplainers.

00:42:38.000 These women turned out anyway. 1.00

00:42:40.000 Look at the heroism.

00:42:41.000 And then the Washington Post.

00:42:42.000 post women's march has always been divisive here's how we can fix it the so what was the actual story from the women's march it wasn't that they were sort of plagued by controversy It was that at the Women's March, Linda Sarsour, who is one of the chairwomen of the Women's March, got up and openly called for a boycott of the State of Israel, which is base anti-Semitism.

00:43:03.000 She called for it from the podium and people cheered. 0.85

00:43:06.000 I'm looking at the headlines from Google.

00:43:08.000 There is not a single headline on Google News about what Linda Sarsour said at the top of the Search for Women's March.

00:43:15.000 Not one, not one.

00:43:17.000 OK, it's astonishing.

00:43:19.000 Here's what she said.

00:43:20.000 Anything from Medicare for all to ending the war in Yemen, just standing up for free speech and our constitutional right to boycott divestment and sanctions in these United States of America.

00:43:38.000 So there she is, saying that we should be in favor of BDS.

00:43:41.000 Now, the way that these activists couch it is, we're in favor of the right to boycott.

00:43:44.000 You have the right to boycott in the United States, you just can't get a federal contract if you do.

00:43:48.000 Just like you can't get a federal contract if you racially discriminate against black people.

00:43:52.000 But, there she is, being cheered from the podium for doing this routine. 0.95

00:43:56.000 Tamika Mallory, by the way, one of the chairwomen of the event, she was asked by Margaret Hoover last week whether Israel should exist.

00:44:03.000 Again, this is just base, root anti-Semitism.

00:44:05.000 Here's Tamika Mallory explaining Israel does not have a right to exist as a nation.

00:44:09.000 I have said many times that I feel everyone has a right to exist.

00:44:17.000 I feel everyone has a right to exist.

00:44:19.000 I just don't feel that anyone has a right to exist at the disposal of another group.

00:44:27.000 I believe that all people have the right to exist and that Palestinians are also suffering with a great crisis.

00:44:35.000 I'm done talking about this.

00:44:36.000 I just don't think it requires scholarly knowledge to be able to say that Israel has a right to exist.

00:44:42.000 Again, I believe everyone has the right to exist.

00:44:44.000 And then she said everyone has the right to exist but not at the expense of someone else.

00:44:47.000 I guess she's pro-life now.

00:44:48.000 That's good to know.

00:44:50.000 Then, Alexander Ocasio-Cortez showed up.

00:44:53.000 At the Women's March.

00:44:54.000 And she was asked specifically about anti-Semitism.

00:44:56.000 Did she have an answer for that?

00:44:58.000 No.

00:44:58.000 Alex from the Bronx?

00:45:00.000 She of the diverse background and Jewish heritage, supposedly?

00:45:04.000 No, of course not.

00:45:04.000 It's all about Trump.

00:45:06.000 What would you say to some of those people who have concerns about anti-Semitism within the Women's March group?

00:45:11.000 Absolutely.

00:45:11.000 Well, first of all, I think that right now, in this moment, in the United States, we have to center this conversation.

00:45:17.000 I think that concerns of anti-Semitism with the current administration and the White House are absolutely valid, and we need to make sure that we are protecting the Jewish community and all those that feel vulnerable in this moment.

00:45:29.000 Okay, so it's about Trump.

00:45:31.000 So the heads of the Women's March are on the podium calling for boycott of Israel, and it's all about Trump.

00:45:36.000 Now, did the media report a lot of this stuff?

00:45:38.000 No, of course not, because that's not relevant.

00:45:40.000 They'll talk about the general problem of anti-Semitism with the Women's March and how it's controversial.

00:45:44.000 Did they report the specific comments of Linda Sarsour at the top of Google News?

00:45:48.000 No, of course not.

00:45:49.000 Did they report the Native American situation?

00:45:52.000 Or the baby Hitler thing? 0.84

00:45:54.000 At the top of Google?

00:45:55.000 You bet they did.

00:45:55.000 Of course they did.

00:45:56.000 Because this is what they always do.

00:45:58.000 This is what they do every single time.

00:45:59.000 It's unreal.

00:46:01.000 It's unreal.

00:46:02.000 So it's just amazing, amazing stuff.

00:46:05.000 But, you know, this is why people don't trust the media.

00:46:08.000 And this is why when President Trump bangs on the media, everybody on the right nods along.

00:46:11.000 Because we know they're lying to us.

00:46:13.000 It's all about pressing the narrative.

00:46:14.000 It is not a single little bit about the truth.

00:46:17.000 And it's also why President Trump is likely to ignore media narratives when it comes to actual policymaking.

00:46:22.000 Because he knows, as do we all, that the media have an agenda.

00:46:25.000 I said on CNN years ago, that right as Trump was becoming president, that they should focus less on narrative and more on fact.

00:46:33.000 If they just want to report facts and leave the opinion outside the facts, then maybe we could actually have a conversation.

00:46:38.000 But they don't want to do that.

00:46:39.000 What they want to do is press forward an agenda.

00:46:40.000 And you know, I've spent, honest to God, I've spent the last couple of years really working on trying to see people who don't agree with me as if they are speaking in good faith.

00:46:48.000 And I've always tried to do this, really.

00:46:50.000 I've spent a lot of my life trying to see people on the other side as people of good faith.

00:46:56.000 And I was willing to give people the benefit of the doubt on that.

00:46:59.000 Over the past 72 hours, I gotta tell you, my opinion on this has shifted a little bit because I can't grant you the premise of good faith when you act in openly bad faith.

00:47:07.000 When you promulgate lies for political purposes because it serves your narrative.

00:47:12.000 If you do that, you're not acting in good faith anymore.

00:47:15.000 And this is not directed at every member of the media, again.

00:47:17.000 It's not directed at every member of the left, again.

00:47:19.000 But if you were promulgating these lies after they had been debunked about these kids, if you were promulgating the BuzzFeed story after Mueller came out against it, if you were promulgating The baby Hitler controversy, after it was obvious that it was a non-troversy, that no one cared, and that it was a sheer political hit.

00:47:33.000 If you were doing any of that stuff, you weren't acting in good faith.

00:47:35.000 And more than that, if you knew that these were bad hits, and you didn't speak up, this makes you complicit.

00:47:40.000 If you knew these were bad hits, and you stood there, and you continued to maintain that they were good hits, or you just stood there and stood aside, and you wouldn't defend these kids, or you wouldn't defend Trump against the BuzzFeed story after Mueller debunked it, There's nothing I can't grant you.

00:47:56.000 I can't grant you the benefit of the doubt.

00:47:58.000 You lose benefit of the doubt.

00:47:59.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:48:01.000 So...

00:48:02.000 Things that I like. 0.96

00:48:03.000 Let me remind you, there was this thing called the March for Life that happened on Friday that the media largely ignored in favor of these other two narratives that were sheer garbage.

00:48:12.000 And it was one of the great moments, I have to say, it was one of the great moments of my public life.

00:48:16.000 I thought it was an unbelievable showing.

00:48:18.000 Probably six, somewhere between, I don't know, five and ten thousand people showed up for the live podcast on Friday, which was just wonderful.

00:48:24.000 And then, Hundreds of thousands of people showed up for the March for Life speech.

00:48:27.000 So people who listen to the podcast, I'm sure, you know, heard my comments during the podcast because it was the podcast.

00:48:33.000 But they may not have heard my March for Life speech.

00:48:35.000 So here in its entirety was the speech that I gave at the March for Life on Friday in front of probably a couple of hundred thousand people.

00:48:43.000 What an amazing event.

00:48:45.000 What an amazing showing for life.

00:48:48.000 Thank you all for being here.

00:48:50.000 America's story is an incredible story.

00:48:52.000 It's the story of a shining ideal pursued over the centuries, extended to the full range and scope of humanity.

00:49:00.000 America was founded on the promise of God-given rights, chief among them the rights to life and liberty.

00:49:05.000 Now, while America may have imperfectly fulfilled that promise, we always move forward toward the perfection of that promise.

00:49:14.000 Over time, those unjustly omitted from the founding bargain were admitted and embraced.

00:49:19.000 The American family grew.

00:49:21.000 Only one group was left behind.

00:49:24.000 That group had once been the most prized possession of a great and moral people.

00:49:29.000 Its children.

00:49:30.000 The souls entrusted to us by the Creator, given to us with care and love.

00:49:37.000 We built the country for our children.

00:49:39.000 We built our lives for our children.

00:49:42.000 And then something happened.

00:49:44.000 We, as a country, decided to erase them.

00:49:47.000 We decided that the present was more important than the future.

00:49:51.000 We decided that convenience was more important than basic decency.

00:49:55.000 We decided that we could safely blot out millions of souls who could not protect themselves, still forever, voices that could not speak. 0.98

00:50:03.000 We dehumanized the most human, the most innocent among us.

00:50:06.000 We lied to ourselves.

00:50:08.000 And then we built walls around that lie.

00:50:10.000 We lied about the science.

00:50:12.000 We falsified anti-scientific arguments about the origin of life.

00:50:16.000 We pretended that human beings were not actually human beings.

00:50:20.000 We pretended that human beings with DNA different from their fathers and their mothers, human beings producing their own red blood cells by 12 weeks, their own fingerprints By week 8, their own developing eyes, legs and hands.

00:50:32.000 By week 5, their own forming nervous systems.

00:50:35.000 By week 3, we pretended that these were not human beings, human lives at all, but disposable balls of meat.

00:50:42.000 We fought to avoid looking directly at the ugly truth of what we had done.

00:50:47.000 We created euphemisms.

00:50:49.000 Termination of pregnancy. 0.72

00:50:51.000 Abortion.

00:50:52.000 Choice.

00:50:53.000 What we were really engaging in was the mass killing of the unborn, of course. 0.94

00:50:57.000 Millions of children who would never be held, who would never open their eyes, who would never see the sun rise, who would never become parents and then grandparents.

00:51:06.000 The dismemberment of babies in the womb, the torture of tiny bodies.

00:51:10.000 And we told ourselves that we were virtuous for our lie.

00:51:14.000 We reversed good and evil.

00:51:16.000 We told ourselves that the killing had to continue, because if it didn't, we'd be disadvantaging women, or raising crime rates, or imposing economic hardship.

00:51:24.000 We told young women that abortion wasn't merely a choice.

00:51:27.000 It was a valuable, worthwhile choice.

00:51:29.000 We told them to shout their abortion, to be proud of participating in the killing of the unborn. 1.00

00:51:34.000 We excised those who stood for life.

00:51:36.000 Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York said just a few years ago that those who are right to life, quote, have no place in the state of New York.

00:51:42.000 Just this week, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said that pro-lifers were not in line with, quote, where we are as a society.

00:51:50.000 Well, you know what?

00:51:51.000 Maybe they're right.

00:51:52.000 Maybe we today here are not in line with society.

00:51:55.000 We do live in a time when the Democratic Party has embraced abortion as a sacrament.

00:51:59.000 And, by the way, a time when many in the Republican Party spent years pledging to defund Planned Parenthood and then didn't do it when they were given the power to do so.

00:52:08.000 We live in a time when pro-life nations around the world are loosening their own restrictions on the killing of the unborn.

00:52:14.000 So perhaps we are out of line with the rest of society.

00:52:17.000 To which I say, good.

00:52:19.000 So were the abolitionists.

00:52:26.000 So were the civil rights marchers.

00:52:28.000 So were the martyrs in Rome and the Jews in Egypt.

00:52:34.000 Righteousness doesn't have to be popular, it just has to be righteous.

00:52:43.000 And so we march.

00:52:44.000 We march, for those who can't.

00:52:47.000 The media will ignore us, because they always do.

00:52:49.000 They'll cover other marches, you know, the five people who show up tomorrow.

00:52:53.000 They'll cover the march as they prefer politically.

00:52:56.000 They bet that the tens of thousands of us who brave the cold every year to stand here with the souls of the future America will be forgotten.

00:53:04.000 We will not be forgotten.

00:53:09.000 Our children, slaughtered over the decades, remember.

00:53:13.000 They look at us from above, and they know that they meant something, that they do mean something, so long as we keep them in our minds and in our hearts.

00:53:22.000 Our children standing here with us, the ones who are here today, they will remember too.

00:53:26.000 They will remember, and they will march until they no longer have to march.

00:53:34.000 Our children yet unborn will remember, and they will thank us in their prayers.

00:53:38.000 And most of all, God, the God who built and preserves nations, who brings life and maintains it, who stands with those who suffer most at the hands of evil.

00:53:49.000 He will remember us too.

00:53:51.000 He will remember America and he will bless her.

00:53:53.000 God will bless us because we are the guardians of his most precious creations.

00:53:59.000 We stand between America and the darkness and we will march until that darkness is banished forever and all of our children can stand together in the sunlight.

00:54:09.000 Thank you so much.

00:54:10.000 So that's the speech that people didn't report.

00:54:17.000 What they reported instead was a 21-second clip taken by a progressive activist who's determined to try and come after our show. 0.75

00:54:22.000 That's what they'll report.

00:54:23.000 So well done, media.

00:54:24.000 You guys did a wonderful job.

00:54:25.000 Other things I like I should mention.

00:54:27.000 Congratulations to particularly my production team who does an amazing job every day on the show.

00:54:31.000 I mean, they made the stuff at the March for Life happen.

00:54:32.000 They're really amazing.

00:54:33.000 We did win the Best News Podcast over at the iHeartRadio Awards on Friday night, so that's pretty exciting stuff.

00:54:39.000 We were the Best News Podcast.

00:54:40.000 We defeated other shows with different viewpoints.

00:54:43.000 I won't mention names like Pod Save America.

00:54:45.000 We did actually win an award, so that was fun.

00:54:48.000 And you know what?

00:54:49.000 There's been enough anger on the show today, so I'm going to skip the things that I hate.

00:54:52.000 I'll save it for probably later today.

00:54:54.000 So if you are a subscriber, then later today you can actually watch me go off.

00:54:57.000 I have much more to talk about, but unfortunately we've run our time limit here.

00:55:00.000 You can go check us out over at dailywire.com for $9.99 a month, and there'll be two more hours of this.

00:55:05.000 I have a lot more to get to this afternoon.

00:55:07.000 We will see you then, or we'll see you here tomorrow.

00:55:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 21, 2019

Liars, Damn Liars, And The Media | Ep. 699

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