The Ben Shapiro Show - Rooting For Chaos | Ep. 1057

00:00:00.000 As the curve flattens in Texas and Arizona, Democrats and the media continue to proclaim doom on COVID.

00:00:05.000 Democrats declare Trump a fascist for enforcing the law in Portland and Chicago.

00:00:09.000 And Trump has some weird words about Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:00:11.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:27.000 Okay, so let us begin with where we now stand on COVID.

00:00:30.000 It is perfectly clear at this point that the case numbers are starting to alleviate in places like Texas and Arizona.

00:00:36.000 I'm looking at a chart from the New York Times right now, and what it is showing is that there is a leveling off that is beginning to happen in a variety of states.

00:00:44.000 According to this particular New York Times study, cases per capita, where new cases are mostly the same.

00:00:52.000 California, over the last 14 days, mostly the same.

00:00:56.000 New Jersey, New York, mostly the same.

00:00:58.000 Where new cases are decreasing.

00:00:59.000 Arizona, it's decreasing.

00:01:02.000 Where new deaths are increasing, right?

00:01:04.000 New deaths are trailing indicators.

00:01:05.000 They're still increasing in some places like Florida and Arizona.

00:01:08.000 But again, that is because death usually comes, you know, within 7 to 14 days after diagnosis if you are going to die from COVID.

00:01:17.000 Even in areas where it seems like the cases are increasing over the last 14 days, over the last 7 they seem to be decreasing.

00:01:22.000 So Texas is starting to see a bit of a drop-off.

00:01:25.000 If you look at the chart from the New York Times, you can see that Florida is experiencing a bit of a drop-off.

00:01:30.000 They had a very sharp spike, and now they are beginning to recede.

00:01:33.000 So, in terms of hospitalization rates, in terms of ICUs, fewer people are being hospitalized who have it.

00:01:38.000 Fewer people who end up in the hospital are going to the ICU.

00:01:40.000 Fewer people who are going to the ICU are dying.

00:01:42.000 And what this means is that overall, the death rates from this thing seem to be dropping fairly precipitously.

00:01:47.000 Now, that doesn't mean that it isn't highly deadly.

00:01:49.000 It is significantly more deadly than the flu by most available estimates.

00:01:53.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, six months into the pandemic, researchers are homing in on an answer to one of the basic questions about the virus.

00:01:59.000 How deadly is it?

00:02:00.000 Researchers initially analyzing data from outbreaks on cruise ships, and more recently from surveys of thousands of people in virus hotspots, have now conducted dozens of studies trying to calculate the infection fatality rate of COVID-19.

00:02:11.000 That research suggests COVID-19 kills from around 0.3% to 1.5% of people infected.

00:02:16.000 But the generality of studies is between 0.5% and 1%.

00:02:20.000 Now, it's important to look at the date estimates on these things.

00:02:23.000 The ones that have been done later tend to skew in favor of a lower death rate.

00:02:27.000 So the ones that are done in May tend to skew between 0.5% and 1%.

00:02:30.000 There are a bevy of studies from May and June that actually show this thing well below 1%, actually well below 0.5%.

00:02:38.000 There are a couple studies that may show this actually even in the realm of the flu, but most studies basically put this thing in between 0.5% and 0.8%, which is pretty much what I've been suggesting for a very long time.

00:02:48.000 This thing is not 0.1, it's probably between 0.2 and 0.6, I think has been my sort of stated estimate of the number of people who get this who die.

00:02:55.000 Now, again, that includes all of the above 80-year-olds who get it.

00:02:58.000 And there, the infection fatality rate is a lot higher.

00:03:01.000 So when you remove people who are in the nursing homes, people who are uniquely vulnerable to this thing, then you're talking about maybe three cases in a thousand in terms of people who die from this thing.

00:03:11.000 Okay, so that is really what you're talking about for people who are below the age of 65.

00:03:14.000 It's an infection fatality rate that probably is somewhere around three in one thousand people who get it will die, which seems like not an extraordinary rate.

00:03:24.000 Or at least an extraordinary rate high enough to say that you have to shut down the entire society for all time ad infinitum until a vaccine is found.

00:03:30.000 Let's be frank about this.

00:03:31.000 We all take risk mitigation steps in American life and internationally.

00:03:35.000 We all have to figure out what are the sort of things that are worth shutting down an entire society.

00:03:39.000 So we don't shut down society for the flu, obviously, nor should we.

00:03:43.000 The infection fatality rate on flu is about 1 in 1,000 people who get it will die of the flu every year.

00:03:48.000 It's a 0.1% infection fatality rate for the flu.

00:03:52.000 So if it's 3 in 1,000 as opposed to 1 in 1,000, is that now high enough that you shut down the entire society?

00:03:57.000 Now if you're talking about something like Ebola, then you're talking about like 5% of people who... Actually, sorry.

00:04:03.000 If you're talking about Ebola, the infection fatality rate on Ebola is like way higher, or SARS, or MERS.

00:04:10.000 If you're looking at various death rates on these diseases, then some of these diseases have death rates that are like 10, 20, 50%.

00:04:17.000 Then, of course, if it were to spread through the population, you have the Black Plague.

00:04:23.000 But if you're talking about the difference between one person in a thousand dying and three people in a thousand dying of a disease, that is not the kind of infection fatality rate that necessitates shutting down an entire society.

00:04:32.000 So if you're comparing diseases by infection fatality rate, right?

00:04:36.000 Ebola, for example, has an infection fatality rate, a disease fatality rate up to 70%.

00:04:40.000 Like if you get it, you're going to die, basically.

00:04:43.000 That is not in any way the same thing as COVID.

00:04:46.000 This is important stuff because it is going to necessitate how we think about policy.

00:04:50.000 It's going to necessitate how we think about policy when it comes to reopening schools, where the infection fatality rate is way lower than that.

00:04:55.000 Because again, if you're a kid, the chances you're dying from this thing are much lower.

00:04:59.000 Like, as in like a multiple lower than the flu.

00:05:02.000 If you're under the age of five, there's, I believe, a 16 times higher chance you die of the flu than you die from COVID.

00:05:08.000 So this should inform our thinking, but it seems like everybody is sort of determined to panic at this point.

00:05:14.000 And they're using some data that suggests that we should be very concerned, but I don't think any of the data suggests panic at this point.

00:05:21.000 The widespread panic you're seeing, the media's alarmism suggesting that we're right back where we were in March and April.

00:05:26.000 No, we are not right back where we were in March and April.

00:05:28.000 In March and April, we were seeing nearly 3,000 people a day die.

00:05:31.000 Right now, we are seeing an uptick, a significant uptick from a couple of weeks ago.

00:05:35.000 A couple of weeks ago, we were seeing somewhere between 600 and 800 people a day die.

00:05:39.000 Today, we are seeing somewhere between 900 and 1,100 people die a day.

00:05:42.000 So an uptick of about 300 people dying every day.

00:05:45.000 That's not great.

00:05:46.000 There's also a country of 330 million people, and every day in the United States, in a normal circumstance, you have 7,500 people die every single day in the United States.

00:05:54.000 So a differential of 300 people dying a day, while tragic and horrifying, is that enough to shut down the entire society?

00:06:01.000 Forever?

00:06:02.000 I don't think so, particularly when we have mitigating steps that we can take, like wearing masks and social distancing, which means the best thing we can do right now is get back to work, wear masks, socially distance.

00:06:10.000 If you are, in effect, a person who is uniquely vulnerable, then try to stay home as much as possible and don't go to crowded areas.

00:06:17.000 But that's exactly the same thing I've been advocating for literally months at this point.

00:06:21.000 And yet what the media are suggesting is the only solution here is full-on lockdowns.

00:06:25.000 As we're going to see, the evidence that lockdowns are what actually brought down the infection fatality rate or that lockdowns really prevented the complete destruction of societies...

00:06:34.000 The evidence on that is fairly scanty.

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00:08:03.000 Okay, so how about lockdowns?

00:08:04.000 Are lockdowns the solution to this?

00:08:05.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:08:07.000 Government-enforced lockdowns really were probably not the reason why infections stopped moving through the population as fast.

00:08:14.000 People changed their activity.

00:08:16.000 This is a point I was making last week that people were deliberately attempting to misinterpret because I said it very clearly.

00:08:21.000 People react in rational fashion to risk assessments.

00:08:24.000 So, if there's a large amount of infection in your community, you are much more likely to wear a mask than if you are living in rural Texas.

00:08:31.000 What that means is that once people see the risk materialize, then they start to take action.

00:08:34.000 And this has been true with regards to COVID lockdowns.

00:08:36.000 So the government was like, well, we gotta lock this stuff down.

00:08:38.000 We gotta lock it down right the hell now.

00:08:40.000 Okay, but they really didn't.

00:08:41.000 Okay, they were weeks late on it.

00:08:42.000 People started locking down.

00:08:44.000 I mean, the data is very clear on this.

00:08:45.000 People started locking down.

00:08:46.000 People stopped going out to public places.

00:08:48.000 People started wearing masks before the mandates kicked in.

00:08:51.000 Human beings have a very powerful amygdala, a very powerful fear response that encourages them To take measures to prevent their own death.

00:09:01.000 And I think we can rely on that for most people to actually be smart enough to protect themselves and the people who are directly around them.

00:09:07.000 In Britain, this has become a major controversy because Chris Whitty, who is one of the chief medical, he's the chief medical officer for England.

00:09:15.000 He said that the lockdowns probably are not what caused the decline in the curve in Britain.

00:09:21.000 He says the decline in the curve began before the lockdowns.

00:09:23.000 You see this with masking in a lot of areas, that the declines began before the masking.

00:09:27.000 Why?

00:09:28.000 Because people were taking responsible action before the mandates came in.

00:09:32.000 So this bizarre notion that everything has to be government top-down, and that if the government doesn't act, then nobody will, the evidence on that is pretty scanty overall.

00:09:43.000 And as we say, if you watch the media coverage right now, the media's like, you should be panicked.

00:09:47.000 You should be panicked about the caseload rising.

00:09:48.000 Except that, explain.

00:09:50.000 We only started re-locking down places like Florida and Texas like a week ago.

00:09:55.000 We've already seen decreasing caseloads.

00:09:57.000 We started locking down California again like a couple of days ago, a few days ago.

00:10:01.000 We've already seen decrease in caseloads.

00:10:03.000 So what exactly caused that?

00:10:05.000 Probably people started getting more responsible about where exactly they were going as they saw the news that the cases were spiking.

00:10:10.000 And so we've already hit the other side of the curve in places like Houston.

00:10:14.000 Even NPR is admitting as much.

00:10:17.000 According to NPR, after a sudden surge in reported COVID-19 cases beginning at the end of June, Houston's daily case counts and hospital admission rates seem to be leveling off.

00:10:27.000 Health officials say they are not ready to determine if the data are statistically significant yet, but it's a positive trend.

00:10:31.000 Last Friday, experts were ringing alarm bells.

00:10:34.000 David Peirce, Health Authority for Houston's Health Department said, I just want to put in perspective for those folks who don't see what the issue is.

00:10:39.000 In your experience, you may not know anybody who's sick.

00:10:41.000 You may not know anybody who's died yet.

00:10:43.000 But here's the bottom line.

00:10:43.000 We kept hearing that all the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed.

00:10:46.000 Then there was a surge and it receded.

00:10:47.000 It receded in Arizona.

00:10:49.000 It's receded in Texas.

00:10:50.000 It's beginning to recede in the case count in Florida.

00:10:53.000 Houston hospitals are not overwhelmed.

00:10:55.000 The ICU occupancy in the vast majority of states is below 80%.

00:11:00.000 There are almost no states where it is above 85%, which means that we have actually not threatened the health systems of the United States at this point.

00:11:10.000 But you probably don't know that from watching the media.

00:11:11.000 If you watch the media, then basically everybody's going to die.

00:11:14.000 And if we don't force people to stay at home, everybody's going to die. 0.53

00:11:16.000 And not only that, Republicans are responsible for everybody dying.

00:11:20.000 But that's not statistically correct.

00:11:22.000 It's just not right.

00:11:24.000 If you look at the number of infections that have been detected over the past couple of weeks, what you see is a line that looks arithmetic in its growth.

00:11:31.000 It's very large.

00:11:32.000 It's a very large spike in the number of cases that have been identified over the past couple of weeks in the United States.

00:11:38.000 I'm looking at the day-on-day charts in daily new cases in the United States.

00:11:42.000 And take, for example, as of June 30th.

00:11:44.000 As of June 30th, there were 46,000 identified cases in the United States.

00:11:48.000 As of July 17th, there were 75,000 reported cases in the United States.

00:11:53.000 Yesterday, there were about 67,000 reported cases in the United States.

00:11:57.000 But the death count didn't escalate anywhere near like that.

00:12:00.000 So I just used June 29th or June 30th as the baseline.

00:12:04.000 So if you look at June 30th in terms of the deaths, then what you are seeing is about 726 deaths on June 30th.

00:12:10.000 Now remember, it's a lagging indicator, so that really kinda measures June 15th.

00:12:13.000 So what you'd really wanna do is measure a couple of weeks out from then.

00:12:15.000 So you'd wanna look at like mid-July.

00:12:17.000 Mid-July, you're looking at about 1,000 deaths a day, right, from that spike.

00:12:22.000 Maybe that continues.

00:12:23.000 Maybe we see, you know, 1,500 deaths a day.

00:12:25.000 Maybe we see 2,000 deaths a day.

00:12:28.000 I kind of doubt it.

00:12:29.000 I think that we've gotten better at treating this thing in hospitals, but we're not going to know that for a couple of weeks.

00:12:33.000 One thing is true.

00:12:34.000 The idea that we are back at New York levels, New York epidemic levels, where 1,000 people a day were dying in New York alone.

00:12:42.000 We're not there, nor are we likely to be there.

00:12:45.000 States that have been heavily criticized like California, states that have been heavily criticized like Texas and Florida, really, those are states that are experiencing at their height like 140, 150 deaths a day, Which is not good, right?

00:12:54.000 You don't like that.

00:12:55.000 That's not a good thing.

00:12:56.000 But to take yesterday's totals, Florida experienced 132 deaths, Texas experienced 118 deaths.

00:12:59.000 Those are bad numbers?

00:13:05.000 Those numbers will likely increase.

00:13:06.000 They're not going to increase the levels of New York.

00:13:08.000 You're not going to see a thousand deaths a day in Florida.

00:13:10.000 You're not going to see a thousand deaths a day in Texas, particularly because the thing has already started to recede in a lot of these states.

00:13:17.000 But the media are invested in a particular narrative, and the narrative is that everything is going wrong and we are all screwed.

00:13:22.000 The narrative is basically the Nancy Pelosi narrative. 0.77

00:13:24.000 Right, Nancy Pelosi is now calling COVID the Trump virus, which is just, so you're not allowed to call it the Chinese virus, because if you say that it came from China, that means you're a racist, but she's allowed to state it's the Trump virus, even though it has killed hundreds of thousands of people all over the world, did not originate in the United States, and was centralized mainly in democratic states where the governors did a crap job, like Phil Murphy in New Jersey, and like Andrew Cuomo in New York. 0.68

00:13:44.000 But apparently it's all Trump's fault. 0.99

00:13:46.000 I swear, the sort of political idiocy of suggesting, the moral idiocy of suggesting that it's the quote unquote Trump virus, is beyond the pale, but that's what Nancy Pelosi does. Here she was. 0.99

00:13:57.000 Clearly, it is the Trump virus. 0.98

00:14:05.000 The Trump virus.

00:14:06.000 If he had said months ago, let's wear masks, let's socially distance instead of having rallies and political whatever they were, then more people would have followed his lead as the President of the United States.

00:14:21.000 So what you're saying is that thousands of Americans have died because of what the President has done or not done?

00:14:27.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:14:28.000 Yeah.

00:14:29.000 Yes, that's what I'm saying.

00:14:31.000 I think it's clearly evident.

00:14:33.000 It's clearly evident that if the president had done what exactly?

00:14:36.000 Like really, what was the president supposed to do that he did not do?

00:14:39.000 I'm livid with the Trump campaign, frankly, that they've not put out a commercial just showing all the various governors from Whitmer to Jay Inslee to Andrew Cuomo to Gavin Newsom saying openly and positively that Trump gave them what they need, which is true, which is true.

00:14:53.000 Again, Trump's done a horrible job in terms of the optics of COVID.

00:14:55.000 But in terms of the actual policy of COVID, Other than he didn't put on a mask himself.

00:15:01.000 What exactly is the big critique here?

00:15:03.000 Like seriously, what's the big critique? 0.67

00:15:04.000 We lost a couple of months because the CDC didn't do its damn job and get the tests ready and turned down testing from other places.

00:15:10.000 We are now doing more tests a day than any place on the planet. 0.81

00:15:12.000 It is not close.

00:15:13.000 We're doing millions of tests a day in the United States.

00:15:15.000 We've done 47 million tests at this point in the United States.

00:15:18.000 And we're not doing millions, we're doing certainly half a million, hundreds of thousands of tests every single day in the United States.

00:15:24.000 So calling it the Trump virus is just the purest form of chaos politics.

00:15:28.000 And Democrats at this point are rooting for chaos. 1.00

00:15:30.000 And you listen to Beto O'Rourke, who is the id of the stupid Democratic, Beto, still hanging around. 1.00

00:15:36.000 Yeah, I'm a loser, but I have things to say from my mansion paid for by my father. 1.00

00:15:41.000 Go, Beto, go! 1.00

00:15:43.000 Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who on Fox News said, there are more important things than living.

00:15:49.000 In other words, let's get on with the dying, knowing full well that it will be those frontline workers making $7.25 an hour, which is a minimum wage in Texas.

00:15:57.000 It will be African Americans, it will be Latinos and Mexican Americans, who will be doing the dying right here in Texas. 1.00

00:16:03.000 This is a death cult. 1.00

00:16:05.000 The Texas GOP. 0.98

00:16:06.000 Only they want you to do the dying.

00:16:09.000 And that's exactly what is happening in Texas right now. 0.73

00:16:11.000 Okay, this is just sick.

00:16:12.000 It's just sick.

00:16:13.000 Nobody wants anybody to do the dying.

00:16:15.000 The question is, can we have any semblance of a normal life in an arena where, at most, 5 to 10 people in every 1,000 are dying of COVID?

00:16:25.000 Can we have anything resembling a normal life?

00:16:27.000 When if you protect the nursing homes and protect the most vulnerable, that number looks more like 3 in every 10,000.

00:16:33.000 3 in every 1,000 are dying.

00:16:34.000 Can you have anything that resembles a normal life like that?

00:16:36.000 I think the answer is yes.

00:16:37.000 I think you can mitigate the risk and get that number down from 3 in 1,000 to maybe 1 in 1,000 or maybe you make it so that fewer people are infected with the masks and with the social distancing.

00:16:46.000 But if Beto O'Rourke's idea is that we are supposed to cower in our house until the end of time, then he's just rooting for chaos.

00:16:51.000 And it feels like there are a lot of people who are rooting for chaos at this point.

00:16:53.000 I don't think Kayleigh McEnany, the White House press secretary, is wrong when she says members of the media are trying to scare you.

00:16:58.000 If you watch the media coverage, all you have seen is that the caseload is rising across the United States.

00:17:03.000 It's about to swamp the system.

00:17:04.000 There is no evidence the system was swamped anywhere in the United States with the exception of certain hospitals in New York.

00:17:09.000 Okay, that evidence does not exist in Florida.

00:17:11.000 It does not exist in Houston.

00:17:12.000 It does not exist in Dallas.

00:17:13.000 It does not exist in Los Angeles.

00:17:16.000 The people of the United States have largely been what I thought they would be.

00:17:20.000 Responsible.

00:17:20.000 They've largely adopted mask wearing.

00:17:22.000 This has been true for months.

00:17:23.000 6 in 10 Americans say they wear a mask every time they go out of the house right now.

00:17:27.000 And that is true in red states as well as blue states.

00:17:30.000 Most Americans are being careful about how they act here.

00:17:33.000 Okay, but the media are indeed trying to alarm everybody, and then they downplay any good news, right?

00:17:38.000 I mean, there have been actual headlines saying that, you know, the death rate from COVID is down, fewer people are dying as infections rise, but we shouldn't consider that good news.

00:17:45.000 Why should we not consider that good news?

00:17:46.000 I consider that excellent news.

00:17:48.000 I saw a study yesterday that suggested that death rates in hospitals is down 79% because we've learned how to treat this thing better.

00:17:54.000 That is a really good piece of news, and it should inform public policy.

00:17:57.000 If a disease becomes more treatable, that means it is less risky to the general population.

00:18:02.000 Is it not?

00:18:04.000 You should hear the good news and the bad news, right?

00:18:05.000 You should be concerned.

00:18:06.000 You should not be panicked.

00:18:07.000 The media is pushing panic.

00:18:08.000 And then there are people who are pushing utter unconcern.

00:18:10.000 I'm not pushing utter unconcern.

00:18:11.000 I'm pushing rational concern.

00:18:13.000 That means you take rational action.

00:18:16.000 That's what a lot of members of the media and the Democratic Party apparently are not interested in.

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00:19:31.000 Okay, so, yesterday, President Trump Re-upped his daily press conferences.

00:19:36.000 He decided to go out there and do his press conferences again.

00:19:38.000 The reason that he had stopped doing them is because he kept going out there and saying weird things during his press conference, to put it mildly. 0.86

00:19:44.000 Suggesting that if you shine a UV light up your butt or something that it was going to cure COVID.

00:19:48.000 But with that said, the president does need to show leadership because that's apparently all the media care about. 1.00

00:19:53.000 Andrew Cuomo could be the garbage, the most garbage governor in America, which by the way, by evidence he is. 0.99

00:19:59.000 But as long as he was going out there and acting like a leader on TV, that's all that mattered to folks. 0.99

00:20:06.000 So Trump going back out there and acting like a leader is fairly necessary here.

00:20:09.000 Trump came out yesterday and said, listen, it'll probably get worse before it gets better.

00:20:12.000 That's true in terms of the deaths, right?

00:20:14.000 Because again, death is a trailing indicator.

00:20:15.000 It's a lagging indicator.

00:20:16.000 So if you've seen a rise in cases over the past two weeks, even if it's receded in places like Texas, Florida, and Arizona right now, that means that you will see some escalating death rates for probably the next week, week and a half.

00:20:27.000 Are those escalating death rates going to bring us to New York rates?

00:20:29.000 Not even close.

00:20:30.000 Not even close.

00:20:30.000 But here's President Trump rightly saying that it's going to get worse for a little while here.

00:20:35.000 There is no cure.

00:20:35.000 And so we have to be careful.

00:20:38.000 We are in the process of developing a strategy that's going to be very, very powerful.

00:20:45.000 We've developed them as we go along.

00:20:47.000 Some areas of our country are doing very well.

00:20:49.000 Others are doing less well.

00:20:52.000 It will probably, unfortunately, get worse before it gets better.

00:20:56.000 Something I don't like saying about things, but that's the way it is.

00:20:59.000 It's the way, it's what we have.

00:21:01.000 You look over the world, it's all over the world.

00:21:04.000 And it tends to do that.

00:21:06.000 Okay, and President Trump also added that now would be a good time to wear a mask.

00:21:09.000 So finally, he said wear a mask.

00:21:11.000 Does that mean people will now lay off of him?

00:21:13.000 And suggest that, no, it means that they're gonna say, why didn't he say wear a mask earlier?

00:21:16.000 If only he had said wear a mask earlier, this would have ended all of this stuff.

00:21:20.000 Again, the fact is, the United States has adopted mask-wearing for months, at a higher rate than most of Northern Europe, for example.

00:21:26.000 We wear masks in the United States at a higher rate than Canada does.

00:21:29.000 And mask-wearing across the United States, you can't just aggregate the stats.

00:21:33.000 You can't just say that mask-wearing in New York is exactly like mask-wearing in the middle of rural Kansas, because those are two very different areas.

00:21:39.000 If you're in the middle of a place where people are naturally socially distanced, you don't have to wear a mask as often.

00:21:44.000 So kind of aggregating that stat doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

00:21:47.000 In any case, here's President Trump saying, yeah, you know, just go ahead and put on a mask.

00:21:50.000 Young adults may often have mild or even no symptoms.

00:21:54.000 They won't even know they're sick.

00:21:56.000 They won't have any idea that they have a virus.

00:21:59.000 They won't have any idea at all.

00:22:01.000 America's youth will act responsibly, and we're asking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask, get a mask.

00:22:11.000 Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact, they'll have an effect, and we need everything we can get.

00:22:18.000 Hey, so he finally says wear a mask and the media comes down on him.

00:22:21.000 Anyway, and finally, this was the headline that was completely ignored.

00:22:24.000 Everybody keeps saying Trump is blowing this.

00:22:25.000 Why isn't Trump doing X, Y, and Z?

00:22:27.000 But they don't actually explain what X, Y, and Z are.

00:22:29.000 Trump says, by the way, we have no request for equipment.

00:22:31.000 Across the country.

00:22:31.000 None.

00:22:32.000 States have what they need.

00:22:33.000 Which means he did his job.

00:22:35.000 I got criticized a little bit yesterday for suggesting that the Trump administration policy was actually not bad.

00:22:40.000 Well, isn't a pretty good indicator that the Trump administration policy on this is not bad?

00:22:44.000 That governors aren't coming hat in hand to ask for things because they got what they needed?

00:22:47.000 Here was Trump yesterday.

00:22:49.000 My administration currently has zero unfilled requests for, unfulfilled requests for, uh...

00:22:58.000 Equipment or anything else that they need from the governor's no governor needs anything right now, and we think we'll have it that way Till the end because frankly we are stocked up and ready to go wherever we have to go we've nearly 7,000 National Guard and military medical personnel in Texas, California, Florida and Arizona that's helping us greatly The media won't cover that.

00:23:21.000 The media won't cover the fact that hospitals have not been overwhelmed, the fact that death rates have gone down, and the fact that the feds have given people what they need.

00:23:25.000 Because that would suggest that things are kind of working.

00:23:27.000 Right?

00:23:28.000 And the media don't want that narrative.

00:23:29.000 They don't want it.

00:23:30.000 And by the way, we are going to have to make some tough decisions about how we live our lives.

00:23:33.000 Because for all the talk about vaccine development, Vaccine companies are testifying they may, may have a vaccine ready to go in six months, which means that for the general public, it may not be ready.

00:23:43.000 Fauci said this yesterday.

00:23:44.000 It may not be ready until at least the middle of 2021 and maybe the tail end of 2021.

00:23:49.000 You think we're fully locking down like LA is talking about again for a second time?

00:23:53.000 You think we're fully locking down all the way till the end of 2021 for a disease that has a death rate in people who are not The elderly of three in 1,000.

00:24:01.000 You think that's a thing that people are going to go along with forever?

00:24:04.000 I have some doubts.

00:24:06.000 Again, the vaccine companies testified on the Hill yesterday.

00:24:07.000 They said, well, you know, maybe we'll have a vaccine in six months.

00:24:09.000 Listen, I would love to have a vaccine today, but let's be real about this.

00:24:13.000 People are living their lives.

00:24:14.000 Every day that you live your life is a day that you move toward your death.

00:24:17.000 OK, every day still counts.

00:24:19.000 It's not as though life lengthens on the other end of life.

00:24:22.000 Like I get that we want to preserve as many lives as possible.

00:24:25.000 I'm on board with that.

00:24:26.000 But also, we would like to preserve quality of life.

00:24:29.000 That's a thing that matters.

00:24:30.000 And it turns out that we make risk mitigation efforts every day, and we take into account risks, and then we act.

00:24:35.000 And here is a vaccine CEO explaining to Congress that, yeah, maybe we'll have one in six months, maybe not.

00:24:42.000 According to statements from several of the companies testifying today, and based on the speed at which they are progressing through clinical trials, it is possible that a COVID-19 vaccine may become available by the end of this year or early next year.

00:24:57.000 That's a rare bit of good news in this harrowing time.

00:25:00.000 But while some public health experts are bullish on the development of a vaccine, we must remind ourselves that plenty can still go wrong.

00:25:10.000 Okay, and this would be something to keep in mind, because you've been told that you gotta lock down forever, or you're gonna die, and that ain't true.

00:25:17.000 That's a false choice.

00:25:18.000 Alrighty, in just a second, we're gonna get to the rooting for chaos, which doesn't just exist in the level of COVID, although it's most clear there.

00:25:24.000 It exists maybe more clearly when it comes to public safety.

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00:26:50.000 So, meanwhile, the rooting for chaos continues with regards to public safety.

00:26:55.000 So you may have noticed that chaos has absolutely continued in Portland.

00:26:58.000 We got chaos in Chicago. 0.98

00:27:00.000 We got chaos all over the country as the idiot defund the police crowd and their Democratic media allies have made cities across the United States significantly less safe for American citizens. 0.97

00:27:10.000 Well, in Portland, basically the media ignored for two months, for two rolling months, they ignored the chaos in Portland. 0.97

00:27:16.000 And it wasn't just two months.

00:27:17.000 I mean, Antifa has basically been running the center of the city at the behest of Mayor Ted Wheeler for years.

00:27:23.000 Andy Ngo, a friend of the program, he's been reporting on this.

00:27:26.000 He's been beaten up for his trouble in Portland for reporting on the fact that Antifa would do things like stopping drivers in the middle of the street in broad daylight, and the authorities were told not to do anything.

00:27:35.000 Well, basically, the media had a strategy with Portland.

00:27:37.000 We're going to ignore all the chaos, because we kind of like Antifa, up until the point the feds come in, at which point we will pretend the feds are the aggressors.

00:27:44.000 That's been the narrative promulgated by the media.

00:27:46.000 And it's fully crazy.

00:27:47.000 The only reason to do that is because you are rooting for chaos.

00:27:50.000 And you're rooting for chaos because you think it's going to get rid of Trump.

00:27:52.000 The more chaos there is, the more you think that Trump will go.

00:27:55.000 I cannot come up with any other explanation for this.

00:27:57.000 Because if a Democrat were president, he presumably would not be rooting for chaos in this way.

00:28:02.000 Okay, Mike Baker reporting for the New York Times.

00:28:04.000 With a ski helmet and goggles on her head, Alison Heider recounted how she had told relatives she planned to stand at the rear of protests in downtown Portland.

00:28:10.000 But in the early hours of Tuesday, the grandmother of five found herself right up front, locking arms with other mothers dressed in yellow.

00:28:16.000 So the media have been running cover for all of these kind of protest moms who are standing up front of the protests. 1.00

00:28:23.000 And then they've been ignoring the fact that the protesters are setting up barricades and burning crap, like literally setting things on fire.

00:28:29.000 And resisting federal officers and local officers. 0.97

00:28:32.000 But we have to focus in on naked Athena, the weird naked lady doing yoga poses, standing as a symbol of freedom against these brutal tyrants. 0.96

00:28:40.000 We have to focus in on the moms, the moms. 1.00

00:28:42.000 First of all, let me just say to you, you Antifa protesters out there, if you're calling your mommy because you're too much of a pansy to actually just take the brunt of what you're dishing out, you have to call your mommy to stand as your human shield. 0.99

00:28:53.000 You're, you're a wimp. 0.99

00:28:55.000 You're a wimp for all your faux masculinity. 1.00

00:28:57.000 You're a wimp. 1.00

00:28:58.000 Standing with a pack of other protesters, she chanted in front of the boarded-up entrance to the federal courthouse. 1.00

00:29:03.000 She remained resolute, even as some in the crowd began prying at the wood affixed to the building, leaving Ms.

00:29:07.000 Hyder uneasy about where things were headed.

00:29:09.000 I am the face of anarchy, Ms.

00:29:10.000 Hyder declared.

00:29:11.000 The people of the U.S.

00:29:12.000 need to know.

00:29:12.000 Moms, grandmas, nurses are out here in the middle of the night demanding rights for everybody.

00:29:15.000 Okay, so we're going to focus in on her.

00:29:17.000 Like, isn't the buried headline there that people are prying away boards from the federal courthouse to try and vandalize it again?

00:29:22.000 Wouldn't that be the headline?

00:29:24.000 The demonstrations that have shuddered through Portland for 54 consecutive nights have drawn out a complicated mix of grievances, says the New York Times, with a wide array of people expressing them using a multitude of tactics to make sure they get hurt.

00:29:35.000 Oh, it's just a way of getting heard, guys!

00:29:37.000 You see, if anti-lockdown protesters like to show up and say things, then they're bad racist people who are endangering other people.

00:29:43.000 If you show up to a federal courthouse and try to burn it down, that's just your way of being heard.

00:29:47.000 Don't you see how this works?

00:29:49.000 And if you call your mommy to protect you, that's because you're so brave!

00:29:51.000 Because really, these protesters, they're all 60-year-old moms. 1.00

00:29:54.000 They're not a bunch of woke white kids who are living in their parents' basement and masturbating to anime.

00:30:00.000 In Oregon, a state with a deep history of racism that included racial exclusion laws extending into the 20th century, the Portland protests have persisted since George Floyd's killing, even as BLM demonstrations have waned in many other parts of the country. 0.86

00:30:12.000 Okay, alternatively, Antifa's been making trouble in this area for literally years on end.

00:30:16.000 Some leaders in the black community, grateful for a widespread discussion on race, worry that what should be a moment for racial justice in Portland could be squandered by violence.

00:30:23.000 Oh, you think?

00:30:24.000 Oh, you think?

00:30:26.000 The city's mayor, Ted Wheeler, is angry because the feds are coming in.

00:30:29.000 So here's what's happening.

00:30:30.000 Chaos in the streets of Portland.

00:30:33.000 And when President Trump steps in, then we hear that President Trump is the bad guy.

00:30:36.000 So Oregon's governor said to the feds, Governor Kate Brown, she said, we want you to go home.

00:30:41.000 How about this?

00:30:42.000 Call out these state troopers.

00:30:44.000 You are the governor of the state.

00:30:46.000 Are you okay with the chaos that you are seeing in the streets of Portland?

00:30:48.000 Apparently, the answer is yes, because so long as you can just rip on Trump, everything is good to go.

00:30:53.000 Here's Governor Kate Brown being a horrible public servant. 1.00

00:30:56.000 A horrible public servant, but again, she's not serving the public. 1.00

00:30:59.000 She's serving her own political interests and the interests of her party. 0.98

00:31:02.000 When I spoke to the Secretary of Homeland Security last week, I told them to go home, that their forces are not needed here, they are not wanted here, and they're making a challenging situation worse.

00:31:17.000 As I said, the violence is absolutely unacceptable.

00:31:20.000 We're talking about outliers in terms of protesters.

00:31:25.000 But in Oregon, you know, we solve problems by sitting down.

00:31:29.000 We solve problems by de-escalating a situation and engaging in dialogue.

00:31:35.000 What in the F is this lady talking about? 1.00

00:31:36.000 There have been rolling riots in her cities for 54 straight days.

00:31:41.000 She sounds exactly like the mayor of...

00:31:43.000 Seattle, Jenny Durkin, who sort of whistled past the graveyard on CHOP up until the point where people started getting shot to death in the middle of her major city.

00:31:50.000 Joe Biden.

00:31:51.000 By the way, this should be such a winning issue for Trump, because guess what? 1.00

00:31:54.000 Most Americans don't like this crap. 0.99

00:31:56.000 They do not like watching federal courthouses get burned. 1.00

00:31:58.000 They do not like chaos in their streets.

00:31:59.000 They're not fond of any of this. 0.99

00:32:01.000 And Joe Biden is embracing the suck. 0.99

00:32:03.000 I mean, he really is. 0.99

00:32:03.000 Joe Biden put out a statement. 0.99

00:32:04.000 He's been pretty careful about what he says on this sort of stuff because he doesn't want to appear like a radical.

00:32:10.000 But what he has said on what's going on in Portland is truly insane.

00:32:14.000 He assailed President Trump and his administration for, quote, brutally attacking peaceful protesters and using egregious tactics in response to recent demonstrations in Portland, Oregon.

00:32:23.000 He put out a statement to BuzzFeed.

00:32:24.000 He said, we have a president who is determined to sow chaos and division to make matters worse instead of better.

00:32:29.000 He said we all remember the appalling scenes in front of the White House when peaceful protesters were gassed to make way for a Trump photo op.

00:32:36.000 Now, Homeland Security agents, without a clearly defined mandate or authority, are ranging far from federal property, stripped of badges and insignia and identifying markings to detain people.

00:32:44.000 They are brutally attacking peaceful protesters, including a U.S.

00:32:47.000 Navy veteran.

00:32:49.000 Okay, that's not true.

00:32:50.000 Okay, that's not true.

00:32:51.000 They are fully identified.

00:32:53.000 They have police badges on them.

00:32:54.000 If you look at their shoulders, they have insignia that explain which branch of the government they are from. 1.00

00:32:58.000 In fact, here is a DHS official yesterday cracking back on Joe Biden's idiot statements here. 0.88

00:33:05.000 The fact is, not only is there statutory authority for what the feds are doing right here, they are identifying themselves and they do have the authority to do it. 0.85

00:33:12.000 Here is a DHS official explaining yesterday.

00:33:14.000 This is the identification every single one of them has on their uniform.

00:33:20.000 And this is a baseline.

00:33:21.000 Director Klein said he doesn't have his officers wearing name tags because they're being doxed.

00:33:25.000 That's exactly right.

00:33:26.000 That's another thing that's absolutely disgusting.

00:33:29.000 So they're not only jeopardizing the lives of the agents, but they're also jeopardizing the lives of their families as they're putting out their home information and they're suggesting that individuals go to their homes.

00:33:40.000 So yes, I, as the acting commissioner, have authorized and supported removing their names from their uniform.

00:33:47.000 Instead, what we have, though, is a personal identifier.

00:33:50.000 Okay, so he is correct about this, but we've heard from Biden that it's the fascists in the streets, the jackboots in the streets.

00:33:57.000 Kayleigh McEnany over at the White House yesterday, she said, by the way, we do have statutory authority for this.

00:34:02.000 There's statutory authority to assist the Department of Homeland Security by shifting forces from, for example, Customs and Border Patrol.

00:34:08.000 Like, there's statutory authority. 0.97

00:34:10.000 Idiot Jamal Bowie at the New York Times, of course, has a piece talking about how this is just awful and a violation of all law. 0.98

00:34:16.000 He admits, by the way, in his column that there is lawful authority to do all this stuff and lots of precedent. 0.98

00:34:21.000 He says the difference lies less in the acts themselves than in the way these events developed.

00:34:25.000 Use of military force against strikers and protesters is certainly controversial, but for the most part, it unfolds along clear lines of responsibility and involves powers expressly granted to the president.

00:34:35.000 Okay, the president does have the ability under the Insurrection Act to call in federal forces to quell exactly this sort of activity.

00:34:41.000 There is statutory authority.

00:34:42.000 There have been no constitutional allegations of violations.

00:34:45.000 Jamal Bowie just doesn't like it because Trump's doing it and because he is sympathetic to the goals of the people who are militating in favor of chaos.

00:34:52.000 This is a secretive nationwide police force, created without congressional input or authorization, formed from highly politicized agencies.

00:34:58.000 Highly politicized agencies, by the way, according to Jamel Buie, means agencies where people are sympathetic to Trump.

00:35:04.000 That's what highly politicized means.

00:35:05.000 So the State Department, which is very much a left-leaning department, not highly politicized.

00:35:10.000 ICE, because there are a lot of people who support Trump, highly politicized, according to Jamel Buie, which means they're bad, which means they're a tyrannical wing of the U.S.

00:35:16.000 government.

00:35:17.000 Anyway, here's Kayleigh McEnany explaining.

00:35:19.000 Yes, in fact, there is legal authority to do this.

00:35:21.000 What you're referring to is Portland and 40 U.S.

00:35:23.000 Code 1315 gives DHS the ability to deputize officers in any department or agency like ICE, Customs and Border Patrol, and Secret Service, quote, as officers and agents.

00:35:34.000 They can be deputized for the duty of in connection with the protection of property owned or occupied by the federal government and persons on that property.

00:35:41.000 And when a federal courthouse is being Lit on fire, commercial fireworks being shot at it, being shot at the officers.

00:35:47.000 I think that that falls pretty well within the limits of 40 U.S.

00:35:51.000 Code 1315.

00:35:52.000 Right, and she's talking specifically about U.S.

00:35:54.000 code that prevents the assault of federal property.

00:35:57.000 And she's correct about this.

00:35:58.000 There is authority to do this.

00:36:00.000 Nonetheless, as we'll see, Democrats are militating in favor of the rioters and looters, which means they're rooting for the chaos.

00:36:05.000 They want the chaos.

00:36:06.000 The chaos is good for them politically, and they are happy to castigate, as Gestapo, members of federal law enforcement, who are identified as such. 0.68

00:36:15.000 At this point, you have to say these are folks in the Democratic Party, in the media, promulgating this narrative who do not care about law-abiding citizens.

00:36:21.000 They don't.

00:36:21.000 They're willing to abandon law-abiding citizens in favor of rioters and looters.

00:36:25.000 So I don't know where you would put them on the good-for-America scale, but I don't think it would be on the good-for-America side, particularly, because this isn't good for America.

00:36:33.000 It ain't.

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00:37:52.000 It is a wild thing.

00:37:54.000 I haven't seen anything quite like this since the Ferguson stuff.

00:37:57.000 During the Ferguson riots, there were members of the Democratic Party who were sort of rooting for it, but not this clearly.

00:38:02.000 Not to the point where the president issues federal orders to shut it down, and the Democrats are overtly calling members of federal law enforcement Gestapo.

00:38:11.000 It's pretty insane.

00:38:12.000 We'll get to this in one second first.

00:38:14.000 As you know, my new book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps, it is on sale right now.

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00:38:27.000 You are watching them in action.

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00:38:37.000 And the other looks at all those things as bad.

00:38:38.000 We can't have a shared philosophy.

00:38:40.000 We can't share a culture.

00:38:41.000 We can't share a history.

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00:38:44.000 American philosophy is rooted in brutal exploitation.

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00:38:51.000 Disintegrationists use weapons like cancel culture, deleting or silencing people or anyone that disagrees with them to build a whole new world order. 0.91

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00:39:38.000 And the media are lying to you on a regular basis, right?

00:39:41.000 They're saying Portland is peaceful up until the feds got there.

00:39:43.000 They're saying COVID-19 going to kill everyone unless we lock down full scale and it's the Trump virus.

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00:40:41.000 All righty, so as I say, the chaos is across the country, right?

00:40:50.000 It is not just in Portland.

00:40:52.000 Chicago is completely chaotic, which drove President Trump to say yesterday, listen, if I have to deploy federal agents to Chicago to stop the chaos, I'll deploy federal agents to Chicago to stop the chaos.

00:41:00.000 Which, by the way, he probably needs to do.

00:41:01.000 Here was Trump.

00:41:03.000 How about Chicago?

00:41:04.000 I read the numbers were many people killed over the weekend.

00:41:08.000 We're looking at Chicago, too.

00:41:10.000 Would you say they need help after this weekend?

00:41:12.000 Do you know the numbers?

00:41:13.000 Did you hear the numbers?

00:41:15.000 Many, many shot.

00:41:16.000 Many, many killed.

00:41:18.000 Many.

00:41:19.000 I'm not talking about one, two.

00:41:23.000 Was it 18 people killed?

00:41:25.000 I think more than that.

00:41:26.000 And you ended up over the summer.

00:41:29.000 This is worse than Afghanistan, by far. 1.00

00:41:32.000 This is worse than anything anyone's ever seen.

00:41:36.000 Okay, so Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, she immediately starts screaming about this on Twitter. 0.98

00:41:41.000 She says, under no circumstances will I allow Donald Trump's troops to come to Chicago and terrorize our residents.

00:41:46.000 Really, what you gonna do?

00:41:47.000 Really, what you gonna do?

00:41:48.000 You gonna deploy the Chicago PD to fight off America's federal law enforcement trying to enforce the law?

00:41:53.000 Yes, clearly the threat to Chicago citizens comes from federal law enforcement trying to enforce the law.

00:41:58.000 Probably that's the big issue.

00:41:59.000 Oh yeah, by the way, last week, 18 police officers were injured at a Chicago quote-unquote protest.

00:42:06.000 The police said that they were outnumbered and unprepared, is according to CNN.

00:42:10.000 Approaching a statue of Christopher Columbus, some people in the crowd used rocks, fireworks, frozen bottles, and other objects to attack officers, according to a statement from the PD.

00:42:18.000 18 officers were injured.

00:42:19.000 Some were taken to area hospitals by paramedics for further treatment.

00:42:22.000 Some were treated at the scene.

00:42:24.000 At a news conference Saturday, activists demanded the immediate defunding of the police department. 0.97

00:42:28.000 Oh yeah, and by the way, literally as Lori Lightfoot, the idiot mayor of Chicago, terrible mayor of Chicago, was talking about how she doesn't want federal law enforcement in her city, at least 16 people were shot at a Chicago funeral home. 0.91

00:42:42.000 The gunfire, according to Breaking 911, broke out at the Graham Funeral Home located at 1018 West 79th Street in the city's Auburn-Gresham neighborhood. 0.98

00:42:49.000 According to CBS 2, there was some kind of planned ambush outside the funeral home where a memorial service was going on for a homicide victim.

00:42:56.000 Chicago Fire Department reports at least 11 victims taken to the hospital, all listed in various condition.

00:43:01.000 So good times over in Chicago, but the problem, obviously, obviously is President Trump.

00:43:05.000 When Trump says we need to use federal power to protect the life, liberty, and property of the citizenry of the United States, Democrats are fighting back against that.

00:43:13.000 They're fighting back against that.

00:43:14.000 Now, you want to say, listen, we're doing it ourselves?

00:43:17.000 That'd be one thing.

00:43:17.000 But you're not doing it yourselves.

00:43:18.000 You're talking about defunding your own police, and in some areas, letting looters and rioters run roughshod through your major cities, and then you're ripping on Trump?

00:43:25.000 This is Trump's fault?

00:43:26.000 Listen to the insane statement put out by Nancy Pelosi and Representative Earl Blumenauer of Portland, Oregon.

00:43:32.000 As our nation mourns the loss of our colleague and beloved civil rights leader John Lewis, we are again reminded of the immense power of peaceful protest in the fight against racial injustice and police brutality.

00:43:40.000 This is not peaceful protest in Portland.

00:43:42.000 They're attempting to burn down the local courthouse every night.

00:43:46.000 They're committing acts of vandalism.

00:43:47.000 They're committing acts of property destruction.

00:43:49.000 They're committing acts of violence.

00:43:51.000 That is not what John Lewis did to defame John Lewis by suggesting that sitting at a segregated lunch counter in protest is the same thing as firing fireworks at a federal courthouse is patently nuts. 0.95

00:44:02.000 It is nuts. 0.99

00:44:02.000 It is insane. 0.99

00:44:04.000 It's it's I have to say, the gaslighting that is now being engaged in by Democrats in the media is totally wild.

00:44:09.000 So on the one hand, they say, well, you know, these protests are mostly protests.

00:44:12.000 They're mostly peaceful.

00:44:14.000 Now, again, that term is such, it's such mush.

00:44:17.000 Mostly peaceful, you know.

00:44:19.000 Like, as I've said before, O.J.

00:44:21.000 Simpson, the night he killed his ex-wife, mostly peaceful that night.

00:44:25.000 Like, for the hours between sunset and sunrise, mostly a peaceful night.

00:44:29.000 It was really that like, you know, 45 minute gap right in the middle where it got really not peaceful, but most of the night was peaceful.

00:44:34.000 Like, what exactly is that supposed to mean?

00:44:37.000 If you want to say there's a difference between protesters and the rioters and looters, totally on board, totally agree.

00:44:41.000 But then you can't just pretend that the rioting and the looting doesn't exist.

00:44:44.000 Or when it does happen, say that that's part of the generalized protest and hope that we're not going to notice what you just did right there.

00:44:50.000 You either have to separate the two groups or you have to conflate the two groups.

00:44:53.000 You do not get to do some, sometimes one and sometimes the other, whatever floats your boat.

00:44:58.000 According to Nancy Pelosi, she says, Again, the president should not have had the Park Service use tear gas to disperse peaceful protesters in Washington Square Park.

00:45:04.000 Americans. Last month, the administration tear gassed peaceful protesters in Washington, D.C.

00:45:08.000 Again, the president should not have had the Park Service use tear gas to disperse peaceful protesters in Washington Square Park or in Lafayette Park, rather. It is also true that, according to the Park Service, there were objects being thrown at the police officers at the time.

00:45:22.000 But here's where it goes crazy.

00:45:24.000 Even if you think that was bad, that is not the same thing as we're deploying federal officers who are clearly labeled as such to enforce the law when people are violating it.

00:45:33.000 Now, listen to this language from Nancy Pelosi.

00:45:35.000 This is nuts.

00:45:35.000 Videos show them kidnapping protesters in unmarked cars in Portland, all with the goal of inflaming tensions for their own gain.

00:45:42.000 No, they are detaining and arresting suspects.

00:45:46.000 That is perfectly legal.

00:45:48.000 Where are the civil rights lawsuits?

00:45:49.000 Seriously, where are they?

00:45:50.000 And normally when someone gets detained without any cause whatsoever and then arrested, are these people going to Gitmo?

00:45:55.000 What happened to all of them?

00:45:57.000 Where are all the horror stories from people who are being unjustly rounded up and sent to Gitmo?

00:46:02.000 Where are they?

00:46:03.000 They don't exist because it ain't happening.

00:46:05.000 While Portland is the president's current target, any city could be next.

00:46:07.000 Could it?

00:46:08.000 Could it really?

00:46:09.000 You really think that any city is going to be next?

00:46:11.000 Or maybe it's the city where there have been 54 days of running rioting.

00:46:13.000 Maybe it's that one.

00:46:15.000 I mean, just out of the blue, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna say probably that one.

00:46:18.000 We live in a democracy, not a banana republic, says Nancy Pelosi, the leader of the banana republic.

00:46:23.000 She says, we will not tolerate the use of Oregonians, Washingtonians, or any other Americans as props in Trump's political games.

00:46:28.000 You know who the real props are?

00:46:29.000 The American citizenry.

00:46:30.000 Law-abiding American citizens.

00:46:31.000 Those are the props.

00:46:33.000 Like, for example, you know who's a prop?

00:46:35.000 A prop is Horace Lorenzo Anderson Jr., a 19-year-old black man shot and killed in the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest Zone.

00:46:41.000 For weeks, we were told that Chop Chaz was the newest element of the beautiful leftist revolution that we were seeing. 0.71

00:46:47.000 We were told that it was basically a city street fair, according to Mayor Jenny Durkan.

00:46:51.000 When Trump said, I'll send in the feds, the Democrats were like, you can't do that.

00:46:54.000 This is a beautiful outpouring of democracy.

00:46:56.000 And then people started getting shot.

00:46:58.000 Well now, Danita Sinclair-Martin, the mother of Horace Lorenzo Anderson Jr., is suing the city of Seattle because city officials abandoned the six-block autonomous zone, leaving her injured and bleeding son to wait for emergency care that never arrived.

00:47:09.000 The Seattle Times reports the mother of the 19-year-old Seattle man fatally shot in Chop Chaz filed a wrongful death claim against the city of Seattle, alleging city officials created a dangerous environment.

00:47:18.000 Yeah, you think?

00:47:19.000 You think?

00:47:20.000 Anderson and another man, a 33-year-old, were shot multiple times near the boundary of the chop zone.

00:47:25.000 But protesters blocked emergency vehicles and other first responders from attending to Lorenzo Anderson Jr.

00:47:30.000 You're never going to hear about Lorenzo Anderson Jr.

00:47:32.000 from the Democratic Party.

00:47:34.000 You're just not going to hear about him.

00:47:36.000 Just disappears.

00:47:38.000 Because the narrative is that Trump is a fascist, and so we will foster chaos just so that when Trump responds, we'll call him a fascist. 0.94

00:47:44.000 This is what Kamala Harris was doing last night. 1.00

00:47:46.000 Again, the Democrats are lying to you.

00:47:49.000 They are lying to you.

00:47:49.000 When they say that this is just about Trump silencing protests, Did I miss the part where over the last eight weeks you saw literally probably tens of millions of people in the streets in the middle of a pandemic protesting and nothing happening to them?

00:48:01.000 I mean, I live in LA.

00:48:02.000 We shut down the entire city of Los Angeles, not just so that protesters could go out in violation of pandemic code, but so that protesters could turn into rioters and looters and completely ransack Melrose Boulevard.

00:48:13.000 I am old enough to remember that because I'm more than four weeks old.

00:48:16.000 But now Senator Kamala Harris from my state of California, she said, let's be clear what Trump is doing.

00:48:20.000 He's trying to silence and punish those protesting police brutality and demanding racial justice across our country.

00:48:27.000 Yesterday, I joined my colleagues on a bill to block the Trump administration from deploying paramilitary forces against Americans.

00:48:33.000 This is purely insane.

00:48:34.000 I mean, it's just crazy.

00:48:36.000 It's just crazy.

00:48:37.000 And frankly, it should be a winning issue for Trump, because if the Democrats insist on embracing actual chaos and violence and labeling America's federal law enforcement Gestapo, which is what James Clyburn of South Carolina did yesterday, then I don't know what to tell you.

00:48:51.000 I don't think most Americans stand with that.

00:48:53.000 I really don't.

00:48:54.000 I think Americans are willing to virtue signal about how much they dislike the police up until the point when their property is getting burned.

00:48:59.000 And at that point, they're like, oh, you know what?

00:49:01.000 I think we could use the cops right now.

00:49:02.000 Just a little bit.

00:49:04.000 And meanwhile, the House GOP is in a state of disarray.

00:49:09.000 Like, you'd think now would be a pretty good time to be unified?

00:49:11.000 Apparently not, because everything revolves around Trump.

00:49:14.000 So yesterday, members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, according to Politico, tore into Representative Liz Cheney during a heated GOP conference meeting on Tuesday, lobbing attacks at her for breaking with President Trump, supporting Dr. Anthony Fauci, and backing a primary opponent to one of their colleagues.

00:49:27.000 Representative Jordan of Ohio, Freedom Caucus co-founder, one of Trump's top allies, called out Cheney, the GOP conference chair, for all the times she has opposed Trump, and began ticking off some recent high-profile examples.

00:49:36.000 While Jordan praised her defense of Trump during impeachment, he also said Cheney's recent rebukes of Trump, which have focused on Trump's handling of coronavirus, Twitter rhetoric, and foreign policy, were not helpful.

00:49:45.000 Representative Annie Biggs of Arizona, head of the Freedom Caucus, even accused Cheney of undermining the GOP's ability to win back the House, and said if someone has a problem with Trump, they should keep it to themselves.

00:49:54.000 Cheney responded by disagreeing with Jordan's assessment, Cheney said, I look forward to hearing your comments about being a team player when we're back in the majority.

00:50:02.000 Okay, if you're directing your ire at Liz Cheney for pointing out when Trump does stuff that is wrong, that's political malfeasance. 0.99

00:50:12.000 I think there are two very different views on how people are going to maintain the House minority maybe win a majority.

00:50:19.000 One is, you tie yourself to Trump.

00:50:20.000 I do not see the evidence that this is going to be a successful electoral strategy.

00:50:23.000 The polling does not suggest it.

00:50:25.000 The Republicans tied themselves to the mast of Trump in 2018 and they got absolutely shellacked.

00:50:29.000 It was a blue wave. 0.64

00:50:30.000 Liz Cheney drawing some distance and doing what I think is the proper thing and saying, of course, I support the president of the United States on policy, but when he says dumb things, I don't support that.

00:50:39.000 That's where most Americans are. 0.62

00:50:42.000 And just because Trump threatens people with Twitter does not mean that the strongest strategy for senators who are up for re-election and in battleground states or House members who are in Purple District, the best strategy is to tie themselves to Trump's leg, to staple Trump to their pant leg.

00:50:55.000 And if Lou Cheney provides cover to some of those members and support to some of those members so they can win those seats, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

00:51:01.000 Again, I like all the people who we're talking about right now.

00:51:03.000 I'm very friendly with every single member we have talked about right now.

00:51:07.000 But let's just say that if you don't have any ideological diversity inside the Republican Party with regard to Trump himself as a figure, you're doing it wrong.

00:51:14.000 And President Trump himself should understand this, right?

00:51:16.000 If Trump wins, he's going to want a House majority that actually supports him.

00:51:20.000 If Trump wins, he's going to want senators that support him.

00:51:23.000 The last thing he should be doing right now is attacking senators or House members who show insufficient loyalty, who refuse to bend the knee.

00:51:29.000 I mean, and House members should not be cudgeling each other into, you have to support everything with regard to President Trump.

00:51:36.000 Like Matt Gaetz tweeted, I disagree.

00:51:38.000 Disagree.

00:51:38.000 I don't see what Liz Cheney has done wrong here.

00:51:39.000 in his agenda. House Republicans deserve better in our conference chair. Liz Cheney should be, should step down or be removed. I disagree, disagree. I don't see what Liz Cheney has done wrong here. And disagreeing with the president on some of the things he has said seems frankly, like a fairly good idea when he says things that are not correct.

00:51:56.000 I mean, for goodness sake, the President of the United States went out yesterday and expressed sympathy for Ghislaine Maxwell, who was the accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein, the procurer for Jeffrey Epstein.

00:52:05.000 Like, are Republicans supposed to defend this?

00:52:07.000 Because that seems like a bad electoral strategy to me.

00:52:09.000 Here was the President yesterday saying that he wishes the best to Ghislaine Maxwell, who was, by all allegations, procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein's rape.

00:52:18.000 This is not a good look for the President.

00:52:19.000 My goodness.

00:52:21.000 Do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men?

00:52:24.000 How do you see that working out?

00:52:25.000 I don't know.

00:52:26.000 I haven't really been following it too much.

00:52:28.000 I just wish her well, frankly.

00:52:30.000 I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach.

00:52:36.000 But I wish her well, whatever it is.

00:52:39.000 I don't know the situation with Prince Andrew.

00:52:41.000 Just don't know.

00:52:42.000 Not aware of it.

00:52:43.000 Okay, so, yeah, again, that is not a good look.

00:52:45.000 And if Liz Cheney is like, eh, I don't like those comments, I don't think that she needs to be shellacked for something like that, obviously. 0.59

00:52:50.000 And again, Republican unity does not mean that you have to be unified on everything Trump-related.

00:52:54.000 It means you should be unified in the face of the big issues, like Democrats being in favor of people burning down cities.

00:52:59.000 Seems like that should be a point of unity.

00:53:00.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I like.

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00:53:15.000 So, I love my Sabbath.

00:53:17.000 The reason I love my Sabbath?

00:53:18.000 I can go through a thousand books.

00:53:20.000 It's just great.

00:53:21.000 I read three books Over Sabbath last week, it was just fantastic.

00:53:25.000 One of them is particularly good.

00:53:27.000 It's called False Alarm by Bjorn Lomberg.

00:53:29.000 I highly recommend it.

00:53:30.000 It's called How Climate Change Panic Costs Us Trillions, Hurts the Poor, and Fails to Fix the Planet.

00:53:34.000 So, Bjorn Lomberg is not, in fact, a climate change denier.

00:53:38.000 He believes that climate change is largely man-made.

00:53:41.000 He believes that it is happening.

00:53:42.000 And he goes through the statistics, using as his model all of the UN information.

00:53:46.000 And that UN information talks about the warming of the climate over the course of the next hundred years.

00:53:51.000 He also has the temerity to challenge a lot of the preconceived notions that are being put out there.

00:53:54.000 A lot of the myths about the Amazon being the lungs of the world and how all of that is dying.

00:53:59.000 The preconceived notion that weather is getting significantly more extreme because of global warming.

00:54:05.000 That the costs of weather getting more extreme are due to the changing of the climate dramatically as opposed to people building in the way.

00:54:12.000 One of the statistics you'll often see is hurricanes are more damaging now than they ever have been.

00:54:16.000 Well, hurricanes actually are not more common now than they ever have been by data.

00:54:20.000 There are some hurricanes that are more powerful, but the real reason they're more damaging is because people have built in the path of the hurricanes.

00:54:26.000 There's a lot more people living in Miami now than were living in Miami in 1900, for example.

00:54:30.000 He also pushes back against the notion that you're going to have millions upon millions of climate refugees, that the rise of the oceans over the course of the next hundred years is going to flood all outlying areas all over the world.

00:54:41.000 He points out that there are some fairly low cost things that we can do to fight back against climate change, right? Certain things are more out there like geoengineering, right? That'd be the attempt to control the climate. But there's fairly good evidence we can do that, but we're still figuring out whether there are any downsides. That'd be firing sulfur basically in the air to create cloud cover, which would presumably lower the temperature, for example. But other things are less out there, right?

00:55:07.000 Beyond innovation.

00:55:08.000 Beyond innovation of new products and services that will lower the cost of so-called green energy.

00:55:13.000 Which, by the way, is not going to come in the form of wind or solar.

00:55:15.000 It's going to be other forms of energy, probably.

00:55:17.000 But what he talks about mostly is mitigation.

00:55:20.000 Mitigation is low-cost stuff.

00:55:21.000 And you'll never hear people in positions of power who are pushing on the global warming stuff talk about the fact that the Paris Climate Accords, if implemented in their entirety, Would lower the changed climate by the end of the century by, I believe, 0.5 degrees Celsius.

00:55:37.000 0.5 degrees Celsius at the cost of trillions and trillions of dollars.

00:55:40.000 Okay, but what they'll never mention is that there are certain things that we can do that are a lot cheaper that actually protect human beings.

00:55:46.000 You can build better seawalls, for example.

00:55:49.000 You can build more dikes. 1.00

00:55:50.000 You can make sure that low-lying areas are better protected.

00:55:54.000 So this is really a MythBusters book.

00:55:56.000 It is really, really worth reading.

00:55:58.000 He goes through, again, a lot of the talk about what exactly is true and what is false on climate change.

00:56:04.000 And his thesis is, should we worry about climate change?

00:56:07.000 Sure.

00:56:07.000 Should we panic about climate change?

00:56:08.000 Absolutely not.

00:56:10.000 And he is right about all of this.

00:56:12.000 He tends to cite exactly the same folks I've cited before.

00:56:14.000 William Nordhaus of Yale University just won the Economics Nobel Prize for his work on climate change. 0.96

00:56:19.000 And he points out that there are costs to policy, and you have to actually look at what are the costs of global warming versus what are the costs of implementing the policy, which means that when the IPCC or the UN says we have to keep the climate from increasing by 1.5 degrees Celsius over the course of the next century, that is undoable and would be incredibly stupid. 0.50

00:56:35.000 It would be actually counterproductive to do that.

00:56:36.000 It would cost far more in terms of growth to the world to take the measures being talked about, essentially ending the use of carbon-based fossil fuels.

00:56:44.000 It would cost much more, particularly to the developing world, than it would to just let climate change happen.

00:56:49.000 And there's sort of a sweet spot in terms of how much you can lower climate change through things like carbon credits and tax bases and mitigation efforts.

00:56:59.000 There's sort of a sweet spot there, and we are nowhere near the sweet spot.

00:57:01.000 So when you hear the climate alarmist, when you hear Greta Thunberg suggesting that we have to basically end all life on Earth in order to prevent the end of all life on Earth, she's just speaking from a position of ignorance.

00:57:11.000 It's just not correct.

00:57:12.000 So, the book is well worth the read.

00:57:15.000 Again, it is a realistic take on climate change that everybody should take a look at.

00:57:19.000 False Alarm by Bjorn Lundberg.

00:57:20.000 Go pick up a copy right now.

00:57:21.000 Okay, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

00:57:24.000 Much more to get to then.

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00:58:06.000 Hillary peddles an election conspiracy theory, Joe Biden wants Islam taught in schools, and the feds finally start arresting anarchists.

The Ben Shapiro Show - July 22, 2020

Rooting For Chaos | Ep. 1057

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