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00:01:33.000I told you yesterday that you shouldn't bother, that I would sum it all up for you here, but you went ahead and you tried to watch it, didn't you?
00:02:47.000But Trump himself was so busy interrupting Biden that basically it was the Justice Kavanaugh Devil's Triangle of interruption and crazy towns.
00:02:54.000So nobody could get a word in edgewise.
00:02:56.000Nobody knew what the hell was going on.
00:02:58.000It was the worst episode of Jerry Springer in history because nobody hit each other with the chair.
00:03:20.000On the right, you're going to get, Donald Trump really took it to him.
00:03:23.000Donald Trump was like a rabid badger last night, which means that he scored a couple of points, but he was so busy being the rabid badger that all of the attention was on the rabid badger.
00:03:33.000In this election cycle, where you believe the race is, is where it was two days ago, is where it currently is today.
00:03:39.000So if you think that Donald Trump has some troubles, And if you look at the national polling, he does.
00:03:43.000If you look at the national polling where Donald Trump is down anywhere from 7 to 10 points nationally, and he is down in literally every swing state, or at the very least running even in about half of them and down in the other half, then last night was a blown opportunity.
00:03:54.000If you want to see Trump win, he needed to come out, and he needed to allow Joe Biden to say dumb things, and then he needed to pick it apart.
00:04:58.000In other words, everybody who liked Trump going in liked Trump coming out.
00:05:01.000Everybody who liked Biden going in liked Biden coming out.
00:05:04.000And everybody in the middle who was like, these both people, they're just terrible, All those people came out thinking both people were terrible.
00:05:11.000Frank Luntz did one of these focus groups.
00:05:15.000I don't tend to put a lot of stock in the focus group.
00:05:16.000The one thing in the Luntz focus group that I did put some stock in is that one third of the people who were in the focus group said they were less likely to vote altogether after watching it.
00:05:25.000Now, maybe that benefits Trump, right?
00:05:27.000If you think that the goal of Trump is to sort of lower the turnout for Biden, that it's a turnout election.
00:05:33.000If you can get people not to show up, then it'll be a low turnout election like last time.
00:05:38.000Then maybe that's part of the strategy.
00:05:39.000Or maybe the strategy last night was for Trump to go so hot out of the gate that he sort of intimidated Biden into silence.
00:05:45.000He was hoping that Biden would sort of collapse under the barrage of blows.
00:05:48.000I mean, I literally compared Trump yesterday to the guy he didn't want to fight in high school because he was going to pull any weapon at his disposal.
00:05:54.000Bricks from the side of the building, a lead pipe from underneath the plumbing supply, a knife out of his back pocket.
00:05:59.000He just didn't know what Trump was going to pull out.
00:07:50.000It brought to the fore everybody's real issues with Trump personally, as opposed to the policies.
00:07:56.000Because if this were just on policy, law and order, versus I won't bash Antifa, if this were about The COVID response, namely, try to keep as much open as possible, keep American life going while protecting people versus lockdown everything.
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00:09:32.000A lot of the debate for Joe Biden was taken up by him just insulting Trump.
00:09:36.000People are focusing in on the fact that Trump insulted Biden a lot.
00:09:38.000Yeah, Biden insulted Trump right back.
00:09:40.000It was basically grumpy old men with Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau, and Walter Matthau here trying to stab Jack Lemmon with a frozen fish.
00:09:48.000Here is Joe Biden telling Trump to shut up.
00:09:52.000He doesn't want to answer the question.
00:09:53.000He doesn't want to answer the question.
00:10:13.000I will say, however, that what Biden was attempting to avoid in that particular exchange, again, so much of these debates comes down to the clips that happen afterward.
00:10:20.000What Trump was trying to get across in that exchange is that Joe Biden literally refused to answer whether he would pack the court.
00:10:27.000He refused it over and over and over again.
00:10:30.000In fact, here is the lead up to Biden saying to Trump that he should shut up, right?
00:11:08.000Okay, and that ended with Chris Wallace bailing out Biden, bailing him out.
00:11:12.000We've reached the end of this question.
00:11:15.000Chris Wallace's behavior last night, as we will see, was not exactly wonderful.
00:11:18.000I think he started off with good intentions, and by about 20 minutes in, he decided that his chief goal was to get Trump to stop interrupting, and so it became just, Wallace became one of the debaters.
00:12:19.000And it's one point where after one of these, again, talkovers, if you're the transcriptionist for this particular debate, you had the worst job in America last night.
00:12:28.000But here was Joe Biden, you know, kind of ironically saying this was a productive segment and Chris Wallace chuckling along with him.
00:14:27.000And as we'll see, he ain't no bulwark of moderation here.
00:14:32.000This I thought was the worst moments of the night, and everybody ignored this.
00:14:35.000Because I know that this has become part of our traditional rhetoric now, but it is the worst part of America's political discourse right now.
00:14:42.000This accusation that America is systemically racist.
00:14:45.000Which again, for those who missed it, I've been discussing this for months.
00:14:48.000The term systemically racist springs originally from Stokely Carmichael, who used the term institutional racism to describe any institution that results in inequality between racial groups.
00:14:58.000In other words, the only way that you can tell if an institution is racist is the inequality of the result.
00:15:03.000And any inequality of result renders the institution racist.
00:15:07.000That means that all institutions have to be burned to the ground because they are racist, right?
00:15:10.000All of them have to be fundamentally remolded because they are racist.
00:15:14.000Here is Joe Biden, an institutionalist to the core, supposedly, a man who's been in the United States Senate or in the vice presidency for 47 long years, a servant of the system, so to speak, declaring that the entire American system is two-tiered.
00:15:28.000First of all, it is a lie about America, a vicious lie about America.
00:15:31.000Second, it is a vicious lie about Americans.
00:15:33.000And third, it is a damning calumny against the prospects of black Americans.
00:15:38.000When you tell black Americans they cannot rise under any circumstances because the system is so rigged against them, you're telling them a lie.
00:15:44.000To tell a child that is a form of child abuse in a free country.
00:15:47.000And yet Joe Biden engages in this myth-making, this Ibram X. Kendi, Robin DiAngelo bullcrap.
00:15:53.000He does it every single day and he gets away with it.
00:15:56.000And we'll get to Chris Wallace in a second because Chris Wallace not only let him get away with it, he helped promulgate this nonsense last night.
00:16:02.000But here is Joe Biden saying what I thought was the worst thing of the night that apparently nobody picks up on because it is just so such a part of our rote politics.
00:16:10.000Do you believe that there is a separate but unequal system of justice for blacks in this country?
00:16:47.000We abolished legalized racism in the 1960s.
00:16:49.000That doesn't mean that we've abolished all racism from the human heart, because that exists literally everywhere at every time throughout human history.
00:16:57.000But the very basic idea that America's institutions are rooted in racism That the justice system today is systemically racist.
00:17:05.000It's designed to keep down black people.
00:17:06.000The economic system is designed to keep down black people.
00:17:08.000These are talking points from the neo-Marxist left.
00:17:10.000How exactly was Joe Biden allowed to get away with that?
00:17:12.000Where was the follow-up question there?
00:17:16.000Why wouldn't Chris Wallace say, okay, and your plans to fix these systemically racist systems are to?
00:17:24.000That's only one of the bad things that Joe Biden said last night.
00:17:27.000There were many bad things he said last night.
00:17:30.000And that he got away with because everybody was so distracted by the fact that Trump was like a woodpecker over here against the tree nearby.
00:18:44.000Okay, so, more nonsense spouted by Joe Biden last night, and there was a lot of it.
00:18:55.000So, here was an amazing flip-flop on the Green New Deal.
00:18:57.000Inside of 30 seconds, he said he is for the Green New Deal and that it is actually going to save us money.
00:19:03.000This would be the Green New Deal that cost him $90 trillion.
00:19:05.000He's proposed some bizarre sort of scaled down version of the Green New Deal, but AOC is part of his campaign and is helping to head up his panel on climate change.
00:19:15.000He specifically says in his own platform that he's in favor of the Green New Deal.
00:19:18.000His vice presidential candidate, Kamala Harris, was a co-sponsor in the Senate of the Green New Deal.
00:19:23.000So you don't get to just separate yourself off.
00:19:25.000How, again, where was Chris Wallace on this?
00:19:28.000Chris Wallace last night, He was not only there to fact-check what Trump was saying and badger Trump.
00:19:33.000He was also there to shield Joe Biden from any serious question.
00:19:36.000And Trump was not really able to prosecute the case against Joe Biden because he was too busy focusing in on sort of the inanities surrounding Joe Biden as opposed to his policies.
00:19:44.000Here is Joe Biden flip-flopping on the Green New Deal inside of 35 seconds.
00:19:49.000The Green New Deal will pay for itself as we move forward.
00:19:53.000We're not going to build plants that, in fact, are great polluting plants.
00:20:25.000OK, other moments from Joe Biden last night.
00:20:27.000So there's going to be a lot of focus and there has been a lot of focus on Trump's words on white supremacy, which we'll get to in just one second again.
00:20:33.000Irredeemably stupid error by Trump last night on the stage.
00:20:37.000But Joe Biden also said a thing that was not only irredeemably stupid, but also morally benighted.
00:20:43.000And everybody is just pretending it doesn't mean anything.
00:20:45.000In fact, Megyn Kelly is trending for pointing out that it does mean something.
00:20:48.000So Joe Biden was asked specifically about Antifa.
00:20:51.000And he says, oh, well, you know, Antifa, they're really not an organization.
00:20:55.000OK, no, they are called by the FBI an ideology or a movement.
00:20:59.000An idea is something that has no practical real world ramifications unless it is taken down and made into an ideology or a movement.
00:21:06.000But here is Biden just pretending that Antifa doesn't exist.
00:21:09.000And what was amazing about the framing of a lot of the law and order discussion last night, it was all about the right-wing violence that's happening in our major cities.
00:21:15.000Weird, because it seems like the violence in our major cities, as Trump himself pointed out, we'll see this, is coming from the left wing.
00:21:20.000But here was Joe Biden refusing to condemn Antifa last night.
00:21:25.000Antifa's an idea, not an organization.
00:22:16.000They've been hijacking peaceful protests.
00:22:18.000And even members of BLM will tell you this.
00:22:20.000They've been going around and setting things on fire, occupying swaths of city areas, attacking cops, and Joe Biden won't condemn them because they're just an idea, not an organization.
00:22:28.000Okay, final clip of Joe Biden last night.
00:22:31.000So, Biden also blamed Trump for the riots in Portland.
00:22:34.000He somehow came around to the bizarre position that it was Donald Trump's fault that there were riots in Portland, even though, again, Donald Trump sent the Federals in, and then he withdrew the Federals, and the riots are still ongoing in Portland.
00:22:45.000Here is Joe Biden saying another asinine thing.
00:22:48.000You know, his own former spokesperson said, you know, riots and chaos and violence help us cause.
00:23:18.000He just pours gasoline in the fire constantly.
00:23:22.000OK, so again, that is a lie by Joe Biden.
00:23:24.000It's not about Trump pouring gasoline on the fire in Portland.
00:23:26.000That is a left wing city being run by left wing radicals.
00:23:29.000And the fact is that the violence that has been breaking out every night in Portland culminated in an Antifa member shooting somebody who is a member of Patriot Prayer.
00:23:40.000You don't get to hide behind the Donald Trump is a bad orange mean man argument to avoid condemning an actual violent terror group in Antifa, which is what they are.
00:23:49.000Again, in just a second we'll get to President Trump's performance, which likewise was not very good last night.
00:23:54.000Because this is what America deserves.
00:23:55.000HL Mencken said that democracy is the idea that the people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
00:24:06.000Okay, we're gonna get to more of that mess last night in just one second.
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00:25:37.000Now, if Trump were in the lead, this might make sense.
00:25:40.000It might make sense because it neutralizes the ability of Joe Biden to lie at length, which would be not a bad idea.
00:25:47.000In 2012, when Paul Ryan was debating Joe Biden, Joe Biden lied fluently, and Paul Ryan didn't fact-check him.
00:25:54.000He assumed that the moderator was gonna do that.
00:25:55.000The moderator did not, in fact, do that in that case, and ended badly for Paul Ryan.
00:25:59.000So being aggressive with Biden is not a bad strategy, but there's a difference between being aggressive and forcing questions and prosecuting and just being irritating.
00:27:23.000Trump actually fact-checked him from time to time.
00:27:26.000The problem is, because it was, in fact, just this drone, this drone of sound, If you are somebody in the middle, and those are the people that we care about, right?
00:27:34.000I mean, if you are on the right, you're going to vote for Trump anyway.
00:27:36.000If you're on the left, you're voting for Biden anyway.
00:27:37.000If you're in the middle, how do those people think of it?
00:27:40.000I cannot imagine anything other than if you were in the middle watching this thing, all you wanted to do was switch over to Hulu, Netflix, or Amazon and watch anything else, literally anything else.
00:27:49.000You're going to watch that man having sex with the octopus movie, like anything, but watch this thing.
00:27:54.000So, Trump came out extremely aggressive.
00:27:57.000And again, partisans will cheer, in the same way that partisans on the left cheer when Joe Biden tells Trump to shut up.
00:28:02.000Do any of these things score any points?
00:28:04.000So here's Trump being really aggressive, saying that Biden should never use the word smart with him.
00:28:40.000Because again, Trump's job here is to make himself seem more palatable to the American people, not to seem more Trumpy to the American people.
00:28:46.000Okay, then Trump berated Biden about Hunter Biden.
00:28:50.000Now, again, Hunter Biden is a legit campaign issue.
00:28:52.000And frankly, Chris Wallace should have asked Joe Biden about Hunter Biden, considering that there are now reports that Hunter Biden was receiving money, he was in fact receiving money, from the wife of the mayor of Moscow, and it was in the millions of dollars apparently, or at least firms he was connected to.
00:29:05.000Trump goes after Hunter, and Biden gets mad about Hunter.
00:29:08.000Do people think this is going to make a big difference in the actual presidential debate, or does it just look like Trump is getting so aggressive that it's aggression for aggression's sake?
00:29:17.000China ate your lunch, Joe, and no wonder your son goes in and he takes out, he takes out billions of dollars, takes out billions of dollars to manage, he makes millions of dollars.
00:29:28.000And also, while we're at it, why is it, just out of curiosity, The mayor of Moscow's wife gave your son $3.5 million.
00:30:37.000He said, you know, you keep talking about how, you know, you're pro-law enforcement, but at the same time you're calling them systemically racist.
00:30:42.000You don't have any law enforcement support.
00:30:43.000This is a good line of attack for Trump, a very good line of attack.
00:30:45.000What you have to do is say, name a group, right?
00:32:08.000Okay, now on the issues, the fact is that on the issues Trump was right and Biden was wrong.
00:32:12.000We'll get to Trump being right and Biden being wrong on the issues in a second.
00:32:14.000And then we'll get, of course, to the comment that everybody is talking about today, and that is Trump's comments on white supremacy.
00:32:19.000Again, I don't know how many times we have to go through this routine, where Trump is asked specifically about white supremacy, and then he shows himself willing to condemn white supremacy, and then he says something dumb.
00:32:27.000And then he proceeds to sort of futz around with it.
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00:34:43.000Okay, so Trump's rough tactics last night obscured the fact that on the issues he was So, for example, he had a great line last night, and it just, it didn't land because there were so many punches being thrown.
00:34:59.000He said about Biden, I've done more in 47 months than he's done in 47 years.
00:35:04.000Joe Biden is one of the most useless politicians in the history of Washington, D.C.
00:35:08.000Here is Donald Trump talking about it.
00:35:10.000Let me just tell you, Joe, I've done more in 47 months, I've done more than you've done in 47 years, Joe.
00:35:18.000We've done things that you never even thought of doing, including fixing the broken military that you gave me, including taking care of your vets.
00:35:25.000Okay, again, he is not wrong about all of that, okay?
00:35:28.000And then, Trump talked about lockdown.
00:35:30.000On lockdown, he was totally right and Biden was totally wrong.
00:35:32.000So Biden was saying that he would have saved all of the various lives, right?
00:37:12.000Now, the area that people are focusing in on is this one exchange.
00:37:16.000So Chris Wallace, again, we'll get to Wallace in a second, because I think that his moderation last night was abysmal, abysmal.
00:37:22.000But Chris Wallace decides to ask Trump about white supremacists.
00:37:27.000He doesn't ask Biden to condemn Black Lives Matter violence in the cities, which is what has been going on.
00:37:31.000They shut down the entire county of Los Angeles for a week so that Black Lives Matter-associated rioters and looters could go and hit up Melrose Avenue for new parachutes.
00:37:39.000So let's not pretend that what's been going on in the major cities is not caused by Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
00:37:46.000Nonetheless, Chris Wallace decides to pick up the Democratic talking point that actually it's a bunch of white supremacists in the cities who are actually causing all of this, which again is a lie.
00:37:55.000Again, there is no one in America who, I think on a personal level, may have been targeted more than I have been or who hates white supremacists more than I do.
00:38:32.000Are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland?
00:39:04.000White supremacist and white supremacist.
00:39:24.000White supremacist and white supremacist Okay, Joe Biden today tweeted out, there's no other way to put it, the President of the United States refused to disavow white supremacists on the debate stage last night.
00:39:32.000By the way, Joe Biden then put up a picture of Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old from Kenosha who shot three people, probably in self-defense by all available evidence.
00:39:40.000There's zero evidence that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist.
00:40:09.000In fact, the founders of the Proud Boys disassociated from the Proud Boys, like Gavin McInnes.
00:40:13.000He tried, I believe, to disassociate from the Proud Boys when he thought that they were associating too closely with white supremacists.
00:40:19.000In any case, you don't have to defend the Proud Boys.
00:40:23.000Bottom line here, Is that, I think the Proud Boys are a bad group.
00:40:26.000Okay, bottom line here is that if you actually read the exchange that happened right there, if you read the exchange, what you will see is that Trump repeatedly says, sure, I'm willing to condemn white supremacists.
00:40:44.000And to say they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland.
00:40:49.000Okay, so first of all, in Kenosha, that was not a white supremacist group.
00:40:53.000In Portland, Patriot Prayer is not a white supremacist group.
00:40:56.000So the basis of the question is in and of itself false.
00:41:25.000And then Trump says, proud boys, stand back and stand by.
00:41:28.000Now, it is the and stand by that's killing him, right?
00:41:30.000Because he says stand by, which makes it sound like I want you guys to like stand by in case there's violence and then go back in the cities.
00:41:36.000So people are focusing in on the standby.
00:41:38.000And then he says somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left.
00:41:40.000He didn't mean the Proud Boys have to do something about Antifa and the left.
00:41:43.000You can tell that from his inflection.
00:41:44.000He means that nobody in government is doing anything about Antifa and the left.
00:41:48.000And Joe Biden explicitly refused to condemn Antifa on the stage.
00:42:14.000But this notion that Trump won't condemn white supremacy, even in the Charlottesville situation, the problem there was not that he wouldn't condemn white supremacy.
00:42:22.000The problem is that he was equating the various groups at play there.
00:42:25.000But he said, I'm explicitly not talking about the white supremacists, when he said that there were good people on both sides.
00:42:32.000He was talking about people who he supposedly were marching with the white supremacists, but in favor of the Confederate statue.
00:42:39.000And I said, well, who are those people?
00:43:20.000Now again, if you go back to the chaos theory of this election, which is that people are going to vote for whomever is less chaotic, I'll say that the final note on the evening, which was Donald Trump talking about widespread voter fraud, it is true that universal mail-in balloting is a bad idea.
00:43:32.000He made a distinction between you requesting a ballot and ballots being sent to your house.
00:44:12.000If I see tens of thousands of ballots being manipulated, I can't go along with that.
00:44:17.000And I'll tell you what, from a common sense, I'll tell you what it means.
00:44:21.000to take to the media of a fraudulent election.
00:44:23.000And this is such a problem is Trump plays directly into the myths that Democrats want to push. We know that Joe Biden is going to contest the election. He already has hundreds of lawyers on standby.
00:44:32.000There have been full articles written about his various plans with MoveOn.org and all of these various other groups to take to the streets should he lose the election.
00:44:40.000All Donald Trump has to say here is, if any election is independently certified as fair and free, I will, of course, respect the results of the election.
00:44:47.000We should be deeply concerned about the possibility of fraud, and we will use all law enforcement mechanisms to ensure that it does not occur.
00:44:54.000I'm encouraging people to go in person because the possibility that you botched your ballot or that your ballot is sent in by somebody else, mail-in, that possibility exists.
00:45:13.000Chris Wallace began and I think that he was so taken aback by Trump's very, very aggressive tactics, by Trump's crowd Biden strategy, right?
00:45:22.000Got him up in the corner and then he was throwing jabs all night long.
00:45:25.000I think he was so put off by that and so upset and miffed, frankly, I think he was so offended by Trump's tactic that he decided he was going to jump in and become a debater.
00:45:33.000There are multiple times when Trump asked Biden a question and he would jump in and say, we're moving on to the next topic and just save Joe Biden.
00:45:39.000There are multiple times when Joe Biden would get stuck and Wallace would kind of feed him at the next line.
00:45:44.000There were multiple questions that he asked that were just bad questions.
00:45:47.000And those ones are more inexcusable even because those questions were prepared in advance, right?
00:45:53.000So Donald Trump very early on felt that Wallace was coming after him.
00:45:57.000I thought early on that this was not quite fair because Donald Trump was in fact talking directly over Biden for about the first 15 minutes of the debate.
00:46:04.000But Trump turned to Wallace and he said, I guess I'm debating you.
00:46:06.000And pretty much it did turn into that.
00:46:08.000By the end of the debate, Trump was not wrong about this.
00:46:11.000You, in the course of these four years, have never come up with a comprehensive plan to replace Obamacare, and just this last Thursday, you signed a largely symbolic executive order to protect people with pre-existing conditions five days before this debate.
00:46:30.000So my question, sir, is what is the Trump health care plan?
00:46:34.000Well, first of all, I guess I'm debating you, not him, but that's OK.
00:46:51.000Here was Chris Wallace asking Donald Trump about banning critical race theory in the government.
00:46:57.000Now, critical race theory, as we have discussed, is a racist ideology.
00:47:00.000Critical race theory says that every institution in the United States is undergirded by racial supremacy.
00:47:05.000Critical race theory suggests that just by dint of your skin, you're a beneficiary of white supremacy, and if you are not anti-racist, in other words, you don't want to tear down the entire system, you are racist.
00:47:15.000Critical race theory training involves people literally telling white people, in rooms, sponsored by the government, that they are racist simply because they are white.
00:47:24.000That's what this diversity training bullcrap from Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo is.
00:47:29.000Chris Wallace just says something blatantly untrue in this question.
00:47:32.000He says, why are you banning racial sensitivity training, Mr. President?
00:47:35.000He's not banning quote-unquote racial sensitivity training.
00:47:37.000He's banning critical race theory, which is a neo-Marxist garbage ideology that should not be taught on any college campus, any high school campus, any government agency, or any contracting agency with the federal government.
00:47:47.000Here is Chris Wallace completely blowing the question here.
00:47:53.000If you were a certain person, you had no status in life.
00:47:59.000And if you look at the people, we were paying people hundreds of thousands of dollars to teach very bad ideas, and frankly, very sick ideas.
00:48:07.000And really, they were teaching people to hate our country.
00:48:41.000Here was Wallace harassing Trump about global warming.
00:48:44.000What do you believe about the science of climate change and what will you do in the next four years to confront it?
00:48:52.000What do you believe about the science of climate change, sir?
00:48:55.000Do you believe that human pollution, greenhouse gas emissions contributes to the global warming of this planet?
00:49:03.000If you believe in the science of climate change, why have you rolled back the Obama Clean Power Plan, which limited carbon emissions in power plants?
00:49:13.000Why have you relaxed Did Wallace badger Biden on anything like that last night?
00:49:25.000He asked him like twice about packing the court and then Biden was like, I'm not answering it.
00:50:01.000Two, Donald Trump's overaggressive performance distracted from anything relevant that he wanted to say.
00:50:07.000So he didn't end up doing severe damage to Joe Biden.
00:50:10.000And his sort of botchery on that white supremacy question ended up damaging him maybe a little bit, but I don't think it'll have any real effect, because again, this has been the longtime Democratic narrative that's a lie, that he won't condemn white supremacy.
00:50:19.000He's literally called it evil from the rostrum many, many times.
00:50:22.000And Joe Biden didn't perform exactly well either.
00:50:37.000If you are going to clock Joe Biden and make a difference here, you need to let him hang himself with his own words.
00:50:42.000And Trump wouldn't allow him to do that.
00:50:43.000He just kept stepping in and crowding him.
00:50:45.000You gotta let him breathe enough to fall over.
00:50:47.000Okay, so the predictable reaction from the media was exactly what you would expect.
00:50:51.000After spending years hyperventilating over every single thing Trump says, after turning our media culture into a series of low-level stupid debates, after hosting some of the most radical guests saying the most radical things, they were astonished and stunned, our members of the media, at how bad this was.
00:51:07.000After going after Mitt Romney with the alacrity of a rabid monkey, They decided that they were going to get very offended by what happened here.
00:51:30.000You decided that Mitt Romney was to be treated like the plague in 2012.
00:51:34.000Mitt Romney, the mildest, most milquetoast human being who has ever walked planet Earth.
00:51:39.000He is the definition of a milquetoast human being, Mitt Romney.
00:51:43.000Mitt Romney was clean as the driven snow as anybody gets in politics, and you decided to muddy him by suggesting that he strapped dogs to the tops of cars, forcibly cut the hair of gay kids in 1950, and was a racist who would put y'all back in chains in the words of Joe Biden.
00:52:24.000I've said, I think it was the worst debate I've ever seen.
00:52:26.000Also, how is George Stephanopoulos in a newsmaker's position, in a newsman's position, after positioning himself at the head of the Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton campaign in 1992?
00:52:56.000Here was George Stephanopoulos last night.
00:52:59.000As somebody who's watched presidential debates for 40 years, as somebody who's moderated presidential debates, as someone who's prepared candidates for presidential debates, as someone who's covered presidential debates, that was the worst presidential debate I have ever seen.
00:53:12.000Okay, thank you, George Stephanopoulos.
00:53:14.000Meanwhile, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, again, agreeing this is the worst debate ever after, you know, extraordinarily, extraordinarily high-pitched coverage of how Trump was a Russian cat's paw for four years.
00:53:25.000It turns out that now everybody's upset with the tenor of American politics.
00:53:32.000I'm highly irritated with this notion that is very central to American politics right now, that every bad thing began and ended with Donald Trump.
00:53:38.000Donald Trump didn't appear and then speak words, and politics came into being.
00:53:42.000Donald Trump is a result of the system.
00:53:44.000A system built by the people on cable news.
00:53:46.000Anyway, here are our cable news hosts being very upset last night.
00:53:49.000That was a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck.
00:53:56.000That was the worst debate I have ever seen.
00:54:21.000Okay, and it was, but I'm just not willing to hear it from the members of the media who have been pursuing the bleep show for years and years and years.
00:54:28.000I mean, Jeff Zucker was having phone calls with members of the Trump campaign in 2016 advising them.
00:54:35.000Again, I'm not saying this about, you know, any one of these individual reports except for maybe Stephanopoulos, maybe Dana Bash a little bit.
00:54:42.000The media's shock and awe at this debate.
00:54:54.000Now, the Biden campaign has already said that they want more of this.
00:54:56.000They've already said, no, no, no, we're going to do more debates.
00:54:59.000I, you know, maybe it's because they think that their their guy did okay last night.
00:55:03.000And in essence, he didn't lose last night because nobody won last night.
00:55:07.000But here is Wolf Blitzer trying to put it out there.
00:55:09.000I would not be completely shocked if Biden simply pulls out of the rest of the debates.
00:55:12.000I would be shocked if he says that behavior was so egregious and the media cover for him.
00:55:15.000That behavior was so egregious that I just can't.
00:55:18.000Here is Wolf Blitzer making that suggestion last night.
00:55:22.000This was the most chaotic presidential debate I've ever seen, and I suspect most of you, if not all of you, have ever seen the most chaotic presidential debate.
00:55:31.000And it will certainly raise a lot of questions, raising a lot of questions about the future of the presidential debate between these two candidates.
00:55:40.000I wouldn't be surprised, by the way, if this is the last presidential debate I mean, how badly do the media want Joe Biden to win?
00:55:52.000They were making this argument a while ago, right?
00:55:54.000Nancy Pelosi was saying maybe there won't be any debates because they figured that Biden was winning.
00:56:00.000And they hope to continue that going forward because they still don't want to answer any serious questions.
00:56:04.000Remember, in this debate, Joe Biden refused to condemn Antifa, called all of America's systems racist, and then refused to answer whether he would stack the Supreme Court.
00:56:10.000And that's the debate he supposedly won.
00:56:13.000That's not a good showing by Joe Biden.
00:56:16.000It's just that, again, Donald Trump's tactics were so distracting that it was very difficult for people to actually fully grasp what the hell was going on.
00:56:25.000Okay, we'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content, more recap, an insane story.
00:56:30.000Apparently, there is now a... We're doing full-on malice struggle sessions.
00:56:36.000By professors at Ohio State University who have suggested they like sports.
00:56:40.000Apparently, you're not allowed to say that you like sports anymore.