The Ben Shapiro Show - The Big Meeting | Ep. 558

00:00:00.000 President Trump meets with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un.

00:00:02.000 We have comprehensive coverage.

00:00:04.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:04.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:11.000 Oh man, is our coverage going to be comprehensive today?

00:00:13.000 We are going to do this thing soup to nuts.

00:00:14.000 We are going to go through everything there is to go through about the North Korean meeting, about President Trump hanging out with Kim Jong Un, everything from their personal relationship to the actual statement that they signed together.

00:00:25.000 First, I have to make a couple announcements.

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00:00:56.000 Okay, well.

00:00:57.000 As I say, I want to get to everything having to do with this Kim Trump meetup.

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00:02:15.000 OK, so biggest news ever.

00:02:17.000 So the big news of the day, of course, is that President Trump goes over to Singapore and he meets with Kim Jong-un.

00:02:22.000 Now, I want to begin with this. 0.83

00:02:24.000 Kim Jong-un is the world's worst dictator. 1.00

00:02:25.000 He's a piece of human debris. 1.00

00:02:26.000 He is garbage. 1.00

00:02:28.000 He has killed his uncle, his ex-girlfriend, his brother-in-law, I believe. 1.00

00:02:31.000 He's killed all those people within the last couple of years.

00:02:33.000 He killed his uncle at an airport using VX nerve gas.

00:02:37.000 He has 25 million people living in his slave state. 0.98

00:02:40.000 He has 200,000 people living in his gulags. 1.00

00:02:43.000 He is just sheer garbage. 1.00

00:02:44.000 And he is generation number three of sheer garbage in the Kim family. 1.00

00:02:48.000 A North Korean defector talked a little bit on television yesterday about the people in North Korea and the fact they don't even know that they're slaves because they've never seen the outside world. 0.96

00:02:56.000 In order to understand how horrible North Korea is, you have to understand that at night, when you take a photograph from space of North Korea versus South Korea, South Korea is all lit up like a Christmas tree.

00:03:04.000 In North Korea, there's one light and it is at Kim Jong-un's palace.

00:03:07.000 Legitimately.

00:03:08.000 Here's what a defector from North Korea said about North Korea.

00:03:11.000 How bad was it in North Korea when you were there?

00:03:14.000 It's hard to say because, I mean, I thought, like, I never knew my country was isolated.

00:03:19.000 People in North Korea, they don't know that they are slaves. 0.98

00:03:22.000 That's why, you know, if you don't know you are slaves, how do you demand to be free?

00:03:27.000 Okay, so the bottom line is that this is a slave state.

00:03:29.000 It is run by one of the world's most evil families and the world's most evil human being at this point in time.

00:03:34.000 Now, the reason I point this out is because people are treating this summit with a bit of frivolity.

00:03:37.000 They're treating it as a giant celebration, a coming-out party for Kim Jong-un.

00:03:41.000 That is completely inappropriate.

00:03:42.000 The only reason that we're meeting with Kim Jong-un is because he's been testing his nuclear weapons and because his family has been pursuing nuclear weapons and lying about it to the West over and over and over again. 0.74

00:03:51.000 And lest we forget, these lies have been continuous and repeated.

00:03:55.000 Okay, the Kim family has lied no less than eight times since 1992 to the American government about denuclearization.

00:04:01.000 Eight times.

00:04:01.000 So before everybody gets on their high horse about, oh, Trump finally got them to promise denuclearization, they've promised denuclearization more often than...

00:04:11.000 As many nights as there are Hanukkah, he has promised denuclearization.

00:04:13.000 I mean, he has promised denuclearization essentially every other year, the family has, every other year since 1992.

00:04:17.000 And we're supposed to pretend that his current promise means something.

00:04:21.000 Well, Trump tweeted in the run-up to the meeting that critics were selling him short.

00:04:26.000 He said,

00:04:37.000 Okay, just to point out here, yes, we got some hostages back.

00:04:40.000 So did Barack Obama in 2014.

00:04:41.000 That is just historical fact.

00:04:43.000 As far as testing and research and missile launches have stopped, we have no way to verify whether research has stopped.

00:04:47.000 Testing has stopped at the nuclear mountain because they imploded their own nuclear mountain.

00:04:51.000 And their missile launches have stopped because they don't want to set off President Trump in the run-up to the meeting, right?

00:04:56.000 That's the idea here.

00:04:57.000 And President Trump then continues, and he says, meetings between staffs and representatives are going well and quickly, but in the end, that doesn't matter.

00:05:03.000 We will all know soon whether or not a real deal, unlike those of the past, can happen.

00:05:06.000 The truth is, usually a president of the United States does not get together with a foreign adversary to sign an agreement until there's an agreement to be signed.

00:05:14.000 Until there's something real and decent and long-lasting and verifiable to be signed.

00:05:19.000 The goal of these negotiations is CVID.

00:05:22.000 Complete Verifiable Irreversible Denuclearization or Dismantlement.

00:05:26.000 CVID.

00:05:27.000 They're not really even talking about that right now.

00:05:29.000 They're not really even talking about that.

00:05:30.000 This was the big question.

00:05:32.000 Was President Trump going to be handing Kim Jong-un a public relations victory by going over and hanging out with him?

00:05:38.000 Or was he going to get some serious concessions?

00:05:39.000 Now, we don't know the answer to that yet.

00:05:41.000 And this is my note of caution.

00:05:43.000 We don't know yet.

00:05:44.000 So what you're hearing from a lot of folks on the right is triumph!

00:05:47.000 Nobel Prize!

00:05:49.000 Everything great has already happened.

00:05:50.000 Nothing great has happened.

00:05:52.000 In fact, right now, the ledger is stacked in favor of Kim Jong-un because we just handed them a massive PR victory.

00:05:57.000 We'll go through the PR victory and all the mistakes that were made over the last 36 hours and handing them a PR victory now.

00:06:02.000 All those mistakes turn to gold if Kim Jong-un actually wants to denuclearize.

00:06:07.000 So if the White House knows something that we don't, if the White House actually has some sort of verifiable regime of dismantlement coming, then this is the greatest move of all time.

00:06:15.000 If they don't, then it's a debacle.

00:06:17.000 Okay?

00:06:17.000 There really is no in-between.

00:06:18.000 There's no in-between position where Trump goes over there and makes nice and plays kissy face with Kim Jong-un and doesn't get anything out of him, where it's not a debacle.

00:06:26.000 And on the other hand, if he gets what he wants out of Kim Jong-un, then obviously everything is justified.

00:06:30.000 But right now, everybody is jumping to their various positions.

00:06:32.000 You got folks on the right, and they are jumping to the position that Donald Trump has done something masterful.

00:06:37.000 It's a masterstroke.

00:06:38.000 It's genius.

00:06:39.000 It's MAGA MAGA 3D underwater chest upside down.

00:06:42.000 And how do we know that?

00:06:43.000 Well, because Trump's doing it.

00:06:45.000 If Obama had done the same thing, we would have gone nuts.

00:06:47.000 If Obama had gone over to Singapore and hung out with Kim Jong-un and stacked the American flag alongside the flag of North Korea, we would have gone crazy because the flag of North Korea is the modern-day equivalent of the swastika. 0.69

00:06:57.000 Imagine that Kim Jong-un is Hitler, and you understand a little bit better why it might not be a great idea to have all these photo ops with a guy without receiving any sort of serious concessions in the first place. 0.70

00:07:06.000 So on the right they're jumping to, everything is great, everything's gonna be fine, no downside, all terrific.

00:07:12.000 And on the left they're jumping to, this is the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of the world.

00:07:15.000 The same people who are cheering Obama for signing the world's worst nuclear deal with Iran, 0.67

00:07:20.000 But we don't know yet.

00:07:20.000 I say a lot on this show.

00:07:21.000 I spend a lot of time on my show saying, let's wait for the evidence to come in.

00:07:25.000 And there's another case where I'm gonna say, let's wait for the evidence to come in.

00:07:29.000 But we can say that President Trump gave up something very serious in this photo op.

00:07:47.000 He gave up the idea that America, as the freest country on the face of the planet, and most powerful country on the face of the planet, has the capacity to talk down to Kim Jong-un.

00:07:57.000 We should be talking down to him. 1.00

00:07:58.000 He's a tin-pot dictator piece of crap. 1.00

00:08:00.000 He's a horrible human being. 1.00

00:08:02.000 And legitimizing him, and pretending that he's a normal person, and that this is a normal regime, and that we've got to have normal relations with this normal regime without any serious concessions being made? 0.98

00:08:10.000 I don't know why the president does that.

00:08:11.000 I honestly don't.

00:08:12.000 I don't know why this wasn't done through lower level negotiators.

00:08:14.000 I don't know why this wasn't done through Mike Pompeo.

00:08:16.000 I don't know why this wasn't done through the CIA.

00:08:18.000 There are plenty of ways to negotiate these deals.

00:08:21.000 Having the president show up for a nice back rub with Kim Jong-un doesn't seem to me like a worthwhile cause.

00:08:27.000 Now, you have to understand the level of reality TV that was involved in this from the very start.

00:08:33.000 You have Dennis Rodman on TV crying.

00:08:35.000 So Dennis Rodman showed up in Singapore wearing a Make America Great Again hat.

00:08:38.000 This is not the case.

00:08:39.000 He's been going over to North Korea for years.

00:08:42.000 Back in 2014, a guy named Donald Trump tweeted that he never would have said that Dennis Rodman should go over to North Korea and hang out with Kim Jong-un.

00:08:50.000 It's why he's glad he fired him from Celebrity Apprentice.

00:08:53.000 Now Dennis Rodman is actually at this event and he starts crying on TV while talking about how he is sponsored by some sort of pot Bitcoin company.

00:09:01.000 I got so many tough threats while I was sitting there protecting everything.

00:09:04.000 And I believed the dark career.

00:09:07.000 And when I went home, I couldn't even go home.

00:09:09.000 I couldn't even go home.

00:09:10.000 I had to hide out for 30 days.

00:09:16.000 I couldn't even go home.

00:09:18.000 But I kept my head up high, brother.

00:09:21.000 I knew things were gonna change.

00:09:22.000 I knew it.

00:09:23.000 I was the only one.

00:09:24.000 I never had no one to hear me.

00:09:26.000 I didn't know no one had to see me.

00:09:28.000 But I took those bullets!

00:09:29.000 I took all that!

00:09:30.000 I took everything!

00:09:31.000 Everyone came at me!

00:09:33.000 And I'm still standing!

00:09:34.000 And today is a great day for everybody!

00:09:36.000 Singapore!

00:09:38.000 Tokyo!

00:09:38.000 China!

00:09:39.000 Everything!

00:09:39.000 It's a great day!

00:09:40.000 And he's standing there talking about PotCoin.com and Chris Cuomo humoring him.

00:09:44.000 OK, when Dennis Rodman says it's a great day, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a great day.

00:09:48.000 It could just mean that he took LSD.

00:09:49.000 Like, we just don't know.

00:09:50.000 It's Dennis Rodman.

00:09:51.000 OK, so all of this happens.

00:09:52.000 Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump walk out.

00:09:54.000 And here is the historic moment.

00:09:55.000 Everybody says it's historic.

00:09:57.000 They always say historic as though historic is good.

00:09:59.000 Historic just means historic, meaning that it makes history.

00:10:01.000 But lots of things were historic.

00:10:02.000 Neville Chamberlain was historic.

00:10:03.000 And so was so was opening China.

00:10:06.000 Lots of things are historic.

00:10:07.000 Here's what it looked like when President Trump met with Kim Jong-un for the first time.

00:10:11.000 As we see President Trump getting prepared to walk to center stage.

00:10:17.000 And there it is.

00:10:19.000 The first handshake between the United States president and North Korea.

00:10:21.000 Okay, now pause it right there.

00:10:22.000 You can see the danger in this image, okay?

00:10:25.000 And the image is, of course, a bunch of American flags stacked up against a bunch of North Korean flags.

00:10:29.000 If those were swastikas, everybody would understand this. 0.99

00:10:31.000 Okay, symbolism matters.

00:10:33.000 And I guess we play Kim Jong-un as though he is some sort of joke. 0.97

00:10:36.000 As though he's just a fat boy who's a joke. 0.97

00:10:38.000 OK, there's an element of that. 0.99

00:10:40.000 But the guy also happens to be a mass murderer, like an actual mass murderer.

00:10:43.000 So in any case, President Trump says that he is happy to get the guy to the table. 0.90

00:10:47.000 And then he says that he felt foolish with doing the fire and fury rhetoric, but he had to do it.

00:10:50.000 He told this to Sean Hannity.

00:10:52.000 He says that, you know, that's the way that you get Kim Jong-un to the table in the first place.

00:10:56.000 Well, I think without the rhetoric, we wouldn't have been here.

00:10:59.000 I really believe that.

00:11:00.000 You know, we did sanctions and all of the things that you would do, but I think without the rhetoric, you know, other administrations, I don't want to get specific on that, but they had a policy of silence.

00:11:11.000 If they said something very bad and very threatening and horrible, just don't answer.

00:11:17.000 That's not the answer.

00:11:18.000 That's not what you have to do.

00:11:20.000 Okay, so I agree with President Trump's harsh rhetoric.

00:11:22.000 I agree with President Trump's harsh rhetoric with regard to Kim Jong-un.

00:11:25.000 I don't think that it was his harsh rhetoric that brought Kim Jong-un to the table.

00:11:28.000 I think that it was the South Korean administration, which has been extraordinarily open toward Kim Jong-un and basically brokered this deal.

00:11:34.000 So, I like the harsh rhetoric.

00:11:35.000 I have no problem with the fire and fury rhetoric with regard to Kim Jong-un.

00:11:38.000 It doesn't bother me one iota.

00:11:40.000 In fact, I'd like more of that.

00:11:41.000 More of the harsh Trump rhetoric, less of the kissy kissy face for me because I just I'm not a big fan of how this went.

00:11:47.000 So in just a second, I'm going to explain to you what exactly went down in this deal because I have the document in front of me, what exactly was signed and why it basically is a giant nothing burger for the moment.

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00:13:19.000 So what actually was in this this deal between new best friends, President Trump and Kim Jong Un?

00:13:25.000 So here is what the deal says.

00:13:26.000 It says President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea held first historic summit in Singapore on June 12th, 2018.

00:13:37.000 President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong-un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

00:13:49.000 President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong-un reaffirmed his firm non-wavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

00:13:57.000 Let's stop there for just a second.

00:13:59.000 Okay, what that means is that President Trump made commitments that he would not actually involve the United States in joint military drills with the South Koreans, and Kim Jong-un said, I'm going to do the same thing my dad and my granddad promised, and I'm going to lie about it.

00:14:11.000 That's not a promising start.

00:14:14.000 Listen, I know, maybe there's more to come.

00:14:16.000 Maybe there's more to come, but I need to see the evidence there's more to come before I start getting excited about a deal that basically is weaker than prior deals.

00:14:22.000 And the fact is that the joint comprehensive framework that was come up with in 2005-2006 is stronger than this deal.

00:14:28.000 Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.D.P.R.K.

00:14:31.000 relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Kim Jong-un state the following, and here we get to the

00:14:42.000 Actual four basic principles of the deal.

00:14:44.000 Principle one.

00:14:45.000 The U.S.

00:14:45.000 and the D.P.R.K.

00:14:46.000 commit to establish new U.S.-D.P.R.K.

00:14:48.000 relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

00:14:52.000 Okay, so that one doesn't mean anything.

00:14:53.000 Two.

00:14:54.000 The United States and the D.P.R.K.

00:14:55.000 will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

00:14:59.000 Okay, again, that doesn't mean anything.

00:15:00.000 Three.

00:15:01.000 Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the D.P.R.K.

00:15:05.000 commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

00:15:09.000 There's nothing new here.

00:15:09.000 The one that Trump has been pumping the hardest is the POW-MIA language, the suggestion that we're going to bring home the remains of all these POWs and MIAs.

00:15:33.000 That's great, except that this has been a Korean promise for legitimately 30 years. 0.97

00:15:37.000 Korean officials have been promising to do this since the 1980s.

00:15:41.000 Between 1996 and 2005, U.S.-North Korean search teams conducted 33 joint recovery operations and recovered 229 sets

00:15:48.000 The deal itself is no great shakes.

00:16:10.000 Now, in order for it to be a success as a first step, two things have to happen.

00:16:13.000 Trump can't give up too much up front.

00:16:14.000 And second, there must be an actual thing that we get on the back end.

00:16:18.000 Now, I want to talk about what Trump gave up here in just a second.

00:16:21.000 So let's begin.

00:16:21.000 President Trump does this press conference last night.

00:16:24.000 He's obviously very pleased with himself.

00:16:25.000 He's obviously very excited because this is the historic moment.

00:16:28.000 It's the moment the world came together.

00:16:30.000 It's his Nobel Prize winning moment because he went just as Nixon went to China, Trump went to Singapore.

00:16:35.000 OK, so Trump starts off and this is one of the problems.

00:16:38.000 So the big wins that President Trump handed the North Koreans were a couple full.

00:16:43.000 There are a few of them.

00:16:44.000 So first off, there was the.

00:16:47.000 So first off, there was the.

00:16:49.000 Trump prays for Kim Jong-un, okay?

00:16:52.000 And there's plenty of it.

00:16:53.000 So it begins with President Trump talking about how talented Kim Jong-un is.

00:16:57.000 Now, I understand this is Trump shtick.

00:16:58.000 I get it.

00:16:59.000 I understand.

00:16:59.000 President Trump is trying to build relations.

00:17:01.000 What, are you going to go over there and yell at him that he's a dictator, mass murderer? 0.98

00:17:04.000 No.

00:17:04.000 But you also don't have to say that he's the world's most wonderful guy.

00:17:07.000 I understand.

00:17:08.000 Again, this is Trump's shtick.

00:17:09.000 He says this about everyone he first meets them. 0.99

00:17:11.000 But it's not good in just the same way it was stupid when President Bush said that he looked into Putin's eyes and he saw his soul. 1.00

00:17:17.000 I think this is idiotic. 1.00

00:17:18.000 Here's President Trump saying that Kim Jong Un is very talented. 1.00

00:17:21.000 He said this sort of nonsense before.

00:17:23.000 Well, he is very talented.

00:17:24.000 Anybody that takes over a situation like he did at 26 years of age and is able to run it and run it tough, I don't say

00:17:35.000 He was nice, or I don't say anything about it.

00:17:37.000 He rented very few people at that age.

00:17:40.000 You can take one out of 10,000 probably couldn't do it. 0.67

00:17:43.000 Okay, he's a dictator who legitimately murders political dissidents.

00:17:47.000 That's not the language the President of the United—that's shameful language. 0.91

00:17:49.000 The President of the United States should not be using that language about one of the most evil people on planet Earth.

00:17:54.000 I don't care whether it's Obama.

00:17:55.000 Or Bush, or Clinton, or Trump.

00:17:56.000 That's not the language you use with Kim Jong-un.

00:17:58.000 And then, President Trump goes further.

00:18:01.000 He actually starts talking about all of the concessions he would like to make to Kim Jong-un.

00:18:04.000 Some will materialize, some will not.

00:18:06.000 But none of this signals strength to Kim Jong-un.

00:18:10.000 It actually signals weakness to Kim Jong-un.

00:18:12.000 At some point, I have to be honest, and I used to say this during my campaign, as you know probably better than most, I want to get our soldiers out.

00:18:21.000 I want to bring our soldiers back home.

00:18:23.000 We have right now 32,000 soldiers in South Korea.

00:18:28.000 And I'd like to be able to bring them back home, but that's not part of the equation right now.

00:18:32.000 At some point, I hope it will be, but not right now.

00:18:35.000 We will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money, unless and until we see that the future negotiation is not

00:18:46.000 Going along like it should.

00:18:48.000 Okay, so Trump's made some sort of concessions here.

00:18:51.000 One of the concessions is that we're going to hold off on joint military exercises with South Koreans.

00:18:55.000 This apparently surprised the South Koreans.

00:18:57.000 He said that these exercises were quote-unquote very provocative.

00:19:00.000 That's the language that Kim Jong-un probably said to Trump.

00:19:03.000 These are provocative exercises.

00:19:05.000 They're not provocative exercises.

00:19:06.000 They're joint military exercises.

00:19:08.000 They're not meant to provoke a response from North Korea.

00:19:09.000 They're meant as a warning.

00:19:10.000 I think he wants to do things.

00:19:11.000 I think he wants to.

00:19:11.000 You'd be very surprised.

00:19:12.000 Very smart, very good negotiator.

00:19:28.000 Wants to do the right thing.

00:19:46.000 It's rough.

00:19:47.000 It's rough in a lot of places, by the way.

00:19:49.000 Not just there, but it's rough.

00:19:50.000 And we will continue that, and I think ultimately— Okay, again, brushing off human rights abuses in North Korea, as it's rough in a lot of places, this is not a good look from the President of the United States.

00:20:00.000 Now, the reason I'm being critical is because what President Trump is trying to do here, obviously, is butter up Kim Jong-un.

00:20:05.000 Like, really butter him up.

00:20:06.000 The idea here is we'll make Kim Jong-un feel so good about himself that he'll give up his nuclear weapons.

00:20:09.000 I'm deeply skeptical Kim Jong-un falls for this, but clearly that's what Trump is trying to do, to put the best possible spin on it for Trump.

00:20:16.000 That he doesn't like Kim Jong-un, but he's trying to manipulate Kim Jong-un.

00:20:19.000 He's trying to butter him up.

00:20:20.000 I think the most buttery thing that he said actually was not during this press conference.

00:20:23.000 We'll get back to the clips from the press conference in just a second.

00:20:26.000 It's clip 19, where he was with Greta Van Susteren and apparently decided that we were going to do an episode of The Dating Game.

00:20:33.000 Here he is describing his potential date, Kim Jong-un.

00:20:37.000 Really, he's got a great personality.

00:20:39.000 He's a, you know, funny guy.

00:20:41.000 He's a very smart guy.

00:20:42.000 He's a great negotiator.

00:20:44.000 He loves his people, not that I'm surprised by that, but he loves his people, and I think that we have a, you know, the start of an amazing deal.

00:20:51.000 We're gonna de-nuke North Korea. 0.98

00:20:54.000 It's gonna start immediately, and a lot of other things are happening.

00:20:57.000 He loves his people.

00:20:58.000 Don't you understand?

00:20:59.000 He loves his people.

00:20:59.000 Just like To Serve Man, right?

00:21:01.000 From Twilight Zone?

00:21:03.000 They also, the aliens, love their people.

00:21:05.000 To eat them.

00:21:06.000 Okay, Kim Jong-un has kept his people in a state of abject slavery for legitimately decades.

00:21:10.000 And he loves his people.

00:21:12.000 How is that helpful?

00:21:13.000 Okay, so, if he butters him up, again,

00:21:15.000 All of this is contingent on something really big has to happen at the other end.

00:21:18.000 If not, this is the President of the United States lying down and playing dead for the worst dictator on planet Earth.

00:21:23.000 We'll get to more of President Trump's statements on all of this, plus the blowback in just a second. 0.93

00:21:27.000 The media blowback is hypocritical, and I'll talk about that.

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00:22:35.000 Okay, so back to President Trump's

00:22:36.000 Press conference.

00:22:37.000 So President Trump continues by talking about how he and here President Trump is talking about the media hypocrisy.

00:22:44.000 So a lot of people are saying, well, why is this any different than when Obama was trying to make concessions to the Cubans or the Iranians?

00:22:49.000 And Trump rightly is saying, listen, the deal that I'm cutting right now isn't making more concessions than anything Obama did.

00:22:54.000 And this is one of the great ironies of this particular political moment is that all the people who thought that Obama was just terrible for the Iran deal are cheering wildly President Trump meeting with Kim Jong-un and massaging his back.

00:23:05.000 And all the people who are really, really angry at President Trump for doing this on the left were wildly ecstatic about President Trump back massaging the mullahs in Iran. 0.95

00:23:13.000 And then there are those of us who say, listen, it's bad when Obama back massages the mullahs, and it's bad when Trump back massages Kim Jong-un. 0.96

00:23:19.000 It's bad when Obama kisses the butt of some of the worst people on earth, and it's bad when Trump does that as well. 0.97

00:23:23.000 There better be some sort of payoff on the other end. 0.98

00:23:26.000 Here's Trump going after the media, however.

00:23:28.000 Jennifer, when you look at all of those things that we got, and when we got our hostages back, I didn't pay $1.8 billion in cash.

00:23:38.000 Like the hostages that came back from Iran, which was a disgraceful situation, what took place. 1.00

00:23:45.000 So we've gotten a lot.

00:23:47.000 So when I hear somebody in the media say that President Trump has agreed to meet, like, it's not a big deal to meet.

00:23:55.000 I think we should meet on a lot of different topics, not just this one.

00:23:59.000 And I really believe a lot of great things can happen.

00:24:02.000 Okay, it is a big deal to meet.

00:24:04.000 It is a big deal to meet.

00:24:05.000 Okay, it's a big deal to meet for the North Koreans.

00:24:06.000 It may not be a big deal for Trump to meet, but it's the United States.

00:24:09.000 He has the prestige and power of the United States sitting behind him.

00:24:12.000 Granting meetings to some of the worst people on earth is a bad idea.

00:24:15.000 There's a reason that President Trump, for example, hasn't been willing to meet with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:24:19.000 There's a reason that he's not willing to meet with the leadership of Iran.

00:24:21.000 Everybody understands this on an innate level.

00:24:23.000 President Trump understands it, too.

00:24:24.000 He's brushing off the meeting as a big nothing because nothing has happened yet.

00:24:28.000 But that's exactly the point.

00:24:28.000 Nothing has happened yet, so why are you meeting?

00:24:30.000 What is the point of this meeting?

00:24:32.000 And when I say that there's been triumphalism surrounding this meeting, I mean, I mean, coming from the Trump administration.

00:24:36.000 So President Trump tweets out this video.

00:24:39.000 When he was 18, he tweets out this video of a compilation of himself meeting with Kim Jong-un.

00:24:45.000 I'll describe it to you.

00:24:46.000 And you can hear the music underneath because all this triumphal music as though something great has been done.

00:24:51.000 Again, nothing great has been done yet.

00:24:54.000 Maybe something will be done.

00:24:55.000 But so far, all I've seen is the president of the United States walking arm in arm with one of the worst people on planet Earth and then flattering him as a wonderful, smart guy.

00:25:03.000 Yeah, that's not great to me.

00:25:04.000 I'm waiting for the great part to come.

00:25:06.000 I understand that maybe this is the setup.

00:25:08.000 Well, I need the punchline before I start laughing.

00:25:10.000 Otherwise, I'm just going to be angry at the setup because I don't like the setup very much.

00:25:13.000 Trump, though, is touting the setup as though this is some sort of big win.

00:25:16.000 The problem with this video is that if you cut it shot for shot with the same music, you could play it on Pyongyang TV in favor of Kim Jong Un.

00:25:21.000 Here's what the video sounds like.

00:25:25.000 So you can see Trump walking into the venue, and then you see him shaking hands with Kim Jong Un, and both of them smiling, and Trump being very warm, and the triumphal music.

00:25:34.000 Everything's just spectacular.

00:25:35.000 And then them walking along some sort of portico together, and them sitting together.

00:25:40.000 Okay, none of this is useful.

00:25:43.000 The point of this meeting is supposed to get Kim Jong-un to understand that you actually need to make concessions.

00:26:02.000 Because if you don't make concessions, we're going to kick the living bleep out of you. 0.70

00:26:05.000 Right?

00:26:05.000 That's what this meeting was supposed to be.

00:26:07.000 Not President Trump going in there and making nice so that we can then claim that we've won some sort of victory.

00:26:11.000 Diplomacy is not a victory.

00:26:13.000 Diplomacy is a tactic.

00:26:15.000 Just because you are being diplomatic does not mean that you did anything wonderful.

00:26:18.000 It depends what's on the other end of the diplomacy.

00:26:20.000 Obama did this routine too.

00:26:21.000 This is my original complaint about Trump meeting with Kim Jong-un.

00:26:24.000 I said it at the time.

00:26:25.000 Go back and listen to the tape.

00:26:26.000 I've been saying it for weeks.

00:26:28.000 Saying that you're going to meet with somebody makes the diplomacy the chief goal.

00:26:32.000 Diplomacy is never the chief goal.

00:26:33.000 Now, there are a bunch of people today who are making the same argument that Obama made about Iran.

00:26:37.000 Well, what would you have him do?

00:26:38.000 Go to war with North Korea? 0.61

00:26:39.000 No, I wouldn't have him go to war with North Korea.

00:26:41.000 I would have his lower-level negotiators making clear to the North Koreans what the deal should be, and then when it's time for Trump to actually triumph, then he gets to walk in and sign a big piece of paper.

00:26:51.000 But preliminarily, handing this sort of legitimacy and kindness to Kim Jong-un is not useful.

00:26:56.000 I mean, speaking of legitimacy and kindness, you know, President Trump has been saying for a long time that one of the keys here is that he's used very harsh language with regard to North Korea, that if North Korea violates, then we may have to use fire and fury.

00:27:08.000 Well, yesterday, he basically took fire and fury off the table.

00:27:10.000 Here is President Trump talking about how if we went to war, 30 million people would die, which is essentially taking military force off the table, effectively.

00:27:16.000 This is the press conference, the quote beginning, Seoul.

00:27:19.000 So there's 28 million people.

00:27:21.000 Think of that.

00:27:22.000 And it's right next to the border.

00:27:25.000 It's right next to the DMZ.

00:27:28.000 It's right there.

00:27:29.000 I mean, if this would have happened, I think, you know, I've heard, oh, 100,000 people.

00:27:34.000 I think you could have lost 20 million people, 30 million people.

00:27:39.000 This is really an honor for me to be doing this because I think, you know, potentially you could have lost, you know, 30, 40, 50 million people.

00:27:46.000 The city of Seoul, one of the biggest cities in the world, is right next to the border.

00:27:52.000 Okay, so the fact that he's saying this is effectively taking the option off the table, which is not a good idea, right?

00:27:57.000 I mean, there should be no options off the table, obviously, and President Trump's whole shtick here, when it comes to foreign policy, is you never give away your hand.

00:28:04.000 And maybe we'll hit you with a club, and maybe we'll give you a carrot, but you never give away your hand.

00:28:08.000 Here's President Trump tipping his hand, and that's not particularly smart.

00:28:10.000 It's just, it's not particularly bright, and I'm upset with him for having done it, obviously, unless, unless, I keep saying unless, because we don't know what the unless is, so we have to hold off judgment.

00:28:20.000 Unless there is some sort of big concession by the North Koreans. 0.60

00:28:23.000 And then, this I thought was the funniest part of the press conference.

00:28:26.000 So Trump showed Kim a tape.

00:28:29.000 Apparently.

00:28:30.000 And I've seen the tape now.

00:28:31.000 It's this highly produced little tape with a big narrator voice, with a big narrator going, Trump, Kim, can they make peace?

00:28:39.000 And then a bunch of pictures of people playing basketball and people dancing and singing, and then a bunch of pictures of missiles and all this kind of stuff.

00:28:46.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:28:47.000 But Trump talks about, you know, the tape and what he showed Kim.

00:28:50.000 He says that was a version of what could happen.

00:28:53.000 That was a version of what could happen, what could take place.

00:28:56.000 As an example, they have great beaches.

00:28:59.000 You see that whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean, right?

00:29:02.000 I said, boy, look at that.

00:29:04.000 Wouldn't that make a great condo behind?

00:29:06.000 And I explained, I said, you know, instead of doing that, you could have the best hotels in the world right there.

00:29:11.000 Think of it from a real estate perspective.

00:29:14.000 You have South Korea, you have China, and they own the land in the middle. 0.99

00:29:17.000 How bad is that, right?

00:29:18.000 It's great.

00:29:20.000 But I told them, I said, you may not want to do

00:29:24.000 Here's the point.

00:29:25.000 The United States does not have to engage in a charm offensive with North Korea.

00:29:28.000 We're the most powerful country in the history of the world by a factor of 10.

00:29:32.000 There's legitimately no reason we have to engage in a charm offensive when we're telling a tin-pot dictatorship to give up their nukes.

00:29:51.000 The charm offensive stuff, if it works, then I am happy to say that President Trump did something unprecedented and massive and wonderful.

00:29:58.000 But if it doesn't, then all that happened is the President of the United States made a tin pot dictator look like somebody who's actually worth the time.

00:30:04.000 And I'm not seeing that.

00:30:06.000 Again, you know, President Trump's language here has been

00:30:09.000 I don't think so.

00:30:26.000 Over my lifetime, I've done a lot of deals with a lot of people, and sometimes the people that you most distrust turn out to be the most honorable ones, and the people that you do trust, they are not the honorable ones.

00:30:38.000 So, we are starting from a very high plane.

00:30:42.000 We're starting from a very good relationship.

00:30:44.000 This has been a very big day in terms of the world.

00:30:46.000 I think it's been, maybe, a lot of people are saying it's historic.

00:30:49.000 We're all calling it historic.

00:30:51.000 Right, and everybody's talking about how historic it is.

00:30:53.000 Historically good?

00:30:53.000 Historically bad?

00:30:54.000 We don't know yet.

00:30:55.000 We don't know yet.

00:30:56.000 But I will say this.

00:30:57.000 The media, who are treating this with grave skepticism, I wish they treated the Iran deal with the same grave skepticism.

00:31:01.000 And conservatives, who are treating this as an unmitigated triumph, I wish that they had treated this the same way they treated the Iran deal.

00:31:08.000 The deal is not a deal until there's a deal.

00:31:11.000 This is true of every deal in business and in politics.

00:31:13.000 There's no serious deal that's been made.

00:31:15.000 All that's happened so far is that Trump has offered really an unwarranted open hand to the worst dictatorship on planet Earth, put their flag alongside the flag of the United States.

00:31:25.000 You know how many Americans died to keep that North Korean flag from flying over South Korea?

00:31:29.000 50,000 Americans died to keep that flag from flying over South Korea.

00:31:32.000 That means that if you're going to fly it alongside the American flag, there damn well better be a good reason.

00:31:36.000 And it can't just be because Trump wants a photo op.

00:31:38.000 There has to be an actual good reason, and that means actual denuclearization.

00:31:41.000 I hope that's what the Trump administration has in its back pocket.

00:31:44.000 I suspect that it is not, from speaking to many people with knowledge of the situation.

00:31:49.000 I suspect that it is not, but if it is, then more power to him, and all this ends up being a coup.

00:31:54.000 It ends up being the greatest thing ever, and I pray that it is.

00:31:56.000 If not, it ends up being a debacle.

00:31:58.000 An Obama-esque debacle, worse in some ways than anything except for the Iran deal on the Obama ledger.

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00:33:20.000 So, meanwhile, President Clinton continues to get away with everything.

00:33:23.000 He made some comments the other day that went largely unremarked upon by mainstream media.

00:33:27.000 He said in an interview that sexual misconduct norms have changed.

00:33:31.000 How have they changed?

00:33:32.000 President Clinton, explain.

00:33:35.000 In general, I think it's a good thing, yes.

00:33:37.000 I think it's a good thing that we should all have higher standards.

00:33:41.000 I think the norms have really changed in terms of

00:33:45.000 What you can do to somebody against their will, how much you can crowd their space, make them miserable at work.

00:33:50.000 You don't have to physically assault somebody to make them, you know, uncomfortable at work or at home or in their utter just walking around.

00:34:02.000 Okay, so the standards have changed about how much you can do with somebody against their consent.

00:34:08.000 I love that the follow-up question here is not, well, what was the standard with Juanita Broderick?

00:34:12.000 What was the standard with Paula Jones? 1.00

00:34:13.000 What was the standard with Kathleen Willey? 1.00

00:34:14.000 My favorite part of all these interviews with Bill Clinton is that James Patterson, the best-selling author maybe of all time, is sitting next to him just looking egregiously uncomfortable, just looking like he wants to crawl into a hole and die.

00:34:23.000 It's pretty spectacular.

00:34:25.000 But Bill Clinton, again, still a respected voice on the left.

00:34:27.000 And then we wonder why people don't take the media seriously.

00:34:30.000 We wonder why when the media asks critical questions about North Korea, everybody blows them off. 1.00

00:34:34.000 Maybe it's because they're a bunch of hypocrites. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Maybe it's because they're ridiculous. 1.00

00:34:37.000 Now, speaking of ridiculous, this story is amazing. 0.99

00:34:39.000 So Jack Dorsey is the head of Twitter. 0.86

00:34:41.000 He tweeted out that he had ordered a bag of sandwiches from Chick-fil-A.

00:34:47.000 So he tweeted out, boost Chick-fil-A.

00:34:48.000 And then it showed a image of how much money he has spent at Chick-fil-A.

00:34:53.000 He spent like 30 bucks at Chick-fil-A.

00:34:55.000 And then he was called on it by Soledad O'Brien, who immediately said, this is an interesting company to boost during Pride Month, Jack, because it's Gay Pride Month this month, which if you didn't know, congratulations, it's Gay Pride Month.

00:35:09.000 And then Jack responded, you're right, completely forgot about their background.

00:35:12.000 He never should have shopped at Chick-fil-A during Gay Pride Month. 0.69

00:35:14.000 It's basically like Gay Ramadan. 1.00

00:35:16.000 Now it's during this month.

00:35:18.000 You mustn't.

00:35:18.000 We're gonna fast from all the Christian-owned companies during Gay Ramadan, Gay Pride Month.

00:35:23.000 No one, no one must ever shop from Chick-fil-A, a company that has never discriminated against homosexuals in any way, but whose owners are against same-sex marriage.

00:35:32.000 Anybody who shops at Chick-fil-A is violating the precepts of Gay Pride Month. 0.87

00:35:36.000 Because the gay pride jihadis are going to come after you and insist that you do repentance.

00:35:41.000 Very, very important stuff from Soledad O'Brien. 0.93

00:35:43.000 The best part of this is that Soledad O'Brien did an event in 2012 sponsored by Chick-fil-A.

00:35:48.000 So she was happy to take the cash from Chick-fil-A, but now she's very upset that Gay Pride Month, its sanctity, its sanctity has been violated by the evil that is tweeting out that you shopped at Chick-fil-A to get a sandwich.

00:36:00.000 And then people wonder why people voted for President Trump.

00:36:03.000 You know, as critical as I am of President Trump from time to time, the fact is that the left does nothing but push people into President Trump's camp with social culture war issues like this.

00:36:12.000 You know, I like a lot of President Trump's policy.

00:36:14.000 I don't like a lot of President Trump's rhetoric.

00:36:17.000 Some of the things President Trump does, like this North Korean summit, I think are foolhardy and problematic.

00:36:21.000 But when you have an entire group of people who insist that I cannot shop at the chicken sandwich shop of my choosing because that might offend homosexual people for no reason at all,

00:36:31.000 It sort of makes me think maybe I'll just vote for the guy who's not doing that.

00:36:35.000 Maybe I'll vote for the guy who doesn't take that stuff particularly seriously.

00:36:38.000 Pretty amazing stuff there from Jack Dorsey.

00:36:41.000 I love that Jack Dorsey has to acknowledge that.

00:36:42.000 So it took Jack Dorsey like months and months and months to punish Louis Farrakhan by taking away his verification on Twitter.

00:36:49.000 He shouldn't have taken away his verification.

00:36:51.000 He shouldn't ban him either.

00:36:51.000 I think it's good Louis Farrakhan is out there.

00:36:53.000 He reminds us how scummy human beings can be. 1.00

00:36:55.000 He's just a piece of garbage. 1.00

00:36:56.000 But that said, 0.99

00:36:58.000 Jack Dorsey has banned a number of people from Twitter, but not Louis Farrakhan, so he still hasn't banned Louis Farrakhan, but he's never gonna shop at Chick-fil-A during Gay Pride Ramadan, so that's very exciting stuff. 0.79

00:37:06.000 Okay, meanwhile, speaking of ridiculous stuff, the Tony Awards happened last night, on Sunday night, and they were particularly replete with anti-Trump rhetoric, foolishness, so we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but Robert De Niro dropped an F-bomb on the air. 0.51

00:37:23.000 He decided that to show what a hero he was, he was going to say F-Trump in front of a crowd, 0.92

00:37:27.000 I'm gonna say one thing.

00:37:28.000 Trump.

00:37:28.000 Standing ovation.

00:37:58.000 It's no longer Donald Trump, it's f*** Trump. 0.97

00:38:19.000 And then of course Andrew Garfield got up, the guy from Spiderman, not the new one that's good, the old one that's bad. 0.99

00:38:31.000 He got up and he started talking about how everybody should abandon, everybody should basically bake cakes for the gays if they're asked to do so for a gay wedding and such. 1.00

00:38:41.000 We are all sacred, and we all belong, so let's just bake a cake for everyone who wants a cake to be baked! 0.90

00:38:49.000 Except for Christians. 0.99

00:38:50.000 Christians are not sacred, and they do not belong. 1.00

00:38:52.000 Christians do not belong. 1.00

00:38:54.000 And as I proposed yesterday, I believe that Andrew Garfield should actually act. 0.78

00:38:58.000 I will write a play about the Christian bakers who were discriminated against by the Colorado Commission on Civil Rights, and Andrew Garfield can play the lead.

00:39:05.000 He can play the Christian baker.

00:39:06.000 And I will raise the money to do that.

00:39:08.000 And he should have to do that.

00:39:09.000 Because he should act for whoever wants him to act.

00:39:12.000 I mean, it's a free market.

00:39:14.000 It's an open society.

00:39:17.000 I demand his services, and his services I shall have.

00:39:19.000 Andrew Garfield.

00:39:20.000 And then it got even better, of course.

00:39:22.000 This actress from a new musical about Harry Potter, I guess?

00:39:26.000 She says that President Trump should not come to see the show.

00:39:29.000 He should be banned from the show.

00:39:31.000 Andrew Garfield says that a Christian baker should have to serve at a same-sex wedding, but this actress says her name is Noma Dumezweni. 0.98

00:39:39.000 She says that Trump should not be able to come to her play.

00:39:42.000 So, yeah, there's no double standard here at all.

00:39:44.000 Should the president come see Harry Potter and the Cursed Child?

00:39:47.000 No.

00:39:50.000 Thank you.

00:39:51.000 Anybody else?

00:39:52.000 Yes.

00:39:53.000 Anybody else?

00:39:54.000 Yes.

00:39:54.000 But not him.

00:39:54.000 Not him.

00:39:55.000 So here's a question.

00:39:57.000 The question is, why is it that the Tony Awards, like the Oscars, like the Emmys, have catered so specifically to one segment of the population?

00:40:02.000 Now, the easy answer is they're all a bunch of leftists and they hate the right.

00:40:05.000 That's true.

00:40:06.000 But that doesn't explain why they've been allowed to get away with it.

00:40:08.000 So the Tony Awards do not get big ratings.

00:40:10.000 The Tony Awards got something like 6.3 million total viewers.

00:40:13.000 By way of contrast, Game 4 of the NBA Finals, which was down this year,

00:40:17.000 Drew twice that, drew 12.9 million viewers.

00:40:20.000 And few Americans have actually seen the shows featured at the Tonys.

00:40:24.000 Basically, Broadway attendance for musicals has been effectively stagnant since 2006, 2007.

00:40:30.000 Nobody's seen any of these plays.

00:40:32.000 So why is it that the Tonys are so far out of the political mainstream?

00:40:35.000 Well, the reason is because of an element called renormalization.

00:40:38.000 So renormalization is this weird thing where a small group of people can impact a large group of people.

00:40:43.000 So here's how it works.

00:40:44.000 You have a family of four.

00:40:46.000 One of the members of your family is a vegetarian.

00:40:48.000 So instead of you having to cook two separate meals, you just cook a vegetarian meal for everyone.

00:40:52.000 So now all four people have to have a vegetarian meal.

00:40:54.000 Now that family goes to a party.

00:40:56.000 There are four families there.

00:40:57.000 And only one of the families is vegetarian.

00:41:00.000 Well, the person who's throwing the party may think, well, you know, I really don't want to cook two meals, so I'm just going to make the entire thing vegetarian.

00:41:04.000 So one person who's vegetarian can convert an entire group of people into eating vegetarian at a particular meal.

00:41:10.000 Well, the same thing happens when it comes to Broadway.

00:41:13.000 There are motivated niche groups who only go to the theater if their particular group is catered to, and these happen to be hardcore leftist groups, particularly.

00:41:20.000 And so those shows are what tends to be produced because they figure that

00:41:23.000 Everybody else who's coming to Broadway will see whatever it is that is provided.

00:41:26.000 In the same way that the meat-eater will eat the vegetarian meal, a bunch of people who don't care about these niche shows will go to see the niche shows, because they're there for Broadway anyway.

00:41:33.000 And that's how Broadway Remains Liberal continues to make money.

00:41:36.000 It's only exposed, of course, on the Tonys, when millions of people watch it.

00:41:39.000 When millions of people see this liberalism and this leftism put on full display in front of the entire country, and they find it completely off-putting.

00:41:45.000 But that's how the market actually allows for Broadway and Hollywood to remain so left, even while they alienate huge swaths of the country.

00:41:52.000 Okay, so time for a couple of things that I like and then some things that I hate.

00:41:56.000 So...

00:41:57.000 Things that I like.

00:41:59.000 My kid has been... I'm going to talk a little bit of Star Wars here because there's a big news story about Kathleen Kennedy.

00:42:06.000 So there's a lot of talk about that Kathleen Kennedy, who's the head of Lucasfilm, is going to step down from the Star Wars franchise.

00:42:11.000 That she's going to step down as the head of Lucasfilm.

00:42:14.000 And I am going to talk about that in just a second.

00:42:16.000 First, I want to talk about how much I like Star Wars.

00:42:19.000 I like Star Wars so much that my kids are familiar with all the music.

00:42:21.000 Their favorite has been this rendition for a little while.

00:42:24.000 My two-year-old son particularly loves this.

00:42:25.000 He calls it Chetawah.

00:42:26.000 He loves Cello Wars.

00:42:28.000 Okay, Cello Wars is, there's this group of guys, they're called the Piano Guys, and they did this version of the Star Wars music, and it's just for two cellos, and basically there's a little bit of background music, I believe, from a synthesizer or a piano, and it's pretty cool.

00:43:11.000 So it's pretty fun.

00:43:12.000 You can get all their music on iTunes.

00:43:13.000 They have a lot of good stuff.

00:43:15.000 So go check out The Piano Guys.

00:43:17.000 I really enjoy a lot of their music.

00:43:18.000 This thing has several million hits on YouTube.

00:43:21.000 For good reason, it's pretty well produced.

00:43:22.000 OK, so I'm going to talk about Star Wars and Kathleen Kennedy and the stuff I hate.

00:43:26.000 But first, one more thing that I like.

00:43:28.000 So this was pretty awesome.

00:43:29.000 So I was walking on Saturday on Shabbat.

00:43:31.000 I was walking around with my family.

00:43:32.000 And we walked past a Little League baseball field.

00:43:35.000 And I had to stop and watch Little League baseball because Little League baseball is the best.

00:43:39.000 Okay, and as we were walking by the Little League baseball field, the teams were going out there and they were lining up, and I didn't realize this is what they do in Little League, because I played in Jewish Little League, so Jewish Little League, we don't do any of this particular stuff, although I think that we definitely should.

00:43:52.000 What they were saying, oh, they lined up both teams, right, the opposing teams on the third baseline and the first baseline, and then they had all the kids repeat this mantra, I trust in God, I love my country, and will respect its laws, I will play fair and strive to win, but win or lose, I will always do my best.

00:44:06.000 That's all American stuff.

00:44:07.000 It's just great.

00:44:08.000 Unfortunately, all those principles are under attack from both some folks on the left and some folks on the right, particularly when it comes to playing fair and striving to win and doing your best.

00:44:16.000 I think that those principles are particularly under attack in today's modern era, unfortunately.

00:44:21.000 But these sort of values do have an outcome, and that outcome is stuff like this.

00:44:24.000 So yesterday, this is just a beautiful video.

00:44:26.000 There is a high school pitcher who was pitching against, I guess it's one of his best friends since he was a kid, and his best friend played for another team from another high school.

00:44:35.000 And this last pitch wins him the winning team now gets to go to the state championship in high school baseball.

00:44:43.000 And what you're going to see in this video is the pitcher strike out the batter, and then his teammates rush to celebrate on the mound.

00:44:51.000 And before they can, he goes and gives his best friend a hug and comforts him about striking out.

00:45:20.000 And then he finally goes and he celebrates with his teammates.

00:45:23.000 That's just great.

00:45:24.000 That's just great.

00:45:24.000 I mean, that's sportsmanship and that's decency, and we're lacking a lot of that in today's modern politics.

00:45:29.000 Okay, time for a couple of quick things that I hate.

00:45:35.000 Okay, so thing that I hate, Michelle Wolf is awful. 0.99

00:45:37.000 Okay, she's awful. 0.95

00:45:38.000 She was awful when she did the White House Correspondents' Dinner, and she is awful now.

00:45:41.000 So she has a show on Netflix, which nobody will ever watch.

00:45:44.000 We'll never know the ratings, because that's not how Netflix actually makes its money.

00:45:46.000 They make their money off subscriptions, of course.

00:45:48.000 So Michelle Wolf did this routine, this video, where she plays a person who is submitted to the op-ed page of the New York Times, and the op-ed editor of the New York Times, it turns out, is an actual clown.

00:46:00.000 But she's not going to rip the op-ed editor of the New York Times for being too left.

00:46:02.000 No, she's going to rip the op-ed editor of the New York Times for being too right. 1.00

00:46:05.000 And she's specifically going to go after Barry Weiss.

00:46:07.000 Barry Weiss is the only semi-conservative columnist at the New York Times.

00:46:10.000 I think it's Ross Douthat and David Brooks, who's not really very conservative at all.

00:46:15.000 And Barry Weiss.

00:46:16.000 And Michelle Wolf goes after Barry Weiss because, after all, there are certain opinions that are bad.

00:46:19.000 Capital B-A-D.

00:46:20.000 Bad.

00:46:21.000 And they must not be allowed to be given room on the pages of the New York Times. 0.99

00:46:25.000 Here's Michelle Wolf being a complete cretin. 1.00

00:46:29.000 It's supposed to be Barry Weiss. 0.99

00:46:33.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:46:40.000 Enough, Barry Weiss! 1.00

00:46:42.000 Your opinions suck! 1.00

00:46:43.000 They're bad opinions! 1.00

00:46:45.000 Bad!

00:46:46.000 Do you even realize what you're doing? 1.00

00:46:48.000 People look at your paper as a trusted source for informed opinions, but instead you're validating these bad shit points of view! 1.00

00:46:55.000 Maybe it's time you leave. 0.99

00:46:57.000 Do not validate the bad points of view, people.

00:46:59.000 Michelle Wolf is right.

00:46:59.000 Barry Weiss had an opinion.

00:47:00.000 So has Barry Weiss ever defended Pizzagate?

00:47:02.000 Of course not! 0.99

00:47:03.000 That's asinine. 0.97

00:47:04.000 Barry Weiss has written about a wide variety of issues, some of which are not particularly pro-right-wing, by the way. 0.97

00:47:10.000 And there is Michelle Wolf saying, these are bad opinions.

00:47:12.000 Bad!

00:47:13.000 I'm gonna stand here and shout, bad opinion!

00:47:14.000 Bad opinion!

00:47:16.000 And you don't deserve space in the New York Times.

00:47:17.000 Now, listen, do I think there are legit bad opinions?

00:47:19.000 Yes.

00:47:19.000 I think that legitimate racist opinions are bad, for example.

00:47:22.000 I think there are plenty of legitimately bad opinions.

00:47:24.000 I think the opinion that rape is a wonderful thing.

00:47:26.000 That's a horrible opinion, right?

00:47:27.000 There are plenty of horrible opinions.

00:47:29.000 Barry Weiss does not fall outside the Overton window, but according to Michelle Wolfe, she does.

00:47:33.000 Because according to Michelle Wolfe, the only people who should be on the pages of the op-ed of the New York Times are people that Michelle Wolfe personally agrees with.

00:47:38.000 Now, the great irony of this is that Barry Weiss wrote a full column defending Michelle Wolfe after the White House Correspondents Dinner.

00:47:45.000 So apparently her bad opinions include defending Michelle Wolfe. 0.99

00:47:48.000 Pretty amazing stuff.

00:47:49.000 Okay, now meanwhile, other things that I hate.

00:47:51.000 So I have to talk about this briefly.

00:47:52.000 There's a whole upspate of people who are now defending Kathleen Kennedy.

00:47:56.000 Kathleen Kennedy is the head of Lucasfilm, and the reason that they are defending Kathleen Kennedy is they say that Kathleen Kennedy is doing a wonderful job as the

00:48:03.000 She's the head of the Star Wars universe. 1.00

00:48:04.000 She's not doing a bad job.

00:48:05.000 Pay no attention to the failures of Solo.

00:48:07.000 Pay no attention to The Last Jedi.

00:48:09.000 Pay no attention to any of that stuff.

00:48:10.000 She is doing awesome.

00:48:11.000 And you know how we know she's doing awesome?

00:48:13.000 Because Kathleen Kennedy is super woke.

00:48:15.000 And the real reason that Star Wars is failing right now, that Star Wars is having some trouble, the real reason that Star Wars is feeling the pain is because of these toxic fans.

00:48:25.000 Now, does this sound familiar?

00:48:26.000 Does it sound sort of like what people said about Hillary Clinton? 0.99

00:48:28.000 Hillary isn't failing because Hillary sucks. 1.00

00:48:30.000 Hillary's failing because everybody's deplorable. 1.00

00:48:32.000 That's exactly what all these columnists are saying.

00:48:34.000 So there's a guy named Mark Bernardin who writes for the Hollywood Reporter.

00:48:36.000 He says that all of these toxic fans, quote, hate everything the new Star Wars stood for, hated what they saw as a social justice warrior remix of the Star Wars they grew up with, and they hated Trans Rose.

00:48:47.000 This would be the this cat, this actress.

00:48:50.000 What's her first name?

00:48:51.000 Katie Tran, maybe? 0.97

00:48:53.000 Who plays Rose in the last Star Wars movie, which is a garbage part.

00:48:56.000 Most of all because they decided she was the avatar that was all that was wrong with the franchise.

00:49:00.000 Those fans, minority but a loud one, found there them in the very thing they used to love.

00:49:04.000 Those who chose this particular vein of the dark side, emboldened by the faceless intoxication of the internet, went hard on Tran.

00:49:09.000 Racist invective, misogyny, rape, and death threats all hurled at her constantly, unrelentingly,

00:49:14.000 Okay, so if you think that this group of Reddit trolls, who are like all up on Tran, that that is what is causing Star Wars to fail... 1.00

00:49:26.000 You're an idiot. 0.99

00:49:27.000 Okay, the real reason that Star Wars is failing is not because of any of that stuff. 1.00

00:49:31.000 Because if it was because of that stuff, you would have expected Solo to do fine, because Solo wasn't filled with as much SJW nonsense.

00:49:37.000 The real reason that Star Wars is failing is because Kathleen Kennedy is terrible at her job. 1.00

00:49:41.000 Okay, the Lucasfilm Story Group?

00:49:44.000 The reason she's being defended again is because she is super woke.

00:49:46.000 The New York Times had a piece a few weeks ago talking about Kathleen Kennedy's Lucasfilm Story Group and they said, quote, Now, I don't care about any of that stuff.

00:49:53.000 I care whether the movies are good.

00:50:14.000 But the press cares about that stuff, and that's why they have to defend Kathleen Kennedy from her bad creative decision-making. 1.00

00:50:19.000 The reason that Star Wars has failed is because they basically had two choices on relaunching the Star Wars universe.

00:50:23.000 One would be, fast-forward 50 years when all the original characters are gone, and then you lose the nostalgia, but at least you relaunch the universe.

00:50:30.000 Or two, you recast the original characters and you pick up where Return of the Jedi left off.

00:50:34.000 But instead, she chose door number three, which is bring back all the original characters, kill them off in the stupidest possible ways, and then try to make backwards-looking nostalgia films about characters you've already destroyed, like Solo.

00:50:44.000 I can't imagine why that was a giant fail.

00:50:46.000 Kathleen Kennedy should go, but the media's gonna try and save her because she's a woman and she's a woke woman at that, so that's all that matters. 0.70

00:50:51.000 Okay, quick explanation of a Federalist paper since we didn't do so yesterday.

00:50:54.000 So Federalist number 32 we are up to.

00:50:56.000 We can do this very quickly.

00:50:57.000 Alexander Hamilton wrote Federalist 32.

00:50:59.000 This is a continuation of his discussion about the taxing power of the federal government.

00:51:03.000 And what he says is that the state and federal government will be able to have concurrent taxing power.

00:51:08.000 So there's a lot of worry at the state level that if the federal government can tax,

00:51:11.000 That that will prevent the state from taxing, and Hamilton assures people that's not the truth.

00:51:15.000 He says, this exclusive delegation, or rather this alienation of state sovereignty, would only exist in three cases.

00:51:20.000 Where the Constitution in expressed terms grants an exclusive authority to the Union, where it granted in one instance an authority to the Union, and in another prohibited the states from exercising the like authority, and where it granted an authority to the Union, to which a similar authority in the states would be absolutely and totally contradictory and repugnant.

00:51:35.000 In other words, unless the Constitution explicitly rules out that a state can do something, the state can still do something.

00:51:41.000 So this is his argument.

00:51:42.000 And then he says states can tax their citizens.

00:51:44.000 He says there is plainly no expression in the granting clause which makes that power exclusive in the Union.

00:51:48.000 There's no independent clause or sentence which prohibits the states from exercising it.

00:51:51.000 In other words, stop worrying so much that the federal government is going to tax everybody and states won't be able to.

00:51:56.000 Hamilton was right about this.

00:51:57.000 Both the feds and the states now tax people out of existence. 0.95

00:51:59.000 That's very exciting stuff.

00:52:01.000 That's because the growth of the federal government far beyond what Hamilton ever could have foreseen or approved.

00:52:05.000 Okay, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest updates.

00:52:07.000 Hopefully, we'll have some good news from the Trump administration in terms of actual concrete steps that the North Koreans will take to denuclearize. 0.54

00:52:14.000 Otherwise, it was not a great day.

00:52:16.000 But maybe it will be a good day tomorrow.

00:52:17.000 We'll find out.

00:52:18.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 12, 2018

The Big Meeting | Ep. 558

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