The Ben Shapiro Show - The Great Media Beclowning | Ep. 1033

00:00:00.000 NBC News targets the Federalists with destruction with Google's help.

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00:01:55.000 Okay, so we begin with the big media story of the day.

00:01:58.000 So the media have just beclown themselves.

00:02:00.000 Over the past few months, they've absolutely beclown themselves.

00:02:02.000 They've beclown themselves on coronavirus because they suggested that coronavirus was super serious until exactly the moment when people decided to rush out into the streets and protest en masse, at which point coronavirus became not serious at all. 0.78

00:02:14.000 They've beclowned themselves on police violence by suggesting that the police all across the country are racist and systemically shooting black men, which is not true.

00:02:22.000 They've beclowned themselves on everything from impeachment to Russiagate.

00:02:25.000 I mean, it's just, it's an insane level of beclowning each and every day.

00:02:28.000 But they've always been able to hide behind the idea that they were journalists and not activists.

00:02:33.000 Well, now the mask is coming off, obviously, because in the midst of the George Floyd protest, we saw the New York Times basically cave directly to the activist wing of its own journalistic institution.

00:02:42.000 We saw its woke staffers bully out the editorial op-ed page manager, who, of course, was on the left.

00:02:48.000 We saw the Philadelphia Inquirer get rid of one of its editors, specifically because he was not woke enough, despite the fact that he had diversified the newsroom.

00:02:55.000 So all of this was coming out, right?

00:02:57.000 It was very clear that the journalistic Objectivity that was purported to reign at a lot of these institutions was bullcrap.

00:03:04.000 The mask finally fell for, I think, what is the most clear time last night.

00:03:08.000 And in the process, also unmasked a lot of the big tech companies, particularly Google, specifically Google, because I don't think all big tech companies are quite the same on this stuff.

00:03:16.000 Google, particularly, for being unbelievably hypocritical in taking advantage of section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which shields websites from being policed for their comment sections, right?

00:03:26.000 Shields them from liability for their comment sections.

00:03:29.000 Google decided that it would go after the Federalist, a right-wing outlet.

00:03:33.000 It would go after the Federalist for its comment section.

00:03:36.000 And NBC News was the leading driver here.

00:03:39.000 So there's something that a lot of news organizations do these days when it comes to policing their competitors.

00:03:45.000 What they will do is they will go to advertisers on a particular show, like, say, Tucker Carlson.

00:03:50.000 This is the way that this works.

00:03:51.000 They get some sort of notice from a group like Media Matters that Tucker has said something controversial, and Media Matters has taken him out of context to suggest that he is a racist.

00:03:58.000 And then they will go to all the advertisers, and in the guise of news gathering, these outlets and these reporters will say, so, you still advertising on Tucker Carlson?

00:04:06.000 Now, that's not news, that's activism.

00:04:08.000 Because the basic idea there is we're going to report it if you don't drop the advertising.

00:04:13.000 We are going to make an issue of it if you don't drop the advertising on Tucker Carlson.

00:04:16.000 You are responsible for the stuff that Tucker Carlson says.

00:04:18.000 So that's long been the sort of nexus between the open activism of groups like Media Matters and the so-called journalism of a lot of members of the media who are willing to run with that narrative and are willing to quote-unquote ask questions, but ask questions to achieve a certain purpose.

00:04:34.000 So yesterday, the mask came off completely.

00:04:36.000 Like, completely came off.

00:04:38.000 So NBC News has a reporter named Adele Momoko Frazier, who reported on Tuesday that Google had banned The Federalist from its advertising platform.

00:04:46.000 The supposed prohibition came after NBC approached Google with allegedly problematic articles featured on The Federalist's website.

00:04:52.000 This is by Beckett Adams over at Washington Examiner.

00:04:54.000 A spokeswoman then told The Washington Examiner that The Federalist is not currently demonetized, but here is the entire story.

00:05:03.000 A British non-profit group is called the Center for Countering Digital Hate.

00:05:06.000 These groups have basically been set up with shoddy, incredibly shoddy research.

00:05:09.000 This has been going on for several years.

00:05:10.000 These are the same sorts of groups that suggest that people like Dave Rubin or Jordan Peterson or Joe Rogan or I are directing people toward white supremacist ideology.

00:05:19.000 It's all this nonsense that they promote that suggests that if you are a typical conservative or not even conservative, that if you stand up for the idea that men and women are different, for example, that this is driving people toward white supremacy.

00:05:31.000 It doesn't matter how many times you yourself have led the charge against the alt-right, you actually are alt-right.

00:05:35.000 These groups exist.

00:05:37.000 In order to promote a particular point of view of the world, which is that if you are right of Karl Marx, then you are in essence a fascist and can be grouped with the fascists.

00:05:44.000 Okay, so this British non-profit group is called the Center for Countering Digital Hate.

00:05:48.000 They published a paper that targeted 10 US-based websites that it said had published racist criticisms of the recent protests surrounding the death of George Floyd.

00:05:55.000 Those websites, the non-profit group argued, stand to make millions of dollars through Google Ads. 0.98

00:06:00.000 Now, their study was crap. 0.87

00:06:02.000 There's no evidence that the Federalists, per se, Put forward any racist material on George Floyd. 0.97

00:06:07.000 And the articles they cite are not actually racist.

00:06:09.000 So what happens?

00:06:10.000 NBC does exactly what I've talked about with regard to, for example, Tucker Carlson and media matters.

00:06:14.000 NBC approaches Google with the Center for Countering Digital Hate study, demanding the tech giant do something about it.

00:06:21.000 Now, NBC's original story quoted a Google spokesperson who said, quote, we have strict publisher policies that govern the content ads can run on and explicitly prohibit derogatory content that promotes hatred, intolerance, violence, or discrimination based on race from monetizing.

00:06:34.000 Adding when a page or site violates our policies, we take action.

00:06:36.000 In this case, we've removed the Federalist's ability to monetize with Google.

00:06:39.000 A Google spokesperson declined to reconcile that above, quote, with the tech company's current position that it has not, in fact, demonetized the Federalist.

00:06:47.000 A spokesperson for the Federalist did not respond to the Washington Examiner's request for comment.

00:06:51.000 The initial NBC report also included a passage where the author bragged that it was her news division, the ironically named Verification Unit, that approached Google with the hate study demanding the tech company do something about the allegedly offensive online content.

00:07:05.000 Google blocked the Federalist from its advertising platform after the NBC News Verification Unit brought the project to its attention, said the original report, which has now been retconned and removed.

00:07:14.000 The Federalist, the NBC reporter explained in a current version of the write-up, has become well-known in recent years for publishing far-right articles on a variety of subjects.

00:07:21.000 It published an article claiming the media had been lying about looting and violence during the protests, which was included in the report sent to Google.

00:07:27.000 So the supposedly problematic article, by the way, is not racist.

00:07:30.000 It just points out that the media have basically suggested if you cover the rioting and the looting, you are racist.

00:07:36.000 Google, for its part, disputed most of the NBC's report, including the part where it said the Federalists came under scrutiny because of specific articles.

00:07:43.000 Instead, Google says that the Federalists' comments section was the problem.

00:07:47.000 A spokesperson said, we've been told the Federalists removed comments as of this time.

00:07:51.000 She added, when our enforcement team reviewed sites, they reviewed the entire site's content, including the comments section.

00:07:56.000 For policy compliance.

00:07:58.000 In this instance, the notification to the Federalist was related to the comments section of the site, which is not a new policy.

00:08:03.000 The comments sections consistently violated our dangerous and derogatory policy.

00:08:07.000 Okay, then this reporter—remember, reporter, not activist, reporter—tweeted out, new, from NBC Verification Unit, thanks to at SF Fake News and CCD Hate for their hard work and collaboration.

00:08:19.000 So openly saying, like, I'm collaborating with these groups in order to take down the Federalist.

00:08:23.000 Thanks to them.

00:08:24.000 Thanks to them.

00:08:25.000 Okay, so obviously, look, NBC News is not a news outlet.

00:08:29.000 It is an activist outlet.

00:08:30.000 Just acknowledge that that's exactly what's going on here.

00:08:32.000 There are two points worth making.

00:08:33.000 One is that it is perfectly obvious at this point that so many members of the media, not all of them, many members of the media are activists in the disguise of journalists.

00:08:41.000 So I'm glad this happened because it just takes the mask right off.

00:08:44.000 It is perfectly obvious, and corporations should know it.

00:08:46.000 And when a journalist calls you for comment on the latest thing Tucker Carlson has said, they're not calling you because they care what you say.

00:08:51.000 They're calling you because they are threatening you.

00:08:53.000 And everyone knows this.

00:08:54.000 Everyone knows this.

00:08:55.000 Okay, this is the dirty little game.

00:08:57.000 The dirty little game is all you got to do is get a reporter from Huffington Post to call you up for a comment in order to drive an advertiser off a show, off a site, or off a particular outlet.

00:09:07.000 That's all you have to do.

00:09:08.000 Because basically, the Huffington Post journalists are the action wing of groups like Media Matters.

00:09:15.000 Media Matters isn't openly calling for defunding Tucker Carlson.

00:09:18.000 Instead, all they do is they just send off to their email list, to the NBC News Verification Unit, and to the Huffington Post quote-unquote journalists.

00:09:25.000 And they say, look at this bad thing somebody said today.

00:09:27.000 Why don't you call up their advertisers?

00:09:29.000 Call up their advertisers, guys!

00:09:31.000 And oh, look at that!

00:09:32.000 It's news!

00:09:32.000 Now it's news because advertisers are dropping from Tucker Carlson, right?

00:09:35.000 This is the dirty little game.

00:09:36.000 And now the game is out in the open.

00:09:38.000 Because NBC News not only botched their own story, right?

00:09:41.000 Their verification unit printed a story that was not true and had to revise it stealthily.

00:09:46.000 But not only that, the NBC quote-unquote news unit was directly driving the story in the first place by going to Google and trying to have the federalist demonetized.

00:09:56.000 So that's story number one.

00:09:57.000 Your journalistic activists are in fact activists first and journalists second.

00:10:01.000 And they are using their journalism as a guise for their activism.

00:10:05.000 It's a Trojan horse.

00:10:06.000 So that is story number one.

00:10:07.000 Then there's story number two, and that is Google.

00:10:09.000 We're gonna get to Google and their policy that supposedly allows you to demonetize based on comment sections, which is fully insane.

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00:11:35.000 Okay, so that's story number one, is NBC News' journalists who are actually activists demonstrating full-scale that they're activists and not journalists.

00:11:41.000 And I don't want to hear from them anymore, that when they are calling advertisers for comment, that what they're really doing is just, they're just seeking out the news.

00:11:48.000 No, you're making the news.

00:11:49.000 Okay, you guys are Nightcrawler.

00:11:51.000 Have you ever seen that movie with Jake Gyllenhaal?

00:11:53.000 He starts off by basically making money covering car crashes, and then he starts staging the car crashes so he can make money off of the car crashes, right?

00:12:00.000 You guys are Jake Gyllenhaal and Nightcrawler.

00:12:02.000 You're staging the crimes.

00:12:03.000 You're participating in the crimes in order so you can make money off of photographing the crimes.

00:12:08.000 So you get to really enjoy yourself always, right?

00:12:12.000 You get to be an activist, and then you get to pretend that you're actually just a reporter.

00:12:15.000 But there's another story here that is very telling and it makes it very difficult for libertarians like me.

00:12:20.000 I'm libertarian when it comes to big tech.

00:12:22.000 I think that big tech, these are private companies.

00:12:24.000 They get to basically do what they want.

00:12:26.000 And so the idea that we should be regulating big tech, I've always found very dicey because I don't like the idea of Elizabeth Warren at the head of some editorial commission determining whether a website is liable or not liable for comments posted in its comment section.

00:12:40.000 There's something called Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

00:12:43.000 This has become very controversial.

00:12:44.000 Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act says that you are not liable for your comments section, essentially.

00:12:49.000 That you are a platform so long as you are an open thread.

00:12:53.000 So that doesn't mean you can't curate the open thread, but it does mean that you have to be an open thread, right?

00:12:57.000 The people who are posting the content do not work for you.

00:13:00.000 The people, so YouTube, right, is not liable for the content posted by its creators.

00:13:04.000 So if I post something on YouTube that violates copyright, YouTube cannot be sued.

00:13:08.000 Only I can be sued.

00:13:09.000 That is the basic idea of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

00:13:13.000 And it makes some sense.

00:13:13.000 It was not designed to suggest that you cannot curate.

00:13:16.000 In fact, Section 230 was designed specifically to stop people from penalizing people who curate because the basic case behind Section 230 was Why would you penalize a company that's taking down, for example, pornography on its site, as opposed to a company that just allows pornography on its site?

00:13:32.000 Why would you penalize them?

00:13:34.000 Bottom line is the distinction was between platforms which allow open thread, you can put up what you want, it can still be curated content, and sites that pay people to, or independent contractors to put up content on their site, right?

00:13:47.000 Like so Daily Wire, we actually are sort of bifurcated in this way, right?

00:13:51.000 We have a comment section that we curate, but that we are not responsible for legally.

00:13:55.000 If someone posts something derogatory in our comment section, we are not responsible for that.

00:13:59.000 We'll work to take it down, but we are not responsible for it.

00:14:01.000 And then there are our writers, right?

00:14:03.000 And our writers are paid by us.

00:14:04.000 If they say something that is legally defamatory, right?

00:14:07.000 Then we are liable, right?

00:14:08.000 This is the law under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

00:14:11.000 And Google and YouTube and all the other open thread, right?

00:14:14.000 All the other platforms have relied on Section 230 because imagine for a second that you're YouTube and all of a sudden you're made liable for every video that is placed on your site.

00:14:23.000 And there are literally millions of hours placed on your site every single day.

00:14:27.000 There's tons of content on YouTube that violates various legal provisions.

00:14:30.000 Like tons of it.

00:14:31.000 Tons of it.

00:14:33.000 And let's say that YouTube were made legal, legally liable for that.

00:14:36.000 Well, YouTube would not be in business for more than 37 seconds.

00:14:38.000 They would be done.

00:14:39.000 They would be toast.

00:14:40.000 And so they've relied on Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act saying, listen, we don't post all this content.

00:14:45.000 We do our best to kind of curate it, but we don't post the content.

00:14:48.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:14:49.000 Right, fair enough.

00:14:50.000 And I've said, okay, and if you don't like how they curate their content, well then, form a different site, right?

00:14:54.000 You're perfectly welcome to do that, it's a free country.

00:14:57.000 This lasts only so long as YouTube and Google actually hold themselves to the same standard.

00:15:02.000 So Google owns YouTube.

00:15:03.000 So, according to this NBC News report, basically what happened here is that Google went to the Federalists and said, you are not curating your comments in the way that we would like you to curate your comments, and therefore, we are going to talk about demonetizing you.

00:15:14.000 So in other words, the standard that Google was holding the Federalists to was, you are responsible for the comment sections.

00:15:20.000 We are going to demonetize you for your comment sections.

00:15:24.000 We are going to remove the ability for you to make money from Google Ads because your comment sections are not properly policed.

00:15:30.000 So in other words, you're responsible for your comment sections.

00:15:32.000 We're not responsible for our site, but you're responsible for your comment sections.

00:15:36.000 We cannot be held legally liable for the stuff that people are posting in our comment sections, because after all, that's an open thread.

00:15:42.000 But you can be held liable by us for the comments in your comment section, even though you didn't post them.

00:15:49.000 It's going to make it really difficult for libertarians like me to stare down Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri when he says, okay, hold up a second.

00:15:56.000 Google is going to target people for their comment sections while maintaining that they are not liable for their own comment sections?

00:16:01.000 That sort of hypocrisy cannot stand.

00:16:03.000 You're really going to go after people for their comment sections now?

00:16:05.000 And then you expect us to treat you as completely free of legal liability because after all, you're just a giant comment section?

00:16:12.000 It don't work that way.

00:16:14.000 If you are going to suggest that you actually get to exercise editorial control over where ads land based on comment sections, well now you're a publisher.

00:16:22.000 You are treating yourself as a publisher at this point.

00:16:24.000 Because your editorial control has gone so far that you are now making actual advertising decisions based on content appearing on somebody else's comment section.

00:16:33.000 So no, we're not going to grant you that freedom from liability.

00:16:35.000 We'll rewrite Section 230.

00:16:38.000 One of the proposals that's been made is that you should be granted the right to sue if these publishers, if these platforms rather, do not adhere to their own rules in fair and even fashion.

00:16:48.000 So if Twitter would take down a racist white person, but not take down Louis Farrakhan, for example.

00:16:54.000 And again, I've stood against that because I don't think the government really has a place here.

00:16:57.000 But if these institutions are going to act as the worst kind of government that I decry, it becomes very difficult for me to argue in favor of the libertarian position.

00:17:06.000 So Google is just, the mask is off at Google, too.

00:17:09.000 They don't care about YouTube.

00:17:10.000 They don't care about any semblance of freedom of speech because they're going after people's comment section.

00:17:14.000 And that's a pretext, by the way.

00:17:16.000 This is a pretext.

00:17:16.000 I don't believe Google's story.

00:17:18.000 I think what actually happened is that they saw an article, they didn't like the article, they decided to penalize the Federalist, the blowback was too harsh, so they decided to blame the comment section.

00:17:25.000 And they went directly from the frying pan into the fire.

00:17:28.000 Because it turns out, it is worse to police a site based on its comment section than it is to police a site based on the articles that it posts.

00:17:35.000 All of this is insane because we've now reached the censorious regime desired by the left.

00:17:44.000 But rights are bad so long as they are exercised by people you don't like.

00:17:48.000 Are you coming up?

00:17:49.000 We're going to talk about a couple of other examples of media bias.

00:17:53.000 One from Popular Mechanics.

00:17:54.000 I mean, if you talk about losing the culture war, this is losing the culture war in stunning fashion.

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00:19:46.000 You need to know how to topple a statue.

00:19:47.000 I really look forward to Popular Mechanics' next article, How to Build a Molotov Cocktail.

00:19:51.000 Very important, important stuff.

00:19:54.000 But don't worry guys, it's not activism, it's just journalism.

00:19:57.000 It's just journalism, how to topple a statue.

00:19:59.000 Now all of this is to back a narrative, right?

00:20:00.000 All of this is to back a particular narrative.

00:20:02.000 America is deeply systemically evil, all of its institutions are shot through with evil, and those who do not buy into the narrative must be punished.

00:20:10.000 Must be punished.

00:20:12.000 The best example of this is a truly horrific article from the New York Times.

00:20:17.000 This insane article from the New York Times focuses on high school students and alum.

00:20:20.000 It's called high school students and alumni are using social media to expose racism.

00:20:23.000 Learning has been online and remote this semester.

00:20:26.000 So too now are call outs of questionable behavior.

00:20:29.000 Questionable behavior.

00:20:30.000 So we're going to call out high school students now.

00:20:32.000 Very, very important.

00:20:33.000 Okay, so let me give my perspective on high school students generally. 1.00

00:20:36.000 High school students are idiots. 1.00

00:20:38.000 I was one once. 1.00

00:20:39.000 High school students are dumb. 1.00

00:20:41.000 Meaning that they, my first rule, I get asked for advice from high school students on a routine basis. 1.00

00:20:46.000 And they say, do you have a piece of advice for us?

00:20:47.000 It's like, stay away from social media because everything you do on social media lives forever.

00:20:51.000 I started writing a syndicated column at age 17.

00:20:53.000 Most of my worst columns were written from ages 18 to 21. 1.00

00:20:56.000 When you are young, you are full of vinegar and pep and stupidity. 1.00

00:21:01.000 And you are more likely to post something that you are going to regret later. 1.00

00:21:03.000 I have a whole list of things online about the things I regret having said over the years. 0.99

00:21:07.000 Well, if you're posting stuff on social media when you're 15, 16 years old, chances are very good you're going to post something incredibly idiotic and or offensive. 0.92

00:21:14.000 Now the way normally you would deal with that in a typical scenario, let's say there were no social media. 0.96

00:21:18.000 Somebody would say something offensive in class.

00:21:20.000 Or something would say something offensive to a friend.

00:21:22.000 And then the friend would go to the friend and say, you know, that really hurt my feelings.

00:21:26.000 You really shouldn't say stuff like that.

00:21:27.000 That was offensive.

00:21:29.000 Maybe you didn't mean to offend me.

00:21:30.000 I don't know, but you really shouldn't say stuff like that.

00:21:32.000 And that would give the person a chance for repentance and for making themselves better.

00:21:36.000 Right?

00:21:36.000 That would be the idea.

00:21:38.000 And I'm not speaking, you know, out of school here.

00:21:41.000 When I was in high school, as I've talked about before, I was viciously bullied.

00:21:44.000 And I don't just mean people calling me names.

00:21:46.000 I mean actual hardcore physical abuse.

00:21:48.000 I mean people hitting me with belts and such.

00:21:50.000 I mean like really not great stuff when I was in high school.

00:21:53.000 Now I know the names of all the people who did that.

00:21:56.000 I still remember all their names.

00:21:57.000 I remember all their faces.

00:21:58.000 Many of them are still people in my social circles.

00:22:00.000 I remember all of them. 1.00

00:22:02.000 I've never said the names nor will I say the names because these kids were idiots. 1.00

00:22:05.000 They were 16, 17 years old. 1.00

00:22:06.000 They're morons. 1.00

00:22:08.000 And we handled all of this internally. 1.00

00:22:11.000 We had discussions with the principal.

00:22:12.000 I didn't feel like justice was done.

00:22:14.000 But what I did figure, and what I still figure, is that people have to move beyond what they were at 15 or 16 years old.

00:22:20.000 And you have to give them the opportunity to move beyond what they were when they were 15 or 16 years old.

00:22:24.000 This is particularly true when you're talking about... Mine was an extreme case of physical abuse.

00:22:27.000 When you're talking about what people say, it seems to me that this is triply or quadruply true.

00:22:32.000 You say something dumb when you're 15 or 16 years old, You shouldn't be held accountable at 30 or 35 for it, nor should you be publicly shamed when you are 15 or 16 for it.

00:22:40.000 Somebody should come to you behind the scenes, a mentor, an elder figure, somebody from the community, and say, you know, you really shouldn't have said that. 0.82

00:22:46.000 That was really bad.

00:22:47.000 You should apologize to the person you hurt, and then you should move on with your life and act better.

00:22:50.000 Because guess what?

00:22:51.000 Being young is a time when you are supposed to make yourself better.

00:22:55.000 People don't change very much beyond the age of 30, maybe.

00:22:57.000 But when you're 15 or 16, there's a lot of change going on. 0.99

00:23:00.000 Now the New York Times is writing full-scale articles on why it is good to social media shame high school students who post dumb and or racist crap online. 0.91

00:23:08.000 And I'm just wondering, isn't it possible to help them course correct their behavior without this sort of stuff? 0.99

00:23:14.000 And by the way, this goes for black, white, and green.

00:23:16.000 If you're a 15-year-old kid living in the inner city and you post something really awful online, I don't think that should ruin your life.

00:23:22.000 And I don't think you should be quote-unquote publicly shamed for that.

00:23:25.000 It's one thing to commit a crime, white, black, or green.

00:23:28.000 It is another thing to say something offensive, white, black, or green. 0.99

00:23:31.000 Because people say dumb stuff when they're 14 or 15 years old. 0.96

00:23:34.000 Now, the New York Times is really promoting this idea that what's good is this public shaming ritual. 0.83

00:23:38.000 And it's got to extend all the way down to childhood.

00:23:41.000 So the New York Times has a very, very long article by Taylor Lorenz and Catherine Rosman.

00:23:45.000 Again, this is activism masquerading as journalism because it's actually pushing the agenda.

00:23:49.000 Called, High school students and alumni are using social media to expose racism.

00:23:54.000 Over the past few weeks, as the Black Lives Matter movement has grown following outrage over the killing of George Floyd, high school students have leveraged every social media platform to call out their peers for racist behavior.

00:24:04.000 Very important stuff.

00:24:04.000 You're making the world a better place by taking little Jessica, who said a very bad thing online, and then exposing her to the minions of hatred in the boo box over at Twitter.

00:24:13.000 Very, very important.

00:24:14.000 You couldn't just go on to Jessica and say, you know that was offensive, you might want to take that down.

00:24:17.000 You couldn't have been a decent human being.

00:24:19.000 Instead, you decided, the public must be— We have to Justine Sacco this person.

00:24:24.000 We have to publicly shame this 16-year-old.

00:24:26.000 Students have repurposed large meme accounts, set up Google Docs, and anonymous pages on Instagram, Snapchat, and Twitter, and wielded their personal followings to hold friends and classmates accountable for behavior they deem unacceptable.

00:24:37.000 But they're not holding them accountable.

00:24:38.000 All they're doing is ruining their lives.

00:24:40.000 Accountability would be, you go to somebody and you correct the behavior.

00:24:43.000 That's holding them accountable.

00:24:45.000 People will post videos of people saying the n-word or videos where they're being racist or using derogatory words and stuff like that, and they go viral.

00:24:51.000 Said Sophia Giannata, 16, a sophomore at Whitesboro High School in Whitesboro, New York, where a teacher was recently criticized for stating that all lives matter in a virtual school event he later apologized.

00:25:00.000 Question.

00:25:01.000 How is all lives matter like a great example of such vicious racism that you require public ostracization and public apology?

00:25:08.000 On June 2nd, an anonymous Instagram account dedicated to exposing racism at San Marcos High School in San Marcos, California appeared online.

00:25:14.000 OCSNeptaliGarcia19, a senior, noticed it almost immediately.

00:25:18.000 The account was shared across group chats and Instagram stories.

00:25:20.000 Within a few hours, it had amassed about 900 new followers.

00:25:23.000 The account began sharing screenshots and videos of students at school using racial slurs, engaging in cultural appropriation, participating in the George Floyd Challenge.

00:25:30.000 I mean, all this is ugly stuff.

00:25:31.000 And making insensitive remarks.

00:25:33.000 The names and handles for each student were included in the posts.

00:25:35.000 Within 48 hours, the account had grown to nearly 3,000 followers.

00:25:38.000 And this is the key, right?

00:25:39.000 It's all about the virtue signaling of the followers.

00:25:41.000 It's not about correcting the sins of the people who are sinning.

00:25:43.000 It's about all these people following so they can hit the click, the like, the retweet, and then they can spread out the shame.

00:25:49.000 I've participated in the correction of this person's ba- No, you've corrected- You've participated in the destruction of this person who could have been course-corrected.

00:25:55.000 Who could have been course-corrected?

00:25:56.000 Because I assume when you're 16 or 15, you can be course-corrected.

00:25:59.000 And I think it's a fairly safe assumption.

00:26:00.000 It's one of the key assumptions of American criminal law for juveniles, by the way.

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00:27:10.000 Again, the New York Times promoting this idea that this is very good.

00:27:13.000 These call-out pages, they're very good.

00:27:15.000 These pages are popping up left and right at Ethan Ramirez, 18, a graduate of Bowie High School in Austin, Texas.

00:27:20.000 There's ones that are region-specific, high school-specific, district-specific.

00:27:23.000 Several large meme accounts have also now devoted themselves to exposing racist behavior.

00:27:27.000 Students are invited to submit screenshots of problematic behavior, which are in turn shared to an audience of sometimes thousands online.

00:27:34.000 They'll allow people to submit anonymous info or images or videos.

00:27:37.000 They'll cross out the senator's name but leave the racist person's contact info basically for everyone to call them out.

00:27:43.000 The result is a social media pylon.

00:27:45.000 Harassment, doxing, cancellation.

00:27:47.000 Brinna Barry, 16, a student at a Catholic day school in Jacksonville, Florida, learned this firsthand.

00:27:51.000 After posting some advocacy on Instagram and TikTok for the Blue Lives Matter movement, Ms.

00:27:54.000 Barry, whose father is a police officer, was met with vicious harassment.

00:27:57.000 Her posts spread across her peers' Instagram feeds, and quote, my own friends were commenting that I was a racist and they can't support me.

00:28:02.000 Things travel fast.

00:28:03.000 I'm nervous about my address getting leaked.

00:28:06.000 Question, is this making things better?

00:28:08.000 Is this really making things better?

00:28:10.000 It turns out that most of the political change that happens in the United States is based on friends talking to friends, and people talking to each other like friends.

00:28:17.000 How often have you been converted by people browbeating you?

00:28:20.000 The answer is virtually never.

00:28:21.000 People are not politically converted, and they're not converted from sin by people browbeating them.

00:28:26.000 Fire and brimstone type stuff tends to get people motivated, but it doesn't actually convince people on the other side or people who have sinned that you are a welcoming presence hoping to help them.

00:28:35.000 Instead, what it does is alienate them.

00:28:37.000 It makes them feel that you're a bad person.

00:28:40.000 This entire culture is designed to make a certain cadre of people feel very good about themselves for doing something very bad.

00:28:46.000 The call-out culture is a horrible thing for the country.

00:28:48.000 It is a bad thing for the country.

00:28:51.000 Calling people out privately and telling them that you don't like that behavior and as a friend you think it's a bad idea, that's a good thing.

00:28:56.000 Calling people out publicly in front of a thousand strangers, particularly kids...

00:29:01.000 In order to quote-unquote shame them is an absurdity.

00:29:03.000 It's a moral absurdity.

00:29:04.000 You're not doing anything good.

00:29:05.000 You're not.

00:29:06.000 All you're doing is creating a totalitarian culture in which people are afraid to speak.

00:29:09.000 And then, by the way, still say the bad things behind closed doors because they've not been converted from their original views.

00:29:14.000 Instead, they've just been browbeaten into silence.

00:29:17.000 So you didn't correct the problem.

00:29:18.000 All you did was push it underground.

00:29:20.000 And that's really what's going to happen here.

00:29:21.000 And it's ugly.

00:29:22.000 It's bad. 0.99

00:29:23.000 And speaking of the call-out culture and the stupidity of call-out culture, Mike Gundy, right, who is the Oklahoma coach, Oklahoma football coach, he was called out. 0.99

00:29:33.000 Why? 0.99

00:29:33.000 Because that guy, he wore a t-shirt with OANN on it. 0.99

00:29:37.000 One America News Network.

00:29:39.000 He had that t-shirt and he wore it and he said he sometimes watches it.

00:29:41.000 That's very bad.

00:29:42.000 So now, he's been forced to apologize.

00:29:43.000 First rule of mob cancellation, don't apologize.

00:29:46.000 Don't apologize.

00:29:47.000 Apologize for the stuff that you have done that's actually wrong.

00:29:50.000 Don't apologize for liking a particular network.

00:29:53.000 Don't apologize for any of this stuff.

00:29:54.000 Because guess what?

00:29:55.000 The apology's not going to be enough.

00:29:56.000 Gundy's going to find himself on the chopping block partially because he apologized.

00:30:00.000 The dirty little secret of cancel culture is you don't have to be canceled.

00:30:04.000 You don't have to be canceled.

00:30:06.000 You can only cancel you.

00:30:07.000 In a free country, only you can cancel you.

00:30:09.000 Here's Mike Gundy apologizing yesterday because he's afraid of losing his job, and then probably the apology will prompt him to lose his job anyway.

00:30:15.000 Here's Mike Gundy from OSU yesterday.

00:30:19.000 Once I learned how that network felt about Black Lives Matter, I was disgusted and knew it was completely unacceptable to me.

00:30:29.000 I want to apologize to all members of our team, former players, and their families for the pain and discomfort that has been caused over the last two days.

00:30:40.000 Black lives matter to me.

00:30:43.000 Our players matter to me.

00:30:46.000 Okay, blink a few times if you need, if it's an SOS.

00:30:49.000 I mean, these are hostage videos, essentially.

00:30:52.000 Right?

00:30:52.000 You can believe Black Lives Matter and also watch the news coverage on OANN.

00:30:55.000 In fact, you can even, you can watch all sorts of kooky stuff.

00:30:57.000 It's a free country.

00:30:58.000 You can do whatever you want.

00:30:59.000 But this idea that this means that you are racist because you watch stuff that was not approved by the popular, and listen, I'm not a huge fan of some of the programming on OANN.

00:31:07.000 There's some people over there I'm friends with.

00:31:08.000 There's some people I definitely am not.

00:31:10.000 But the idea that you wore a t-shirt and now you are cancelled is absurd.

00:31:13.000 And again, the only way to escape the censure is to repeat the mantras.

00:31:17.000 I talked about this yesterday.

00:31:18.000 This is unity through totalitarianism, through cultural totalitarianism.

00:31:21.000 Repeat and believe.

00:31:23.000 Repeat the mantras and you will be protected.

00:31:26.000 And so you end up with Roger Goodell suggesting that he wants Colin Kaepernick, a man who suggested that the killing of the lead terrorist in the Iranian regime was just the murder of more black and brown bodies by America, right? 0.61

00:31:37.000 Colin Kaepernick, a guy who wore socks with cops and pigs on them while he was practicing back in 2015.

00:31:42.000 That guy is going to be the social guide of the NFL, according to Roger Goodell.

00:31:45.000 Again, Roger, blink if you need us to deploy a team.

00:31:49.000 These hostage videos are just beyond.

00:31:51.000 If he wants to resume his career in the NFL, that obviously is going to take a team to make that decision, but I welcome that.

00:32:01.000 that support the club making that decision and encourage them to do that.

00:32:06.000 If his efforts are not on the field, but and continuing to work in this space, we welcome to that to that table and to be able to help us and guide us and help us make better decisions about the kinds of things that need to be done in communities.

00:32:23.000 Okay, and great.

00:32:25.000 I definitely need Colin Kaepernick, who's worn a Che Guevara t-shirt, by the way, to talk about, like, OANN t-shirt, very bad, apologize.

00:32:32.000 Che Guevara t-shirt, you know, actual communist mass murderer, totally fine. 0.89

00:32:35.000 Totally fine.

00:32:36.000 Good stuff happening in our culture right now.

00:32:39.000 And what exactly is the narrative that you're supposed to buy into?

00:32:41.000 You're supposed to buy into the narrative that America is uniquely evil.

00:32:43.000 Tim Kaine, former vice presidential candidate, senator from Virginia, He actually just said this straight out on the floor of the Senate yesterday.

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00:34:20.000 By changing snap, crackle, and pop on the Rice Krispies packaging.

00:34:24.000 Very, very important stuff.

00:34:25.000 Solving racism, one branding matter at a time.

00:34:28.000 We'll get to that momentarily first.

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00:37:12.000 All righty, so, Tim, what is the narrative that you must believe and repeat?

00:37:21.000 The narrative you must believe and repeat is that all of American history is rooted in bigotry and evil, all of America's institutions are bigoted and evil, and that America is uniquely evil.

00:37:30.000 Because what you can't do is contextualize the United States.

00:37:33.000 You can't contextualize our history.

00:37:34.000 You can't point out that America was not unique.

00:37:37.000 In allowing slavery.

00:37:39.000 America was unique in working to get rid of slavery.

00:37:42.000 Western civilization is unique in that way.

00:37:44.000 It took Western civilization to end slavery.

00:37:46.000 Slavery still exists in many non-Western parts of the world today.

00:37:49.000 Like, en masse.

00:37:51.000 Officially, Saudi Arabia didn't abolish slavery until 1963, guys.

00:37:55.000 Like a hundred years after the Civil War.

00:37:57.000 It took Western civilization to end slavery.

00:37:58.000 Western civilization is uniquely good because of the good stuff it did.

00:38:02.000 Western civilization is like the rest of humanity in terms of all the bad stuff it did.

00:38:05.000 It is uniquely good in terms of the good stuff that it did.

00:38:08.000 But, for the left, the narrative is that America is uniquely evil. 0.96

00:38:11.000 And so, this prompts people like Tim Kaine to say something so historically ignorant, it's almost beyond belief. 0.95

00:38:15.000 He says that America created slavery. 0.86

00:38:19.000 He doesn't say just America.

00:38:20.000 The United States created slavery.

00:38:21.000 Now, that's an absurdity on its face.

00:38:23.000 First of all, the United States didn't actually form until 1776.

00:38:27.000 Until then, it was British colonies, right? 0.67

00:38:29.000 So even if you believe the 1619 Project, the United States inherited slavery from colonists who had been there for 150 years. 0.70

00:38:36.000 But as it turns out, he's not even right about this.

00:38:39.000 Slavery in the Western Hemisphere did not originate with Americans.

00:38:43.000 It didn't originate with British colonists. 0.97

00:38:45.000 But here's Tim Kaine being a complete and utter buffoon, because he is a complete and utter buffoon who's about to go stage a hold-up on a train, apparently. 0.98

00:38:51.000 He's always wearing these bandanas. 0.99

00:38:53.000 He can't just get a regular mask.

00:38:54.000 Gotta wear the bandana.

00:38:55.000 Looks like he's gonna participate in a hold-up.

00:38:56.000 Anyway, here was Tim Kaine.

00:38:57.000 Remember, this guy was almost the Vice President of the United States.

00:39:00.000 Here he was yesterday.

00:39:02.000 The first African Americans into the English colonies came to Point Comfort, Virginia in 1619.

00:39:08.000 They were slaves.

00:39:09.000 They'd been captured against their will.

00:39:11.000 But they landed in colonies that didn't have slavery.

00:39:14.000 There were no laws about slavery in the colonies at that time.

00:39:19.000 The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody.

00:39:21.000 We created it.

00:39:23.000 It got created by the Virginia General Assembly and the legislatures of other states.

00:39:27.000 It got created by the court systems in colonial America and since that enforced fugitive slave laws.

00:39:35.000 We created it.

00:39:37.000 We created it.

00:39:38.000 He says, we created it and maintained it over centuries.

00:39:40.000 In my lifetime, we finally stopped the practices.

00:39:42.000 We've never gone back to undo it.

00:39:43.000 I know, I feel like we've undone the legal regimes that allowed slavery.

00:39:46.000 I feel like we undid that a while ago.

00:39:48.000 And also, we've spent the last 50 years undoing the regimes of Jim Crow, it feels like.

00:39:52.000 He says, stopping racist practices after 350 or 400 years, but then taking no effort to dismantle them, is not the same as truly combating racism.

00:40:00.000 Taking no steps to dismantle them?

00:40:02.000 We've literally spent every waking hour in the American federal government trying to dismantle Jim Crow.

00:40:06.000 And what does he think the Civil Rights Act was?

00:40:09.000 Seriously, we've spent $5 trillion on poverty programs that were largely designed by their creators in order to alleviate a lot of the disproportionate impact of things like Jim Crow.

00:40:18.000 Also, Tim Kaine's just dead wrong on the history.

00:40:20.000 In order to paint America as uniquely evil, he has to ignore the fact that slavery has been the actual rule rather than the exception across all of human history.

00:40:26.000 It existed for the Greeks.

00:40:27.000 It existed for the Romans.

00:40:29.000 It existed for the ancient Hebrews.

00:40:30.000 It existed in Native American tribes, by the way.

00:40:32.000 Pre-existing.

00:40:33.000 The coming of Western civilization.

00:40:36.000 It was British colonists, not Americans, who imported slaves to America.

00:40:39.000 Spanish colonists held slaves in the New World long prior to 1619.

00:40:42.000 They began importing African slaves to Hispaniola, which is now Cuba, in 1501, a hundred years prior to the arrival of British colonists.

00:40:51.000 The first African slaves arrived in Spanish Florida in 1526.

00:40:55.000 Slavery was not uncommon among Native American tribes either.

00:40:58.000 Captives were regularly taken and made into slaves for particular tribes.

00:41:03.000 Slavery was common in Latin America and in Mesoamerica.

00:41:06.000 So the idea that America is uniquely evil is something that Tim Kaine has to rely upon.

00:41:11.000 And if you don't repeat and believe, then it's because you are unwoke.

00:41:14.000 You are unwoke.

00:41:15.000 Repeat and believe.

00:41:17.000 Just absolute insanity.

00:41:17.000 Repeat and believe.

00:41:19.000 But again, bad history lies at the root of all this.

00:41:21.000 By the way, people in the Democratic Party don't even know their history.

00:41:24.000 Hysterically, I mean, this is really quite funny.

00:41:26.000 A top mainstream fact checker wrote on Tuesday, you remember the Democrats just a few weeks ago?

00:41:31.000 It was actually last week.

00:41:32.000 They wore kente cloths. 0.99

00:41:33.000 Remember this?

00:41:34.000 In the most obvious moment of cultural appropriation in human history, a bunch of old white Democrats who couldn't even get up after kneeling knelt while wearing kente cloths. 0.86

00:41:42.000 If Mitt Romney had worn one to a Black Lives Matter rally, he would have immediately been called out as an old white dude trying to appropriate cultural symbolism.

00:41:49.000 Nancy Pelosi does it in Hero of the Republic.

00:41:51.000 Heroine of the Republic!

00:41:53.000 Well, it turns out that, according to a top mainstream fact-checker, kensei cloths were, quote, historically worn by an empire involved in the West African slave trade.

00:42:01.000 Whoops!

00:42:03.000 USA Today fact-checked the following statement from a Facebook user.

00:42:06.000 Yesterday, the Democrats wore kensei scarves and knelt down for their photo op, so check this out.

00:42:10.000 Kensei cloth was worn by the Ashanti.

00:42:11.000 It's made of silk, so the affluent wore it.

00:42:13.000 The Ashanti were also known as slave owners and traders.

00:42:16.000 The USA Today rated the claim true, saying that the kente cloth was historically worn by the Asante people of Ghana, who were involved in the West African slave trade.

00:42:16.000 Whoops.

00:42:24.000 Well, that's awkward.

00:42:26.000 Yeah, it turns out that slavery was not unique to America.

00:42:26.000 That's awkward.

00:42:30.000 And also, if you're going to culturally appropriate, do it better, Democrats.

00:42:33.000 Really, really well done.

00:42:34.000 But the good news is that we are fixing all the things, all the things that are really generating racism in America.

00:42:40.000 Those are the things we have to fix.

00:42:42.000 Quaker Oats has now decided to drop its Aunt Jemima brand because it was stereotypical and based on antebellum stereotypical images of black people.

00:42:50.000 That's fine.

00:42:50.000 You want to drop the brand?

00:42:52.000 All to the good.

00:42:52.000 Really, seriously, enjoy yourself.

00:42:54.000 That's fine.

00:42:54.000 Quaker Oats can do exactly what it wants.

00:42:56.000 I also hope that they drop the Quaker Oat brand because that is also based on a stereotype about Quakers being honest as the day is long and all of this.

00:43:02.000 But dropping the Aunt Jemima brand?

00:43:04.000 More power to you.

00:43:05.000 You want to do it?

00:43:06.000 Fine, but are we really going to pretend that people have been eating the pancake batter from Aunt Jemima for years, and that this evidenced some sort of toxic racism?

00:43:19.000 I mean, I don't want to speak for everybody, but I feel like Aunt Jemima's cake batter and pancake batter, they're kosher.

00:43:26.000 I feel like I've been eating that for a long time, and it has never once occurred to me that race has anything to do with the pancake batter.

00:43:34.000 Like, again, you want to get rid of a stereotypical symbol?

00:43:37.000 Enjoy.

00:43:37.000 But are we going to pretend that this is making, like, a real difference in American life?

00:43:40.000 Because if so, you're an idiot. 1.00

00:43:41.000 Like, if you really believe that race- Racism solved! 1.00

00:43:44.000 We got rid of the Aunt Jemima symbol.

00:43:45.000 We're not- we're not just doing that, by the way.

00:43:47.000 Apparently, Kellogg's cereal boxes have been added to the list of supposedly racist symbols by a disgraced leftist former politician in the UK.

00:43:54.000 This is according to Breitbart.

00:43:55.000 Fiona Onasanya, a former Labour Party MP, who's kicked out of parliament by her own voters, has called on Kellogg's to justify why Rice Krispies is represented by three white boys while the Coco Puffs mascot is a monkey.

00:44:09.000 Yes, clearly Kellogg's...

00:44:12.000 There are no words.

00:44:19.000 There are no words. 0.96

00:44:20.000 Solving racism by going after the white elves, all the white elves on the Rice Krispies box. 0.87

00:44:24.000 Solving racism. 1.00

00:44:25.000 Now here's the part that's the most idiotic about all of this. 0.98

00:44:28.000 There are certain areas of American life where policy can be made that actually reduces racial divides. 0.97

00:44:34.000 But because imaging, this is a perfect example of this, because image and message matters a hell of a lot more than actual policy outcome, you end up with crappy policy, truly bleepy policy.

00:44:44.000 Bleepy being a four-letter word that begins with S and ends with it.

00:44:47.000 Okay, this is a truly bleepy policy.

00:44:49.000 So, the University of California dropped the SAT and the ACT.

00:44:52.000 Why?

00:44:53.000 Because it turns out that disproportionately, black and Hispanic students were doing all that well on the SAT and the ACT.

00:44:59.000 And so for a long time, this has been a bugaboo of the left, that the test is racist.

00:45:02.000 It can't be that people are underachieving for a variety of reasons, including bad educational environment.

00:45:07.000 No, it's got to be that the test is racist.

00:45:09.000 There's only one problem.

00:45:10.000 There's only one problem.

00:45:11.000 The UC system actually did a study, a 228-page report.

00:45:16.000 And that 228-page report, which was loaded with hundreds of displays of data from the UC's various admissions department, according to Richard Bernstein at RealClear Investigations, found that the SAT and the ACT actually helped increase black, Hispanic, and Native American enrollment at the system's 10 campuses.

00:45:34.000 The report recommended that their use be continued.

00:45:36.000 Why?

00:45:37.000 Because it turns out the real reason that black and Hispanic students were not getting into the UC system is because their grades were not high enough.

00:45:43.000 So it turns out that the SAT and the ACT actually militated against the worst use of things like grades.

00:45:51.000 So they say you want more black and Hispanic students?

00:45:53.000 Keep using the SAT.

00:45:54.000 And the ACT, it doesn't matter that it has disproportionate results.

00:45:57.000 It's even more disproportionate when you look at grades.

00:45:58.000 So keep using the SAT and the ACT.

00:46:00.000 But the UC system, because they want to say that the test is racist, even if the evidence shows that it absolutely is not racist, they're getting rid of the SAT and the ACT.

00:46:09.000 Eddie Kamau, a professor of education at UC Riverside, co-chair of the faculty task force, said in a Zoom interview that, quote, many of us thought the process might be a political one.

00:46:19.000 He said there were several very prominent figures with public statements made pretty clear their opposition to tests even before the task force started its undertaking.

00:46:25.000 The regent's vote was kind of preordained.

00:46:27.000 It was 23 to nothing.

00:46:29.000 23 to nothing.

00:46:30.000 There was not a single person in the UC system who voted to keep the SAT and the ACT despite factual data provided by admissions departments showing that the ACT and the SAT actually made more black and Hispanic students eligible for the UCs.

00:46:44.000 So the regents decided to get rid of the SAT and the ACT.

00:46:49.000 Maria Anguiano, who's one region, said, I very much appreciate the task force's work and the database it put together, but I also believe in peer review as part of the research process.

00:46:57.000 There's been decades of research showing that SAT scores are mostly correlated with wealth and privilege, so I can't support the use of this tool.

00:47:03.000 It's exclusionary and a filtering mechanism.

00:47:05.000 Ironically, of course, the SAT and the ACT and the college boards were actually designed to prevent privilege from being utilized because it turns out that Jews, Italians, and Irish and people from Asian countries were scoring better on those tests.

00:47:17.000 And it was granting them access above and beyond the sort of WASP-y admission systems that had heretofore existed at many major universities. 0.88

00:47:25.000 So they just ignored the data.

00:47:29.000 Well done, everybody.

00:47:30.000 According to that report, by the way, the UC system in 2018 admitted 22,613 applicants with weak grades but strong SAT scores.

00:47:38.000 A quarter of those students were members of underrepresented minorities, or URMs, nearly half were low-income or first-generation students.

00:47:44.000 Breaking down the numbers, 24% of Hispanics, 40% of blacks, 47% of Native Americans who gained admissions to the UC did so because of their SAT scores, not despite them, according to the task force.

00:47:55.000 The original intent of the SAT was to identify students who came from outside relatively privileged circles who might have the potential to succeed at university, said the report.

00:48:02.000 This original intent is clearly being realized at the UC.

00:48:07.000 But instead, because it's more important to say that the SAT is racist because of its disproportionate outcome, because that's deeply, deeply important, they just got rid of the SAT and the ACT, which actually hurts minority kids!

00:48:18.000 Because again, the message is more important than actually helping minority kids. 0.91

00:48:21.000 By the way, it is also worth noting that bigotry is perfectly allowed so long as you're perfectly woke.

00:48:27.000 As part of the messaging, it's perfectly okay to be openly anti-Jewish. 0.85

00:48:31.000 I mean, beyond the obvious of Bill de Blasio ignoring anti-Semitism in his own city, there have been a bevy of various pro-Black Lives Matter celebrities who are approvingly posting videos of Louis Farrakhan. 0.81

00:48:47.000 Chelsea Handler posted a video of Louis Farrakhan, who's just a vicious anti-Semite.

00:48:52.000 She said Farrakhan's statement on racism from an old clip of the Phil Donahue show was powerful.

00:48:57.000 When a commenter asked her if she would single out for praise some out-of-context statement of Hitler's, she argued Farrakhan's hate was different because, quote, he is just responsible for his own promotion of anti-Semitic beliefs.

00:49:06.000 They are very different.

00:49:08.000 So anti-Semitism is just an opinion some people might hold.

00:49:10.000 It is not evidence of being hateful.

00:49:13.000 By the way, a bunch of other celebrities then came out in support.

00:49:15.000 Jennifer Aniston, Jennifer Garner, Michelle Pfeiffer, they all voiced support for Handler after she tweeted out Louis Farrakhan.

00:49:20.000 So certain types of bigotry, okay.

00:49:22.000 Certain types of non-bigotry, like the SAT and the ACT, absolutely not.

00:49:25.000 Only the message matters, guys.

00:49:27.000 Only the message matters.

00:49:28.000 Now, you want to see, full scale, how only the message matters?

00:49:32.000 Point out the fact that Donald Trump yesterday signed an executive order that changed some policing tactics in the United States.

00:49:39.000 So you put out this long executive order and the executive order does things like certifying independent credentialing bodies that are designed to address certain topics and reviews like policies and training regarding use of force and de-escalation techniques to make it to set up a federal database so that people who are bad cops are known throughout the United States.

00:50:00.000 That they can set standards for certifications that demonstrate that the state or local law enforcement agency's use of force policies prohibit the use of chokeholds, except in situations where the use of deadly force is allowed by law.

00:50:14.000 So all of this is policy that many on the left should be very comfortable with, right?

00:50:18.000 I mean, it is pushing for added funding for mental health and homelessness and addiction.

00:50:22.000 It is attempting to get rid of certain policing tactics.

00:50:25.000 It's an attempt to make bad cops more answerable and less able to shift from department to department.

00:50:29.000 I mean, that's what the executive order does.

00:50:31.000 Okay, but President Trump, in the process of this, didn't rip into the police as racist.

00:50:35.000 And that's the message the media wanted to take away.

00:50:38.000 That's the message the media wanted to take away.

00:50:40.000 So President Trump yesterday, he said, listen, we want to make the cops better at their jobs and give them more tools and hold them to a higher standard.

00:50:46.000 But if you remove cops, the law abiding get hurt, which is obviously true by every available social science statistic.

00:50:52.000 Americans want law and order.

00:50:54.000 They demand law and order.

00:50:56.000 They may not say it.

00:50:58.000 They may not be talking about it, but that's what they want.

00:51:02.000 Some of them don't even know that's what they want, but that's what they want.

00:51:06.000 And they understand that when you remove the police, you hurt those who have the least the most.

00:51:14.000 Okay, he's exactly right about this.

00:51:16.000 But people, instead of embracing the executive order, and also embracing the message that you need the cops, the media decided that the big story here is that Trump wasn't repeating the message.

00:51:24.000 He wasn't repeating the messages they wanted him to repeat.

00:51:27.000 So the headline at the Washington Post was, Trump signs order on policing, but Democrats and activists say it falls far short of what is needed.

00:51:34.000 The headline from NBC on Trump's executive order suggested that Trump signs order on police reform, but says nothing about racism.

00:51:43.000 So it's all what he doesn't say.

00:51:44.000 It's all what he doesn't say.

00:51:47.000 It's an absurdity.

00:51:48.000 So there are some people who are at least honest about this.

00:51:51.000 Van Jones, he says some progress has been made here.

00:51:54.000 At least Van Jones is honest about this.

00:51:58.000 There is a new floor, a higher floor for Congress to now depart from that includes law enforcement support for data, for de-escalators, for better training, and against chokeholds.

00:52:09.000 I think progress has been made, muddied by, I think, a speech that was, you know, really, I think, you know, over the line in a lot of ways if you're trying to go for unity.

00:52:19.000 But I think the speech goes away over time.

00:52:21.000 I think the progress that the people have made in getting even the Trump White House, the Republicans, and now law enforcement along with Democrats to take steps forward is really powerful.

00:52:32.000 Hey, Van Jones got trended for this on Twitter for giving credit for the executive order.

00:52:36.000 The more typical view from the left was that of Maya Wiley on MSNBC, who said her big issue was not what was in the order, but the fact that there were a bunch of white people signing it.

00:52:45.000 Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump himself have long, since the beginning of this administration, made clear that they are on the side of lawless policing in a law and order framework.

00:52:59.000 And he just did that again.

00:53:01.000 Andrea, you know, we have to stop and take one, really one slowdown for a minute on the optics of that press conference. 0.72

00:53:10.000 All I saw were white faces when we're talking about black bodies. 1.00

00:53:16.000 Ah, there we go. 0.99

00:53:17.000 There we go.

00:53:17.000 So it doesn't matter the content of what was said, all that matters is the color of the faces.

00:53:21.000 Makes perfect sense.

00:53:22.000 Makes perfect sense.

00:53:23.000 This is all making for a better society.

00:53:24.000 The message matters more than the actual policy.

00:53:27.000 Helping people comes second to actually hurting people.

00:53:30.000 Right?

00:53:30.000 That's all that matters.

00:53:30.000 Hurting people who don't repeat the right message.

00:53:32.000 That's the important thing.

00:53:34.000 That's the important thing.

00:53:35.000 Making society better.

00:53:35.000 One... One... One...

00:53:39.000 Castigation at a time.

00:53:40.000 Well done, everybody.

00:53:42.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate, and then we'll do a quick thing that I like.

00:53:47.000 So, quick thing that I hate today.

00:53:50.000 So this is amazing.

00:53:51.000 So Anthony Fauci, National Institutes of Health and Infectious Diseases, Anthony Fauci had said very early on that masks are not particularly effective.

00:54:00.000 This clip went around.

00:54:01.000 Masks are not effective.

00:54:02.000 And it turns out masks are actually incredibly effective.

00:54:04.000 Countries that have used masks have seen very little regression in terms of COVID cases.

00:54:09.000 That masks help prevent spread and transmission of this stuff.

00:54:13.000 If everybody wore a mask, transmission would drop very close to zero.

00:54:16.000 That masks are maybe the best tool that we have in the absence of other drugs that could be used here.

00:54:23.000 So why exactly were they recommending that we not use masks?

00:54:25.000 Because Anthony Fauci said we can't trust the American people.

00:54:27.000 The American people would have gone out and bought masks for themselves and then they would not have been available for medical health professionals.

00:54:32.000 So we lied to people.

00:54:33.000 We lied to people.

00:54:35.000 Well done.

00:54:35.000 So you had more community spread because the federal government decided to lie to people.

00:54:38.000 Don't trust people.

00:54:39.000 Lie to them.

00:54:40.000 Well done, Anthony Fauci.

00:54:43.000 The public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.

00:54:58.000 And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the healthcare workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in harm ways to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected, we did not want them to be without the equipment that they needed.

00:55:19.000 So, they lied.

00:55:22.000 They lied.

00:55:22.000 Really good stuff.

00:55:23.000 Trust your public health experts, except when they're openly lying to you, in order to achieve a certain policy result.

00:55:29.000 This is a very bad way of governing.

00:55:31.000 It wouldn't matter if it's a Republican or a Democrat.

00:55:32.000 It's a very, very bad way of governing.

00:55:36.000 Meanwhile, the media continue to do their best to seed panic all over the country.

00:55:40.000 So they weren't panicked last week when tens of thousands of people were out in the streets.

00:55:42.000 That's all for the good, right?

00:55:44.000 You have a Black Trans Matters, Lives Matters movement in Brooklyn, and you got 40,000 people out there, but you got some kids playing in Williamsburg.

00:55:51.000 Gotta stop that.

00:55:52.000 Gotta weld the playground shut. 1.00

00:55:53.000 Now it's panic time.

00:55:54.000 And where is it panic time?

00:55:56.000 Well, where do you think it's panic time?

00:55:57.000 Florida, Texas, and Arizona.

00:55:58.000 Yeah, panic time in Florida.

00:55:59.000 Now, here's the question.

00:56:01.000 Not the number of positive tests that come back.

00:56:03.000 The question is, what are the hospitalization rates?

00:56:06.000 When we reopened, the question, flattening the curve was never about stopping the spread of the disease entirely.

00:56:11.000 Flattening the curve was about preventing the overwhelm of our healthcare system.

00:56:14.000 I said this one million times on the program.

00:56:16.000 And I know we've been moving the goalposts radically.

00:56:19.000 I mean, like, all over the field.

00:56:20.000 To the 20-yard line, to the 10-yard line, to the 50-yard line. 1.00

00:56:22.000 Like, all over the damn field. 0.99

00:56:24.000 We're now way off the field, right? 0.99

00:56:25.000 We've moved to a separate field.

00:56:26.000 We've moved to a different location.

00:56:28.000 Entirely with the goalposts.

00:56:29.000 The original purpose of flattening the curve was to prevent the hospital system from being overwhelmed.

00:56:34.000 It is not being overwhelmed in Florida.

00:56:36.000 It is not being overwhelmed in Texas.

00:56:37.000 It is not being overwhelmed in Arizona.

00:56:39.000 It doesn't matter.

00:56:39.000 The media are now covering this stuff without any sort of real context.

00:56:42.000 So the headline from the New York Times is, Florida, Texas, and Arizona all set records for the most cases they have reported in a single day.

00:56:49.000 They also set records for the most number of tests they gave in a single day.

00:56:52.000 Okay, so the actual question is what is the positivity rate and what's the hospitalization rate?

00:56:56.000 Because even if the positivity rate is high, maybe it's a bunch of young people coming in with mild cases.

00:57:00.000 That doesn't mean that the hospital system is going to be overwhelmed.

00:57:03.000 I don't care if somebody gets COVID and then they have like a fever for a few days and they're fine because they're 20.

00:57:09.000 Like, that's not something you should deeply—just as I don't care if somebody gets the flu and they're out of work for a couple of days.

00:57:13.000 That's not a huge—that's not something that is earth-shattering news, right?

00:57:17.000 That is not the destruction of the American healthcare system or the rise in death, right?

00:57:21.000 What we really ought to be worried about is preventable death, meaning the overwhelm of the healthcare system.

00:57:25.000 That was that area above the line in the high curve, right?

00:57:28.000 That's what we were all worried about.

00:57:29.000 There is no evidence that Florida, Arizona, or Texas are being overwhelmed.

00:57:34.000 According to the New York Times, however, the virus continued its steady spread across the Sun Belt on Tuesday, with state officials in Arizona, Florida, and Texas all reporting their largest one-day increases in new cases yet.

00:57:44.000 Florida reported 2,783 new cases, Texas 2,622, Arizona 2,392.

00:57:49.000 The new daily highs came as all three states have increased testing and moved swiftly to ease social distancing restrictions and allow more businesses to reopen.

00:57:58.000 Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida attributed the uptick to more widespread testing, noting, at a news conference Tuesday, the state was not only testing far more people than it did earlier in the spring, but was also going into high-risk environments and testing farm workers and migrant workers and finding new cases.

00:58:11.000 But epidemiologists have said the numbers suggest increased transmissions.

00:58:15.000 Well, you would expect there would be increased transmissions.

00:58:16.000 There are more people out in public, obviously.

00:58:19.000 But that does not necessarily mean that the state has to shutter again.

00:58:22.000 He said you have to have society function, which, of course, is exactly right.

00:58:27.000 Now again, the notion that this is going to overwhelm the healthcare system and we have to shut down again, you're seeing the media starting to stump for all of this.

00:58:36.000 How about the fact that nationwide, the positivity rate remains essentially the same as it was since late May?

00:58:36.000 How about this?

00:58:41.000 It's a little bit different in some of the states, it is not different nationally.

00:58:44.000 Basically, it's receded in New York, it has increased in some places that have opened up elsewhere, but the death rates have not increased and the hospitalizations have not increased to the point where we are worried about it.

00:58:53.000 This is why Mike Pence is saying, there isn't a coronavirus second wave.

00:58:58.000 Mike Pence has an editorial in the Wall Street Journal today.

00:59:00.000 He says,

00:59:29.000 Cases have stabilized over the past two weeks.

00:59:31.000 The average daily case rate across the U.S.

00:59:32.000 has dropped down to about 20,000 from 30,000 in April and 25,000 in May.

00:59:37.000 The truth is we've made great progress over the past four months.

00:59:41.000 It says we've expanded our supply of crucial medical equipment.

00:59:44.000 We've expanded our tests to roughly 500,000 per day.

00:59:48.000 We've increased personal protective equipment.

00:59:50.000 We've also made great progress on developing therapeutics and a vaccine.

00:59:53.000 Last month, Gilead Sciences announced it would donate 940,000 vials of its new drug Remdesivir to treat more than 120,000 patients in the U.S.

01:00:01.000 under Operation Warp Speed.

01:00:04.000 And by the way, it is worth noting, in other good news that is not getting all the press that it should, it turns out that a very, very common steroid, I asked my wife about this because of course she is a doctor, I asked my wife about this, it turns out that a very, very common steroid dramatically reduces death in people who are on ventilators or on oxygen.

01:00:19.000 This is according to the New York Times.

01:00:22.000 But again, the media are reporting this but it's not getting the kind of coverage as, spike, we're all gonna die.

01:00:26.000 Really, that was the... There was a story yesterday.

01:00:29.000 I think it was from... Was it from the New York Times?

01:00:31.000 I'm trying to remember the source.

01:00:32.000 About how if you flush a toilet, it's gonna flush these germs three feet in the air and stay there forever and you're all gonna die.

01:00:37.000 Never flush a toilet again.

01:00:38.000 Great ideas, guys.

01:00:39.000 How about you try to measure how many people have been infected by flushing toilets before you panic everybody?

01:00:39.000 How about this?

01:00:44.000 We heard for weeks that you were gonna get it from picking up an Amazon package at your front door.

01:00:49.000 Okay, turns out that's not true.

01:00:50.000 Nobody's getting it from surfaces.

01:00:52.000 People are getting it from being in close contact with human beings in closed areas and breathing on them.

01:00:56.000 Because the viral load on surfaces is just not that high.

01:01:00.000 The New York Times, again, this is good news.

01:01:01.000 In an unexpected sign of hope amid the expanding pandemic, scientists at University of Oxford said on Thursday an inexpensive and commonly available drug reduced deaths in patients with severe COVID-19.

01:01:11.000 If the finding is borne out, the drug, a steroid called dexamethasone, would be the first treatment shown to reduce mortality in several severely ill patients.

01:01:18.000 Had doctors been using the drug to treat the sickest COVID-19 patients in Britain from the beginning, up to 5,000 deaths could have been prevented, according to researchers.

01:01:25.000 The reason that they didn't is because using a steroid has the effect of suppressing the immune system and people were afraid.

01:01:31.000 They didn't know what was more important to strengthen lung function or to strengthen immune system function.

01:01:36.000 And it turns out that immune system function might have been the problem in many of these cases.

01:01:40.000 The immune system overcompensating.

01:01:42.000 In severe cases, the virus directly attacks cells lining the patient's airways and lungs.

01:01:45.000 The infection can also prompt an overwhelming immune response that is just as harmful.

01:01:49.000 The drug appears to reduce inflammation caused by the immune system protecting the tissues.

01:01:53.000 In this study, dexamethasone reduced deaths of patients on ventilators by one-third.

01:01:58.000 By one-third.

01:02:00.000 Which, by the way, would be like the overall death rate, because virtually everybody who died, or a lot of people who died, ended up on ventilators before dying.

01:02:05.000 By one-third.

01:02:05.000 That is a major, major downgrade.

01:02:08.000 Deaths of patients on oxygen, by one-fifth.

01:02:11.000 Which, again, makes sense, because most patients who are on oxygen don't end up dying.

01:02:14.000 Right?

01:02:15.000 Once you end up on a ventilator, there is a good shot you are dead.

01:02:17.000 Of COVID-19.

01:02:18.000 But, if you can reduce that by one-third, then you're talking about a reduction in overall death rate that is extraordinary.

01:02:24.000 This is really, really good news.

01:02:26.000 And, by the way, If this does cut deaths, I mean, this is Dr. Atul Gawande, right?

01:02:32.000 He was not on the right.

01:02:32.000 Surgeon and author.

01:02:33.000 He wrote on Twitter.

01:02:35.000 He said, it would be great news if this really does cut deaths by one third in ventilated patients with COVID-19.

01:02:40.000 It would be great news.

01:02:42.000 I mean, you were talking about then moving this thing down closer, not quite to, but closer to the deadliness level of the flu, which would be really, really important.

01:02:51.000 Why is that not the big news today?

01:02:53.000 Why is the big news that if you go out to a restaurant, you stay six feet away from somebody, you're going to die?

01:02:57.000 There is no overwhelming of the hospital system that is going on in the United States right now.

01:03:00.000 There's increased testing.

01:03:01.000 The increased testing is partially responsible for the detection of increased COVID activity.

01:03:05.000 The extension of hospitalization rates is not radical.

01:03:10.000 We are not seeing the system being overwhelmed.

01:03:12.000 That doesn't mean you should stop being careful.

01:03:13.000 You should continue to be careful.

01:03:14.000 Everyone should continue to be careful.

01:03:16.000 But the notion that we are on the verge of a second wave spike and everybody's going to die is just not borne out by the evidence.

01:03:20.000 OK, time for a quick thing that I like.

01:03:22.000 So if you haven't checked out the verdicts with Ted Cruz, with my friend, Senator Ted Cruz, and my not friend, Michael Moulse, then you definitely should.

01:03:27.000 So Michael Moulse is the guest host with Senator Cruz, and they talk about all of the issues of the day.

01:03:34.000 They bring in people from the Trump administration, other members of the Senate to talk about what exactly is going on on Capitol Hill.

01:03:38.000 Frankly, I haven't seen anything that goes quite as deep into what exactly is going on behind the closed doors of Capitol Hill better than the verdicts with Ted Cruz.

01:03:45.000 Here's a little bit.

01:03:46.000 Something I've noticed just on these shows is you hear so much about how personal relationships and these sort of unplanned moments can really shift the path of policy in the country.

01:03:58.000 Well, it does.

01:03:59.000 But I think the other thing is the interesting thing.

01:04:01.000 So so Ted goes, come on, I'm going over to see the president.

01:04:05.000 You need to come with me.

01:04:06.000 We need to talk to him about Obamacare.

01:04:08.000 And I'm going, OK, well, you got it.

01:04:09.000 No, no, we're just going.

01:04:11.000 I mean, and so.

01:04:12.000 So you get this and you go, okay, we're going to drop in on the president of the United States and talk policy on a Saturday, by the way.

01:04:18.000 We literally Ubered over.

01:04:19.000 I mean, it was kind of, and you're sitting there going, it's a miracle Secret Service didn't shoot us.

01:04:24.000 And we're like, we're actually in Congress.

01:04:26.000 They're like, I don't know about that.

01:04:29.000 But, but it's all about.

01:04:30.000 One, relationships.

01:04:31.000 You're exactly right, Michael.

01:04:33.000 But the other part of that is about tenacity.

01:04:36.000 It's making sure you're tenacious about what you know is good for the American people.

01:04:41.000 And you're willing to fight that fight.

01:04:43.000 And Ted obviously has not only a career of doing that, Alrighty, so check it out.

01:04:51.000 The Verdict with Ted Cruz and Michael Knowles is there too.

01:04:54.000 So try to ignore the fact that Knowles is there and just enjoy the fact that this is real insider stuff from the people who are playing the game on Capitol Hill.

01:05:01.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 17, 2020

The Great Media Beclowning | Ep. 1033

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