The Ben Shapiro Show - The Wayback Machine | Ep. 734

00:00:00.000 Tucker Carlson gets knocked by media matters, Democrats re-embrace socialism, and the 2020 Democratic candidates race to the far left.

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00:01:21.000 Alright, well we begin with Media Matters doing what Media Matters does, being terrible people who spend all of their time digging up old comments by people they don't like.

00:01:37.000 Now, the way the media covers all of these Media Matters stories is they cover it as though suddenly audio was unearthed.

00:01:44.000 As the old material suddenly rose up out of the soil like a volcanic eruption and suddenly the material was made public.

00:01:51.000 So what you will see today is headlines about Tucker Carlson of Fox News in which the media report that old audio emerges.

00:01:59.000 It's a USA Today's headline.

00:02:01.000 ...is Tucker Carlson refuses to apologize amid uproar over past comments on extremely primitive women.

00:02:07.000 And then you've got in a headline from CNN.com, Tucker Carlson refuses to apologize for his misogynistic remarks.

00:02:14.000 And then you've got Market Watch, Tucker Carlson unapologetic after using C-word, hurling other insults at women.

00:02:19.000 In interview, he shrugs off as naughty.

00:02:22.000 Okay, all of this just randomly occurred.

00:02:24.000 You know, it's magical.

00:02:25.000 It's spontaneous.

00:02:26.000 And the outrage is very real.

00:02:28.000 Okay, it's not ginned up in any way.

00:02:30.000 It is very real.

00:02:31.000 It's a bunch of people who are walking around, and suddenly old audio from like 2007 just, boom!

00:02:36.000 Clocked them right in the head, and they were super offended, and now they have decided to hashtag boycott Tucker Carlson.

00:02:42.000 Okay, so let me go back to the beginning.

00:02:43.000 Here's what Media Matters is.

00:02:44.000 Media Matters was a Clinton-associated institution founded by David Brock, who is one of the slimiest people in the history of modern American politics.

00:02:53.000 And it was specifically designed to take right-wing hosts off the air.

00:02:56.000 Media Matters was specifically designed as an organization that was going to target right-wing hosts, the members of the quote-unquote vast right-wing conspiracy, and then destroy them.

00:03:04.000 And the way they were going to do this is they were going to dig up comments or find comments that they could either take out of context Or that they could spin up to levels of rage unforeseen by human eyes before, and then they were going to call up advertisers.

00:03:20.000 So they were going to militarize a small base of people to call up advertisers on right-wing shows and then convince those advertisers to pull their advertising lest there be blowback and boycotts.

00:03:31.000 So they did this to Rush Limbaugh.

00:03:33.000 Remember, they did this to Rush Limbaugh in the aftermath of his Cassandra Fluck comments.

00:03:36.000 You'll remember that they've tried to do this to Sean Hannity.

00:03:39.000 They've tried to do this to Laura Ingraham.

00:03:40.000 They've tried to do this to pretty much everybody on the right.

00:03:43.000 Media Matters makes a living going after the advertisers of everybody else, and they have this huge endowment from a variety of left-wing sources, including George Soros.

00:03:50.000 So they have a huge amount of money, and this means they can dedicate employees full-time to simply going back and digging up everything that people who are conservative have ever said, and then trying to use those things to club them over the head.

00:04:02.000 It's all bad faith. 0.91

00:04:03.000 It's all gross.

00:04:05.000 And the specific goal, I mean, they're not shy about this.

00:04:08.000 The specific goal is to knock people they disagree with off the air.

00:04:12.000 Now, this is actually a very easy business.

00:04:13.000 It really is.

00:04:14.000 I know, because a few years back, I ran an organization called Truth Revolt.

00:04:18.000 Truth Revolt was specifically and openly designed as a right-wing version of Media Matters.

00:04:22.000 We said so openly.

00:04:23.000 It was in Aspect of the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

00:04:25.000 And what Truth Revolt was designed to do was create mutually assured destruction.

00:04:29.000 So, for example, what we would do is every night we would watch Al Sharpton's show.

00:04:33.000 And every night we would watch Martin Bashir's show.

00:04:35.000 And every night we would watch Alec Baldwin's show.

00:04:37.000 Every Friday night.

00:04:38.000 And then we would call up advertisers.

00:04:41.000 We would have a hundred people.

00:04:42.000 That was all it took.

00:04:43.000 We'd have a hundred people and we would issue emails to those activists.

00:04:46.000 And we would tell those activists, call these advertisers and tell them to stop advertising on Martin Bashir when Martin Bashir says that somebody should excrete into sarah palin's mouth and then the advertisers would drop because advertisers are notoriously squirrelly when it comes to political when it comes to political advertising they don't want the blowback mostly advertisers want to be left alone mostly what advertisers want is they want to be able to advertise to their audiences in peace they advertise on a wide variety of shows every advertiser on my show for example advertises on left-wing shows as well

00:05:15.000 And that's good for the country.

00:05:16.000 It is good for the country that advertisers advertise on a wide variety of political shows.

00:05:21.000 But Media Matters wants to make it unpalatable for advertisers to advertise on any show that is not on MSNBC.

00:05:27.000 Which is why they are now digging up audio that was publicly available when Tucker Carlson was working for, wait for it, MSNBC.

00:05:35.000 And now they're using it to try to start boycotts against, wait for it, Fox News.

00:05:40.000 That's what Media Matters does.

00:05:42.000 You have to understand this agenda before you can understand why all of this outrage is ginned up, why all of this is fake, why an enormous amount of this outrage is simply created out of whole cloth by the left wing in order to target Tucker Carlson.

00:05:54.000 There is not one person hashtagging boycott Tucker Carlson today who's a regular watcher of Tucker Carlson's show.

00:06:00.000 Not one.

00:06:01.000 There's nobody going after Tucker Carlson today who is a Tucker Carlson fan and now is just shocked at the stuff he said to Bubba the Love Sponge between 2006 and 2011 because that's what all of this is.

00:06:11.000 The columnist, a researcher at Media Matters who has the worst job in America, Madeline Peltz, she says she spent a hundred hours listening to Tucker's old episodes with Bubba the Love Sponge, a shock jock radio program between 2006 and 2011.

00:06:25.000 Now you may be asking, Was any of that old audio offensive at the time?

00:06:30.000 Did people really care at the time?

00:06:31.000 And the answer was no.

00:06:33.000 Bubba the Love Sponge is actually a pretty popular radio show, and it was certainly popular back when Tucker was on it.

00:06:38.000 And no one seemed to have any real problem with the stuff Tucker was saying because they understood.

00:06:43.000 This is a shock jock radio program where the entire purpose of the show is to shock people.

00:06:48.000 Bubba the Love Sponge was basically a softer version, slightly, of Howard Stern.

00:06:53.000 So this is the same thing as when the media tried to dig up old appearances of Donald Trump on Howard Stern and then use that to bash Donald Trump.

00:06:59.000 As though appearing on Howard Stern is what people really think.

00:07:03.000 Or as though appearing on Bubba the Love Sponge is Tucker's most thought out political commentary.

00:07:07.000 So Media Matters spends hundreds of hours, hundreds of man hours, digging through the archives to try and find stuff that they can go after Tucker for.

00:07:14.000 And honestly, this is how the internet works now.

00:07:17.000 I experience it pretty much every day myself, where folks on the left will go back into my Twitter archive and try to find something, take it out of context, find a bad old tweet that I don't agree with anymore, and then bring it up ten years later, and then say, oh, well, you know, you're a bad guy because you tweeted this ten years ago.

00:07:30.000 You know what I don't have?

00:07:31.000 A time machine.

00:07:32.000 You know what you do have on the internet is a Wayback Machine.

00:07:35.000 The Wayback Machine allows you to see pretty much anything anyone has ever said.

00:07:38.000 And what that means is that you're probably going to find some stuff you don't like.

00:07:42.000 But here's the deal.

00:07:43.000 There is a statute of limitations when it comes to political opinions.

00:07:47.000 If you have moved forward from those opinions, or if you are asked about those opinions and you say, yeah, I don't believe that anymore.

00:07:53.000 That's fair.

00:07:55.000 Because you know what you can't do, realistically speaking?

00:07:58.000 Go back in time.

00:07:59.000 Tucker can't go back in time to 2007 and say to Tucker in 2007 on Bubba the Love Sponge, you know, Tucker.

00:08:06.000 Yes, Tucker.

00:08:07.000 You know what, Tucker?

00:08:08.000 I think it's a bad idea to say that.

00:08:09.000 All right, Tucker.

00:08:09.000 I agree.

00:08:10.000 That's not something we can do in real life.

00:08:13.000 Here's what you can do in real life.

00:08:15.000 Ask Tucker about those comments.

00:08:16.000 You can say, you know, Tucker, you said this back in 2007.

00:08:18.000 Is that something with which you agree?

00:08:21.000 And then you might get a good faith response from Tucker Carlson.

00:08:23.000 You can always tell the folks who are bad faith in politics by their refusal to hear any response to their own old stuff.

00:08:32.000 If you go to somebody and you say, like Bernie Sanders, for example, you say to him, you know, back in the 1980s, you defended Cuba.

00:08:37.000 What's your take on that?

00:08:39.000 Then you have to listen to his answer. 1.00

00:08:41.000 Maybe he says he was ignorant. 0.95

00:08:42.000 Maybe he says that he disagrees with what he said then. 0.97

00:08:45.000 Whatever it is.

00:08:46.000 The reason that old audio of Bernie Sanders is still useful is because Bernie still believes all the things that he believed back in the 1980s.

00:08:53.000 The same thing, I'm sure, is not true of the stuff that Tucker Carlson said on Bubba the Love Sponge.

00:08:58.000 And listen, this is not about me defending Tucker, per se.

00:09:00.000 I defended James Gunn.

00:09:01.000 James Gunn was a director.

00:09:03.000 You'll remember him from Guardians of the Galaxy.

00:09:06.000 And James Gunn had some bad old tweets.

00:09:09.000 Some bad old tweets in which he made pedophilia jokes.

00:09:12.000 And those were taken out of context in bad faith to try and suggest that James Gunn was actually pro-pedophilia or was a pedophile himself because he was making pedophilia jokes.

00:09:21.000 Because just like Tucker, he was a shock jock back then and he was doing shock jocky things.

00:09:26.000 Tucker was on with the shock jock.

00:09:27.000 James Gunn was sort of a shock filmmaker and that's what he did.

00:09:31.000 And I said at the time, this is old stuff.

00:09:33.000 Everybody knew about it at the time.

00:09:35.000 That's not what he does now.

00:09:37.000 Why are we doing this?

00:09:38.000 Why do we have to manufacture outrage?

00:09:39.000 There are enough things to be outraged over in modern American life, you don't actually have to go back 15 years to the stuff that people said back on Twitter, and then get angry about it. 0.78

00:09:49.000 And we see this in its most extreme form with a couple of weeks ago, people going after the old comments from 1971 of John Wayne, and getting outraged over crap that John Wayne said.

00:09:58.000 John Wayne's been dead for 50 years, and people are still getting angry at the stuff he's saying.

00:10:02.000 Why?

00:10:03.000 Because it connects with a political agenda, which is to polarize us in the here and now.

00:10:07.000 So here is what Media Matters found.

00:10:09.000 So they went back and they found some stuff that Tucker said on Bubba the Love Sponge, in which he diminished the actions of Warren Jeffs, who was then on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted Fugitives list for involving arranged illegal marriages between adults and underage girls.

00:10:22.000 He talked about sex and young girls, and he defended statutory rape.

00:10:27.000 Now, some of this, I'm sure, was him just being shocky because he was on with Bubba the Love Sponge.

00:10:31.000 And all of it was public at the time.

00:10:32.000 It wasn't like he was saying this behind closed doors and suddenly it emerged.

00:10:36.000 Bubba the Love Sponge was widely listened to.

00:10:38.000 Nobody seemed to have a problem with it then because he was on MSNBC.

00:10:41.000 Now, does that mean his comments are unobjectionable?

00:10:43.000 No, if he actually believes that, this stuff is egregious.

00:10:46.000 But the question is, do you actually think that Tucker believes this stuff now?

00:10:51.000 Do you think that Tucker actually believed that stuff then, or was he just appearing on a shock jock radio show and saying shock jock things because he was on with a shock jock?

00:10:59.000 Now, Media Matters knows better than this, obviously. 0.98

00:11:01.000 This is all bad faith garbage, and everybody knows it's bad faith garbage. 1.00

00:11:05.000 So Tucker has now responded to all of this. 0.99

00:11:08.000 He put out a little statement.

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00:12:18.000 Alrighty, so Tucker has fired back at Media Matters, and he did so in what is the most appropriate way.

00:12:24.000 He tweeted out this statement.

00:12:25.000 That's refreshing.

00:12:26.000 Good for Tucker.

00:12:26.000 Honestly, good for Tucker, because here's the way this usually works.

00:12:28.000 more than a decade ago, rather than express the usual ritual contrition.

00:12:31.000 How about this?

00:12:32.000 I'm on television every weeknight live for an hour.

00:12:34.000 If you want to know what I think, you can watch.

00:12:36.000 Anyone who disagrees with my views is welcome to come on and explain why.

00:12:39.000 That's refreshing.

00:12:40.000 Good for Tucker.

00:12:42.000 Honestly, good for Tucker, because here's the way this usually works.

00:12:45.000 Media Matters targets somebody over a statement that is objectionable, but not career ending, or they dig up a piece of old audio that nobody cared about 20 years ago, but now we're all supposed to care about now.

00:12:57.000 And then the person is hit with a wave of advertiser boycotts, and then they express contrition for their comments.

00:13:01.000 And then the contrition is used as an excuse to pummel them further because it's an admission of guilt.

00:13:06.000 And then the person apologizes further, and they just sort of hope it goes away.

00:13:10.000 This is Media Matters MO.

00:13:12.000 This is what Media Matters do.

00:13:13.000 This is their favorite thing to do.

00:13:15.000 And they and their allies will do this based on comments that forget about objectionable like Tucker's comments from 2007.

00:13:20.000 They'll do it based on unobjectionable content.

00:13:23.000 They tried to do this to me early this year when I made some comments about why pro-life people Would not be in favor of abortion across the board, even if you knew that a person was going to commit crimes in the future.

00:13:34.000 And it made a reference to pro-life people not killing Hitler in the womb because the idea was that pro-life people don't believe that you should be able to kill people based on the possibility of them committing future crime.

00:13:43.000 That was specifically directed at an argument in the book for economics.

00:13:47.000 Folks on the left took it out of context and then they tried to call our advertisers and manufacture outrage.

00:13:51.000 This is what folks on the left do. 0.93

00:13:53.000 So good for Tucker Carlson for not playing that game. 0.95

00:13:56.000 Good for Tucker Carlson for saying, listen, I'm not going to pretend that my contrition is going to somehow alleviate your crazy.

00:14:03.000 It's not going to.

00:14:04.000 If you want to ask me about it today, come, ask me about it today. 0.99

00:14:07.000 But if you're going to dig up old stuff that I said 10 years ago and then use it as an excuse to just try and destroy me as a human being, try to destroy my livelihood, you can go to hell. 0.86

00:14:16.000 Honestly, good for Tucker, because this is what the response should be from everyone. 0.89

00:14:19.000 You know what the response should be from everyone when somebody digs up a piece of 10-year-old audio?

00:14:23.000 Honestly?

00:14:24.000 The response should be, was it public?

00:14:27.000 If it was, then the response should be, am I supposed to be deeply disturbed by it now?

00:14:32.000 Maybe I'll go ask this person about that audio.

00:14:34.000 And then if the person doubles down on a piece of bad audio, if the person doubles down suggests that they were right about a behavior, then that's a here and now problem.

00:14:43.000 So I'll explain in just a second what this means for people who are not Tucker Carlson, like for example Joy Reid over at MSNBC.

00:14:48.000 So Joy Reid, host over at MSNBC, and Joy Reid has a long history of bad blog posts. 1.00

00:14:53.000 There are a bunch of homophobic blog posts and Anti-Semitic blog posts, apparently, back from 2004, 2003, going back 15 years ago.

00:15:02.000 And people were digging those up and using them against Joy Reid.

00:15:05.000 And my initial take on Joy Reid was exactly the same as it was on Tucker Carlson, which is, she shouldn't be fired. 0.88

00:15:10.000 She shouldn't lose advertisers.

00:15:12.000 If you're going to lose advertisers, you should lose advertisers based on stuff you say now, not stuff that you said back in history, because nobody has a time machine.

00:15:19.000 We all have a wayback machine, we can all see what people said 10 years ago, but none of us can go back and correct the things we said 10 years ago.

00:15:26.000 If we're given the opportunity to do so now, and we don't, that's a different story.

00:15:30.000 And that's where Joy Reid went wrong.

00:15:31.000 So Joy Reid was asked about all that stuff, and instead of her just saying, listen, I've grown, I've progressed, I don't believe those things anymore, I wish I'd never written them, which is the honest way to go about a conversation with any human being.

00:15:43.000 If she had done that, that's fine, right?

00:15:45.000 This is the way that we all deal with stuff that we've done in our past that we don't like.

00:15:48.000 When we have a fight with our spouse, Forget our spouse.

00:15:51.000 We have a fight with a friend or an acquaintance.

00:15:53.000 And we say, you know, I really didn't like what you did to me a year ago.

00:15:55.000 And the person says, you know what?

00:15:56.000 You're right.

00:15:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:15:57.000 That's the end of the story, is it not?

00:16:00.000 Now it's different if the person says, you know what?

00:16:02.000 I'm glad I did what I did a year ago. 0.99

00:16:04.000 I'm glad I smacked you in the head a year ago. 0.98

00:16:06.000 Good for me. 0.98

00:16:08.000 That's a sin in the here and now.

00:16:09.000 That's not a sin in the past.

00:16:10.000 You can't correct sins in the past.

00:16:12.000 All you can do is express atonement for them or say that you've changed and changed your mind.

00:16:16.000 That's all you can do.

00:16:18.000 If you double down on them, that's a sin in the here and now.

00:16:20.000 That's where Joy Reid went wrong because what Joy Reid did is she said, that wasn't me.

00:16:24.000 I was hacked.

00:16:25.000 I never made a mistake.

00:16:26.000 I've never made a mistake.

00:16:27.000 Now again, I've talked about this in a variety of contexts, this idea that we have now created a society where it is impossible to apologize for stuff that you've done in the past.

00:16:37.000 Where something arises from the past.

00:16:39.000 We talked about this in the context of Kevin Hart during the Oscars.

00:16:44.000 You tweeted something 10 years ago.

00:16:45.000 You did a comedy routine 10 years ago.

00:16:47.000 And people now bring this back up to try and wreck you.

00:16:50.000 And if you apologize, they say, aha, that's because you were guilty, which means you were bad.

00:16:55.000 And because you were bad, we're going to try and wreck you.

00:16:57.000 Or alternatively, you say, you know, I've changed.

00:16:59.000 They say, well, you don't get to change.

00:17:01.000 Sorry.

00:17:02.000 If you would really, if you didn't like that stuff you said, you should have preemptively come out and you should have apologized for it preemptively.

00:17:08.000 And that's the take of a lot of folks on the left.

00:17:10.000 Well, what that means is the only people you're going to get in politics or public life are people who are A, unrepentant, Or B, willing to preemptively, every time they change their mind, preemptively come out and say something about it and unburden themselves.

00:17:25.000 We talked about this in the context of Ralph Northam in Virginia.

00:17:29.000 I said about even Ralph Northam, a Democrat in Virginia with whom I heartily disagree on a variety of issues, including infanticide. 0.92

00:17:36.000 I said about Ralph Northam that if Ralph Northam had come out about his Facebook in 1980, his yearbook in 1985, the one where there was a guy in blackface and a guy in a KKK outfit, and said, that was ignorant and terrible of me.

00:17:46.000 It shouldn't have been on my Facebook page.

00:17:48.000 I feel terrible about it.

00:17:49.000 The reason I've not commented on it until now is because I feel guilty about it.

00:17:53.000 I wish people had forgotten.

00:17:54.000 Now that it's raised again, it's opened old wounds that I, that honestly I wish had been buried.

00:17:59.000 That's not been my life?

00:18:00.000 That would have been a good response to the situation.

00:18:03.000 Instead, he said that it wasn't his, and it somehow sneaked into his yearbook.

00:18:07.000 He gave the same answer as Joy Reid.

00:18:08.000 Well, that is a sin in the here and now.

00:18:10.000 That's not a sin 10 years ago, or 20 years ago, or 30 years ago anymore.

00:18:13.000 That's a sin in the here and now.

00:18:16.000 Here's the way these things should go, honestly.

00:18:18.000 Somebody brings up an old thing you said.

00:18:20.000 You either say, I agree with it, or I disagree with it.

00:18:23.000 And then you say, you know what?

00:18:23.000 Deal.

00:18:25.000 Deal. 0.99

00:18:25.000 If you're that offended by crap I did 15 years ago, take a hike. 0.99

00:18:30.000 And if I say it now, then you have a right to be offended. 0.93

00:18:33.000 But none of this 20 years later.

00:18:35.000 I'm going to go back and dig up something that you did and then get super offended by it now.

00:18:41.000 That's generally absurd because, once more, there are no time machines.

00:18:46.000 You don't get to wreck somebody based on stuff they said 20 years ago without even asking them whether they agree with it now or looking at whether they were joking or whether they were on a shock jock show or any of the rest of it.

00:18:57.000 Because let's be real, you're not actually outraged by this stuff.

00:19:00.000 The number of people who are actually outraged by Tucker Carlson's bad comments from 2007 is no one.

00:19:05.000 Everybody on the left And again, that doesn't mean the comments were outrageous.

00:19:10.000 I think if I had heard these comments in 2007, maybe I would have been outraged.

00:19:14.000 I didn't know about them.

00:19:15.000 But I'm not going to pretend to be outraged by something that Tucker Carlson said on Bubba the Love Sponge in 2007.

00:19:21.000 Sorry, I have better things to do with my life.

00:19:24.000 Now, if Tucker comes out today and starts defending Warren Jeffries, if Tucker comes out today and starts talking about how much he's in favor of 27-year-olds in arranged marriages with 16-year-olds, which is allegedly what he said, well, it's what he said on tape, with Warren Jeffs or whatever, about Warren Jeffs on Bubba the Love Sponge, if he says that today, then there's a reason to rip him up and down.

00:19:44.000 But there's no reason to rip him up and down based on old audio that he has not even given a chance to talk about or defend or disassociate himself from.

00:19:54.000 The reason this is dangerous is because it can be done with pretty much anybody.

00:19:57.000 Anybody who's been in public life for more than the last 30 seconds is going to have stuff on their record nobody likes.

00:20:03.000 And if we make it the rule that you can't advertise on any show where somebody has ever said anything you dislike, ever, there will be no more advertising on political radio or political television.

00:20:14.000 It will, in fact, circumscribe the capacity of people to bring their political opinions to the fore.

00:20:21.000 We'll be polarizing the public for no apparent reason?

00:20:23.000 Listen, if you don't like Tucker, you already don't like Tucker.

00:20:26.000 How many people additionally don't like Tucker today because of stuff that Tucker said 15 years ago, or 10 years ago, or whatever it is?

00:20:32.000 The answer is zero.

00:20:33.000 Everybody already had an opinion.

00:20:36.000 All that faux outrage is, is faux.

00:20:39.000 And this is faux outrage for Media Matters, and they do it professionally.

00:20:42.000 Because their real goal here is not to make America better by cleansing it of its past sins.

00:20:47.000 That is not the goal here.

00:20:48.000 The goal here is to throw Tucker Carlson off the air.

00:20:51.000 If they don't like Tucker Carlson, they should watch his show tonight.

00:20:54.000 And if he says something they disagree with, then they should argue with him.

00:20:58.000 But I will also say, holding advertisers responsible for the 10-year-old sins of hosts is really gross.

00:21:05.000 You think that Joy Reid's advertisers approve of everything Joy Reid said in 2003?

00:21:10.000 They weren't advertising with her then.

00:21:12.000 And by the way, if you're going to boycott anybody for Tucker's old comments, boycott MSNBC.

00:21:15.000 They were hiring Tucker at the time.

00:21:17.000 He was working for MSNBC when he said this stuff.

00:21:19.000 Not for Fox News.

00:21:21.000 All right, meanwhile, the Democrats are full-scale embracing socialism.

00:21:24.000 I mean, they're enjoying their ride to the left.

00:21:26.000 We'll talk about that in just a second.

00:21:27.000 First, let's talk about Congress.

00:21:29.000 I've had it with them.

00:21:30.000 You've had it with them.

00:21:31.000 We've all had it with Congress.

00:21:33.000 Frankly, I've also had it with the executive branch.

00:21:34.000 I'll be honest with you.

00:21:35.000 I've had it with the vast majority of the federal government at this point because they've completely overrun the boundaries that were drawn for them in the Constitution of the United States.

00:21:43.000 Those beautiful checks and balances that were created by the Founding Fathers to limit the power of the federal government, they've been completely overthrown.

00:21:49.000 And that's why one of the ways that we can fight back is to use a convention of states I'm a big believer in calling a convention of states where we the people can propose amendments.

00:21:58.000 Amendments like, for example, reestablishing the checks and balances between Congress and the presidency, getting rid of executive branch agencies, ensuring that legislation passed by Congress is understandable and on a single issue.

00:22:09.000 No more omnibus packages.

00:22:10.000 There's lots of stuff we could do with some constitutional amendments.

00:22:14.000 Calling a Convention of States, however, is the only way to make that happen.

00:22:16.000 There are already 3.8 million people with us on this.

00:22:19.000 There are more every day.

00:22:19.000 So join me and my friend Mark Meckler.

00:22:21.000 Go to conventionofstates.com slash ben and sign the petition today.

00:22:25.000 That is conventionofstates.com slash ben.

00:22:28.000 Go check it out right now.

00:22:30.000 The limitations of the Constitution have been overthrown.

00:22:32.000 There's a reason to re-establish them.

00:22:34.000 Go to conventionofstates.com slash ben to sign the petition today and volunteer and help out.

00:22:39.000 It's a great way to help restore the founding philosophy of the country by re-embracing the Constitution.

00:22:44.000 Alright, speaking of people who have not embraced the Constitution, the left has decided to full-scale embrace socialism, which is deeply exciting.

00:22:51.000 Bernie Sanders is correct.

00:22:52.000 He is, in my opinion, the clear frontrunner for the Democratic nomination at this point.

00:22:56.000 I know Joe Biden hasn't jumped in, but I think that the best day of Joe Biden's campaign will be the first day.

00:23:01.000 Bernie Sanders is making overt outreach plays toward the intersectional base.

00:23:05.000 I've been saying for a while, the Democratic Party is really splintered along one line, intersectionality versus socialism.

00:23:12.000 Now, they don't necessarily have to be in conflict, and this is where Bernie is going.

00:23:16.000 What he is trying to do is say that socialism ought to be applied first for people of minority status.

00:23:22.000 He believes that socialism overall is a solution for everyone of every race equally, but Bernie is now beginning to make sort of overtures toward the intersectional base.

00:23:32.000 He's trying to jump into the America's a racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic place, as opposed to America just hates poor people, which was his old line.

00:23:41.000 So Bernie is coming out and he's saying, listen, my radical ideas have now been embraced by the base of the party.

00:23:45.000 And this, of course, is exactly right.

00:23:47.000 Those ideas that we talked about here in Iowa four years ago, that seemed so radical at that time.

00:23:58.000 Well, today, virtually all of those ideas are supported by a majority of the American people.

00:24:07.000 And they are ideas that Democratic candidates from school board to presidential candidates are running on today.

00:24:25.000 Okay.

00:24:26.000 Okay, so, you know, he is right about this.

00:24:28.000 The fact is that because we live in a time where people are disconnected from the actual impacts of socialism, very few people in the United States have ever lived under socialism, and all of them are expatriates from socialist dictatorships, essentially.

00:24:41.000 It's very easy to re-embrace bad ideas because nobody ever sees the price tag.

00:24:44.000 One of the beautiful things about being Bernie Sanders, and being a socialist in general in the United States, is you get to point to programs in other countries and say, we ought to do that.

00:24:53.000 And then when people ask, how do you pay for that?

00:24:54.000 You go, it'll pay for itself!

00:24:56.000 Which is the same thing you hear in timeshare presentations, and it is not true.

00:25:00.000 And whenever somebody says, you know what?

00:25:02.000 Forget about the price tag, it's gonna pay for itself.

00:25:05.000 Check your wallet.

00:25:06.000 Because I'm sure it is gone.

00:25:08.000 And somebody is already buying stolen VCRs from the back of a truck with it.

00:25:12.000 That is the way socialism tends to work.

00:25:14.000 Well, it's not just Bernie Sanders embracing this stuff, it is the mayor of New York.

00:25:17.000 So, Bill de Blasio tweeted out over the weekend, brothers and sisters, There is plenty of money in this country.

00:25:23.000 There's plenty of money in this world.

00:25:25.000 It's just in the wrong hands.

00:25:27.000 Yes, I would like all the money to be in the hands of a man who has never done anything for his entire life, Bill de Blasio.

00:25:32.000 I also love the brothers and sisters.

00:25:34.000 Comraden!

00:25:35.000 Comrades!

00:25:37.000 If we just— We are this far from an omelet.

00:25:39.000 All we have to do is break a few eggs.

00:25:41.000 Gotta get rid of the kulaks. 1.00

00:25:43.000 They have all the money.

00:25:44.000 Once we take the money, it'll be all better.

00:25:47.000 By the way, worth noting, New York City is bankrupt.

00:25:50.000 So that's sad.

00:25:51.000 So his own city is essentially bankrupt at this point, and he's got nothing to say about that, except that he wants to take more money from rich people.

00:26:00.000 Which, of course, is not going to work.

00:26:04.000 Even New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has said, we can't raise taxes on the rich people anymore in this state.

00:26:09.000 They're all leaving and going to Florida.

00:26:12.000 The largest contingent of New Yorkers outside of New York is now living in Florida because everyone is leaving.

00:26:17.000 Including, by the way, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez's mom, who said she moved down to Florida because there was less property tax.

00:26:24.000 But Bill de Blasio is still trying to play this class warfare game where he is pushing for taking away wealth from some and giving the wealth to others.

00:26:32.000 Socialism is all fun and games until it's actually implemented.

00:26:36.000 When it is implemented, like in Venezuela, there's no electricity.

00:26:40.000 Caracas, Venezuela, is now in its fourth day of complete darkness.

00:26:44.000 Refrigeration has failed.

00:26:45.000 People are eating spoiled and rotten food.

00:26:48.000 Socialism, working wherever it's tried.

00:26:50.000 And don't get me Norway and Denmark, guys.

00:26:52.000 Those are capitalist countries with some redistributionist programs stacked on top.

00:26:56.000 If you're talking about socialism, you have to talk like Bill de Blasio, which means nationalization of industry and removal of money from those who make business to those who don't.

00:27:05.000 Well, one of the lead proponents of this nonsense is, of course, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, who says the same dumb stuff as Bernie Sanders, but is younger and more attractive, and snaps her fingers in a Z formation.

00:27:17.000 And so, that means she's cool, I guess. 0.95

00:27:18.000 I don't know what that means.

00:27:19.000 In any case, AOC says, if you do not have a job, she's speaking at South by Southwest, and she said, if you don't have a job, you're left to die under capitalism.

00:27:30.000 Socialism means not leaving people to die.

00:27:32.000 Which is weird, since socialism killed over 100 million people in the last century, and is killing a bunch of people in Venezuela right this instant.

00:27:39.000 But apparently, under AOC, if you don't have a job under capitalism, you are left to die.

00:27:43.000 We should not be haunted by the specter of being automated out of work, right?

00:27:50.000 We should be excited by that.

00:27:52.000 But the reason we're not excited by it is because we live in a society where if you don't have a job, you are left to die.

00:28:01.000 And that is, at its core, our problem.

00:28:06.000 Oh, that's a problem!

00:28:07.000 Oh, you're right.

00:28:08.000 She's the first person ever to discover that leaving people to die is bad.

00:28:12.000 Which is weird, since again, socialism routinely leaves people to die, so long as those people get in the way of the grand socialist vision.

00:28:18.000 Mass exterminations under socialism have not been rare, it turns out.

00:28:22.000 Dissidents are still in jail in Cuba.

00:28:25.000 People in Venezuela, as I mentioned, starving to death.

00:28:28.000 China eradicated some 40 million of its own citizens.

00:28:31.000 The Soviet Union routinely gulagged political opponents and also killed a bunch of people in the Ukraine in the 1930s.

00:28:37.000 So socialism basically has been a party.

00:28:39.000 The notion that socialism is just wonderful for human lives, that they are seeking to preserve every human life, and that if you don't have a job you're left to die under capitalism, it's just absurd.

00:28:48.000 First of all, capitalism has been responsible for more people rising from extreme poverty than any force in the history of humanity.

00:28:54.000 Look at world GDP since the implementation of free markets, and what you will see is a straight line up.

00:29:00.000 It's exponential growth in world GDP since the implementation of free markets.

00:29:05.000 When it came to top-down control of government, top-down control of markets via government, you don't even have to go back to the socialist past to see how much that has failed.

00:29:13.000 That was the rule, not the exception, in virtually all human societies up till about 1800.

00:29:18.000 And then, we started thinking, hey, wait, what if we left individuals to pursue their own economic decisions in peace?

00:29:25.000 And world GDP exploded.

00:29:28.000 It is also amazing to me, and truly astonishing, how folks on the left so often conflate Government action with kindness.

00:29:37.000 I mean, I don't know how much AOC gives in charity.

00:29:39.000 I do know that people who tend to vote socialist give less charity than people who tend to vote Republican, because Republicans tend to be religious.

00:29:45.000 And that means that we spend a lot of our money on charity.

00:29:47.000 We give tens of thousands of dollars, I mean, literally, per person, in many cases, to charity.

00:29:54.000 If you just look at the studies, people in red states give more charity than people in blue states.

00:29:58.000 People who are religious give more charity than people who are non-religious.

00:30:01.000 People who vote Republican give more charity than people who vote Democrat.

00:30:04.000 These are just well-established facts.

00:30:08.000 The conflation of government action with helping the poor is truly perverse.

00:30:14.000 The fact is that over the long span of history, including in modern history, the first place that religious people go when it comes to hard times is their religious community.

00:30:24.000 Under capitalism, capitalism does not bar you from being part of a social institution that helps pick up the slack.

00:30:30.000 Government grabbing all the resources and getting rid of the profit incentive, which is what AOC wants to do.

00:30:35.000 She doesn't just want to redistribute the gains. 1.00

00:30:37.000 She wants to get rid of the profit incentive entirely, as we'll see. 1.00

00:30:40.000 That generates enormous poverty.

00:30:43.000 That's not about helping the poor.

00:30:44.000 It's about dragging everybody through the mud, including the entire economy.

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00:34:27.000 So AOC, so fresh, so face.

00:34:35.000 She is a good representative of the fact that so many Democrats have now embraced socialism whole scale.

00:34:40.000 And her description of socialism versus capitalism is always telling.

00:34:43.000 Whenever you hear people, as I say, say, I would love this thing.

00:34:46.000 And the cost?

00:34:47.000 Irrelevant.

00:34:48.000 It'll pay for itself. 1.00

00:34:49.000 That's garbage. 1.00

00:34:49.000 And also, when people say, are you a socialist? 1.00

00:34:52.000 And people say, if by socialism, you mean unicorns in a meadow filled with gumdrops.

00:34:57.000 And you're like, no, that's not what I meant.

00:34:58.000 I meant nationalization of industry, abolition of the profit motive, and generalized poverty.

00:35:04.000 When they say, if by socialism you mean, and then say a lot of good things, they don't know what socialism is.

00:35:09.000 AOC doesn't actually know what socialism is because she's lived in a capitalist country her whole life.

00:35:14.000 I mean, it's so funny to me that she talks about people who lack privilege in American society.

00:35:19.000 She went to Boston University.

00:35:20.000 She got a degree in econ and learned zero things.

00:35:23.000 And then she bartended. 1.00

00:35:24.000 And at 29, she went straight to Congress.

00:35:27.000 Does that sound like a life where you lack privilege?

00:35:30.000 Where things are real rough for you?

00:35:32.000 How does she think things would have gone for her if she'd been living in Cuba or Venezuela or China or Vietnam?

00:35:37.000 Does she think things would have been lots better for her, you know, in socialist countries?

00:35:40.000 Anyway, AOC says capitalism is irredeemable. 1.00

00:35:43.000 This is maybe the most pathetic, stupid, ignorant statement of, I don't know, at least the last 48 hours because stupidity is running real high these days. 1.00

00:35:52.000 Here's AOC calling capitalism irredeemable. 1.00

00:35:54.000 You know, the system that has raised One that has raised virtually everyone on the globe from abject poverty.

00:36:00.000 That system, according to her, there's been an 80% decline in the world's worst poverty since 1980.

00:36:05.000 But according to AOC, capitalism is irredeemable.

00:36:10.000 Capitalism isn't, to me, it's an ideology of capital.

00:36:15.000 It puts capital, the most important thing is the concentration of capital and it means that we seek and prioritize profit and the accumulation of money above all else and we seek it at any human and environmental cost.

00:36:35.000 That is what that means.

00:36:36.000 And to me, that ideology is not sustainable and cannot be redeemed.

00:36:41.000 Okay, that is not... What is she even talking about?

00:36:43.000 That is not what capitalism suggests.

00:36:45.000 Capitalism does not suggest that profit by destroying other people is okay.

00:36:50.000 That's not what free markets are.

00:36:51.000 You don't get to violate the rights of other people.

00:36:54.000 For example, you know what's not capitalism? 0.90

00:36:56.000 Me and my friends voting to steal your money, kill you, and then use your money for what we want. 0.72

00:37:01.000 According to AOC's description of capitalism, that fits right in, right? 0.99

00:37:03.000 I'm maximizing my own personal profit at cost to you.

00:37:07.000 That's not what capitalism is.

00:37:08.000 Free markets are about the idea that you as an individual have innate value given to you by God, that I as an individual have innate value, and that in recognition of each other's innate value, we own our own labor and creativity, and that we can trade our labor to one another.

00:37:22.000 For additional benefit to ourselves and that we have a right to accrue profit based on our voluntary exchanges with other people.

00:37:30.000 That's what capitalism and free markets are.

00:37:32.000 When you mischaracterize capitalism and socialism, it's real easy to fall in love with socialism.

00:37:39.000 It's truly incredible.

00:37:41.000 And then it's hilarious.

00:37:41.000 She describes what she thinks capitalism is, and everything that she describes is actually an aspect of corporatism, of a perversion of free markets.

00:37:50.000 So she says, you know what's real bad about capitalism is that corporations have taken over our government.

00:37:55.000 Just as there's all this fear mongering that government is going to take over every corporation and government is going to take over every business or every form of production, we should be scared right now because corporations have taken over our government.

00:38:09.000 Okay, corporations have taken over our government.

00:38:18.000 Yay! 0.99

00:38:19.000 Okay, so her proposal is that corporations should not take over government.

00:38:23.000 I agree.

00:38:25.000 Hey, corporations should not take over government.

00:38:27.000 You know what that's an aspect of?

00:38:28.000 Corporatism.

00:38:29.000 Top-down government control.

00:38:31.000 When the government has too much power, corporations try to grasp at the government's power.

00:38:36.000 You know what also is not a solution?

00:38:37.000 Government taking over corporations.

00:38:39.000 In both cases, you're talking about small groups of people who are now controlling the entire system on behalf of themselves.

00:38:46.000 But she doesn't see this.

00:38:47.000 Because once again, it is easy to be a socialist when you never actually have to imbibe the cost.

00:38:52.000 When the cost has nothing to do with the actual proposals that you are making. 0.92

00:38:57.000 Now AOC's foolishness doesn't stop there.

00:38:58.000 And the reason we spend so much time on this is because AOC really is, in the same way that Donald Trump is the id of sort of populist nationalism, he says whatever comes to mind. 0.77

00:39:08.000 AOC is the id of the socialist push in the United States.

00:39:11.000 And that id has about as much brains as my two-year-old son sticking his finger repeatedly into the light socket and then declaring himself a light bulb. 0.99

00:39:21.000 This is really dumb stuff. 1.00

00:39:22.000 Okay, so let's continue. 0.98

00:39:23.000 AOC is talking here about how real capitalism is about corporate exploitation.

00:39:29.000 That is not what capitalism is about.

00:39:31.000 And then she suggests, you know what would solve all of this?

00:39:33.000 If we taxed corporation at 90% so people can sit around writing poetry.

00:39:37.000 Now this is something that I remember Nancy Pelosi suggested a while back.

00:39:41.000 She was talking about why healthcare should not be connected to having a job.

00:39:44.000 And she said that we wouldn't want people to have job lock.

00:39:47.000 We wouldn't want people to be locked into jobs, you know, where they have to provide services and goods to others at a price.

00:39:52.000 Instead, what we want is people who are able to fulfill their deepest aspirations, like finger painting or writing poetry.

00:39:58.000 Here is AOC saying the same thing.

00:39:59.000 Let's tax corporations at 90% so people can write poetry.

00:40:02.000 One thing she doesn't seem to understand. 0.95

00:40:04.000 Who's going to work for the corporation if the corporation makes no profit, thereby providing the pay for people to do useless crap like write poetry that she reads? 1.00

00:40:13.000 Bill Gates has talked about taxing robots at 90%.

00:40:17.000 And what that means, what he's really talking about is taxing corporations at 90%.

00:40:21.000 And we should be excited about automation because what it could potentially mean is more time educating ourselves, more time creating art, more time investing and investigating in the sciences, more time focused on invention, more time going to space, more time enjoying the world that we live in.

00:40:42.000 I'm sorry, we can stop.

00:40:44.000 What is she talking about?

00:40:46.000 More time going to space?

00:40:48.000 On what?

00:40:50.000 On what?

00:40:51.000 More time doing scientific inventions?

00:40:52.000 Right.

00:40:53.000 Because what we need is... The unemployed are typically where all the best inventions come from.

00:40:59.000 That's usually where it happens, right?

00:41:00.000 You just quit your job and then you go in your back room and you tinker around like you're on Wonder Lab from the 1990s on Nickelodeon with Bill Nye or something.

00:41:08.000 And then you, that's when you come up with the greatest inventions.

00:41:10.000 Greatest inventions are not made by people, you know, employed by universities or who are working for some sort of R&D department.

00:41:17.000 The greatest inventions are made by unemployed people in their basements. 1.00

00:41:20.000 Historically.

00:41:21.000 Like Dr. Frankenstein, for example.

00:41:23.000 Unemployed guy in his basement.

00:41:25.000 Made an awesome, you know, person out of different body parts.

00:41:28.000 Unemployed?

00:41:29.000 What if that guy had had to work?

00:41:31.000 Would he have ever made an animate monster?

00:41:34.000 No, he would not have.

00:41:35.000 And then would the world have been worse off?

00:41:37.000 You bet.

00:41:38.000 You bet.

00:41:38.000 I mean, what is she?

00:41:40.000 Going to space?

00:41:41.000 What, does she think people go home and they just build a rocket in their backyard? 0.89

00:41:45.000 You think Elon Musk just goes home and builds a rocket in his backyard?

00:41:48.000 Or does it take billions of dollars to build those programs?

00:41:51.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:41:53.000 I mean, legitimately, the insane ignorance of this human being, being touted as a genius, and she says, oh, let's tax corporations at 90%.

00:42:01.000 Okay, if we tax corporations at 90% of their profit margin, you think they're going to maintain the same employment base?

00:42:06.000 Do you really think they're not just going to fire people?

00:42:10.000 Or do you think that maybe they will organize in a different way without filing as an LLC, for example?

00:42:14.000 They'll just file as an individual.

00:42:16.000 And then you'll get conglomerations of individuals who all just divvy up the money as it comes in to avoid the legal ramifications of filing as a corporation. 1.00

00:42:23.000 Oh, the level of stupid. 1.00

00:42:25.000 Finally, she finishes up with her real proposal. 1.00

00:42:27.000 The real proposal of the socialists is that America is no good, very bad, terrible.

00:42:31.000 Alexander's horrible, no good, very bad day.

00:42:33.000 That is AOC's characterization of the United States. 1.00

00:42:36.000 America is garbage. 1.00

00:42:37.000 She actually says this. 1.00

00:42:38.000 America is garbage. 1.00

00:42:39.000 This beneficiary of the greatest, freest, most democratic system ever created by human minds This human being is suggesting that America is garbage as she sits there having been useless virtually her entire life, now being championed at South by Southwest. 1.00

00:42:55.000 She was more useful when she was bartending. 0.99

00:42:57.000 At least she was providing a good or service somebody wanted.

00:42:59.000 Now she's providing a good or service nobody wants at taxpayer expense.

00:43:03.000 I think all of these things sound radical compared to where we are, but where we are is not a good thing.

00:43:10.000 And this idea of like 10% better from garbage It shouldn't be what we settle for.

00:43:17.000 It feels like moderate is not a stance, it's just an attitude toward life.

00:43:29.000 Dream big, guys.

00:43:30.000 Dream big. 1.00

00:43:31.000 America's garbage. 1.00

00:43:33.000 We have full employment by economic statistics, but America's garbage. 1.00

00:43:37.000 She's sitting there at a conference for losers and getting paid for it, presumably, or her campaign is. 1.00

00:43:42.000 And she's sitting there in presumably a nice set of clothing, which is great. 0.93

00:43:47.000 Everybody should have nice clothing and a nice chair with a microphone. 0.78

00:43:51.000 Making Instagram videos with her instant pot that she got on Amazon, a capitalist corporation.

00:43:59.000 After taking Uber, a capitalist corporation.

00:44:02.000 Using sweet potatoes, provided by a capitalist corporation.

00:44:05.000 On a camera, provided by a capitalist corporation.

00:44:07.000 To people who are consuming it from their homes, which they paid for with money earned from a capitalist corporation. 1.00

00:44:13.000 But America's garbage, guys. 1.00

00:44:14.000 America's garbage. 1.00

00:44:15.000 Now, what's hilarious about this is you have to have not visited or learned or read a book or done... You know how sheltered you have to believe, have to be, to believe that America is garbage? 1.00

00:44:24.000 Truly sheltered. 0.99

00:44:25.000 You know how privileged you have to be to believe that America in 2019 is garbage? 0.98

00:44:30.000 You are the most privileged person in the history of humanity to be living in this time, in this place. 0.97

00:44:35.000 If people were dropped into America 2019 from 1800, they would literally think they had died and gone to heaven.

00:44:42.000 As of 1900, 1 in every 10 babies died in infancy.

00:44:47.000 As of 1850, the average life expectancy in Europe was 36.2 years.

00:44:52.000 The average life expectancy. 1.00

00:44:55.000 And she's talking about America's garbage. 1.00

00:44:56.000 Our average life expectancy is over 80. 0.99

00:45:00.000 No one is dying of starvation.

00:45:02.000 Obesity is more of an epidemic among the poor in the United States than starvation is, and it ain't close.

00:45:08.000 We have more of a problem of our poor people dying of heart attacks from being overweight than of dying from starvation. 0.99

00:45:16.000 Yet America is garbage? 0.88

00:45:17.000 The utter ingratitude of this perspective is truly astonishing, and the mischaracterization of free markets, and the attempt to paint socialism as some sort of boon for humanity's good side, as opposed to the collective simply trumping the individual, which is the root of socialism. 0.97

00:45:31.000 The root of socialism is that individuals don't have power over their labor, that individuals don't have power over their creativity, that The only way for us to ensure that human powers of flourishing can break free is by collectivizing everything and then redistributing it so that some of us can fingerpaint while others of us have a gun pointed to our head at the behest of the federal government.

00:45:51.000 If that sounds great to you, then by all means, join the socialist revolution of AOC and Bernie Sanders.

00:45:58.000 My goodness.

00:46:00.000 Alrighty, time for some stuff I like and then some stuff that I hate.

00:46:02.000 So, Things that I like.

00:46:04.000 So I was convinced by producer Austin that I should watch The Umbrella Academy with my wife over the weekend.

00:46:10.000 I was also convinced by my wife.

00:46:11.000 So we were trying to browse for something to watch over the weekend.

00:46:13.000 And my wife said, this kind of looks fun.

00:46:15.000 Why don't we try this?

00:46:15.000 And I said, well, you know, it's got Ellen Page.

00:46:18.000 I don't think she's much of an actress.

00:46:19.000 Plus, I don't like her as a person since she thinks Mike Pence is responsible for fake hate crimes.

00:46:23.000 My wife's like, you know what? 1.00

00:46:25.000 Don't be silly. 0.98

00:46:26.000 Just because you don't like an actress's Political speech doesn't mean that you shouldn't watch her show. 0.99

00:46:32.000 And I thought, you know what?

00:46:33.000 Good for my wife. 1.00

00:46:34.000 This is correct.

00:46:35.000 This is correct.

00:46:36.000 So we watched The Umbrella Academy, and it's great.

00:46:38.000 By the way, the best thing in it is the guy who plays Diego.

00:46:41.000 I can't remember his name.

00:46:42.000 He was also in a movie that I recommended last week with Jean-Claude Van Damme.

00:46:46.000 He's a terrific actor, actually.

00:46:48.000 The show is called The Umbrella Academy on Netflix.

00:46:50.000 It's a lot of fun, and it's really good, despite Ellen Page's inability to act.

00:46:56.000 In October 1989, 43 women around the world gave birth.

00:47:02.000 None of these women had been pregnant when the day first began.

00:47:06.000 How much do you want for it?

00:47:11.000 I have adopted six children.

00:47:13.000 Gifted with abilities far beyond the ordinary.

00:47:22.000 I give you The Umbrella Academy.

00:47:25.000 Does anyone wish to speak?

00:47:34.000 It was a monster.

00:47:37.000 Okay, so the show's actually pretty good, and it's pretty entertaining.

00:47:40.000 The actor I'm talking about is David Castagnata.

00:47:42.000 He's terrific.

00:47:43.000 I can't remember the name of the kid actor, also.

00:47:46.000 There's one who plays a kid, and he's really good.

00:47:48.000 So the show is fun.

00:47:49.000 It's kind of a riff on superhero genre stuff, and I've been enjoying it.

00:47:53.000 We're about three episodes in, and it's definitely enjoyable.

00:47:56.000 So go check out The Umbrella Academy if you are a Netflix person.

00:47:59.000 Okay, other things that I like. 0.94

00:48:01.000 So Alyssa Milano, speaking of actresses with silly political opinions. 1.00

00:48:04.000 She tweeted out, I'm trans. 0.92

00:48:06.000 I'm a person of color.

00:48:07.000 I'm an immigrant.

00:48:07.000 I'm a lesbian.

00:48:08.000 I'm a gay man.

00:48:09.000 I'm the disabled.

00:48:10.000 I'm everything.

00:48:10.000 And so are you, Kirk.

00:48:12.000 She was talking to a guy who asked if she was trans.

00:48:14.000 So why did she care about the issue?

00:48:15.000 Don't be afraid of what you don't know or understand.

00:48:17.000 No one wants to hurt you.

00:48:18.000 We are all just looking for our happily ever after.

00:48:20.000 Now what's hilarious about this is this was sort of the woke position like 35 seconds ago.

00:48:25.000 35 seconds ago, it was, I'm all of these people.

00:48:27.000 We're all the same, man.

00:48:28.000 You know, you're trans, and I'm not trans, but we're all the same.

00:48:31.000 Our inner humanity means that we're all the same.

00:48:33.000 Alyssa Milano got eaten alive by the left for this tweet. 1.00

00:48:36.000 She got ripped up and down by the left, saying, you're not any of those things. 0.70

00:48:40.000 You're not a lesbian. 1.00

00:48:41.000 You're not a person of color. 1.00

00:48:43.000 I mean, you are a person of color.

00:48:44.000 You're not an immigrant. 1.00

00:48:45.000 You're not trans. 1.00

00:48:46.000 You're not gay. 0.86

00:48:47.000 You're not disabled. 0.55

00:48:48.000 You're not any of those.

00:48:49.000 You can't even understand those experiences.

00:48:51.000 How dare you suggest that at our root lies a level of common humanity?

00:48:55.000 When the left eats the left, it's one of my favorite things in the world.

00:48:58.000 This sort of Marianne Williamson, Sarah McLaughlin, you know, emo, we're all the same underneath stuff that was the hot liberalism of 2005 is now not woke enough.

00:49:10.000 And so Alyssa Milano got destroyed for that tweet in which she was trying to suggest our common humanity. 1.00

00:49:17.000 Man, the left has gone off the rails.

00:49:19.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:49:25.000 So Ilhan Omar, you'll recall, is the awful anti-Semitic congressperson from Minnesota who has spent the last six weeks, eight weeks in Congress saying openly anti-Semitic things and then quasi-apologizing and then being defended by her Democratic colleagues.

00:49:37.000 Well, over the weekend, she said that she was in fact a victim.

00:49:39.000 Once more, she was a victim.

00:49:42.000 I know what hate looks like.

00:49:43.000 We experience it every single day.

00:49:46.000 I have people every single day on Fox News and everywhere posting that I am a threat to this country.

00:49:55.000 I know what it feels to be someone who is of faith that is vilified.

00:50:02.000 I know what it means to be of someone who is of ethnicity that is vilified.

00:50:07.000 I know what it means for people to just see me as a black person.

00:50:12.000 Okay, so this is her shtick. 0.97

00:50:16.000 Her shtick is not that people are angry at her because she's a vicious anti-Semite. 0.99

00:50:19.000 The reason that people are angry at her is because she is a black woman, she's from Somalia, and because she's Muslim. 0.99

00:50:24.000 Now, this is sheer nonsense.

00:50:26.000 When Ilhan Omar came to Congress She wanted to wear a hijab in Congress, and they had to change the rules in Congress because you're not supposed to wear head coverings in Congress. 0.68

00:50:34.000 And I actively applauded Ilhan Omar being able to wear a hijab in Congress.

00:50:38.000 As a person who wears a funny hat daily, I see no problem with anybody else wearing a hat for religious reasons or a head covering for religious reasons.

00:50:44.000 I think that is totally and utterly fine.

00:50:46.000 I think it is quite good that we have Muslims in Congress.

00:50:49.000 I mean, I don't really care so long as you hold the right principles.

00:50:52.000 The problem with Ilhan Omar is she doesn't hold any of the right principles.

00:50:54.000 She believes a lot of terrible things.

00:50:57.000 Okay, so with all that said, what she says is terrible.

00:51:00.000 And what the right does then, and the right criticizing her is correct.

00:51:06.000 The worst thing would be if somebody would come out and say that, for example, Ilhan Omar shouldn't be in Congress because she's Muslim and because she wears that head covering. 0.99

00:51:13.000 Like, that would be super dumb and would play directly into Ilhan Omar's misdirected sense of victimhood. 0.96

00:51:19.000 Hugh Jeanine Perrault from Saturday. 0.95

00:51:22.000 She's not getting this anti-Israel sentiment doctrine from the Democrat Party.

00:51:28.000 So if it's not rooted in the party, where is she getting it from?

00:51:35.000 Think about it.

00:51:37.000 Omar wears a hijab, which according to the Quran 33, colon 59, tells women to cover so they won't get molested. 0.93

00:51:47.000 Is her adherence to this Islamic doctrine indicative of her adherence to Sharia law, which in itself is antithetical to the United States Constitution?

00:51:59.000 Oh, no. 0.99

00:52:00.000 So, Janine Pirro, that's terrible crap. 0.99

00:52:02.000 Even Fox News came out and said, we didn't approve that monologue, which is always a bad sign. 1.00

00:52:06.000 That's so gross and silly and stupid and backwards. 1.00

00:52:11.000 No, wearing a hijab does not mean that you believe all sorts of evil, terrible things. 0.99

00:52:15.000 And the actual charge that Omar leveled at Jews, that Jews were suffering from dual loyalty to Israel, is now being leveled at Omar in that particular clip, with Janine Pirro basically saying, you wear a hijab, therefore you have dual loyalty to your Islamic principles and not to American principles.

00:52:31.000 By the way, this is the same charge of dual loyalty that was originally leveled at Catholics in the United States.

00:52:36.000 People saying you're loyal to Rome and to the Pope instead of to the United States.

00:52:39.000 It's sheer nonsense.

00:52:40.000 You have to show the actual conflict between the principle and American principles.

00:52:43.000 You can't just point to somebody's funny hat and then say, well, that because of that person's funny hat, they don't believe in America.

00:52:49.000 If somebody did that about my yarmulke, it would be anti-semitism.

00:52:51.000 If somebody does it about Ilhan Omar's hijab, that's Islamophobia. 0.98

00:52:55.000 It's silly. 0.99

00:52:56.000 It's not just silly, it's nasty and wrong. 0.97

00:52:59.000 So, Jeanine Pirro has already quasi-apologized for it, as well she should. 0.94

00:53:03.000 I will recognize here that virtually everyone online, I saw zero defenders, pretty much zero defenders of Jeanine Pirro over this comment, whereas the entire Democratic Party infrastructure came forward to defend Ilhan Omar over being a rabid anti-Semite.

00:53:16.000 So there's that.

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