The Ben Shapiro Show - October 14, 2026


Watch These Democrats Flip-Flop Before the Midterms

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Ben Shapiro
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Abdul El-Sayed Adam Smith Abdul El Sayed Harrison Faulkner James Tallarico Casey Musgraves Jordan Dominic Susan Collins Donald Trump Troy Jackson Josh Shapiro Mike Rogers Megan Kelly
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00:00:00.000 Given the fact that the radical left has decided to fellow travel with all of this, and the fact that Americans really don't like it very much, Democrats have decided that it is necessary to basically lie about their own positions.
00:00:12.000 And so I want to take a moment to just go through what various Democrats have said in the past versus what they are now saying.
00:00:18.000 And here's my view on switching your opinion.
00:00:21.000 You can switch your opinion.
00:00:21.000 It's a free country.
00:00:23.000 I don't believe that you switched your opinion and you're not lying unless you can explain why your opinion switched.
00:00:28.000 If you can explain why you were wrong before, but you're right now, then I will believe you.
00:00:32.000 Otherwise, I just think you're dissembling.
00:00:34.000 I think that you're lying.
00:00:35.000 I think that you're doing a form of political taquilla where you lie in order to achieve some sort of political advantage.
00:00:40.000 So head on over to Michigan.
00:00:42.000 Mike Rogers, who's the Republican in that race, he points out correctly with Harris Faulkner on Fox that Abdul El Sayed has flipped on half of his major policy proposals.
00:00:51.000 Well, I think this is his ideology.
00:00:53.000 I mean, he's flip flopped on almost everything.
00:00:55.000 You brought that up in the early conversation.
00:00:57.000 He's changed as much as he can to throw at the game to try to get your vote.
00:01:02.000 He's doing.
00:01:03.000 And that, of course, is exactly right.
00:01:04.000 Here, for example, is Abdul El Sayed.
00:01:06.000 Floating defunding the police like many, many, many times.
00:01:09.000 I believe that we do need to defund the police insofar as defunding the police is disinvesting in the means of incarcerating someone or killing them on the streets.
00:01:19.000 My experience the police have never been out there to help me, right?
00:01:23.000 Right.
00:01:23.000 Has never been my experience.
00:01:24.000 And so when I see cops, when I get pulled over to this day, right, my heart races.
00:01:29.000 Do police really need to use guns?
00:01:33.000 Do we need as much of a police force?
00:01:36.000 And I think that has to be the way we go.
00:01:38.000 And that means both.
00:01:40.000 Investing more in these services and it also means investing less in police.
00:01:46.000 Okay, so that's what he said, and now he's saying we must fund public safety.
00:01:50.000 So, was he lying then or is he lying now?
00:01:51.000 The answer is he's lying now, obviously.
00:01:54.000 But I want to talk a little bit about what we really want when we talk about public safety.
00:01:58.000 What we really want is everybody to get home safe at night, and that means that we've got to fund all of the things we need.
00:02:09.000 That's right, for some problems, that is going to be a person with a gun.
00:02:14.000 And when you ask that person to come, you want that person to be somebody from the community who sees themselves as part of the community.
00:02:21.000 And the problem is, it's very difficult to actually recruit or retain anybody from in the community.
00:02:26.000 So that means we've got to fund recruitment, retention, and retirement so that we can actually get people from in the community.
00:02:33.000 Oh, we need more funding.
00:02:34.000 You see, he was just mistaken before.
00:02:36.000 He said defund the police, he meant refund the police.
00:02:38.000 That's what he meant.
00:02:39.000 Or he's lying.
00:02:39.000 Or he's lying because this is what he does.
00:02:41.000 How about capitalism?
00:02:42.000 Well, now he claims he's a capitalist.
00:02:44.000 But of course, he's not a capitalist.
00:02:45.000 He despises capitalism, which is why he wants Medicare for all and all this nonsense.
00:02:49.000 Forgive the obvious question, but I know the answer, but I'm going to ask it anyway.
00:02:53.000 Are you a socialist?
00:02:54.000 I'm not.
00:02:55.000 I'm a capitalist who just understands capitalism.
00:02:57.000 No, look, the term capitalism was coined by a guy named Adam Smith.
00:03:03.000 And Adam Smith said there is no market without morals.
00:03:05.000 He also said that the biggest danger to capitalism was not government regulation, it was monopoly.
00:03:10.000 And you think about all the stuff you've got to buy, right?
00:03:12.000 Chances are almost everybody who's listening has got a phone in their pocket.
00:03:15.000 That phone's probably made by one of two manufacturers.
00:03:17.000 Got one of three carriers.
00:03:18.000 Let's say instead of calling people, you decide you go visit grandma in another state.
00:03:22.000 You're probably flying on one of three carriers, on one of two kinds of planes, Boeing or Airbus.
00:03:27.000 We've got monopolies and oligopolies up and down our economy.
00:03:30.000 It is anti capitalist.
00:03:32.000 Capitalism is just using supply and demand to allocate where scarce resources ought to go.
00:03:37.000 I believe in that, but I don't believe that it was intended to allow huge corporations to dominate any given market.
00:03:44.000 So, first of all, he happens to be wrong.
00:03:45.000 Adam Smith literally never used the term capitalist because it didn't exist at his time.
00:03:49.000 It took about 50.
00:03:50.000 50, 60, 70 years after the Wealth of Nations, for people to start using that term as a way of critiquing free markets.
00:03:56.000 But the reality is that what Abdullah Syed says he doesn't want monopoly.
00:03:58.000 He just wants the government to own everything.
00:04:00.000 So here he was saying that he wants that the public should own AI.
00:04:04.000 Are you in favor of public ownership models like the one Bernie introduced?
00:04:08.000 So I want to actually take it a step further.
00:04:11.000 I agree that we need public ownership, but I also agree that we need some system of public control.
00:04:16.000 Like, what is the point of democracy if it's not to protect us from existential risk?
00:04:20.000 Again, this is the game.
00:04:22.000 The game is just lying.
00:04:23.000 Abdullah Syed, he'll go out there and he'll say, the only thing he cares about is domestic policy.
00:04:27.000 And you'll hear his erstwhile defenders.
00:04:28.000 Who we'll get to in a minute, the Tucker Carlson's and Megyn Kelly's.
00:04:31.000 What he really wants is to talk about domestic policy.
00:04:33.000 It's just nonsense. 0.85
00:04:34.000 It's nonsense. 0.79
00:04:34.000 He spends 80% of his time on the campaign trail, particularly in Dearborn, talking about how much he hates Western influence in the Middle East and also Israel. 0.79
00:04:42.000 Well, here he was in his debate, lying and saying what he's really interested in is gas and groceries and healthcare.
00:04:49.000 Look, I told you what this debate was going to be him pointing at me and saying all kinds of foreign names or him talking about himself.
00:04:56.000 And I told you, I'm interested in you.
00:04:59.000 I understand that gas is too expensive, groceries aren't affordable.
00:05:02.000 I understand that it's Really hard to see a doctor.
00:05:04.000 And I want to solve that.
00:05:06.000 And the reason we haven't is because we've got corporate politicians who are going to do the bidding of people like Donald Trump.
00:05:11.000 The war in Iran, the tariff war, all the money he's taken from pharma.
00:05:14.000 Ask yourself if that's helped you.
00:05:16.000 I believe in money out of politics, money in your pocket, Medicare for all.
00:05:20.000 He doesn't believe in money out of politics. 0.79
00:05:22.000 He's happy to take money from his father in law, who is like a Muslim Brotherhood fellow traveler. 0.52
00:05:26.000 He himself is a Muslim Brotherhood fellow traveler.
00:05:28.000 His own staffers say it's a lie.
00:05:30.000 According to the Midwesterner, El Sayed's former staffer, Jordan Dominic, after seeing El Sayed's clip denying Muslim Brotherhood connections, said, For me, there was only ever smoke.
00:05:38.000 Now, however, I think I've seen enough to say there's fire.
00:05:40.000 Yes, I believe he was anti Semitic based on comments.
00:05:43.000 I learned he was largely in alliance with leftists in regards to Islamist organizations that make up the axis of resistance.
00:05:49.000 It's especially troubling knowing that despite no foreign policy experience, he really wants a seat on the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, which is totally insane. 0.72
00:05:55.000 So, again, Abdul El Sayed, if you're going to be a commie, Americans don't like this stuff. 0.60
00:05:59.000 So you have to just lie.
00:06:00.000 It's not just El Sayed who's dissembling.
00:06:02.000 It is also, of course, James Tallarico.
00:06:04.000 When he's not campaigning with Casey Musgraves, he's just lying full time.
00:06:07.000 So go back a few years, and here he was supporting an assault weapons ban.
00:06:11.000 In 2020, on video, you said there should be an assault weapons ban, large magazine ban, and that God requires us to do more than our thoughts and prayers.
00:06:19.000 Yes.
00:06:19.000 If there was an assault weapons ban or a large capacity magazine ban in the Senate, would you vote for it?
00:06:23.000 Depending on the details of the legislation, yes.
00:06:26.000 And I think so.
00:06:27.000 So the assault weapons ban is still on the table?
00:06:28.000 Absolutely.
00:06:29.000 It's on the table.
00:06:30.000 Five seconds later, he was asked about it.
00:06:33.000 He said, no, no, I love the Second Amendment.
00:06:34.000 I'm a believer in the Second Amendment.
00:06:36.000 I don't pick and choose between the Bill of Rights.
00:06:39.000 I believe in the Second Amendment just as much as I believe in the First.
00:06:43.000 We have a right to bear arms to protect ourselves, our families.
00:06:46.000 We have a right to own weapons for sport or for hunting.
00:06:50.000 But, like any freedom in the Bill of Rights, it's not absolute.
00:06:55.000 Again, perfectly fine with full scale Second Amendment legislation, but pretends he likes the Second Amendment. 1.00
00:07:01.000 The transing of the kids, he's completely flipped. 0.78
00:07:04.000 So, he said that the way he fought for the trans kids in the legislature, that's what he's going to do in the Senate.
00:07:09.000 The way I fought for trans kids in the legislature is how I will fight for the U.S. Senate.
00:07:15.000 And my position hasn't changed.
00:07:16.000 I still think these should be local decisions, sport by sport, athlete by athlete.
00:07:21.000 And I think I have the most inclusive policy of any candidate who's running.
00:07:25.000 I know things are getting clipped and stuff, but my views, my position hasn't changed.
00:07:31.000 And now, of course, he has reversed himself with regard to a ban on trans surgeries for minors.
00:07:36.000 You can confidently say there are two sexes a man and a woman.
00:07:39.000 Absolutely.
00:07:40.000 Speaking of gender, would you vote in favor of a national ban for transgender surgeries when it comes to minors?
00:07:48.000 Absolutely.
00:07:49.000 And in fact, in the legislature, I voted for an amendment that would have restricted the bill in question to a ban on surgeries for minors.
00:07:58.000 Okay, again, he's just flip flopping all over the place because you've got to hide what you actually want to do.
00:08:03.000 Troy Jackson in Maine doing the same exact thing.
00:08:06.000 So he actually voted pro life.
00:08:08.000 He got a perfect score in 2003 from Maine Right to Life and another perfect score in 2010.
00:08:13.000 In 2011, he was the only Democrat in the entire Maine Senate who voted for a fetal homicide bill.
00:08:18.000 Now he's flipping actually in the progressive direction and pretending.
00:08:20.000 That he is in favor of progressive abortion law.
00:08:24.000 Here in Maine, you know, I sponsored, co sponsored, you know, one of the most progressive abortion access bills in the country while the rest of the country was going the wrong way.
00:08:34.000 Here in Maine, we've been going the other way.
00:08:36.000 I supported making sure that low income women had access to abortion care. 0.98
00:08:41.000 Well, during his campaign, gotta say, he is a weirdo and a very obvious weirdo. 0.94
00:08:48.000 He did close his debate with Senator Susan Collins by burping. 0.86
00:08:52.000 This is, it didn't go great.
00:08:55.000 I have proven time and time again that I deliver for the state of Maine.
00:09:02.000 Uh oh.
00:09:04.000 Oh no.
00:09:05.000 Well, according to our sponsors and friends over at CalShee, again, Democrats still hold an advantage in the Senate, according to the CalShee markets.
00:09:10.000 62% of people believe the Democrats will take the Senate, versus only 38% who think the opposite.
00:09:16.000 Again, I think that's an overestimate of how Democrats are going to perform.
00:09:19.000 But I also would like for all the people who oppose the Democrats to get out there and vote, because many of them are just lying about what it is they believe.
00:09:25.000 When they say what it is they believe, by the way, things get worse.
00:09:27.000 Josh Shapiro.
00:09:28.000 Widely perceived to be a prospective presidential candidate for Democrats, not going to happen. 1.00
00:09:33.000 He's too Jewish.
00:09:35.000 He put out a tweet yesterday saying, as long as I'm governor, Pennsylvania will never be a right to work state. 1.00
00:09:38.000 Well, we should point out at this point that making sure that unionization is your key priority raises costs in your state.
00:09:46.000 This here is a graph of standard of living.
00:09:49.000 And what you will notice is that Democratic states, it means high prices.
00:09:55.000 That is what this shows.
00:09:57.000 So, again, you can vote for Democrats, but you do so at your own peril.
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