The Charlie Kirk Show - A New Year, A New Vision — Freedom Square LIVE from Dream City Church

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, happy Sunday.

00:00:01.000 This is our conversation from Turning Point USA that we had at Dream City Church with Luke Barnett, a great friend of mine.

00:00:09.000 At Turning Point USA, many of you know, we are working to educate the entire citizenry, but especially young people and also people of faith around the principles of liberty, American citizenship, biblical citizenship, freedom, things that really matter.

00:00:24.000 We had a great time at Dream City.

00:00:25.000 And if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.

00:00:30.000 That's tpusa.com.

00:00:32.000 Also, Dream City is having a very exciting conference coming up, February 7th, 8th, and 9th, for church leaders and pastors.

00:00:40.000 I will be speaking there.

00:00:41.000 The Barnetts will be speaking there, Jensen Franklin, and more.

00:00:44.000 You guys can check it out at dreamconference.net.

00:00:48.000 That's dreamconference.net.

00:00:50.000 I will be there.

00:00:51.000 If you're looking to get out of the cold and maybe get into the sun and really be filled up with the spirit at a beautiful conference in a beautiful place by friends of mine, go to dreamconference.net.

00:01:02.000 I think you'll be really blessed by that.

00:01:04.000 We're going to have a Turning Point USA presence there.

00:01:07.000 It's going to be really exciting.

00:01:08.000 Email me directly, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:01:12.000 Happy Sunday, everybody.

00:01:13.000 I hope that you spend it worshiping the Lord and getting your life straightened out because we all need that.

00:01:17.000 Buckle up. 0.96

00:01:18.000 Here we go.

00:01:19.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:21.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:23.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:26.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:30.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:31.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:32.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:40.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:49.000 That's why we are here.

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00:02:01.000 Happy New Year, everybody.

00:02:02.000 It's great to be here.

00:02:03.000 Yeah, Luke and Joe and I were talking.

00:02:04.000 We said, man, are we going to do this one on January 4th?

00:02:08.000 I said, you know what?

00:02:08.000 We had not missed a gathering since we started last May, and we wanted to go straight to it.

00:02:14.000 And I'm blown away by how many of you have come.

00:02:17.000 So God bless you guys.

00:02:18.000 It's great.

00:02:18.000 So I'm going to talk a little bit about what's going on locally, but I do want to kind of do the proverbial kind of year-in review from the last year and talk about how I think things change in an unexpected and very positive way about halfway through the year.

00:02:36.000 And, you know, you look back in 2021, the number one thing that we heard on our radio show and our podcast was that people were so glad for the year to be over.

00:02:47.000 I mean, I kind of totally agree.

00:02:49.000 It was a horror show.

00:02:50.000 Besides the fact I got married, that was awesome.

00:02:52.000 The best part of the whole year.

00:02:54.000 Besides that, it was pretty awful for a lot of different reasons.

00:02:59.000 And I think that we look at one of the main reasons why we thought 2021 was kind of one that we don't want to go back to is that we felt as citizens of our country so helpless as we saw the unraveling of a nation we loved.

00:03:16.000 And I think that was one of the main reasons why in 2021, we were just kind of just so increasingly angry and unsettled.

00:03:25.000 And for those of you that are new here to Freedom Square and Freedom Night in America, as we're calling it, as we're branching out to more campuses, we exist here to create biblical citizens inspired for local change.

00:03:37.000 That's why we're here.

00:03:38.000 We're trying to get you to be informed, to be motivated, and encouraged to have, to understand what it means to be a biblical citizen.

00:03:46.000 It's not about a political party.

00:03:48.000 It's not about even certain politicians.

00:03:49.000 It's about empowering you to know what it means, what the Bible says about being an informed citizen.

00:03:55.000 So we're actually branching this out to another new church.

00:03:58.000 I'm going to be going out quarterly to Steve Smotherman's Church in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and some other churches are going to be announcing this as well.

00:04:06.000 And so you look at this idea of what a citizen is.

00:04:10.000 I think we need to take a step back and kind of appreciate how rare it is to live in a nation where you're considered to be a citizen.

00:04:19.000 For now, citizenship is incredibly rare.

00:04:23.000 Most human beings existed under a government as a serf or as a subject or as a slave.

00:04:29.000 To be a citizen means that you're a co-owner.

00:04:32.000 It literally is what the Greek word means.

00:04:34.000 And whatever national or state or local project that you're in.

00:04:38.000 It's a blessing from the Lord that you're able to be born into a country where you even have some form of a say.

00:04:44.000 Now, if you kind of look at what's happening in the country over the last year, it really is the dying citizen, as Victor Davis Hansen would say.

00:04:53.000 And the best attempts by the American ruling class in the year 2021 is they wanted to try and turn a nation that was once a nation of citizens into a nation of subjects.

00:05:06.000 And that really was the tension point.

00:05:08.000 And so things started pretty bleak in January of last year.

00:05:12.000 There is the morale of those of us that love freedom and love the country, it was understandably low.

00:05:20.000 And in kind of February and March of last year, you might think back to some of the big news stories as they unfolded.

00:05:28.000 It seemed as if the people that were in charge, the rulers, were largely untouchable.

00:05:33.000 Now, you know, we met here and we had our first gathering back in May of last year, which coincided with what I believe was one of the great stories of 2021, which was moms and dads starting to rise up and go to school board meetings across the country, including all throughout Arizona.

00:05:49.000 And what was so special about this was that this was the only place where many of you felt that you could actually make a meaningful and measurable difference with the chaos, the calamity, and the catastrophe that was happening around you.

00:06:06.000 And in some ways, the school boards had many years, if not decades, of complaints piling up that somebody's like, I'm not going to go to a school board meeting.

00:06:14.000 But in 2020, it was like, you know what?

00:06:16.000 I'm so angry.

00:06:17.000 Things are more expensive.

00:06:18.000 Supply chain crisis.

00:06:19.000 They're teaching CRT to my kids.

00:06:22.000 I'm going to show up to the school board meeting.

00:06:23.000 And it kind of became this kind of almost pressure release valve for so many of us that were like, you know what?

00:06:31.000 I'm angry at a lot of different things, understandably, but I'm really upset with the fact that these school boards are putting masks on our children and mandating vaccines all the while that we know that the virus is not going to be a substantial risk to young people in any way, shape, or form.

00:06:46.000 And so what happened in last year was, and it's really kind of interesting because you didn't feel the effects of what was actually happening in real time till months afterwards.

00:06:56.000 And as you started to see citizenship start to become renewed last calendar year in August, September, and October, especially when you saw the Department of Justice issue their memo against moms and dads calling parents that show up to school board meetings domestic terrorists, all of a sudden, the game changed in a very serious way.

00:07:17.000 And this could best be explained.

00:07:19.000 Historians will look back at this, honest historians, as the unexpected and the great inversion.

00:07:24.000 So you look at what an inversion means in the dictionary.

00:07:27.000 It means almost like a 180 turn, right?

00:07:29.000 When things go in a way that they aren't expected to be.

00:07:32.000 So you look back at this last year.

00:07:34.000 It started as one where the people that were in charge, the rulers, they thought that they were going to be able to make you sue for peace, basically surrender.

00:07:46.000 You're going to stop showing up at events like this.

00:07:48.000 You're going to stop caring about the education of your kids.

00:07:52.000 And the exact opposite happened.

00:07:54.000 It was the ultimate kind of slow motion picture of Newtonian physics, which was for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction, which was that for every time that they raided some journalist department like James O'Keefe, or they called a mom a domestic terrorist, there was going to be another hundred people that showed up in that person's place to actually advocate for what was righteous, true, beautiful, and good.

00:08:19.000 And this is one of the reasons why in 2021, and this is a great sign.

00:08:24.000 If you want to see a sign of a country that wants to save itself, this is a sign.

00:08:28.000 If you want to see a country that doesn't care, it'll go the opposite direction.

00:08:31.000 When things get smaller, it's a sign that citizens want their country back.

00:08:38.000 That means that when a country like the United Kingdom wants to leave the European Union and want to get out of kind of this internationalist type organization, that's a good sign.

00:08:38.000 Now, what does that mean?

00:08:50.000 When parents are more concerned about what happens at the local city council than Congress, that's actually a really good sign.

00:08:56.000 When things get more local, all of a sudden that is the strength.

00:09:00.000 That's always been the strength of our nation, by the way.

00:09:03.000 Make no qualms about it.

00:09:04.000 Congress has always should have always been an afterthought, but we've always been kind of so propagandized to believe what's happening in DC mattered more than what's happening in Chandler or Gilbert or Peoria.

00:09:15.000 And so when things start to get in these smaller concentric circles, that's a sign of regular normal people, you saying, I might not be able to control what Chuck Schumer does or whatever, but I can't have a say here.

00:09:28.000 And that's why in 2021, and you've all played a major role in this, you saw the rebirth and the re-emphasis of family-focused issues when it comes in political conversations and debates, which I thought was a really healthy reinvigoration.

00:09:43.000 You saw the church matter more than ever before.

00:09:46.000 And I just want to thank Dream City for what you guys did for the Arizona community this last year.

00:09:51.000 It was so unbelievable.

00:09:52.000 It truly was incredible and deserves applause.

00:09:55.000 And you saw the city matter more.

00:10:01.000 So you have the family, the church, and the city.

00:10:03.000 And you take a step back and you say, isn't that what government is actually always supposed to be?

00:10:08.000 Now, just so we're all clear, the founding fathers were very skeptical that a republic could be as big as it is.

00:10:20.000 A small R republic, Republican, not Republican Party. 0.76

00:10:25.000 It really is hard to work when it starts to get 330 million people.

00:10:30.000 It's very difficult.

00:10:32.000 And in some ways, I think one of the lessons of this last year, and this is a positive sign, this is the momentum that no one's going to stop, by the way.

00:10:40.000 And it's only going to continue, is that I'm going to now focus on the place I drive by every single day.

00:10:48.000 And then we're going to build up from that one kind of area from there.

00:10:52.000 And that's what a republic always was supposed to be.

00:10:54.000 And again, many young people in this audience, you know, and I'm being 28, I still remember the last gasp of like when America was this way, but it's been inverted the last 10 years and we're changing it back, which is I remember in America where the states were always given preference over the federal government, not the federal government over the states.

00:11:15.000 And we must remember the states created the federal government, not the other way around.

00:11:19.000 And now, why is that?

00:11:20.000 Would the founding fathers have some sort of weird fascination with states?

00:11:23.000 No, they understood that when things fall apart, which they inevitably do, it's the second law of thermodynamics, that it's better to have people take responsibility for places they can recognize and hold accountability for them, not some far distant land of some person that runs some regulatory agency that you've never heard of.

00:11:40.000 And so there is a tension point right now.

00:11:42.000 And I believe that truth is going to win.

00:11:45.000 And I believe the church is going to win.

00:11:48.000 And we already know that Jesus has won.

00:11:49.000 We know how the book ends, right?

00:11:51.000 But I believe in this moment we know how this is going to end, which is the tension right now is that the rulers are increasingly paranoid with the ruled.

00:12:03.000 They're kind of like, why do you guys care so much?

00:12:06.000 Why are you speaking out?

00:12:07.000 And you're starting to see what we call this massive hedge.

00:12:11.000 When you start to see people like Anthony Fauci go on television, not a big fan of his, if you haven't noticed, and I do pray for his soul.

00:12:20.000 I hope he finds Jesus.

00:12:21.000 I mean that.

00:12:22.000 Every person should.

00:12:23.000 And I actually think it would make him a lot happier and a lot less fear-driven, actually.

00:12:26.000 I really do.

00:12:27.000 That's a separate speech for a different time, actually.

00:12:30.000 Why everyone needs Jesus, including the director of the NIH, CDC.

00:12:35.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:12:36.000 But one of the things that you all of a sudden see him on television, he says, hey, you know what?

00:12:40.000 We've been overcounting COVID numbers.

00:12:42.000 Like, wait a second, really?

00:12:45.000 That used to be considered to be a conspiracy theory.

00:12:47.000 Now it's mainline television.

00:12:49.000 Why would he say that?

00:12:50.000 He'd say that because he's seeing the same thing so many other people are seeing, which is all of a sudden in the last 30 days, something profound has happened.

00:12:57.000 And I want to thank all of you that showed up to AmericaFest, by the way.

00:13:00.000 That was awesome.

00:13:03.000 And that played a big role in really expanding the conversation.

00:13:07.000 And make no mistake, he might be an atheist team.

00:13:11.000 I don't know what he believes, but Joe Rogan is someone who is an unusual character.

00:13:16.000 I guess that's fair to say.

00:13:17.000 I have a lot of respect for him.

00:13:19.000 He had the most downloaded episode he's ever had.

00:13:21.000 He's like 10 times bigger than even the top-watched cable show where he had Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone on a show in the last month, and 60 million downloads.

00:13:30.000 I mean, that's like a civilization, right?

00:13:32.000 Of people that are now pursuing a separate narrative against everything that they've been told the last year and a half.

00:13:39.000 And it's reflected in public opinion polling, where a majority of Americans do not feel that lockdowns, mask mandates, or vaccine mandates are necessary in response to Omicron.

00:13:49.000 Yet they're doing it anyway in certain states.

00:13:51.000 And so what you're living through, and we're going to be able to tell this story in a very, I think, victorious way, is, and this is exactly what we strive to do here at Freedom Square and Freedom Night in America and with Dream City and with Turning Point USA, is the rise of the citizen.

00:14:06.000 That's what happened in 2021, is that the regime started to fall and the citizen started to rise up.

00:14:13.000 And if you look at where we as Christians and the church need to focus, it's the empowerment of you as a co-owner of the national project, right?

00:14:23.000 And by the way, that doesn't mean that they're not going to stop, obviously.

00:14:26.000 And by they, I mean all the different mega, you know, kind of organizations, right?

00:14:33.000 CDC, Amazon, Google, and all that.

00:14:35.000 But there is an increasing unease that every ounce of energy they've put into this is all of a sudden going to be used against them in a very serious way.

00:14:46.000 And that's the tension.

00:14:47.000 It's a tension between the ruled and the rulers.

00:14:49.000 And so many of you have asked, well, what can we do about it?

00:14:53.000 Well, let's go back to what is the sign of a healthy country.

00:14:56.000 A sign of a healthy country is someone who first focus on their individual salvation with their creator, then on the health of their family, then on their church, and then their city and their community.

00:15:07.000 And I'm starting to see the rebirth of that in a way that in 10 years of doing this, I've never seen before.

00:15:13.000 More parents are homeschooling than ever before.

00:15:14.000 The homeschooling population doubled in 2021, everybody.

00:15:18.000 It doubled in 2021.

00:15:21.000 And I'll close with this.

00:15:24.000 And I thought it would be a really fun way to kick off the year with our host, Luke Barnett, and I, just to kind of explore his amazing sermon he did over this last weekend and talk about this further.

00:15:36.000 And also the kind of the blessing of fasting, which I think would be particularly fun as Luke is fasting right now.

00:15:43.000 So you're not supposed to tease people as they fast.

00:15:46.000 So I'm not going to do it.

00:15:47.000 I promise.

00:15:48.000 I know a lot of you are fasting as well, but if I, I'm going to have a direct ask that I think we should fast monthly every year, every month this year, as we head into this very important year for our country.

00:15:57.000 We're going to talk about that in a second.

00:15:58.000 But I'm going to close with this, which is that the founders believed, and this was explicitly written in Alexander Hamilton, John Jay's, James Madison's private journals, that only God should be able to have the executive, legislative, and judicial authority.

00:16:15.000 This is why they intentionally separated everybody.

00:16:18.000 They separated it because they believed that no person on this planet should have that much authority.

00:16:23.000 But they realized that the true immediate authority needs to be invested in all of you.

00:16:28.000 This is one of the great dangers of these independent regulatory agencies, of people that are largely untouchable, that run these bureaucracies in D.C., of which you've never met them.

00:16:38.000 They're unelected, unknown, and have almost unaccountable power.

00:16:41.000 But the trajectory of 2020 that we're on, if we keep it up, if you keep on praying, fasting, showing up to events, showing up to school board meetings, running for office, if you feel so compelled, consuming news and information, knowing what's happening around you, even though it might be slightly depressing at times, is that you're about to live through the greatest, most unexpected citizen movement in a generation.

00:17:06.000 Let me say that again.

00:17:07.000 You're about to live through one of the greatest citizens.

00:17:09.000 When all of a sudden they're going to look back and they're going to say, when it seemed bleak and it seemed so negative and so dark, and it was led by the church, I really believe that's where it all comes down to.

00:17:20.000 And I remember the first thing that we said at this, you know, at this gathering was that it's always been the church that has been the one, like a trust fall that has caught America and brought it back into posture, right?

00:17:32.000 At every single awakening.

00:17:34.000 And you're seeing that.

00:17:35.000 You're seeing that in a very special way.

00:17:37.000 But and here's the takeaway, though, is that in no way whatsoever is it time to disengage because you think you got everything all figured out.

00:17:46.000 No, here's the time for us to put the proverbial foot on the accelerator for liberty and for righteousness, because we are in a much better, stronger position a year from a year ago.

00:17:58.000 I don't know about you guys, a year ago on the calendar year, it was pretty dark for me personally.

00:18:03.000 I was not really sure.

00:18:05.000 I thought people were going to give up.

00:18:06.000 And we tried to do everything we could to try to keep the stamina going and keep the velocity moving.

00:18:11.000 And you're all playing such a phenomenal part and big role in that.

00:18:17.000 So just remember that you're living through what it truly means, as it says in the Bible, to be a citizen.

00:18:24.000 That is so rare.

00:18:25.000 If you look right now in Austria, Spain, Greece, and Italy, they do not have citizens.

00:18:33.000 If you leave your house in Austria without a vaccine card, you're in violation of the law.

00:18:38.000 That's not a citizen.

00:18:39.000 That's something else.

00:18:40.000 You could fill it in.

00:18:40.000 That's a subject.

00:18:41.000 That's whatever it is.

00:18:42.000 And to reclaim your rightful role as someone who, as God wants you to be, a citizen of this great nation, it's going to take action.

00:18:50.000 It's going to take prudence and it's going to take faith.

00:18:52.000 And that's the role the church needs to continue to play.

00:18:55.000 No better segue than to invite, great way to kick off this calendar year, your pastor and my friend Luke Barnett.

00:19:00.000 Luke, come on up.

00:19:20.000 So, Luke, first, I just want to thank you again for hosting this.

00:19:23.000 This is inspired, just so everyone knows, this has inspired dozens and soon to be hundreds of other pastors and churches across the country to do this very same type of forum.

00:19:33.000 We're talking about pastors in North Carolina, New Mexico, Florida, where they look at the success of this and they're just blown away.

00:19:40.000 And we just tallied the numbers.

00:19:41.000 Connor's around here somewhere, where if you count the podcast downloads, the YouTube views, the Facebook views, well over 10 million people have consumed the content of what has happened here in this room in the calendar year of 2021.

00:19:56.000 10 million people.

00:19:59.000 And so, and you're all playing a role in that.

00:20:02.000 So, Luke, you had a beautiful message this week on how to save a nation.

00:20:05.000 Yeah, well, you know, first of all, I want to say thank you to Charlie.

00:20:08.000 We're going back and forth here, but I truly believe that God has used this young man to inspire churches all across America to let them know they're not alone, that they have a voice in the public court.

00:20:21.000 And we're so grateful for you and your love for the Lord.

00:20:24.000 When I first met you, I really didn't know you too well, but I just thought, as I've come to know you, you are the real deal.

00:20:30.000 You love the Lord, you love the church, and we're just so grateful for all you're doing to help the cause and spread the cause of Jesus Christ.

00:20:37.000 You know, when Charlie called me today and asked me to share with him tonight, I said, You want me to share about my message on Sunday?

00:20:45.000 He said, Yeah, you talk about how to save a nation.

00:20:48.000 And I began preparation for my message thinking, Can one person really save a nation?

00:20:55.000 Can one man, can one woman really save a nation? 1.00

00:20:57.000 So I began to look in the Bible about people who have saved a nation.

00:21:01.000 Of course, there's Esther, she saved a nation, but there's an obscure guy in the Old Testament book of Judges, and his name was Shamgar.

00:21:10.000 Anybody here ever heard of Shamgar?

00:21:12.000 Of course, those who were here suddenly heard of Shamgar.

00:21:14.000 But Shamgar, the Bible says about him, he was a judge of Israel, but he killed 600 Philistines with his ox goad. 0.99

00:21:25.000 Okay, so I thought about that.

00:21:27.000 He's a judge of Israel, but he killed 600 of these enemies of God with an ox goad. 0.97

00:21:33.000 And so, if you know the book of Judges, during this time, people wouldn't even travel on the main highways and streets because there was such fear in the land.

00:21:43.000 And the Bible tells us the reason why there was such fear and chaos in the land is because in Judges 21, it says that every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

00:21:53.000 So, there was no absolute standard of truth, there was no governing power that was keeping everybody in line.

00:22:02.000 So, people just did what they wanted to do, made up their own rules.

00:22:05.000 And in that chaos, the Bible says that the Philistines saw the weakness of that nation and they invaded.

00:22:13.000 And that's why there was no people walking on the streets.

00:22:16.000 They were scared.

00:22:17.000 The Bible says that Shamgar saved that nation.

00:22:21.000 How did he do it?

00:22:22.000 Well, the Bible says he took an ox goad.

00:22:26.000 How many of you know what an ox goat is?

00:22:28.000 An ox goat.

00:22:29.000 I don't know what an ox goat is.

00:22:30.000 You know what it is?

00:22:30.000 Okay, well, I'm finally teaching you something that you don't know.

00:22:34.000 An ox goad was made for farming.

00:22:37.000 It was an eight-foot pole.

00:22:38.000 On one side was a very sharp tip, like a spear, and that was made to kind of prick or goad the ox to push him along as he was tilling the soil.

00:22:48.000 Okay, the other side, the other end of it, was like a chisel-like tool that they would dig up the rocks or roots that would obstruct the tilling of the soil.

00:22:57.000 So that was an ox goat.

00:22:58.000 It was a farming tool.

00:23:00.000 Now, why do you need to know what a farming tool is, what an ox goat is?

00:23:04.000 Because the Bible says that he killed 600 Philistines with his ox goat. 0.95

00:23:09.000 So here's a guy who was not yet a judge, but he was making a difference in his nation by starting where he was.

00:23:19.000 He was a man of vision.

00:23:21.000 So, in order to really make a difference, you have to start where you are, but have a vision for where you want to go in the future, a vision for your family, a vision for your business, a vision for how God wants to use you in your church.

00:23:38.000 You know, back in 2013, my dad was a pastor of this church, and he was a great visionary.

00:23:44.000 And he had a heart valve repair, and I became the pastor.

00:23:47.000 And during that time, I had really no vision for the future of our church.

00:23:51.000 So I went on a 40-day Daniel fast.

00:23:56.000 A Daniel fast is when you eat nothing but bird seeds and twigs for 40 days.

00:24:00.000 You know, you eat only things from the ground that grow.

00:24:04.000 And in the meantime, during that fast, I climbed the mountain behind the church every day for 40 days.

00:24:10.000 And I just began to seek God and ask, God, would you give me a vision for the future of our church?

00:24:14.000 Would you show me what we're supposed to be doing in the next 20 years and how we can impact our city and help people and rescue hurting people and rescue people from human trafficking and all these different things?

00:24:26.000 After 40 days on the mountain, God began to download something in my spirit.

00:24:31.000 I know that sounds mystical to some of you here tonight because maybe you're not, you don't have a church background, but he just began to impress upon my spirit.

00:24:39.000 He began to whisper through his voice.

00:24:41.000 And I came down from that mountain after 40 days of fasting.

00:24:44.000 I had very clear vision for the future.

00:24:47.000 It changed the trajectory of our church.

00:24:49.000 We went from one campus to nine campuses in just seven short years.

00:24:55.000 We went from no human trafficking program to America's largest human sex trafficking relief organization.

00:25:02.000 All that came from receiving a God-sized vision on the side of that mountain.

00:25:08.000 I want to ask you, do you have that kind of a vision?

00:25:12.000 What is a vision?

00:25:14.000 A vision is simply this: it's a picture of your future that creates passion in you.

00:25:20.000 I'm going to say it again.

00:25:22.000 A vision is a picture of your future that creates passion in you.

00:25:27.000 It gets you up out of bed in the morning.

00:25:29.000 It gives you life and energy because you see something out there that's so exciting to you that it makes life worth living.

00:25:37.000 And the Bible tells us that God will give us a vision if we seek that kind of vision.

00:25:41.000 And that's what Shangar had.

00:25:42.000 He wasn't a judge yet.

00:25:44.000 He was a farmer.

00:25:45.000 But he said, I have a vision of being a judge one day.

00:25:47.000 But he started where he was.

00:25:49.000 It's a great story of how God used this man.

00:25:52.000 He didn't only start where he was, but he also used what he had.

00:25:55.000 All he had was an ox goat, right?

00:25:57.000 But he said, I had this in my hand right now.

00:26:00.000 And this will make a pretty good tomahawk missile right here, wouldn't it?

00:26:04.000 And I can take people, I can take the enemy out with this ox goat. 1.00

00:26:09.000 And he knew how to use it.

00:26:10.000 And it says in the Bible, without a vision, the people perish.

00:26:13.000 And to find what the vision is, is so incredibly important.

00:26:16.000 So you're fasting right now.

00:26:18.000 Is that right?

00:26:19.000 And your whole church is fasting for 24 hours.

00:26:22.000 Now, I'm going to really make you upset with Pastor Luke.

00:26:25.000 You guys are doing the fast in a very uncomfortable way.

00:26:29.000 Let's put it that way.

00:26:30.000 We call it committed way.

00:26:31.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:26:32.000 I used the word, I used a different word previously.

00:26:35.000 I'm not going to say that.

00:26:36.000 So when I fast, you're not supposed to talk about when you fast, but I guess this is a safe space for that.

00:26:42.000 It does say that in the Bible, not to, you know, kind of make a point of when you fast in like a way where you're a better person than somebody else.

00:26:48.000 However, you always end with dinner, Luke, okay?

00:26:52.000 You don't go to bed hungry.

00:26:53.000 Like, I don't know what sort of wacky thing.

00:26:56.000 Wait, where is that in the Bible?

00:26:58.000 Well, it's not, okay?

00:27:00.000 And so the question is: so, first, let's talk about you guys fasting, right?

00:27:07.000 And no, but I'm, of course, kidding.

00:27:10.000 When I fast, I try to make dinner the last.

00:27:12.000 You go to sleep at least full, and then you get through a full day, right?

00:27:15.000 Because you're going to be like wrestling and turning tonight, right?

00:27:18.000 Yeah, no.

00:27:18.000 Just no, wow.

00:27:19.000 Just sleep like a bird.

00:27:20.000 I couldn't go to bed hungry.

00:27:22.000 That dog won't hunt. 0.99

00:27:24.000 So you guys are fasting as a church.

00:27:27.000 Tell us about that.

00:27:28.000 Okay, so we challenged our church at the beginning of the year from every Tuesday to Wednesday.

00:27:33.000 It's called the John Wesley Fast.

00:27:35.000 It was the longest.

00:27:36.000 It's a fast that held the longest revival in history.

00:27:41.000 And so it's a 24-hour fast.

00:27:43.000 And we've asked our people, starting today at lunch, eat breakfast, eat lunch, then after lunch, don't eat dinner tonight or breakfast tomorrow morning, but pick up eating again at lunchtime tomorrow.

00:27:55.000 It's a 24-hour fast, but just two meals.

00:27:58.000 And that was the John Wesley fast.

00:28:01.000 And then come tomorrow night for our midweek church experience where we are going to, we've gathered hundreds, thousands of prayer requests for people who need breakthrough in some area of their life.

00:28:13.000 Maybe they need healing for their body.

00:28:15.000 Maybe they need a financial breakthrough for their business.

00:28:17.000 Maybe their kids are far from God and they're praying for their kids to come back home.

00:28:21.000 But they're going to have thousands of prayer requests.

00:28:23.000 So we're going to meet here at 6:30 tomorrow night.

00:28:25.000 You're all invited to come be part of this.

00:28:27.000 And for 15 minutes, we're going to sing some songs of worship.

00:28:31.000 Then we're going to teach you for 15 minutes what prayer is, how to pray, principles of prayer.

00:28:37.000 And then we're going to turn the playlist on.

00:28:40.000 And hundreds of people are going to just walk around the auditorium here and pick up these prayer cards.

00:28:46.000 It'll be in stacks of three or four.

00:28:48.000 And you're going to pray for other people's kids who need the Lord, other people who need healing for their body.

00:28:53.000 You're going to pray for them and call their names out and just say, God, would you touch their lives?

00:28:57.000 And hundreds of people are going to be doing this.

00:29:00.000 So the people and their prayer requests, and by the way, if you need a prayer request, please don't leave tonight.

00:29:05.000 If you have a need in your life, fill out one of those cards.

00:29:07.000 We'll pray for you tomorrow night as well.

00:29:09.000 But we're going to walk around this place for about 20 minutes on our own, just praying and calling out those names.

00:29:15.000 And then at the end, we're all going to come together.

00:29:17.000 We call it Ripple Prayer and Corporate Prayer where we gather at the front and we just pray for our nation.

00:29:21.000 We pray for our city.

00:29:23.000 We pray for our schools.

00:29:24.000 We pray for our families.

00:29:25.000 We're doing this every Wednesday in the month of January.

00:29:29.000 And if you want to be a part of something that truly changes your life, our leader, Jesus Christ, said the difficult things in life only come through prayer and fasting.

00:29:42.000 Fasting.

00:29:43.000 So if you want a vision from God, we're talking about vision earlier.

00:29:47.000 How bad do you want it?

00:29:49.000 How bad do you want a God-sized dream in your life?

00:29:52.000 Do you want it bad enough to go on a mountain for 40 days and eat nothing but bird, seed, and twig?

00:29:57.000 I wanted it that bad.

00:29:58.000 I needed it for our church.

00:30:00.000 So this is what prayer and fasting does for us.

00:30:02.000 It gets the breakthrough.

00:30:04.000 And fasting is so special for me personally.

00:30:08.000 And, you know, in the Bible, it says, you know, fasting is a way to deny your flesh and a way to reorient yourself to God.

00:30:16.000 And in a world where everything is so fleshly focused, it is an intentional way to all of a sudden say no to an immediate need that your flesh is saying, like, hey, let's eat.

00:30:28.000 Like, hey, that sounds good.

00:30:29.000 And I mean, good luck even watching a football game without 10, 12, 15, 20 commercials, you know, that try to make food just look like, you know, so alluring and that you need it immediately, right?

00:30:42.000 In some ways, it's almost like a hypersexualization of food.

00:30:45.000 It's unbelievable.

00:30:47.000 And but what fasting does, I say this to young people a lot, students, you know, especially students that feel as if they're going through maybe a bout of darkness or uncertainty or anxiety or depression.

00:31:00.000 I always ask, I say, when was the last time you fasted?

00:31:02.000 They never even thought of it.

00:31:03.000 That's okay because you live in a country that would never even think about fasting, right?

00:31:07.000 It's the opposite, like go order another meal or go indulge even further.

00:31:11.000 But fasting slows you down.

00:31:13.000 And the neuroscience behind fasting is really interesting.

00:31:18.000 So you know this, Luke, that when you're on hour 20, 21, 23, 24, you're probably thinking the most clearly that you have.

00:31:26.000 There's a reason for this, which is going back to when our ancestors in the wilderness and they didn't have food all the time, that God gave our bodies the ability to adjust that when you really need food, your body's going to redirect any remaining calories to mental clarity because you're like, you got to go get food right now, right?

00:31:44.000 And so at that moment, all of a sudden, instead of worrying about digestion, because there's not much action happening there, right?

00:31:49.000 All of a sudden, your body's like, okay, we are now going to put our energy output towards seeing, hearing, and thinking the world around you.

00:31:57.000 For me, you know, I just fasted last week.

00:32:00.000 The mental breakthroughs that happen at our 21, 22, 23, 24 are incredible.

00:32:05.000 And I know, at least from my own personal perspective, it's some of the greatest prayers that a person can have.

00:32:12.000 Talk a little bit about that.

00:32:13.000 Talk about how it could also just help a person individually.

00:32:15.000 They might be going through a tough time right now.

00:32:16.000 Well, first of all, the hunger pains that Charlie says he tries to avoid, there's a reason for those.

00:32:22.000 At night, a very big difference.

00:32:24.000 Those hunger pains.

00:32:25.000 I want to be awake when I suffer.

00:32:26.000 It's a very, it's totally separate.

00:32:29.000 They're supposed to be a trigger.

00:32:32.000 So when you feel hungry, it reminds you, oh, yeah, why am I doing this?

00:32:36.000 Why am I fasting?

00:32:37.000 Oh, yeah, I'm praying for something.

00:32:39.000 I'm believing for something.

00:32:42.000 In the Bible, there's a story where the disciples, they're trying to cast a demon out of a man.

00:32:48.000 And they got their laying hands on him, and they just can't cast the demon out of the man.

00:32:53.000 Jesus comes down and he lays his hands on the man and he casts the demon out immediately.

00:32:58.000 And the disciples said, Jesus, we've been trying to do this for hours.

00:33:03.000 How were you able to do this?

00:33:05.000 And that's when Jesus said, the hard things, the difficult things in life, the breakthroughs, the healing for our body, the breakthrough with our family, the marriage coming back together again.

00:33:17.000 The hard things come through prayer and fasting.

00:33:21.000 So that's why we encourage you to be a part of tomorrow night.

00:33:24.000 Just try it out.

00:33:24.000 I promise you, if you come one week, tomorrow night, you'll be hooked the rest of the month.

00:33:30.000 And we have so much really to pray for.

00:33:32.000 Think about this.

00:33:33.000 We have our dream conference coming up in just about three weeks, first week of February.

00:33:39.000 What is dream conference?

00:33:40.000 Well, Charlie is speaking at our dream conference.

00:33:42.000 And we are thousands of pastors from all over America are going to be gathered in this place, learning how to grow their church, ideas for ministries.

00:33:54.000 But this year we're calling it stand.

00:33:56.000 And we're trying to challenge, encourage, fire up, even, you know, prod them a little bit to take a stand in their city because we really do believe that the hope of America is strong churches in cities, you know, two-fisted men and women of God who will stand up without apology and preach the whole truth and nothing but the truth from the Word of God.

00:34:19.000 And so that's something we're going to be praying about: is that we would see, you know, new churches rise up and do what we're doing here.

00:34:26.000 Create a spark in their city.

00:34:28.000 Challenge their young people to think outside the box and really dedicate their lives to the word of God.

00:34:35.000 Do we have a promo for you?

00:34:36.000 Yeah, go ahead and show that right now.

00:34:38.000 If you want to come to Dream Conference, you can register for this.

00:34:40.000 We have some of the greatest speakers in America.

00:34:43.000 And Jensen Franklin, you're talking about fasting.

00:34:46.000 He fasts for 30 days.

00:34:48.000 I think 30, 40 days.

00:34:50.000 He does that every year.

00:34:50.000 So you could ask him about that.

00:34:52.000 Take a look at this.

00:35:00.000 Listen.

00:35:01.000 Do you not perceive it?

00:35:04.000 Do you not see it?

00:35:08.000 For I am doing a new thing.

00:35:13.000 I am making a way through the wilderness.

00:35:17.000 A kingdom not of this world.

00:35:21.000 Built upon the foundations of the apostles, prophets, Christ as the cornerstone.

00:35:30.000 United we stand.

00:35:33.000 Not on the shifting sands of culture, but on the bedrock of Christ Jesus.

00:35:42.000 We are unshakable, immovable.

00:35:47.000 If you build your life on the shifting sands of human speculation, then your life is going to crumble, Jesus says.

00:35:55.000 But if you will build your life on the rock, solid foundation of my work, then your life's going to hold up.

00:36:10.000 So you're all invited to come to Dream Conference 2022.

00:36:13.000 So in closing, before we take some questions, Luke, you and I were talking backstage.

00:36:17.000 We said, you know, we really just want to kind of for anyone here that's watching online or listening on the residual podcast or here to kind of just make the case for Christ to talk about in this new year.

00:36:28.000 You know, a lot of people make New Year's resolutions, but there is one resolution you can make that will last forever.

00:36:33.000 That really is the most important.

00:36:35.000 And everyone has a different way to come to Jesus.

00:36:39.000 Some people, it's through a transformational experience.

00:36:42.000 Some, you know, says in Romans 1 that at times God's not going to interrupt your sin.

00:36:47.000 If that's what you want in that direction, there's a long way that you can fall.

00:36:51.000 Only by the mercy of God, because sometimes, you know, does Jesus intercede in that?

00:36:55.000 However, when we look at so many different personal lives, some people it's through music that they find Jesus.

00:37:02.000 Some people, it's through the mind, right?

00:37:04.000 And that's definitely for me, kind of thinking deeply about things.

00:37:09.000 It only fastened and strengthened my faith.

00:37:11.000 And so, you know, I go to a lot of college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:37:14.000 You're welcome.

00:37:16.000 And I get a question every so often, which is, Charlie, how can someone who seems intelligent, you see how they word that, believe in Jesus?

00:37:22.000 They're talking about me.

00:37:24.000 How could you believe in this, you know, metaphysical reality?

00:37:28.000 And the answer could go on for two hours, but the short version is, do you believe that there are laws of nature?

00:37:36.000 And it's impossible to say no.

00:37:38.000 I mean, you just open up a physics textbook.

00:37:41.000 You know, there's three very basic laws in Newtonian physics or the law of thermodynamics I mentioned earlier.

00:37:45.000 There are laws that make the world go around, and we live by them every day, whether we like it or not.

00:37:50.000 You know, you have to live under the truth that force equals mass times acceleration.

00:37:55.000 Even the most ardent atheist agrees that the universe began at a specific moment.

00:38:01.000 Well, then, if there was a moment, was there not something that created that moment to begin?

00:38:05.000 And so, by using reason, which God gave us, as it says in Isaiah 1, we can come to this very, very understandable conclusion that if there is a natural law, then there must be a natural lawgiver.

00:38:16.000 And there must be someone that designed all of this.

00:38:19.000 You know, C.S. Lewis famously said, he said, you go look at this beautiful building as we're in.

00:38:24.000 You don't doubt that there isn't an architect because you've never met the architect.

00:38:28.000 You look at the building, you say, wow, this must have been thoughtfully put together.

00:38:32.000 The same can be for our universe.

00:38:34.000 And then you look at just the pattern of human nature.

00:38:36.000 You look how people operate.

00:38:38.000 Rather predictable.

00:38:40.000 And the Bible tells us about that.

00:38:41.000 There is no book, there is no piece of literature ever in the history of the planet that will tell you more about what you're dealing with and where you're headed than the Bible.

00:38:49.000 It's very simple, that we're sinful, broken people that have a soul that needs to get back into communion with our Lord and Savior only through Christ Jesus.

00:39:00.000 And then you just look at the irrefutable, unmistakable evidence of the actual resurrection itself.

00:39:05.000 And even, and this is something we can go into at different, you know, at a deeper level if anyone's interested.

00:39:11.000 But I encourage any skeptic, any atheist, any agnostic to go through a legitimate historical analysis of what we know about the resurrection and Jesus' life and tell me that without a greater chance than not that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

00:39:28.000 From reading Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Acts, the Acts of the Apostles, from their travels across the Mediterranean, to their ministry, to the price that they were willing to pay to the empty tomb, to female witnesses, to the 400-plus people that saw Jesus after he was resurrected, you all of a sudden build this case and you say, there's something here.

00:39:47.000 And you're right.

00:39:48.000 It is the way, the truth, and the life.

00:39:49.000 And for a lot of people, they try to wrestle with, you know, kind of what happens next?

00:39:54.000 And is there a creator?

00:39:55.000 Well, that gift is waiting for you.

00:39:57.000 And it is Christ Jesus.

00:39:58.000 And we have to accept it into our life.

00:40:00.000 That's really good.

00:40:01.000 Amen.

00:40:03.000 You know, I've always said if you want to put your ultimate hope in something, you never want to put your ultimate hope into something that can change or be taken away from you.

00:40:15.000 And there's an old song that we used to sing when I was a kid.

00:40:17.000 We don't sing it too often anymore in church.

00:40:19.000 It goes this way.

00:40:20.000 On Christ, the solid rock, I stand.

00:40:25.000 All other ground is sinking sand.

00:40:28.000 And I would just say to you that, you know, if you put your ultimate hope in anything other than Jesus Christ, it's going to shift.

00:40:37.000 It's going to shift beneath your feet at some point.

00:40:40.000 If you put your ultimate hope in the stock market and the stock market goes south, well, there goes your hope.

00:40:46.000 If you put your ultimate hope in your spouse and your spouse passes away or leaves, well, there goes your ultimate hope.

00:40:53.000 You don't want to put your ultimate hope in anything, in something that can change or be taken away from you.

00:41:00.000 Christ is the solid rock.

00:41:01.000 I promise you, if you stand on that rock, it won't shift.

00:41:06.000 It won't move.

00:41:07.000 You'll find the hope you're looking for.

00:41:09.000 I just want to pray for you right now.

00:41:10.000 Would you just bow your head for just a moment with me and close your eyes?

00:41:13.000 If you say, look, you know, that's what I need in my life.

00:41:17.000 I've tried to plant my feet on so many different types of stones in my life, relational stones, vocational stones, emotional stones.

00:41:29.000 And they've all just been shifting sand to me.

00:41:33.000 And I need the kind of rock you're talking about here today.

00:41:35.000 And I just, tonight, I just want to give my life to Christ.

00:41:40.000 I just want to put my ultimate faith and hope in that unshifting rock of Jesus Christ tonight.

00:41:47.000 If you just say these words right from your heart to God, the Bible declares that he will hear you.

00:41:52.000 God will hear your prayer.

00:41:53.000 He will forgive you.

00:41:54.000 You will be adopted into his family and your life will change.

00:41:58.000 So if that's you, would you just say these words after me?

00:42:00.000 I'll lead you in this little prayer.

00:42:02.000 Just say, Heavenly Father, today I give you my life.

00:42:09.000 You said in your Bible, if I would ask you that you would forgive me.

00:42:16.000 And so I ask you now to be the leader of my life and the Lord of my life, to direct my life, to show me how to live, to make me more like your son, Jesus.

00:42:31.000 Thank you for hearing my prayer.

00:42:34.000 Thank you for making me born again in Jesus' name.

00:42:39.000 Amen.

00:42:40.000 The Bible says when you prayed that prayer, he heard you, he forgave you, and you just, just now you've got a brand new birthday today.

00:42:48.000 You are born again, the Bible says.

00:42:49.000 So congratulations.

00:42:50.000 Happy birthday.

00:42:51.000 So I want to get to some questions.

00:42:54.000 And what's so amazing is that when you're born again, you know, it says in Philippians 4, 6, a lot of young people, and this is a very serious thing.

00:43:03.000 It says well over 65% of people under the age of 25 say they have serious anxiety issues.

00:43:09.000 And it says in Philippians 4:6, do not be anxious about anything, but instead through prayer, thanksgiving, and supplication, let your requests be known to God.

00:43:17.000 And it says, for the peace of God which transcends all understanding, will guard your heart and mind through Christ Jesus.

00:43:23.000 And then, obviously, Philippians 4:8, for whatever is good, true, beautiful, noble, think on these things or dwell on these things.

00:43:31.000 Those three verses, for those of you that are born again, or if you're in that 65% of young people that are experiencing that anxiety, I encourage you, really pray over those verses.

00:43:40.000 I think they could really bless you.

00:43:42.000 Okay, let's go to some questions.

00:43:44.000 And students, you guys get preference as always.

00:43:46.000 Okay.

00:43:47.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:43:48.000 I go to Colorado Christian, and my name is Kayla.

00:43:50.000 I'm just a freshman.

00:43:51.000 But I'm curious: what do you think with the big homelessness crisis happening that we see in Denver and like Lakewood?

00:43:58.000 I see that every day, and it breaks my heart.

00:44:00.000 But what do you think is the biblical role of the church and the government and the individual?

00:44:05.000 That's a great question.

00:44:06.000 Luke, do you want to start with that?

00:44:07.000 You guys do so much work with homeless, the homeless population in a loving and empowering way.

00:44:12.000 And then I can kind of think about it.

00:44:13.000 I did not hear the question.

00:44:14.000 I'm trying to get some more monitoring.

00:44:17.000 She goes to Colorado Christian University, and she asked, what would the biblical response be to the homelessness issue, which is plaguing Colorado and increasingly hurting Arizona?

00:44:30.000 Which you exit at Frank Lloyd Wright.

00:44:34.000 It's kind of stunning.

00:44:35.000 And you see that all over.

00:44:37.000 So, Luke, I'll let you think about it.

00:44:40.000 It's very simple.

00:44:40.000 If the church would be the church, we wouldn't have a homeless problem in America today.

00:44:45.000 And the church, in so many ways, has failed to be the church.

00:44:48.000 It's become a bureaucracy of people who come and they sit in seats and they sing music and go home.

00:44:54.000 But we believe if Jesus Christ were walking on the planet today, he would be out there helping the hurting, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked.

00:45:03.000 And so we here at Dream City, we just say we're going to be a blue-collar church.

00:45:07.000 We're going to be out there on the streets.

00:45:08.000 We're going to buy hotels and open them up and recover people.

00:45:12.000 We're going to try to get people off of drugs and alcohol.

00:45:15.000 And so I really believe if the church would be the church, that's our role in making a difference in our cities.

00:45:21.000 And I have a view that I believe the church should adopt, which is I do not think we should tolerate the open-air homelessness, meaning that I don't think that it's good for the society.

00:45:33.000 I don't think it's good for children to be raised in a city that has panhandlers or homeless individuals. 1.00

00:45:40.000 And it's not good for a variety of reasons.

00:45:42.000 I think it's just, I think it actually demoralizes the population.

00:45:46.000 I think that it creates a messiness to the local city and community, which you can see easily in Los Angeles and San Francisco.

00:45:54.000 I think it allows for communicable diseases that very well, you know, could have been thwarted.

00:45:58.000 So those are kind of the, you know, kind of the very obvious ones.

00:46:01.000 But then also, I also think, I think it creates kind of this kind of apathetic posture towards people suffering. 0.84

00:46:09.000 I mean, in a way that we as a very sophisticated and wealthy society can't get our act together with this, I think is rather ridiculous.

00:46:18.000 Now, for those of you that have worked in homeless ministries, you know this a lot better than I have.

00:46:22.000 I've done my fair share of it.

00:46:24.000 I'm by no means an expert, but I grew up helping in a local church in this.

00:46:28.000 There's many different categories of people that are homeless.

00:46:31.000 There's people that are legitimately, you know, they'd lost their job.

00:46:34.000 They're dealing, almost 95% of people are dealing with addiction issues that are in that category.

00:46:40.000 There's some people that have very serious mental health issues and need treatment and they need counseling and they need to be in a place where they can be hopefully in an environment that can get them towards healing.

00:46:51.000 And then there's a different portion that are people that unfortunately don't want to stop being homeless.

00:46:59.000 And that is a problem.

00:47:01.000 I think we should have the New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani position, which is, look, we're going to love on you.

00:47:07.000 We're going to empower you.

00:47:09.000 You don't get to be at the corner of Frank Lloyd Wright and just kind of, you know, that's not the way it works, right?

00:47:17.000 That is not your home.

00:47:18.000 It's not going to be like your open-air living room.

00:47:22.000 It's not good for that person, by the way.

00:47:24.000 It makes them prone to, especially if they're a female homeless person, prone to rapes, prone to be taken advantage of, and other things. 1.00

00:47:31.000 And so, but I think this Dream City deserves so much credit for this, but it's a big issue for me.

00:47:37.000 You know, I was just meeting today with someone that was running for governor of this state, and I told her, I said, you know, I really need the leadership of the state to take homelessness more seriously because I think that it's this open-air acceptance of the citizenry not caring.

00:47:54.000 And I don't want to live in that type of country at all.

00:47:57.000 And I don't think it's the biblical approach at all.

00:47:59.000 So God bless you.

00:48:00.000 And CCU is a great school.

00:48:01.000 So thank you so much.

00:48:02.000 Appreciate it.

00:48:03.000 Thank you.

00:48:04.000 Hello.

00:48:05.000 My name is Maverick Courtney, and I go to Paradise Valley Community College.

00:48:10.000 I noticed a photo in Turning Point Instagram of when you started the organization and at American Fest when it was so big.

00:48:20.000 And I was wondering as a follower of Christ and the future owner in the business, any concerns, thoughts during it?

00:48:29.000 Yeah, so quite a lot.

00:48:33.000 So what you're talking about, and you're very kind.

00:48:36.000 An AmericaFest, we had over 10,000 attendees from all 50 states.

00:48:40.000 We had a guy come up to me from Japan, which was just awesome.

00:48:44.000 And he's giving his life to the Lord.

00:48:46.000 It's so cool.

00:48:47.000 Which is Japan is not a very Christian country.

00:48:49.000 Korea is. 0.88

00:48:50.000 Japan is not a very Christian country.

00:48:51.000 It's a very Taoist, Eastern, secular society, which was really cool.

00:48:55.000 Listen to our podcast and literally travel all the way from Tokyo to come there.

00:48:59.000 And so what you're talking about is a picture we posted on our Instagram where we had our first ever winter retreat with like 55 students six years ago, and then we get to 10,000, right?

00:49:09.000 Just amazing.

00:49:10.000 It's all thanks to the Lord, first and foremost.

00:49:13.000 And I'll say a couple things: that when we first started Turning Point USA, I was wrongly encouraged by secular people to not talk about God publicly.

00:49:24.000 Now, as soon as I started talking about God and Jesus, two things happened: the attacks increased, and the persecution was ramped up, and the blessing also increased dramatically.

00:49:34.000 It was this amazing thing.

00:49:36.000 It was like, wow, I'm going to bless you with more, but also you're going to get attacked from every single direction.

00:49:42.000 And so that was a lesson.

00:49:44.000 Yeah, but if you're trying to start a business, and Luke, you had this beautiful statement earlier, which what?

00:49:48.000 A passion is, how'd you word that?

00:49:51.000 Vision.

00:49:52.000 Thank you.

00:49:52.000 Vision.

00:49:53.000 First time doing this.

00:49:54.000 Vision.

00:49:55.000 That's okay, Luke.

00:49:56.000 You'll catch up.

00:49:56.000 The vision is a picture of your future that creates passion in you.

00:50:01.000 And it's just a way that when you get up in the morning, if you see something, it almost pulls you into your future.

00:50:07.000 It almost causes you to cast off restraint.

00:50:10.000 The Bible says without a vision, the people perish.

00:50:12.000 One translation says they cast off restraint, which means they just start living like every other Tom, Dick, and Harry out in the world.

00:50:19.000 And there's nothing God in their life.

00:50:21.000 And so I would really encourage you to seek God to give you a real fresh vision.

00:50:26.000 Yeah, and aim for things that matter, right?

00:50:29.000 And if you're doing it for the right reasons and you prioritize the correct things, your life will start to naturally order itself.

00:50:37.000 This is a lesson that I try to impart on our students as much as possible.

00:50:42.000 It's obviously difficult because you're dealing with a very highly pressurized society when it comes to this.

00:50:48.000 So you're kind of fighting gravity in some sense.

00:50:51.000 But the earlier that you realize that self-control as a fruit of the spirit is something that you're going to want to try to desire, it's an incredibly important thing.

00:51:01.000 And so I imagine you gave your life to Christ already, but you also must understand that the spiritual attacks do not stop as soon as you give your life to Christ.

00:51:10.000 Satan does not stop attacking.

00:51:12.000 Sometimes it intensifies, especially if you're a leader in a church, if you're an elder in a church, tells us that in Titus, especially.

00:51:18.000 But Satan would love nothing more than, even though you gave your life to Christ, try to take you kind of out of the equation, like try to de-emphasize you, right?

00:51:25.000 To try to make you question what you're doing.

00:51:28.000 I encourage you to lean in.

00:51:30.000 and understand the spiritual weapons that the Bible gives you to deal with that.

00:51:33.000 But then also, at a young age, if you're trying to grow a business, you're given the ability.

00:51:41.000 This is why I'm a big believer in young people delaying going to college, is take the biggest risk you possibly can because you literally have very little to lose.

00:51:50.000 Now, by risk, I mean try to start a business or obviously reasonable and virtuous risk, right?

00:51:57.000 Not like, you know, I'm going to see if I can fly, like not exactly smart, right?

00:52:01.000 But you understand what I mean.

00:52:02.000 That's the perfect age to do that.

00:52:04.000 But I love hearing that.

00:52:05.000 And we need more, this is my call to action always.

00:52:08.000 We need more young people to want to start businesses.

00:52:11.000 We need more Christian, pro-American young people that want to start businesses.

00:52:16.000 We really do.

00:52:17.000 So God bless you.

00:52:17.000 Thank you.

00:52:20.000 Hey, so as somebody that is coming up in the conservative movement, I mean, Charlie, I think you know this.

00:52:26.000 I'm 18 years old.

00:52:26.000 And so I've been speaking around the state now for the last probably six months or so.

00:52:32.000 And I have to say that one of the most annoying things about the conservative movement is the amount of rhetoric.

00:52:37.000 This is the amount of rhetoric.

00:52:37.000 What?

00:52:39.000 Oh, it's like the same stuff over and over again.

00:52:41.000 And so one of the things that I've been trying to focus on is like facts, stats, and history, which is something that you have done a phenomenal job at, by the way.

00:52:49.000 You're kind of the guy that I look to when I'm looking for that stuff.

00:52:52.000 So what is the way that we can, I guess, shape the conservative movement in that way?

00:52:58.000 Because sometimes I feel like I'm alone in that sense, where it's like I'm the only one trying to like explain and talk about the things that people aren't talking about, right?

00:53:08.000 Yeah, first, I want to compliment you.

00:53:09.000 What's your name again?

00:53:10.000 I'm sorry, I should know.

00:53:11.000 Eric.

00:53:12.000 So Eric lives out a principle by a movie artist that I'm not going to name because he's a bad guy.

00:53:17.000 But he said that 95% of life is just showing up.

00:53:21.000 And you guys, and yeah, I'm not going to say who, because he's a bad guy.

00:53:24.000 But it's totally true.

00:53:26.000 You're at like every single one of our events and you always dress in a suit and tie.

00:53:30.000 And I tell young people all the time, if you show up, people will notice.

00:53:35.000 It's not easy to show up at every one of our events and you travel the country.

00:53:38.000 I say it's this, that's so much of life is just proximity.

00:53:42.000 Just show up to the events, right?

00:53:43.000 Like it's, and it's hard not to notice.

00:53:46.000 You show up at every one of our events.

00:53:48.000 And it's great and you have energy and you want to do something with your life and it's hunger.

00:53:51.000 And I just want to compliment you.

00:53:52.000 Don't lose that.

00:53:52.000 It's very important.

00:53:53.000 Andy shows up at all of our services too.

00:53:55.000 Really?

00:53:55.000 Yeah, he's a faithful guy.

00:53:57.000 He's amazing.

00:53:57.000 Praise God.

00:53:59.000 So I want to caution you on one thing.

00:54:02.000 I want to caution you because I can understand what you're saying, that you go to a lot of these events and that you're a little bit bored with some of the rhetoric and all that.

00:54:09.000 Not everyone's going to be as deep into this as you are.

00:54:12.000 And when I was 18, I had the same sort of belief.

00:54:15.000 And the advice I'd give to a younger self is like, hey, it's okay if the 45-year-old plumber who's trying to keep pay rent, it's okay if he doesn't know as much about economics as you.

00:54:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:27.000 Don't think less of that person.

00:54:29.000 Don't like try to be condescending to the police officer.

00:54:34.000 It's okay.

00:54:35.000 However, you're not wrong that certain people in leadership of the conservative movement need to take learning more seriously.

00:54:43.000 You're totally right with that.

00:54:44.000 Where it's that we, and I am, again, one of the things I meant to mention in my opening remarks is that I have seen a new desire and a thirst to go deeper in the citizenry than any other time.

00:54:55.000 You know, we talk about our partnership with Hillsdale and obviously, you know, Lakewood, which does an amazing job and all these different types of, you know, places to learn and to dive into, which I just want to encourage everyone here to try to prioritize to dive deep into the books and the issues and the ideas that really matter.

00:55:16.000 And to know the road ahead, just ask those coming back.

00:55:19.000 And if some of you are like, Charlie, where do I start?

00:55:22.000 You know, there's a phenomenal, I mean, obviously the Bible is a great thing to study, pretty obvious.

00:55:27.000 The Hillsdale online courses, we've plugged many times, Charlie4Hillsdale.com.

00:55:31.000 But if you have a commute, let me just kind of tell you, if you have a commute, try to pick an audio book a month that you're going to spend 10 minutes every single day to listen to.

00:55:41.000 And there's some phenomenal books that I think that would really bless you about a variety of different topics.

00:55:47.000 And I could tell, I went through a whole list of ones that I read or listened to.

00:55:51.000 I'm a big listener of books, right?

00:55:53.000 So you're not wrong in that way.

00:55:54.000 But I just encourage you to keep that balance, right?

00:55:58.000 And I could say this as someone that used to be that person, and I pray that I never will, is don't be the guy that's 20 years old that walks into the room that thinks you know more than everybody else, right?

00:56:11.000 Instead, be like, okay, I might know more facts, but I want to try to find the wisdom of, you know what I'm saying?

00:56:18.000 And I'm not saying you were imparting that in your question at all, but at least that's something I would tell my 18-year-old self, right?

00:56:24.000 Because you have a high IQ, obviously, and you have a desire to learn, and you're like uploading all this information, and you kind of go to these tea party meetings, you're like, what do you mean you don't know Federalist 51?

00:56:34.000 You're like, okay.

00:56:37.000 But be a leader in that.

00:56:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:56:39.000 And you're in the right organization and the right people around you.

00:56:41.000 So God bless you.

00:56:42.000 So thank you for being here.

00:56:46.000 Okay, so I've been reading a book called Lawless.

00:56:51.000 And in the first few chapters, it talks about the one world government that will be present in the end.

00:56:57.000 In those chapters, it talks about the UN, the EU, and the former League of Nations.

00:57:02.000 It also talks about the globalists and climate change, COVID, and how each of those are being used in order to twist our minds to put together this one world government.

00:57:15.000 The scripture tells us that this will happen.

00:57:18.000 So we can't really change it.

00:57:20.000 What are your opinions on that?

00:57:21.000 Yeah, that's a great question.

00:57:22.000 And Luke, I'd love to get you commented.

00:57:24.000 Did you hear it okay?

00:57:25.000 Yeah.

00:57:26.000 So I haven't read that book.

00:57:27.000 What's in the book?

00:57:29.000 Lawless.

00:57:30.000 Okay, I haven't read that book.

00:57:32.000 But what I do believe is that what we've seen this year and last year and the year before is kind of setting us up for that.

00:57:41.000 You know, it's the control of the government.

00:57:45.000 It's pretty amazing how the entire nation and even churches and pastors, they kind of went with the government control.

00:57:54.000 They went with the lockdowns.

00:57:55.000 And it was a real wake-up call to us here because we thought to ourselves, we could see that the spirit of the Antichrist, even though he may not be alive right now, is operative in the world today.

00:58:08.000 And of course, we know what the Bible says.

00:58:10.000 There will be a day when one man will rule the world.

00:58:13.000 That's what the Bible says.

00:58:15.000 When I was a kid, I thought, how in the world could one man ever rule the world?

00:58:19.000 Well, now through technology, every kid on the planet has one of these phones and they're hypnotized by it almost all throughout the day.

00:58:28.000 And we can see how an electric, handsome, charismatic personality could rise up and turn the minds of millions, billions of people all across the planet.

00:58:38.000 So we're set up now.

00:58:40.000 When I was a kid, I thought there's way too much technology that needs to happen for this.

00:58:43.000 It could happen today.

00:58:44.000 And we could be in a cashless society.

00:58:47.000 Many places won't even take cash.

00:58:49.000 In Revelations, it does make an allusion to money only being transferred via numbers.

00:58:56.000 I might be misquoting it, but there's something of that sense.

00:59:00.000 And our friend Jack Kibbs has a phenomenal sermon on that.

00:59:03.000 I just want to say one thing about this, though.

00:59:05.000 And I always have a little bit of a different take.

00:59:09.000 I love learning about Bible prophecy.

00:59:11.000 It's not my focus, but sometimes I find that people that are very focused on Bible prophecy, it ends up in a place of almost an inevitability of decline, and therefore let's do nothing, right?

00:59:25.000 I don't like that.

00:59:26.000 It says occupy till he comes, right?

00:59:29.000 We must be salt and might in every way.

00:59:30.000 So we must look at the signs of the times.

00:59:33.000 Jesus did emphasize more than once, more than twice, more than three times that the hour and the day is unknown, right?

00:59:39.000 We do know that, but I think it's very clear that things are obviously falling into place.

00:59:44.000 It's unmistakable, obviously, with the one world type drum that constantly get beat.

00:59:50.000 But we still need to look at ourselves, we look and say, hey, I'm not going to just run to the hills and wait for this to be over.

00:59:57.000 We have to lean in.

00:59:58.000 And that's a harder call, right?

01:00:00.000 Not all times are created equal.

01:00:01.000 The Bible tells us that too.

01:00:03.000 And the time for us is going to be the great question.

01:00:05.000 Yeah, so I just want to answer your question this way as well.

01:00:08.000 You know, Jesus said that only the Father knows the time of the return.

01:00:12.000 The Son himself doesn't know the time.

01:00:14.000 So we don't know, and we're not even supposed to speculate about the return of Jesus Christ.

01:00:20.000 We can see the seasons around us, but I want to encourage you to read the book of Revelation.

01:00:26.000 Keep digging into that because John, the writer of Revelation, says in opening verses, Blessed are you who read the words of this book.

01:00:35.000 And you don't want to get to heaven one day and run into John and John tell you, ask you, how'd you like my foot?

01:00:40.000 And you said, oh, it's just too freaking weird.

01:00:41.000 I didn't read it.

01:00:42.000 You know, that's not going to go well.

01:00:44.000 So read it, and God will give you discernment.

01:00:48.000 If the Spirit of God lives inside you, He will help you interpret what that says and bring meaning to it for you.

01:00:55.000 Well, so I want to encourage you to really dig in and read it.

01:00:59.000 But, you know, we're supposed to hasten the return of the Lord.

01:01:02.000 How do we hasten the return of the Lord?

01:01:04.000 Well, we become soul winners.

01:01:06.000 We tell other people about Jesus because when the whole world hears the gospel, he says, then I will return.

01:01:12.000 So we can help the return of Jesus Christ and hasten it, like Charlie said, by being busy, not sitting our hands, but being workers for God.

01:01:21.000 What do you want to be caught doing if Jesus returned?

01:01:23.000 That's an important thing to think about, right?

01:01:25.000 Okay.

01:01:26.000 So with the new year, we've been talking a lot about vision.

01:01:29.000 And so my question to both of you guys would be with the partnership between Turning Point USA and Dream City Church, what vision would you guys have for this next year as these are two very different organizations, but with any partnership, there are effects that they will have on one another.

01:01:46.000 And so with Freedom Square in particular, for Charlie, what would you want Freedom Square to affect turning point through this next year?

01:01:52.000 And for Luke, how would you want Freedom Square to affect Dream City Church in this next year?

01:01:57.000 Can I start?

01:01:59.000 So back in 2020, we met Charlie.

01:02:03.000 Charlie came to our church, sat in the front row, and I just saw God working in his life.

01:02:08.000 I saw him sitting there during the prayer time at the end, just trying to get your head around what God was wanting to do with his life and through our church.

01:02:18.000 And then he had his turning point event here, and he told me a few weeks beforehand, President Trump is coming.

01:02:26.000 Like, oh boy, well, here we go.

01:02:27.000 We made a deal.

01:02:28.000 My dad raised me.

01:02:30.000 We make a deal and we do a handshake and we keep our word.

01:02:33.000 We don't renegotiate our word.

01:02:34.000 And so we went forward as a church.

01:02:37.000 And then, you know, that had repercussions because President Trump is a polarizing figure.

01:02:43.000 And we had staff members, you know, leave our church asking their pastor, cancel the turning point events, or were leaving the staff.

01:02:53.000 I'm like, well, you're asking me to do something I can't do.

01:02:56.000 My dad didn't raise me, you know, to not be honest and keep my word.

01:03:01.000 So I hate it, but bye-bye, you know.

01:03:04.000 But after that, after that, I begin to pray.

01:03:08.000 I said, if we have staff members who are so weak that they'll leave their call because their pastor kept their word, you know, for the president of the United States, you know, something's really wrong.

01:03:22.000 So I thought there's something wrong in the churches of America.

01:03:26.000 So I began to pray, God, would you bring, somehow, would you use our church to impact churches all across America?

01:03:32.000 I don't know how.

01:03:34.000 Well, God was speaking to Charlie as well.

01:03:36.000 He called me and he said, I have an idea.

01:03:40.000 At the same time, God was speaking to my heart as well about doing something.

01:03:43.000 I didn't know how to do it.

01:03:45.000 And we got together and came up with this idea of Freedom Square.

01:03:49.000 And then we said, hey, we had this gathering of pastors who come to Dream Conference and we had their ear for three days.

01:03:56.000 What if we showed them what a strong, biblically based, uncompromising church really looked like? 0.99

01:04:03.000 And so now we're going to have the ears of pastors from every city of America in about a month sharing the vision for what can happen in their city.

01:04:12.000 So from my standpoint, God has made the vision very clear.

01:04:16.000 He's going to use his church to really kind of spark a revival spirit in the hearts of many pastors that we can only affect Arizona, but affect America.

01:04:26.000 And I'll just second that.

01:04:28.000 I've told this story a couple of times, but when I got the call during kind of all the, you know, the pressure that was happening in that moment, and just to kind of take you back, this was in the summer of 2020.

01:04:41.000 It was in the midst of the uncertainty of the pandemic.

01:04:44.000 Local city was not exactly fun to work with, you know, no insurance for the event.

01:04:49.000 And I remember I got the call from either Angel or Luke, and I had been conditioned as an event host to be let down, right?

01:04:59.000 And that's just kind of, you just, I was like, all right, here we go.

01:05:01.000 They're going to cancel 100%, right?

01:05:03.000 I was like, they're calling me right now.

01:05:04.000 And I remember, Tyler, you got to find somewhere else.

01:05:06.000 We'll do it.

01:05:07.000 I don't know.

01:05:07.000 We'll do it at the airport or something.

01:05:08.000 I don't know.

01:05:09.000 So, and I pick up the phone, and it was Luke with Angel saying, Charlie, we're getting a lot of backlash.

01:05:15.000 Like, here we go.

01:05:16.000 You know, all this, and we're with you.

01:05:17.000 I was like, what?

01:05:19.000 What are you talking about?

01:05:20.000 That's it?

01:05:21.000 Yeah, we're with you.

01:05:22.000 We're doing the event.

01:05:23.000 We can't wait.

01:05:24.000 Okay.

01:05:27.000 Thank you.

01:05:28.000 It was so beautiful.

01:05:29.000 And it was so rare.

01:05:31.000 And we had a great event, and it was packed, and it was amazing.

01:05:34.000 And praise God.

01:05:35.000 I was just so used to being let down.

01:05:37.000 And I was just so blown away by a church that was willing to stand.

01:05:42.000 And then we started to partner on this.

01:05:44.000 And, you know, just we have the dream conference is coming up.

01:05:46.000 And Luke is nice enough to have me speak.

01:05:49.000 We're going to have a conversation.

01:05:50.000 And my prayer is that hundreds, if not thousands, of those pastors that attend that conference get motivated by the success that we've been able to have here and want to kind of export this to their church.

01:06:02.000 That would be my prayer for this year, at least in this spring, that at that dream conference, they come here, they hear about the attendance, they hear about the 10 million people, they hear about the lives that are changed.

01:06:11.000 They're like, I can do that.

01:06:13.000 And that would be a beautiful thing.

01:06:15.000 And I think that would be a great extension of this partnership.

01:06:17.000 I can just say one more thing.

01:06:19.000 People say, well, why are you getting involved in government?

01:06:21.000 Why are you getting involved in politics?

01:06:24.000 Why have you changed?

01:06:26.000 And my response is, I have not changed.

01:06:29.000 The world around us has changed.

01:06:31.000 Maybe other churches have changed.

01:06:33.000 Churches who were once strong have gotten weaker.

01:06:35.000 But let me give you a little example.

01:06:37.000 I thought about this.

01:06:39.000 If this is God and this is the church and this is the world, if we're not careful, we will keep our distance from the world.

01:06:49.000 But as the world moves further away from God, we'll keep our distance from the world, but we'll keep moving further and further away from God.

01:06:56.000 Okay, and so that's what's happening in America today.

01:06:59.000 Oh, we're still separate from the world, but they're further away from God.

01:07:02.000 So I just, I, my response to anyone who says, Why have you changed?

01:07:06.000 We haven't changed one bit.

01:07:07.000 We've always been fighters.

01:07:09.000 We've always been scrappers.

01:07:10.000 We've always been people who said, push up against the wall.

01:07:13.000 We're going to push back.

01:07:14.000 And we just need more of that, I think, in America.

01:07:16.000 Praise God.

01:07:17.000 We will get to one or I think we have time for one or two more, so we'll go quick.

01:07:21.000 Hey, guys.

01:07:22.000 So I'm a student at Liberty University and I'm a nursing student.

01:07:25.000 So, Charlie, you just recently spoke with Dr. Zolenko last week discussing the hydroxychloroquine pill.

01:07:31.000 And I was pretty taken aback by that podcast.

01:07:34.000 But that stops COVID before it progresses to the threatening stages.

01:07:38.000 And I myself cannot prescribe those pills, but I can definitely bring God consciousness, as you guys talked about, and hope to as many people as I can.

01:07:47.000 So with that in mind, what advice, honestly, what advice would both of you guys give to nursing students going into that field?

01:07:53.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:07:54.000 So let me kind of expand on that.

01:07:56.000 I'm going to have to be careful the way I answer the first part because we're live streaming.

01:07:59.000 I know this is so tyrannical.

01:08:00.000 It's terrible.

01:08:01.000 I have to be careful with how the COVID question, or else we're going to lose all of our stream.

01:08:06.000 So let me answer it more generally, but everyone will understand what I'm saying.

01:08:10.000 The fact that people are not being educated properly about azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, vitamin D levels, and the correlation with COVID treatments is one of the great injustices of my lifetime.

01:08:21.000 It really is.

01:08:21.000 The fact that people are not being made aware of these treatments.

01:08:26.000 I got a call from two people today because obviously it's raging again, right?

01:08:31.000 Which always should have been the mature response that almost everyone's going to get this.

01:08:35.000 Get your D levels up, right?

01:08:36.000 Lose weight maybe if you have to.

01:08:38.000 You know, maybe stop consuming alcohol and get treatments if you get it.

01:08:42.000 That would have been what a mature society does. 0.96

01:08:44.000 Instead, there was a, I think, a false promise.

01:08:47.000 I got so many calls today of people.

01:08:49.000 One in New York, a friend of mine, Charlie, told my doctor I got COVID.

01:08:52.000 I asked him what I could do.

01:08:54.000 He said, go home, and if it gets bad enough, go to the hospital.

01:08:58.000 I said, this is a doctor telling you this?

01:09:00.000 Yes.

01:09:01.000 And it just made me very angry.

01:09:05.000 I told him just some very basic things.

01:09:07.000 I shared with him a study that shows that aspirin can greatly reduce hospitalization.

01:09:12.000 Not exactly hard to get aspirin in America, thankfully.

01:09:14.000 Melatonin can greatly reduce hospitalizations.

01:09:17.000 Vitamin D, it might have been too late for D because that's more of a prophylactic to do to get your D levels up, but it doesn't hurt at the time.

01:09:23.000 Praise God.

01:09:23.000 And he's doing a lot better.

01:09:24.000 He says, doing 50% better 24 hours after.

01:09:26.000 I'm not taking credit.

01:09:27.000 I'm not saying it's a magic thing.

01:09:28.000 I'm not saying any of that.

01:09:29.000 I'm simply talking about data and intervention.

01:09:31.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:09:32.000 So that's just the first part of it.

01:09:34.000 And again, you can kind of tell I'm being careful the way I talk about it.

01:09:37.000 If you want the unfiltered part of it, the podcast you talked about, we did a three-part podcast series.

01:09:42.000 Our first conversation with Dr. Zelenko, who has been phenomenal on this.

01:09:46.000 A second part with Dr. Robert Malone, who just went on Joe Rogan, and then Dr. Peter McCullough.

01:09:52.000 And they all have very similar takes.

01:09:54.000 And if anyone here has a spirit of fear, understandable given the propaganda networks, if you're uncertain, you're like, what happens if I get it?

01:10:02.000 Please listen to our podcast, one of those three.

01:10:04.000 I think you'd be blessed by that type of information.

01:10:06.000 Now, your question, though, is what do you do going into that field, right?

01:10:10.000 Now, are you studying nursing?

01:10:11.000 Is that right?

01:10:12.000 Yeah, I start next semester in nursing school.

01:10:14.000 So you're going to have to go through residency, which will be an experience.

01:10:17.000 However, I do want to encourage one thing.

01:10:19.000 And if any of you guys ever need IV treatment here in the Valley, I go to Prana IV Therapy.

01:10:24.000 They're amazing.

01:10:25.000 They're part of this new free thinking network of medical professionals, of people that are willing to look at more homeopathic, less corporate, more wellness kind of measures.

01:10:37.000 And so, what my answer to you is, you're going to have to do residency.

01:10:40.000 It's hard to avoid.

01:10:41.000 But beyond that, maybe your career, maybe God will be calling you to not work for Banner, not work for Anthem, but maybe go towards some of the mid-level kind of doctors that are pushing back against the norm.

01:10:52.000 They have a nurse, there is a nursing shortage right now for doctors that are looking, that maybe do things a little bit differently.

01:11:00.000 Let me put it that way, right?

01:11:02.000 That are empowering patients, and they're going to need people like you.

01:11:05.000 So, and so that would be my answer.

01:11:07.000 We need nurses. 1.00

01:11:09.000 We need more people to go into nursing.

01:11:11.000 And it's going to be very difficult to go through residency and have to deal with a lot of that.

01:11:14.000 But on the other side of it, God might be bringing you through that trial to then go work for a community of doctors that are willing to actually look at wellness and do the right thing.

01:11:25.000 So, I just want to encourage you with that.

01:11:27.000 So, thank you.

01:11:27.000 So, all right, this will be our last question.

01:11:29.000 Sorry, guys, we're tight on time.

01:11:31.000 Hey, Charlie, my name is Mike.

01:11:32.000 And first of all, I want to thank you for doing these events.

01:11:35.000 I know we had you scheduled last spring at my home church in Puyallup, Washington.

01:11:40.000 And as you remember, that got canceled.

01:11:42.000 So, my question is: I just started a new job in a warehouse, and we have hit that 100-employee magic number.

01:11:50.000 And make a long story short, either we'll have to be vaxed or be tested weekly, which I'm against both.

01:11:56.000 What is your advice to me?

01:11:58.000 Yeah, so I'm very careful giving advice when it comes to people's income.

01:12:03.000 I never ever told anyone that got the vaccine because their payroll is in jeopardy.

01:12:09.000 I never condemned them, I never said anything bad about them.

01:12:11.000 Who am I to tell you that you should restrict your income?

01:12:14.000 I merely just give guidance and advice.

01:12:15.000 But let me just first tell you what we're doing at Turning Point USA and where I think your employers are wrong.

01:12:20.000 We have 195 full-time employees at Turning Point USA.

01:12:24.000 The federal government's not going to tell me what to do with my employees, okay?

01:12:26.000 OSHA is going to have to show up.

01:12:28.000 It's not going to happen, all right?

01:12:31.000 And people say, Oh, Charlie, they're going to find you and all this.

01:12:33.000 So, what?

01:12:33.000 Okay, now let me just tell you how weird and creepy it is.

01:12:36.000 So, let me get this straight.

01:12:37.000 The federal government is now going to tell me that I have to sit down with my employees and ask them about their intimate medical details.

01:12:45.000 Like, that's such a violation.

01:12:48.000 That's a violation for me to do that regardless.

01:12:51.000 And also, it violates a promise I made to my employees.

01:12:54.000 You know how many people that work for us that are so happy that it's a non-issue at Turning Point USA?

01:12:59.000 By the way, we have vaccinated and unvaccinated employees.

01:13:02.000 Not my business.

01:13:03.000 They don't care, right?

01:13:05.000 Why would that somehow be an employer's role, right?

01:13:09.000 I mean, it's just so beyond.

01:13:11.000 But just so you understand, we're so propagandized in like this, what Robert Malone would call a mass formation psychosis that we would somehow believe this is even remotely acceptable that your employer is going to come and ask you about your intimate medical details.

01:13:24.000 I'm going to ask you first to pray, James 1:5.

01:13:26.000 Pray for wisdom, God will give it to you generously, right?

01:13:28.000 It's one of the few things that God will give you generously on demand, right?

01:13:31.000 Pray for wisdom and do what's best for your own.

01:13:34.000 And maybe there's another employee, maybe there's another job waiting for you.

01:13:37.000 Thankfully, there's one good thing for you.

01:13:39.000 Everyone's looking for workers right now, and wages are going up, right?

01:13:42.000 And so, that's the one good thing about people that are being forced to get vaccines is that there is a phenomenal job mobility opportunity right now.

01:13:50.000 And that's easier said than done because you might have a very specific skill, you might have benefits that you've worked to accrue.

01:13:56.000 But I would also, I wouldn't go down easily.

01:13:58.000 I would challenge, because if you're right at that 100 threshold, they are wrongly capitulating to a mandate, which, by the way, is likely going to get overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court, God willing, right?

01:14:09.000 And so it's been stayed in federal court, it got unstayed.

01:14:14.000 It's going to go up to the Supreme Court.

01:14:16.000 There was a great ruling out of a district judge, I believe, in Texas that came out today, praise God, that told a group of Navy SEALs they don't have to take the vaccine.

01:14:24.000 Phenomenal ruling, it's terrific.

01:14:26.000 And so, the momentum is going against these mandates.

01:14:30.000 And also, let me just add another wrinkle to it, is that even in the medical profession, they're backing away from it because this is looking, I got to be careful what I say.

01:14:39.000 Actually, I can't say this on the live stream.

01:14:41.000 Just do your research on whether or not it's working or not.

01:14:44.000 So that's all I can say about that because that's the tyranny I have to live under, the tyranny of the tech companies.

01:14:49.000 I just want to close by saying this.

01:14:50.000 The fact you're thinking about it is really important.

01:14:53.000 But understand, if your employer has about 100 employees, they need you.

01:14:57.000 And I guarantee you, you're not the only employee that's dealing with this.

01:15:00.000 And so I'm a default do not comply guy.

01:15:03.000 But when it comes to people's incomes and livelihoods, I'm careful not to give that blanket advice.

01:15:07.000 But I will say challenge and question, right?

01:15:10.000 Because the truth will always win.

01:15:11.000 And God bless you for what you're doing.

01:15:12.000 I really appreciate it.

01:15:17.000 Tomorrow night, Mary.

01:15:19.000 Yeah.

01:15:19.000 So do we have a Freedom Night date for February?

01:15:21.000 I don't know.

01:15:23.000 February 1st, February 1st.

01:15:25.000 We might have a special guest.

01:15:26.000 I'm working on that right now.

01:15:27.000 So we're working on that.

01:15:29.000 And so, but Luke, you just want to summarize some of those announcements tomorrow night.

01:15:32.000 You have the.

01:15:33.000 Yeah, so you're all invited tomorrow night for our all-in prayer and fasting night.

01:15:36.000 I think if you'll come, you'll just really fall in love with it.

01:15:39.000 It's going to be great.

01:15:39.000 And then Dream Conference, especially the young people, I encourage you to register because you're going to hear some of the greatest speakers in America today talk about visions and dreams and how to get a hold of a great dream for your life.

01:15:50.000 So if you don't know what God's calling or God's vision for your life is, come, you'll be really, really inspired.

01:15:56.000 Thank you so much for coming to us.

01:15:57.000 And just in closing, if you guys want to hear those podcasts, if that piqued your curiosity, you guys probably all follow it.

01:16:03.000 You've heard me plug it enough, Charlie Kirk Show podcast, the three-part series, Zolenko, McCullough, Malone.

01:16:08.000 I think it'll really bless you and empower you.

01:16:10.000 And maybe you have some friends that are legitimately scared right now around these issues.

01:16:14.000 I think it would actually kind of really bring some people back down to team reality.

01:16:18.000 And then please, next month, show up, bring a friend.

01:16:21.000 We're going to be announcing who we're coming and keep praying and fasting for the state of Arizona and our nation.

01:16:27.000 It's the rise of the citizen, everybody, and the collapse of the regime.

01:16:31.000 And truth is ascending.

01:16:33.000 God bless you guys.

01:16:33.000 What a great night.

01:16:34.000 Thank you so much.

01:16:39.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:16:40.000 Email us your thoughts.

01:16:41.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:16:43.000 And if you want to subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast, you know how to do that.

01:16:46.000 Very important.

01:16:47.000 Thanks so much.

01:16:48.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 09, 2022

A New Year, A New Vision — Freedom Square LIVE from Dream City Church

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