00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Julie Kelly and Molly Hemingway to talk about January 6th, talk about media censorship and more.
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00:01:25.000Julie, walk our audience through, from your perspective, the importance, the weight, and the significance of this footage now finally becoming public.
00:01:35.000I think the significance is that the American people are starting to come to terms with and realize that the carefully constructed narrative about January 6th isn't the real story.
00:01:48.000And that is why you see people like Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, et cetera, completely melting down this week, in addition to the national news media that Tucker had access to these hidden recordings that have not been, Charlie, not only not made available to the public, but to defendants and their attorneys.
00:02:18.00080% of Americans want to see all of the available video.
00:02:23.000And so I think that this is just part of the crumbling narrative that is nonetheless Charlie being used by this Department of Justice and FBI to destroy the lives of thousands of Americans, even for minimal involvement in the events of January 6th.
00:02:38.000So I played this tape last hour, but I find this to be unbelievably persuasive.
00:02:43.000And Julie, I think you'll enjoy hearing it.
00:02:46.000Cut 79 is Joe Rogan and Michael Malice reacting in real time.
00:02:51.000It's as if you had a private hidden camera of how they react to the footage that is now being made public to people that are not right-wing ideologues by any measure.
00:03:37.000And so I think people are just starting to recognize that it's not what you thought it was.
00:03:42.000So, Julie, that clip is very powerful.
00:03:46.000What is your reaction to not just that clip, but this idea that finally the American people can get educated and informed of what happened on January 6th?
00:03:56.000While you're at it, tell us about potential Brady violations as well.
00:04:00.000So, Charlie, that's very similar to the response that I got from a lot of people, even people who have been sort of following January 6th, that they were expecting some bombshells, but not to the level that what Tucker presented on Monday and Tuesday.
00:04:17.000When you see what happened with Jacob Chansley, completely railroaded by his Justice Department, get this, Charlie.
00:04:34.000On January 11th, five days later, a grand jury in Washington, D.C. handed down several crimes against Jacob Chansley.
00:04:43.000Five days later, it's like this was preset, ready to go.
00:04:48.000This DOJ, D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, had all of the charges collected that they were going to use against these people.
00:04:55.000I mean, that is pretty stunning, something that even I covered the case that I think is pretty illuminating.
00:05:01.000But I do think people were shocked at seeing Brian Sicknick, who even this week, Attorney General America Garland and the White House press secretary continue to lie about Brian Sicknick.
00:05:13.000So too did Charles Schumer on the Senate floor, saying that he died as a result of January 6th.
00:05:21.000I've covered this since February of 2021.
00:05:24.000He sadly, tragically, died at the age of 42 of a stroke caused by two blood clots near his brainstem.
00:05:31.000It had nothing to do with what happened on January 6th.
00:05:34.000And now we see that because he's walking around the building looking fine.
00:05:38.000He did not suffer the effects of being sprayed with pepper spray by one protester or being gassed by his own fellow police officers, which we know happened thanks to body worn camera footage.
00:05:53.000But Charlie, nonetheless, a man named Julian Cater was sentenced to 71 months in jail for allegedly spraying Brian Sicknick that afternoon.
00:06:02.000Brian Sicknick's mother, father, brother-in-law, and his ex-girlfriend submitted victim impact statements during before Julian Cater's sentencing, claiming that he was responsible for killing Brian Sicknick.
00:06:17.000They also blamed Donald Trump for that.
00:06:19.000This is the sort of farcical theater that's happening in this DC district courthouse.
00:06:24.000And as I told Tucker the other night, and I've said repeatedly, the real villains here are the judges in Washington, D.C., who are letting the DOJ get away with concealing evidence, using cherry-picked clips as evidence, and withholding this huge trove of surveillance video, which needs to be reminded.
00:06:44.000This is publicly paid-for security system for a public building that houses public employees.
00:06:52.000That footage technically belongs to us.
00:06:55.000It does not belong to the Capitol Police.
00:06:57.000It doesn't even belong to Congress or Speaker, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who does deserve a huge commendation for allowing Tucker's team to access that video.
00:07:08.000Now it's time to release the rest of it.
00:07:10.000Now, a lot of it won't have anything to do with what happened inside and outside, but we need to see it.
00:07:17.000The SickNick revelation is truly wild, but what they will say is: is it possible that the stroke that he suffered and died from was because of the stress of the event, or is there any other potential explanation?
00:07:47.000But there's other video of Brian Sicknick where he looks, you know, he's rinsing tear gas or pepper spray out of his eyes.
00:07:55.000He's walking around, he's trying to regroup.
00:07:57.000You know, he's not laying on the floor screaming.
00:07:59.000He looks like pretty chill about what's happening.
00:08:03.000And we know he went back and called his brother and said he got sprayed a couple of times, but that he was fine.
00:08:09.000So, the idea that somehow he was and he suffered the stroke that night, that he was so overcome by stress about what happened.
00:08:17.000When you clearly saw in that other video that he's sort of walking around like looking for something to do, just slides in the face of this narrative.
00:08:26.000And that's why it's so important to get all of this out.
00:08:30.000Because as I said, men have been charged in connection with his death.
00:08:34.000These people have been blamed for that.
00:08:36.000We also have claims of other police officers who were injured.
00:08:40.000You know, this is part of the material that the government uses as incriminating evidence against January 6th defendants that all of them are responsible for harming police officers.
00:08:52.000So I think people are waking up not just to the idea that the government has withheld this evidence, but also the result of this cover-up sham.
00:09:04.000And that is innocent people like Jacob Chansley lives being destroyed and languishing in prison for 41 months to support this fight-in regime and DOJ's narrative about January 6th.
00:09:16.000I want everybody to check out Julie Kelly's book.
00:09:18.000The book is January 6th: How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
00:09:25.000One of the most important subtitles of any book, because let's just reem, let's just emphasize this.
00:09:31.000They used the narrative of the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against us.
00:09:39.000That's why they network this is why they are so upset about this footage being made public because maybe the war on terror should not be a war at all.
00:09:51.000Ask yourself, why is Chuck Yu Schumer so mad?
00:09:54.000It's because the basis, the validation for Patriot Act 2.0 is disintegrating and they become less powerful because of it.
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00:11:33.000The next step, Charlie, I think is for House Republicans to form their own January 6th Select Committee.
00:11:39.000I understand that the oversight committee or judiciary or the newly formed weaponization committee could try to tackle this, but this is such a massive problem, so many levels that involves the Department of Justice, the FBI, the DCUS Attorney's Office, and more importantly, the DC District Court.
00:12:00.000We really need leadership from congressional Republicans to hire up staffers and investigators who cannot just investigate what happened, but force these people finally some public accountability.
00:12:14.000We need to see these people explain to the American people, Judge Tim Kelly, why you're keeping nonviolent offenders behind bars for two years.
00:12:23.000We need to find out why House Democrats kept this 44,000 hour trove out of the hands, not just of the FBI, but certainly obstructing justice.
00:12:37.000House Democrats have obstructed justice, the rights of defendants, by keeping all of this video under wraps with House Democrat committees.
00:12:48.000And that's how Kevin McCarthy got his hands on it.
00:12:50.000But that's what we need, our own select committee, because you're right, Charlie, people are outraged by this.
00:12:57.000And I'll tell you, there's still a lot of Republicans out there who won't touch this with the 10-foot poll.
00:13:10.000They're complicit in denying the due process rights of American citizens.
00:13:17.000They are complicit by what they're doing.
00:13:20.000And Mitt Romney, who took a knee and marched with BLM and said he supported BLM when they were burning down cities, attacking police officers, killing people across the country, for him to say one word in defense of what this regime is doing.
00:13:36.000These people really are just shameful, tear point, cowards.
00:14:14.000Had this been watered down with hundreds or thousands of people combing through it, a lot of people who aren't familiar with the events of January 6th, what to look for.
00:14:23.000There certainly are some, but there's not a lot.
00:14:26.000And then flooding the zone, it would have minimized the impact of what we see happening this week.
00:14:31.000So this was the right approach, but now it's time to turn over the tapes to everyone and let us take a look and identify some of the things that Tucker said he couldn't really, which was agitators or people who look like they had been hired to open doors, lead people through the Capitol.
00:14:49.000We certainly know that FBI informants were involved months before January 6th.
00:14:53.000So that's an issue that probably I'm more interested in is seeing unknown, unidentified, more importantly, uncharged people who are helping to instigate the events of that day.
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00:16:26.000Molly, I want to get your initial reaction for our audience, something I so enjoyed on Twitter, where Mr. Thompson says he never actually reviewed the security footage himself.
00:16:38.000Chairman of the January 6th Select Committee on the Attack on the Capitol never actually looked at the footage itself.
00:16:50.000I thought this was an absolutely stunning admission.
00:16:53.000It comes after Tucker Carlson released and showed some footage that was very interesting about the January 6th protest and riot and how what we had been told about it does not match with some of this footage in very specific ways.
00:17:08.000And in response, the chairman of the so-called January 6th committee says he actually never had access to this footage, which is a really weird thing to say because he, as chairman with Liz Cheney, his co-chairman, showed footage from this.
00:18:14.000It's not, it's almost, and for him to admit it is what's so also just extraordinary.
00:18:20.000If nothing else comes out of this Tucker Carlson footage that was shown, but this admission that the whole, you know, the admission from the chairman of the committee that the whole thing was kind of a sham, that's a that's a sufficient enough result of the process.
00:18:34.000So one thing that was interesting is that this J6 committee, hand-selected by Nancy Pelosi for political purposes to control the midterm elections, was that they turned over access of this footage, which they admit that they didn't actually have access to.
00:18:49.000They turned it over to ABC News producers who they hired to make like a really good show.
00:18:56.000And so this week we're told that the worst thing in the history of the world is that Kevin McCarthy gave access to a Fox News journalist to report on this footage.
00:19:06.000Well, that's what the J6 committee did, except they turned it over to these, you know, so-called ABC News producer types so that they could make a dramatic show, a made-for-television show that Tucker has now revealed was fraudulent.
00:19:19.000You know, they added audio that wasn't there.
00:19:22.000They manipulated and deceptively edited the video to make it look like Josh Hawley had fled the scene when in reality he was part of a group of senators who were escorted from one room to another room.
00:19:35.000There were all these things they were doing to deceive the American people, and they were doing it with the help of these hired TV professionals to make it a really good show for gullible people.
00:19:48.000It's so extraordinary in more ways than one.
00:19:55.000You know, so many people are emailing us, freedom at charliekirk.com, saying, Molly, we know this, we know this.
00:20:01.000There's nothing new that we are learning this week.
00:20:03.000But Molly, I do push back on some of these people, say, well, you guys might be ahead of the curve because you watch this program and you watch Tucker Carlson.
00:20:10.000But Molly, the consensus has been up until this week that this was the worst attack since the Civil War.
00:20:19.000People are actually, because they're seeing the truth, starting to wake up with this.
00:20:22.000Talk about, Molly, just how important it is to question this narrative because they've used the narrative to then justify other hyper-aggressive measures from the federal government.
00:20:36.000This is important on a variety of levels.
00:20:39.000So when I watched on Monday night, I thought, this is very interesting.
00:20:43.000And I say this as someone who's followed this story closely, but I thought it was all within the realm of what I might expect to see if I had access to the footage.
00:20:52.000When the next day you got this completely hysterical response from everybody, I realized how important it was to just show these basic facts.
00:21:02.000Many of us who have studied this issue or reported on this issue, we already knew some of these things.
00:21:07.000But there had been such narrative control over what you're allowed to say or know about the January 6th event that when someone broke through that, all heck broke loose in both parties, you might note.
00:21:21.000And was really struck by what something that Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell said.
00:21:27.000So Chuck Schumer says, I would like to censor Fox News and I would like to have everyone's help in censoring Fox News.
00:21:34.000And the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell, who's supposedly the head of the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., he does not tell this guy that that is a horrific attack on the First Amendment.
00:21:45.000He says it was a mistake to show the American people footage that was at odds with the official government line.
00:21:51.000He literally said, it's a mistake to show something at variance with what the official government narrative is.
00:21:58.000This is terrifying type stuff, but also shows the power of just showing people with their, you know, so they can watch with their own eyes, make their own determination.
00:22:07.000Was this in fact the worst moment in human history?
00:22:11.000Or was it a protest about a shoddy election that was poorly run with many changes to rules, some of which were, you know, rushed through or done through in very unconstitutional fashion with the infiltration of big tech and big media into election meddling with the Zuckerberg funds that took over government election offices to make blue areas of swing states vote more Democratic, more Democrat Party?
00:22:38.000Like, was it a protest about those things that got out of hand, or was it the worst moment in human history?
00:22:43.000And Tucker, by showing some of this footage that is at odds with the official narrative, as Mitch McConnell says, helps people realize that it's the reaction to the January 6th event and riot, you know, when nobody supports riot, riotous behavior or violence like this, the political violence, but was the reaction to it where people's free speech was limited, freedom of the press was limited, where lawyers can't represent these clients, where if you do represent a client, you might get a disbarment effort,
00:23:11.000where all this type of hysteria is also part of the conversation.
00:23:15.000And now it really is part of the conversation.
00:24:27.000But we were actually watching cherry-picked edited videos this entire time.
00:24:31.000Well, what's amazing here is that Tucker Carlson made very specific, he raised very specific issues related to video, which I agree with Corinne John Pierre.
00:24:41.000You just have to watch the video and then you can ask your questions yourself.
00:24:45.000But these were specific claims made, such as that, you know, Buffalo Hat guy was given a tour sort of of the Capitol interior where nine different police officers could have easily arrested him and nobody was even trying.
00:25:00.000They were opening up locked doors for him or trying to, you know, giving him tours of the chamber.
00:25:04.000So you notice Queen John Pierre nor anyone else responds in substance to this video.
00:25:09.000She just sort of waves her hand around and says, you're not allowed to watch that video.
00:25:13.000Watch the videos that we cherry-picked for you.
00:25:15.000Or the claim about Josh Hawley actually being part of an evacuation effort that was not just for him.
00:25:20.000Nobody's responding to that in substance.
00:25:23.000They want to use the deceptively edited clip to go after him for political reasons.
00:25:28.000Or, you know, one of the more important things too was that that mysterious protester, Ray Epps, who's on video telling people that they have to enter the Capitol building, that they need to go in there, but has somehow been viewed as an ally of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and Nancy Pelosi.
00:25:42.000They have evidence that he was not where he said he was when he gave it, sent a text saying that he was responsible for the protest.
00:25:50.000Now, what's the substantive response to that?
00:25:52.000If you instead say, Tucker Carlson is dangerous for showing this evidence, but you don't respond to the substance, that is very suspicious, in my view.
00:26:29.000They're against every aspect of the First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion.
00:26:35.000They don't want people even having access to information to be able to determine truth, which is basically the most important founding American principle out there, probably.
00:26:44.000And yet they started going against some of these things in recent decades.
00:26:50.000And the more they got control over the institutions, the more important it became for them to exert that control by limiting people's speech and press rights.
00:26:58.000Yeah, and it's just been fascinating to see because one of their big complaints against Donald Trump is that he was an enemy of the press or that he was against free speech.
00:27:08.000But free speech has never been a left-wing value.
00:27:11.000It's been a liberal value, but it's never been critical to the American left.
00:27:16.000In fact, they've always been annoyed by speech they do not like.
00:27:19.000I want to play some tape here from some of that exchange with Matt Taibbi.
00:27:23.000And they're doing everything they possibly can to go after Elon Musk.
00:27:28.000It is a focused campaign to try to go after Elon Musk and to try to cancel him.
00:28:13.000But Molly, here they are calling Taibbi a so-called journalist, asking him to reveal his sources.
00:28:21.000This is an extraordinary political development.
00:28:23.000You know, people would say that when President Trump criticized shoddy media, that that was a threat on the First Amendment.
00:28:31.000And here you have actual sitting members of Congress trying to bully someone into revealing a source that doesn't even need, I mean, there's not really like a national security or other reason that you can even pretend to justify it somehow.
00:28:45.000They're attacking, they're supporting the government's role in suppressing journalism or censoring actual journalistic stories or news outlets or discussion of journalistic stories.
00:29:00.000They have actual attacks on the press.
00:29:02.000And you have, you know, what the FTC is doing with trying to get Elon Musk to reveal any journalists he spoke to.
00:29:08.000And boy, the media are super silent about all this.
00:29:12.000They said a critique of bad journalism.
00:29:14.000Like you make up a story and someone gets mad at you.
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