Pastor Robert Furrow and Frank Turek join me at Calvary Chapel in Tucson, Arizona to talk about the pro-life movement and the need for courageous men and women to take a stand in the public arena and fight for freedom on campuses across the country. This is a must listen. Pastor Robert and Frank are two of the most courageous and courageous people I know and I am so proud to have them as guests on my show, The Charlie Kirk Show, hosted by Pastor Robert Furlow and Frank Turkek. This episode is sponsored by Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investing at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is where I buy all of my gold. That's where I Buy All of My Gold. That is Noble Gold Investment Investments at NobleGoldInvestments. com/TheCharlieKirkShow and become a member today. That s where you get 20% off your first order of gold! That s Noble Gold Investor at Noblegold.com/The_Charlie_Kirk Show. This is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk show, and it s where I'm the official Gold Sponsor of the show. . Go to noblegold.investments at Noble Gold to receive a 20% discount when you buy a piece of gold and receive 10% off the total value of $100 or more! at $200 or more at $300 or more, and you get 10% OFF your first year of your investment in the company, and 20% OFF THE PRIVATE PRICYER at $250 or $500 or more when you become a Member of the Company. You get 5% OFF + 1% OFF the Club. The Club gets a FREE PRICING offer when you sign up for a year, and receive $5,000 or $10,000 in the Club gets 5% off their first year, they get the offer of $25,000, they also get a VIP discount when they receive the offer, and they get 5, they can receive $50, they receive 5,000% OFF $4,000 and they also receive $10% OFF, they'll get $25% OFF. They also get VIP access to the show at the Club Rate, and all other options, and the Club can get 10,000 VIP access and VIP access.
00:00:00.000Hey everybody, my conversation at Calvary Chapel, Tucson with Pastor Robert Furrow and Frank Turek as we fight for pro-life, and also I make the case for President Trump and the key battleground state of Arizona.
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00:01:27.000I don't have much to add to that, but I just want to say thank you to Pastor Robert for hosting this.
00:01:32.000We need more churches to take bold stands right now.
00:01:36.000And the most important thing that we can do is to bring people to Jesus Christ.
00:01:43.000The second most important thing is what?
00:01:46.000To make sure we can do the first thing.
00:01:48.000To make sure that the church is never deemed non-essential again.
00:01:51.000To make sure that marijuana clinics and abortion clinics are deemed essential when they try to lock down the Bride of Christ.
00:01:58.000So my job is to focus on the second thing mostly.
00:02:01.000Now I go to college campuses, so you don't have to.
00:02:04.000Just the other day, I was at University of Wisconsin-Madison, sharing the gospel, talking about conservative values.
00:02:10.000We saw a lot of those red hats, by the way, as well, on campus.
00:02:13.000And we go and play offense in places where Christians and conservatives do not always go.
00:02:18.000And if we are serious about fighting for the unborn, if we are serious about honoring God, we as Christians must no longer be spectators, but instead must be participants in taking back this country.
00:02:33.000We can no longer just look from afar, and Jesus is on his throne.
00:04:56.000We talk about this all the time, which is we are here in a state that will determine the future of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:05:07.000The problem in front of us is most Christians don't care.
00:05:11.000Most Christians are indifferent about the future of America.
00:05:14.000I believe you look at the parable of the talents.
00:05:17.000You look at the parables of those who are given a lot, much is expected.
00:05:20.000We have been given a lot living in America.
00:05:22.000And God will judge us based on whether or not we are thankful and preserve and protect this great nation, or whether we just kind of cast it aside and say, yeah, America doesn't matter.
00:05:32.000For those of you that have traveled the world, we should be kissing the ground saying, thank you, God Almighty, that we live in this great country.
00:05:40.000Thank you, Lord, that we live in this country.
00:05:42.000But instead, pastors say, that's too controversial.
00:06:59.000Tell me, please, I'll give you the mic, how you think that someone who loves the Lord, loves what God commands, could vote for someone who, just in that one example, used the California Attorney General's office and deployed the secret police against pro-life groups.
00:07:11.000We are here to honor Hands of Hope tonight, by the way, and all of you should donate to Hands of Hope, and you have envelopes there.
00:07:56.000Because, imagine, If we kind of sit around and we don't do our job, she will send the Department of Justice and the IRS after these amazing Pregnancy Resource Centers.
00:08:08.000By the way, we have to do a better job of bragging on the great work that Hands of Hope and Pregnancy Resource Centers do, of these women that get in these situations and they know in their soul I don't wanna have an abortion.
00:08:20.000And they need someone to love on them, to show them the direction, to show them that there's a way forward, that when they have the baby, they're gonna have diapers and toys and support.
00:08:28.000Pregnancy Resource Centers, the 3,000 Pregnancy Resource Centers, are some of the most important ministries happening in the country.
00:08:35.000We should be celebrating them, not wanting to make them illegal, like Kamala Harris has been saying.
00:08:40.000On that issue alone, it should motivate you.
00:08:43.000But I'll say one final thing, then I'll bring Pastor Robert and Frank back here for questions.
00:08:47.000Many times people say, boy, if I would have lived through slavery, I would have spoke out against it.
00:08:53.000If I would have lived through slavery, I would have had moral clarity.
00:09:06.000Every day in Arizona, thousands of young prepubescent girls, ages 8 to 13, are being sex trafficked across the southern border and sold as prostitutes in this country.
00:09:17.000According to our own government, this number is probably low, there are 320,000 children that we know of that are missing in the interior United States in just the last four years.
00:09:52.000We watch football games and hope it gets better, but we're easily lecturing about what we would have done a hundred years ago.
00:09:59.000You're living through a time for choosing right now.
00:10:01.000And the time for choosing is, hey, we don't want to see kids sex trafficked across our border.
00:10:05.000We don't want to see the drugs in our communities.
00:10:07.000We don't want to see churches be shut down erroneously.
00:10:10.000We want to see a fight for the unborn.
00:10:11.000We also, by the way, believe that men are men and women are women, this really controversial thing.
00:10:16.000The question is, for those of us that love the Lord, that came here tonight to glorify Him,
00:10:29.000will we also do the work to get out the vote, to register fellow voters?
00:10:34.000Because right here in Pima County, let me tell you the open secret, this church, 2,500 plus people here tonight, This single room could make us lose by less here in Pima County and could make us flip Arizona from a Kamala Harris state to a state that would be for freedom and liberty and would vote for President Donald Trump.
00:11:04.000We have just created a pretty simple binary for you.
00:11:07.000It's one that has very little confusion in the gray area, because the enemy wants you to sit at home and do nothing.
00:11:14.000Because I could tell you what's happening right now.
00:11:16.000Down the street, the Planned Parenthoods, the abortion clinics, and what's happening at University of Arizona, they're going out and getting the vote, they're mobilizing, they're chasing ballots.
00:11:25.000Why don't those of us, with a joyful spirit, honoring God Almighty, who loved Jesus Christ, the next 60 days, show the rest of the world that we care for those that can't fight for themselves.
00:11:38.000And I'll tell you what, we will send a message around the world That we are going to stand for truth and for righteousness and for biblical principles.
00:11:47.000And we can think back to this night, that it all started at a night for hope in Pima County in Tucson, Arizona, where everyone said it was a waste of time and it's so blue you can't see anything.
00:12:32.000Anyway, for Charlie, I enjoy your college campus ministry, and do you get a feeling of how many people maybe you've turned around to come and sing?
00:12:52.000The biggest problem that we have when we go to a college campus is we cannot find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our on-campus events.
00:14:02.000That's the baseline, that's the minimum.
00:14:05.000You can find a hundred other people that agree with you at University of Arizona, which they are there, and you can be responsible for making sure they vote and vote early.
00:14:13.000And then finally, as long as you're cool with getting bad grades, which grades really mean nothing, because standing for truth matters a lot more than getting a good grade.
00:14:25.000You can speak up whenever you see something that is wrong or an error.
00:15:11.000And so many bad ideas come out of the college campus, so we want to throw a lifeline to people.
00:15:16.000I know Charlie wants to do that, I want to do that.
00:15:19.000We want to encourage the Christians, put a stone in the shoe of the skeptics, and get people thinking better.
00:15:24.000So wherever you are, I know there's Christian groups on campus, even if you can't find a TPUSA, but there's got to be one at University of Arizona, right?
00:15:32.000There's a really good chapter at U of A. Join and get involved!
00:17:21.000Because of the toxins in our food, and because of the poisoning, In our country, infertility is at record rates, and so therefore IVF is the only option for a lot of people, unfortunately.
00:17:34.000Not unfortunately, unfortunately, just the way it is.
00:17:37.000But I do think that there needs to be a biblical caution that if we think we can just create life in a laboratory, we are flirting with something probably very, very dangerous, and acting and being like God.
00:20:40.000So, um, but so I'm just let me ask a question, though.
00:20:44.000So the Democrat attorney general in Arizona won by 250 votes, and she's trying to indict everyday citizens and grandmas for signing a piece of paper for defrauding the 2020 election.
00:20:57.000Do you think that is a good use of time?
00:20:58.000Or should she should be spending it more on cartels and drug traffickers in our neighborhoods?
00:21:04.000I'm curious, because she's spending millions of dollars going after 75-year-old women with type 2 diabetes that have no money, trying to put them in prison for 30 years.
00:21:15.000Do you think that's a good use of taxpayer money here in the state of Arizona?
00:21:19.000We should condemn all fraud in this country, especially those... So you think signing a piece of paper because Arizona was still in contention is a bigger priority than kids overdosing from fentanyl in Tucson and Scottsdale?
00:21:34.000Okay, but she's not going after the drug traffickers.
00:21:37.000She's going after grandmas with MAGA hats that signed a piece of paper as if they're a threat to democracy.
00:21:45.000And I think that you complimented Frank Turek because you said you changed your life.
00:21:49.000I think you should examine the contradiction in your own statement here, which is like, you think fraud should be stamped out because you have a heart for justice, right?
00:21:59.000Right, so maybe you should have a heart for justice for all the dead kids in this state because Chris Mays will not use the Arizona Attorney General's office to go after the drug trafficking and the child sex trafficking.
00:22:11.000Can you name a single thing that she has done to secure the southern border in this state?
00:22:19.000She's too busy trying to put my COO in prison, and people that disagree with her politically, she's acting like a Moscow show trial police Gestapo enforcer, not a duly elected Arizona Attorney General.
00:22:46.000Thank you for coming and seeing us today.
00:22:48.000We really appreciate it, and I'm a little nervous.
00:22:51.000I want to thank Christ for redeeming me from my sins.
00:22:56.000Although, especially after your presentation, I would certainly take my time in the lake of fire.
00:23:02.000I would like to also, based on the comment here with the young man, remind us that Pope John Paul II, during World Youth Day, said, Do not let hope die.
00:23:40.000But you know what, you had said something before I was going to speak that I wanted to comment on, which is an absolute truth that women, there's liberal women, there's a lot of women out there that want to have abortions, and I think that there are some reasons behind it that maybe A lot of folks got to think about and that's the single mom rate that we have.
00:24:07.000So you said there's a lot of conservative men and I'm just wondering what more we're doing to encourage men to have a culture of commitment.
00:24:21.000So, first, men need to no longer be boys and they need to become men.
00:24:25.000And we need to have a culture that allows men to grow up.
00:24:31.000Young ladies, and I'll allow the pastor and Frank to say this, young ladies also should prioritize having a family over a career, and it's a mistake when they put a career in front of a family.
00:24:42.000And that should not be a controversial thing to say.
00:24:46.000And one of the reasons you're seeing the separation of right-wing men and left-wing women is left-wing women want to become girl bosses and run the shoe company, when men find that deeply unattractive.
00:25:00.000We want to be part of a society or a community that prioritizes family formation, so on and so forth.
00:25:07.000And what we have seen is a bunch of early 30-something women that are the most liberal left-wing voting bloc with great careers, good condos in Scottsdale, and cats.
00:26:43.000Hey guys, we know from God's Word it's clear that God hates the shedding of innocent blood, and that we're supposed to stand for the defenseless and the innocent, and we always call the left out.
00:26:57.000But why is it that many pastors and conservatives never call the right, when the Supreme Court, Trump, Vance, recently said they won't overturn the abortion pill?
00:27:09.000And Trump constantly criticizes early abortion bans instead of taking a 100% stand and say, hey, it's wrong to kill babies no matter what stage.
00:27:19.000And also... Let me say something to that because Ben Shapiro said something maybe six years ago and I thought it was very insightful on this.
00:27:28.000He said, do not pay attention to what Trump says, pay attention to what Trump does.
00:27:56.000When he was debating President Biden... Do you know what Trump said verbally that everybody's thinking?
00:28:02.000He started talking about abortion and he said, but you gotta get elected!
00:28:07.000He kept saying that over and over again, and what he did, I thought in that debate, is he skillfully flipped the script on Biden by talking about, Mr. President, you're the real extremist on the issue.
00:28:23.000You want abortion to the moment of birth, and you want the government to pay for it.
00:28:30.000Trump, Charlie, you can pick it up here, because you say this more articulately than I can.
00:33:06.000If the person that's on there isn't a Christian, and I wouldn't agree with them 100% about everything, and wouldn't agree with them about abortion, I would vote for that person.
00:33:14.000Because we need to put a government in place that we will be subject to.
00:33:19.000Because as Christians, we're subject to that government.
00:33:25.000If we see to the other side that we do not agree with, that we do not want, we don't want human trafficking taking place.
00:33:33.000As Christians, how could we possibly want human trafficking of women and girls taking place in the United States?
00:33:40.000And just because the other side is a Christian doesn't mean we don't vote for them.
00:34:07.000What matters is we have the responsibility in the government of the United States to be able to vote and to be able to pick the people we will subject ourselves to.
00:34:16.000If that is Kamala Harris, if that's the other side, we're going to be doing a lot of things.
00:34:21.000We're going to be submitting to a government that's going to be allowing a lot of things like shutting down crisis pregnancy centers.
00:34:29.000So you can't make your decision based upon Christians.
00:34:33.000Narrow is the way that leads to life, broad is the way that leads to destruction.
00:34:37.000And we are in the midst of the world, but we're to subject ourselves to the government that's put into place by God.
00:34:43.000And so we subject ourselves to that government, and if we have to vote for a non-believer, then we'll vote for a non-believer, because we're not voting for Jesus.
00:35:40.000No, um... It's not even correct biblically what that gentleman said.
00:35:47.000Jesus, in Matthew 19, is asked, Why then did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?
00:35:57.000Jesus replied, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard, but it was not this way from the beginning.
00:36:08.000Translation, God even worked incrementally with Israel.
00:36:17.000There are times when you can't get everything you want.
00:36:23.000And God took a culture, an ancient Near East culture, that was so depraved that he knew he couldn't get their obedience if he went a hundred percent in one direction.
00:36:38.000He wanted to bring them along incrementally.
00:36:41.000And the only way in this country that abortion is going to go away is if we bring it along incrementally.
00:36:48.000You're not going to get elected right now claiming no abortions, no exceptions, except life of the mother.
00:36:55.000And so, despite the fact that I think President Trump's rhetoric wasn't helpful when he said that, he's right that he's not going to be able to do anything unless he gets elected.
00:37:07.000If I were Donald Trump and I was asked, if this pro-life legislation came to your desk, would you sign it?
00:37:13.000I would say this, if that pro-life legislation got to my desk, that would mean the people wanted it.
00:37:21.000Because it wouldn't get to me unless they wanted it.
00:37:25.000And if they did want it, I would sign it.
00:37:28.000But we all know that's not going to happen.
00:37:30.000So what we have to do is change hearts and minds.
00:37:34.000And eventually, perhaps, we will get there.
00:37:37.000But, sir, your question is for my opponent.
00:37:40.000Is she going to ban abortions up to the moment of birth?
00:38:16.000But he said, when you choose a king, he's going to take your children, he's going to take your men for war, he's going to do all of these things.
00:39:00.000So my question is, several years ago, California voted against gay marriage.
00:39:06.000The Ninth Circuit of fools overturned what the people voted for.
00:39:11.000So if this goes the way we want, How are we to prevent the court from overturning that?
00:39:21.000What a great question and a really good segue.
00:39:23.000If Kamala Harris wins, she will pack the Supreme Court with people who will then reverse row back to where it was and they would get away any sort of state sovereignty.
00:39:35.000This is another reason to be incremental about this.
00:39:38.000She says that she will put justices that believe that you have a national right to abortion.
00:39:45.000So the 14 states that have currently outlawed abortion, she will put justices on the Supreme Court to reverse those 14 states that have now outlawed abortion.
00:39:54.000Make sure we have more people like Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, and vote for the Supreme Court.
00:39:59.000Don't just vote for the presidency, everybody.
00:40:02.000Voting for the Supreme Court is incredibly important for religious liberty, for freedom of speech.
00:40:07.000But yes, the Obergefell decision that you talk about, Which was the decision that overturned state sovereignty when it came to homosexual marriage, was done because of a left-wing activist court that does not believe in states' rights or state sovereignty.
00:40:22.000Donald Trump showed us, when he was president, he picked phenomenal justices.
00:40:27.000He did what he said he was going to do.
00:40:43.000Do you know that we would still have mask mandates on planes and in government buildings if it wasn't for his judges?
00:40:49.000Upheld decisions that the church cannot be called non-essential as those decisions worked its way up to the Supreme Court.
00:40:55.000They made a landmark decision saying, and Clarence Thomas wrote the opinion, even during a medical crisis, the Constitution does not go away and religious freedom does not disappear.
00:41:17.000It's nice to, it's an absolute blessing to have you guys here.
00:41:19.000I've been looking forward to this since I found out two weeks ago.
00:41:22.000Um, so my original question, I'm going to change it because I'm really curious to hear your guys' opinion on when we're bold to others, like how direct can we be?
00:41:31.000Because I've had a lot of times where people call me very arrogant just because I'm straight to the facts.
00:42:44.000And they think they have rights to certain things.
00:42:46.000Do you know if there is no God, there are no rights?
00:42:49.000There's not only no right to abortion, there's no right to life.
00:42:52.000There's not only no right to same-sex marriage, there's no right to natural marriage.
00:42:55.000There's no trans rights, human rights, Christian rights.
00:42:58.000There are no rights, period, unless God exists, yet people will stand at the microphone and claim they have a certain right, and then when I ask them by what moral standard, they don't have an answer.
00:43:08.000So you should always try and uncover the assumption behind the question by asking questions.
00:43:14.000And Jesus asked, what, 300 questions or something in the New Testament?
00:43:57.000I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse.
00:44:02.000And my question is, given the complex and evolving situation in Israel and the broader Middle East, how do you believe the United States should navigate its relationship with Israel, balancing both national security interests and the growing calls for a more nuanced approach for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
00:44:22.000Yeah, yeah, I'll go ahead and start with it.
00:44:24.000So, God promised Israel that he was going to bless those who bless him.
00:44:29.000God promised that out of his descendants was going to come one person who blessed the entire world.
00:44:34.000So there's a Jew named Jesus, Yahshua, who has blessed the entire world, and he came out of Israel.
00:44:42.000And God made a lot of promises to Israel, and God's going to fulfill those promises to them.
00:44:47.000Now, in the meantime, if you go back, do some homework, go to Ezekiel 36, read 36, 7, 8, and 9, and then get to the end of it.
00:44:55.000So you're gonna see them restore the nation, the land, the people to the land, and then they become a nation, and then there's a war.
00:45:02.000And in the end of that war, the people of Israel come back to Christ.
00:45:07.000So right now, they're not serving their Messiah.
00:45:09.000Do you know now there are more Jews that are Christians than at any other time?
00:45:12.000There's about a million Jews who are Christians today.
00:45:15.000That's more than any other time in the entire world.
00:45:28.000From the Old Testament, Zechariah 12.10, I will pour out a spirit of grace and mercy on Jerusalem and they will mourn for me as one who mourns for an only son when they saw me pierced in Jerusalem.
00:46:47.000And the evidence to that, by the way, is that you're living for Him.
00:46:49.000So if you're not living for Jesus, if you say, I'm a Christian, but you're not doing the things He wants you to do, I'm not saying you're perfect, That's the evidence that we really do know him and that'll be the evidence when Israel has come back to him.
00:47:04.000This was a horrible event a year ago that happened that brought Israel into this horrible thing.
00:47:09.000Hamas is hiding among children and hospitals and all kinds of things and this is being reported on one way in the media and we're like, I'm talking about the American people.
00:48:35.000He moved the embassy to Jerusalem, he recognized Golan Heights, he got rid of the pay-for-slay policy, he restricted funding to Hamas, he put Iran on defense, he did more Iranian sanctions, he had the Abraham Accords, peace in the Middle East between Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates, and there was no war between Israel and Gaza, Israel a Palestinian authority.
00:48:59.000We were getting closer to a historic peace deal.
00:49:02.000October 7th never would have happened if President Trump Trump was president. This was one of the most avoidable
00:50:07.000I was well on the way to being a girl boss and having a cat and living by myself and saying I don't need no men and then I ended up accidentally going to America Fest in 2022 and I met a guy And I knew that that was a man who had a fire for Christ and had a fire for the truth.
00:50:33.000And there was nothing that was going to sway him from that path.
00:50:35.000And I knew I needed a change if I wanted to keep him in my life.
00:50:39.000So for an entire year, while I drove from Surprise to Tucson to come see him once a week, for two and a half hours, I would spend listening to every single Turning Point video I could possibly find.
00:50:57.000On one of those drives, I decided I wanted to become a mother.
00:51:02.000And in April of this year, I married that man.
00:51:20.000Thank you so much for everything that you guys do.
00:51:23.000This is what you guys do, and I am so proud to be able to continually represent my church and my political party, and just know we're fighting for the truth because we're fighting for Christ.
00:55:17.000I'm a 17-year-old senior at Canyon Delaware High School, and I'm going to be a freshman next year at the U of A. I just got my acceptance letter.
00:55:30.000Thank you for how much you do for not just my generation, for all generations out there and upcoming generations.
00:55:36.000You've had such a big impact on me and my family and helping me see the right views and you just have become such a big support in my life.
00:55:45.000And I thank you so much for fighting for my country and helping all of us fight against abortion.
00:56:23.000First, I'd like to thank each of you, Mr. Kirk, Mr. Furrow, and Mr. Turek for coming out here and speaking.
00:56:29.000And this question is specifically for Mr. Turek to answer.
00:56:34.000So, first, after coming here and listening, I was talking a bit to the woman Women Speak Out pact, and I feel very passionate about saving the babies and being pro-life.
00:56:46.000So I just had a question on personal advice, answering the tough questions on saving the babies regarding rape and incest cases, which I know probably isn't the majority of the abortion cases.
00:57:50.000In fact, I was at Michigan State, this had to be 15 years ago, and I was going through the I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist presentation, and I knew there was a militant atheist in the audience, but he sat through the entire presentation looking like this.
00:58:07.000I mean, he didn't crack a smile once, and I had some pretty good jokes in there.
00:58:11.000Anyway, as soon as the Q&A started, his hand shot up, and I said, yes sir, and he said, if there is a good God, why doesn't he stop all the evil in the world?
00:58:21.000I said, sir, that is an excellent question.
00:58:24.000Maybe because if he did, he might start with you.
01:01:38.000Anyways, the next question is more of like a kind of, honestly, a darker question.
01:01:44.000I'm someone who graduated from public school, and as much as I enjoyed it sometimes, some of the curriculum that I saw that really has been spoken out about, but this is like curriculum that I don't think people know about.
01:01:57.000And it was my senior year where my teacher passed out an assignment that was pretty much Making us write something positive about all these leftist things, and one of them was transitioning as a minor, having to write something positive about it.
01:02:12.000And me seeing that, I'm like, if they're giving this out to seniors, are they giving this out to people who are even younger?
01:02:19.000Like in elementary school, middle school?
01:02:21.000So my question is, how do we start to combat that?
01:02:26.000Because obviously we see that in the universities and see that in public school.
01:02:31.000Like, what are the steps to start combating that?
01:05:18.000I was driving to our staff meeting back in the 90s, and on Tuesday morning, and I'm listening to Dr. James Dobson.
01:05:29.000And he talked about going into the prison and meeting with Jeffrey Dahmer.
01:05:34.000Now, Jeffrey Dahmer was the homosexual cannibal, and a friend of mine says, you don't have to say homosexual cannibal, you can just say cannibal.
01:06:39.000They tortured him on that cross because that's for every sin that's ever been committed from any rapist and pedophile and cannibal that's out there.
01:06:49.000If I were the God of the universe, would I do that?
01:07:08.000Let me take a moment before this night goes too much longer, alright?
01:07:10.000So we're going to do another thing, but I just want to give you guys, because I realize that some of you here don't know Christ, okay?
01:07:16.000You've never invited Christ into your life.
01:07:19.000So the Bible says that in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, that I'm going to give you what I received, that you received and you stood on and you were saved by.
01:08:38.000Because you can't say things when a bunch of people are still alive, like he appeared to 500 people and people go, no he didn't, no he wasn't there.
01:09:17.000The Bible says, Whom God foreknew, he predestined.
01:09:21.000The Bible says that God knew about us beforehand, so He chose us.
01:09:25.000So if you give your life to Christ tonight, God knew you would give your life to Him tonight, and He chose you, and He's got a plan for you.
01:09:31.000He predestined your life from this point forward, because God knows everything that happens, and He knew tonight that you would give your life to Christ.
01:09:38.000So, don't secure the next 8 years, or 12 years, and not secure your eternity.
01:09:45.000I'm not telling you either-or, I'm saying secure your eternity.
01:15:18.000I was at a college in Oklahoma and a young woman got up there to the microphone and said, I can't believe in a good God because he kills people in the Old Testament.
01:15:26.000And I said, hey, where are you on the abortion issue?
01:15:32.000Why is it that when God plays God in the Old Testament and decides who lives and dies, he's immoral, but when you play God here on earth and decide who lives and dies with regard to abortion, that's your moral right?
01:16:24.000And it's got a burn line right in the exact time that it was supposed to have happened.
01:16:29.000We're living in a time of the greatest archaeological discoveries that speak about what happened in the Bible and what God did in judgment.
01:16:38.000And so we do know that God judged men, women, and children.
01:16:41.000Now, I personally believe that children went to heaven.
01:16:43.000And I think I can make a biblical case for that.
01:16:45.000That babies go to heaven, that children who don't know the right hand from their left go to heaven.
01:16:50.000I've got a teaching out on it on YouTube.
01:16:52.000I think it's called, you know, do children go to heaven?
01:18:45.000Laughter and applause I have no data to support this.
01:18:54.000Every pro-life event I go to, I hear dozens of stories just like that, of women that trust their intuition and the Holy Spirit, that were up against these pressure doctors, and now their kids are healthy and they are great.
01:19:08.000And yes, there might have been challenges.
01:19:11.000So, first of all, credit to you for listening to the Holy Spirit, and you deserve a lot of encouragement and credit.
01:19:21.000And just also understand that what they were presenting you with was assured death, and you said, well, might as well trust and see if there is a way.
01:19:31.000I said, if you're not taking him out of this world, God is.
01:21:42.000So, you have 2,000 people here tonight.
01:21:46.000If every one of you find 10 votes that either did not vote in 2020 or a flipped vote from 2020, this room could flip Pima County, win Arizona, and save the United States of America.
01:21:58.000So go to Turning Point Action booth, sign up to get involved, and download the Turning Point Action app.