The Charlie Kirk Show - A Vote For President is a Vote for 5,000 People: My Appearance at Calvary Chapel Tucson

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, my conversation at Calvary Chapel, Tucson with Pastor Robert Furrow and Frank Turek as we fight for pro-life, and also I make the case for President Trump and the key battleground state of Arizona.

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00:00:19.000 Everybody here?

00:00:20.000 We go.

00:00:21.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:22.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:24.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:27.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:31.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:32.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:33.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:35.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:41.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:01:18.000 Okay, hey everybody, how we doing tonight?

00:01:21.000 That's really hard to do.

00:01:21.000 Give it up for Frank.

00:01:22.000 Wasn't that really powerful?

00:01:23.000 That was amazing.

00:01:27.000 I don't have much to add to that, but I just want to say thank you to Pastor Robert for hosting this.

00:01:32.000 We need more churches to take bold stands right now.

00:01:36.000 And the most important thing that we can do is to bring people to Jesus Christ.

00:01:43.000 The second most important thing is what?

00:01:46.000 To make sure we can do the first thing.

00:01:48.000 To make sure that the church is never deemed non-essential again.

00:01:51.000 To make sure that marijuana clinics and abortion clinics are deemed essential when they try to lock down the Bride of Christ. 1.00

00:01:58.000 So my job is to focus on the second thing mostly.

00:02:01.000 Now I go to college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:02:04.000 Just the other day, I was at University of Wisconsin-Madison, sharing the gospel, talking about conservative values.

00:02:10.000 We saw a lot of those red hats, by the way, as well, on campus.

00:02:13.000 And we go and play offense in places where Christians and conservatives do not always go.

00:02:18.000 And if we are serious about fighting for the unborn, if we are serious about honoring God, we as Christians must no longer be spectators, but instead must be participants in taking back this country.

00:02:33.000 We can no longer just look from afar, and Jesus is on his throne.

00:02:40.000 Amen?

00:02:42.000 Therefore, he wants you to do something.

00:02:45.000 We act out of obedience.

00:02:47.000 It says in the scriptures, Psalm 97 10, let those of you who love the Lord hate evil.

00:02:55.000 What you just saw presented by Frank is evil.

00:02:58.000 We are commanded to hate what you just saw and to do something about it.

00:03:03.000 Micah 6.8, walk humbly with the Lord.

00:03:06.000 Be in righteousness.

00:03:08.000 Honor God in all that you do.

00:03:09.000 Deuteronomy 6, 5.

00:03:11.000 Love the Lord your God with your heart, soul, strength, and mind.

00:03:15.000 Jesus Christ said Leviticus 19 and Deuteronomy 6, 5 are all the laws of the commandments hang on those two things.

00:03:22.000 Love your neighbor as yourself.

00:03:24.000 Everybody, we're doing a bad job of loving our neighbor as ourself when we have 60 million abortions since Roe versus Wade.

00:03:30.000 How did we get here?

00:03:31.000 We got here because the church has fallen for this lie that you should not get involved in politics.

00:03:38.000 I'm not here to tell you to be political.

00:03:40.000 I'm here to tell you to be biblical.

00:03:42.000 Because the Bible tells us to get involved in the public arena.

00:03:46.000 The Bible tells us to care about the least of these.

00:03:50.000 Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Daniel, Jeremiah, Joseph, they were all political.

00:03:55.000 Could you imagine all of a sudden the people saying, hey Elijah, you're being too political.

00:04:01.000 You're going up to the false prophets and trying to say that they're in error.

00:04:05.000 You're being too political.

00:04:06.000 Hey Joseph, can you stop giving advice to Pharaoh?

00:04:11.000 You're being too political.

00:04:12.000 We don't do politics around here.

00:04:14.000 We just do religious stuff.

00:04:16.000 Hey Esther.

00:04:18.000 Come here, Esther. 0.99

00:04:21.000 We know Haman's trying to kill all the Jews. 0.96

00:04:22.000 Can you cut out this political stuff? 0.99

00:04:24.000 We're here to be nice.

00:04:26.000 Can you stop trying to influence the king and saying that all the Jews are kids?

00:04:30.000 Because we don't care, right?

00:04:31.000 Because we would rather be liked.

00:04:33.000 We honor these Bible stories when courageous men and women of God are political.

00:04:38.000 Why don't we start acting courageous in our own life as well, everybody?

00:04:43.000 And I really believe that we are here to use Esther for such a time as this.

00:04:49.000 And my wife and I talk about this all the time.

00:04:51.000 By the way, Erica's here.

00:04:52.000 Give it up.

00:04:52.000 She's the real hero in this equation.

00:04:54.000 She does a great job.

00:04:56.000 We talk about this all the time, which is we are here in a state that will determine the future of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:05:07.000 The problem in front of us is most Christians don't care. 1.00

00:05:10.000 Most pastors will not speak out.

00:05:11.000 Most Christians are indifferent about the future of America. 1.00

00:05:14.000 I believe you look at the parable of the talents.

00:05:17.000 You look at the parables of those who are given a lot, much is expected.

00:05:20.000 We have been given a lot living in America.

00:05:22.000 And God will judge us based on whether or not we are thankful and preserve and protect this great nation, or whether we just kind of cast it aside and say, yeah, America doesn't matter.

00:05:32.000 For those of you that have traveled the world, we should be kissing the ground saying, thank you, God Almighty, that we live in this great country.

00:05:40.000 Thank you, Lord, that we live in this country.

00:05:42.000 But instead, pastors say, that's too controversial.

00:05:47.000 Hey, wake up call.

00:05:48.000 The gospel is controversial.

00:05:51.000 The Bible is controversial.

00:05:53.000 Because Jesus said in what?

00:05:54.000 Luke 12.

00:05:55.000 I did not come to unite the world, but to divide the world.

00:05:58.000 I had come to bring a sword.

00:05:59.000 Oh, Charles, that's not very nice.

00:06:01.000 Read the Bible.

00:06:02.000 Because we have been propagandized to believe you go to church to get affirmed.

00:06:05.000 Everybody, you go to church to get saved, not to get affirmed.

00:06:08.000 You go to church to go to heaven, not to feel comfortable in your sin.

00:06:12.000 And I could tell by the golf applause, you're like, no, I came here to feel good.

00:06:14.000 No, no, no.

00:06:15.000 You come here to make sure that you're not going to eternal damnation.

00:06:18.000 And then once you are saved, you want to glorify that God and all that you do.

00:06:22.000 And the way that we glorify God in the next 60 days, I truly believe, is to fight for those that can't fight for themselves.

00:06:28.000 To defeat Prop 139.

00:06:30.000 And I'm going to say something, and I might not be invited back.

00:06:33.000 Sorry, Pastor Robert.

00:06:34.000 He's now really skittish.

00:06:35.000 I do not believe a Christian Who loves the Lord could vote for Kamala Harris.

00:06:40.000 I do not believe that is possible.

00:06:42.000 I do not believe that is possible.

00:06:45.000 Now, you might have your own talent of events.

00:06:58.000 I want to hear from you in Q&A.

00:06:59.000 Tell me, please, I'll give you the mic, how you think that someone who loves the Lord, loves what God commands, could vote for someone who, just in that one example, used the California Attorney General's office and deployed the secret police against pro-life groups.

00:07:11.000 We are here to honor Hands of Hope tonight, by the way, and all of you should donate to Hands of Hope, and you have envelopes there.

00:07:18.000 See, I listened.

00:07:20.000 But let me tell you, now I'm going to say something that might get me in trouble because I followed instructions.

00:07:24.000 Kamala Harris wants Hands of Hope to be shut down. 0.73

00:07:30.000 It's not an exaggeration.

00:07:31.000 Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris, best friends, have come out and they say pregnancy resource centers should be illegal.

00:07:36.000 Am I correct?

00:07:37.000 This is not a political statement.

00:07:38.000 This is a truth statement.

00:07:39.000 So maybe you came here tonight, you say, Charlie, I don't like, you know, the stuff that's happening.

00:07:45.000 You know, I don't like the tweets.

00:07:46.000 I don't like any of that stuff.

00:07:47.000 I don't like the red hats.

00:07:49.000 I want to save babies.

00:07:49.000 You want to save babies?

00:07:50.000 You make sure Kamala Harris doesn't become President of the United States.

00:07:53.000 You want to save babies?

00:07:54.000 You make sure she doesn't win.

00:07:56.000 Because, imagine, If we kind of sit around and we don't do our job, she will send the Department of Justice and the IRS after these amazing Pregnancy Resource Centers. 1.00

00:08:08.000 By the way, we have to do a better job of bragging on the great work that Hands of Hope and Pregnancy Resource Centers do, of these women that get in these situations and they know in their soul I don't wanna have an abortion.

00:08:20.000 And they need someone to love on them, to show them the direction, to show them that there's a way forward, that when they have the baby, they're gonna have diapers and toys and support.

00:08:28.000 Pregnancy Resource Centers, the 3,000 Pregnancy Resource Centers, are some of the most important ministries happening in the country.

00:08:35.000 We should be celebrating them, not wanting to make them illegal, like Kamala Harris has been saying.

00:08:40.000 On that issue alone, it should motivate you.

00:08:43.000 But I'll say one final thing, then I'll bring Pastor Robert and Frank back here for questions.

00:08:47.000 Many times people say, boy, if I would have lived through slavery, I would have spoke out against it.

00:08:53.000 If I would have lived through slavery, I would have had moral clarity.

00:08:56.000 Guess what?

00:08:56.000 There are more slaves today in America than there were back in the antebellum.

00:09:01.000 It's what's happening on the southern border.

00:09:03.000 I could show you.

00:09:03.000 Come on down to Yuma with me.

00:09:05.000 Come on down to the southern border. 0.97

00:09:06.000 Every day in Arizona, thousands of young prepubescent girls, ages 8 to 13, are being sex trafficked across the southern border and sold as prostitutes in this country. 0.99

00:09:15.000 That is not an exaggeration.

00:09:17.000 According to our own government, this number is probably low, there are 320,000 children that we know of that are missing in the interior United States in just the last four years.

00:09:27.000 What did Jesus Christ our Lord say?

00:09:29.000 It is better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck than to go after the least of these.

00:09:33.000 Everybody, they are sex trafficking kids into the interior of our country, and many Christians sit and watch idly by. 1.00

00:09:40.000 Let us not be those Christians. 1.00

00:09:41.000 The question is, what will you do?

00:09:43.000 What would you have done during slavery?

00:09:45.000 What would you have done during the Holocaust?

00:09:46.000 Everybody, you're living through a moral crisis right now.

00:09:49.000 And the answer is, we don't do much.

00:09:52.000 We watch football games and hope it gets better, but we're easily lecturing about what we would have done a hundred years ago.

00:09:59.000 You're living through a time for choosing right now.

00:10:01.000 And the time for choosing is, hey, we don't want to see kids sex trafficked across our border.

00:10:05.000 We don't want to see the drugs in our communities.

00:10:07.000 We don't want to see churches be shut down erroneously.

00:10:10.000 We want to see a fight for the unborn.

00:10:11.000 We also, by the way, believe that men are men and women are women, this really controversial thing.

00:10:16.000 The question is, for those of us that love the Lord, that came here tonight to glorify Him,

00:10:29.000 will we also do the work to get out the vote, to register fellow voters?

00:10:34.000 Because right here in Pima County, let me tell you the open secret, this church, 2,500 plus people here tonight, This single room could make us lose by less here in Pima County and could make us flip Arizona from a Kamala Harris state to a state that would be for freedom and liberty and would vote for President Donald Trump.

00:10:53.000 This room could get it done.

00:10:55.000 And it's an open question, because you might say, hey, Charlie, that candidate, he's not as pro-life as I would like.

00:11:03.000 You can ask those things in Q&A.

00:11:04.000 We have just created a pretty simple binary for you.

00:11:07.000 It's one that has very little confusion in the gray area, because the enemy wants you to sit at home and do nothing.

00:11:14.000 Because I could tell you what's happening right now.

00:11:16.000 Down the street, the Planned Parenthoods, the abortion clinics, and what's happening at University of Arizona, they're going out and getting the vote, they're mobilizing, they're chasing ballots.

00:11:25.000 Why don't those of us, with a joyful spirit, honoring God Almighty, who loved Jesus Christ, the next 60 days, show the rest of the world that we care for those that can't fight for themselves.

00:11:38.000 And I'll tell you what, we will send a message around the world That we are going to stand for truth and for righteousness and for biblical principles.

00:11:47.000 And we can think back to this night, that it all started at a night for hope in Pima County in Tucson, Arizona, where everyone said it was a waste of time and it's so blue you can't see anything.

00:11:57.000 No, no, no.

00:11:58.000 You guys believed.

00:11:59.000 You chased every ballot.

00:12:00.000 We'll talk about that.

00:12:01.000 You registered new voters.

00:12:03.000 You yourself got out to vote.

00:12:04.000 You got five new friends, 10 new friends, 20 new friends, 30 new friends.

00:12:08.000 You knocked on doors.

00:12:09.000 You had the tough conversations.

00:12:11.000 And we were able to do something historic and amazing.

00:12:14.000 And together, we could send a message heard around the world that would truly please the Lord.

00:12:19.000 Thank you guys so much.

00:12:20.000 Let's do some questions.

00:12:21.000 Thank you.

00:12:25.000 Yes, sir.

00:12:26.000 What's your name?

00:12:27.000 There's also a microphone on this side too, guys, if you want to line up over here.

00:12:31.000 Does this work?

00:12:32.000 Yes, sir.

00:12:32.000 Go ahead.

00:12:32.000 Anyway, for Charlie, I enjoy your college campus ministry, and do you get a feeling of how many people maybe you've turned around to come and sing?

00:12:43.000 Not enough, but we're working on it.

00:12:45.000 I will say this.

00:12:46.000 We were just at University of Wisconsin-Madison yesterday.

00:12:49.000 We had an incredible turnout.

00:12:50.000 Thousands and thousands of students.

00:12:52.000 The biggest problem that we have when we go to a college campus is we cannot find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our on-campus events.

00:12:59.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:13:02.000 And young men are the most conservative they have been in 50 years, which is remarkable.

00:13:10.000 50 years!

00:13:15.000 Young women present an opportunity for improvement.

00:13:19.000 They are by far the most liberal they've been in 50 years.

00:13:21.000 So you can explain that. 0.97

00:13:24.000 The young ladies are so passionate about the ability to murder unborn babies. 1.00

00:13:28.000 It's the number one issue, right?

00:13:29.000 So we have to try to navigate that.

00:13:31.000 But yes, we're making a big difference.

00:13:32.000 Millions of people.

00:13:33.000 Our social media, 55 million TikTok views a week, which is really something.

00:13:38.000 And Instagram's just crazy on that.

00:13:41.000 And we're reaching a lot of people and changing a lot of minds.

00:13:44.000 But we can always do more.

00:13:46.000 I'm a student at the U of A, and I just want to know what I can do.

00:13:52.000 Great.

00:13:52.000 The first is you could join our Turning Point USA chapter at University of Arizona.

00:13:55.000 That's the first thing you could do.

00:13:59.000 Second, you're registered to vote, yes?

00:14:02.000 Okay, good.

00:14:02.000 That's the baseline, that's the minimum.

00:14:05.000 You can find a hundred other people that agree with you at University of Arizona, which they are there, and you can be responsible for making sure they vote and vote early.

00:14:13.000 And then finally, as long as you're cool with getting bad grades, which grades really mean nothing, because standing for truth matters a lot more than getting a good grade.

00:14:25.000 You can speak up whenever you see something that is wrong or an error.

00:14:29.000 Frank, do you want to add on that?

00:14:30.000 Yeah, I was going to say, you can invite Charlie to your campus.

00:14:33.000 I'm coming on October 16th, I think.

00:14:36.000 Okay, I'm going to be at Arizona State on Monday night, because I don't have enough faith to be an atheist presentations.

00:14:43.000 I was just at UT Dallas last night.

00:14:45.000 There's a rumor going around that somebody might join me at Arizona State.

00:14:54.000 On Monday night.

00:14:57.000 Just a rumor, Frank.

00:15:00.000 The reason we go to campuses is because, other than the White House, that's the most anti-Christian real estate in America.

00:15:09.000 The college campus.

00:15:11.000 And so many bad ideas come out of the college campus, so we want to throw a lifeline to people.

00:15:16.000 I know Charlie wants to do that, I want to do that.

00:15:19.000 We want to encourage the Christians, put a stone in the shoe of the skeptics, and get people thinking better.

00:15:24.000 So wherever you are, I know there's Christian groups on campus, even if you can't find a TPUSA, but there's got to be one at University of Arizona, right?

00:15:32.000 There's a really good chapter at U of A. Join and get involved!

00:15:34.000 Are they here?

00:15:35.000 They might actually be here, some of them, but yeah.

00:15:37.000 Get involved with the Turning Point chapter.

00:15:39.000 Hey, what's your name?

00:15:40.000 Hmm?

00:15:41.000 Jose?

00:15:42.000 Jose.

00:15:43.000 You a Christian?

00:15:44.000 Alright, love Jesus, alright?

00:15:45.000 Serve Him, follow Him, stand for Him, alright?

00:15:47.000 Do that in the midst of the college as well, alright?

00:15:49.000 There you go.

00:15:50.000 So my question basically was, what is your stance on Donald Trump's recent stance on IVF?

00:16:05.000 So, um, yeah.

00:16:07.000 Yeah, look, his stance is very pro-IVF.

00:16:11.000 Even the most pro-life people in this room, many of which are pro-IVF.

00:16:16.000 How many of you have a positive experience with IVF?

00:16:18.000 Raise your hands.

00:16:19.000 Anybody?

00:16:20.000 Yeah.

00:16:21.000 I see about 10% of the hands up.

00:16:23.000 Yep.

00:16:23.000 Passionately positive.

00:16:25.000 Maybe even kids or grandkids.

00:16:26.000 Yeah.

00:16:27.000 So I'm pro-life.

00:16:29.000 There's only one way to do IVF ethically and in a pro-life way, which is you'd only fertilize one zygote at a time.

00:16:37.000 That is not the way IVF works.

00:16:39.000 It's done through eight or nine fertilization of eggs.

00:16:41.000 And that is the consistent way.

00:16:44.000 But look, President Trump is not having the same position that I would have.

00:16:48.000 I'm okay, I'm comfortable with that, especially if we look at the spectrum.

00:16:51.000 Right now, the country is far more pro-abortion than it should be.

00:16:56.000 We can't even get late-term abortion outlawed in this country, let alone go all the way to heartbeat than IVF. 0.92

00:17:02.000 But IVF is a very controversial issue even in the pro-life world.

00:17:08.000 I'm only okay with IVF if it's done in an ethical way of one egg implanted at a time.

00:17:13.000 Even that is considered to be a very controversial position, because I bet if we took a poll, the room would be half and half and split.

00:17:20.000 And here is the issue.

00:17:21.000 Because of the toxins in our food, and because of the poisoning, In our country, infertility is at record rates, and so therefore IVF is the only option for a lot of people, unfortunately.

00:17:34.000 Not unfortunately, unfortunately, just the way it is.

00:17:37.000 But I do think that there needs to be a biblical caution that if we think we can just create life in a laboratory, we are flirting with something probably very, very dangerous, and acting and being like God.

00:17:51.000 That is the best argument against it.

00:17:54.000 Pitching on that?

00:17:55.000 What you said though, that we're so pro-abortion in this country, you know why we're so pro-abortion in this country? 0.58

00:18:02.000 President and company excluded, pastors don't speak on the issue.

00:18:08.000 Thank you.

00:18:08.000 Appreciate it.

00:18:09.000 Thank you.

00:18:10.000 So I believe the reason why I brought this up is because I'm recently getting into the

00:18:25.000 Catholic Church and in the Catechism paragraph 2377, I believe it basically tells that IVF

00:18:34.000 doesn't align with pro-life stance.

00:18:38.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:18:39.000 I wish the Pope was Catholic, so that would be great.

00:18:45.000 Sorry, I couldn't resist.

00:18:46.000 I'm sorry.

00:18:47.000 But you are correct.

00:18:50.000 In the Catholic catechism, IVF is not permissible.

00:18:52.000 That's right.

00:18:53.000 Thank you.

00:18:54.000 Thank you.

00:18:56.000 I have one statement, one question.

00:18:58.000 My one statement is for Frank Turek.

00:19:00.000 I'll have you know that you are the single most influential person in my life as far as... Thank you, brother.

00:19:06.000 Thank you, brother. Thank you.

00:19:08.000 As far as, like, becoming a Christian?

00:19:14.000 Is this on video, by the way?

00:19:16.000 Yeah, we got it.

00:19:18.000 We'll send you the only copy.

00:19:19.000 All right, good.

00:19:20.000 The only copy.

00:19:22.000 I have two of your books and now I wish I brought them so you could sign them.

00:19:26.000 Silly me.

00:19:28.000 And my question is for Mr. Charlie Kirk.

00:19:32.000 Are you aware of the fake elector scheme?

00:19:36.000 Well, I'm intimately aware of the alternate electors.

00:19:39.000 Yes.

00:19:39.000 In fact, our COO is facing prison time.

00:19:42.000 By the Arizona Attorney General over it.

00:19:44.000 But yes, I am aware of it.

00:19:46.000 Why?

00:19:47.000 So do you know about John Eastman's plan?

00:19:52.000 No.

00:19:52.000 Oh, John Eastman?

00:19:53.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:19:54.000 Yeah.

00:19:56.000 So what I think, what makes it a fake elector is the state legislatures do not sign the fake electors.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:04.000 Okay.

00:20:05.000 So it's kind of a bizarre question.

00:20:07.000 Like, why are you asking about this?

00:20:09.000 Because I think it's important to understand civics, and I think it's important to understand... Yeah.

00:20:15.000 Okay, so what happened in 1960 with Hawaii?

00:20:18.000 So, that was a very specific situation where the vote counts were very close.

00:20:25.000 Yeah, so was Arizona.

00:20:26.000 Yeah.

00:20:27.000 And the difference between the Hawaii case, the Hawaii case was the legislature, like, it was on the up and up.

00:20:34.000 The legislature signed both documents.

00:20:36.000 No, they did not.

00:20:37.000 No, they didn't.

00:20:38.000 I respectfully disagree.

00:20:39.000 Yeah, well, you're wrong.

00:20:40.000 So, um, but so I'm just let me ask a question, though.

00:20:44.000 So the Democrat attorney general in Arizona won by 250 votes, and she's trying to indict everyday citizens and grandmas for signing a piece of paper for defrauding the 2020 election. 1.00

00:20:57.000 Do you think that is a good use of time?

00:20:58.000 Or should she should be spending it more on cartels and drug traffickers in our neighborhoods? 1.00

00:21:04.000 I'm curious, because she's spending millions of dollars going after 75-year-old women with type 2 diabetes that have no money, trying to put them in prison for 30 years. 1.00

00:21:15.000 Do you think that's a good use of taxpayer money here in the state of Arizona?

00:21:18.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:21:19.000 We should condemn all fraud in this country, especially those... So you think signing a piece of paper because Arizona was still in contention is a bigger priority than kids overdosing from fentanyl in Tucson and Scottsdale?

00:21:34.000 Okay, but she's not going after the drug traffickers. 0.56

00:21:37.000 She's going after grandmas with MAGA hats that signed a piece of paper as if they're a threat to democracy. 1.00

00:21:43.000 And I think it's repulsive.

00:21:45.000 And I think that you complimented Frank Turek because you said you changed your life.

00:21:49.000 I think you should examine the contradiction in your own statement here, which is like, you think fraud should be stamped out because you have a heart for justice, right?

00:21:59.000 Right, so maybe you should have a heart for justice for all the dead kids in this state because Chris Mays will not use the Arizona Attorney General's office to go after the drug trafficking and the child sex trafficking.

00:22:11.000 Can you name a single thing that she has done to secure the southern border in this state?

00:22:17.000 What?

00:22:18.000 Very little.

00:22:19.000 She's too busy trying to put my COO in prison, and people that disagree with her politically, she's acting like a Moscow show trial police Gestapo enforcer, not a duly elected Arizona Attorney General. 1.00

00:22:19.000 You know why? 1.00

00:22:32.000 So, thanks for your question.

00:22:36.000 You're good.

00:22:39.000 You're good.

00:22:40.000 Give us your name as well.

00:22:41.000 I'm sorry?

00:22:42.000 Can you give us your name as well?

00:22:43.000 Yes, it's Jane.

00:22:44.000 Thank you.

00:22:44.000 Jane?

00:22:46.000 Thank you for coming and seeing us today.

00:22:48.000 We really appreciate it, and I'm a little nervous.

00:22:51.000 I want to thank Christ for redeeming me from my sins.

00:22:56.000 Although, especially after your presentation, I would certainly take my time in the lake of fire.

00:23:02.000 I would like to also, based on the comment here with the young man, remind us that Pope John Paul II, during World Youth Day, said, Do not let hope die.

00:23:15.000 Stake your lives on it.

00:23:17.000 We are not the sum of our failures and weaknesses.

00:23:21.000 We are the sum of the Father's love for us and our very real capacity to be the image of His Son.

00:23:29.000 So there, that was my comment.

00:23:32.000 My question, I guess mostly for you, Charlie, if I can call you Charlie.

00:23:37.000 You can ask other people questions.

00:23:40.000 But you know what, you had said something before I was going to speak that I wanted to comment on, which is an absolute truth that women, there's liberal women, there's a lot of women out there that want to have abortions, and I think that there are some reasons behind it that maybe A lot of folks got to think about and that's the single mom rate that we have.

00:24:04.000 It's a really big deal.

00:24:07.000 So you said there's a lot of conservative men and I'm just wondering what more we're doing to encourage men to have a culture of commitment.

00:24:17.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:24:18.000 And the answer is a lot.

00:24:20.000 And I love that.

00:24:21.000 So, first, men need to no longer be boys and they need to become men.

00:24:25.000 And we need to have a culture that allows men to grow up.

00:24:31.000 Young ladies, and I'll allow the pastor and Frank to say this, young ladies also should prioritize having a family over a career, and it's a mistake when they put a career in front of a family. 0.87

00:24:42.000 And that should not be a controversial thing to say.

00:24:46.000 And one of the reasons you're seeing the separation of right-wing men and left-wing women is left-wing women want to become girl bosses and run the shoe company, when men find that deeply unattractive. 0.54

00:24:58.000 And they say, forget that.

00:25:00.000 We want to be part of a society or a community that prioritizes family formation, so on and so forth.

00:25:07.000 And what we have seen is a bunch of early 30-something women that are the most liberal left-wing voting bloc with great careers, good condos in Scottsdale, and cats. 1.00

00:25:19.000 And yes, I went there.

00:25:21.000 Well, meanwhile, in fact, Charlie and I were talking about this the other day.

00:25:34.000 So many young men spend hours and hours playing video games.

00:25:37.000 You know what video games are?

00:25:39.000 Video games are a simulation of adventure and triumph.

00:25:46.000 It's a simulation.

00:25:47.000 It's not the real thing.

00:25:50.000 But what they want to do through the video game is what they ought to be doing in life.

00:25:57.000 And is there anything more adventurous and significant than building the kingdom of God?

00:26:05.000 No!

00:26:06.000 Nothing else!

00:26:08.000 So we have to give people that vision.

00:26:10.000 And ironically, one of the most Effective voices in the space right now on this very topic is not even a Christian. 0.85

00:26:19.000 His name is Jordan Peterson.

00:26:22.000 He's getting young men to go, man, I want some of that. 1.00

00:26:25.000 I want some of that adventure.

00:26:26.000 I want some of that meaning.

00:26:27.000 I want some of that direction.

00:26:29.000 We ought to be giving them that same kind of direction toward Jesus in the church.

00:26:37.000 Thank you.

00:26:37.000 Go ahead, Manny.

00:26:43.000 Hey guys, we know from God's Word it's clear that God hates the shedding of innocent blood, and that we're supposed to stand for the defenseless and the innocent, and we always call the left out.

00:26:57.000 But why is it that many pastors and conservatives never call the right, when the Supreme Court, Trump, Vance, recently said they won't overturn the abortion pill?

00:27:09.000 And Trump constantly criticizes early abortion bans instead of taking a 100% stand and say, hey, it's wrong to kill babies no matter what stage.

00:27:19.000 And also... Let me say something to that because Ben Shapiro said something maybe six years ago and I thought it was very insightful on this.

00:27:28.000 He said, do not pay attention to what Trump says, pay attention to what Trump does.

00:27:33.000 Okay?

00:27:39.000 Because... Do you remember in the first debate when he was debating... What's that guy's name?

00:27:46.000 The first debate?

00:27:48.000 The guy that got all the votes?

00:27:50.000 Yeah, that guy.

00:27:51.000 Yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah.

00:27:56.000 When he was debating President Biden... Do you know what Trump said verbally that everybody's thinking?

00:28:02.000 He started talking about abortion and he said, but you gotta get elected!

00:28:07.000 He kept saying that over and over again, and what he did, I thought in that debate, is he skillfully flipped the script on Biden by talking about, Mr. President, you're the real extremist on the issue.

00:28:23.000 You want abortion to the moment of birth, and you want the government to pay for it.

00:28:30.000 Trump, Charlie, you can pick it up here, because you say this more articulately than I can.

00:28:34.000 I sympathize with your sentiment.

00:28:35.000 You're not as pro-life as I am.

00:28:37.000 And we have to look at the abortion issue as an incremental, multi-generational type issue.

00:28:43.000 And understand this, the majority of the country is pro-abortion.

00:28:47.000 The majority of the church is pro-abortion.

00:28:49.000 And so you have to assume political power to be able to do anything for the unborn. 0.96

00:28:54.000 And yes, it is a binary.

00:28:55.000 So you can have Kamala Harris, which will be the most pro-abortion administration in history, or we can look at what Trump has done. 1.00

00:29:02.000 And let us not get too ahead of our skis here.

00:29:04.000 He delivered the greatest pro-life victory in American history with the reversal of Roe vs. Wade.

00:29:09.000 And we must acknowledge that.

00:29:14.000 Yes.

00:29:14.000 Would I, would I personally have, I do have different stances and all that.

00:29:18.000 But let's look at what Trump also did.

00:29:21.000 Spoke at the March for Life.

00:29:22.000 George W. Bush never spoke at the March for Life.

00:29:24.000 He never voiced any support of the pro-life community.

00:29:27.000 Gave us Gorsuch, Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh.

00:29:30.000 So it's easy to criticize Trump.

00:29:32.000 I hear you.

00:29:33.000 But first, shouldn't we look around at the body politic where 60 to 70% of the country is okay with most forms of abortion?

00:29:41.000 Did you say you're more pro-life than me?

00:29:42.000 you know, 50% are okay with almost all forms of abortion.

00:29:45.000 So look at what he does, and if you do not win elections, you do nothing for the unborn. If you

00:29:51.000 can win elections. Yes, go ahead.

00:29:52.000 Did you say you're more pro-life than me? Is that what you said?

00:29:55.000 No, than Trump. I mean, I'm sure we're equally pro-life.

00:29:58.000 Yeah. Mannington, can I say something?

00:30:01.000 But just one more thing.

00:30:03.000 But it's a cowardly way out to say, oh, it's up to the states.

00:30:07.000 Well, hold on.

00:30:08.000 They're persons that are supposed to be protected like everybody else. 0.99

00:30:11.000 You're calling Trump a coward. 0.96

00:30:12.000 You're the candidate. 0.86

00:30:13.000 How would you talk about abortion?

00:30:15.000 I would say that under the 14th Amendment, they're persons and should be protected like every other human being.

00:30:20.000 Do you think you would win an election with that stance?

00:30:23.000 No.

00:30:23.000 Yes or no?

00:30:26.000 What's that?

00:30:26.000 Do you think you would win an election?

00:30:28.000 Well, if I got to... You're a candidate. 0.99

00:30:31.000 You called Trump a coward. 0.92

00:30:32.000 Yes or no? 0.91

00:30:32.000 Would you win an election? 0.91

00:30:36.000 No.

00:30:37.000 So, therefore, you would hand the keys to the kingdom to the most pro-abortion candidate ever to make a point.

00:30:44.000 This is the spirit of religion that Jesus warned us about. 0.99

00:30:46.000 No, no.

00:30:46.000 I'm saying we know the left is evil, but you're telling us to still vote for evil over here.

00:30:51.000 Hold on.

00:30:51.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:30:52.000 I am not.

00:30:53.000 That's the problem, though.

00:30:54.000 You know what that's like saying?

00:30:55.000 That's like saying I wouldn't vote for John Quincy Adams because he wanted to make slavery illegal in only some states.

00:31:01.000 But if God says that abortion is wrong, it's wrong.

00:31:04.000 Yes, of course it is.

00:31:05.000 And we are being morally clear.

00:31:06.000 And you can't give them a pass for saying, oh, well, we're going to change the date or whatever they're saying.

00:31:11.000 Hold on a second.

00:31:11.000 Can I say one thing on this?

00:31:12.000 You're using no wisdom and no prudence.

00:31:14.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:31:16.000 Who would be better for the pro-life amendment, Donald Trump or Kamala Harris? 1.00

00:31:21.000 Yeah, Trump, sure.

00:31:22.000 Then you should vote for Donald Trump because the pro-life movement should remain strong.

00:31:27.000 The Bible says evil is evil.

00:31:29.000 Period.

00:31:30.000 So you're telling us to vote for evil?

00:31:32.000 No, I'm telling you to vote for the guy that reversed Roe vs. Wade.

00:31:36.000 You're walking away because you know you're wrong.

00:31:38.000 This is exactly what the left would want.

00:31:40.000 He's probably paid by the Arizona Democrat Party because that is exactly what Kamala Harris would want to have happen. 1.00

00:31:48.000 Alright. 0.99

00:31:49.000 That is pathetic, sir. 0.98

00:31:50.000 You would hand the keys to the country to Kamala Harris to go make a virtue signaling point. 1.00

00:31:55.000 Shame on you.

00:31:56.000 We want to make sure, we want to make sure that we don't conflate Republican

00:32:11.000 and Christian and Democrat and non-Christian.

00:32:13.000 I I, look,

00:32:16.000 I'll just be straight, okay?

00:32:18.000 There are more Republicans that are genuine Christians than Democrats. 0.68

00:32:22.000 I think that's true.

00:32:24.000 But there are a lot... Now listen.

00:32:27.000 Listen.

00:32:29.000 No, he did not.

00:32:30.000 You would allow Kamala Harris to become president? 0.84

00:32:34.000 Okay, then you got no contention.

00:32:36.000 You're not talking, we are.

00:32:40.000 Listen.

00:32:43.000 Listen.

00:32:46.000 If there's not a Christian that we can vote for, are we going to vote for him? 1.00

00:32:53.000 Are we going to vote for someone who's not a Christian? 0.97

00:32:56.000 I'm just wondering.

00:32:57.000 You're not going to vote for someone who's not a Christian? 0.75

00:32:59.000 Of course I would.

00:33:01.000 You're not going to vote for someone who's not a Christian? 0.75

00:33:04.000 I am.

00:33:06.000 If the person that's on there isn't a Christian, and I wouldn't agree with them 100% about everything, and wouldn't agree with them about abortion, I would vote for that person. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Because we need to put a government in place that we will be subject to.

00:33:19.000 Because as Christians, we're subject to that government.

00:33:25.000 If we see to the other side that we do not agree with, that we do not want, we don't want human trafficking taking place.

00:33:33.000 As Christians, how could we possibly want human trafficking of women and girls taking place in the United States?

00:33:40.000 And just because the other side is a Christian doesn't mean we don't vote for them.

00:33:44.000 This is the world, folks.

00:33:45.000 This isn't the kingdom of God.

00:33:47.000 The kingdom of God is in our midst.

00:33:49.000 The kingdom of God is waiting for us in heaven forever.

00:33:52.000 This is the world.

00:33:54.000 And we're gonna be people in the world who say things differently than we say them.

00:33:57.000 I don't know where Donald Trump stands as a Christian.

00:34:00.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:34:01.000 I have no idea.

00:34:02.000 I've heard some things that I think maybe, then I hear some things that maybe not.

00:34:05.000 But that's not what matters.

00:34:07.000 What matters is we have the responsibility in the government of the United States to be able to vote and to be able to pick the people we will subject ourselves to.

00:34:16.000 If that is Kamala Harris, if that's the other side, we're going to be doing a lot of things.

00:34:21.000 We're going to be submitting to a government that's going to be allowing a lot of things like shutting down crisis pregnancy centers. 0.99

00:34:29.000 So you can't make your decision based upon Christians. 0.76

00:34:32.000 Because what did Jesus say?

00:34:33.000 Narrow is the way that leads to life, broad is the way that leads to destruction.

00:34:37.000 And we are in the midst of the world, but we're to subject ourselves to the government that's put into place by God.

00:34:43.000 And so we subject ourselves to that government, and if we have to vote for a non-believer, then we'll vote for a non-believer, because we're not voting for Jesus.

00:34:50.000 It's not like we're saying to them.

00:34:52.000 Applause Pastor

00:35:05.000 If you're going to wait for that, you're going to be submitting yourself to a government that you never want to.

00:35:09.000 You're going to be seeing things you shouldn't be seeing, and we have the responsibility.

00:35:13.000 Because we have two things.

00:35:14.000 We have the vote, and we have our prayer.

00:35:16.000 And prayer is far more important and far more powerful than the vote.

00:35:19.000 But we have our vote, and our votes matter.

00:35:21.000 And why don't we put them behind somebody who's going to be the best candidate, not the perfect candidate.

00:35:26.000 If you're waiting for the perfect candidate, you're never going to get them.

00:35:30.000 I'm done.

00:35:34.000 Raise your hand, Frank.

00:35:38.000 Yeah, what he said.

00:35:40.000 No, um... It's not even correct biblically what that gentleman said.

00:35:47.000 Jesus, in Matthew 19, is asked, Why then did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?

00:35:57.000 Jesus replied, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard, but it was not this way from the beginning.

00:36:08.000 Translation, God even worked incrementally with Israel.

00:36:17.000 There are times when you can't get everything you want.

00:36:23.000 And God took a culture, an ancient Near East culture, that was so depraved that he knew he couldn't get their obedience if he went a hundred percent in one direction. 1.00

00:36:38.000 He wanted to bring them along incrementally.

00:36:41.000 And the only way in this country that abortion is going to go away is if we bring it along incrementally.

00:36:48.000 You're not going to get elected right now claiming no abortions, no exceptions, except life of the mother.

00:36:55.000 And so, despite the fact that I think President Trump's rhetoric wasn't helpful when he said that, he's right that he's not going to be able to do anything unless he gets elected.

00:37:07.000 If I were Donald Trump and I was asked, if this pro-life legislation came to your desk, would you sign it?

00:37:13.000 I would say this, if that pro-life legislation got to my desk, that would mean the people wanted it.

00:37:21.000 Because it wouldn't get to me unless they wanted it.

00:37:25.000 And if they did want it, I would sign it.

00:37:28.000 But we all know that's not going to happen.

00:37:30.000 So what we have to do is change hearts and minds.

00:37:34.000 And eventually, perhaps, we will get there.

00:37:37.000 But, sir, your question is for my opponent.

00:37:40.000 Is she going to ban abortions up to the moment of birth? 0.99

00:37:45.000 Or is she going to want them?

00:37:47.000 Abort it up to the moment of birth, and pay for them with taxpayer money.

00:37:53.000 Frank Turek for spokesperson.

00:37:55.000 How great is that?

00:37:56.000 I think that's correct.

00:37:57.000 Now listen.

00:38:01.000 Frank was talking about the concept of God giving conceptions in the law, which God did give concessions.

00:38:06.000 There's another concession that he gave, and it fits with why we're gathered together here tonight.

00:38:11.000 And that's God gave them a concession to have a king.

00:38:14.000 God didn't want them to have a king.

00:38:16.000 But he said, when you choose a king, he's going to take your children, he's going to take your men for war, he's going to do all of these things.

00:38:23.000 They said, we still want a king.

00:38:25.000 God gave them that concession.

00:38:27.000 There are some times that we have to give a concession.

00:38:30.000 If God will give a concession, then how are we wrong when we give a concession?

00:38:35.000 Because we say, that's the right thing.

00:38:37.000 Right?

00:38:38.000 So, let's do the best we can, get the best people we can get in there.

00:38:43.000 They might not be believers, but we don't expect them to be.

00:38:45.000 Because we're the church, they're the world.

00:38:47.000 My name is Kenneth.

00:38:54.000 Thank you, Ms. Kudith.

00:38:56.000 Pastor Robert, thank you for having these gentlemen here.

00:38:58.000 Thank you for being here.

00:39:00.000 So my question is, several years ago, California voted against gay marriage. 0.96

00:39:06.000 The Ninth Circuit of fools overturned what the people voted for. 0.93

00:39:11.000 So if this goes the way we want, How are we to prevent the court from overturning that? 0.98

00:39:21.000 What a great question and a really good segue.

00:39:23.000 If Kamala Harris wins, she will pack the Supreme Court with people who will then reverse row back to where it was and they would get away any sort of state sovereignty. 1.00

00:39:35.000 This is another reason to be incremental about this.

00:39:38.000 She says that she will put justices that believe that you have a national right to abortion.

00:39:45.000 So the 14 states that have currently outlawed abortion, she will put justices on the Supreme Court to reverse those 14 states that have now outlawed abortion.

00:39:54.000 How do we get rid of it?

00:39:54.000 Make sure we have more people like Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, and vote for the Supreme Court.

00:39:59.000 Don't just vote for the presidency, everybody.

00:40:02.000 Voting for the Supreme Court is incredibly important for religious liberty, for freedom of speech.

00:40:07.000 But yes, the Obergefell decision that you talk about, Which was the decision that overturned state sovereignty when it came to homosexual marriage, was done because of a left-wing activist court that does not believe in states' rights or state sovereignty.

00:40:22.000 Donald Trump showed us, when he was president, he picked phenomenal justices.

00:40:27.000 He did what he said he was going to do.

00:40:29.000 And guess what?

00:40:29.000 Those justices did what?

00:40:31.000 They upheld decisions on school choice.

00:40:34.000 Do you know that we have school choice here in the state of Arizona?

00:40:36.000 Thanks to the Supreme Court.

00:40:40.000 Upheld decisions on mask mandates.

00:40:43.000 Do you know that we would still have mask mandates on planes and in government buildings if it wasn't for his judges?

00:40:49.000 Upheld decisions that the church cannot be called non-essential as those decisions worked its way up to the Supreme Court.

00:40:55.000 They made a landmark decision saying, and Clarence Thomas wrote the opinion, even during a medical crisis, the Constitution does not go away and religious freedom does not disappear.

00:41:07.000 Those were the justices he gave us.

00:41:13.000 Yeah.

00:41:15.000 Cool.

00:41:16.000 Howdy, howdy, howdy. 0.96

00:41:17.000 It's nice to, it's an absolute blessing to have you guys here.

00:41:19.000 I've been looking forward to this since I found out two weeks ago.

00:41:22.000 Um, so my original question, I'm going to change it because I'm really curious to hear your guys' opinion on when we're bold to others, like how direct can we be?

00:41:31.000 Because I've had a lot of times where people call me very arrogant just because I'm straight to the facts.

00:41:35.000 Hey, well, what about this?

00:41:37.000 What about this?

00:41:38.000 What about this?

00:41:39.000 And a lot of times they take it as me being very prideful and stuff.

00:41:42.000 And I was kind of curious how you guys approach that.

00:41:46.000 I think in today's culture, Christianity is outside the Overton window.

00:41:52.000 Which means it's not acceptable to say certain things without people getting all upset.

00:41:57.000 So I think the way forward today is to ask questions, which is what Charlie does on college campuses.

00:42:04.000 I do when I get questions.

00:42:05.000 You always want to ask the assumption or uncover the assumption behind the question.

00:42:09.000 You want to ask questions like, what do you mean by that?

00:42:12.000 How'd you come to that conclusion?

00:42:14.000 Why do you think that's true?

00:42:15.000 Have you ever considered?

00:42:16.000 These are questions from a book that my friend Greg Coco wrote called Tactic.

00:42:22.000 It will help you interact with people.

00:42:24.000 So ask a lot of questions.

00:42:26.000 Whether it has to do with religion, or it has to do with politics, ask questions.

00:42:31.000 Try and see what is underneath the person's belief.

00:42:36.000 And quite frequently, people have moral positions, yet they have no moral standard in their worldview.

00:42:42.000 No objective moral standard.

00:42:43.000 They're atheists, right? 0.88

00:42:44.000 And they think they have rights to certain things.

00:42:46.000 Do you know if there is no God, there are no rights?

00:42:49.000 There's not only no right to abortion, there's no right to life. 0.95

00:42:52.000 There's not only no right to same-sex marriage, there's no right to natural marriage. 1.00

00:42:55.000 There's no trans rights, human rights, Christian rights. 1.00

00:42:58.000 There are no rights, period, unless God exists, yet people will stand at the microphone and claim they have a certain right, and then when I ask them by what moral standard, they don't have an answer.

00:43:08.000 So you should always try and uncover the assumption behind the question by asking questions.

00:43:14.000 And Jesus asked, what, 300 questions or something in the New Testament?

00:43:17.000 So ask questions.

00:43:19.000 Hey, what's your name?

00:43:20.000 It's Colt.

00:43:21.000 Colt.

00:43:22.000 Take a genuine interest in them.

00:43:24.000 So if you're talking with someone, ask them questions and really care about them.

00:43:28.000 Don't ask them just to get things going.

00:43:29.000 That's too hard, Pastor.

00:43:32.000 But once you take a genuine interest in them, they're going to be more likely to listen to what you're having to say.

00:43:37.000 Because they're probably perceiving that you're going this, this, this, and this, and then you don't care about them.

00:43:41.000 And when people know you care about them, they will listen to you.

00:43:43.000 Alright?

00:43:44.000 So do that. 0.56

00:43:44.000 Awesome, awesome. 0.56

00:43:45.000 Thank you so much, God bless you.

00:43:51.000 Hi, how's it going?

00:43:52.000 It's a blessing to be here and to have you guys here.

00:43:54.000 I want to open with Genesis 12, 3.

00:43:57.000 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse.

00:44:02.000 And my question is, given the complex and evolving situation in Israel and the broader Middle East, how do you believe the United States should navigate its relationship with Israel, balancing both national security interests and the growing calls for a more nuanced approach for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

00:44:22.000 Yeah, yeah, I'll go ahead and start with it.

00:44:24.000 So, God promised Israel that he was going to bless those who bless him.

00:44:29.000 God promised that out of his descendants was going to come one person who blessed the entire world.

00:44:34.000 So there's a Jew named Jesus, Yahshua, who has blessed the entire world, and he came out of Israel.

00:44:42.000 And God made a lot of promises to Israel, and God's going to fulfill those promises to them.

00:44:47.000 Now, in the meantime, if you go back, do some homework, go to Ezekiel 36, read 36, 7, 8, and 9, and then get to the end of it.

00:44:55.000 So you're gonna see them restore the nation, the land, the people to the land, and then they become a nation, and then there's a war.

00:45:02.000 And in the end of that war, the people of Israel come back to Christ.

00:45:07.000 So right now, they're not serving their Messiah.

00:45:09.000 Do you know now there are more Jews that are Christians than at any other time?

00:45:12.000 There's about a million Jews who are Christians today.

00:45:15.000 That's more than any other time in the entire world.

00:45:17.000 It is.

00:45:18.000 And it is amazing.

00:45:19.000 Because they are...

00:45:21.000 The Bible tells us they're blinded, but the Bible says in Romans chapter 11 that God is going to save them.

00:45:27.000 They're all going to be saved.

00:45:28.000 From the Old Testament, Zechariah 12.10, I will pour out a spirit of grace and mercy on Jerusalem and they will mourn for me as one who mourns for an only son when they saw me pierced in Jerusalem.

00:45:39.000 God speaking.

00:45:40.000 When was God pierced in Jerusalem?

00:45:43.000 And God's gonna pour a spirit of grace and mercy on Israel.

00:45:46.000 What I'm saying is, have they done everything right with this war?

00:45:49.000 I don't know that they have.

00:45:50.000 Would we have done everything right with a war like this?

00:45:53.000 I don't know that we would.

00:45:54.000 I don't know that there is an answer to be 100% right with what they're doing.

00:45:58.000 But what I am saying is, God's gonna keep His promise to Israel.

00:46:01.000 They're right now a secular country, like the United States.

00:46:05.000 We're forgetting that we're secular.

00:46:06.000 And Israel is secular as well.

00:46:08.000 They are not living for God.

00:46:11.000 But one day, They will.

00:46:13.000 And Romans goes as far as saying, they will all be saved.

00:46:16.000 Now, I don't know if all means all.

00:46:18.000 Romans 11, 25, 26, 6, by the way.

00:46:21.000 But I don't know that all means all, like 100%.

00:46:23.000 But I know all can never mean a few.

00:46:25.000 Right?

00:46:26.000 It's got to be the vast majority.

00:46:28.000 And so, that's Israel's future. 0.92

00:46:30.000 God will keep His promises to them.

00:46:32.000 And that's a good thing, because if God doesn't keep His promises to them, how do we know He's going to keep His promises to us?

00:46:37.000 If God makes a promise to Israel and gives it to someone else, how do I know the promises He's made to me?

00:46:41.000 That if I believe in Him, then I'll be saved?

00:46:45.000 And so I put my trust in Christ?

00:46:47.000 And the evidence to that, by the way, is that you're living for Him.

00:46:49.000 So if you're not living for Jesus, if you say, I'm a Christian, but you're not doing the things He wants you to do, I'm not saying you're perfect, That's the evidence that we really do know him and that'll be the evidence when Israel has come back to him.

00:47:01.000 So we pray for them.

00:47:02.000 We ask God to help them.

00:47:04.000 This was a horrible event a year ago that happened that brought Israel into this horrible thing. 1.00

00:47:09.000 Hamas is hiding among children and hospitals and all kinds of things and this is being reported on one way in the media and we're like, I'm talking about the American people.

00:47:21.000 We're like sheep.

00:47:22.000 We take it.

00:47:23.000 We listen to it.

00:47:24.000 We end up agreeing with what they're saying, not understanding the truth of what's going on.

00:47:30.000 They cannot leave someone 100 miles away from Jerusalem that wants to slaughter them. 0.83

00:47:36.000 They can't leave them in place.

00:47:38.000 You could fit 19 Israels inside of Arizona.

00:47:42.000 19 Israels.

00:47:43.000 That's how small Israel is.

00:47:45.000 And they cannot have a terrorist organization that was voted in by the Palestinian people.

00:47:49.000 And there are more Palestinians today that are getting saved than ever before.

00:47:52.000 By the way, did you know that?

00:47:53.000 More Palestinians become Christians than ever before.

00:47:56.000 So it's God worked with the Jewish people to work with Gentiles. 0.92

00:48:00.000 And so, hopefully that answers your question.

00:48:02.000 I just wanted to ask Charlie, do you think it'll be detrimental to the United States if we turn our back on Israel? 0.50

00:48:09.000 Oh yeah, without a doubt.

00:48:12.000 Do you think it would be detrimental if we turn our back on Israel?

00:48:14.000 Absolutely, yes.

00:48:15.000 We need to stand with Israel, and right now the current administration is playing both sides.

00:48:22.000 You know we're funding both sides of the conflict?

00:48:24.000 We're giving money to Hamas and money to Israel? 0.69

00:48:27.000 President Donald Trump was the most pro-Israel president in American history.

00:48:31.000 Period.

00:48:35.000 He moved the embassy to Jerusalem, he recognized Golan Heights, he got rid of the pay-for-slay policy, he restricted funding to Hamas, he put Iran on defense, he did more Iranian sanctions, he had the Abraham Accords, peace in the Middle East between Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates, and there was no war between Israel and Gaza, Israel a Palestinian authority.

00:48:59.000 We were getting closer to a historic peace deal.

00:49:02.000 October 7th never would have happened if President Trump Trump was president. This was one of the most avoidable

00:49:07.000 wars in modern history.

00:49:08.000 But we must resolutely stand with the state of Israel against the savage 0.96

00:49:15.000 enemies in the Middle East that want all the Jews dead. 0.96

00:49:20.000 Let me say one little thing. 0.99

00:49:22.000 Let me just say this, I'll hand it to you.

00:49:24.000 So we're going to end at 9, alright?

00:49:25.000 So we've got 19 minutes left.

00:49:27.000 So those of you who are standing in line, you might want to re-evaluate where you are, whether you're going to make it by 9 o'clock.

00:49:32.000 Go ahead.

00:49:32.000 Ladies and gentlemen, if the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be no more war.

00:49:38.000 If Israel laid down their weapons, there'd be no more Israel. 0.97

00:49:42.000 That's right.

00:49:43.000 All right.

00:49:44.000 Thank you.

00:49:45.000 All right.

00:49:45.000 Thank you.

00:49:49.000 What's your name?

00:49:50.000 Good evening, my name is Carolyn.

00:49:52.000 It's such a pleasure to be here and to listen to all of you speak.

00:49:56.000 I wanted to share a bit of a story just to share the testament of how excellent the church is and how amazing Turning Point is.

00:50:05.000 You guys have changed my life.

00:50:07.000 I was well on the way to being a girl boss and having a cat and living by myself and saying I don't need no men and then I ended up accidentally going to America Fest in 2022 and I met a guy And I knew that that was a man who had a fire for Christ and had a fire for the truth.

00:50:33.000 And there was nothing that was going to sway him from that path.

00:50:35.000 And I knew I needed a change if I wanted to keep him in my life.

00:50:39.000 So for an entire year, while I drove from Surprise to Tucson to come see him once a week, for two and a half hours, I would spend listening to every single Turning Point video I could possibly find.

00:50:57.000 On one of those drives, I decided I wanted to become a mother.

00:51:02.000 And in April of this year, I married that man.

00:51:05.000 Is he here somewhere?

00:51:11.000 Stand up.

00:51:11.000 There you go.

00:51:13.000 I love that.

00:51:18.000 Thank you.

00:51:20.000 Thank you so much for everything that you guys do.

00:51:23.000 This is what you guys do, and I am so proud to be able to continually represent my church and my political party, and just know we're fighting for the truth because we're fighting for Christ.

00:51:37.000 Amen.

00:51:38.000 Thank you.

00:51:40.000 And let me just say, I do what I do because of stories like that.

00:51:45.000 So God bless you, Caroline.

00:51:46.000 Thank you so much.

00:51:48.000 Charlie Kirk matchmaker!

00:51:52.000 What's your name, sir?

00:51:54.000 What's your name?

00:51:54.000 I'm going to follow that.

00:51:57.000 I have a question from my son.

00:51:59.000 He's not here tonight.

00:51:59.000 He couldn't make it.

00:52:01.000 Thank you for showing up here.

00:52:02.000 I really appreciate you guys being here.

00:52:05.000 My son was asking, and I guess you guys have already talked about it, but I'll just read it.

00:52:11.000 Should Christians in the next election, 2028, call for the next Republican candidate to end abortion with a federal ban on abortion?

00:52:18.000 And should Christians threaten to hold their votes if this is not put forward?

00:52:21.000 I know you spoke to that second part.

00:52:23.000 But how do we move forward?

00:52:25.000 I'm voting for Trump.

00:52:27.000 I'm just saying.

00:52:29.000 I'm not against that.

00:52:31.000 That's a really smart question.

00:52:34.000 And I mean, I got heated earlier.

00:52:35.000 It's been a long week today.

00:52:36.000 But I'll happily reconcile with that guy earlier.

00:52:41.000 As you can tell, I get all fired up if people want to make Kamala Harris president.

00:52:46.000 But yes, look, we must demand incremental change.

00:52:51.000 And I think in the next platform meeting, we should get life back in the RNC platform.

00:52:56.000 I think that should be a big push in the 2028 platform meeting.

00:53:02.000 And secondly, whomever the candidate is, who knows, right?

00:53:07.000 What's gonna happen?

00:53:09.000 I think that we need to say, how can we make the movement, policy-wise, legislative-wise, more pro-life?

00:53:15.000 What are our wins every four years?

00:53:17.000 Every four years.

00:53:18.000 That's how we got rid of slavery in this country, is we looked at things through four-year cycles.

00:53:24.000 And so a great example would be this.

00:53:26.000 Can we win a single ballot referendum?

00:53:30.000 I think we can win here in Arizona, right?

00:53:31.000 We can defeat 139.

00:53:35.000 Because here's the sad truth, and why I get fired up about this, because I want to make sure we're all living in reality.

00:53:40.000 We have lost every single abortion referendum in this country since the reversal of Roe vs. Wade.

00:53:46.000 Kathy can correct me.

00:53:47.000 But we lost in Kentucky.

00:53:48.000 We lost in Montana.

00:53:50.000 We lost in some of the red estates.

00:53:52.000 Now there's problems with wording and there's problems with, you know, yes or no.

00:53:56.000 It's very confusing in Kansas.

00:53:58.000 But we need to try to win some of those, right?

00:54:00.000 We need to try to advance those pro-life policies.

00:54:02.000 Can we have 20 states instead of 14 states that completely ban abortion, that would be really good.

00:54:08.000 So I think we need to try to map those things out.

00:54:11.000 But we also must be very clear that we're going to remain a pro-life party.

00:54:15.000 Because to the previous point, to give a little bit of credence to the previous point, There is a concern.

00:54:24.000 In Canada, they have two pro-abortion parties.

00:54:27.000 There is no pro-life movement anymore in Canada.

00:54:30.000 Because there was a movement that we should never stand for pro-life again.

00:54:33.000 Just understand, I'm not saying that at all.

00:54:35.000 I just spent three and a half hours at the campus of the University of Wisconsin-Madison debating for life, right?

00:54:40.000 We can't give an inch on that.

00:54:42.000 We also must be clear, though, the country is not as pro-life as we are.

00:54:45.000 So hopefully we can move the culture forward, get better leaders, Thank you.

00:54:48.000 Thank you.

00:54:48.000 Do you guys have anything to contribute there?

00:54:49.000 Well, it's not so much the political party's responsibility, it's the church's responsibility

00:54:54.000 to make the political party pro-life.

00:54:59.000 It's our responsibility, so we need to get more pastors like Pastor Ferro and others

00:55:05.000 to actually train and disciple people on this issue.

00:55:10.000 Thank you.

00:55:12.000 Thank you.

00:55:13.000 Yes.

00:55:14.000 Hi, my name is Madison Sharkey.

00:55:17.000 I'm a 17-year-old senior at Canyon Delaware High School, and I'm going to be a freshman next year at the U of A. I just got my acceptance letter.

00:55:25.000 I just wanted to say thank you.

00:55:30.000 Thank you for how much you do for not just my generation, for all generations out there and upcoming generations.

00:55:36.000 You've had such a big impact on me and my family and helping me see the right views and you just have become such a big support in my life.

00:55:45.000 And I thank you so much for fighting for my country and helping all of us fight against abortion.

00:55:51.000 Applause Thank you.

00:55:59.000 Hi. I know that t-shirt.

00:56:02.000 That's the limited edition.

00:56:03.000 Formula One.

00:56:04.000 That's right.

00:56:05.000 I don't know much about it.

00:56:07.000 I apologize, but... No, no, no.

00:56:11.000 That t-shirt.

00:56:13.000 By the way, is that not the most amazing image in the history of American politics?

00:56:16.000 Can we agree?

00:56:20.000 Here.

00:56:21.000 So, my name is Natalia.

00:56:23.000 First, I'd like to thank each of you, Mr. Kirk, Mr. Furrow, and Mr. Turek for coming out here and speaking.

00:56:29.000 And this question is specifically for Mr. Turek to answer.

00:56:34.000 So, first, after coming here and listening, I was talking a bit to the woman Women Speak Out pact, and I feel very passionate about saving the babies and being pro-life.

00:56:46.000 So I just had a question on personal advice, answering the tough questions on saving the babies regarding rape and incest cases, which I know probably isn't the majority of the abortion cases.

00:56:59.000 It's a very small minority.

00:57:01.000 So I just had questions on answering how to save the babies for that.

00:57:09.000 Yeah.

00:57:10.000 Well, what we all need to admit is that these are difficult circumstances.

00:57:17.000 However, does the father's sin justify the murder of the child?

00:57:29.000 It's emotionally difficult, but it's not intellectually difficult.

00:57:35.000 And so, I think that we need to point that out.

00:57:39.000 If the father's sin justified the murder of the child, then all children who are born of rape could be murdered.

00:57:49.000 Right?

00:57:50.000 In fact, I was at Michigan State, this had to be 15 years ago, and I was going through the I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist presentation, and I knew there was a militant atheist in the audience, but he sat through the entire presentation looking like this.

00:58:07.000 I mean, he didn't crack a smile once, and I had some pretty good jokes in there.

00:58:11.000 Anyway, as soon as the Q&A started, his hand shot up, and I said, yes sir, and he said, if there is a good God, why doesn't he stop all the evil in the world?

00:58:21.000 I said, sir, that is an excellent question.

00:58:24.000 Maybe because if he did, he might start with you.

00:58:29.000 And me, because we do evil every day.

00:58:32.000 You ever notice when we start complaining about evil, we're always complaining about somebody else?

00:58:36.000 It's like, God, why don't you stop him?

00:58:37.000 Why, God, why don't you stop her?

00:58:39.000 We never say, God, why don't you stop me?

00:58:41.000 Anyway, I went through this long answer where I said, God can bring good from evil, even when we can't see the good coming from it.

00:58:49.000 And at that point, there was a guy who was sitting about 10 feet from him, and he raised his hand.

00:58:54.000 I said, yes, sir. 0.96

00:58:56.000 He said, I know of a woman who was raped. 0.96

00:58:59.000 And the rape nearly destroyed her. 0.96

00:59:04.000 She became pregnant as a result of this rape. 1.00

00:59:07.000 His voice started to crack.

00:59:09.000 And he said, But this woman decided that she was not going to punish the baby for the sin of the father. 1.00

00:59:17.000 She decided to bring this baby to term.

00:59:19.000 By this time, he's crying in front of everybody.

00:59:23.000 And he said, That little boy grew up to be a pastor.

00:59:28.000 Who has brought many people to Jesus and discipled many people in Jesus.

00:59:34.000 And he said, that little boy was me.

00:59:37.000 And then he looked over at the atheist and he said, If my mom can bring good from evil, so can God.

00:59:47.000 I would just add one thing, which is if you have two ultrasound pictures,

00:59:57.000 one is conceived in rape, one is conceived through a monogamous consensual relationship,

01:00:01.000 you can't tell which is which.

01:00:04.000 Therefore, they both have equal rights in God's economy and both human rights.

01:00:08.000 Thank you so much.

01:00:09.000 You're welcome.

01:00:10.000 Thank you.

01:00:13.000 Hello.

01:00:14.000 My name is Noah.

01:00:17.000 First off, I'm glad you guys are here.

01:00:19.000 I'm a big fan of all you guys.

01:00:21.000 Frank Turek, your book about I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist.

01:00:25.000 I always use it all the time when I'm discussing with people who don't believe.

01:00:29.000 You know, I just say like, hey man, read this book.

01:00:31.000 You know, it's pretty good.

01:00:33.000 I'm just saying.

01:00:34.000 I like that.

01:00:35.000 Go to cross-examine, man. 0.55

01:00:36.000 It's pretty good.

01:00:37.000 Do we have this on tape?

01:00:38.000 Yeah, we have it on tape.

01:00:39.000 Yeah, and also Charlie Kirk, big fan everywhere.

01:00:45.000 I'm really glad you're speaking out pretty much on every college campus, both of you guys.

01:00:50.000 The first, I have two questions.

01:00:51.000 One is like very quick.

01:00:53.000 The first one is to Charlie Kirk.

01:00:56.000 It's funny because like there's like an old clip when Oprah was talking to Donald Trump.

01:00:59.000 He asked him this exact question and it's, if you would ever, would you ever consider running for president?

01:01:07.000 I've been asked that question before.

01:01:09.000 I'll give the Trump answer only if my country needed me.

01:01:11.000 That's what Donald Trump says.

01:01:16.000 And the next question is... Wait!

01:01:19.000 Wait!

01:01:19.000 Kirk 2032.

01:01:20.000 You never know.

01:01:20.000 32 He's only

01:01:28.000 He doesn't qualify!

01:01:30.000 Not yet, not yet, but he will.

01:01:33.000 He's gotta get to 35!

01:01:34.000 I'm not old enough.

01:01:35.000 Hey, Vivek Ramaswamy's 39, man.

01:01:38.000 Anyways, the next question is more of like a kind of, honestly, a darker question.

01:01:44.000 I'm someone who graduated from public school, and as much as I enjoyed it sometimes, some of the curriculum that I saw that really has been spoken out about, but this is like curriculum that I don't think people know about.

01:01:57.000 And it was my senior year where my teacher passed out an assignment that was pretty much Making us write something positive about all these leftist things, and one of them was transitioning as a minor, having to write something positive about it.

01:02:12.000 And me seeing that, I'm like, if they're giving this out to seniors, are they giving this out to people who are even younger?

01:02:19.000 Like in elementary school, middle school?

01:02:21.000 So my question is, how do we start to combat that?

01:02:26.000 Because obviously we see that in the universities and see that in public school.

01:02:31.000 Like, what are the steps to start combating that?

01:02:34.000 And all you guys can answer.

01:02:36.000 Well, we need to start going to school board meetings as we are.

01:02:43.000 Amachukwu.

01:02:44.000 Tell them about John.

01:02:45.000 We send Pastor John Amachukwu.

01:02:47.000 You should have him at this church.

01:02:48.000 He's amazing.

01:02:49.000 Big Pastor John, I'll tell you what.

01:02:51.000 We bring him to school board meetings across the country and he does this very, very tricky thing.

01:02:56.000 It's forbidden.

01:02:58.000 He reads the books that the kids have in their library at the school board meetings.

01:03:03.000 Have you seen these videos?

01:03:05.000 And it's so great.

01:03:07.000 So he'll start, you know, reading the graphic pornography that are given to these eight-year-olds, right?

01:03:12.000 So graphic that if I said it, you would boot me off stage, and you should.

01:03:16.000 And so he starts reading what's okay for the eight-year-olds.

01:03:19.000 And the school board says, that's enough.

01:03:20.000 Stop it.

01:03:21.000 This is too much.

01:03:22.000 So it's too much for the adults at the school board meeting, but perfectly fine for the eight and nine-year-olds at the local classroom.

01:03:29.000 And these clips go so viral.

01:03:30.000 Hey, Charlie, didn't Governor DeSantis do that once, too?

01:03:34.000 Yeah, and honestly, God bless DeSantis, because they went hard after him.

01:03:37.000 They say, oh, these are the don't-say-gay books.

01:03:39.000 This is a very important lesson of if you want to defeat the left, you must show, not tell.

01:03:44.000 And so you must show what's actually in these books.

01:03:47.000 Look in these books, and you see these books, it is pornographic of what they're giving these children.

01:03:53.000 I'm gonna say something.

01:03:54.000 If you have the means and the ability, and even if you don't, try to push towards it, please take your kids out of government schools.

01:04:00.000 Do not send your kids to government schools.

01:04:04.000 Trump's the best president in the world!

01:04:05.000 You guys got a great school. Pastor Furrow does. Homeschool your kids. Do not send your kids...

01:04:11.000 If you can, because that's really the basis of the problem.

01:04:14.000 So I'm going to try to get to a couple more, Frank.

01:04:16.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:04:17.000 Thank you. I know that shirt.

01:04:19.000 Trump's the best president in the world. All the presidents.

01:04:24.000 Is that a thing of Zin too?

01:04:27.000 Huh?

01:04:27.000 Yeah, I have a package of Zen, yeah.

01:04:30.000 They're trying to stop me from doing it.

01:04:32.000 They're trying to ban that.

01:04:34.000 They're trying to ban Zen, but not abortions. 0.88

01:04:36.000 Can you believe that?

01:04:37.000 Yeah, good luck.

01:04:46.000 So, the young girls in front of me had the question I wanted to ask.

01:04:50.000 I kind of already knew the answer.

01:04:52.000 But, uh, I have another question.

01:04:54.000 I have a warrior mentality, and I'm willing to give up my seat to heaven to make sure a pedophile never goes to heaven.

01:05:01.000 I'm really struggling with that.

01:05:03.000 Because I know God's gonna forgive anybody.

01:05:06.000 So you say a pedophile, right?

01:05:09.000 Yes. 0.78

01:05:09.000 Okay. 0.78

01:05:10.000 Like, I don't have no—there's no—I can't forgive them.

01:05:14.000 Yeah.

01:05:14.000 You can't forgive pedophiles.

01:05:16.000 Yeah.

01:05:18.000 I was driving to our staff meeting back in the 90s, and on Tuesday morning, and I'm listening to Dr. James Dobson.

01:05:29.000 And he talked about going into the prison and meeting with Jeffrey Dahmer. 0.53

01:05:34.000 Now, Jeffrey Dahmer was the homosexual cannibal, and a friend of mine says, you don't have to say homosexual cannibal, you can just say cannibal. 0.97

01:05:41.000 That's enough. 0.99

01:05:42.000 But he was.

01:05:45.000 Now, when James Opson came out of there, he said that Jeffrey Dahmer gave his life to Christ.

01:05:52.000 That he became a Christian.

01:05:53.000 Now, I'm driving to church and I say, that can't be.

01:05:58.000 Because, like, cannibalism is the line.

01:06:02.000 If you eat people, you can't go to heaven.

01:06:04.000 If you don't eat people, then you're okay.

01:06:07.000 But cannibalism has to be the line.

01:06:10.000 And the Lord just, I mean, I'm 32, 33 at the time.

01:06:13.000 How old are you?

01:06:15.000 30.

01:06:15.000 Okay, so I'm 32, 33 at the time.

01:06:17.000 And I just, I hear, I just, and I don't say the Lord spoke to me much, okay?

01:06:21.000 It's not, it's not my gig.

01:06:22.000 I don't do that.

01:06:23.000 But I felt the Lord just say, wasn't the cross enough?

01:06:29.000 The blood, the nails that went through his flesh and into that tree as they laughed at him and they mocked him for his faith.

01:06:36.000 Why was the cross so brutal? 0.86

01:06:37.000 Why couldn't they just behead him? 0.99

01:06:39.000 They tortured him on that cross because that's for every sin that's ever been committed from any rapist and pedophile and cannibal that's out there. 0.99

01:06:49.000 If I were the God of the universe, would I do that? 0.97

01:06:51.000 No.

01:06:52.000 I'll be honest with you, I wouldn't do it.

01:06:54.000 But God says His ways are as high above our ways as the heavens are above the earth.

01:06:59.000 And He is incredibly merciful.

01:07:02.000 So thank you for your question.

01:07:06.000 If they repent.

01:07:08.000 Let me take a moment before this night goes too much longer, alright?

01:07:10.000 So we're going to do another thing, but I just want to give you guys, because I realize that some of you here don't know Christ, okay?

01:07:16.000 You've never invited Christ into your life.

01:07:19.000 So the Bible says that in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, that I'm going to give you what I received, that you received and you stood on and you were saved by.

01:07:31.000 The Gospel.

01:07:33.000 Romans 1.16 says, I'm not ashamed of the gospel, Paul said.

01:07:38.000 It is the power of God to salvation.

01:07:40.000 So we're talking about earthly things here.

01:07:42.000 We're talking about the next four years.

01:07:43.000 We're talking about the next whatever it is before Jesus comes back or before we go to be with Him.

01:07:49.000 But if you die, are you going to go to hell?

01:07:53.000 If you die, are you going to go to heaven?

01:07:57.000 Because however you vote here can be good or it can be bad, but that is unchangeable.

01:08:04.000 You have to believe that Jesus died for your sins according to the scriptures.

01:08:09.000 It was foretold.

01:08:10.000 I can give you the gospel from the Old Testament.

01:08:12.000 He died for your sins according to the scriptures, and then he was buried, and he rose again according to the scriptures.

01:08:19.000 And the Old Testament foretells his resurrection.

01:08:23.000 He lived so that you could live forever.

01:08:27.000 And then it says he appeared to Peter and to Cephas and to James and to 500 people at one time.

01:08:32.000 So this is during the time, that's written during the time these people are still alive.

01:08:37.000 Which is a really important point.

01:08:38.000 Because you can't say things when a bunch of people are still alive, like he appeared to 500 people and people go, no he didn't, no he wasn't there.

01:08:45.000 So I want to ask you a question.

01:08:47.000 And I'll make this quick, it's not an altar call.

01:08:48.000 I'm not going to make you raise your hand, okay?

01:08:51.000 Or say a prayer.

01:08:52.000 But if you invite Jesus into your life, you can be saved.

01:08:56.000 And this is very biblical.

01:08:57.000 John 1, 12.

01:08:58.000 As many as receive him, he gives the right to become a child of God to those who believe in his name.

01:09:04.000 You can pray something like, Lord, I want you in my life.

01:09:06.000 I'm sorry.

01:09:07.000 I've sinned against you.

01:09:08.000 That's confession.

01:09:10.000 I've sinned against you, God.

01:09:11.000 Come into my life and forgive me.

01:09:14.000 I want to follow you.

01:09:15.000 You will be changed.

01:09:17.000 The Bible says, Whom God foreknew, he predestined.

01:09:21.000 The Bible says that God knew about us beforehand, so He chose us.

01:09:25.000 So if you give your life to Christ tonight, God knew you would give your life to Him tonight, and He chose you, and He's got a plan for you.

01:09:31.000 He predestined your life from this point forward, because God knows everything that happens, and He knew tonight that you would give your life to Christ.

01:09:38.000 So, don't secure the next 8 years, or 12 years, and not secure your eternity.

01:09:45.000 I'm not telling you either-or, I'm saying secure your eternity.

01:09:50.000 Because hell is forever.

01:09:53.000 Alright?

01:09:54.000 I just wanted to get that out.

01:09:54.000 Let's take a few more questions, let's hold a little bit longer, and we'll do it.

01:09:57.000 Can I just say one thing about... I don't want us to lose track either of that this is a fundraiser for Hands of Hope.

01:10:07.000 Alright?

01:10:07.000 So we want to make sure that no matter what happens politically, Hands of Hope is going to do some good.

01:10:16.000 So make sure that you support Hands of Hope.

01:10:22.000 And I want to say one thing, because it hasn't come up yet, but this needs to be said.

01:10:26.000 Because I sense that many people in here are going to vote according to the platform that most lines up with the Bible.

01:10:33.000 But there may be people out there that you know who say, well, I just I don't like either candidate.

01:10:39.000 Let me mention something to you.

01:10:40.000 When you're voting for president, you're not voting for one candidate.

01:10:44.000 You're voting for 5,000 people to go to Washington and implement a platform.

01:10:50.000 You need to look at the platform, and you need to see where these parties line up.

01:10:55.000 And when you look at the platform, you will see that the far more biblical platform is the platform of the Republicans.

01:11:04.000 I'm sorry, that's just the way it is.

01:11:06.000 Now, I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat, I'm a Christian.

01:11:14.000 If 20 years from now this flips, I'll be voting Democrat.

01:11:18.000 Okay, do you see what I'm saying here?

01:11:20.000 If the Democrats have a better platform 20 years from now, I'll vote that.

01:11:24.000 I'm voting for what the Bible says and what natural law says.

01:11:32.000 Alright, let's take two more questions and we're done, alright?

01:11:35.000 So we'll take one from each microphone and we're done, alright?

01:11:38.000 So you guys are the winners, all you guys in line.

01:11:40.000 I'm sorry, alright?

01:11:42.000 So, go first.

01:11:44.000 Make questioning great again!

01:11:45.000 Give me your name again, I can never remember your name.

01:11:48.000 Yeah.

01:11:48.000 Vion!

01:11:49.000 I'll remember Vion.

01:11:49.000 Thanks, man.

01:11:50.000 I talk to you a lot.

01:11:51.000 I know, and I never remember.

01:11:53.000 It's so sad.

01:11:55.000 I have a question.

01:11:56.000 So, the devil tempted Jesus, and you know a lot about a Bible, and the Bible, he quoted from it.

01:12:02.000 Yep.

01:12:02.000 And there are some, well, I'll just say it.

01:12:04.000 The left is far from Christ, yet they know Christ.

01:12:09.000 So I have a question.

01:12:10.000 When they use passages like 1 Samuel 15 3, Where David's supposed to spare no one and kill everybody.

01:12:17.000 Yeah.

01:12:18.000 Or even Deuteronomy 21, where Moses talks about the father and the mother killing and stoning the child.

01:12:27.000 How are we supposed to combat that other than saying, oh, reading context?

01:12:31.000 Because those people that are pro-abortion can use that against us.

01:12:34.000 Yeah.

01:12:36.000 Yeah.

01:12:36.000 Let me say this that I want to hand over to Frank, because I'm sure he's got a couple things for it.

01:12:41.000 There's a book by Craig Keener called, Is God a Moral Monster?

01:12:46.000 Paul Copan, thank you.

01:12:46.000 Paul Copan.

01:12:48.000 Craig Keener is in Miracles Today.

01:12:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:51.000 So, Paul Copan called, Is God a Moral Monster?

01:12:55.000 And he deals with things like this.

01:12:57.000 He goes into the Old Testament in these passages.

01:13:00.000 As far as killing everybody, he talks about hyperbolic language.

01:13:03.000 That was hyperbolic language in those days.

01:13:06.000 Like, we might say here in the football season that the Bears, you know, waxed the, you know, who they played.

01:13:13.000 Well, that would not happen.

01:13:16.000 But we would go... The Bears annihilated them! 0.58

01:13:18.000 The Bears got annihilated on Sunday.

01:13:19.000 The Bears annihilated the Rams, or whatever it is.

01:13:22.000 Bears were annihilating Rams in those days?

01:13:24.000 So, there's hyperbolic language.

01:13:26.000 But if it isn't, If it's not. 0.97

01:13:30.000 And God said, kill all the Canaanites because they have been sacrificing their babies to Molech. 1.00

01:13:40.000 And God wanted to get rid of that evil. 0.98

01:13:43.000 God could cause an earthquake and decide all of us would die here today.

01:13:47.000 And God could use the nation of Israel as a judgment against the Canaanites if God chose to do that.

01:13:54.000 And He could have the lives of them taken if He chose to do it.

01:13:58.000 So, the hyperbolic answer?

01:13:59.000 Maybe.

01:14:00.000 But...

01:14:01.000 Look, who am I to talk to God about how He's going to judge a nation for what they've done?

01:14:05.000 That was only one of the sins that the Canaanites had done. 1.00

01:14:08.000 Israel began to do the same thing.

01:14:10.000 An Israel king sacrificed his child to Molech, and God drove them from the land. 1.00

01:14:17.000 He did the same thing.

01:14:18.000 Jeremiah 7.

01:14:18.000 Yeah.

01:14:19.000 He drove them from the land for doing the same thing, because they did the same thing in the Canaanites. 0.98

01:14:22.000 God told them, don't let the Canaanites in. 1.00

01:14:26.000 How could God say, when you talk about God annihilating, and then God said, drive them from the land.

01:14:31.000 So there has to be something there, right?

01:14:32.000 Because God says, annihilate them, drive them from the land.

01:14:35.000 They don't do that. 0.97

01:14:36.000 They don't drive them from the land.

01:14:37.000 It comes in and contaminates them, and they're driven from, and I think there's probably remnants of that around today.

01:14:44.000 Frank, you got anything in there?

01:14:47.000 I would add one other thing in that God has the authority to take life anytime He wants.

01:14:52.000 Look, if Christianity is true, people don't die, they just change location.

01:14:56.000 They go from this life to the next life, and it's up to God when that happens.

01:15:00.000 We don't have that capacity or that right, because we're not the creator of life, we can't resurrect it.

01:15:05.000 But God can, and it is judgment in the Old Testament.

01:15:08.000 By the way, he did it to Israel, as Pastor Furrow just said, in Jeremiah 7.

01:15:11.000 He also did it to the Israelites after they worshipped the golden calf. 0.93

01:15:15.000 3,000 were killed that day.

01:15:16.000 It's judgment.

01:15:18.000 But one other thing.

01:15:18.000 I was at a college in Oklahoma and a young woman got up there to the microphone and said, I can't believe in a good God because he kills people in the Old Testament.

01:15:26.000 And I said, hey, where are you on the abortion issue?

01:15:27.000 And she said, I'm pro-choice.

01:15:31.000 And I said, can I ask you a question?

01:15:32.000 Why is it that when God plays God in the Old Testament and decides who lives and dies, he's immoral, but when you play God here on earth and decide who lives and dies with regard to abortion, that's your moral right? 0.74

01:15:45.000 Can you justify that for me?

01:15:49.000 Look, just because God can do something doesn't mean we can.

01:15:53.000 If God wants to take any one of us out right now, He can.

01:15:57.000 And that's His prerogative, because He is the Judge, He's the Creator, and He can resurrect us.

01:16:02.000 No, and I'll just add one more thing to it.

01:16:05.000 God destroyed the city of Sodom.

01:16:07.000 Men, women, children. 0.93

01:16:09.000 For the sin of Sodom.

01:16:11.000 And people don't ever ask me that question.

01:16:13.000 They ask me questions about the Annihilation, but they don't ever ask me, why did God kill men, women, and children in Sodom?

01:16:19.000 And the city of Sodom has been discovered.

01:16:23.000 They found the city.

01:16:24.000 And it's got a burn line right in the exact time that it was supposed to have happened.

01:16:29.000 We're living in a time of the greatest archaeological discoveries that speak about what happened in the Bible and what God did in judgment.

01:16:38.000 And so we do know that God judged men, women, and children.

01:16:41.000 Now, I personally believe that children went to heaven.

01:16:43.000 And I think I can make a biblical case for that.

01:16:45.000 That babies go to heaven, that children who don't know the right hand from their left go to heaven.

01:16:50.000 I've got a teaching out on it on YouTube.

01:16:52.000 I think it's called, you know, do children go to heaven?

01:16:54.000 I was real creative that day.

01:16:56.000 Do children go to heaven?

01:16:58.000 But I can make a case for that.

01:16:59.000 But nevertheless, they were part of the judgment that God brought to that.

01:17:03.000 All right?

01:17:04.000 Thanks, man.

01:17:04.000 I appreciate it.

01:17:05.000 And speaking of this autumn thing, they're finding sulfur balls and they're lighting them on fire.

01:17:10.000 It's crazy.

01:17:11.000 Praise God, man.

01:17:12.000 That's awesome.

01:17:12.000 It really is true.

01:17:15.000 It really is true.

01:17:17.000 All right, last one.

01:17:18.000 You have the privilege.

01:17:19.000 All eyes are on me.

01:17:20.000 Charlie, thank you so much for what you're doing.

01:17:23.000 I would be a proud mom to have you as a child, as a son.

01:17:28.000 Your wife, God bless her. 0.99

01:17:32.000 You have been busy, busy, busy.

01:17:34.000 I've been at the rallies.

01:17:35.000 I've been at the JD Vance.

01:17:38.000 I've been all over and I've seen you all over.

01:17:40.000 You're very welcome.

01:17:43.000 1997, I got pregnant with my first baby and he was 18 weeks in utero, 20 weeks.

01:17:51.000 They wanted me to terminate my pregnancy because he had a single heart ventricle.

01:17:57.000 And I just prayed on it.

01:18:00.000 I just, the doctors were gonna know better than me because they told me he wouldn't survive when he was born.

01:18:08.000 So needless to say, I went ahead and had him in May of 1997.

01:18:14.000 We went through three open heart surgeries.

01:18:16.000 He has a pacemaker dependent.

01:18:18.000 He's 27 years old now.

01:18:20.000 He's a mechanic at Desert Toyota.

01:18:24.000 He loves you.

01:18:28.000 Loves you.

01:18:28.000 So we have followed you.

01:18:29.000 He showed me your podcast and I have just started to follow you left and right.

01:18:36.000 What do you do when the doctors are telling you you need to terminate your pregnancy because it's not going to be viable for you?

01:18:43.000 Your body, your choice.

01:18:45.000 Laughter and applause I have no data to support this.

01:18:54.000 Every pro-life event I go to, I hear dozens of stories just like that, of women that trust their intuition and the Holy Spirit, that were up against these pressure doctors, and now their kids are healthy and they are great.

01:19:08.000 And yes, there might have been challenges.

01:19:11.000 So, first of all, credit to you for listening to the Holy Spirit, and you deserve a lot of encouragement and credit.

01:19:21.000 And just also understand that what they were presenting you with was assured death, and you said, well, might as well trust and see if there is a way.

01:19:31.000 I said, if you're not taking him out of this world, God is.

01:19:37.000 So we had him.

01:19:38.000 If he was going to die at two weeks old, he coded flatlined at six months.

01:19:44.000 20 minutes, he was flatlined.

01:19:46.000 So, and they didn't know if he was gonna be normal, or how much oxygen he lost, but he is now.

01:19:52.000 He was supposed to come with me, but he wasn't feeling good, because we had been at, um, Tucker Carlson.

01:19:57.000 We've been to JD Place.

01:19:58.000 You're all over the place.

01:20:00.000 All right, thank you.

01:20:03.000 God bless you.

01:20:03.000 Thank you so much.

01:20:04.000 Everybody, we need volunteers!

01:20:06.000 We need volunteers to get the vote out!

01:20:08.000 Thank you.

01:20:09.000 Charlie, can he, uh, I want Charlie, if it's okay, Pastor, to tell these people what they can do to help with voting and all that.

01:20:22.000 Can you do that?

01:20:22.000 Super.

01:20:22.000 I can do this quickly, everybody.

01:20:24.000 So, look, we are in an opportunity right now where we need not be spectators but participants.

01:20:29.000 We need to engage in voting month, okay?

01:20:32.000 Election Day is the last day of voting.

01:20:34.000 If we want to defeat 139, we must do what is called chasing ballots.

01:20:39.000 Okay?

01:20:39.000 So there are millions of ballots that get sent out throughout the state of Arizona on October 9th.

01:20:43.000 Ready, set, go.

01:20:44.000 Whatever side is able to knock on enough doors and get people to send those ballots in early is going to be successful.

01:20:50.000 I know what you're saying, Charlie.

01:20:52.000 I don't want to vote early.

01:20:52.000 I want to vote on election day.

01:20:53.000 That's fine.

01:20:54.000 I'm not telling you how to change your habits.

01:20:55.000 I'm trying to have you change the habit of a voter that didn't vote in 2020.

01:21:00.000 It's better to send in an early ballot and vote than not vote at all.

01:21:03.000 So we have a thing called Commit 100 at Turning Point Action.

01:21:06.000 You guys can go to the Turning Point Action booth outside and saying, I'm going to go find 100 voters.

01:21:11.000 We will literally show you the mobile application, Turning Point Action, of 100 voters in your local area.

01:21:17.000 And you can go knock on the doors and tell them, go vote no on 139.

01:21:20.000 Go vote no on 139.

01:21:22.000 Go vote no on 139.

01:21:24.000 We will give you the mobile technology to do that here in Tucson.

01:21:27.000 In 2020, Joe Biden won this county, Pima County, by 97,000 votes.

01:21:33.000 If we do 20,000 votes better, there's almost no way that Kamala Harris wins the state of Arizona. 1.00

01:21:39.000 Almost no way.

01:21:40.000 If we do 20,000 votes better.

01:21:42.000 So, you have 2,000 people here tonight.

01:21:46.000 If every one of you find 10 votes that either did not vote in 2020 or a flipped vote from 2020, this room could flip Pima County, win Arizona, and save the United States of America.

01:21:58.000 So go to Turning Point Action booth, sign up to get involved, and download the Turning Point Action app.

01:22:02.000 Thank you guys so much.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 29, 2024

A Vote For President is a Vote for 5,000 People: My Appearance at Calvary Chapel Tucson

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