The Charlie Kirk Show - AmFest 2025 Day 2

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.

00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful.

00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.

00:00:33.000 Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter.

00:00:35.000 Go find out how your church can get involved.

00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.

00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.

00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.

00:00:45.000 Here I am.

00:00:46.000 Lord, use me.

00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here we go.

00:00:56.000 The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.

00:01:20.000 All right, everybody.

00:01:21.000 Let's just do this for two hours.

00:01:23.000 Let's just do this.

00:01:24.000 I don't want to stop you.

00:01:25.000 I don't want to stop you because that's amazing.

00:01:27.000 That was the best I felt in three months.

00:01:29.000 We are live from America Fest 2025, and we are doing it in Charlie Kirk's honor.

00:01:35.000 This is a tradition of America Fest, and we are keeping it alive.

00:01:41.000 And I want to look to my right here.

00:01:43.000 The great Steve Bannon is joining us as his traditions.

00:01:49.000 Steve and I were texting last night, and I was like, Steve, you know we have to do it.

00:01:53.000 We have to do it.

00:01:54.000 And your instant response was, yeah, because that's what me and Charlie did.

00:01:58.000 We have to keep it going.

00:01:59.000 So thank you for doing it.

00:02:00.000 No, thanks for having us.

00:02:01.000 And we just love being a real America's voice and do the transition to you guys every day, every day of the week.

00:02:08.000 Steve, while we have you, I want to ask you a question.

00:02:10.000 What does AmericaFest mean?

00:02:12.000 Why is it important that we gather like this?

00:02:14.000 It's always been important.

00:02:15.000 You know, the Student Action Summit in the summer, AmericaFest at the end of the year, it's always been important.

00:02:20.000 This year, obviously, not simply the assassination, but everything Charlie stood for.

00:02:25.000 We've got the toughest year.

00:02:27.000 I went back in the first show.

00:02:28.000 We won in 16.

00:02:29.000 We lost.

00:02:30.000 The only time we lost was 18.

00:02:32.000 We won in 20.

00:02:33.000 We won in 22.

00:02:34.000 We won in 24.

00:02:36.000 We are on a roll.

00:02:37.000 And Charlie Kirk knew better than anybody what it took to win.

00:02:41.000 Look what he did in 22 midterms.

00:02:43.000 Look what he did in 2024.

00:02:45.000 We've got the hardest year in front of us because as soon as the economy starts to turn around, these people are demonic.

00:02:53.000 And what they're going to do is come with more political violence, more of their madness, more of their craziness.

00:02:59.000 Charlie Kirk knew that.

00:03:00.000 That's why he went to the lion's den every day, you know, every day of the week.

00:03:04.000 That guy was a hero, a patriot, and one of the greatest Americans, not just of this generation, but any generation.

00:03:11.000 That's why I think Amfest, and look, there's over 30,000 people, and everybody's very enthusiastic.

00:03:16.000 I think 70% of the people have never been to an Amfest before.

00:03:19.000 So this shows you the power of this movement.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:03:23.000 And in Charlie's honor, I want to play a clip from Charlie at this exact location last year, December 2024, PlayCut 223.

00:03:32.000 Young men are the most conservative they have been in over 50 years. 0.72

00:03:39.000 50 years.

00:03:42.000 Think about that.

00:03:44.000 Now, a reporter asked me, they said, Charlie, can you try to explain this phenomenon?

00:03:49.000 I said, yeah, it's very simple.

00:03:51.000 Young men want to be part of a political movement that doesn't hate them.

00:03:58.000 In fact, let me go a step further.

00:04:00.000 That thinks they're essential to a future of a country.

00:04:05.000 That we need strong men and strong women.

00:04:08.000 That we're sick and tired of hearing about toxic masculinity when we are drowning in toxic femininity.

00:04:15.000 That's the great Charlie Kirk, everybody.

00:04:18.000 The great Charlie Kirk.

00:04:21.000 We miss him every day.

00:04:22.000 Steve, there's going to be a lot.

00:04:25.000 There's already been a lot of ink spilled.

00:04:26.000 You know, MAGA Civil War, Conservative Civil War.

00:04:29.000 Obviously, we had a pretty spicy opening night.

00:04:33.000 What do you think is the most important theme, the through line that we need to hit?

00:04:39.000 Also from the main stage, but amongst the people in the crowd, people at the breakouts.

00:04:43.000 What's the theme here?

00:04:45.000 Look, we're always going to have differences.

00:04:47.000 Some of these differences are big.

00:04:48.000 They're important.

00:04:49.000 They've got to be worked out.

00:04:50.000 But as Charlie Kirk knew better than anybody, there is no substitute for victory, right?

00:04:58.000 We've got to keep, if we lose the midterms, the entire revolution is going to get ground down.

00:05:04.000 Charlie Kirk knew this is what Amfest, the theme of this was going to be driving forward, what we have to do to drive forward with victory.

00:05:11.000 In the case of there are going to be some people in this movement that fundamentally disagree on some pretty basic stuff.

00:05:18.000 We've got to work those things out.

00:05:19.000 And it's going to be worked out.

00:05:21.000 Okay?

00:05:21.000 It's going to be worked out.

00:05:22.000 But that can't take our eye off the ball of what Charlie Kirk taught us.

00:05:27.000 Charlie Kirk taught us victory, victory, victory.

00:05:31.000 And that's what we've got to focus on this year.

00:05:35.000 Jack, same question to you because I know that you're going to be thrown into the lion's den here.

00:05:40.000 You're going to be, you know, you're going to get that same question.

00:05:43.000 What do you talk about?

00:05:44.000 Exactly.

00:05:44.000 Well, this is my point for everybody out there.

00:05:47.000 Fear not when you see those headlines because conservatives, we're a rowdy bunch.

00:05:51.000 We're a raucous bunch.

00:05:52.000 We want to disagree in public.

00:05:54.000 And by the way, if they try and tell you that some consensus has been reached on an issue without this public debate, without having it out, we're not going to believe it anyways.

00:06:02.000 The kids aren't going to believe it anyways. 0.96

00:06:03.000 They're going to call garbage on it. 0.95

00:06:05.000 They're not going to believe it. 0.95

00:06:06.000 And we're not going to have a consensus.

00:06:07.000 And we're going to be further behind than we were.

00:06:09.000 So we need to do this sometimes.

00:06:10.000 We need to have these disagreements.

00:06:12.000 Don't let yourself be troubled.

00:06:14.000 Trust me.

00:06:14.000 Jack, you're going to be up there.

00:06:15.000 You're going to be having some of these disagreements.

00:06:18.000 What is your message for Amfest 2025?

00:06:20.000 For the period, I'm working on a little secret operation that will be revealed at a later time this weekend.

00:06:28.000 So I'm not just sitting here texting away some logistic issues that we're dealing with for something that I think everybody is going to be very interested in finding out tomorrow.

00:06:39.000 And that's really all I can leave it at that.

00:06:42.000 Oh, come on, Jack.

00:06:43.000 No, Sworn to secrecy.

00:06:45.000 Sworn to secrecy.

00:06:46.000 Operational security.

00:06:47.000 Bannon, you know about OPSEC.

00:06:49.000 You need operational security on this one.

00:06:51.000 But let me say, I'm not being rude.

00:06:52.000 I'm taking care of something.

00:06:54.000 Look, look.

00:06:56.000 The division that you are seeing now is very clear.

00:06:59.000 The division that they're bringing up, the messages they're saying, and it's very simple.

00:07:05.000 The 2028 primary has already begun.

00:07:08.000 It's already begun.

00:07:09.000 This is a proxy war for people who are trying to prop up people for the 2028 primary.

00:07:15.000 So I say, if that's what you're really doing, then cut to the chase.

00:07:20.000 Be a man.

00:07:21.000 Tell us the truth.

00:07:22.000 Tell us what you really want.

00:07:23.000 All right?

00:07:24.000 And let's do a little poll.

00:07:25.000 Why don't we do a little poll since we're here and we've got so many people?

00:07:28.000 Charlie loved to do the A-B testing.

00:07:30.000 Remember?

00:07:31.000 Loved to do this when we had a big crowd.

00:07:33.000 So let's see.

00:07:34.000 Who out there wants Ted Cruz to be the nominee in 2028?

00:07:41.000 All right.

00:07:43.000 How about Governor Ron DeSantis?

00:07:48.000 How about Nikki Haley?

00:07:54.000 How about Stephen K. Bannon?

00:08:02.000 Steve, the Supreme Court does say that we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

00:08:12.000 But, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:08:15.000 I've got my candidate, and he's a convict, too.

00:08:18.000 Donald Trump!

00:08:22.000 All right, and last question, last question, last question while we're here.

00:08:25.000 How about Vice President JD Vance?

00:08:33.000 All right, so that's the straw ball that I'm going with.

00:08:35.000 That's where we're at.

00:08:36.000 And if you want to support a different candidate, we have a free country.

00:08:40.000 You're free to do so.

00:08:41.000 But I'm sick of the name-calling and the angle-biting.

00:08:44.000 Just be a man and tell me what you're about.

00:08:47.000 Yeah, well said, Jack.

00:08:48.000 Well said, Jack.

00:08:50.000 Steve, we got one minute left here.

00:08:52.000 I want you to...

00:08:53.000 You say whatever is on your mind.

00:08:55.000 Steve, you got one minute left here.

00:08:56.000 First of all, I'm so proud of you guys of how you continue the tradition of Charlie Kirk.

00:09:03.000 It's been so easy for Erica and Andrew and you and Tyler and Jack and you, all you guys, to just throw it in, throw in the towel and say, hey, you know, we can't do this.

00:09:13.000 We want to unwind it.

00:09:14.000 It's bigger.

00:09:15.000 It's more powerful.

00:09:16.000 It's more focused.

00:09:18.000 It's more necessary for the country of what Amphest is doing, not just for young people, but for all people.

00:09:24.000 You guys, it's upon your shoulders that President Trump won the 2024 election.

00:09:31.000 And we've got a lot of other tough fights to go.

00:09:33.000 I couldn't think of anybody better than this team to lead Amphest, to lead Turning Point, and just let's go forth and conquer.

00:09:43.000 Well said.

00:09:45.000 We can't wait for your speech tonight.

00:09:47.000 It's going to be a barn burner.

00:09:48.000 We know it.

00:09:49.000 So everybody's going to go to Steve's speech right now.

00:09:52.000 I promise, I promise I'm going to come in a little hot.

00:09:58.000 I think he just promised another spicy meatball.

00:10:00.000 So we're going to find out.

00:10:02.000 We're going to throw it to the great Ben Berkwomb, who's talking with folks in the crowd.

00:10:06.000 Ben, what you got for us?

00:10:07.000 Hey, we've got an amazing crowd.

00:10:08.000 Been waiting through War Room now here at Charlie Kirk Show.

00:10:12.000 Tell us your name, where you're from, and really significant why Amphest and Turning Point mean so much to you.

00:10:19.000 Yes, my name is Wendy Huang, and I'm running for Congress.

00:10:22.000 And the reason I'm here today is because Charlie Kirk is the one that inspired me in January 2021.

00:10:28.000 And saying, you know, he was a young man.

00:10:30.000 I was so inspiring, saying, hey, get involved locally.

00:10:33.000 And, you know, just start doing something.

00:10:35.000 And then don't yell at the TV and get involved.

00:10:37.000 So that's what I did.

00:10:38.000 So I started attending city council meetings.

00:10:41.000 And then I ran for city council.

00:10:43.000 I fought successfully against the cannabis in my district and also restore medical freedom for college students during COVID.

00:10:52.000 And now I'm going to run for Congress.

00:10:53.000 So we'll keep fighting and make America golly again and make America greatest again.

00:11:00.000 And keep the light on because when light shines, darkness disappears.

00:11:04.000 So I need a lot of help, a lot of prayers, a lot of help.

00:11:07.000 How many people do that?

00:11:09.000 Wendy Huang for Congress.com.

00:11:12.000 Help Wendy win with Wendy. 1.00

00:11:14.000 Thank you.

00:11:14.000 If you don't know where my district is, it's Eric Swalvos District.

00:11:18.000 Thank you.

00:11:19.000 The belly of the beast.

00:11:20.000 All right, speaking of California, of course, here to honor Charlie Kirk.

00:11:27.000 I volunteer at Reform California, and we need everybody in California to pay attention to that.

00:11:34.000 I'm also here to lobby to President Trump.

00:11:40.000 It can't be the golden age without the golden state.

00:11:45.000 And we need President Trump to come to California and to work with whoever the candidate is for governor and let's win California back.

00:11:55.000 Otherwise, it's almost too late.

00:11:58.000 I mean, that's where we're at.

00:11:59.000 And furthermore, I agree with Mr. Bennon what's going to happen.

00:12:03.000 The people of America are going to see and have already seen what they're going to really see as this next year evolves.

00:12:11.000 And I don't think we'll have a problem, but we can't sit on our laurels.

00:12:15.000 We're going to keep fighting every day.

00:12:17.000 How many people are local Arizonans?

00:12:20.000 How many are from California?

00:12:22.000 Let's get some California.

00:12:23.000 Give me a shout.

00:12:24.000 Give me a shout.

00:12:27.000 How many are from the East Coast?

00:12:31.000 There we go.

00:12:32.000 I hate Caleb and Michelle.

00:12:34.000 How many are from the Midwest?

00:12:38.000 How many are from the Dakotas?

00:12:41.000 Hey, I see a hand.

00:12:42.000 All right, we got one.

00:12:43.000 How many?

00:12:44.000 All right.

00:12:44.000 Hey, how many first-timers?

00:12:46.000 I asked the right question.

00:12:47.000 Look at your voices heard.

00:12:49.000 We've got, I think it's between 70 and 80% first-timers.

00:12:53.000 Unbelievable.

00:12:54.000 Yeah, which is unbelievable.

00:12:55.000 And when you throw these kind of events, you understand how remarkable that truly is.

00:12:59.000 We're joined by Graham Allen.

00:13:00.000 Give it up for Graham Allen, everybody.

00:13:02.000 Graham!

00:13:02.000 Yeah, baby!

00:13:04.000 Boy.

00:13:05.000 Graham, you've been phenomenal after everything that happened with Charlie.

00:13:11.000 You're going to be speaking on the main stage.

00:13:13.000 Your channel's blowing up.

00:13:15.000 Tell us what this means to you to be here in Charlie's honor.

00:13:19.000 It means everything to be here in Charlie's honor, to see what it's turned into, to see from being there in the very early days with Charlie, seeing the vision, everything, and then seeing all these amazing people.

00:13:31.000 Let's give it up for Charlie one more time.

00:13:33.000 Come on, everybody.

00:13:33.000 Let's go.

00:13:35.000 I do have the honor of speaking tomorrow night, which I think it's funny that you guys put me on Faith Night to try to calm me down on what I might say on the stage.

00:13:46.000 That's Jesus Night, Graham.

00:13:47.000 You've got to be.

00:13:48.000 If you've ever seen a Graham Allen rant, you can understand why we played that the way we played it.

00:13:54.000 Yes, yes.

00:13:55.000 So I'll take this opportunity just to say I agree with Steve very much.

00:13:59.000 You know, just like we were talking about, the thing about our movement is this.

00:14:03.000 I was talking with the vice president not too long ago, and the vice president even said, the greatest thing about our side that differentiates us from the left is we do have open dialogue.

00:14:14.000 We do have debate.

00:14:15.000 And sometimes we fight.

00:14:17.000 And sometimes those fights are nasty.

00:14:20.000 Sometimes those fights are there.

00:14:22.000 But at least you know we don't operate in this hive mind mentality that somebody can call down from the top and then everybody falls in line.

00:14:29.000 So here's what I'm going to say.

00:14:32.000 These are conversations that need to be had.

00:14:34.000 These are fights that need to be had to the people that do what we do that are afraid and give these blanket statements instead of calling out what they mean, who they're talking about, why they disagree, and their evidence for why they disagree about it.

00:14:50.000 It's time to stand up, be men and women, stand in the principles of which you believe, and have the fight, have The dialogue in open space and then let the American people decide where they stand, and then that's how we win.

00:15:03.000 Charlie would be the first person to say that these conversations need to happen because he was mission-first mentality.

00:15:10.000 And the mission is to make heaven crowded.

00:15:13.000 And how do we make heaven crowded?

00:15:15.000 We keep America the freest, most generous, most prosperous nation in the world free so we can spread the good news of Jesus Christ every single day because that's the ultimate goal in this country and that's the mission that we have to fight.

00:15:28.000 All right, so for the well said, Graham, for those of you who may not know yet, Blake Neff is a student of history.

00:15:34.000 He's a student of political, philosophical, religious history, European history.

00:15:38.000 Don't get him started.

00:15:40.000 Blake, when you're talking about the history of coalitions, what are we facing right now?

00:15:44.000 Is this normal at the top levels of political coalition building?

00:15:50.000 It's happened, but it hasn't really happened with our party in this way before.

00:15:54.000 And I think, I mean, we owe it to Charlie.

00:15:56.000 I always, when I started working for him, I'd roll my eyes.

00:15:59.000 He'd say he was going to change the youth vote.

00:16:01.000 He was going to win them back.

00:16:03.000 Okay, Charlie, that's a very great goal of yours. 1.00

00:16:06.000 And he made me look like a huge idiot. 0.98

00:16:08.000 I remember spring 24, we're suddenly having campus events, and there's 2,000, 3,000, 5,000 people showing up to them. 0.99

00:16:15.000 And they all love him.

00:16:16.000 And I never thought I would see that happen.

00:16:19.000 And he proved that.

00:16:20.000 I just read a bunch of books, but I don't really know what I'm talking about.

00:16:24.000 Well, he proved a lot of people wrong.

00:16:26.000 I will tell you.

00:16:27.000 He was told for 12 years.

00:16:28.000 You guys know the story of Charlie Kirk, right?

00:16:30.000 12 years he was building Turning Point, and they told him it was a fool's errand, that he was just trying to griff to win the youth vote.

00:16:37.000 And the man never gave up.

00:16:39.000 He fought and he fought and he fought.

00:16:41.000 And he went right into the belly of the beast, right onto those college campuses.

00:16:45.000 And he would have the debates.

00:16:46.000 He would have the dialogues.

00:16:48.000 He would do exactly what people told him would never happen.

00:16:52.000 He made the most historic and dramatic coalitional difference in 2024.

00:16:56.000 We won the youth vote in Michigan.

00:16:58.000 We won it in Arizona.

00:16:59.000 We almost won it in Wisconsin.

00:17:02.000 We almost won it in Pennsylvania.

00:17:04.000 And by the way, where he would visit, there was a statistical change that you saw.

00:17:08.000 He would go to a college campus in Center County.

00:17:10.000 Where's Cliff Maloney?

00:17:11.000 I just saw him in a second.

00:17:13.000 Went to Center County, and they had never seen anything like that at Penn State.

00:17:17.000 And Jack Pesovic was there with him.

00:17:19.000 They saw something like a 14 or 15 point swing in the youth vote just because he took the time to believe in Gen Z.

00:17:27.000 And that's ultimately what this event is about, folks.

00:17:30.000 We are not giving up on the youngest Americans.

00:17:32.000 We believe that their hearts and minds can be won.

00:17:34.000 They can buy in to the American dream.

00:17:36.000 That's right.

00:17:37.000 Give it up.

00:17:38.000 Gen Z, you should do not turn your back on Gen Z, folks.

00:17:41.000 Believe in them.

00:17:42.000 They can do it.

00:17:44.000 They are smarter than people give them credit for.

00:17:46.000 Graham, I know you know this.

00:17:47.000 Blake, you now know this.

00:17:50.000 If you're tired of watching this country drift away from the values that made it great, it's time to get involved.

00:17:56.000 That's why I stand with AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens.

00:17:59.000 Charlie loved this country, and he loved partnering with organizations that truly stand for what makes America great.

00:18:05.000 One of our most trusted partners, AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens, is doing something special in Charlie's honor.

00:18:11.000 AMAC is offering free memberships to all ages.

00:18:14.000 No credit card, no strings attached, just a chance to stand for faith, family, and freedom.

00:18:19.000 Join this movement.

00:18:20.000 Go to AMAC.us slash Charlie today.

00:18:24.000 That is amac.us forward slash Charlie today.

00:18:31.000 God bless you guys.

00:18:33.000 We are here in Charlie's honor and his memory.

00:18:35.000 Who wants a hat, by the way, out there?

00:18:37.000 Who wants a hat? 0.50

00:18:38.000 These guys got some, too.

00:18:39.000 You better throw them out.

00:18:41.000 I need enthusiasm.

00:18:42.000 There it is, John.

00:18:43.000 Watch your heads.

00:18:44.000 Watch your head.

00:18:45.000 Got it.

00:18:46.000 And by the way, the great...

00:18:48.000 I'll let you go get it.

00:18:51.000 Here's the great Andy Biggs.

00:18:53.000 We are here partly in support of Andy Biggs.

00:18:56.000 Governor, the next governor of the great state of Arizona.

00:18:58.000 Yes.

00:18:59.000 Biggs, governor, right here.

00:19:01.000 So we got that right there.

00:19:03.000 So I'm just going to leave that up as a prop here.

00:19:05.000 Ben, what you got for us out there in the crowd?

00:19:07.000 Well, we got some young guys.

00:19:08.000 I'm going to come over here.

00:19:09.000 I'm just working my way around the crowd.

00:19:10.000 We got some questions and some comments.

00:19:13.000 What's your name?

00:19:13.000 Where are you from?

00:19:14.000 What's your question?

00:19:15.000 My name is Rod White, and of course, Charlie is irreplaceable.

00:19:20.000 But if there was one individual that's taken up the cross, maybe better than anyone else, that you see with this amazing future, could you just name that one individual?

00:19:29.000 Who would that be?

00:19:31.000 I mean, that's a tough question, but I will say that, you know, I think JD Vance, obviously he's the vice president, so it's a little different, but I can just tell you that he has.

00:19:43.000 Charlie was a huge believer in the political talent, the moral clarity, the intelligence of JD Vance.

00:19:51.000 And I think he's really stepped into the void and waded into conversations.

00:19:55.000 He didn't have to, but he's doing it for the sake of the movement, for the sake of the country.

00:19:59.000 And so I give him a lot of credit for what he's done.

00:20:02.000 I love Ellie Beth Stookie, by the way.

00:20:04.000 She's my.

00:20:05.000 Oh, Allie's the best. 0.96

00:20:06.000 Oh, yeah, she's the best.

00:20:08.000 We actually have her, we're going to be doing an interview with Allie in the members-only lounge, so that's going to be really cool.

00:20:13.000 Members.charliekirk.com if you want to join our members' community.

00:20:17.000 And we're doing live long-form podcasts with Allie.

00:20:21.000 She's amazing.

00:20:21.000 She's phenomenal.

00:20:22.000 Totally agree.

00:20:23.000 And this is really what it's all about: the next generation, these guys.

00:20:26.000 What's your name?

00:20:27.000 Where are you from?

00:20:27.000 And what does Charlie mean to you?

00:20:29.000 What is this legacy?

00:20:31.000 And MFest in particular.

00:20:33.000 Well, hi, guys.

00:20:34.000 It's really nice to meet you.

00:20:35.000 I'm excited to be here.

00:20:36.000 My name is Riley Raybird.

00:20:38.000 My friend and I started a turning point chapter at our school in Birmingham, Alabama.

00:20:46.000 God bless you.

00:20:47.000 And we're excited to be here to honor his legacy and carry it on and get connected with the next generation.

00:20:55.000 I'm Kiber Rayberg.

00:20:56.000 I'm the president of that chapter.

00:20:58.000 And it's just been amazing seeing how since Charlie's tragically passed, how everybody's been unified and wanting to get involved and meet people and talk about really, really hard things.

00:21:09.000 So that's just been great.

00:21:11.000 I'm Benjamin Meyer, and I'm kind of like the social media admin.

00:21:16.000 And like he said, it's been great to see how the movement has kind of unified over his death and mobilized.

00:21:24.000 Yeah, can you guys give us an insight?

00:21:26.000 This is something, I don't know, maybe you guys have seen this with your own families, your own, what happened with Charlie.

00:21:32.000 People don't understand what this meant to Gen Z, to high schoolers, college kids.

00:21:36.000 Tell us what it was like on campus in those immediate days afterwards.

00:21:41.000 So it kind of was split.

00:21:43.000 There were some people who were really kind of, I don't know, they were really motivated by it, but some other people were not so and kind of seemed almost to rejoice in his death.

00:21:58.000 Trevor Joyce, he said, in his death.

00:22:00.000 So he had, I mean, a clear divide of good versus evil, no doubt about it.

00:22:04.000 It was really quite polarizing because he was my hero.

00:22:07.000 He was a lot of our heroes.

00:22:09.000 And the fact that something like that can happen in an open debate forum, and then the fact that you can see it everywhere is terrible.

00:22:18.000 So it was just really, really heartbreaking for all of us that were huge fans of him.

00:22:23.000 Yeah, thanks, guys, for saying that.

00:22:25.000 Yeah, for Gen Z, this was their JFK moment. 0.92

00:22:29.000 And I mean, so if you have Gen Z people in your family, in your community, they're still processing it.

00:22:36.000 I really want you guys to internalize that.

00:22:39.000 It's a huge deal.

00:22:40.000 Graham, when you hear young people talk like that, and when you realize when you see the good versus evil, I don't know, when I'm listening to that, it's crystallizing for me.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, we're going to have our squabbles here, but we got bigger fights, bigger fish to fry, if you will.

00:22:54.000 Yeah, I think everybody, I mean, everybody knew how powerful and impactful Charlie was.

00:23:00.000 I think every one of us, especially those of us that are parents, my own children coming up to me, you know, I knew that they knew who Charlie was because we've worked with Charlie and Turning Point for so long, but seeing my own children crying because they were watching Charlie all the time, and I had no idea.

00:23:16.000 Charlie had such an impact on our younger generations that even us as parents were kind of oblivious to learning about Jesus through Charlie Kirk, which is the ultimate thing.

00:23:28.000 That's the biggest thing that Charlie wanted to do all the time was introduce our Lord and Savior to not just our next generation, but the current generation.

00:23:37.000 Charlie knew everything about everything, it seemed.

00:23:40.000 Charlie was a Rolodex all the time.

00:23:42.000 The impact that he made, the once-in-a-jur generation person that Charlie Kirk was, I think that we're going to feel it for generations to come.

00:23:51.000 And I truly believe that if we can get this infighting out of the way and these squabbles out of the way, we still have the chance that Charlie talked about to be and have America prosper for the next millennia if we do it the right way and we get it done the right way.

00:24:06.000 Well, that's why AmFest is the time it is.

00:24:10.000 It's at the end of the year.

00:24:11.000 It's right before Christmas.

00:24:13.000 And we talk about the debates we're having.

00:24:14.000 This is the time to have those.

00:24:16.000 You have them at the end of the year before you have to gird up for the next election cycle.

00:24:22.000 And Charlie knew that.

00:24:24.000 He always wanted to focus on get the wins.

00:24:27.000 Get the agenda passed.

00:24:29.000 Don't destroy yourselves with infighting.

00:24:31.000 If we're arguing the way we sometimes argue in October, it's very bad.

00:24:36.000 Do it in December.

00:24:37.000 The United Bio.

00:24:38.000 That's a good point.

00:24:39.000 This is the time to have these fights, guys.

00:24:41.000 So again, if you find yourself getting uncomfortable in your seat, don't let it.

00:24:45.000 Embrace it.

00:24:46.000 Embrace the struggle.

00:24:47.000 This has to happen, and it's going to be ultimately healthy and better in the long run.

00:24:50.000 Graham Allen, tell us where people can follow you.

00:24:53.000 Tell the folks where people can follow you.

00:24:55.000 Get involved with what you're doing.

00:24:56.000 Just, yeah, anywhere, Graham Allen, you can look for it.

00:24:59.000 It's terrible news.

00:25:00.000 Good news.

00:25:01.000 You know, it depends on your perspective.

00:25:03.000 Thanks for having me.

00:25:04.000 It's an honor.

00:25:04.000 I'm standing here.

00:25:05.000 God bless you guys.

00:25:06.000 Thank you, Graham Allen.

00:25:08.000 All right, welcoming up our next guest.

00:25:10.000 We're doing a little hot swap here, and that is Savannah Hernandez and Monica Page from our TPUSA Frontlines team. 0.98

00:25:16.000 We love Sav.

00:25:19.000 Sav.

00:25:20.000 Sav is a must-follow.

00:25:22.000 Who here is a little frustrated with our immigration policies?

00:25:26.000 Yeah, count me in on that one.

00:25:28.000 Yeah, Ben.

00:25:29.000 Ben, I know you are.

00:25:31.000 Sav is probably the most, I think, really, the most important immigration reporter in the country.

00:25:38.000 And I really mean that.

00:25:40.000 You go into these protests.

00:25:42.000 You go into really dark and seedy places.

00:25:44.000 You cover what's really happening on the ground.

00:25:47.000 It's something Charlie really believed in.

00:25:49.000 He propped up this whole frontlines journalism, this guerrilla journalism division within Turning Point.

00:25:56.000 Because you've got to understand, there's not money for this, folks.

00:25:59.000 You know, other groups, we love them.

00:26:01.000 They're around here on Media Road.

00:26:02.000 They don't have the money to send reporters all over the country to do this kind of thing.

00:26:06.000 It has to be nonprofit.

00:26:07.000 It has to be donor-led.

00:26:09.000 And so these are some of the fruits of that labor of what you guys, when you support Turning Point, do.

00:26:14.000 Sav, tell them what your daily routine is.

00:26:17.000 You don't have a daily routine.

00:26:19.000 Tell them about some of the work that you're working on right now.

00:26:22.000 Sure.

00:26:22.000 So I just want to say that, you know, if it wasn't for Charlie, I wouldn't have the ability to go do this, like you said.

00:26:28.000 And it's been such an incredible year for Frontlines because the administration has been listening to everything we have been putting out.

00:26:35.000 We actually were able to go and do an Antifa roundtable where we had the ear of the president and we were able to sit down with him and talk to him about everything that we've reported as it pertains to left-wing violence.

00:26:46.000 And then on top of that, I was in New York actually reporting on Canal Street because Frontlines Deep USA sends me all across the nation from both the West Coast to the East Coast.

00:26:56.000 And I was reporting on this huge street of illegal immigrants that had a black market.

00:27:01.000 A couple days later, ICE went and they raided that area and they deported nine illegal immigrants from that street.

00:27:09.000 So the administration very much watching our work.

00:27:13.000 The admin very much paying attention to the independent journalists that Charlie initially saw the value in before anybody else did.

00:27:20.000 I've been working with you guys now for three, almost four years.

00:27:23.000 We've brought in hundreds of millions of views on our own.

00:27:28.000 Yeah, the views, guys, truly, we get so much viral content out of this because you, the people, want it.

00:27:34.000 You're hungry for it, the truth.

00:27:36.000 Ben, you're also very good at this guerrilla journalism stuff.

00:27:39.000 I want to give you a lot of hat tips right there.

00:27:41.000 Yeah, give it up for Ben as well.

00:27:43.000 He's been covering.

00:27:44.000 I mean, he's a team effort, baby.

00:27:46.000 He's been daring on doing all this stuff.

00:27:48.000 So, yeah, but the number of views, like, you know, you get, it feels like every week you've got another post with like a couple million views about, you know, some immigration thing, Antifa thing.

00:27:59.000 I mean, how much of that is your motivation?

00:28:02.000 Or you just, how do you pick your stories, I guess is the question?

00:28:05.000 I mean, we're following the news cycle.

00:28:06.000 Luckily for me, the mainstream media does a horrific job at actually telling the American people the truth.

00:28:12.000 So we're basically just focusing in on everything that they are ignoring, and the American people love it.

00:28:17.000 And we are here to serve you guys.

00:28:19.000 And so the reason we're getting the viewership that we are, the reason why Frontlines has been able to be so successful is because the American people want to see this.

00:28:27.000 The American people want to know what's going on.

00:28:29.000 And it's been very, very successful.

00:28:31.000 So again, every single day, I am grateful to Charlie because he saw the value in independent journalists like myself before anybody else did.

00:28:39.000 He invested in us.

00:28:40.000 He made sure that we were able to tell the truth about what was going on in the streets of America as it pertains to illegal immigration.

00:28:46.000 And we were able to, because we were able to show Americans that, get him, you know, into the White House essentially, or show Americans, you know, which way to vote, essentially.

00:28:56.000 Essentially.

00:28:57.000 In terms of how we wanted America to be, exactly.

00:29:02.000 So we have been growing this team.

00:29:03.000 We have now nine reporters on the frontlines team.

00:29:06.000 And one of those newer editions, like a year and a half now?

00:29:10.000 Year and a half.

00:29:11.000 Monica Page, everybody.

00:29:13.000 White House correspondent.

00:29:15.000 White House correspondent.

00:29:16.000 She's the White House.

00:29:17.000 So she lives in the, we said this term a few times, the belly of the beast.

00:29:21.000 You live in the swamp.

00:29:23.000 But you are doing a great job covering the White House.

00:29:25.000 You get to ask the president questions, and you cover local protests and stuff.

00:29:29.000 What has it been like to be in the Trump White House?

00:29:32.000 Give the folks at home and the people watching here an idea of how much things have changed in Trump 2.0.

00:29:37.000 It's been a night and day difference.

00:29:39.000 For the last year and a half, I covered the previous administration, the Joe Biden White House, where I was very limited to the amount of access that I could get.

00:29:46.000 I was not allowed in the Oval Office where now I'm allowed in the Oval Office with the president.

00:29:51.000 I wasn't allowed to ask the questions in the press briefing room because I was never called on.

00:29:56.000 Now I'm in the new media seat.

00:29:57.000 I'm standing along the sides of the press briefing room, asking the questions, getting called on, having those personal one-on-one meetings with Press Secretary Caroline Levitt.

00:30:06.000 It's been absolutely insane.

00:30:09.000 The access that we're getting, we've been on the North Lawn, South Lawn, East Room, Roosevelt Room, Air Force One.

00:30:15.000 I had the privilege of traveling with President Trump to Charlie's funeral memorial service in Arizona.

00:30:21.000 That was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

00:30:23.000 And honestly, it made me pretty emotional because I knew that if it wasn't for Turning Point USA, if it wasn't for Charlie Kirk, I don't think I would have had this opportunity.

00:30:31.000 So I am so grateful to be there, not only for Turning Point USA and Frontlines, but on behalf of you, the American people, because I'm asking your questions.

00:30:40.000 I'm not asking my network or my mainstream media establishment questions.

00:30:44.000 I'm asking your questions.

00:30:46.000 Actually, have asked your questions.

00:30:48.000 If you DM me, I will ask them.

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00:31:58.000 Ben Berkwam, what you got for us out there?

00:32:00.000 Oh, we got an amazing group here.

00:32:02.000 Speaking of people that have escaped communism, I'm going to go over here with my friend from California, Comifornia.

00:32:09.000 Tell us here what your name is, where you're from, and this matters to you.

00:32:13.000 My name is Galina.

00:32:14.000 I came in 1997 from California.

00:32:17.000 Well, I'm sorry, from former Soviet Union to California.

00:32:21.000 Beautiful state, very wrong politicians.

00:32:23.000 We cannot wait to get Rinov the worst governor in the United States.

00:32:28.000 And we're praying.

00:32:29.000 There are a lot of mega patriots in California.

00:32:33.000 We're praying.

00:32:34.000 We're praying and we're doing action.

00:32:36.000 Action, action.

00:32:38.000 Love Steve Bennon.

00:32:39.000 That's why it's a beautiful state.

00:32:41.000 We have to save it.

00:32:43.000 And I came legally.

00:32:46.000 It took me, I got my citizenship 2008.

00:32:49.000 I had to study and I had to pass my tests.

00:32:52.000 And I'm very proud American and I am ultra mega.

00:32:56.000 Think of it.

00:32:59.000 And you know, this is the difference: legal immigration versus illegal immigration.

00:33:04.000 The left conflates the two.

00:33:05.000 They try to blend the two, but there's a difference.

00:33:08.000 The ultra MAGA, legal immigrants that come here and want to make that want to assimilate into America versus the illegals that want to destroy America. 0.96

00:33:17.000 It's my first time here.

00:33:19.000 And Erica said yesterday, 80% of people came first time.

00:33:25.000 And I'm extremely happy to be at this epic.

00:33:28.000 It's an epic.

00:33:29.000 And Charlie Kirk, what I was shocked when we went to China Hills, he was there.

00:33:35.000 It was so packed.

00:33:36.000 We couldn't get to the main building.

00:33:38.000 We were on the second building.

00:33:39.000 What I was impressed, it was the first time I saw him in person.

00:33:42.000 His knowledge, that young age, Bible, how he knew the Bible, that was shocking for me.

00:33:48.000 I'm Orthodox Christian.

00:33:50.000 Then he came to San Clemente, to our Calvary Chapel, and I have a book, Dactrin Mega, and he wrote Galena Mega.

00:33:57.000 So my immigration policy is: I will let in anybody that's ultra mega.

00:34:02.000 Ultra.

00:34:02.000 Yes, everybody else.

00:34:04.000 Everybody else, I'm not, you know, we don't need.

00:34:05.000 We're full.

00:34:07.000 31,000 patriots have come gathering here at the Phoenix Convention Center in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:34:13.000 We are all about action, action, action.

00:34:16.000 We are telling the truth.

00:34:16.000 We're sending reporters out in the field.

00:34:18.000 We are joined by Savannah Hernandez and Monica Page, our White House correspondent.

00:34:23.000 You also cover protests though, yes?

00:34:25.000 Yeah, I do.

00:34:25.000 We've covered the No Kings protests.

00:34:27.000 We've covered those Tesla, anti-Tesla protests.

00:34:30.000 It's a very interesting scene out there.

00:34:31.000 A lot of them are very organized.

00:34:33.000 It's kind of like organized chaos.

00:34:35.000 Also, the pro-Palestine people that come outside the White House from time to time.

00:34:39.000 We pretty much cover it all.

00:34:40.000 If it's there, I'm there.

00:34:42.000 And Savannah, you were just telling me about an important story.

00:34:45.000 Guys, I brought up immigration a few times here, specifically because you're here, Savannah, but also just because I'm passionate about it.

00:34:52.000 You just told me a fact that I was not aware of, and I want everybody to listen very closely to this.

00:34:57.000 Sure.

00:34:57.000 So I was just talking with you about how last week the DHS put out a press release basically stating that between the sanctuary states of Illinois and New York, they have released 8,700 criminal illegal aliens with prior ties to homicide, assault, burglary, robbery back out onto the streets of the United States of America.

00:35:18.000 That's 8,700 violent criminals that have been released back out onto the streets, even though they've got an ice detainer on them, even though the federal government wants to deport them.

00:35:28.000 These local municipalities are just releasing them back out onto the street.

00:35:32.000 Do we like that?

00:35:33.000 Do we like that?

00:35:36.000 What do we want to do about it?

00:35:37.000 We want to fix that.

00:35:38.000 You know, I will say, I'll never forget Charlie one day.

00:35:40.000 He got so frustrated with this.

00:35:42.000 He looks right at the camera.

00:35:43.000 He goes, we need to start arresting these mayors. 0.94

00:35:45.000 Blake, I know that that is not exactly your tag here, but why can't we do that?

00:35:50.000 Why can't we do that?

00:35:51.000 More and more, I'm not sure why.

00:35:52.000 I just saw, there was a story, I think, in Reston, Virginia, where they had a detainer on a man, they let him out, and he committed murder again.

00:35:59.000 After a while, I think you do have to ask: are you just actually an accomplice in assaults, in robberies, and homicides at this point?

00:36:08.000 And Blake, if I can jump in as well, going back to these numbers, there's another 11,000.

00:36:13.000 And keep in mind, too, that these are already illegal aliens and then they've committed violent crimes against American citizens. 0.98

00:36:18.000 They're currently in custody, in state custody in Illinois and New York.

00:36:22.000 And because these jurisdictions refuse to work with federal agents, they are simply potentially going to be re-releasing all of these people back out onto the streets.

00:36:30.000 Yeah, it's offensive.

00:36:32.000 And you guys are doing a great job.

00:36:34.000 Everybody, please follow TPOSA Frontlines, The Great Savan Hernandez, and Monica Page.

00:36:38.000 Please check them out.

00:36:40.000 Follow them on socials.

00:36:41.000 Where you're at?

00:36:42.000 How do people find you?

00:36:43.000 Go follow me on X at SavSays.

00:36:45.000 Sav says, what about you, Monica?

00:36:46.000 Follow me on X at Monica Page TV, P-A-I-G-E-T-V.

00:36:50.000 That's wonderful.

00:36:51.000 Okay, guys, what do we think about Erica Kirk?

00:36:54.000 Do we love Erica Kirk or what?

00:36:56.000 Is she doing a great job?

00:36:58.000 She's doing a phenomenal job.

00:37:00.000 When I think about what she's been through and how courageous and brave and the poise and the gracefulness that she has comported herself, I just, it's enough to make you emotional watching it.

00:37:12.000 I want to play something from Erica.

00:37:14.000 This is her bragging on this amazing event that our team has pulled off.

00:37:18.000 So I want you to hear it from her in her own words.

00:37:23.000 332.

00:37:25.000 We have 40 breakout sessions, 178 sponsors, all 50 states represented.

00:37:36.000 We have 25 countries represented, plus Puerto Rico, but I have the list here.

00:37:43.000 Don't worry, guys, Egypt is not on the list.

00:37:47.000 Don't worry about that.

00:37:52.000 But, oh, how funny.

00:37:54.000 I say Egypt and my iPad turns on.

00:37:59.000 That's fun.

00:38:01.000 Where were we?

00:38:02.000 Okay.

00:38:04.000 We have, so that's 25 countries, all 50 states, 178 sponsors, 40 breakout sessions, everybody, and 31,000 patriots from all across the country and the world.

00:38:16.000 It's amazing.

00:38:17.000 It's amazing.

00:38:17.000 All for Charlie.

00:38:19.000 And here, one more thing from Erica here: Play Cut 326.

00:38:24.000 He believed disagreement was something not to be canceled.

00:38:31.000 It was something to confront with clarity, courage, and grace.

00:38:35.000 And Charlie loved truth way more than conformity.

00:38:39.000 Amen to that.

00:38:40.000 So as you guys go out into the breakouts, make sure you're plugging in with other organizations, with this organization, signing up, being volunteers, getting out into the field, action, action, action.

00:38:52.000 This is not an event for mere spectators or observers.

00:38:55.000 We want you to be active and get involved every way you can.

00:38:58.000 That's the whole spirit.

00:39:00.000 If you want to honor Charlie, there's a couple things you can do.

00:39:02.000 Go to church.

00:39:03.000 Make sure you're going to church.

00:39:04.000 Pray, read your Bible, and get involved to save this country, everybody.

00:39:07.000 So we're...

00:39:08.000 That's what we're dedicating ourselves to.

00:39:10.000 That's why we're here.

00:39:11.000 We're so grateful to have you all here.

00:39:12.000 So are you guys happy to be here?

00:39:16.000 I'm really excited right now.

00:39:18.000 We are joined right here on this set by two great Americans that many of you probably follow on social media.

00:39:24.000 And of course, that is Michael Cernovich, Mike Cernovich.

00:39:26.000 I don't know why I'm doing Michael there.

00:39:28.000 The great Cernovich.

00:39:30.000 And hold on.

00:39:32.000 Blake Marnell, otherwise known as Brick Suits.

00:39:35.000 Brick Sud!

00:39:36.000 Brick Suits in the house.

00:39:37.000 Brick Suit!

00:39:40.000 You guys are keen observers of the political movement, the moment that we exist in right now.

00:39:45.000 And I keep referencing the fact that last night was spicy.

00:39:50.000 It was fun.

00:39:51.000 People were mixing it up.

00:39:53.000 And so I'm going to play one of these clips here because I think it's important.

00:39:57.000 Let's just do it.

00:39:59.000 Ben Shapiro, he was the second speaker.

00:40:01.000 Obviously, we had Erica Kirk.

00:40:02.000 It was amazing, amazing intro.

00:40:04.000 By the way, who was in the room for the intro where Charlie introduced Erica Kirk to the stage?

00:40:11.000 I was getting pretty emotional right there.

00:40:13.000 She did an amazing job. 0.97

00:40:14.000 But then, you know, some of the fireworks started.

00:40:16.000 Ben Shapiro started 334.

00:40:19.000 First off, I should break the Omerite here and just be a little bit clear. 0.97

00:40:22.000 The notion that people in our industry are close friends, like we all take holiday breaks with each other and go to each other's kids' graduations and stuff, is generally untrue.

00:40:30.000 Some people do that, most of us don't.

00:40:32.000 But even if it were true that other public figures were our best friends, our very best friends, that does not relieve us of our duty to speak out of principle and not to cover up evil or shy away from addressing it out of friendship.

00:40:45.000 So no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent on Candace's targeting of TPUSA.

00:40:51.000 There is only one moral side here, Erica Kirk's side.

00:40:56.000 All right, Mike, I'm going to go to you.

00:40:58.000 We were talking in the break that you had some opinions about this.

00:41:01.000 What do you make of this?

00:41:02.000 Do you get uncomfortable?

00:41:04.000 Are you okay with this?

00:41:05.000 Is it healthy?

00:41:06.000 You know, I think don't do it here at this event.

00:41:10.000 So for me, I've always been a daily wire respector. 0.83

00:41:13.000 They give people jobs.

00:41:14.000 They employ a thousand people.

00:41:17.000 Occasionally, I disagree with Ben Shapiro, but I'm not like trying to blast them every day.

00:41:22.000 You got to look at the good that we're doing.

00:41:25.000 And people shouldn't do that here.

00:41:27.000 I'm all for the drama, even though I'm old now.

00:41:30.000 I don't want to participate in it.

00:41:32.000 But I watch the clips.

00:41:33.000 I'm not going to pretend I'm above it all.

00:41:35.000 I watch every clip.

00:41:35.000 It's like right away when they load up.

00:41:38.000 I try to stay out of it.

00:41:39.000 And I think people need to be more like Charlie and realize that if we lose in the midterms or we lose in 2028, like what do we win?

00:41:50.000 Does it feel good to vent your...

00:41:51.000 This is like a young man's game.

00:41:52.000 Ben's old.

00:41:53.000 I'm old.

00:41:55.000 This venting your spleen is a young man's game. 1.00

00:41:58.000 You don't get to do that when you're older. 0.99

00:42:00.000 You got to tone it down and realize if we lose, we're screwed, man.

00:42:04.000 You got to just play along.

00:42:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, you can clap for that.

00:42:10.000 You guys can clap for that.

00:42:11.000 I hear it out there.

00:42:12.000 Blake, what do you make of what you saw?

00:42:15.000 Were you in the room when it was?

00:42:17.000 I was watching it.

00:42:19.000 What was it?

00:42:19.000 I was backstage, so I didn't get a good sense of the audience.

00:42:22.000 What was the reaction, and what's your take on it?

00:42:25.000 Yeah, I think that I characterize this scorched earth.

00:42:28.000 I wasn't expecting that.

00:42:30.000 He came out very hard on that.

00:42:32.000 And I think the Candace deserve to be called out. 0.98

00:42:35.000 I'm not saying I agree with everything.

00:42:38.000 But I echo Mike's sentiments that what is important is winning the midterms.

00:42:43.000 And this is a temporary blip.

00:42:45.000 Once we get all of our ducks in a row and we're all aligned for the same purpose, it's going to be so much better.

00:42:51.000 And we need to start focusing on that as opposed to the small things that we are disagreeing on.

00:42:56.000 And as Charlie has often said, when you stop talking to people, bad things start happening.

00:43:01.000 And on our own side now, we need to continue talking.

00:43:04.000 We can't be ostracizing people who have a slightly different opinion on a minor issue when we all agree about the large issues.

00:43:12.000 Yeah, so can I say something real quick?

00:43:14.000 Because here's my, I don't do radio much, so I'll probably jibber jabber too much.

00:43:18.000 But Charlie got, and this is something that a lot of people don't understand.

00:43:23.000 Being a podcaster and winning elections are two different things, right?

00:43:26.000 Charlie was like, you got to get out the vote.

00:43:28.000 You got to drive people to vote.

00:43:30.000 And you can tell with the drama, using a big name to clickbait, you get the clip, a million people watch it.

00:43:37.000 Your followers say, how does that get out the vote?

00:43:40.000 That doesn't get out the vote.

00:43:43.000 And this is about driving out the vote.

00:43:45.000 That's what Charlie's mission is.

00:43:47.000 So people want to do Kayfabe pro-wrestling things.

00:43:50.000 They want to go fight Jake Paul in the ring.

00:43:52.000 Go do that. 0.52

00:43:53.000 Go fight Jake Paul in the ring.

00:43:54.000 Go fight Sam Hyde.

00:43:56.000 But this is like, are you getting the vote out?

00:43:58.000 And if you're not getting the vote out, keep it to yourself.

00:44:00.000 I mean, the K-Fabe line is pretty funny because one of the older, weirder, dumber conspiracy theories we'd have about Charlie is that all of the speeches are dictated or pre-planned. 0.95

00:44:12.000 I think we successfully debunked that one last night.

00:44:16.000 Yeah, I actually, I don't know if he ended up doing it, but I told Knowles, I was like, you know what you should do?

00:44:19.000 It's just be like, well, I guess we know that Charlie doesn't, and Turning Point don't tell people what to say from the stage.

00:44:24.000 And we don't, by the way.

00:44:25.000 People think it's like, oh, we have this elaborate scheme that we, you know, it's all orchestrated.

00:44:30.000 No, we just say like, hey, you're cool.

00:44:32.000 We like you.

00:44:33.000 Go do what you do.

00:44:34.000 Like, we don't want to bring people that we have to tell what to say, by the way.

00:44:38.000 People, if they're going to be speaking on the main stage, they have something to say.

00:44:41.000 They have something worthwhile.

00:44:42.000 They've earned the right to be there.

00:44:44.000 And I think that's a really important point to make.

00:44:46.000 So thanks for bringing that up.

00:44:48.000 I'm going to paraphrase it, but you basically tweeted something.

00:44:51.000 And by the way, you've got to follow Cernovich on X. He's one of the key followers if you want to understand the heartbeat of the movement.

00:44:58.000 Mike, you said something, again, paraphrasing, that when you look to who you take your cues from, you're going to give a lot more credit to the people that are actually in the field doing the work.

00:45:08.000 And you're going to downgrade the people that just basically sit behind a camera and aren't doing the work.

00:45:14.000 Why is that so important?

00:45:15.000 Build that out.

00:45:16.000 Right.

00:45:16.000 So what podcasts do is they create a sense of false catharsis.

00:45:20.000 It's a Pied Piper thing.

00:45:22.000 They go, oh, I'm your voice.

00:45:24.000 Come watch me.

00:45:25.000 Oh, buy my merch and do this and use my coupon code and do this and do that, which is all great.

00:45:30.000 People have to make a living.

00:45:32.000 But if you lose, you've fallen for an illusion.

00:45:36.000 It's a demonic illusion.

00:45:39.000 First of all, it's idolatry. 0.85

00:45:40.000 It's anti-Christian. 0.90

00:45:41.000 It's idolatry, first of all, to have this weird parasocial relationship with podcasters.

00:45:47.000 I always tell people, don't act weird around me because that's a sin for you and a sin for me too, because then it leads me to ego and pride and everything else.

00:45:55.000 What matters is, like, are you driving out the vote?

00:45:58.000 Are you winning?

00:45:59.000 And what my problem with the podcast or thing, Charlie really pushed back.

00:46:03.000 He was a visionary.

00:46:04.000 He had a podcast. 1.00

00:46:05.000 Some idiot's going to clip it and say, oh, Cernovich Hates podcast. 1.00

00:46:08.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:46:09.000 Podcast is a necessary mechanism.

00:46:13.000 But if you're not converting that to votes, and you're only converting that to merch, to an email list, to selling things, you're creating an idol of yourself, which is demonic.

00:46:24.000 You're encouraging a false catharsis and a false consciousness of your own audience, and you're leading them into deception.

00:46:31.000 And you're not even winning, right?

00:46:32.000 You're not moving the needle.

00:46:34.000 So that's what people don't understand.

00:46:35.000 You guys know what Turning Point knows, and that's why I was a day one supporter of Turning Point.

00:46:40.000 Back when Charlie had the socialism sucks t-shirts, and I've always supported you guys, even no matter who goes after you, because I don't want to knock on doors.

00:46:49.000 I want to be lazy at home with my kids.

00:46:52.000 So I feel like if you want to be at home on social media, you better be promoting the heck out of the people that are doing the door knocking because that's how you win elections.

00:47:01.000 Give it up for Mike there, guys.

00:47:01.000 Well said.

00:47:03.000 And by the way, he's underselling his utility.

00:47:06.000 Mike's done a lot of in-the-field work over the years.

00:47:08.000 And by the way, 2016 probably wouldn't happen without Mike Cernovich, okay?

00:47:13.000 You don't have Trump in the White House.

00:47:14.000 He was one of the ringleaders, one of the captains on the field, the generals on the field that was getting people in the right direction.

00:47:22.000 So you're underselling yourself.

00:47:23.000 Blake, you know more about the vibe on the ground of MAGA because you visit all the rallies, you visit all the events.

00:47:31.000 You're so faithful in that.

00:47:33.000 Be honest, what's the vibe right now?

00:47:35.000 Well, people are concerned.

00:47:40.000 People are definitely concerned about the midterms, but I think they're also optimistic.

00:47:44.000 And I think the vibe is still, you know, be honest, it's not as great as it was coming into 2024, but I think it's still positive.

00:47:53.000 And I think people realize that victory is still ours to have.

00:47:56.000 Like Mike said, we get out there and we do it.

00:47:58.000 And, you know, when I was out there helping Turning Point Action in their recall election for Dorian Taylor here in Mesa, I see those armies of people out there volunteering.

00:48:06.000 Which we won.

00:48:07.000 Which you won, exactly.

00:48:09.000 And, you know, it makes a difference.

00:48:10.000 And I knocked on a few doors myself.

00:48:12.000 I'm not going to say I was, you know, a huge critical part of that, but I did a small part, and all those small parts add up.

00:48:19.000 And I encourage you all to do.

00:48:22.000 Did you wear the brick suit for the brick suit for knocking on doors?

00:48:26.000 I mean, that wouldn't be, you go to your ring doorbell and you see a wall.

00:48:29.000 That's not going to be, that's not something you open up.

00:48:31.000 So I didn't use, didn't use the suit for that.

00:48:34.000 Heartbreaking.

00:48:36.000 Yeah, I mean, we've got one minute left here.

00:48:39.000 Mike, what is your marching orders?

00:48:41.000 If you had, let's just imagine Mike Johnson, Speaker Johnson, is watching this right now.

00:48:47.000 Leaders in Washington, what's your message right now?

00:48:49.000 What do they have to do?

00:48:50.000 If you're in Congress, do congressional things.

00:48:53.000 I'm so sick of them all being influencers.

00:48:56.000 Like, I don't care what, like, yeah, it's like, Ted Cruz, you're in the Senate.

00:49:02.000 I don't care.

00:49:03.000 You can hate Tucker.

00:49:04.000 I'm not Tucker's bodyguard.

00:49:05.000 I don't care.

00:49:06.000 Hate Tucker.

00:49:07.000 But you're in the Senate.

00:49:08.000 You need to be doing Senator things, not tweeting all day.

00:49:11.000 Mike Johnson needs to not be an influencer.

00:49:14.000 If you're in Congress, be in Congress.

00:49:17.000 And if you don't want to do your job in Congress, then go do a podcast and then see if anybody really cares.

00:49:22.000 So do congressional things if you're in Congress.

00:49:25.000 Great point.

00:49:26.000 Yeah, well said, Mike.

00:49:27.000 I think everybody agrees.

00:49:30.000 This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and Founding Partner of YReFi.

00:49:35.000 It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us.

00:49:40.000 His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come.

00:49:46.000 Now, here Charlie, in his own words, tell you about YReFi.

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00:50:39.000 All right, right here.

00:50:40.000 First off, I want to mention Angie Morphine, one of the angel moms, Ruben Morphine.

00:50:45.000 Son was murdered by an illegal alien. 0.73

00:50:47.000 What got me involved in the border stories, her and Agnes Gibney.

00:50:51.000 God bless you, Angie.

00:50:52.000 You want to say anything?

00:50:53.000 Just thank you, and please support President Trump on everything that he's doing because he's the greatest president we've ever had.

00:51:00.000 And to answer your question, yes, those mayors and those governors need to be arrested.

00:51:03.000 They're obstructing ICE.

00:51:05.000 And it's moms like Angie that we need to uplift, not the illegal aliens that these sanctuary jurisdictions are helping out. 1.00

00:51:12.000 Thank you.

00:51:13.000 I've been watching Charlie for years and I particularly loved when he went to the college campuses to debate women on the abortion issue and the unborn.

00:51:22.000 And so I work for an organization called Save the Storks.

00:51:25.000 And we're here and it's our first time at Amfest.

00:51:27.000 And we want to honor Charlie's legacy by raising money for a mobile medical clinic in Erika Kirk's name in his honor that will serve women, that will love on women with hope and compassion when they come on our clinic and they see their baby for the first time.

00:51:41.000 They choose life.

00:51:42.000 And we're going to honor Charlie and we're going to sponsor you.

00:51:45.000 And we're going to keep coming back over and over again until abortion is unthinkable. 0.94

00:51:50.000 Amen.

00:51:55.000 And one more, we have a birthday.

00:51:57.000 We got a birthday?

00:51:58.000 We got a birthday.

00:51:59.000 A friend of mine from Fresno, California, but more important than the birthday is what you're working on.

00:52:05.000 Tell us about the organization, what you guys do.

00:52:07.000 Yes, so I sit on the board for BetrayalProjectUSA.org, and we give voices to the 1.6 million victims who were killed in U.S. hospitals on U.S. soil due to the mandated and government-incendivized hospital COVID protocols.

00:52:25.000 So share your story.

00:52:27.000 BetrelprojectUSA.org.

00:52:30.000 You are not alone.

00:52:33.000 Thank you for that.

00:52:34.000 That's great.

00:52:35.000 Is this working?

00:52:36.000 There it is.

00:52:37.000 Blake, I'm going to let you drive here.

00:52:38.000 This is a very personal story for you as well, but for Charlie in the last weeks of his life.

00:52:43.000 Tell us about it.

00:52:44.000 Yeah, so as a lot of people know, one of the last things Charlie did was he went on a trip to Korea.

00:52:51.000 He spoke, I was with him on that.

00:52:53.000 He spoke at Build Up Korea, which it was really something to behold because it truly was.

00:53:00.000 Let's look at Amfest and copy everything about it.

00:53:03.000 Has that neon color scheme that we use.

00:53:05.000 Looked exactly like an AmFest event, but it was in Korea.

00:53:09.000 And one of the things he did there was he was meeting with pastors in Korea.

00:53:14.000 Korea has a very fraught political environment right now, and a lot of pastors and Christians are right at the center of it.

00:53:21.000 So one of the men he met was Pastor Son.

00:53:24.000 That's his name.

00:53:26.000 Pyunbo-son is the pastor's name.

00:53:28.000 And we're joined now by, very shortly after meeting Charlie, he was arrested, in fact.

00:53:34.000 So we're joined right here at Amfest by two of Pastor Son's sons.

00:53:41.000 Keep that in order.

00:53:42.000 They are Chant's son and Young Kwan's son.

00:53:45.000 So give a warm welcome to both of them.

00:53:48.000 Thank you so much for having us here.

00:53:50.000 We're so honored to be presented on Charlie Kirk's show, which we admire and Koreans love as well.

00:53:55.000 Thank you.

00:53:56.000 So why don't you just explain what's going on in your country and what happened to your father?

00:54:01.000 Yeah, so my father got arrested because of the wrong interpretation of election law and because my father criticized the candidates for pushing LGBT agenda and walkism into schools.

00:54:15.000 My father got arrested for being too political from the pulpit and also speaking out against the candidate for promising to appoint 30% of the public sector positions for sexual minorities, which is absurd.

00:54:30.000 As a pastor, my father had to speak out, and because of that very reason, my father got arrested.

00:54:35.000 And it's been 103rd day, marking 103rd day today.

00:54:40.000 Yep.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, so let's make sure everybody's got the story here.

00:54:46.000 Play 335, guys.

00:54:48.000 If I am imprisoned, it will prove that Korea is no longer free. 0.93

00:54:53.000 Reverend Chan Bo Son made that statement just before entering the police station for a pre-trial hearing on September 8th.

00:55:01.000 Despite being a preliminary session, the court approved his arrest warrant and detained him immediately.

00:55:09.000 Charges against Pastor Son include violating election laws, specifically for interviewing a candidate on issues the government interpreted as illegal campaigning.

00:55:20.000 Authorities cited risk of flight and destroying evidence as the reasons for his detention.

00:55:27.000 Illegal campaigning.

00:55:29.000 That's a remarkable thing to hear.

00:55:31.000 About a pastor, no less.

00:55:32.000 So does a pastor just lose their free speech in Korea, basically, as soon as they start shepherding a flock? 0.99

00:55:38.000 Basically, basically, yeah.

00:55:40.000 They're losing the constitutional rights that we are born with.

00:55:44.000 So free speech is basically being violated in Korea.

00:55:48.000 And if you have enough influence, even as a pastor, you're not allowed to speak out, even if the biblical values are being harmed.

00:55:57.000 Yeah, and one of Charlie's passions was ensuring that we, the people in the church pews, have our voice.

00:56:04.000 So Charlie, that's why we have TPUSA Faith, to say that there is a vacuum in the culture, and if we don't fill it as Christians, then people that don't share our values are going to do it.

00:56:13.000 And we're not going to like the outcome, okay?

00:56:15.000 So we have to be involved.

00:56:16.000 In Korea, they're making that illegal to be involved.

00:56:18.000 So I have a question for you.

00:56:20.000 What has the United States government done to help your father?

00:56:25.000 So we...

00:56:27.000 I was thankfully invited by the White House Faith Office a month back to be able to share my father's story.

00:56:33.000 And they are aware of this situation and they're trying to find ways to help out.

00:56:38.000 But we need not only Koreans, but Christians, brothers and sisters in Christ, to speak out for religious freedom and also our constitutional rights.

00:56:48.000 Because Korean Constitution is written off based off the U.S. Constitution.

00:56:53.000 So we must ensure constitutional rights, freedom, free speech, religious freedom.

00:56:59.000 However, it's being violated and they're taking away our freedom.

00:57:03.000 So we need you, Americans, and the government, to push to tell the Korean government that this is not right.

00:57:12.000 Take us home, Blake.

00:57:14.000 Korea is one of the most Christian countries in Asia.

00:57:16.000 They can be a great friend of ours, and they should be a friend of ours.

00:57:20.000 Well, they need to get their act together here.

00:57:22.000 And guys, do what you can.

00:57:24.000 Support Pastor Sun.

00:57:25.000 It's very important.

00:57:26.000 Thank you so much.

00:57:29.000 We're going to have a turning point action segment here for you guys because again, it's all about action, action, action, right?

00:57:35.000 So TPUSA, it's all about college campuses.

00:57:38.000 It's all about reaching young people.

00:57:40.000 Turning point action is all about winning elections, right?

00:57:42.000 So they go hand in hand.

00:57:44.000 One feeds off the other.

00:57:45.000 That's what we like to do here.

00:57:46.000 So before we get into this very important segment, I want to put a bow on the last one.

00:57:51.000 So if you want to support Pastor Sun out of South Korea who's been in prison for his political beliefs because he happens to be a pastor, throw this QR code up there, please.

00:58:03.000 So everybody, put it up there, the QR code.

00:58:06.000 If you scan that QR code, everybody out there, get your phones out, take a picture.

00:58:11.000 You can sign the petition, sign the petition, get involved in freeing this man who spoke up for his faith, who spoke up for his country, and was imprisoned two weeks after Charlie met him.

00:58:23.000 By the way, it's just the whole thing is insane.

00:58:27.000 And the timing you have to imagine for South Korea is providential.

00:58:31.000 You have to believe that.

00:58:32.000 So please take that QR code, sign the petition, get involved, raise awareness for Pastor Sun.

00:58:38.000 It's unacceptable what's happened to him.

00:58:40.000 Thank you, Mary, for sending me that.

00:58:41.000 Thank you.

00:58:42.000 All right, so transitioning to Turning Point Action.

00:58:46.000 Brett Galaszewski, you are, I think, like you're like our mascot out there.

00:58:52.000 You guys know Brett Galaszewski?

00:58:55.000 Brett, your profile keeps rising because I think people feed off your energy.

00:58:59.000 You are dynamic, you're excited, you're enthusiastic.

00:59:04.000 The floor is yours, my friend.

00:59:05.000 Explain what we're doing right now.

00:59:07.000 Explain what Turning Point Action is about, how people can get involved.

00:59:10.000 Give them the 30,000 foot.

00:59:12.000 I appreciate that, Andrew.

00:59:13.000 It's great to be here.

00:59:14.000 It's great to have all you guys here today.

00:59:16.000 The energy is through the roof, isn't it?

00:59:19.000 We are so excited because at Turning Point Action, we're going to be turning the page into 2026, which is going to be the make or break year to save our country.

00:59:27.000 People have asked me all over this weekend, you know, what's at stake in 2026?

00:59:31.000 The short answer is everything that we have worked so hard to make happen.

00:59:35.000 And right now, Indiana is a little bit at the epicenter of conservative politics right now.

00:59:41.000 We just got done fighting a big fight in Indiana at the state house among these Republican legislators that refused to vote yes to a 9-0 map, allowing us conservatives to be in the best possible position to compete to win back the House of Representatives next year.

00:59:55.000 But then on top of that, that's only a small sliver of what we've been doing at Turning Point Action.

00:59:59.000 We're building the pieces so we can build that red wall that allows us to compete in 2028.

01:00:06.000 And so that's what Brandon is here for today.

01:00:07.000 That's what we're really excited to talk about.

01:00:10.000 So what is the red wall?

01:00:12.000 So we've talked about this on the show before.

01:00:13.000 The blue wall, historically, has always been a combination of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

01:00:20.000 And the best play in the Democratic playbook has always been for them to pick off two of those three states.

01:00:25.000 We really threw a wrench in their plans in 2024.

01:00:28.000 We won Wisconsin.

01:00:29.000 We won Michigan.

01:00:30.000 We won Pennsylvania.

01:00:33.000 And so now you look at it's a numbers game in 2028.

01:00:36.000 We have to get to that 270 electoral map percentage.

01:00:41.000 And right now, we believe that our best path to the 270 electoral mark is a combination of Arizona.

01:00:47.000 That's always been important.

01:00:48.000 It still will be in Arizona.

01:00:49.000 Arizona.

01:00:50.000 Come on now.

01:00:50.000 Nevada.

01:00:52.000 I'm a Nevada boy.

01:00:53.000 Any Nevadans in the house besides me?

01:00:56.000 Anybody?

01:00:56.000 I got nobody.

01:00:57.000 Nobody.

01:00:58.000 I'm a loner right here.

01:00:59.000 And then last but certainly not least, New Hampshire.

01:01:02.000 That is the new battleground state.

01:01:05.000 We got New Hampshire.

01:01:06.000 We don't have Nevada.

01:01:07.000 I'm embarrassed.

01:01:07.000 Yeah, no, describe this because New Hampshire never voted for Donald Trump, for example, in any of those three elections.

01:01:13.000 So what's changing in the state that makes it part of a red wall?

01:01:16.000 Well, so that was the swing state that Trump lost by the slimmest margin.

01:01:20.000 And let's just compare New Hampshire to a state like Wisconsin, which was one of the red wall states in 2024.

01:01:26.000 The thing that New Hampshire has over Wisconsin is twofold.

01:01:29.000 One, a Republican governor, so it's a lot easier for us to build that infrastructure.

01:01:34.000 And then two, more registered Republicans than registered Democrats.

01:01:39.000 A state like Wisconsin, for instance, does not register by party, so it's really hard to model.

01:01:43.000 It's really hard to create shapefiles, and it allows us to target voters in kind of just an improper way.

01:01:48.000 In New Hampshire, there's a huge Libertarian faction.

01:01:50.000 There's a huge chaseable independent faction.

01:01:52.000 And more importantly, there are more Republicans.

01:01:54.000 So that's what makes us very intrigued by New Hampshire and why we're really excited to be launching our full-scale ballot chase operation over the next four years in the granite state.

01:02:05.000 Yeah, full-scale.

01:02:06.000 So Arizona was a great example of what turning point action can do when we do the get out the vote, chase the vote operation, right?

01:02:14.000 So we had full employment, thousands of volunteers, door knocking.

01:02:19.000 And what we do, and I don't want to give away the secret sauce too much, but some of this is public, is we divide the state into these very bite-sized little chunks.

01:02:27.000 And we assign people on those territories.

01:02:30.000 And then their job is to contact everybody on their list, low-prop, conservative, probably Republican voters.

01:02:37.000 And we knock on their door, we text them, we call them, we're nice to them, we'd be their neighbor, you try and be the mayor of your little territory, you invite them to things, you get them involved so that when election month comes, They already know who you are.

01:02:50.000 They know they can trust you.

01:02:51.000 They can use you as a resource.

01:02:52.000 That's the idea.

01:02:53.000 So Arizona was a great example of that.

01:02:56.000 We lost in 2020 by about 10,000 votes in the state of Arizona, right?

01:03:01.000 A lot of shenanigans.

01:03:02.000 We don't need to relitigate the past.

01:03:04.000 Arizona became the best performing swing state in 2024 because of the work that Brett and his team and Tyler Boyer and Turning Point Action did getting out the vote.

01:03:15.000 Almost 6%.

01:03:17.000 Trump won this state by almost 6%.

01:03:20.000 And it was like a margin of almost 200,000 vote victory in 2024.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, you can cheer for that.

01:03:25.000 Thank you, Caleb.

01:03:28.000 So that's the power of actually doing the machinery of getting out low-prop votes.

01:03:33.000 So what people don't fully understand, they still don't grasp this yet, is that in the era of Trump that we have become the low-prop party.

01:03:40.000 The whole makeup of the conservative movement has changed.

01:03:43.000 Now they have the more reliable voters, but we have more of them.

01:03:46.000 That's the key.

01:03:47.000 And that's why you're seeing us win national popular votes at the presidential level in 2024.

01:03:52.000 So our job then becomes a little bit trickier because we have to do the work to get them out.

01:03:57.000 That's why what we're doing in New Hampshire is so critical.

01:04:00.000 That's why what we're doing in Nevada is going to be so critical.

01:04:03.000 Because if we can make these permanent outposts of Republican Party control, conservative movement, then we're going to have a massive, massive advantage over Democrats.

01:04:13.000 Because the way the census has changed, the way that voters have moved out of blue states and northern states and gone to the Sunbelt, the math doesn't work for them the same way it did previously.

01:04:23.000 And so if we have New Hampshire, Nevada, Arizona, if we can hold those, they are going to have a very, very tough time winning a national election in the future.

01:04:32.000 So let's go over to our New Hampshire man, Brandon Malley here.

01:04:36.000 Explain.

01:04:37.000 Yeah, give him up.

01:04:37.000 Get up for Brandon Malley.

01:04:38.000 Turnpoint Action.

01:04:39.000 He's doing the work.

01:04:41.000 Explain the dynamics inside New Hampshire because something people don't understand is that we have more Republicans than Democrats, but there's a lot of independents.

01:04:50.000 So explain the dynamics, Brandon.

01:04:52.000 So since 2018, the Republican voter registration numbers have gotten better and better with each election, regardless of whether it's been a good year for Republicans or not.

01:05:05.000 That's one encouraging sign.

01:05:06.000 Two, there's a big libertarian movement in New Hampshire that leans more Republican.

01:05:12.000 It's probably the biggest libertarian operation of any state in the country.

01:05:18.000 In fact, there's even a project called the Free State Project that's getting people to move to the state of New Hampshire to make it more conservative-minded, to make it a free state.

01:05:30.000 It's the live-free or die state for a reason.

01:05:34.000 The state legislature and the governor are Republican.

01:05:38.000 They're reflective of that on the state level.

01:05:40.000 What we have to do is be reflective of that on a federal level.

01:05:44.000 Federally, it's all Democrats.

01:05:46.000 We need to get that independent vote voting the right way, and there are way too many disengaged Republicans.

01:05:52.000 So did you guys hear that?

01:05:53.000 New Hampshire has all state-level Republican representation.

01:05:58.000 Governor, state legislature.

01:06:00.000 But for some reason, on the federal level, we could postulate why that might be.

01:06:05.000 Ben, I was looking at you.

01:06:06.000 I wonder if you got some ideas.

01:06:08.000 But at the federal level, we have zero representation for Republicans.

01:06:12.000 That is a weird dynamic.

01:06:13.000 So how are we going to change it?

01:06:15.000 We're going to change it.

01:06:16.000 Well, actually, it's surprising because every four years, New Hampshire gets the attention of the political universe, right?

01:06:24.000 It's the center, first in the nation primary, which, by the way, many people in the state are upset that the Democrats are trying to take away.

01:06:33.000 So we're going to be in defense of that, number one.

01:06:36.000 Number two, it's important to have year-round infrastructure.

01:06:40.000 It's amazing in the six months that I've been there, that I've witnessed everything on the ground, how little infrastructure is in place outside of the presidential primary.

01:06:51.000 So we are going to be the preeminent organization putting bodies on the ground, chasing the low-propensity Republican voters, and teaching the grassroots and the conservative base how to actually win elections outside of primaries.

01:07:07.000 Give it up for Brandon, guys.

01:07:08.000 This is what we need.

01:07:09.000 We need young, motivated, energetic people hitting the ground.

01:07:13.000 And by the way, there's all these groups in New Hampshire.

01:07:16.000 Sometimes they need an outside voice like a Turning Point Action or whatever to come in and kind of just rally them all together.

01:07:22.000 Give them the belief that they can do this.

01:07:24.000 That's what we've seen across the country.

01:07:25.000 Brett, maybe talk to that.

01:07:27.000 Yeah, well, I mean, what Brandon was alluding to, and it's a fascinating concept.

01:07:31.000 In New Hampshire, without an organized ballot chase effort, without really a ton of outside groups besides the legacy party apparatus that exists there, we're only losing elections in New Hampshire by the skin of our teeth.

01:07:43.000 Would you imagine if we essentially carpet bomb New Hampshire now with a bunch of paid bodies on the ground, a bunch of volunteers that are trained on the concepts that you talked about, Andrew, relational organizing, neighbors talking to other neighbors, it really puts us in a big position here to move the needle, not just a little bit in New Hampshire, but permanently in our corner for decades to come.

01:08:03.000 New Hampshire has that ability, and that's why we're really excited to invest long term.

01:08:08.000 So, Brett, if people watching at home or they're listening, listening to the podcast, or people in this event space right now want to get involved in 2026, 2028, what do they do?

01:08:20.000 Couple things.

01:08:20.000 So one, and many people don't actually know this, we own Coalitions.com at Turning Point Action.

01:08:27.000 Our Coalitions program is our farm team.

01:08:29.000 That is our volunteer field program where we organize, we recruit volunteers, we organize them, and then give them the tools necessary to be able to whip up votes, chase those votes in those extremely important precincts in their state.

01:08:42.000 So Coalitions.com, TP Action.

01:08:44.000 That's when you do like Moms Coalition, Farmers Coalition, Hispanics Coalition, right?

01:08:49.000 Correct.

01:08:50.000 This is the concept of moms knocking on the doors of other moms, Latinos knocking on the doors of other Latinos, Gen Z knocking on the doors of other Gen Z. 0.98

01:08:59.000 And so that's the concept that we're building.

01:09:01.000 And then from there, and this is the beauty of the model that we've built, we can take the best of the best volunteers that are now trained in Turning Point Action concepts and essentially say to them, keep doing what you've already been doing, but now we'll pay you to ballot chase for us full-time through Chase the Vote.

01:09:16.000 And that's what we're going to replicate in Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire.

01:09:20.000 All right, and we are hiring in Indiana, right?

01:09:23.000 Throw up 338.

01:09:25.000 We're looking for field representatives, right? 0.60

01:09:27.000 Yeah, if you would have told me a year ago that Turning Point Action was going to be hiring in Indiana, I would have told you you were crazy.

01:09:33.000 But about a month ago, Indiana became the last line of defense for us to be able to win back the House of Representatives next year.

01:09:40.000 They had an opportunity to go from a 7-2 controlled map to a 9-0 Republican congressional map.

01:09:45.000 Unfortunately, in an Indiana state senate that has 40 Republicans and only 10 Democrats, we couldn't get the 25 votes necessary for that map to pass.

01:09:54.000 So now we want Indiana to be the cautionary tale of the century for these establishment folks.

01:09:58.000 And we're going to go in, we're going to put bodies on the ground, and we're going to primary these senators that refuse to support President Trump.

01:10:04.000 Do you guys support that?

01:10:05.000 Do you guys want to see his primary some state senators that refuse to get on board in Indiana?

01:10:10.000 Now that's a shift of two congressional seats. 0.97

01:10:15.000 It could have been massive.

01:10:15.000 And knowing that Gavin Newsome stripped five Republican seats away from us in November with Prop 50, Indiana had an opportunity to really draw their line in the sand and reverse course.

01:10:24.000 But the problem is, you have a state filled with MAGA Republicans ran by MAGA haters.

01:10:30.000 And we saw that all over the place, the Mike Pence footprint, the Mitch Daniels footprint.

01:10:34.000 So we're coming into Indiana.

01:10:35.000 We're penetrating the state and we're saying enough is enough.

01:10:39.000 Let's get rid of these folks. 0.99

01:10:40.000 Let's put the ground game necessary to be able to primary them and let's save Indiana. 0.98

01:10:45.000 All right, Ampest 2025, give it up for Turning Point Action here.

01:10:48.000 Thanks, guys.

01:10:49.000 These guys are the boots on the ground, the workers in the field, and we need harvesters in the field.

01:10:56.000 So pray for them, and God bless them.

01:10:58.000 Thank you guys for coming.

01:10:59.000 We got Ben Berkwom.

01:11:00.000 He's out there talking to somebody that is how tall?

01:11:04.000 Tiny, tiny.

01:11:05.000 I'm six foot eight.

01:11:07.000 Six foot eight.

01:11:08.000 All right, real quick, you were talking action, action, action.

01:11:11.000 One other thing everyone needs to do across America, they've weaponized, the left has weaponized all of these rapid response networks against ICE and Border Patrol.

01:11:20.000 We've got to be out in the streets supporting ICE and Border Patrol.

01:11:23.000 We need mass deportations and mass prosecutions of everybody who's getting in the way and the injustice system against President Trump.

01:11:30.000 But speaking of the fights that we're in and how important what Turning Point does, tell me your name again.

01:11:35.000 Gabriel Murphy.

01:11:36.000 Gabriel Murphy, first time at an event.

01:11:39.000 He said, your family doesn't even know you're here.

01:11:41.000 You're from Oakland, California.

01:11:43.000 Why does this matter for you so much to be here and support Turning Point?

01:11:47.000 I just think it's really important that people know where their values and their, yeah, maybe where their values align.

01:11:53.000 I think a lot of times a lot of people aren't really malicious.

01:11:56.000 They just don't really know or don't really get a chance to get exposed to information.

01:12:00.000 I got a lot of fights with my family after Charlie Kirk passed away just in terms of they were saying that he was racist, the whole thing.

01:12:07.000 And I think it's just really important that people at least get a balanced viewpoint on who they are, where their values align.

01:12:14.000 What does the Bible say about what we should or shouldn't believe?

01:12:17.000 And there's not a lot of people that look like me that believe what I believe.

01:12:22.000 And so I got joined into this because I have a buddy that started a Turning Point chapter at my college.

01:12:27.000 I sat down and talked to him during COVID.

01:12:29.000 It was just a whole thing.

01:12:30.000 And so I think it's just really important that if you just talk to people, expose yourselves to different ideas and think rationally instead of emotionally, that we can get along way in this country.

01:12:38.000 So I'm kind of, this is my first time being here.

01:12:41.000 I'm really happy to be here.

01:12:42.000 It's cool to see.

01:12:43.000 I've been way more patriotic in the last couple years than I've ever been in my life.

01:12:46.000 So yeah, that's cool.

01:12:47.000 Welcome.

01:12:47.000 Amen.

01:12:48.000 And by the way, there's a lot more people that look like you and think like you than you think.

01:12:52.000 And so hopefully you're one of the lies that the left wants you to believe.

01:12:57.000 But that is shifting in America.

01:12:59.000 There's a massive awakening happening.

01:13:01.000 God bless you, man.

01:13:02.000 It's crazy, too, because I spent a year in Hungary playing basketball.

01:13:05.000 And there's a lot of stuff that we have here that they don't have over there that we really take for granted.

01:13:11.000 And I think if people got a chance to go live in other places, not that Hungary's a bad place.

01:13:16.000 Let me just, I don't want to mess up international relations or anything like that.

01:13:20.000 But I think you spend time in other places.

01:13:22.000 There's a lot of stuff that we have here.

01:13:24.000 They don't have over there.

01:13:25.000 They don't have barbecue.

01:13:26.000 They don't have pickup trucks.

01:13:27.000 It's crazy.

01:13:27.000 So I think that people took more time, being more grateful for what we have in the U.S.

01:13:31.000 I think we go a lot further, a lot longer way.

01:13:33.000 God bless you, man.

01:13:34.000 Thank you for coming out.

01:13:35.000 And we're praying for your family.

01:13:37.000 Yeah, you can be their bridge to get here with us here.

01:13:42.000 Thank you, Ben Berkman, the great Ben Berkman.

01:13:44.000 Can we give it up for Ben?

01:13:45.000 He's been amazing.

01:13:48.000 All right, Pozo.

01:13:50.000 In the tradition of America Fest, we're doing the warm handoff.

01:13:55.000 And what do you got planned for your show?

01:13:57.000 What can people expect?

01:13:59.000 Andrew, do I look like a guy with a plan?

01:14:02.000 Do I look like...

01:14:03.000 No, what can we expect?

01:14:05.000 We want high energy America first patriotism that will be coursing through America Fest and we're going to be sending a message to all the people in the swing states, to Washington, D.C.

01:14:19.000 And yes, I don't just mean the Democrats, I mean the establishment Republicans as well.

01:14:25.000 The rhinos, the people holding up the filibuster and the president's agenda.

01:14:31.000 We're going to make our voices heard tonight.

01:14:35.000 All right, so nobody can go anywhere.

01:14:37.000 Posto's coming up next.

01:14:38.000 Jack, you've got a few different duties at this event.

01:14:42.000 You're going to be speaking.

01:14:44.000 You've got a speech.

01:14:45.000 You are also going to be on stage interviewing who?

01:14:49.000 Tonight, I will be on stage.

01:14:51.000 I think we're closing out tonight.

01:14:52.000 On stage interviewing Megan Kelly.

01:14:56.000 You guys want to see that?

01:14:57.000 Should we interview Megan Kelly tonight?

01:14:59.000 Send the questions you want Jack to ask Megan to freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

01:15:05.000 Oh, man.

01:15:06.000 I'm stealing my SEO over here.

01:15:07.000 Yeah, freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

01:15:10.000 I will actually hand deliver those questions to Jack Poseovic.

01:15:13.000 This will be fun.

01:15:13.000 No, something tells me, though, that I think a few of the questions may be already floating around online, and I'm sure that Megan is, knowing Megan, is already more than prepared to answer them.

01:15:26.000 Yeah, no, she, and by the way, Megan has been, she has been, I think she's going to react to maybe some of the criticism, but I will just tell you, Megan behind the scenes has been wonderful and very supportive, and you guys should know that.

01:15:40.000 And we'll see what happens tonight.

01:15:42.000 I can't wait.

01:15:43.000 I can't wait.

01:15:43.000 Look, because everybody wants to play this game, right?

01:15:46.000 And I'll even peel back the curtain.

01:15:49.000 Everyone wants to go, oh, whose side are you on?

01:15:51.000 Right?

01:15:51.000 Whose side are you on?

01:15:52.000 Are you on Tucker's side?

01:15:53.000 Are you on Megan's side?

01:15:55.000 Are you on Ben's side?

01:15:56.000 This side?

01:15:57.000 No, no.

01:15:57.000 I'm on Charlie's side, okay?

01:15:59.000 I'm on Charlie Kirk's side.

01:16:01.000 That's the side I'm on.

01:16:02.000 I'm on Turning Point side.

01:16:03.000 I'm on Erica Kirk's side.

01:16:05.000 I'm on Amfest side.

01:16:06.000 I'm on America's side, right?

01:16:08.000 It's about MAGA, and it's about keeping the coalition together.

01:16:11.000 Now, that being said, that being said, when these issues do come up, what do we do?

01:16:17.000 You do what Charlie did.

01:16:18.000 You talk about it.

01:16:20.000 It's as simple as that.

01:16:21.000 Yeah, well said.

01:16:22.000 Blake, final words.

01:16:24.000 Man, I just...

01:16:26.000 Yeah, you really dumped this on me, didn't you?

01:16:29.000 No, we're having a very fun event.

01:16:32.000 We're having a very outspoken event.

01:16:33.000 I'm looking forward to what we're going to hear tonight.

01:16:36.000 I think it'll be hard to top the virality of last night, but I know, don't you, Jack?

01:16:40.000 You'll consider that a dare?

01:16:42.000 I really am.

01:16:43.000 You already are planning this, I imagine.

01:16:45.000 Well, I mean, it's on Megan, right?

01:16:47.000 I'm just asking the question, so I'm not trying to be the center of anything.

01:16:51.000 But, I mean, give me the opportunity.

01:16:53.000 You know, I mean, I do have a reputation.

01:16:55.000 Well, I want to wrap this up by just saying one thing is that I cannot get over how encouraging it is for us to see all of you here and how wonderful you guys have all been, how welcoming to each other.

01:17:08.000 The energy in this room, it's hard to explain if you're not here, but it is extreme.

01:17:14.000 It is wonderful.

01:17:15.000 It is overflowing.

01:17:16.000 So I just love the people that come to Amfest that make the trek from all over the country.

01:17:21.000 You guys make this so much fun for us and so encouraging.

01:17:24.000 And there's something about getting in person, IRL, Jack, not just being online, Mr. Twitter man.

01:17:30.000 Not just being online, actually getting and mixing it up with the people.

01:17:38.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 19, 2025

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