The Charlie Kirk Show - Arctic Frost Accountability + Do Muslims Love Jesus?

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00:01:18.000 Welcome to the YRefi studio here in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:21.000 Blake, how are we doing?

00:01:22.000 Oh, we're doing splendid.

00:01:24.000 April 21st, 2026.

00:01:25.000 And, you know, there's a lot of people.

00:01:29.000 That do not work that hard in politics.

00:01:32.000 They're there for the photo ops and, you know, I guess the cocktail parties and the rubber chicken dinners.

00:01:39.000 Now there are people that are not like that, like Senator Eric Schmidt, who just closed up a hearing, ran all the way to his office, and he's joining us now.

00:01:47.000 And he's got a packed schedule today.

00:01:49.000 I know because we fit this interview in between a bunch of different things.

00:01:54.000 Senator, thank you for making the time.

00:01:55.000 We always make time for you, my friend.

00:01:57.000 I love you.

00:01:58.000 Wonderful. 0.96

00:02:00.000 Red blooded American audience.

00:02:02.000 We love it.

00:02:02.000 Thank you.

00:02:02.000 Yeah, the grassroots is here, Senator.

00:02:04.000 You were leading a hearing this morning on Operation Arctic Frost, which is a very frosty, cold, fitting title for that.

00:02:17.000 That, by the way, I just want to remind this audience, included spying on Turning Point and our affiliate organizations.

00:02:23.000 And you were leading the charge this morning.

00:02:25.000 I wanted to get you on right away to tell the audience about why you're leading this hearing, what you've discovered, and what the status is.

00:02:32.000 Yeah, the focus of our hearing, there's been a couple hearings on Arctic Frost.

00:02:36.000 And as your audience knows, this was the effort by Jack Smith and others essentially to have this dragnet of not just President Trump for the trying to imprison him for the rest of his life.

00:02:49.000 But to pull in anybody, the crime being they had an R next to their name or they were part of the American right, Turning Point being one of it.

00:02:56.000 I was actually the chairman of the Republican Attorneys General Association at the time they had subpoenaed.

00:03:02.000 They'd done all this sort of work, again, for Jack Smith's kind of show me the man, I'll show you the crime effort, and really to try to destroy a movement.

00:03:10.000 I think that's what this really was about.

00:03:11.000 But the hearing today was the focus was the coordination that took place because it wasn't just Jack Smith.

00:03:18.000 This was, you know, two days after President Trump announces he's running for president again.

00:03:22.000 Jack Smith is appointed special counsel.

00:03:25.000 The Fulton County case, the Fonnie Willis case, that gets set up.

00:03:31.000 One of the assistant prosecutors is meeting, we find out, is meeting with the White House officials.

00:03:36.000 There's communication that we unveiled today as part of the documents when they're trying to set up this meeting.

00:03:43.000 Senior White House officials are saying, oh my gosh, Fonnie Willis is an icon.

00:03:46.000 I stand with her.

00:03:48.000 It's crazy.

00:03:49.000 It's like fanboy or fangirl kind of mentality for Fonnie Willis.

00:03:53.000 And then you had the number three person, Colangelo at DOJ, go to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.

00:03:59.000 No one does that.

00:03:59.000 No one leaves that spot to go to the Manhattan DA's office.

00:04:03.000 But why did he do that?

00:04:05.000 Because it was another effort to prosecute Trump.

00:04:07.000 But really, this Arctic Frost investigation, it pulled in all kinds of conservative organizations.

00:04:14.000 And really, what they were trying to do, Andrew, was to map a political movement and to intimidate and litigate people out of their organizations.

00:04:23.000 It was too expensive.

00:04:25.000 So the prosecution and the effort, the procedure was the penalty, right?

00:04:29.000 They knew they weren't going to get any convictions, but you make people, you ruin their careers, you make them spend a bunch of money on lawyers on this.

00:04:35.000 This was a very coordinated effort by Jack Smith, who's a total dirtbag.

00:04:38.000 To roll in the entire conservative apparatus.

00:04:41.000 Well, so as you say, for them, the process was the punishment.

00:04:45.000 So, what can we do today?

00:04:48.000 Can we actually get prosecutions related to this, or is there a reverse process that we can enact on them?

00:04:54.000 What's the objective here?

00:04:55.000 Yeah, so I think it's a great question because I get asked that all the time, right?

00:04:59.000 We're unveiling this stuff, but what's going to happen?

00:05:01.000 And as a former attorney general, former prosecutor, I'm very interested in this question too.

00:05:05.000 I think there's two routes here.

00:05:07.000 I actually asked one of the witnesses today that if this went beyond just the political bias, There's a criminal aspect to this if you go beyond that, and it's a potential conspiracy against rights, right?

00:05:19.000 And that is what could be on the table if a federal prosecutor chose to move forward on that.

00:05:24.000 That's one possibility.

00:05:26.000 I also think one of the things, and I think this is going to happen, guys.

00:05:30.000 I think if you go back, and this Arctic Frost stuff is like 2021 into 2022 into 2024 range, right?

00:05:41.000 The 2023 area.

00:05:41.000 But this started.

00:05:43.000 When they were spying on President Trump when he was a political candidate, right?

00:05:46.000 That's when this all started.

00:05:48.000 They laundered this fake dossier into an intelligence community document.

00:05:53.000 Brennan, Comey, Clapper, all that group.

00:05:59.000 They were using that then to try to sideline a presidency.

00:06:02.000 They spied on him when he was a candidate, tried to sideline his presidency.

00:06:05.000 Tulsi Gabbard just came out with new documents last week that the first impeachment effort was a total sham.

00:06:12.000 We already knew that.

00:06:12.000 But the fact is the IG, the person that's supposed to review it, never even looked at the document, never taught.

00:06:18.000 And the witnesses that they relied on were people that were overtly partisan and they just made this stuff up.

00:06:23.000 So I think the straightest line you can draw to prosecutions is this broad conspiracy that began with those actors at the beginning.

00:06:32.000 And here's why that's important because a lot of the challenges sometimes are with the statute of limitations, right?

00:06:37.000 It runs after a certain period of time.

00:06:38.000 But there isn't one for a conspiracy.

00:06:41.000 So if you're part of the original conspiracy on mile marker one, and you then leave government service or do something or leave office or whatever, in mile marker five, you are still responsible for the effects and the consequences of that conspiracy on mile marker 10.

00:06:57.000 And I think that's where we're at right now.

00:06:58.000 So I think that's the way to go after this.

00:07:01.000 And there's a lot of people that should be implicated.

00:07:03.000 Are you going to be making do you think this committee?

00:07:07.000 These hearings, are they going to result in criminal referrals to the DOJ?

00:07:11.000 Well, we have one part left.

00:07:14.000 So we've had a couple of hearings now.

00:07:15.000 And my prediction is that this will culminate with a hearing with Jack Smith.

00:07:19.000 And I think that'll be where you'll have the fireworks.

00:07:22.000 And then my hope is that there's enough evidence here that this just went beyond just something that people think is disgusting, but actually was much more than that.

00:07:33.000 And so, but the reason why we're having these hearings, guys, before we get to Jack Smith, so Jack Smith already testified in front of the House on the Senate Judiciary Committee, we want to get as much of all of those relevant documents.

00:07:44.000 And most of them have come from whistleblowers because the last thing you want to do is have Jack Smith up there who kind of knows everything that went down, and we don't have as much information as we should.

00:07:44.000 Documents as we can.

00:07:54.000 And so I think that's why we're continuing to request these documents that get to Jack Smith.

00:07:59.000 And then hopefully, like I said, I hope DOJ moves forward on this conspiracy charge that I think they can make.

00:08:07.000 Good.

00:08:08.000 And if anybody I trust with this process, it's you, Senator.

00:08:11.000 So we're going to stay.

00:08:14.000 Very well aware of what you're doing here because I think it's important, along with the DNI revelations that you mentioned with the inspector general and the first impeachment.

00:08:21.000 I'm going to play a Joy Reid clip here.

00:08:24.000 Sot one.

00:08:25.000 Democrats do not play politics the way Republicans do.

00:08:30.000 The difference between the parties.

00:08:31.000 They do not.

00:08:31.000 Joy.

00:08:32.000 They do not.

00:08:33.000 Democrats play by the Marquise de Queensberry rules.

00:08:37.000 I think they're not rule breakers.

00:08:39.000 What's been.

00:08:40.000 You're trying to tell me.

00:08:41.000 They're not.

00:08:42.000 If the Democrats take the Senate in 2027.

00:08:46.000 I hope.

00:08:47.000 In 2027.

00:08:48.000 And Alito retires and Trump names a Supreme Court justice, that the Democrats are going to have hearings and actually confirm him?

00:08:58.000 I think they will.

00:08:59.000 Democrats capitulate and they try to play by the rules.

00:09:02.000 Republicans don't care about the rules, they rewrite the rules.

00:09:05.000 I do get a kick that we complain about the exact same thing on each side.

00:09:10.000 Senator, we have you.

00:09:12.000 There's so much we could get into, by the way.

00:09:14.000 Reconciliation's coming up.

00:09:16.000 I know you guys are working on that later this afternoon.

00:09:19.000 And let's just start there.

00:09:20.000 Reconciliation.

00:09:21.000 Okay, so.

00:09:22.000 We have yet to get the Save America Act done.

00:09:25.000 Now we're already moving on to spying and FISA.

00:09:29.000 What is your reaction to that?

00:09:31.000 And do you think we're going to see any action on the reconciliation side to get some of these priorities done?

00:09:37.000 Yeah, so let's talk reconciliation.

00:09:39.000 First of all, we should be back on, get back to the Save America Act. 1.00

00:09:42.000 I mean, I just don't, I think that election integrity, and, you know, I've been in close contact with the president about this, and not only do we have the two, the pieces of making sure only Americans can vote in American elections and photo ID, but then also getting rid of these mail in balloting scams, making sure men can't compete in women's sports, and getting rid of this transgender mutilation for our kids. 0.99

00:10:01.000 Those are all 80 20, 90 10 issues, and we ought to spend all the time necessary to get that done. 0.93

00:10:08.000 But back on reconciliation.

00:10:10.000 Effectively, what we're going to do here is since the Democrats have blocked the ICE funding, they went from defund the police to defund ICE now.

00:10:17.000 This is just in their DNA.

00:10:19.000 They hate law enforcement.

00:10:20.000 They love illegal aliens more than they love Americans. 0.67

00:10:23.000 It's just who they are.

00:10:24.000 And so they've had this blockade.

00:10:25.000 And so now our response is going to be we're not going to just do one year funding for ICE and for deportations.

00:10:32.000 We're going to supercharge that in a multi year set, at least three years worth of funding, so we don't have to deal with this nonsense again in September 30th or even next year, right?

00:10:42.000 That's the plan.

00:10:44.000 And I'm actually looking for more things to do in that bucket about maybe getting after and dismantling these sanctuary jurisdictions.

00:10:53.000 But that'll be the focus, which will be the ICE funding and money for deportations.

00:10:58.000 I've said on your show, you guys believe this, I believe this.

00:11:00.000 Our response to mass migration must be mass deportations, okay?

00:11:06.000 Because that Joy Reid quote that you had on the other side of the clip, I couldn't disagree more.

00:11:11.000 The Democrats play for keeps here. 0.67

00:11:14.000 What they're trying to do is ultimately import a bunch of voters because they know people are leaving blue states.

00:11:20.000 This is all an electoral play.

00:11:22.000 They've lost the case with the American people.

00:11:24.000 And our response shouldn't be, well, okay, that's in the past.

00:11:27.000 Our response is people have broken the law and we can't tolerate this.

00:11:31.000 If we still believe we're a sovereign nation, if we still believe that America is a nation, that it's not some economic zone, that we're a nation and a people, we need to defend it.

00:11:39.000 And that's why this reconciliation piece is important.

00:11:41.000 Well, so this is, I mean, I couldn't agree with you more, Senator, but what frustrates me to no end, and I know it frustrates Blake. Is instead of getting mass deportations, instead of getting more, like, I don't know, tough, aggressive actions, we're getting pitched again and again and again this diet amnesty garbage because they think it pulls better.

00:12:02.000 I will scream it from the top of my lungs until, I don't know, I'm done screaming, I guess. 0.65

00:12:07.000 I run out of air.

00:12:08.000 But I want somebody to hear me that, listen, if you're going to cuck out on deportations and immigration, you will depress turnout at the midterms. 0.95

00:12:18.000 I don't care that you see a 75 number next to the diet amnesty crap. 0.60

00:12:22.000 You will depress our base and we will not get out and vote for you in the midterms. 0.94

00:12:26.000 Yes.

00:12:27.000 And we're in a base turnout election model.

00:12:29.000 We have been for a long time.

00:12:30.000 It started with Obama and Trump was the sort of what supercharged our base.

00:12:35.000 And by the way, their base too.

00:12:36.000 But that's where we're at.

00:12:37.000 And that's how we're going to win this coalition that this immigration question is at the front and center.

00:12:43.000 And by the way, it was the central topic when President Trump came down the escalator.

00:12:48.000 To say out loud what so many people in middle America, where I'm from, have been feeling for a long time.

00:12:54.000 They were pissed off that their jobs got shipped over to China, these blue collar workers, these blue collar jobs, people I grew up around, my family.

00:13:00.000 And when they turned around to look for new jobs, this country was flooded with illegal immigration that took the jobs or suppressed wages.

00:13:06.000 Now it's happening with white collar jobs like H 1B, which is foreign workers, or even the OPT, which are foreign visas for students now to take our jobs. 0.51

00:13:15.000 People are tired of it.

00:13:16.000 And so I agree with you.

00:13:17.000 We can't lose the plot here.

00:13:19.000 We have to fulfill this promise.

00:13:20.000 That President Trump made on the campaign trail.

00:13:23.000 He didn't shy away from it.

00:13:24.000 This was, I was with him a lot.

00:13:26.000 This was mentioned in every rally.

00:13:28.000 Every time he talked, he was dealing with the 15 million people who came here illegally.

00:13:33.000 And he would listen, he trial balloons things at these rallies to see what people react to.

00:13:37.000 And the reason you kept hearing mass deportations is because the crowd would go nuts for it time and time again.

00:13:44.000 Have we forgotten ourselves so easily after Minneapolis?

00:13:48.000 Have we forgotten what got us here?

00:13:50.000 And I just, I'm so grateful to you for.

00:13:53.000 Continuing to beat this drum because it is so critically important to the health, not only of the coalition, but the outcome of the midterms.

00:14:00.000 And if you're not going to give the base what they voted for, what is the point of voting for Republicans?

00:14:05.000 So, I mean, and listen, I want to keep the coalition together as much as anybody, but I can't make the case if I'm not getting results either, right?

00:14:14.000 Right.

00:14:15.000 And our base now, guys, and you know this, is a broader base, which is good, but you have more lower propensity voters.

00:14:24.000 Not everybody in our coalition now votes 10 out of 10 elections.

00:14:27.000 And so we have to give them a reason.

00:14:29.000 We have to hear them and say, we were elected to go do something, and this is what we're doing. 0.98

00:14:34.000 And I think that, you know, again, taking out illegal immigration is a very important part of it. 0.98

00:14:38.000 It's not the only thing, but I think it's central to the message and the policy that people support.

00:14:44.000 Legal immigration is also important. 1.00

00:14:45.000 We need to crack down on that. 1.00

00:14:47.000 Yes.

00:14:48.000 No, and by the way, we should be unafraid to talk about that.

00:14:51.000 And not everybody in my conference wants to, but I'm because if we really are America first, if we really are who we say we are and that we're Fighting for the American people. 0.79

00:15:01.000 The American people begin screwed over through this legal immigration system that is so fraudulent at this point.

00:15:07.000 It needs massive reform. 0.83

00:15:08.000 And H 1B, as we mentioned, look, we don't have a talent problem in this country.

00:15:12.000 We have corporations that would rather import cheaper labor that's more compliant because the only reason they get to stay here is the company sponsoring them. 0.82

00:15:20.000 And so the indignity of the American who has to train his foreign replacement for his severance pay is total, and that's got to end. 0.89

00:15:29.000 Well, it's a mass demoralization campaign, too, by the way.

00:15:32.000 I hear it from the students on campus.

00:15:34.000 It's like, are they going to go into finance, which they don't really want to do?

00:15:37.000 They'd rather do engineering or they'd rather do something in computer science or program or whatever. 1.00

00:15:41.000 But they look around, the class is full of Indian and Chinese foreign visa holders, and they're like, I guess it's not for me. 1.00

00:15:48.000 So that little psychology starts trickling throughout the country and our culture. 1.00

00:15:53.000 And think about it.

00:15:54.000 We're leading the charge on OPT, which is what that visa system is all about.

00:15:59.000 First of all, the universities get full freight.

00:16:01.000 They get 100% full tuition from foreign students. 0.98

00:16:04.000 Okay. 0.86

00:16:04.000 So it's about money. 0.86

00:16:05.000 And then, secondly, the companies don't have to pay taxes for the first year, sometimes first two years for those workers.

00:16:12.000 Okay.

00:16:13.000 So this is people, a lot of people don't know that.

00:16:15.000 So we have incentives built in that shouldn't be there.

00:16:18.000 Now, the good news on OPT, on the student one you're talking about, is that the director of Homeland Security can change that by executive order.

00:16:25.000 Okay.

00:16:25.000 That is not something we have to pass.

00:16:27.000 And so we're, you know, obviously encouraging the secretary to do that.

00:16:32.000 I'll do that as well.

00:16:33.000 And we have made, I want to give the administration its due.

00:16:36.000 I mean, there was that big Cato report that came out trying to dunk on the mass collapse of legal immigration.

00:16:42.000 Meanwhile, our whole base is like slow clapping.

00:16:44.000 So, listen, they're making huge strides in a lot of ways on legal immigration, but I think we need to codify this.

00:16:51.000 I think we need to get the Republicans in D.C. behind the fact that, listen, curtailing legal immigration, you know, I've had my differences with them, but Senator Tom Cotton in Trump 1.0 had a great.

00:17:06.000 Bill on this that would have returned immigration to merit and decreased it from a million point two to five hundred thousand a year.

00:17:11.000 At least that's progress. 0.99

00:17:12.000 I'd go full immigration moratorium, but I'll take what I can get right now.

00:17:15.000 Senator Eric Schmidt, he's an absolute warrior for our side and for the base.

00:17:20.000 God bless him.

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00:17:27.000 I saw it up close and personal in every waking moment, every spare moment that he could.

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00:17:39.000 He was always diving into new ideas, absorbing information, studying up and sharpening his skills.

00:17:44.000 That's why I love Dr. Arne at Hillsdale College.

00:17:47.000 They shared a deep understanding that learning is the key to shaping your character, creating courage, and changing lives.

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00:18:49.000 Without further ado, I want to bring in Scott Jennings, who is a great American and just, he's been a great friend and he is such a strong voice for conservatism in some of the hardest places you can imagine, namely CNN.

00:19:00.000 Scott, welcome back to the show.

00:19:02.000 Andrew, good to hear your voice.

00:19:03.000 Yeah, you too, brother.

00:19:05.000 You're on Capitol Hill today.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:07.000 So, which is not your normal stomping grounds unless you're mixing it up with the CNN folks.

00:19:13.000 But here, let's just give us your stake.

00:19:15.000 I want to do 30,000 feet with Scott Jennings, the state of the movement, the state of the country right now, and where we need to go next.

00:19:22.000 Well, the state of the movement right now is a little unsettled, but I think we all need to realize what's at stake in November.

00:19:29.000 I mean, I say this a lot, and I know Charlie felt strongly about this, too.

00:19:33.000 The future of Western civilization is at stake.

00:19:35.000 I mean, I look at what's going on just in the last few days, few weeks.

00:19:39.000 Our opponents have become even more radical.

00:19:41.000 And you had Democrat members of Congress and Democrat elected officials in Spain over the weekend, effectively telling a bunch of socialists that we need to overthrow the U.S. government. 0.69

00:19:51.000 They're still committed to this unfettered illegal immigration.

00:19:54.000 Getting people here, keeping people here, even if they're violent. 0.96

00:19:57.000 I mean, we're not really arguing about politics as usual.

00:20:00.000 We're arguing about the future of our country and the future of the West.

00:20:03.000 And so, the state of the movement ought to be, Andrew, understanding the stakes.

00:20:08.000 We're not playing small ball here.

00:20:09.000 Everything is on the line.

00:20:10.000 That's my view.

00:20:11.000 I totally agree with that.

00:20:12.000 And we had a guest on, Joshua Hames, who's great, who divided the coalition into the neocons, the patriots, the plan trusters, the dissidents that feel like it's their job to hold the admins' feet to the fire, but they're supportive.

00:20:26.000 And then the accelerationists.

00:20:27.000 And I think that's a pretty good taxonomy about how the base is actually divided.

00:20:31.000 And by the way, the accelerationists want to pull the dissidents away, and the neocons want to pull the plan trusters away and drive a stake right in the middle and divide us.

00:20:40.000 We have to stay united because your point is well made.

00:20:43.000 Democrats are unacceptable.

00:20:45.000 We cannot go that way for another 10 million invasion in our country.

00:20:48.000 I want to show you Chris Murphy, Senator Chris Murphy's tweet here. 0.98

00:20:52.000 It's replying to Ali Vase.

00:20:53.000 He says, At least 26 Iranian shadow fleet vessels bypass U.S. blockade.

00:20:59.000 He responds, Awesome.

00:21:01.000 And then you got to love Senator Fetterman, who just kind of calls a spade a spade. 0.86

00:21:08.000 And he says, Yeah, my country's rooting for Iran. 0.60

00:21:10.000 SOT 19.

00:21:11.000 A lot of people in my party and a lot of people in the media have turned Iran into the underdog.

00:21:17.000 You know, they're like Rudy and putting them up on their shoulders and cheering for Iran at this point.

00:21:22.000 It's absurd.

00:21:23.000 It's absurd.

00:21:24.000 You know, I'm going to back the president, I'm going to back our military in Israel through until that 60 day is triggered.

00:21:33.000 And then there's an opportunity to extend that by 30 days, no matter how many times you're going to vote no, no, no.

00:21:40.000 Why? 0.84

00:21:41.000 Because that just has empowered and emboldened Iran to continue for these things. 0.95

00:21:47.000 He makes a great point. 0.86

00:21:48.000 And listen, I was skeptical about the war.

00:21:50.000 I didn't want to go in.

00:21:51.000 I'll just be candid.

00:21:52.000 The cards on the table.

00:21:53.000 But once he made that decision, I'm going to back our guys.

00:21:56.000 Okay.

00:21:56.000 Scott, your reaction.

00:21:57.000 Of course.

00:21:58.000 Well, I totally agree with you.

00:22:00.000 Whether you were hesitant about this or all in, once America is involved in a conflict, can't we root for America?

00:22:06.000 Why can't people tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys here?

00:22:10.000 That's number one.

00:22:11.000 Number two, if anybody watched 60 Minutes on Sunday night, I mean, you've got the UN and other weapons experts saying, yes, Iran has 970 pounds of enriched uranium. 0.90

00:22:21.000 We know they have it. 0.78

00:22:22.000 That's enough to make 10 or 11 nuclear bombs.

00:22:24.000 So, Donald Trump has always said from the beginning, I will not allow these people to build and possess a nuclear weapon.

00:22:31.000 That's essentially what he's executing on.

00:22:33.000 So, we're in it.

00:22:34.000 We want to take away their ability to have nuclear weapons. 0.56

00:22:37.000 And that's really the bottom line, I think, for American goals. 0.70

00:22:42.000 And yet, you have Democrats out here cheerleading for the Iranian regime, hoping for bad outcomes. 0.67

00:22:47.000 They hate Donald Trump more than they love America. 0.84

00:22:51.000 That is basically the ideology.

00:22:53.000 Of a major political party in this country right now, and the risks of putting them back in charge for whatever divisions or, you know, little buckets we're in as conservatives, the wages of putting those people back in charge are absolutely severe.

00:23:09.000 That's all accurate, and it's very disturbing they're doing that, but we can see why they might be doing that, which is we can look at the polls.

00:23:16.000 The conflict with Iran was started with not a ton of buy in, and I don't think that buy in is going up as it extends on.

00:23:23.000 So, Even if the goal is just Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, what's either the best way to make this case going forward or what should the agenda be for the administration?

00:23:35.000 How much runway do they have to get this wrapped up, do you think?

00:23:38.000 Well, great question.

00:23:40.000 I mean, my view is national security ought to be run based on goals, not on daily tracking polls.

00:23:45.000 And so if I'm Donald Trump, we're in this war, he had a goal and he has a mission to keep them from getting a nuclear weapon.

00:23:51.000 You really can't end it until you tell the American people you've taken it away.

00:23:54.000 I think to end it prematurely would actually be.

00:23:57.000 You just want to look at it purely politically, that would be the worst politics because then you've gone in and you didn't actually achieve what you said you wanted to achieve as your principal goal.

00:24:06.000 So you've got to do this.

00:24:08.000 And I think we're on the brink of doing it. 0.71

00:24:09.000 I mean, look, I think the president, frankly, has always had pretty good instincts when it comes to Iran. 0.94

00:24:13.000 He had them in the first term. 0.94

00:24:15.000 I think he actually has them right now, have a lot of confidence in what the U.S. military is able to do when you take them off the leash, which we've seen over the last few weeks.

00:24:23.000 So, you know, I put my trust in the president on this.

00:24:26.000 By the way, we all debate these things.

00:24:28.000 I debate them every night on CNN.

00:24:30.000 He knows more than we do.

00:24:31.000 He sees things we don't see.

00:24:33.000 He has information we're not privy to.

00:24:35.000 And so I'm just choosing to say, look, I voted for a commander in chief here.

00:24:39.000 I made a choice.

00:24:40.000 And when you vote for a commander in chief, you got to trust their judgment.

00:24:42.000 That's where I am on this.

00:24:43.000 And look, at the end of this thing, my view is if he says we went in, they no longer possess the ability to have a nuclear weapon, the American people will say, oh, well, that was a good idea and that was worth it. 0.81

00:24:53.000 Because if you look at some of the other polls, they agree with his broad goals no nukes, no exporting of terror, and so on.

00:25:01.000 And so if the American people agree with the goals, And then you achieve the goals in a reasonable amount of time, which I think we're still within that window, it'll ultimately be viewed as a successful operation.

00:25:12.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:25:13.000 I agree that there is a potential upswing here if we can wrap this thing up and achieve the stated goals, namely putting excavators in there with U.S. officials digging up the uranium.

00:25:24.000 I think that would be a really powerful visual for the world. 0.98

00:25:27.000 I worry that Iran are just a bunch of liars, and this is what they do they drag things out. 1.00

00:25:32.000 So I guess the question that a lot of people are asking right now, Scott, is. 1.00

00:25:36.000 Where you have our negotiators going to Iran, and you got, I think it's Witkoff, Kushner, and JD again.

00:25:44.000 They're going.

00:25:45.000 We're assuming they're going to play games with us.

00:25:47.000 Do you bomb when President Trump's timeline comes to an end?

00:25:53.000 Do you start bombing or do you extend the timeline?

00:25:55.000 What would be your advice to the president?

00:25:56.000 I think they've extended the ceasefire by one day.

00:25:59.000 I don't think the vice president actually left Washington as we record this interview right now.

00:26:03.000 And so there's obviously, we're in a little bit of a murky period.

00:26:07.000 My view is, you go in good faith, you try to get a deal that takes the nuclear weapons away.

00:26:13.000 And if you sense that they are lying, If you sense that they are jerking you around, if you sense that they just are not operating in good faith, then you have to go in and enforce your mission here.

00:26:23.000 And the mission is to take away their nuclear weapons.

00:26:26.000 I mean, the president, I think, wants peace.

00:26:28.000 And I think he's showing some restraint right now.

00:26:30.000 I actually think the naval blockade was a stroke of genius.

00:26:34.000 And that's all working.

00:26:36.000 But at some point, I agree with your statement. 0.90

00:26:38.000 They're liars. 0.93

00:26:39.000 Look, you can't trust these folks. 0.98

00:26:41.000 The only way to enforce an agreement with these kinds of people is to really put them in a position where they have no choice but to comply.

00:26:49.000 So, we'll find out more.

00:26:50.000 As I said, I'm going to trust the president's instincts and the information that he has on this.

00:26:54.000 I'll tell you one thing that I think is true.

00:26:55.000 We've scrambled the Iranian government to the point where it strikes me there's some people that want to do a deal.

00:27:00.000 There's probably some people that don't.

00:27:02.000 And our government trying to figure out who's who here is probably part of the confusion that's going on.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, well, you're totally right.

00:27:09.000 I think there's been a lot of reporting on that, that there's factions within the remaining hierarchy of the Iranian government, IRGC.

00:27:16.000 Some are hardliners, some are more willing to make a deal.

00:27:18.000 And I think there's some confusion and some infighting that's going on.

00:27:21.000 But one thing is Clear, they're loaded to bear right now.

00:27:23.000 Our military is restocked. 0.92

00:27:25.000 Israel's restocked. 0.99

00:27:26.000 I mean, I think if they're going to try and play games, they're going to find out the hard way. 0.99

00:27:32.000 And I hope that doesn't happen.

00:27:33.000 I want peace more than anything.

00:27:36.000 I think the president does as well, but we also can't mess around with that.

00:27:39.000 All right, I got to throw this up here.

00:27:41.000 This is a new poll.

00:27:42.000 I'm just going to get your reactions.

00:27:43.000 More fun.

00:27:44.000 The 2028 Dem primary polling by Echelon.

00:27:48.000 I doubt you've seen this, but it's got two Californians at the top, Scott.

00:27:52.000 Harris at 22%, and Newsom, 21%.

00:27:56.000 Harris.

00:27:57.000 Was just caught on camera.

00:27:59.000 Apparently, it wasn't caught. 1.00

00:28:00.000 She said it willingly that black women need to get theirs too and be a little bit more selfish, which is fascinating. 1.00

00:28:06.000 What is your take of this? 1.00

00:28:07.000 Buttigieg in third, AOC in fourth, Shapiro down hard, only at 5%.

00:28:12.000 I know it's early, but my take is God is good all the time.

00:28:16.000 And if he gives the Democrats Kamala Harris one more time, then I look forward to another Republican victory in 2028. 0.52

00:28:23.000 I don't think the American people are ever going to put her in the White House. 0.97

00:28:26.000 I certainly don't think they're going to put this clown. 0.98

00:28:28.000 Gavin Newsom in the White House ever. 0.91

00:28:30.000 I see these other names on here. 0.89

00:28:32.000 I mean, you want to talk about an absolute clown car of people. 0.50

00:28:36.000 I don't see a president.

00:28:37.000 I don't see a commander in chief on that list.

00:28:40.000 And if you look at what all these people are going to have to do and say to get their nomination, they'll be so far outside of the mainstream of American political thought come 2028, they'll be unrecognizable.

00:28:49.000 But if they want to give it back to Harris, be my guest, Andrew.

00:28:52.000 Well, listen, Scott Jennings, you're a great man.

00:28:52.000 Yeah.

00:28:56.000 Everybody pick up his book, A Revolution of Common Sense, by a man who exhibits it daily in some of the toughest places.

00:29:02.000 And be encouraged by this, folks.

00:29:05.000 I talked to Rich Barris, who is not always a bearer of white pills, and he said, The one upside we always have is the Democrats are seriously good at screwing things up.

00:29:16.000 They are overreaching at every turn.

00:29:17.000 Scott Jennings, thank you for joining us today.

00:29:19.000 Thanks, guys.

00:29:20.000 Great to hear your all's voices today.

00:29:22.000 You too.

00:29:22.000 Thank you.

00:29:22.000 All right.

00:29:23.000 There's so much to get to, but I want to give a word, and I don't know if, Blake, you want to hit this.

00:29:28.000 Virginia is happening today.

00:29:29.000 It is today.

00:29:30.000 I jumped the gun a week ago.

00:29:32.000 This is the day.

00:29:34.000 You can vote in person.

00:29:35.000 You can vote in a lot of different places, I believe.

00:29:37.000 I think you can go to your.

00:29:39.000 Local courthouse, as well as whatever your precinct is.

00:29:41.000 Yeah.

00:29:42.000 Might be mistaken, but whatever it is.

00:29:43.000 What do they vote, though?

00:29:44.000 What do they vote?

00:29:45.000 Yes or no?

00:29:46.000 No.

00:29:46.000 You have to vote no.

00:29:47.000 Vote no.

00:29:48.000 Yeah.

00:29:48.000 I'd hope you've paid enough attention to know which we support here, but yes.

00:29:52.000 Yes.

00:29:53.000 You want to vote no.

00:29:54.000 You usually are only going to get to vote in one house race.

00:29:56.000 If you're in Virginia, you're basically voting in five house races.

00:29:59.000 So five times as valuable matters a lot.

00:30:03.000 It's going to make a difference in the house this fall.

00:30:07.000 This is a D plus five state, meaning Kamala barely won it.

00:30:11.000 It's not like a land side state.

00:30:13.000 They have a 6 5 map currently with six Democrat seats and five Republicans.

00:30:18.000 So you need to go out and vote.

00:30:20.000 Vote no in Virginia.

00:30:22.000 The wind in our sails is the fact that Spamberger is increasingly unpopular in that state because she went in and went full Virginia.

00:30:30.000 She started taxing the people, she started dissolving the cooperation with ICE.

00:30:37.000 So they got a bunch of predators all over the state now that are not getting arrested by DHS.

00:30:42.000 Massive problem.

00:30:43.000 So they want to take it from 6 5 to 10 1.

00:30:47.000 Which is now, and they're calling it fair.

00:30:49.000 They're going to take, they're going to run, I think, five different districts all through Fairfax County up to Arlington.

00:30:54.000 It's a bunch of little snake shaped districts.

00:30:58.000 It is the true, I mean, it is play to win gerrymandering.

00:31:02.000 You can say that much about them, that they are going all out.

00:31:06.000 They dragged Obama out of retirement.

00:31:08.000 Obama hasn't said much really since he was president.

00:31:12.000 Have you ever thought about that?

00:31:13.000 No, and then he came out of the dragon for this.

00:31:16.000 For how big the Obama cult was in 2008, and younger people won't remember this, it was.

00:31:20.000 It was a great madness.

00:31:22.000 People were talking about Obama as like a world historical genius, you know, Jesus Muhammad Obama.

00:31:29.000 We were kind of at that level of mass hysteria.

00:31:32.000 And then he was president and he left, and no one talks about Obama anymore.

00:31:36.000 But they dragged him out to campaign for this. 0.58

00:31:38.000 Well, I think he learned his lesson during the 2024 campaign where he started lecturing black men on not voting Republican. 0.71

00:31:44.000 Yeah, well, he'll come out much later.

00:31:46.000 I just think he doesn't care that much.

00:31:48.000 I think he loves to do his Netflix shows.

00:31:51.000 He's like retirement.

00:31:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:52.000 He's living.

00:31:53.000 Yeah, he enjoys retirement.

00:31:54.000 He's.

00:31:55.000 You know, Charlie would always say about Obama, it's like the weak spot about Obama is he wasn't willing to work that hard.

00:32:02.000 Let me show you Virginia with Democrats in power.

00:32:06.000 This is the Virginia that Democrats have created, SOC 20.

00:32:10.000 The adult 18 year old illegal immigrant found guilty of sexually assaulting several high school girls in Virginia has just been sentenced to 100 days behind bars.

00:32:20.000 And one correction there, he's actually 19 years old.

00:32:22.000 We know he was 19 years old attending that school as an adult.

00:32:26.000 However, with time served in the calculations for a misdemeanor crime, he has 135 days left in prison, about four and a half months.

00:32:36.000 Well, and he better be deported immediately after that.

00:32:38.000 But here's the thing. 0.95

00:32:40.000 So, this is an illegal immigrant who went into a Virginia high school and started groping a bunch of girls. 0.75

00:32:47.000 It's really his human right. 0.76

00:32:48.000 Well, yeah.

00:32:50.000 And so, instead of dealing with him like a criminal, this had to be federally charged, by the way. 0.98

00:32:55.000 And this 19 year old illegal immigrant goes into your kids' high school and starts feeling them up in the crotch and all kinds of stuff. 0.99

00:33:04.000 Just terrible stuff. 1.00

00:33:06.000 This man.

00:33:08.000 Is exactly the vision of what America should be according to the Democrats. 0.95

00:33:12.000 If you want a vision of the future, just picture an illegal migrant asylum seeker groping your 14 year old daughter forever, to paraphrase George Orwell. 0.95

00:33:22.000 Yeah, this is what we have. 0.97

00:33:23.000 So vote Virginia, vote Virginia, vote Virginia, vote no.

00:33:28.000 Now, listen, I'm not going to sugarcoat this for you.

00:33:32.000 The odds are against us, as they often are, because our people are unenthusiastic about showing up right now.

00:33:39.000 Don't know what to tell you.

00:33:40.000 So, if you want a country that your kids can inhabit that will be safe for the future, vote.

00:33:47.000 It's one of the most frustrating things that there's a lot of people in the base where, let's just be frank, they only feel motivated to vote when Trump is personally on the ballot.

00:33:57.000 And a lot of, I know that's not ever, I know it's not many of the people listening to this program, but those people exist.

00:34:03.000 And you're not going to save your country that way.

00:34:06.000 You have to, I would always tell this to Charlie, you have to care as much about.

00:34:10.000 Salvaging this country as the left cares about ruining it.

00:34:13.000 And look at the left.

00:34:15.000 They care a lot about ruining it.

00:34:18.000 They unfriend people over their politics endlessly.

00:34:22.000 They disown family members over politics.

00:34:25.000 They, instead of going to church on Sunday, they go to their climate march or their anti this or that march or their gay marriage march, their trans rights march.

00:34:35.000 Like that's church for them.

00:34:36.000 They, instead of tithing, they give their money to that.

00:34:39.000 They can revolve their whole life around this.

00:34:42.000 And that's terrible.

00:34:44.000 But we have to respond to that by actually caring and getting out and doing the work.

00:34:48.000 Yeah, this is their proposed wording, or this is the wording on the proposed constitutional amendment.

00:34:53.000 Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness?

00:35:03.000 Oh, that's right.

00:35:04.000 So are 90% of Virginians Democrats?

00:35:08.000 No.

00:35:09.000 But they want 90% of the congressional districts to be Democrat.

00:35:13.000 It's a bold play. 1.00

00:35:14.000 Fairness.

00:35:15.000 Well, you know, yeah, it's an Orwellian wording, but it is also, it's playing to win.

00:35:19.000 And you'll notice the contrast that they went for this.

00:35:23.000 Indiana did not go for this.

00:35:25.000 So Indiana was not really rewarded for showing hesitation on this front.

00:35:30.000 They also did this in California.

00:35:32.000 I mean, California, what, 53 House seats, and they're going to have two, three Republicans left by the end of this year.

00:35:40.000 So just remember that you are against, you know, Joy Reid's urging there.

00:35:46.000 We are.

00:35:47.000 Playing against a political party that does not follow the rules.

00:35:50.000 They do play for keeps and they mean serious business.

00:35:53.000 So hopefully, our side will get out and defeat this Orwellian constitutional amendment in Virginia.

00:36:00.000 Vote no in Virginia.

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00:38:38.000 We are going to be joined momentarily by Mark Lynch, who is running for Senate in the great state of South Carolina.

00:38:46.000 We had him and Paul Danz on a few weeks ago.

00:38:48.000 They were both running since, and we asked people to weigh in, and it was a pretty even split.

00:38:53.000 It was really even.

00:38:54.000 Yeah, we had him.

00:38:55.000 Since then, Mr. Danz has dropped out, and he has endorsed Mr. Lynch.

00:38:59.000 So no split anymore.

00:39:01.000 So if you're looking for someone to replace Lady Graham, Mr. Lynch is the option.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, well, and so I think he's, okay, it looks like we're just getting him.

00:39:10.000 Sorted here because he's on the road traveling, campaigning as he should be, and his connection has been a little bit spotty, but it looks like we're getting close to having him on.

00:39:20.000 But again, Blake, you've been looking at the polling recently, so why don't you get that ready because it is within striking distance.

00:39:26.000 So obviously, Lady Graham has the endorsement of the president.

00:39:30.000 They're old friends.

00:39:31.000 There's nothing we can do about that.

00:39:33.000 But every so often, you have to make a principled stand and you have to say, listen, we think what's better for the country is replacing a neocon warmonger who Is more excited about sending boys and boys, American men and women off to foreign lands to go die in foreign wars than taking care of the home base.

00:39:51.000 And that's why this is such an important race for us to focus on.

00:39:55.000 So it sounds like we have Mark Lynch.

00:39:58.000 Mr. Lynch, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:40:01.000 We're excited for you to have a clear path in the primary now to take on Senator Lindsey Graham.

00:40:07.000 Tell us, give us an update of the state of the race.

00:40:10.000 Yes, it's been exciting.

00:40:13.000 Just 10 days ago or so, as y'all were saying, Paul decided to drop out and he endorsed me.

00:40:20.000 And what an awesome thing, humble, just a great patriot, because he said publicly to everybody in our forum that night at USC that his main focus was to take Lindsey Graham out.

00:40:33.000 And I had the ability to do that and the funding.

00:40:36.000 And so what a great patriot to join forces.

00:40:41.000 And not have internal fighting anymore and get another candidate out. 0.51

00:40:46.000 So we were basically going head to head now against Lindsey. 0.54

00:40:49.000 And so all his supports coming our way.

00:40:53.000 And before that, the polling had already changed.

00:40:56.000 We were in second place and Lindsey was down to 41%.

00:41:01.000 And so with Paul's support now and all of his fans coming over to us, it's going to be an awesome race.

00:41:09.000 And we're going to give America a great, Anniversary present on his 250th birthday with the removal of a traitor in Congress.

00:41:17.000 Wow, that's, I mean, that's strong words there about Lindsey Graham that he's a traitor.

00:41:23.000 Now, I'm just going to play some of the clips of Lindsey Graham in his own words, and I'll have you respond to them, sir.

00:41:31.000 Okay.

00:41:31.000 How about Sot 25?

00:41:33.000 Israel and the United States, you just wait to see what comes in the next two weeks.

00:41:39.000 The next two weeks meaning what? 1.00

00:41:41.000 We're going to blow the hell out of these people. 0.96

00:41:43.000 This regime is in a death row now. 0.99

00:41:46.000 It is going to be on its knees.

00:41:48.000 It's going to fall.

00:41:50.000 And when it falls, we're going to have peace like no other time.

00:41:53.000 We're going to have prosperity.

00:41:55.000 Unlike anyone could ever imagine.

00:41:57.000 Peace brings prosperity.

00:41:58.000 You can't do it by talking.

00:42:00.000 The Democrats criticized this operation.

00:42:02.000 They didn't do a damn thing.

00:42:04.000 These men and women in the military should make us all proud.

00:42:07.000 I'm just going to follow that up with one clip here.

00:42:09.000 So he says, We're going to blow the hell out of these people.

00:42:13.000 Then he said this SOT 22.

00:42:15.000 I go back to South Carolina. 0.99

00:42:17.000 I'm asking them to send their sons and daughters over to the Mideast. 0.93

00:42:20.000 What I want you to do in the Mideast, our friends in Saudi Arabia and other places, step forward and say, This is my fight, too. 0.96

00:42:26.000 I join America.

00:42:27.000 I'm publicly involved in bringing this regime down.

00:42:30.000 So he's asking South Carolina men and women to go and die in the Middle East.

00:42:36.000 Your thoughts on that, sir?

00:42:38.000 Yeah.

00:42:39.000 I'm glad he communicated with South Carolinians again, but that's not going to happen.

00:42:45.000 Our sons and daughters aren't going over there to support another endless war as a bankrupt country that we are.

00:42:54.000 You know, everybody's concerned instead of trying to start World War III like Lindsay's doing and whispering Netanyahu's ear and trying to get him to give him talking points to get Trump convinced.

00:43:06.000 You know, we've got, we have concerns in America and in South Carolina with the terrorist sales all over the country that he allowed.

00:43:14.000 Lindsay allowed to walk in here and grant them all amnesty.

00:43:19.000 Everybody's tired of that.

00:43:20.000 We have problems at home.

00:43:22.000 We've got to take care of America first, not America last.

00:43:27.000 We're not here to support Lindsay's pocketbook anymore with the military industrial complex feeding him millions of dollars of our taxpayers' money.

00:43:37.000 We're not getting what we're paying for, and South Carolina and America is tired of the betrayal, and we're removing Lindsay this cycle, June 9th.

00:43:48.000 Sir, I love all that.

00:43:50.000 How hard is it going to be to, you know, how hard of a climb is it going to be to overcome the Trump endorsement of Lindsey Graham?

00:43:58.000 Well, the people have spoken back.

00:44:01.000 Trump endorsed Lindsey probably about a year ago now.

00:44:05.000 And they remember his Truth Social post in 24, where Trump admitted in print online to the world hey, it's my fault that Lindsey is in office because I endorsed him and he endorsed him again.

00:44:20.000 Everybody believes Trump needed him and is just using him in a lean Senate majority to get some of his bills across the finish line because Lindsey will pull a couple of other Republican senators with him in their voting decisions.

00:44:35.000 And Trump knows that and he knows politics is a dirty game. 0.90

00:44:39.000 You know, if you break the word politics down, poly means many and ticks are blood sucking parasites. 0.99

00:44:45.000 So that's the sport that this is. 0.94

00:44:47.000 It's a blood sport and Trump knows how to win.

00:44:50.000 And so I think he's just doing what he has to do.

00:44:53.000 The nation says on social media months ago, we still support Trump, but his endorsement of Lindsey Graham won't save Lindsey this time.

00:45:03.000 We're all done with Lindsey.

00:45:04.000 And everybody knows that Trump has made several bad endorsements, especially in South Carolina.

00:45:10.000 So we get it, but we have our own minds and we're going to vote the way we're going to vote.

00:45:15.000 We're not going to vote for a traitor who has a 43% conservative voting record, 57% constitutional voting record lifetime.

00:45:24.000 He's failing in every scorecard.

00:45:27.000 And we're tired of paying, you know, in the fourth quarter of 25 and the first quarter of 26, in the budget bill, he funded another $5.7 billion in each budget bill to support illegal aliens and provide shelter and health care.

00:45:43.000 And we don't have money for that. 1.00

00:45:44.000 These aren't even citizens of the country. 0.98

00:45:46.000 And the majority of them are drug cartel members and terrorists.

00:45:50.000 So that's treasonous activity.

00:45:52.000 And we're done with that.

00:45:54.000 Well, you know, you invade the world, you invite the world.

00:45:56.000 And that's Senator Lindsey Graham's mantra right here.

00:45:59.000 He knows he racks up a heck of a debt to these countries all around the world when we go and bomb the hell out of them, like he says.

00:46:06.000 I must say, he at least, we get a lot of Republicans who frustrate us because they're evasive.

00:46:11.000 All you can say about Lindsey is he's very much on his sleeve what he wants, which is lots of wars abroad.

00:46:17.000 He's not being very secretive about it.

00:46:19.000 You know, I want to end the segment by just touting the numbers.

00:46:21.000 As you said, Lindsey has pulled in first, but this is, you need a majority or it goes to a runoff.

00:46:27.000 And in the most recent poll, He's at 41%.

00:46:30.000 That's with 22% unsure.

00:46:32.000 But I feel like if you have been in South Carolina this long and you don't know how you feel about Lindsey, they're probably looking for some kind of alternative.

00:46:40.000 And so we just need you to get hold him below 50% in the first round, and then you could conceivably win a runoff.

00:46:48.000 Mr. Lynch, I'm going to read some names to you, and you can tell me what these mean.

00:46:53.000 Kagan, Sotomayor, Merrick Garland, James Comey, Loretta Lynch, and Robert Mueller.

00:47:04.000 What do all those names mean to you, sir?

00:47:06.000 Yeah.

00:47:07.000 Those are evil judges and people that Lindsey Graham voted for that Biden and Obama wanted confirmed.

00:47:15.000 And those are not the judges that are helping us.

00:47:17.000 They're fighting Trump on everything.

00:47:20.000 And so it just proves more of who Lindsey Graham is.

00:47:25.000 He's not a Republican.

00:47:26.000 And I'm going to ask all Republicans out there if you say you're a Republican, then you cannot vote for somebody that is cited and his voting record, lifetime voting record, everything he's doing is to destroy America and support the Communist Party of the Democrats.

00:47:43.000 He's got to leave.

00:47:45.000 I'm representing you, and we're a God first campaign, and we've got to get our country back to God first, to America first principles that our country was founded on.

00:47:55.000 And Lindsay's not that.

00:47:56.000 And we're all tired of it.

00:47:57.000 We've got a viable candidate in me.

00:48:00.000 It's happening.

00:48:01.000 The polls are proving it.

00:48:02.000 Join us and let's do what's right for this country, for the future of our grandchildren, for America.

00:48:08.000 Yes, sir.

00:48:09.000 So, speaking of the future, you know, we work with a lot of students at Turning Point.

00:48:14.000 A lot of them tune into this show to get a feel for the base and what we're thinking.

00:48:20.000 So, what's your message to them?

00:48:21.000 You're somebody who's run a successful business and you're funding a large part of your campaign on your own back. 0.75

00:48:28.000 What's your message to young people as they come up in a different America than the one you inherited? 0.69

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 First of all, don't give up.

00:48:35.000 America, we're not gone yet.

00:48:38.000 It's close.

00:48:40.000 We've got a lot of problems we've got to fix.

00:48:42.000 We love what Charlie Kirk started and stood for in Turning Point and what y'all are carrying on being all about Jesus Christ and not being ashamed of that and bringing out the message and the truth that our church and state has never been separated.

00:49:01.000 Our founding fathers knew that you had to love Jesus to run for office.

00:49:05.000 I love the book Pastor Matthew Truella put out.

00:49:09.000 I recommend it to everybody about the doctrines of the lesser magistrates.

00:49:14.000 And it just talks about the main point in the book is that when our laws don't match God's laws any further, we've got to resist to whatever level it takes to stop evil.

00:49:24.000 And so I love the education that's happening.

00:49:28.000 People are getting involved.

00:49:30.000 Some of the most intelligent.

00:49:32.000 People that are in the know about everything that's going on in the country or on our college campuses because of what Turning Point started.

00:49:39.000 Thank you for that.

00:49:40.000 Let's keep that going.

00:49:42.000 And let's find the real candidates out there that love Jesus and help us get in.

00:49:48.000 I'm an ordained deacon and we bring God back to the swamp in DC.

00:49:52.000 That's the next mission field my wife and I know we're being sent to and called.

00:49:57.000 And so help us get in.

00:49:59.000 Support us.

00:50:01.000 Call your friends.

00:50:02.000 Tell everybody about me. 0.98

00:50:05.000 The removal of Lindsey Graham will be one of the biggest doge events for the country because trillions of dollars of corrupt, evil money will come to an end.

00:50:14.000 And I'm 100% pro life.

00:50:17.000 God creates humans.

00:50:19.000 He knows us before we were born.

00:50:21.000 We're intricately woven in our mother's womb, and we don't have the right to murder anybody.

00:50:27.000 Amen.

00:50:28.000 And so it's about bringing God back first in the country.

00:50:33.000 Everybody keep praying, you know, but then we've got to go do the work like Charlie started, and we got to get involved, and we got to vote, and we got to be educated about who we vote with.

00:50:45.000 And we're seeing God turning.

00:50:47.000 In this country, turning the country back to Him.

00:50:50.000 And so it's happening.

00:50:52.000 In South Carolina, the majority of the people we meet all across the street, they're true conservative Christian people.

00:50:59.000 It's just overwhelming and just really touches my wife and our hearts about all the prayer support we have.

00:51:07.000 It's spiritual warfare.

00:51:09.000 And that's how we win this on our knees.

00:51:11.000 But then we got to get out and knock doors and phone bank and do all the things it takes.

00:51:16.000 So we're working on, The inflation, I know young people are very concerned about how they'll ever have their own home, how they can afford everything.

00:51:27.000 We're seeing the gas prices going crazy. 1.00

00:51:30.000 We're seeing all the H 1B visa immigrants coming in here and taking American citizens' jobs. 1.00

00:51:37.000 I will fight to end all of that and stop the printing of money and letting the Federal Reserve exist. 1.00

00:51:44.000 It's time to close them and get our money back based on gold and silver.

00:51:49.000 That's God's economy.

00:51:50.000 And all those things.

00:51:53.000 At the deep level, from the top down, will help us get rid of this inflation and start busting up the monopolies that are buying and running and price fixing the homes, inflating the home prices with all this craziness in the economy that's going on.

00:52:10.000 We've got a lot of work to do.

00:52:12.000 We can do it.

00:52:13.000 We'll do it together.

00:52:15.000 It takes everybody's vote.

00:52:17.000 And we've got an opportunity this time, finally, for the first time in 30 years, to remove a trader.

00:52:24.000 And get him gone.

00:52:25.000 So help me get there.

00:52:27.000 Join our grassroots movement in prayer and in donations and sign up to work and help the campaign.

00:52:35.000 Our website is lynchforsenet.com.

00:52:38.000 Yep.

00:52:39.000 And it's going to happen.

00:52:40.000 Yeah.

00:52:40.000 You know, if God is removing Lindsay and appointing me, it's going to happen.

00:52:47.000 He puts everybody he wants in authority.

00:52:50.000 So, this is the year.

00:52:52.000 It's going to happen, and America's ready.

00:52:55.000 Well, I think that was well said.

00:52:57.000 And I completely agree with you.

00:52:59.000 So much of the affordability crisis that we talk about right now is just it's the lords of easy money, as Steve Bannon calls it.

00:53:04.000 It is the printing of endless, endless money that inflates the assets of the incumbent financial class at the expense of the working class and of young people that can no longer afford to get their foot in the door.

00:53:17.000 And it's.

00:53:19.000 It's absolute tragedy what we've done to debase our own currency and print away, fritter away our inheritance on foreign wars and foreign bombing campaigns, blowing the hell out of people we got no issue with, right?

00:53:32.000 Now, I'm not even, listen, I give the president a lot of patience in Iran, a lot of my trust, but this has to stop.

00:53:41.000 The people whispering in his ear to keep moving the goalposts, and now Lindsey's frothing at the mouth about Cuba, it's got to stop.

00:53:52.000 And when people are tempted to get upset or discouraged about the state of the U.S. Senate, just imagine if we weren't giving away deep red states to guys like Lankford or guys like Lindsey Graham, and we could get a Mark Lynch in there that actually cares about this country.

00:54:11.000 I want to put up two things here, just as we're running out of time with you, sir.

00:54:16.000 You mentioned religious attendance.

00:54:18.000 Since 2018, religious attendance by conservatives has been going up.

00:54:23.000 And, you know, Republican women now, about 60% attend church at least once a month, and over 50% of Republican men now.

00:54:31.000 So that's an amazing upward swing that we're seeing.

00:54:34.000 And you mentioned this book.

00:54:35.000 I want to throw it up there because you dropped it The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates by Matthew Truella.

00:54:40.000 So if people are interested in that, and then please go to Lynch for Senate, support this man, get involved in his grassroots campaign.

00:54:47.000 Thank you, Mark Lynch.

00:54:48.000 Thank you for coming on.

00:54:49.000 We appreciate it.

00:54:50.000 And may God bless you.

00:54:51.000 Yes.

00:54:51.000 God bless y'all.

00:54:53.000 Thank you so much.

00:54:54.000 Don't give up.

00:54:55.000 Help us do it.

00:54:56.000 We can do it together.

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00:56:09.000 Welcoming now to the show is one of our own, Lucas Miles.

00:56:13.000 He's the vice president of TPSA Faith and a great American, great patriot, great Christian man who's out there on the front lines every single day.

00:56:20.000 We want to talk about so much with him, including the Make Heaven Crowded Tour, which is marching forward.

00:56:26.000 Welcome, Lucas Miles, back to the show.

00:56:29.000 Hey, thanks for having me.

00:56:30.000 Good to see you guys.

00:56:31.000 All right.

00:56:31.000 What is your next stop on the Make Heaven Crowded Tour?

00:56:34.000 Yeah, April 29th, next Wednesday.

00:56:36.000 We're going to be at Prestonwood Baptist Church.

00:56:39.000 It's a real big church, one of the biggest in America.

00:56:42.000 And we got a great lineup.

00:56:44.000 Myself, Pastor Jack Graham, Erica Kirk is going to be with us.

00:56:47.000 We have George Janko, special musical guest, we'll be announcing very soon.

00:56:51.000 It's going to be an incredible night.

00:56:53.000 Oh, and Allie Beth Stuckey is going to be there as well.

00:56:55.000 So it's a solid lineup and might even have a visit from Special Advisor to the President, Mark Walker, over religious liberty and religious freedom.

00:57:04.000 And it's going to be there.

00:57:05.000 So it's a big night for us.

00:57:07.000 We're expecting 8,000 plus people.

00:57:09.000 I mean, it's a big venue.

00:57:11.000 And so, can't wait to do that next Wednesday.

00:57:14.000 This is a free event, but we encourage people to register.

00:57:17.000 Go to Make Heaven Crowded Tour.com.

00:57:20.000 That's Make Heaven Crowded Tour.com.

00:57:22.000 You can pick from the drop down the Texas stop there at Preston Wood Baptist for the Dallas stop.

00:57:27.000 We'd love to see you there.

00:57:29.000 Wow.

00:57:29.000 So, you got a full lineup you, Erica, Jack Graham, Ali Beth Stuckey, George Janko.

00:57:37.000 George Janko.

00:57:38.000 Wow.

00:57:39.000 Yeah.

00:57:40.000 Jeez.

00:57:40.000 Okay.

00:57:41.000 So, Check that out if you're in the Dallas area, Prestonwood.

00:57:44.000 I've been to that location years and years ago.

00:57:47.000 It's a big church, man.

00:57:48.000 That's a really big church.

00:57:49.000 Beautiful church.

00:57:50.000 Yeah, I went there the first time this past year and was just blown away.

00:57:53.000 It's an incredible location.

00:57:55.000 And Pastor Jack has been outstanding.

00:57:57.000 He's actually speaking at our Pastor Summit tonight, where we're kicking off our Pastor Summit here in Dallas as well.

00:58:03.000 And so glad we're here.

00:58:04.000 Great guy.

00:58:05.000 That's fantastic.

00:58:06.000 Okay.

00:58:06.000 So, what is the point of the Make Heaven Crowded Tour for those who don't know?

00:58:10.000 I think it's in the name.

00:58:11.000 This is really an extension.

00:58:13.000 Yeah, I mean, just.

00:58:14.000 Yeah.

00:58:14.000 To some degree, yeah, right.

00:58:15.000 But, you know, to state the obvious, this is really an extension of what came out of the aftermath and the, I should say, the spiritual uprising on the other side of Charlie's Memorial.

00:58:26.000 We originally had planned at TPSA Faith to do a single event, a large event in 2026 called the Believer Summit.

00:58:32.000 And we had some historical, you know, framework for that.

00:58:37.000 But what we quickly realized is that the movement across this country was too large to contain in just one event.

00:58:43.000 And so we thought we'd have 4,000 people at one Believer Summit.

00:58:46.000 We had 5,500 people just at our First, make heaven crowded stop in one city.

00:58:50.000 So now we're rotating.

00:58:51.000 We have about 30 stops across the country.

00:58:53.000 So I'm on the road a lot right now, but it has been absolutely incredible.

00:58:57.000 We're seeing people saved and come to Christ at every single stop.

00:59:00.000 And this is very revivalistic.

00:59:02.000 It's kind of activating, it's engaging and helping to really just encourage people to push in more with their faith and their spirituality, get connected to a local church.

00:59:13.000 And so these are stops.

00:59:15.000 Most of them are at large churches across the country, but we have before every single stop, we have a pastor round table.

00:59:21.000 And we'll have sometimes 100 pastors that will come together in support of this.

00:59:25.000 So, this is really not just one local church in a community.

00:59:28.000 It's representing a lot of churches in that community that are standing with us and really supporting this event.

00:59:33.000 So, they've been absolutely incredible.

00:59:34.000 How many?

00:59:35.000 So, when Charlie was killed, we had about 4,000 church partnerships.

00:59:40.000 What are we at now?

00:59:41.000 About 12,000, roughly.

00:59:42.000 So, it is, gosh, 3x growth.

00:59:46.000 When I came in in July, it'll be two years, we had 3,200 church relationships.

00:59:52.000 So, we have 4x'd virtually in that time period since I've been here.

00:59:56.000 It's the honor of my life serving these pastors.

00:59:59.000 They're incredible.

01:00:00.000 These guys are on the front lines, changing culture.

01:00:02.000 I truly believe that everything flows downstream from theology.

01:00:05.000 You know, it's not even just culture.

01:00:08.000 We have to start with what do we think about God?

01:00:10.000 What do we think about ourselves and God?

01:00:11.000 If we can solve those two things, all this other stuff's going to be real easy.

01:00:15.000 Yeah, amen.

01:00:15.000 I mean, you know, it's interesting.

01:00:17.000 They like to call us Christian nationalists and all this stuff.

01:00:20.000 It's a pejorative, it's a smear that's used as a weapon against Christians that are.

01:00:25.000 Statesmen that care about the direction of this country, just like, oh, I don't know, our founding fathers.

01:00:29.000 But it was interesting.

01:00:30.000 Something I learned, Lucas, is that you've heard of the Black Robe Regiment.

01:00:34.000 Charlie used to love bringing up the Black Robe Regiment.

01:00:37.000 And you know who invented that term?

01:00:40.000 British loyalists to smear the patriotic preachers of America.

01:00:46.000 And so this is nothing new that when the opposition forces want to smear you and marginalize you and make you feel little, make you want to shut up, stop being so loud, they use pejoratives to paint you as a villain.

01:01:03.000 But what ended up happening, interestingly, is the Black Road Regiment is something that we remember with pride and honor that it was our Christian faith as a wellspring that bubbled up to our.

01:01:13.000 Our revolutionary ends, right?

01:01:16.000 So I just think it's a beautiful heritage that we all have as Americans and as Christians.

01:01:22.000 I want to ask you about a couple other things here, Lucas, because you are a pastor, you're a man of faith, you know your scripture.

01:01:28.000 And there's two things I think that are worth discussing here and now.

01:01:32.000 And I think people deserve some clarity.

01:01:34.000 One is we've heard recently that Muslims actually revere Jesus and they love Jesus.

01:01:43.000 What are your thoughts when you hear people saying that?

01:01:45.000 Yeah, so I think there's two ways to look at this, right?

01:01:48.000 So there is what the Quran teaches, and then there's what individual Muslims hold to.

01:01:53.000 There are Muslims who are not necessarily Islamicists that have been deceived by the teachings of Islam, and they truly believe that they are revering Jesus.

01:02:06.000 And to a degree, you could make a case that they view him as sinless, they view him as a prophet, they honor him in that way.

01:02:12.000 But I would state that if we do not acknowledge Christ's divinity and his deity, then we're not truly revering him.

01:02:20.000 In the way in which he deserves, right?

01:02:22.000 So it could be a form of adoration, certainly.

01:02:25.000 But if they're denying his divinity, then that's not what Jesus deserves.

01:02:34.000 And so this is actually sort of a false sense of admiration for him as a prophet.

01:02:40.000 So if I was to deal with that.

01:02:41.000 Yeah, specifically, yeah, as you say, they can say he performed miracles, but why do we worship Jesus and not just say that he is similar to Moses or Elijah?

01:02:53.000 Or anyone else, and it's specifically that he's the son of God that he died on the cross for your sins and then was raised from the dead.

01:03:00.000 And they deny all of those things, is my understanding, right?

01:03:03.000 So, if they would deny that Jesus was even crucified, right?

01:03:07.000 And so, that is, and there's a little bit of a debate within Islam over that, but most Muslims would hold that Jesus was not even crucified.

01:03:14.000 Um, and so, you know, of course, if they and they don't have an idea of blood sacrifice, so they don't believe that, uh, they think salvation is through submission plus good works.

01:03:24.000 Rather than there is a chasm between God and man, and that because of sin, and it required a sacrifice in order to redeem us, that's a foreign concept to Islam. 0.91

01:03:34.000 So we have to deconstruct the Quran and I think show the falsity of the book itself if I think we actually want to win Muslims over for this. 0.84

01:03:44.000 But to just blanketly say that they're revering Christ the same way or better than Christians are without acknowledging his deity and without acknowledging either the crucifixion or the resurrection, pretty hard to make that claim. 0.91

01:03:55.000 So I'm going to give you my take on it, and you tell me if I'm off base here. 0.89

01:03:59.000 If the Muslims are revering and even loving a Jesus that is not the Jesus of scripture, namely the Son of God, then they are revering a counterfeit Jesus. 0.97

01:04:11.000 It is not even Jesus that they are revering. 0.99

01:04:15.000 They are revering a historical figure, perhaps, but they have bastardized his identity.

01:04:21.000 So therefore, it's not even the real Jesus.

01:04:23.000 Yeah, I would say there's absolute truth in that. 0.98

01:04:25.000 I mean, you even see in the idea of Islam that when they talk about, you know, in kind of the final day that Jesus will come back as a servant to Allah. 0.96

01:04:33.000 In carrying out part of the judgment against this earth. 0.93

01:04:38.000 And so they see it's almost like a flip over of the book of Revelation, this bizarro world.

01:04:44.000 And you could make a case that the way in which they see Jesus is very similar to what the Bible would teach about the Antichrist.

01:04:51.000 And so this concept of this other Jesus, this false gospel, this framework, I think that we have to push on that.

01:05:00.000 We have to expose that more. 0.99

01:05:01.000 I mean, this is the nature of the Quran.

01:05:04.000 What we know about Muhammad, there's some debate if he was even a real person. 0.81

01:05:07.000 I give the benefit of the doubt that he was, but we know that he was illiterate if he was a real person. 0.90

01:05:13.000 And so, at best, he sort of Frankensteined the scriptures and the ideas of Jesus. 0.76

01:05:18.000 Most likely, he didn't even have the scriptures themselves when he was writing the Quran.

01:05:24.000 He had probably some Christian Gnostic texts, and that's most of the stories you see from the Quran are actually that have anything to do with the New Testament are pulled out of Gnostic texts.

01:05:34.000 It's almost sort of a complete plagiarization of those things.

01:05:37.000 So This is a so called prophet that didn't actually have the scriptures, knew nothing really about the true historical Jesus, had heard certain things, framed them together and cut them together in the Quran, and you have this amalgamation of ideas.

01:05:52.000 It is not the Jesus of the New Testament, it's not the Jesus of the scriptures.

01:05:56.000 Yeah, I really encourage people, it's a worthy exercise.

01:05:59.000 Go read the first lengthy section of the Quran.

01:06:03.000 I'm forgetting the name, surah or whatever it is.

01:06:06.000 It's called The Cow, and it is literally called The Cow.

01:06:09.000 Just read it, and you'll raise an eyebrow because it is like reading.

01:06:12.000 As you say, a plagiarism or like a fanfic almost of the Bible.

01:06:16.000 It's all about, it jumps from Moses to different biblical figures.

01:06:20.000 And it clearly would make no sense unless you'd sort of heard about these things.

01:06:24.000 Lucas Miles, I want to talk about some of the recent kerfuffles with the Pope.

01:06:31.000 I believe that there is a concerted effort to divide Protestants and Catholics, evangelicals specifically, and Catholics.

01:06:40.000 And I haven't seen it like this in a while.

01:06:44.000 You know, and I think some of these comments by the Pope are being used to drive that wedge.

01:06:49.000 Some of the criticisms that I think are fair of the Pope's political statements are being used as, like, oh, you're disrespecting the Pope.

01:06:57.000 Where is the line?

01:06:58.000 You're an evangelical.

01:06:59.000 I'm evangelical.

01:07:01.000 Blake is a Catholic, so we're sort of well represented here.

01:07:04.000 Where's the line as evangelicals of how we should approach the Pope's comments?

01:07:08.000 We want to be respectful, but we also think that there's fair commentary and critiques.

01:07:12.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:07:13.000 So, you know, as you mentioned, I am an evangelical.

01:07:16.000 I do pastor in a very.

01:07:18.000 Catholic city in South Bend, Indiana.

01:07:20.000 It goes like the Vatican, Boston, and then South Bend, I think, in terms of probably Catholic population density.

01:07:28.000 When we look at this, I do think that conversations on this are fair game.

01:07:33.000 People have said, well, I don't want a political pope.

01:07:36.000 Well, I do if that politic is based upon a biblical worldview.

01:07:40.000 Even though I'm not Catholic, in the same way I'm not a Southern Baptist, I want the Southern Baptist denomination to have a purity to it.

01:07:48.000 Based upon a biblical framework that they follow.

01:07:51.000 And I want them to honor, I don't want to see them get hijacked by leftists.

01:07:55.000 And we have two groups that I think, at least two groups, that are attempting to hijack the Catholic Church right now.

01:08:00.000 And that is this kind of liberation theological strand that's been there for a long time.

01:08:06.000 And you also have this integralist strand that's coming in and sort of trying to hijack it for political purposes as well.

01:08:13.000 And both are dangerous.

01:08:14.000 I think that the Pope should be held to a higher standard, just in the same way that any pastor is.

01:08:21.000 And I think that we have an expectation that his ideas and his commentaries are going to be based upon a biblical worldview, first and foremost.

01:08:28.000 I don't mind that they're necessarily Catholic as long as that is framed within and not violating scripture.

01:08:34.000 And I think what we've seen in some of the recent comments, I think it violates not only Catholic teaching, I think it also violates biblical teaching. 1.00

01:08:41.000 Yeah, I guess I've just expressed over and over the Pope is going to say what the Pope says, but it's a little annoying to me if the Pope is coming out, for example, and just saying, as he has, that Lebanon is a model that we should look towards for how to organize society, both because I don't see anything specifically biblical in that point of view, and also Lebanon is terrible. 1.00

01:09:05.000 Lebanon is not a great country.

01:09:07.000 It's a country a lot of people have fled because it's persistently in civil war.

01:09:11.000 It's a country that. 0.80

01:09:13.000 It's not, you know, it's notably not a democracy in any serious way because you have all these special rules where different offices need to be held by different religions.

01:09:21.000 Otherwise, the civil war reignites again. 0.67

01:09:23.000 You're literally not allowed to speak with an Israeli because that's also caused drama there. 0.94

01:09:28.000 It's one problem after another. 0.77

01:09:30.000 And okay, the Pope can have opinions like anyone else, but he does have to be careful when he says things because he's in an office that's 2,000 years old and has a lot of moral weight to it.

01:09:41.000 And if he's going to say, for example, peace is good, go for it.

01:09:44.000 If he's going to say, and he'll say things that, I agree with a lot.

01:09:48.000 He's condemned assisted suicide. 0.92

01:09:49.000 He's condemned abortion still.

01:09:51.000 But he has to be careful when he's saying things that are just purely, basically, a political point of view and they're not rooted in a view the church has had for thousands of years or something that's clear cut in the Bible.

01:10:03.000 And sometimes he does do that.

01:10:05.000 Yeah, I think that we saw this on the Iran situation.

01:10:08.000 We saw, I mean, kind of a total violation even of Catholic ideas.

01:10:12.000 Just war theory is Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.

01:10:16.000 And so there seemed to be no acknowledgement of any validity there when you're pushing this idea that.

01:10:21.000 You know, that anything other than peace is not a Christian option or an idea.

01:10:25.000 Part of just war theory is that war has to be a last resort.

01:10:29.000 And when you see negotiations, and look, we can talk about individual war and whether or not it fits into just war theory, but just keeping that on the table as Christians thinking about this, that we have ways in which we've dealt with this theologically to sort through conflicts, to sort through the just sort of the art of nation building and what that looks like, and how do we navigate that from a Christian standpoint.

01:10:53.000 And I do.

01:10:54.000 I have a higher level of expectation.

01:10:56.000 I think the Pope would benefit from coming to a TPSA Faith Pastors Conference, and he's welcome anytime.

01:11:00.000 I'm just going to put that out there.

01:11:02.000 Well said.

01:11:02.000 There it is.

01:11:03.000 Full circle there, Lucas.

01:11:04.000 Well done.

01:11:05.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, here's the thing.

01:11:06.000 My heart is for an ecumenical stance within Christians, both Catholic and Protestant within the United States, that we stay united in at least our politics.

01:11:16.000 Blake is right.

01:11:17.000 We have significant theological differences.

01:11:19.000 Sometimes those can be vexing, sometimes those can cause a little bit of strain, but we have to see the big picture.

01:11:25.000 I will never believe. 0.87

01:11:27.000 That my differences with Catholics about issues of theology outweigh my issues with Islam, for example. 0.61

01:11:36.000 So I will take partnership with the Catholics eight days out of the week over the alternative. 0.83

01:11:43.000 So, yes, there are theological differences, but we need to stick together and we need to stay united, especially politically.

01:11:50.000 When we think about the pro life cause, when we think about the direction of our country or school boards or transing our kids, there is so much more that brings us together than what separates us.

01:12:00.000 And I know that Charlie felt the same.

01:12:02.000 I was born into a Catholic family.

01:12:04.000 We sort of were very poor Catholics.

01:12:07.000 So I ended up becoming a Christian in college in the Protestant evangelical tradition.

01:12:11.000 But I love Catholics.

01:12:12.000 And Father Chuck from my high school was still in touch. 0.96

01:12:16.000 So, anyways, my hope and my prayer for the American church is that we remain united against common, more existential forces that we need to defeat.

01:12:26.000 Lucas, one more time Prestonwood, give us the deets.

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01:12:49.000 Well done, Lucas.

01:12:50.000 We'll see you again soon.

01:12:51.000 Good job.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 21, 2026

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