The Charlie Kirk Show - January 23, 2024


Are They Planning to Kill Trump?


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Dr. Keith Rose joins the program. Are they going to try to kill Trump? Disease X? We talk about what could go wrong in 2024 and we try our best to war game it. Dr. Keith is a counter-intelligent expert and hosted the scalpel podcast, The Scalpel. Dr. Rose has a tendency to be right.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Dr. Keith Rose joins the program.
00:00:03.000 Are they going to try to kill Trump? 0.85
00:00:04.000 Disease X.
00:00:05.000 We talk about what could go wrong in 2024, and we try our best to war game it.
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00:01:32.000 Real special guest here, a dear friend of mine, a mentor.
00:01:35.000 He's just amazing.
00:01:36.000 He's a counterintelligent expert and hosted the scalpel podcast, Dr. Keith Rose.
00:01:42.000 And I want to brag on Dr. Rose.
00:01:44.000 I'm not going to reveal any confidential conversations, but on three separate occasions, Dr. Rose has texted me something and I say, really?
00:01:53.000 And a week later, it comes true.
00:01:54.000 I'll never forget, a month out from COVID, he said, Charlie, there's some sort of weird pneumonia.
00:02:00.000 It might change the world.
00:02:01.000 And I was like, yeah, okay.
00:02:03.000 He has a tendency to be right.
00:02:05.000 Dr. Rose, thank you for joining the program.
00:02:07.000 I want to get right into it and be really efficient with our time.
00:02:10.000 The consensus is that Trump is going to win.
00:02:12.000 Trump is going to win.
00:02:13.000 From a counterintelligent expert standpoint, what are the threats on the horizon against Donald Trump, the MAGA movement, and the election of 2024?
00:02:23.000 Charlie, you could put those threats in three buckets.
00:02:26.000 First, I agree with you.
00:02:27.000 I think Trump is not only the nominee, but he is the inevitable winner if we have an election.
00:02:36.000 Because I live in a predominantly Democrat district, and I don't know anyone that's voting for President Biden.
00:02:42.000 No one.
00:02:43.000 And I think that the bigger threats out there are the threats that people aren't thinking about.
00:02:48.000 My biggest concern, and this may sound tinful of hat, is that someone's going to try to take out President Trump physically.
00:02:56.000 And we cover him with prayer.
00:02:59.000 We don't say that lightly because he was raised up for this time, I believe.
00:03:06.000 And so, what I think is out there is a lot of people are recognizing.
00:03:10.000 You touched on this on your show about Jamie Dimon and how he's basically a political weather vein.
00:03:15.000 He's going to go where the wind's blowing the strongest.
00:03:18.000 I think it's inevitable President Trump's going to not only be the nominee, but it's going to be elected.
00:03:24.000 The biggest challenges I think are to his safety and also to just having elections.
00:03:30.000 I think that's critical.
00:03:31.000 I think the Democrats are going to, if they can't get the man, then they're going to get the process.
00:03:39.000 But I don't think they can cheat their way to success this time because my understanding is Biden only won by what 45,000, 55,000 votes total.
00:03:49.000 And 42,000.
00:03:51.000 And I just know the turning point ground game alone is in full effect and it's going to change that.
00:03:57.000 So my bigger concern is his safety.
00:03:59.000 And I have several reasons to believe that.
00:04:01.000 And believe it or not, it may not come from within the United States.
00:04:06.000 What does that look like, Keith?
00:04:08.000 Get specific if you can.
00:04:09.000 And then how do we preempt or protect ourselves from such move?
00:04:14.000 Well, Charlie, the U.S. has a, or they did, they used to have a team called a Red Cell team.
00:04:19.000 And that team was put together and designed to war game or create scenarios that could happen.
00:04:26.000 Not necessarily would, but the possibility was there.
00:04:29.000 So if I was sitting on a red cell team and understand what I do, back in 2011, I was in Afghanistan when we lost a stealth drone.
00:04:38.000 It was a CIA stealth drone that went down in Iran.
00:04:42.000 Now, I can tell you we could have gotten it back because we requested permission to go get it back and were denied by that administration.
00:04:49.000 So that drone was high-end technology.
00:04:53.000 It went down in Iran.
00:04:54.000 And the reason that's important is because from reports, we understand that two of those drones are now operating in Ukraine, that China has reversed that technology or Iran has.
00:05:05.000 I'm sorry, Iran has reversed that technology.
00:05:08.000 Now, my understanding also from reports is that they're going to have over 40 of those drones in 2024 built.
00:05:16.000 And the reason that's important is these stealth drones, stealth being the key word, can avoid radar.
00:05:22.000 They have a 1,500 nautical mile range, and Iran has already shown they can make this drone, reverse engineer it. 0.95
00:05:31.000 Iran has an active arms trading agreement currently with Bolivia.
00:05:38.000 It's known, it's blessed by the UN, and Iran and Bolivia trade arms.
00:05:43.000 Bolivia can ship arms to Cuba.
00:05:47.000 They do all the time.
00:05:48.000 You can put anything in a container and ship it.
00:05:51.000 And that traffic is common.
00:05:53.000 So you could make a red cell case that a drone that can avoid radar, has an extended range, can come from Iran to Bolivia, Bolivia to Cuba, and the Cuban airfield to Mar-a-Lago is 220 nautical miles.
00:06:08.000 And I'm not saying that's going to happen, but if something like that happened, you would not only have a disaster in our republic, but you would also have the ability to shift the blame to whatever country you decided you wanted to fight next.
00:06:23.000 So, so, Keith, one of the things that you mentioned is the suspension or the changing of an election.
00:06:30.000 Does that look like this disease X that they are teasing?
00:06:33.000 And what can we as patriots possibly do to counter this historic historic intervention that they're planning?
00:06:43.000 Because if the election goes as it's planned, I can't imagine it's going to end well for them.
00:06:49.000 No, it's not.
00:06:50.000 And also, this is a terminal event for the left or the progressive left because they have been breaking the law.
00:06:56.000 They have done things that they can't afford to be exposed.
00:06:59.000 So, it's going to, it could be a disease X. Although my understanding right now is the people in charge really think that the American people aren't going to buy in to the mass lockdowns again.
00:07:11.000 Or it could be Group X.
00:07:13.000 We know that there are hundreds of thousands of fighting-age males that have come across our border.
00:07:19.000 We don't know where they are.
00:07:21.000 And if you were to have an outbreak of multiple terrorist cells or multiple areas of unrest, the Congress has already passed certain laws in place that the president could suspend elections, declare martial law.
00:07:38.000 And while it seems far-fetched, if that happened, it would be a problem.
00:07:44.000 So, the way to prevent that is like you break any color revolution. 0.70
00:07:48.000 You need to start talking about it.
00:07:49.000 People need to understand, okay, if X happens, this is what we're going to do.
00:07:54.000 And more importantly, we have to decide now what we're not going to do.
00:07:58.000 We're not going to lock down.
00:08:00.000 We're not going to suspend elections.
00:08:02.000 And this is where government or the separation of states and the federalism comes into play.
00:08:08.000 And we should really be pressuring our local and state governments in the event that one of these things happen that we prepare for.
00:08:15.000 When you see Davos, especially Alexander Soros, act as if a Trump presidency is inevitable, how do you hear that as a counterintelligence expert, Dr. Rose?
00:08:25.000 Do you think he's being sincere?
00:08:27.000 Is this him just complaining publicly?
00:08:30.000 Is this an undisciplined musing of a billionaire heir who now has $20 billion?
00:08:35.000 Or is this part of his plan?
00:08:38.000 I don't know.
00:08:39.000 I don't know Alexander Soros very well as far as his profile, but anything these globalists are doing, they do with a plan.
00:08:48.000 They are probably trying to play to President Trump's confidence right now.
00:08:53.000 I'm sure there's some that want to position themselves or get people in his organization.
00:08:59.000 But I don't trust anything that comes out of the mouth of people that tell us, you know, you're not going to have anything and you're going to be happy about it.
00:09:07.000 They have never done any, the Bible tells you to look at people based on their fruit.
00:09:11.000 And the people that are now saying there's an inevitable Trump presidency have never done anything to produce the positive fruit in this nation.
00:09:19.000 They've tried to destroy it.
00:09:22.000 And we have to look past what they're saying to what they're doing.
00:09:27.000 How are they shifting?
00:09:29.000 Are they saying one thing and doing another?
00:09:31.000 So it's real important that we look at their actions.
00:09:33.000 We look at the actions of the multiple NGOs the Soros has run and their the people that they work with and then watch the picture come together.
00:09:42.000 Shows like yours that get the right the right information out there repeatedly. 0.63
00:09:47.000 You, War Room, Dan Bongino, all the guys in the alternative media.
00:09:52.000 It's real important that we keep shedding light on the situation at present because as my boss used to say, light is the best disinfectant to a bad situation.
00:10:00.000 Dr. Rose, talk about your podcast really quick.
00:10:03.000 It's the scalpel of Dr. Keith Rose.
00:10:05.000 It's basically my answer to therapy.
00:10:08.000 And we put out one a week.
00:10:10.000 It's national and evidently international.
00:10:13.000 I got called by a mutual friend of ours the other day.
00:10:16.000 I thought he was calling to ask me some big national security question.
00:10:18.000 It's just to tell me that his Pilates trainer actually listened to it.
00:10:22.000 So we talk about a lot of things you talk about.
00:10:24.000 I try to go more from a biblical worldview and looking at what the Bible says about a lot of things, because right now, the key to saving our nation is for the remnant church to step up and say something.
00:10:37.000 We have 70 million evangelicals.
00:10:39.000 And if we start voting our values, this won't be an issue this election.
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00:11:38.000 Dr. Rose, I want to ask you about the Trump cabinet or people around the president.
00:11:44.000 And are you fearful that the serpents and the snakes are starting to get close to Trump now that there is this inevitability, obviously, of him as being the nominee, but even the president?
00:11:56.000 What is your take on that?
00:11:58.000 Well, as you know, I was with a small group that worked to help President Trump without his knowledge back when during his first term.
00:12:06.000 And we went to D.C.
00:12:07.000 I was there for three weeks.
00:12:09.000 I was actually in the West Wing.
00:12:11.000 And a lot of the people I met with and interviewed, I could tell were actively working against the president that were in his administration.
00:12:19.000 I not only saw it in D.C., but when we were doing work in Guatemala, we saw. the State Department, which was under President Trump's administration, actively advertising and putting together migrant caravans to come north.
00:12:35.000 Now, obviously, President Trump didn't know about that.
00:12:38.000 So he has to get a handle, not only on his cabinet and his inner circle, but on the State Department and the massive size of the government as it is, because there's too many areas.
00:12:50.000 We call them the mattress mice can work against you.
00:12:53.000 And as far as in his own office, President Reagan came in under similar situations after President Carter.
00:13:00.000 And my boss told me, who was the deputy director of operations at the agency at the time, told me how they managed it.
00:13:08.000 And they put together a group of people called the Kitchen Cabinet.
00:13:11.000 These were people that were outside government, but would meet with the president.
00:13:15.000 They had a lot of experience inside different administrations.
00:13:19.000 And they gave the president the questions to ask of the administration and of his people.
00:13:24.000 Now, the mattress mice won't help you, but they can't lie to you.
00:13:29.000 And a lot of times he just needs to know the right questions to ask.
00:13:33.000 Now, I think President Trump's brilliant.
00:13:35.000 I think he understands the mistakes that were made the first time.
00:13:38.000 And it wasn't his fault.
00:13:39.000 He didn't know.
00:13:40.000 So he's coming back with experience this time.
00:13:43.000 And I think that's going to help him.
00:13:45.000 If there was one virtue that you think Donald Trump should look for in his vice president, one or two, just looking at if you could pick from the list of classical virtues, what would those be?
00:13:58.000 Humility.
00:13:59.000 And let me explain that.
00:14:01.000 When you're humble, the true definition biblically is stepping into your authority because you're going to lose something when you do that.
00:14:10.000 It's like when Jesus kicked the money changers out, was he humble?
00:14:13.000 Yes, he was stepping into his authority as the son of God.
00:14:17.000 So if you have a humble vice president, he's going to step into his authority as vice president and not protect himself, but protect the president and protect the nation.
00:14:28.000 And he's going to be bold.
00:14:30.000 And so humble people usually have, you have to have courage to be humble.
00:14:34.000 I think Dr. I think Ben Carson heard you talk about that.
00:14:36.000 Yeah, what do you think about that?
00:14:37.000 As someone who knows, well, my father's a friend of Dr. Carson.
00:14:41.000 He actually spoke at my father's church.
00:14:43.000 They spent a lot of time together.
00:14:44.000 And I got to meet and speak with him.
00:14:46.000 Dr. Carson is an extremely accomplished neurosurgeon, and he was very effective in his job.
00:14:54.000 Dr. Carson looks at a problem and solves a problem.
00:14:58.000 And I think that's what President Trump's looking for.
00:15:00.000 At the same time, the evangelical base has seen the fruit from Dr. Carson, and they have a lot of confidence in Dr. Carson.
00:15:09.000 There would be a Christian come home campaign that would be incredibly effective.
00:15:14.000 I'm telling you, Dr. Carson is one of the most, we could get turned off Christians that don't like Trump home to vote for Trump Carson.
00:15:22.000 I'm telling you.
00:15:23.000 I want to ask you here, and check out the Scalpel podcast.
00:15:25.000 On the whole horizon, and you're really in the weeds here.
00:15:28.000 What do you see that is giving you hope?
00:15:30.000 I'll tell you first what gives me hope.
00:15:32.000 Somebody asked me this question the other day. 0.97
00:15:33.000 I said, America has a lot of nonsense.
00:15:37.000 We still, we have some of the most impressive people on the planet. 0.81
00:15:42.000 There are some awesome people in this country.
00:15:44.000 And I can't say the same.
00:15:45.000 I don't know if Brazil and Argentina or Germany have the superstars that we have in this country.
00:15:51.000 Yeah, there is a lot of riffraff.
00:15:53.000 A lot of moral decay, but there is a small handful, dare I say, a remnant, of just superstars that I don't think we brag on enough.
00:16:02.000 Keith, what gives you hope in a time like this, Charlie?
00:16:06.000 What gives me hope is that it's gotten so bad that the people that are now stepping up are not names you would normally hear groups like you have.
00:16:16.000 What gives me hope is seeing someone your age that is bold as a lion.
00:16:19.000 That's speaking truth.
00:16:21.000 What gives me hope is seeing groups form like Citizens Defending Freedom, MOMS FOR America, grassroot groups that understand the successes and the failures of the TEA Party that look at this is what really gives me hope.
00:16:34.000 The people that are now contending for our nation recognize it's a generational fight.
00:16:40.000 This is not a one and done, but this we have to plant trees that will never sit in the shade of.
00:16:46.000 We have to start building a foundation.
00:16:49.000 I tell my the folks in my company, things don't go wrong.
00:16:52.000 They start wrong and we started wrong a few uh, several decades ago, so we're going to have to fix that.
00:16:59.000 What gives me hope is I see people gearing up for a generational fight and I see that the truth has now become even a commodity, kind of like Gold.
00:17:08.000 People want truth.
00:17:09.000 I think that's where president Trump's strength is.
00:17:12.000 He has the ability and and doing it in a very funny way and satirical to come out and speak truth, and I pray that the Evangelicals will see that I we crypted him and you know this.
00:17:23.000 Before anyone ever talked about it.
00:17:25.000 We called him Cyrus, the flawed king that brought the Israelites back. 1.00
00:17:29.000 But I do believe president Trump knows the lord.
00:17:32.000 I do believe, president Trump, this is the one qualification that you have to have as a president.
00:17:38.000 He has to love this country and there is, without a question that man loves his country.
00:17:43.000 He has more energy than guys I know that are in their 20s and he's.
00:17:48.000 He's also seen what didn't work and that's why I think everyone's afraid of him, because he knows what wasn't done and why it wasn't done.
00:17:58.000 And for him to step back in the White House, we need to support him, we need to get good people around him and we need to cover him in prayer.
00:18:06.000 In closing here, dr Rose, do you think we're going to be running against Joe Biden, and what moves or countermoves can we anticipate from the Democrat establishment?
00:18:14.000 I think after the convention, Biden's going to resign and they're going to put Gavin Newsom in there.
00:18:19.000 I I don't think that's a question.
00:18:21.000 That's just my personal opinion.
00:18:22.000 I have some reasons to believe that, but I told you something similar to this a year ago in december.
00:18:29.000 That was the the talk amongst people.
00:18:32.000 And if you watch who are you not hearing anything about?
00:18:36.000 Gavin Newson?
00:18:37.000 See, it's important in intelligence not to look at what people are saying, but what they're not saying.
00:18:41.000 You're not hearing about all the disasters in California and, believe me, there are a lot of them.
00:18:46.000 Policy-wise.
00:18:47.000 You're not seeing those promoted on the news.
00:18:50.000 In fact, you're seeing just the opposite.
00:18:51.000 You're seeing every time San Francisco cleans up for a visiting dignitary.
00:18:55.000 You're seeing even shots in social media where people go, oh, it's not as bad as everyone says.
00:19:00.000 So I think that they're positioning Gavin Newsom to be and Gavin Newson is just a sock puppet like Trudeau is.
00:19:08.000 He doesn't have original thoughts.
00:19:10.000 He's very smooth.
00:19:12.000 He's very polished.
00:19:13.000 But we have had, except for President Trump, we've had decades of an emperor without any clothes.
00:19:22.000 And President Trump was not that person.
00:19:25.000 And the American people are starting to wake up and see their politicians are uncovered.
00:19:31.000 And so I think that not only is it good that you asked me why people are i'm encouraged i think people are recognizing that it's not just the top politicians but it's the bloated government and it has to be dealt with and it will be dealt with dr rose excellent thank you so much thank you charlie thanks so much for listening everybody email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and god bless For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.