The Charlie Kirk Show - December 13, 2024


Blow Up The Food Pyramid: Charlie at the University of Wisconsin-Madison


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On this episode of The CharlieKirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by President Donald Trump Jr. and former Vice President Joe Biden to discuss the importance of standing up to the two-party system and the need for ranked choice voting.

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00:02:57.000 Hello Charlie.
00:02:58.000 Can you give him a little bit more space?
00:03:00.000 Thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:03:01.000 I'd like to ask you, how do you feel about replacing the Electoral College with ranked choice voting?
00:03:08.000 I'm not a fan of ranked choice voting at all.
00:03:10.000 Do you want to explain what ranked choice voting is?
00:03:13.000 Yeah, so like RFK, for example, he dropped out of the race.
00:03:19.000 I thought he was a pretty good candidate.
00:03:20.000 He had all good policies, but under the two-party system that we have, he is suppressed.
00:03:27.000 Victoria College has a lot of flaws.
00:03:30.000 Territories, they can't vote. 0.99
00:03:32.000 Conservatives in big blue states are suppressed.
00:03:37.000 They're ignored because of the winner-takes-all system.
00:03:41.000 And the distortion of the votes, like Wyoming is four times the voting power of California.
00:03:48.000 I think there's a lot of flaws, and ranked choice voting would make our votes more specified.
00:03:54.000 So first, you were a RFK fan.
00:03:54.000 Got it.
00:03:56.000 Are you voting for Trump now?
00:03:58.000 I don't want to say.
00:03:59.000 Okay.
00:04:00.000 I'll put you down as a probably.
00:04:02.000 But no, you're talking about two different things.
00:04:03.000 The electoral college is different than rank choice.
00:04:06.000 Rank choice voting is a way of saying that basically the first loser ends up advancing as the candidate, right?
00:04:12.000 So are you in favor of a popular vote for president?
00:04:16.000 I thought the rank choice voting meant like you go to vote, your favorite candidate is number one.
00:04:22.000 Correct, yeah.
00:04:24.000 I think that's good because people could give their overall thoughts and people would be more researched about their opinions.
00:04:30.000 Yeah, I mean, where we've seen ranked choice voting employed is usually by liberals and Democrats in very, very red states, and they end up basically eliminating the Republican Party.
00:04:39.000 That's a little bit more nuanced, but as far as the Electoral College goes, We're good to go.
00:05:02.000 So the beauty of the Electoral College is that it recognizes that America's system is different than Europe.
00:05:07.000 It's different than most of the world.
00:05:09.000 We are states first, and then we are a national project, and therefore the states need to have some form of representation in how we tabulate our votes.
00:05:18.000 And the beauty of the Electoral College is that the swing states, think of how diverse these states are.
00:05:23.000 Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.
00:05:28.000 If it was a pure popular vote, which I know you're not advocating for, it would all be about Seattle, Chicago, San Francisco, LA, New York.
00:05:35.000 But the top 10 cities is around 10% of the total population.
00:05:40.000 That would not be nearly enough to win the election.
00:05:43.000 Even the top 50 cities wouldn't get you close enough to win the election.
00:05:47.000 Well, so yes and no.
00:05:48.000 I mean, the population of the metroplex areas are more than half the American population.
00:05:54.000 So you're right.
00:05:55.000 Anyone from Chicago?
00:05:56.000 I'm from Chicago.
00:05:57.000 I'm sure we got a lot of Chicagoans there, right?
00:05:58.000 So we all know the difference between Chicago and Chicagoland, right?
00:06:02.000 So, Chicagoland is nearly, I think, 7 or 8 million people, where Chicago is 3 million people.
00:06:08.000 But I think you can agree, at least we can agree, the beauty of the Electoral College, and it does have some flaws.
00:06:14.000 The beauty, though, is that it requires candidates to have to go to many different parts of the country and to earn support, not just go to the coastal cities.
00:06:22.000 And the way it works in a lot of European elections...
00:06:25.000 In the United Kingdom or in French elections, the United Kingdom is not a good example because they have a parliamentary system, but like France, they just run up the score in Paris and they say, you know, forget it, you know, to the rules.
00:06:34.000 I think it's a good thing that Wisconsin farmers have a say in this election.
00:06:38.000 It gives Wisconsin a seat at the table. 0.93
00:06:40.000 So thank you, man.
00:06:41.000 Appreciate it.
00:06:42.000 Absolutely.
00:06:42.000 Thank you.
00:06:43.000 Thank you.
00:06:43.000 Next question.
00:06:44.000 Yes.
00:06:45.000 I hope you guys can hear me.
00:06:46.000 I'm doing the best we can.
00:06:47.000 For a Republican Party that prides itself on personal responsibility, protecting the sentient, unborn, and free markets, I was curious your thoughts on animal rights.
00:06:57.000 Just because the government subsidizes animal agriculture far more than fruits and vegetables and plant foods, which inhibits the free market and ends up slaughtering lots of animals.
00:07:07.000 And animals are also sentient beings like the unborn.
00:07:10.000 So I was curious your thoughts on all of that.
00:07:12.000 Yeah, so the question is first, is an animal a human?
00:07:16.000 No.
00:07:16.000 Okay, so does it therefore have rights?
00:07:19.000 I mean, we already have rights for animals, for dogs, cats, and even for some farm animals.
00:07:23.000 No, of course, but do you get First Amendment protections for your dog?
00:07:25.000 Can your dog own a firearm, right?
00:07:27.000 No.
00:07:27.000 No, of course not.
00:07:28.000 So it's not the same thing as a human.
00:07:31.000 Now, as a Christian, we're also not allowed to torture or to slaughter.
00:07:36.000 That's in the Noahic Covenant and repeatedly out the scriptures.
00:07:38.000 We must be humane in our treatment of animals.
00:07:41.000 But as far...
00:07:42.000 I don't know where you're coming at from this perspective, but some people would say that animals and humans are on the same moral plane.
00:07:48.000 I don't think that's what you're saying, right?
00:07:51.000 However, there is a push, though, to say that we should no longer eat meat because it's bad for the life of animals.
00:07:59.000 We should do what's best for human beings, first and foremost.
00:08:02.000 And it's good for human beings to eat meat.
00:08:04.000 It's good for human beings to be able to eat animals.
00:08:06.000 It's good for human beings to not just eat like this synthetic fake meat that Bill Gates wants to make all day long.
00:08:12.000 And so, yeah, where do I stand on animal rights?
00:08:15.000 I mean, I don't think any living being should be tortured or should be cruelly treated.
00:08:20.000 At the same time, we should always do what's best for human beings and human beings first.
00:08:24.000 So, for example, when there's an environmental question, the question should first be, what is best for the human species, not what's best for, you know, the trees or for the snake.
00:08:34.000 Those things are important, but it's more important for humans.
00:08:37.000 Does that answer your question?
00:08:38.000 In part is okay if I have a little follow-up.
00:08:40.000 I mean, in terms of what rights we give to animals, of course we wouldn't give animals the right to drive a car or vote because it's not relevant to them.
00:08:46.000 But the rights that would be relevant to them are basic negative rights, the right not to be mistreated or killed.
00:08:50.000 And we already have that for cats and dogs and even cruelty laws on farm animals.
00:08:54.000 Well, we're allowed to kill dogs.
00:08:56.000 That's not true.
00:08:56.000 We have kill shelters for dogs, right?
00:08:58.000 We also kill dogs that bite their owners and dogs with rabies, right?
00:09:02.000 So if a human being gets rabies, what do we do?
00:09:05.000 We treat the human.
00:09:06.000 If a dog gets rabies...
00:09:08.000 Unless there's like a miraculous treatment, which there usually isn't, right?
00:09:11.000 So you're right.
00:09:12.000 The negative rights, we do have rights to be able to, for better or for worse, because we do not treat dogs and cats as the same moral level because we as human beings have a soul.
00:09:22.000 We have reason.
00:09:23.000 We have the ability to make sense of the natural world.
00:09:25.000 Dogs do not, right?
00:09:27.000 Dogs only have senses.
00:09:29.000 They do not have reason.
00:09:30.000 And so, for example, a dog cannot tell that it's a dog.
00:09:33.000 Now, there's some disagreement about that, but we as human beings can make sense of the natural world.
00:09:38.000 We are the speaking beings, to say differently.
00:09:40.000 But no animal should be mistreated, but to say that animals are not allowed to be killed would be there for an argument against meat, correct?
00:09:48.000 Right, yeah.
00:09:49.000 And no last thought, I'm arguing against...
00:09:51.000 Right, that's very unpopular probably at, you know, UW-Madison to get rid of bacon, right?
00:09:56.000 So...
00:09:57.000 The reason I'm bringing this up ultimately is these animals that we kill on factory farms.
00:09:57.000 I'm just guessing.
00:10:05.000 We kill them pigs in gas chambers. 0.93
00:10:07.000 We ground up male chicks alive for the egg industry because only the female hens lay eggs. 0.98
00:10:12.000 All these different things is because we view animals on not having enough rights to actually protect their livelihood.
00:10:19.000 I'm making an argument that we shouldn't obviously give animals rights that aren't relevant to them.
00:10:23.000 For sure.
00:10:24.000 Yeah.
00:10:24.000 So if you were a dictator, would you say we cannot kill pigs?
00:10:30.000 No, I think that should be left up to the free market.
00:10:32.000 The reason I'm concerned about it is the government is spending billions of dollars.
00:10:36.000 Yeah, I think factory farming has a lot of problems.
00:10:39.000 More because of the health of the human that eats the meat.
00:10:41.000 Less than about the animal.
00:10:43.000 Because it's just not as good for the human.
00:10:46.000 Real quick, do you think ultimately that...
00:10:49.000 A Republican Party that is pro-free market should be propping up billions of dollars towards subsidies for animal agriculture.
00:10:55.000 I'm not a huge subsidy fan of things that make people fat and unhealthy.
00:10:58.000 So would you, if you were in a voting position either, if you were an elected leader, would you vote against, and should Republicans vote against that?
00:11:03.000 I'm not in a voting position.
00:11:05.000 Yeah, I would advocate against most of our current agricultural subsidies, for sure.
00:11:10.000 Okay.
00:11:10.000 Thank you.
00:11:10.000 Thank you.
00:11:11.000 All right.
00:11:11.000 Yes, who wants to go next?
00:11:13.000 Disagreements are most welcome.
00:11:15.000 I'm not here to disagree on anything, but I just want to hear your opinions on what's the best solution in the long term between Israel and Palestine.
00:11:15.000 Hi.
00:11:26.000 That's a great question.
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00:11:31.000 There you go.
00:11:31.000 All right.
00:11:32.000 All right.
00:11:33.000 We'll get there in a sec.
00:11:34.000 Will you wear the hat?
00:11:36.000 By the way.
00:11:38.000 Huh?
00:11:39.000 All right.
00:11:40.000 See, look at that.
00:11:40.000 There you go.
00:11:42.000 Look how much Trump support we have here on campus, everybody.
00:11:44.000 Isn't that great?
00:11:45.000 All right, you definitely get one.
00:11:47.000 All right, we'll get them in a sec.
00:11:49.000 All right, the long-term solution.
00:11:52.000 Very difficult.
00:11:53.000 I am pro-Israel, and I am resolutely pro-Israel, and I think we need to be very clear about that.
00:11:59.000 And if you disagree, you guys can come to the mic at any time with that, by the way.
00:12:02.000 There probably is not a long-term solution in the way that we look at it, because you have one side that does not believe the other side should exist.
00:12:11.000 And if you do not recognize that the Jewish people deserve a homeland and deserve a place to be able to exist and to build out their culture, then it's hard to coexist.
00:12:23.000 Probably the best solution Is what is called a three-state solution.
00:12:27.000 But understand, the Palestinian Authority, they have elections.
00:12:30.000 They receive billions of dollars in foreign aid.
00:12:32.000 The Palestinian Authority, they do have self-government and governance over themselves.
00:12:36.000 And that has not been enough.
00:12:37.000 And they decided to launch a war against Israel on October 7th.
00:12:40.000 And it hasn't been going very well for them.
00:12:42.000 And obviously, it's a disaster.
00:12:44.000 A lot of people have died.
00:12:45.000 And that's not obviously good.
00:12:47.000 But yeah, the long-term solution, in my opinion, is first and foremost, you must come from the belief that Israel has a right to exist. 0.88
00:12:54.000 You don't have to like the Israeli government, but if you disagree with that, then there will not be a long-term solution.
00:13:00.000 Okay?
00:13:01.000 Do you have a thought?
00:13:03.000 Do you have compassion for the people living in Gaza? 1.00
00:13:07.000 Of course I do.
00:13:08.000 I have compassion for all people.
00:13:09.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:13:10.000 But I mean, understand it is a war that was started by the leadership class of Gaza and largely supported by the people of Gaza.
00:13:18.000 It's not an ideal situation, but the 1300 plus Jews that were massacred and murdered at the concerts and the kibbutzes and the nurseries, The babies that were, you know, terribly treated on that morning, that was the declaration of war.
00:13:32.000 And they'll say, oh no, we've been at war for the last 20 or 30 years.
00:13:36.000 That's a silly argument.
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00:14:47.000 Hi, I'm Ben.
00:14:48.000 You want a MAGA hat?
00:14:49.000 No, you have to earn it.
00:14:49.000 Sure.
00:14:51.000 So I wrote an article this summer where I was highly critical of Turning Point and said that it was doing harm to the conservative movement.
00:14:51.000 All right.
00:14:57.000 Never heard of Turning Point.
00:14:58.000 Oh, that was you.
00:14:59.000 Yeah.
00:14:59.000 Okay.
00:15:00.000 So my question is, what is Turning Point Action doing this time around to learn from the mistakes of 2022?
00:15:06.000 Well, first of all, we already registered more voters in the state of Arizona than we fell short of in Arizona.
00:15:09.000 By the way, thanks for reaching out to us before you published your article.
00:15:12.000 I'm being sarcastic.
00:15:14.000 Also, we have 500 full-time ballot chasers in the state of Arizona.
00:15:17.000 We have 150 full-time ballot chasers here in Wisconsin.
00:15:19.000 We just hosted JD Vance last evening.
00:15:21.000 We hosted President Trump last week when Bobby Kennedy endorsed President Trump in Arizona, which was huge.
00:15:27.000 And look, the number one thing is that we need to embrace early voting and we need to dominate in election months.
00:15:33.000 It's not enough just to tell everyone to vote on one day.
00:15:34.000 That is definitely a lesson we've learned from 2022, for sure.
00:15:37.000 So if, like, Carrie Lake loses again in Arizona, does Turning Point have any blame for that loss?
00:15:42.000 No, of course it doesn't have any blame.
00:15:44.000 No, I mean, first of all, we're not running the Republican Party.
00:15:47.000 We're an outside group that is one of the smaller outside groups.
00:15:50.000 And I noticed you did not write an article against any of the other major super PACs that raised four or five times the sums that we do.
00:15:55.000 But no, we don't have any blame.
00:15:57.000 Instead, the question is, will you give us credit if she wins?
00:16:00.000 Yes.
00:16:00.000 Okay, well, there you go.
00:16:01.000 So we'll talk in November.
00:16:02.000 All right, thank you.
00:16:03.000 All right, next question.
00:16:03.000 Thank you.
00:16:06.000 I might be boring you, but I don't really have a question.
00:16:06.000 Okay, I'm sorry.
00:16:09.000 I kind of do have a question.
00:16:10.000 Can I just get a picture with you?
00:16:12.000 Yes, you can get a picture.
00:16:13.000 I'm going to come and do a bunch of pictures in a sec.
00:16:14.000 Well, not in a sec, but let's do some questions.
00:16:16.000 Who disagrees or who wants to...
00:16:18.000 Yeah.
00:16:19.000 Can I have a MAGA hat?
00:16:20.000 Are you going to vote for Trump?
00:16:22.000 Are you registered to vote?
00:16:22.000 Yeah.
00:16:23.000 Yeah.
00:16:23.000 All right, you get a hat.
00:16:24.000 All right.
00:16:25.000 Yes.
00:16:27.000 So I'm super excited that you're on campus.
00:16:29.000 Thank you.
00:16:30.000 So I had a couple of questions because I'm from Boston, so it landed the liberals.
00:16:30.000 Yeah.
00:16:35.000 You know how it is.
00:16:36.000 Yeah.
00:16:36.000 And now you go to school here.
00:16:37.000 Yeah, I go to school here.
00:16:38.000 But you've got to re-register to vote here.
00:16:39.000 I just did.
00:16:40.000 There you go.
00:16:41.000 And I'm voting for Trump.
00:16:42.000 That's what I'm talking about.
00:16:42.000 All right.
00:16:43.000 You should too.
00:16:43.000 There we go.
00:16:44.000 Let's go!
00:16:44.000 You should too.
00:16:45.000 You should too.
00:16:47.000 Good catch.
00:16:48.000 I was wondering if you could educate us a little bit on Project 25 and how Kamala Harris is using that, even though Donald Trump has repeatedly denounced...
00:16:58.000 I haven't even read the entire document of Project 2025. She's making it seem as if this is the official policy position of President Trump's campaign.
00:16:58.000 Yeah, it's so funny.
00:17:05.000 His position is 20 things.
00:17:07.000 It's to drill baby drill, secure the border, deport the criminals that are here, no men and women's sports, very simple stuff.
00:17:07.000 It's very simple.
00:17:14.000 Project 2025 is...
00:17:16.000 A project that was done outside of the Trump campaign by the Heritage Foundation, not blessed or condoned.
00:17:21.000 But she's trying to make it seem as if this is like the official policy platform of the Trump campaign, because it sounds super scary.
00:17:26.000 It's an 800-page document.
00:17:28.000 I think people are wiser than that.
00:17:30.000 Instead, we should ask, what is Kamala Harris's agenda 2025?
00:17:33.000 What is her agenda?
00:17:34.000 She will not do an interview.
00:17:36.000 The only way she'll do an interview is sit down with a chaperone at CNN. Her first time she talked to reporters in 46 days.
00:17:42.000 Here, I'll take any question from anybody for three hours on straight.
00:17:44.000 I'm doing 22 of these campus visits across the country.
00:17:47.000 The woman who wants to be president of the United States is afraid to take questions from people that disagree with her. 1.00
00:17:52.000 That should disqualify her from being president of the United States. 1.00
00:17:55.000 Period.
00:17:56.000 Thank you very much.
00:17:58.000 God bless you.
00:18:00.000 What do you think about the implications of the Venezuelan elections?
00:18:04.000 Oh, well, the Venezuelan elections show that elections can be interfered with.
00:18:08.000 I'm more worried about what's happening in Brazil right now.
00:18:10.000 The fact that our State Department is allowing X or Twitter to be outlawed and just banned in the country of Brazil is unbelievable to me.
00:18:19.000 And so there's a lot of creepy stuff happening in the Southern Hemisphere.
00:18:22.000 Maduro obviously lost.
00:18:23.000 He's obviously an illegitimate leader.
00:18:25.000 And yeah, this shows that elections can be very flawed.
00:18:28.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:18:29.000 Thank you.
00:18:29.000 We're trying our best.
00:18:30.000 We have a big crowd here.
00:18:31.000 Yes.
00:18:33.000 So, I'd say as a...
00:18:35.000 Okay.
00:18:36.000 Go ahead.
00:18:37.000 So, as another Chicagoan...
00:18:38.000 What part?
00:18:39.000 I would say, like, a lot of voters are a little discouraged because...
00:18:43.000 Downtown.
00:18:44.000 So a lot of people would say their votes don't matter, not just in Chicago, but other predominantly blue states.
00:18:51.000 So what would you say to people that feel discouraged, people thinking their vote won't really matter?
00:18:56.000 Yeah, I mean, look, Trump's not going to win Illinois.
00:18:58.000 I wish he would.
00:18:59.000 First of all, Still vote.
00:19:01.000 Still work.
00:19:02.000 But if you live in Illinois, you're discouraged.
00:19:03.000 Get in the car, drive to Wisconsin, and go knock on doors to try to get Trump to win in Wisconsin.
00:19:07.000 I am registered to vote here, too.
00:19:09.000 That's the right answer.
00:19:10.000 So your vote's going to matter a lot more in Wisconsin than in Illinois.
00:19:14.000 For sure.
00:19:14.000 Don't be discouraged, but you're definitely outnumbered.
00:19:17.000 And try to win local elections before you try to win the big ones.
00:19:19.000 You want a hat?
00:19:20.000 Yes, please.
00:19:20.000 All right.
00:19:20.000 Only if you wear it on campus, all right?
00:19:22.000 There you go.
00:19:22.000 Yes.
00:19:23.000 Hi there, Charlie.
00:19:24.000 So, I have a big question.
00:19:26.000 Big.
00:19:27.000 I understand voting for Trump in terms of policy, problems with the left side of the spectrum, and because of the state of the economy or other political affairs, and I understand that there are fair claims to be made, that the media could be biased towards the left, but don't you agree that former President Trump's claims of fraud of the 2020 election, despite all experts contradicting this, is...
00:19:49.000 Is direct evidence of perhaps his selfish drive to preserve power at all costs and also evidence of Trump being a danger to American democracy?
00:19:57.000 I'm just asking.
00:19:58.000 I'm asking.
00:19:59.000 And the integrity of our institution.
00:19:59.000 No.
00:20:00.000 So, real quick, whether you think he incited the January 6th riots or not...
00:20:05.000 It's clear that Trump may have a widespread message that the U.S. election process could not be trusted.
00:20:09.000 So wouldn't you say that in this election cycle, having a candidate in office that respects the integrity of our election process and won't say things such as, there might not be another election process if I'm not elected, is more important than any policy or cultural issues of the candidates?
00:20:23.000 Well, no, but let's go through 2020. So, do you think it's normal for the CIA to interfere in American elections?
00:20:30.000 No.
00:20:30.000 No.
00:20:31.000 Okay, so what is your opinion about the CIA interfering with the 2020 election?
00:20:35.000 I don't know enough about it.
00:20:35.000 Yeah, okay, great.
00:20:36.000 So 50 former intel agents run by Tony Blinken signed a letter calling the Hunter Biden laptop Russian disinformation.
00:20:44.000 According to a poll by the Media Research Center, over 20% of swing voters would have voted for Trump if they would have known about the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:20:52.000 So before we get into counting or before we get into anything, the experts were the ones that were signing a letter saying that the Hunter Biden laptop was from Russia and that directly impacted people's votes.
00:21:03.000 Number two, is it normal when one of the world's wealthiest people, Mark Zuckerberg, put $400 million into our election system in heavy Democrat areas to boost Democrat turnout, otherwise known as Zuckerboxes?
00:21:15.000 No one disagrees with that.
00:21:17.000 In fact, it was so controversial.
00:21:18.000 Wisconsin has now banned Zuckerboxes in this upcoming election so that out-of-state billionaires cannot pump money in there.
00:21:24.000 And finally, when it goes to the errors in the 2020 election, we have to understand that Twitter and Facebook did not allow us.
00:21:33.000 I lost my Twitter account because I wanted to talk about the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:21:37.000 Praise God we now have Elon Musk running Twitter and X. It's a completely different environment.
00:21:41.000 And so when President Trump is talking about the issues of the 2020 election, let's just forget all the ballot issues, forget all of that.
00:21:48.000 He's talking about the most powerful institutions that were preventing us from being able to get information out to swing voters.
00:21:56.000 The threat to democracy is the CIA, is the FBI, is the Department of Justice.
00:22:02.000 It's the Department of Justice that's trying to put Donald Trump in jail right now so that people cannot make decisions about their candidate.
00:22:10.000 Donald Trump is not a threat to democracy.
00:22:12.000 Donald Trump is the savior of American democracy because unlike Kamala Harris, he actually won his primary and people actually voted for him.
00:22:22.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:22:23.000 Thank you.
00:22:23.000 You bet.
00:22:24.000 All right.
00:22:25.000 Next.
00:22:26.000 I just had a quick question about what's going on in Brazil tomorrow night.
00:22:30.000 Big matchup, Packers, Eagles.
00:22:33.000 Who you got?
00:22:34.000 Who you got?
00:22:36.000 As a Bears fan, probably.
00:22:38.000 First of all, we all have to admit, the 85 Bears are the best NFL team ever assembled.
00:22:43.000 I will disagree with that.
00:22:45.000 What is the best team ever assembled?
00:22:48.000 Of course he does.
00:22:49.000 So what's your answer?
00:22:50.000 What's your answer?
00:22:51.000 No, I'm going to be cheering for the Packers, for sure.
00:22:53.000 There you go.
00:22:54.000 Yeah, even as a Bears fan, because I can't stand the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:22:57.000 I think they're my most hated team in the NFL. And I have to say, I love the idea that the people own the Green Bay Packers, and that a Midwest town is able to have a top-level NFL franchise.
00:23:11.000 Thank you, thank you.
00:23:11.000 That's why I like the year.
00:23:12.000 Yes, go Pack, go.
00:23:13.000 There you go.
00:23:15.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:23:16.000 I'm also from Chicago.
00:23:17.000 What part?
00:23:18.000 Okay, cool.
00:23:18.000 Evanston.
00:23:19.000 And I just wanted to ask you, because I'm a big Catholic, I wanted to ask you, how important do you think religion is in this day and age?
00:23:24.000 Very important.
00:23:25.000 Yeah, I mean, as America becomes more secular and as the country becomes less godly, we become less free, more miserable, more depressed, more suicidal, more anxious, etc.
00:23:34.000 Yeah.
00:23:35.000 So, I see that you really do try to push religion.
00:23:40.000 You're a Christian, right?
00:23:41.000 Yeah, I am a Christian.
00:23:42.000 Did you grow up that way?
00:23:44.000 Yes and no.
00:23:45.000 Or did you just recently kind of...
00:23:46.000 No, I mean, I grew up in a passive Christian home, gave my life to the Lord when I was in fifth grade.
00:23:50.000 Yeah.
00:23:50.000 Okay.
00:23:51.000 Well, I just wanted to ask that, and thank you for...
00:23:53.000 You voting for Trump?
00:23:55.000 Of course.
00:23:56.000 There you go.
00:23:56.000 Okay.
00:23:56.000 You want a hat?
00:23:57.000 Yeah.
00:23:57.000 All right.
00:23:57.000 Okay.
00:23:58.000 Thank you.
00:23:58.000 Great.
00:23:59.000 Who's next?
00:24:00.000 Disagreements are welcome.
00:24:01.000 Yes.
00:24:02.000 Hi, so my brother actually wanted me to ask this.
00:24:06.000 So in 2018, you said that if you graduate from a four-year university with a specific skill that you should automatically get a green card?
00:24:13.000 Yeah, that was a stupid thing to say.
00:24:14.000 Okay, do you still stick by that?
00:24:16.000 Okay, and then I do want to throw this out there that I will be voting for Trump.
00:24:19.000 Good.
00:24:19.000 And can I explain why?
00:24:21.000 Please, yes.
00:24:22.000 So under the Trump administration, my family, we've long time, we've been renters.
00:24:26.000 So under the Trump administration, when the economy was good, my family...
00:24:31.000 They've been saving up for a house.
00:24:33.000 They had a good savings.
00:24:34.000 They were making well.
00:24:35.000 And over the last four years, their savings have been wiped out.
00:24:39.000 Inflation has killed them.
00:24:40.000 They're back to renting.
00:24:41.000 They don't know if they'll ever be able to retire.
00:24:43.000 So even though, as a Christian, I might not agree with how Trump has been in a couple marriages, sleeps with a lot of women, and gets into all this personal drama, just simply based off the economy, I believe I have to vote for Trump.
00:24:58.000 Well said.
00:24:59.000 Thank you so much.
00:25:00.000 You want a hat?
00:25:01.000 Tell your friends.
00:25:02.000 Love it.
00:25:03.000 All right.
00:25:03.000 Yes.
00:25:04.000 Who do you have tonight?
00:25:04.000 Quick question.
00:25:05.000 Ravens or Chiefs?
00:25:06.000 Oh, Chiefs.
00:25:07.000 All right.
00:25:07.000 For sure.
00:25:08.000 Well, hold on.
00:25:09.000 Let me tell you why.
00:25:09.000 Hold on.
00:25:10.000 Brittany Mahomes endorsed Donald Trump and Harrison Butker is the man.
00:25:12.000 So go Chiefs.
00:25:13.000 Yeah.
00:25:14.000 Can I get a hat?
00:25:14.000 Yeah.
00:25:15.000 Huh?
00:25:15.000 Can I get a hat?
00:25:16.000 Yes, you can.
00:25:17.000 All right.
00:25:17.000 Signs, maybe?
00:25:18.000 Sure.
00:25:18.000 I do need a marker.
00:25:19.000 Yes.
00:25:19.000 Can I keep your marker?
00:25:20.000 All right.
00:25:20.000 Thanks, guys.
00:25:23.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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00:26:26.000 Yes, ma'am.
00:26:27.000 Hi.
00:26:27.000 So I had another question regarding your opinions on Project 2025. I know Trump has said that he aligns with some parts of it but also has heavy disagreements with others.
00:26:37.000 I think it's also pretty apparent that the Harris campaign is using that against him as more of a fear factor.
00:26:44.000 Do you believe that there are any policies, whether it's Harris or Trump in office, that could be taken from Project 2025 and benefit America?
00:26:53.000 Yeah, I think, again, the document is very long.
00:26:56.000 The best part of the document is the border plan, is how to secure the border.
00:27:00.000 And how to stop the flow of fentanyl into our communities.
00:27:03.000 It's very detailed.
00:27:04.000 It allows Border Patrol to do their job, remain in Mexico.
00:27:07.000 Also, if you are caught dealing fentanyl, you should get life in jail, period.
00:27:12.000 That if you are caught dealing fentanyl, and there's a whole part of the Project 2025 that's about that.
00:27:16.000 So, thank you.
00:27:18.000 If you want a hat, just let me know.
00:27:19.000 Yes.
00:27:19.000 Yes, happy to.
00:27:20.000 Who's next?
00:27:21.000 Yes, I'll sign them all.
00:27:22.000 Who wants to go next?
00:27:23.000 Yes.
00:27:24.000 Disagreements are welcome.
00:27:25.000 Thank you for your question.
00:27:27.000 Yes, sir.
00:27:28.000 So first off, I'm a Republican, voting for Trump.
00:27:31.000 Super excited about that.
00:27:32.000 But there is obviously a huge issue in the country with healthcare prices.
00:27:37.000 And I know Trump had the transparency executive order, but what do you think is the best way to lower costs for families?
00:27:46.000 Yeah, I mean, this is huge.
00:27:48.000 First of all, you just have to lower inflation more broadly.
00:27:50.000 That's number one.
00:27:51.000 Number two, you have to go after the hospital lobby, where the hospitals are gouging prices significantly.
00:27:56.000 Number three, this is why I'm wearing the Make America Healthy shirt.
00:28:01.000 We have to try to get at the root cause, which is the food that we are feeding ourselves and our kids.
00:28:07.000 We have to get to the fact that we are an increasingly sedentary country.
00:28:12.000 We aren't walking enough.
00:28:13.000 We're not exercising enough.
00:28:14.000 And healthcare costs are exploding because we don't actually address the root cause 20 or 30 years prior.
00:28:21.000 How do we take on those huge food companies?
00:28:23.000 Well, the first thing is we should have a real conversation about banning pesticides when we're making our food.
00:28:28.000 Ultra processed food should not be on the FDA recommended food pyramid.
00:28:35.000 This is why I love Bobby Kennedy coming and joining teams with Donald Trump is that it's his life mission to make America healthier.
00:28:41.000 We have a chronic disease epidemic.
00:28:44.000 Of all America's kids are chronically obese or overweight.
00:28:48.000 In Japan, it is 3%.
00:28:50.000 It's not because our kids are lazier.
00:28:52.000 It's because we are actively poisoning our kids with food from Big Ag that we're spraying with all these pesticides, these chemicals.
00:29:01.000 And if you look at the ingredient list of just a Lunchables box, we are basically giving kids the worst thing possible for their metabolism, for their endocrinology.
00:29:08.000 So I'm more interested in a healthcare conversation that tries to make sure That a 12-year-old doesn't have to get on Ozembic by the time they're 18 years old.
00:29:17.000 And just so you know, they're giving pediatric Ozembic now for 12 and 13-year-olds.
00:29:21.000 They are now treating obesity as a genetic disorder that you cannot do anything about.
00:29:27.000 And they just want a 12-year-old to now have to take a shot every week to try to curb their obesity, which has all other sorts of very, very negative health implications.
00:29:35.000 So every day, potentially, right?
00:29:38.000 And so how do we solve that?
00:29:40.000 Well, my personal crusade, we have to blow up the food pyramid, that we have way too many carbohydrates in our diet, not enough healthy fats, and not enough protein.
00:29:50.000 Whoever made that was obviously bought by the big ag companies.
00:29:53.000 And you should just say, I'm not going to have any more high fructose corn syrup.
00:29:57.000 I'm not going to have any more processed sugars.
00:29:58.000 And if there are ingredients I can't pronounce, I should resist it.
00:30:02.000 And in the ideal, we should have a government that promotes the question, did God make it or did man make it?
00:30:07.000 Have more foods every day that God made more so than what man made, and you'll be a lot healthier because of it.
00:30:12.000 So thank you very much.
00:30:13.000 Appreciate it.
00:30:14.000 Thank you.
00:30:15.000 Yes, sir.
00:30:15.000 All right.
00:30:16.000 You guys are troopers in the rain here.
00:30:20.000 One, I need you to kind of inform me on something.
00:30:23.000 One thing I see a lot when it comes to just the Republican media and stuff is anti-DEI legislature, especially in schools and stuff.
00:30:31.000 I don't know too much about that, so before I ask my question, potentially disagree, can you just tell me...
00:30:36.000 What that means, anti-DEI. So, for example, let's just take in when you...
00:30:41.000 The question was, explain what anti-DEI... So there's anti-DEI in curriculum, then anti-DEI in practice.
00:30:48.000 Let's talk about practice first.
00:30:50.000 So if you are hiring somebody, for example, to become a surgeon or to become a healthcare technician, to not have DEI means you're going to hire only based on merit, not based on skin color.
00:31:02.000 A DEI program says, well, we need 12% or 20% of all of our surgeons to be black.
00:31:06.000 I don't care the color of the skin of my surgeon.
00:31:08.000 I want my surgeon to be the best in the world.
00:31:10.000 So an anti-DEI program is to put merit above something that doesn't matter race.
00:31:14.000 A DEI program would say, well, half your pilots aren't black, and that's a problem.
00:31:19.000 So that would be a DEI program.
00:31:22.000 In education, it is to say that we need to try to diversify these fields to try to say excellence does not matter as much as diversity.
00:31:29.000 Does that explain it okay?
00:31:30.000 Yeah, it does.
00:31:30.000 Okay.
00:31:31.000 So, like, where I kind of come from, I'm a doctoral student in the School of Education.
00:31:36.000 What I kind of want to look at is MENA students in higher education, how they experience...
00:31:41.000 Middle Eastern, North African students, how they experience acculturation and stuff, because I think it's more nuanced, or not more, it's just, it's different from how Asian American students, black students, how they may experience...
00:31:41.000 MENA, what is that?
00:31:52.000 Assimilation, acculturation.
00:31:54.000 I'm curious, like, is that something that individuals or your side of the political realm, are you against that kind of research, you know?
00:32:04.000 Research into how Minas are mistreated is what you're saying?
00:32:09.000 That would be specifically my research, but no, not how they're mistreated.
00:32:13.000 Okay, I misheard that.
00:32:14.000 Simply like...
00:32:15.000 The sociological and psychological mechanisms behind how they assimilate.
00:32:21.000 Yeah, I'm not that interested in that.
00:32:23.000 Okay, so you wouldn't call that like DEI, like woke research.
00:32:27.000 I don't know.
00:32:28.000 I'd have to learn more about it.
00:32:29.000 But how does that apply to medicine?
00:32:31.000 Medicine?
00:32:32.000 Because you said you're in the medical.
00:32:33.000 No, no, no.
00:32:33.000 School of Education.
00:32:34.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:32:35.000 I misheard you.
00:32:36.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:32:36.000 I misheard you.
00:32:37.000 Okay.
00:32:37.000 Yeah.
00:32:38.000 I don't know if that's a great use of time.
00:32:40.000 I guess you could do that.
00:32:41.000 But what country of origin is your family?
00:32:46.000 Assyrian? 0.84
00:32:46.000 My family? 0.84
00:32:47.000 Iran.
00:32:47.000 Okay, yeah.
00:32:48.000 So here's a great example.
00:32:50.000 Iranians, Persians, you guys do not need DEI. You're the most successful immigrant group to America by far because you're some of the smartest, hardest working, and you did that without any sort of favors and any sort of handouts.
00:33:01.000 I mean, Persian businessmen have done amazing in America, not because of DEI. DEI would say, oh, Persians are too successful.
00:33:09.000 We're going to call them white and we're going to try to have another group be more successful. 0.99
00:33:13.000 And so that I just kind of personalize it to you.
00:33:16.000 Persians have benefited from the idea. 0.99
00:33:18.000 Don't give me anything.
00:33:19.000 Don't give me stuff.
00:33:20.000 Just give me a chance.
00:33:21.000 And because of that, Persians or former Iranians are some of the wealthiest immigrant groups in the history of America.
00:33:26.000 May I kind of come back at that?
00:33:28.000 So I agree with what you just said, actually.
00:33:31.000 But to just reinforce why I think the work is important, at least for me, when I read the literature and when I see the impacts, it's simply just like more people graduate, more people succeed in their classes, more people might persist from an undergraduate program to a graduate program.
00:33:50.000 And like evidence shows that that kind of work and the policies that come into place from that kind of work helps with that.
00:33:57.000 What is the work?
00:34:00.000 What is the work?
00:34:02.000 Help me understand.
00:34:03.000 Like, the type of research that I'm talking about in terms of researching student affairs, different programs, different resources that we give to students, like recreation and well-being.
00:34:14.000 That would be an example of a resource.
00:34:15.000 Yeah, that seems pretty banal.
00:34:16.000 I mean, I have no issue with that.
00:34:18.000 All right, cool.
00:34:18.000 Thank you.
00:34:19.000 All right, thank you.
00:34:19.000 Thank you.
00:34:20.000 Yes, next question.
00:34:21.000 Disagreements?
00:34:22.000 Welcome.
00:34:22.000 Yes, I will.
00:34:23.000 Yes.
00:34:24.000 Oh, hey, Charlie.
00:34:25.000 I'm talking.
00:34:26.000 Yes.
00:34:26.000 Yeah.
00:34:27.000 So I saw on a video the other day, a little kid came up to you and he said, oh, I heard you said that the civil rights bill should...
00:34:32.000 And I was just kind of wondering.
00:34:33.000 And then you said, no.
00:34:34.000 I said it was a mistake.
00:34:36.000 I was just kind of wondering if you could maybe...
00:34:37.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:34:38.000 I'm sure it was taken out of context.
00:34:39.000 No, I just didn't want to debate a 12-year-old with the DNC, honestly.
00:34:41.000 Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
00:34:41.000 And I was wondering if now we have the time.
00:34:43.000 Now we have the time.
00:34:45.000 And he was super sweet and super nice.
00:34:46.000 I'm like, I'm not going to debate you.
00:34:47.000 Like, Mike Lindell ended up debating him.
00:34:48.000 It was a disaster.
00:34:49.000 So, yeah, look, very clear.
00:34:51.000 Of course we needed to end evil segregation.
00:34:53.000 The way we did it was with a wide-ranging, over-the-top bill called the Civil Rights Act that has now created the prerequisite of what we now call woke.
00:35:03.000 And so, for example, the Civil Rights Act is now being used to put men in female locker rooms. 1.00
00:35:08.000 The Civil Rights Act is now being used to shut down people's business if they have a certain belief on one-man, one-woman marriage, saying that that is discrimination under the Civil Rights Act.
00:35:17.000 So, of course, my perspective is it should be illegal to actively discriminate against somebody based on their skin color.
00:35:22.000 That's not what the Civil Rights Act only did, though.
00:35:24.000 That's one portion of the Civil Rights Act. 0.80
00:35:26.000 There's nine or ten components that people don't even recognize or realize that effectively created this massive anti-racist, anti-racist is the term the left uses, monstrosity that is now being used for things that it was never intended for.
00:35:41.000 Including affirmative action.
00:35:43.000 And what's, like, can you name maybe a few specific cases where people have cited, like, using a civil rights movement or something that doesn't relate to it?
00:35:49.000 Great question.
00:35:50.000 So Merrick Garland recently, the Attorney General of the United States, recently said that North Carolina and Georgia cannot have voter ID laws.
00:36:00.000 So asking somebody to provide identification when they vote, because it's a violation of the Civil Rights Act.
00:36:06.000 because they say that it disproportionately impacts black Americans.
00:36:10.000 So the issue with the Civil Rights Act is not just the action of racially segregating or of being racially insensitive to somebody.
00:36:23.000 It is the impact.
00:36:25.000 So if it impacts a certain group, therefore it's also then called illegal under the Civil Rights Act.
00:36:31.000 Does that make sense?
00:36:31.000 Yeah, so it most certainly wasn't a mistake, though.
00:36:34.000 Well, of course it was a mistake.
00:36:35.000 The way it was written, the intent was not, though.
00:36:37.000 Okay, but at the time, of course, it was not a mistake.
00:36:40.000 Yes, it was.
00:36:41.000 The way that it was written.
00:36:42.000 What people have used it for now, maybe yes, but back then it wasn't a mistake, though, because No, but you have to judge the law as it is now, right?
00:36:49.000 So it's like saying, well, the law might have been good 20 years ago, but I'll give you another example, right?
00:36:54.000 So Joe Biden, and thankfully this got overturned by a court, but previously he was using the Civil Rights Act saying that biological men who think they are women, so what people would call trans women, but they're not women, are allowed into locker rooms under the Civil Rights Act.
00:37:08.000 Right.
00:37:09.000 I mean, any civil rights leader back in the 60s did not march in Selma so that perverted men can go into, you know, women's locker rooms. 0.57
00:37:17.000 Okay, but so you did say, oh, I'm against discrimination, but I don't think the civil rights bill should be signed.
00:37:22.000 So one provision, I think, should have been passed.
00:37:25.000 So one provision was good.
00:37:26.000 You're saying it should have been, like, more minor.
00:37:29.000 It should have been whittled down, and it should have been this massive, overreaching monstrosity.
00:37:34.000 Okay, thank you.
00:37:35.000 Appreciate it.
00:37:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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