The Charlie Kirk Show - September 28, 2026


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00:01:17.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:18.000 Today, it is September 28th, 2026.
00:01:23.000 We are remote.
00:01:24.000 You got Tyler Boyer here, COO of Turning Point Action, joining me in studio at the YRefi Remote Studios.
00:01:30.000 So we got Blake Neff holding it down.
00:01:32.000 He's got my mic flag back.
00:01:33.000 That's my mic flag.
00:01:34.000 Well, either way, I have a mic flag and you don't.
00:01:38.000 Well, that is true, but we are holding it down here in our nation's capital.
00:01:42.000 Honored to be joined with you all across the country.
00:01:46.000 And if you see Tyler Boyer's face, that means you know we are about to get into the hard politics of it all.
00:01:52.000 Tyler is the architect leading the charge when it comes to turning point actions, get out the vote efforts.
00:01:58.000 We call it our Chase the Vote Project.
00:02:00.000 He's doing an amazing job.
00:02:02.000 And I just want people to understand this really quickly here at the onset.
00:02:06.000 We've got a packed show for you, by the way.
00:02:08.000 We are how many days out, guys?
00:02:09.000 We're 36 days out.
00:02:12.000 To election day.
00:02:13.000 36 days.
00:02:14.000 That's one month out.
00:02:15.000 We have so much work to do.
00:02:16.000 And I want to remind you that the future is wide open.
00:02:20.000 The truth about what's going to happen in this midterm is not written yet.
00:02:26.000 We have the chance to put our own authorship to it.
00:02:29.000 And that's why we work every day in and out.
00:02:31.000 We don't sleep.
00:02:32.000 Look at him.
00:02:33.000 Tyler's like seven years older than you were last year.
00:02:36.000 Yeah.
00:02:36.000 I know.
00:02:37.000 We all are.
00:02:37.000 A decade older.
00:02:38.000 All right.
00:02:39.000 So, Tyler, you have put together this.
00:02:42.000 Who to watch graphic, right?
00:02:45.000 This is throw up 143.
00:02:47.000 This is all hands on deck for these races.
00:02:50.000 We're going to do it again and we're going to tell you how to get involved, folks, because this is all about grassroots action, action, action.
00:02:57.000 We're about being a solution.
00:02:58.000 Everybody else complains, everybody else tears down.
00:03:01.000 We build, we find solutions, and we want to save this country.
00:03:05.000 So let's start from the top left, John Sununu, Tyler Boyer.
00:03:08.000 Yeah, and this is going to lead right into a conversation we're going to have later about people freaking out, particularly about how midterm they're looking.
00:03:16.000 But there are probably four or five states that are going to determine everything, the whole shebang.
00:03:22.000 And from the top, the state that we have worked in very diligently in New Hampshire, Johnson Nunu, is one of the only candidates that's moving a lot of the national dialogue to the right, which has been really fantastic.
00:03:38.000 People are on fire in New Hampshire.
00:03:39.000 I just got back.
00:03:40.000 I'm there probably about almost once a week.
00:03:43.000 Yeah.
00:03:43.000 Did you ever think you were going to become so accustomed to Boston's Manport?
00:03:47.000 Manport.
00:03:48.000 Red eyes every week going back and forth.
00:03:52.000 But the team that's there, I mean, our Granite Staters, the good people of New Hampshire are working their tails off right now to do something special.
00:04:02.000 Yeah.
00:04:03.000 And, you know, Johnson Uno, as in the pre tape here, is up against Chris Pappas, who is an absolute do nothing, total radical.
00:04:13.000 He's campaigning with Pocahontas in his state.
00:04:16.000 I mean, totally crazy stuff that's happening.
00:04:19.000 And New Hampshire has the decision to make Are they going to be represented by essentially the Massachusetts bold, or are they going to come out and be the free stater, you know, Granite State?
00:04:34.000 Uh, live free or die mentality that New Hampshire has always been.
00:04:38.000 Well, and listen so, for those listening in the audience that don't understand the intricacies of New Hampshire politics, it has more registered Republicans than Democrats.
00:04:47.000 It's the indie vote, right?
00:04:48.000 That typically depends or swings the state.
00:04:51.000 They like to send Democrats to federal office, but on the state level, they've been electing Republicans, okay?
00:04:57.000 And one of the trends that we're seeing is if we do have headwinds, you're seeing it sometimes more in red states.
00:05:03.000 The blue states like Minnesota, Maine, New Hampshire could be.
00:05:07.000 In this weird map of 2026, could be the opportunity to hold or even expand.
00:05:12.000 If everything falls our way, guys, we could expand the Senate.
00:05:15.000 I don't want that to be outside of the realm of possibility here, but it could be the blue states where we hold ground.
00:05:21.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it's part of this whole idea that the left has bit off more than they can chew.
00:05:28.000 I mean, they are trying to take the Senate, trying to take the House, trying to win in places that they abnormally win in, like Kansas, where they're trying to protect a governor there.
00:05:40.000 And so.
00:05:41.000 You have a situation where in New Hampshire, you have, I mean, a relatively conservative state that is rural, suburban Boston.
00:05:51.000 Yep.
00:05:52.000 But, you know, like you said, they keep winning on the federal side because they just pump tons and tons of money in for chasing votes and for convincing people that they're going to lose something at the federal level.
00:06:03.000 So, I mean, our conversations right now that we're having on the ground with people are that people are kind of over the whole leftist kind of running the federal side of things.
00:06:14.000 I mean, New Hampshire kind of, again, is a generically conservative state, always has been, and has three out of three federal office holders as Democrats.
00:06:24.000 Are you saying four out of four?
00:06:26.000 But there is this you brought up the idea that could be biting off more than they could chew.
00:06:31.000 Is there a possibility that Democrats, now that they smell blood in Kansas, they smell blood in Ohio, they smell blood in all these states, that they're spreading their resources out a little bit too thin and they might be neglecting something like New Hampshire, where we're going all in?
00:06:45.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:06:46.000 I mean, that's part of the game that you have to play, right?
00:06:49.000 When you wore out these things, you got to look at where potentially your enemy is going to be the weakest.
00:06:55.000 And again, you look at Maine and New Hampshire and you go, you got to keep Susan Collins.
00:07:01.000 And so, and remember that there's some shared things going on there, right?
00:07:05.000 Because Maine and New Hampshire are both, again, this suburban rural area of Boston, of the Boston metropolitan area.
00:07:14.000 And again, Boston's not huge.
00:07:15.000 But those areas all share similar TV patterns.
00:07:19.000 They share similar radio patterns.
00:07:20.000 Similar culture, too.
00:07:21.000 And so when you have a race like what's happening in Maine, it makes even more sense to go all in on New Hampshire because hopefully you can catch, again, our own kind of unwatched headwinds that are going in the right direction.
00:07:38.000 Now, that is all to say, this would be much better in a year like, again, 2022, where probably these things weren't taken advantage of.
00:07:48.000 Right.
00:07:48.000 To their greatest extent.
00:07:50.000 But I think if we can prove something, the conservative movement can band together and prove something this year, given the circumstances, given the fact that we hold the presidency and basically, again, that trifecta that's in DC, that's a big deal.
00:08:04.000 Well, all right.
00:08:05.000 So listen, we could have a weird map this year, but I'm also thinking there could be a hidden Trump vote or a Republican vote in this sense.
00:08:15.000 We're going to talk about that in the next segment.
00:08:16.000 But Tyler, really quick, why don't you go through just rapid fire across this list in the last two minutes we have this?
00:08:22.000 So let's talk about the.
00:08:24.000 Other three states that matter the most.
00:08:25.000 So, what that graphic is Arizona, Iowa, and Michigan.
00:08:28.000 And the reason why, with that, you have, I guess, Arizona, Iowa, and Michigan, you actually have three governor's races that are happening there.
00:08:36.000 In Michigan, you have the Senate race, which we know so well with El Said, the Jihadi commie who's running.
00:08:45.000 And so, that's a true test of, you know, is Michigan lost or not at the end of the day is that Senate race.
00:08:51.000 But down ballot, you have more per capita.
00:08:55.000 I mean, there's three states that will ultimately.
00:08:59.000 Really decide probably what Congress is going to look like.
00:09:01.000 That's Arizona, Iowa, and Michigan.
00:09:04.000 Arizona, you've got two to three, you know, really you could consider three swing districts Jay Feely, Juan Siscomani, Jay Feely, Juan Siscomani, Eli Crane, Eli Crane.
00:09:13.000 And then in Iowa, you've got three races with Zach Nunn, Marionette Miller Meeks, who won infamously by just a handful of votes in our first race.
00:09:25.000 And then also Joe Mitchell, who is our guy, who's great, who's awesome.
00:09:29.000 Joe's great.
00:09:29.000 So, you've got talent.
00:09:30.000 Yeah.
00:09:31.000 But more money has been spent in Joe Mitchell's race that nobody's talking about by the Democrats than anywhere else.
00:09:39.000 There's a massive disadvantage that's there.
00:09:42.000 So the Democrats are going all in on Iowa as well.
00:09:46.000 Also in run up to 2028, where you have a presidential caucus system that's there.
00:09:50.000 And so it benefits them.
00:09:51.000 And so they're smart.
00:09:52.000 They kill multiple verses of one stone.
00:09:54.000 And then in Michigan, you've got multiple races there going as well.
00:10:00.000 And again, that governor's race, where you have.
00:10:04.000 Our current sitting congressman that's running for governor, that's there.
00:10:08.000 So, those three states are, you know, if the movement was smart.
00:10:13.000 Arizona and Michigan.
00:10:15.000 Yeah.
00:10:15.000 And if the movement was smart, you're going all in on those places.
00:10:19.000 And then I always throw in, obviously, the Scott Perry's, which we got to keep Scott Perry, former chair of the Freedom Caucus, Derek Van Orden, which I think is, he's kind of the race to watch because I think what happens with Van Orden is going to tell us a lot about.
00:10:36.000 All right.
00:10:36.000 We're keeping tabs, by the way, on this story.
00:10:39.000 Out of the UK, where these military aged males, they're calling them British nationals, Blake.
00:10:46.000 They always do.
00:10:47.000 They're refusing to confirm their origin and heritage.
00:10:51.000 Yeah.
00:10:52.000 We know exactly what it's going to be.
00:10:54.000 It's going to be people from far off countries who should not be in Britain.
00:10:58.000 They are now British nationals, probably get free housing, free everything else, brought into the country, and their only purpose is to try to blow up actual British people.
00:11:08.000 Yeah.
00:11:09.000 Well, this is.
00:11:10.000 This is a the Fairford base in the UK is used by the US.
00:11:15.000 It's a sort of a it's since World War II, they've been using it.
00:11:18.000 We've been sort of been allowed to use it by the UK.
00:11:22.000 So we'll see what happens there.
00:11:25.000 But the fact that they're not talking about their heritage, you know, we're assuming it's just like, you know, five white boys out of London.
00:11:33.000 Well, if you've been to London, odds.
00:11:35.000 No, the odds are that it's not just five good old white boys.
00:11:40.000 Hey, listen, if it is.
00:11:42.000 It is what it is.
00:11:42.000 I just couldn't imagine that being the case, but we are keeping tabs on this right now.
00:11:47.000 I want to bring this up, Tyler.
00:11:49.000 Okay, so we went around the horn.
00:11:50.000 All the races that Turning Point Action is watching, we're working as hard as we can.
00:11:55.000 We've got field offices in New Hampshire, Arizona, Nevada.
00:11:58.000 We're building the red wall towards 2028, but we're also focused on the here and now.
00:12:03.000 So this is an interesting graphic that just came out, all right?
00:12:08.000 You posted about it.
00:12:09.000 I wanted to bring it up, okay?
00:12:10.000 So we have this graphic states where Republicans are hardest to reach in polls per echelon insights.
00:12:17.000 Now, again, the context here, Blake and Tyler, Is that we have been told that we could have this upside down map where we win in Minnesota, Maine, maybe New Hampshire, blue states, but we lose ground more so proportionally in red states.
00:12:34.000 But look at this most hidden Republican voters.
00:12:37.000 So the hardest voters to poll are in Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Arizona.
00:12:43.000 That is a huge chunk of the Musquatch states that you were just looking at Arizona, Juan Siscomani, Eli Crane, Jay Feely.
00:12:52.000 Got to hold the house there.
00:12:53.000 Iowa, you just went through the list in Iowa.
00:12:55.000 Michigan, you just went through the list in Michigan.
00:12:58.000 Those are the hardest to reach states, according to this graphic.
00:13:01.000 Yep.
00:13:02.000 So, what are we to look into this?
00:13:04.000 So, this is why the message today is the future is unwritten.
00:13:08.000 We have to write it ourselves, we have to author it ourselves.
00:13:11.000 Do not give in to the polls.
00:13:13.000 And now we're told that the states where apparently we're losing the most ground or we're the most worried about, they're hard to reach for conservatives on the polling side.
00:13:21.000 Tyler, you might know this.
00:13:22.000 How do we distinguish.
00:13:24.000 A real Republican who's hard to reach, hard to poll, from a Republican who's maybe just demoralized and checked out.
00:13:31.000 I think that's a natural pushback.
00:13:33.000 So, are we able to distinguish the two?
00:13:35.000 Yeah, I'm not sure how they identified this, but I think this is beyond in the echelon insights, is just in general, they have a difficult time getting a hold to even make that determination of who that individual could be.
00:13:49.000 I mean, there's a number of different reasons why somebody might not answer a poll.
00:13:54.000 I think that.
00:13:55.000 Somebody who's less motivated, Blake, actually has more interest in answering a poll than somebody who is not.
00:14:02.000 Like someone that wants to complain, that wants to be like the poll Karen, typically is overrepresented in polls instead of underrepresented, if that makes sense.
00:14:10.000 So I actually think that that's even your point.
00:14:15.000 If there is a lack of sentiment, they're typically that is overrepresented in some of these polls, which is actually another good thing.
00:14:23.000 You're generic, just show up, cast a ballot type.
00:14:26.000 Type Republican in this context is far more underrepresented in these specific states.
00:14:34.000 And it's not just Arizona, Iowa, and Michigan, which are three of the most critical states for this election, specifically with midterms, but we're also Nevada's on there, New Hampshire's on there, Ohio is on there.
00:14:44.000 Ohio's big, by the way.
00:14:46.000 Ohio's big.
00:14:47.000 Texas is on there.
00:14:48.000 So you look at this, you start going, okay, well, you know, there have been some other studies that have been done where people have made claims that potentially Republicans are.
00:14:59.000 Underrepresented by five, six, seven points on some of these polls.
00:15:03.000 Yeah.
00:15:03.000 Which, by the way, I will tell you, I want to give our audience some hope here.
00:15:08.000 And this is not an excuse not to do anything.
00:15:10.000 Do as much.
00:15:11.000 We got to play like we're underdogs.
00:15:12.000 Republicans do great when we're underdogs, okay?
00:15:14.000 Let's be underdogs.
00:15:15.000 We should throw this graphic back up, too.
00:15:17.000 We should throw this graphic back up.
00:15:18.000 Yeah, throw the graphic back up.
00:15:20.000 So I'm hearing from my sources that Paxton's internal polling has him up.
00:15:25.000 It's still close, still very close.
00:15:27.000 I'm hearing Vivek Ramaswamy in Ohio, his internal polling has him slightly up.
00:15:31.000 But if we're also.
00:15:33.000 Have this issue with hidden Republican voters in these states.
00:15:37.000 I mean, that could be a really big deal come election day.
00:15:40.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a jump ball.
00:15:42.000 Look, that's what I'm saying.
00:15:42.000 This election at the end of the day is going to be who is more motivated, who can turn out more votes.
00:15:50.000 The reality is that in 2018, you had a far more motivated Democrat base to show up to vote.
00:15:58.000 All of their own polling, the Democrats' own polling, and they're easier to grab than our people, is showing that they're not interested, not motivated, and not showing up.
00:16:10.000 Now, again, most of the primary elections did not show Republicans showing up in huge numbers.
00:16:16.000 That wasn't the case in Arizona.
00:16:18.000 Arizona, we actually outnumbered, surprisingly and shockingly, the Democrats in the primary election.
00:16:24.000 Again, you can't pull so much from a, you can't pull really anything from a primary election.
00:16:28.000 Well, and we had a contested Republican primary, obviously an uncontested at the governor's level.
00:16:33.000 Yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, it sort of was.
00:16:36.000 I mean, Andy Biggs won by 75 points.
00:16:37.000 So it's like, it's not really like a hugely contested election.
00:16:41.000 So, I mean, look, you've got a scenario here where Republicans can reach their base voters in a big way and turn them out.
00:16:50.000 With things that matter to them, then you have a chance to win in any one of these states.
00:16:55.000 So I'm hearing just, you know, listen, I'm constantly on the phone with folks.
00:17:01.000 Blake, I'd love your input on this as well.
00:17:03.000 I'm hearing that the border crime and leftist crazies are the points where we can hit.
00:17:08.000 Yep.
00:17:09.000 I mean, I think that resonates with the voter.
00:17:11.000 I think it's tough sometimes to get voters aboard, but you have to remind them aggressively what the left actually does when they're in power, what they did.
00:17:22.000 Quite recently, when they're in power, and really show people this is instantly coming back.
00:17:27.000 You need to be afraid of this.
00:17:29.000 You remember 2020, you remember 2021, you remember the Biden years.
00:17:34.000 That is all coming back.
00:17:36.000 You're not going to get anything normal.
00:17:38.000 You're not going to just rebuke the Trump administration for whatever you're mad about.
00:17:42.000 And I think, as Mark Halpern said, fear is a good motivator, and it should be because we should be afraid of what the left wants.
00:17:49.000 Well, and Blake, Cohen Jeffries came out and said it.
00:17:52.000 He straight up said he told every one of their supporters the moment that they win, they're bringing back all investigations.
00:18:01.000 No.
00:18:03.000 They said they're going to have dozens of investigations simultaneous.
00:18:07.000 They're going to immediately keep impeachment on the table.
00:18:11.000 I mean, we're talking about utter chaos that will happen in this country if the Democrats take power.
00:18:18.000 And people will, I think, really regret not showing up to vote if they choose not to.
00:18:22.000 Yeah, listen, now is the time for action.
00:18:25.000 We're 36 days out.
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00:20:16.000 Sean Davis joins us, the great Sean Davis, founder of The Federalist, CEO of The Federalist, and one of the best follows out there on X, formerly known as Twitter.
00:20:26.000 All right, Sean, I was texting with you.
00:20:28.000 I know you're really worked up about this.
00:20:29.000 I think Blake's kind of.
00:20:31.000 I'm actually curious about Blake's take here, too.
00:20:34.000 Much ado about nothing, or is the outrage rightly placed?
00:20:37.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders released an ad talking about welfare queens, but it wasn't a queen.
00:20:45.000 Anyways.
00:20:46.000 Stop 15.
00:20:46.000 Yeah, you want some of this?
00:20:48.000 Take that.
00:20:49.000 Come on.
00:20:50.000 Meet Brad.
00:20:51.000 Brad has turned relaxing into a full time profession.
00:20:55.000 But you, you actually work hard.
00:20:58.000 You pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like Brad who just choose not to work.
00:21:03.000 Whoa.
00:21:04.000 That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
00:21:08.000 Almost there.
00:21:09.000 Now, more Arkansans are working than ever before.
00:21:14.000 Whoa.
00:21:14.000 Even Brad.
00:21:17.000 I'm just grateful that she helped me with the name of somebody who lives in Arkansas.
00:21:22.000 It's Arkansans.
00:21:25.000 I apologize.
00:21:26.000 I didn't know that to our audience out there.
00:21:28.000 Okay.
00:21:31.000 The policy is good.
00:21:32.000 You should work if you can, if you're able bodied.
00:21:36.000 What's your issue here?
00:21:37.000 Yeah, the policy is great.
00:21:38.000 The message is great.
00:21:40.000 I have some questions about how and why Brad was picked as the stereotypical welfare recipient.
00:21:51.000 It's not a great time to be a strapping young white dude in America.
00:21:56.000 Trust me, I know.
00:21:59.000 For decades, the white man has been systematically discriminated against, locked out of jobs, just kind of thrown aside and told, maybe you should learn to code.
00:22:10.000 And then now he's the butt of jokes and welfare queen ads.
00:22:14.000 If you look at immigrants coming into America, 70% of them are on welfare.
00:22:19.000 We all know exactly what a stereotypical welfare recipient looks like.
00:22:24.000 It's not a dude in his 20s.
00:22:26.000 It's not a guy who's 19.
00:22:28.000 Like, he may be living at home longer than he needs to.
00:22:30.000 He's not on welfare.
00:22:31.000 So, the question I ask is, like, why, Sarah Huckabee, are you going after this guy, this demographic?
00:22:38.000 This is your base, and yet we're going to make him the butt of jokes?
00:22:40.000 I just think it's kind of weird.
00:22:43.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:22:44.000 I don't want to flip out too much about it, just in the sense that we said we don't like that the left constantly is aggrieved about everything and that they decide, like, anything that is just.
00:22:56.000 Literally, like any work of fiction can be a reason to suddenly flip out because you're punching down or not punching up the right way or punching at the wrong person.
00:23:05.000 Because whether he's stereotypical or not, people like Brad do exist.
00:23:09.000 We do have tons of neats.
00:23:11.000 And even the end of the ad is, by the way, Brad is now working and that's an admirable thing.
00:23:16.000 Like, could they have put someone else in the ad?
00:23:18.000 Yes.
00:23:19.000 But it does feel like we're becoming more like the left if we're going to freak out about it.
00:23:25.000 In fact, I guess I thought the ad would be a little bit worse when I first heard about it.
00:23:29.000 Because I can definitely imagine a version of that that is worse.
00:23:32.000 But it's basically just saying there are people who sit at home and don't work and they live off welfare.
00:23:38.000 So we changed that.
00:23:40.000 And you could have put anyone in that ad.
00:23:42.000 Well, what they should have done is they should have had, you know, Brad next to, you know, I don't know, LaQuisha or something.
00:23:51.000 And then just, you know, put in some other characters then.
00:23:54.000 So like you're equal opportunity offenders and you get the point across.
00:23:57.000 That would have been one strategy.
00:23:58.000 But nevertheless, our friend Jack Posobic did a tweet here.
00:24:03.000 He asked Grok.
00:24:04.000 At Grok, what demographic has the highest rates of welfare program participation in Arkansas?
00:24:08.000 Is it white males?
00:24:10.000 No, the answer consensus ACS data for Arkansas shows black households have the highest SNAP participation rates at about 22%, versus 8% for white households.
00:24:21.000 Medicaid coverage rates for ages 0 to 64 are also highest among black residents in nearly 40%, versus about 24.5% for white.
00:24:30.000 And then it goes on about female headed households and cuts off.
00:24:33.000 I mean, so to your point, Blake, it is.
00:24:36.000 Too high even for white households for my liking, actually.
00:24:40.000 But it is higher among other things.
00:24:44.000 Our belief on the right is that people should be judged as individuals and that also we shouldn't shy away from the fact that there are differences between groups.
00:24:54.000 So I guess bluntly, I don't get massively worked up because it wasn't actually attacking Brad as like typical white failure, white, It's just saying.
00:25:08.000 This is a welfare guy.
00:25:09.000 This is like a guy living off welfare, and we shouldn't have that.
00:25:11.000 So, we changed our rules.
00:25:13.000 And the person watching it decided to turn it into a giant racial attack on them.
00:25:20.000 And that's what the left does.
00:25:21.000 And we shouldn't be like the left, Sean.
00:25:24.000 Yeah.
00:25:24.000 So, I actually think it's a big, much bigger issue than that.
00:25:28.000 And look, they're among certain segments on the right.
00:25:32.000 We'll call them Boomer Cons.
00:25:33.000 They're generally wonderful people.
00:25:35.000 My parents are Boomer Cons.
00:25:36.000 My in laws, they're like the nicest, most wonderful people on earth.
00:25:40.000 Um, But there are a lot of people in that community who think the real problem in America right now and why socialism is becoming popular is because of brads.
00:25:50.000 It's just a bunch of brads sitting around and they just need to lift themselves up by their bootstraps and that'll fix the problems.
00:25:57.000 And it's just like a total wrong depiction of what the problems are in America.
00:26:02.000 We've had DEI for 20 years plus that has boxed white people out of the workforce, especially white men.
00:26:10.000 We've been importing tens of millions of people to replace them.
00:26:15.000 When that doesn't work, we will have idiotic wars where we ship them off to go fight for them.
00:26:21.000 And so you have a demographic here, which is white men.
00:26:23.000 It's like, wait a minute, I've done everything I was told to do and I was balked out of the economy.
00:26:28.000 And now you're making me the butt of the joke so that we can avoid talking about the real problem in America, which is that we have too many immigrants and we have too many people who aren't working.
00:26:37.000 I just, it looked to me like Sarah Huckabee, who I think is awesome and has done amazing work, is maybe doing a little too much BoomerCon fan service in the construction of her ads.
00:26:47.000 And I don't think we should be.
00:26:49.000 Criticized or made at fault because we noticed that she's doing exactly what she's doing.
00:26:53.000 I guess what I would say is we're currently dealing with now a news cycle where a Republican candidate, where we're demoralizing people and making people unhappy about a Republican candidate over a policy, over an ad promoting a policy that we support that doesn't actually contain within it any lies, any racial defamation.
00:27:13.000 Basically, we just decided to watch an ad and go, I feel aggrieved about the person they put in this ad.
00:27:20.000 And That's what I've just seen the left do all the time.
00:27:22.000 And it's like clearly a mentality that is dragging America down.
00:27:27.000 And that's how it feels to me.
00:27:29.000 I mean, the truth is, though, white men do get disproportionately stigmatized and satirized or whatever the word is because they're a safe target, right?
00:27:40.000 And that is really annoying, actually, as somebody who appreciates the contribution of white men in this country.
00:27:46.000 Another story here I want to show this is out of Rochester General Hospital in New York.
00:27:54.000 So throw the B roll up 157.
00:27:57.000 This is, okay.
00:27:59.000 Out of 82 resident doctors hired, 80 are foreign workers on H 1B or J 1 visas.
00:28:07.000 Only two are American.
00:28:09.000 98% of the resident slots went to visa workers, mostly from countries with documented USMLE cheating.
00:28:16.000 All right.
00:28:17.000 What is USMLE?
00:28:19.000 That is the United States Medical Licensing Examination.
00:28:23.000 It's a three step test requiring to get a medical license to practice medicine in the United States.
00:28:27.000 Step one test your understanding of basic science concepts.
00:28:31.000 Step two, clinical knowledge, test your ability to apply clinical science and patient care skills.
00:28:35.000 And step three, test your ability to manage patients independently.
00:28:38.000 Now, a lot of countries are scamming this, and it looks like this problem, Sean, is beyond just Rochester.
00:28:48.000 Look at this.
00:28:48.000 Throw up 158.
00:28:50.000 These are American residency programs.
00:28:53.000 The red bar is the red equals foreign resident doctors, gray are American doctors.
00:28:59.000 So, speaking of white men, Sean, it strikes me that.
00:29:02.000 In our popular culture, we have seen video after video, movie after movie, show after show, where you get this kindly, like, older white guy that's the doctor that comes in, tells you you're going to be healthy, tells you you got a problem, whatever.
00:29:16.000 That's the picture you have in your head, right?
00:29:18.000 Well, not anymore.
00:29:20.000 The image that people have in their head is that if I'm going to get like a CAT scan or a PET scan, it's going to be some like Indian doctor that came in, got a residency.
00:29:31.000 Like, what's going on here?
00:29:33.000 First of all, and I guess in a larger sense, should we be upset?
00:29:36.000 50 seconds and we'll take it into the next segment.
00:29:38.000 Yeah, so I think there's three things going on, especially in the medical industry.
00:29:42.000 One, there is a shortage of doctors, not for the reason you would expect.
00:29:47.000 It's because we're importing so many people who largely use emergency room care as their doctor that they're running out of capacity to deal with it.
00:29:54.000 So because we've imported so many people, we've decided we need to import a bunch of doctors as well to handle it, which is a kind of madness of its own.
00:30:02.000 There's the issue that the H1Bs, especially those who don't go to real medical Schools.
00:30:07.000 And I'm sorry if you're going to medical school overseas, it's not a real medical school.
00:30:11.000 You know, cry harder.
00:30:12.000 I don't care if that makes you mad.
00:30:15.000 So you can get the doctors for cheaper.
00:30:16.000 And then the third issue is that if you're here on an H 1B, it means you're basically indentured to that employer.
00:30:22.000 And when your entire business, especially in these large hospital groups, is getting billing up, you know what?
00:30:27.000 You might have some people who might be a little more ethically malleable and willing to do, I don't know, insurance and billing up codes to help the hospital out.
00:30:35.000 And to me, those three things explain this.
00:30:37.000 And it's a massive problem.
00:30:39.000 So, we've got another story that's like really bothering me, I have to say.
00:30:43.000 The story is out of the UK.
00:30:45.000 Let's go ahead and play SAT 18, and I'll explain why it's bothering me a lot.
00:30:49.000 It's a similar theme of what we're talking about, SAT 18.
00:30:52.000 There's new information now about that incident near an airbase in England.
00:30:55.000 Police arresting five for a suspected terror attack targeting an airbase used by the U.S. to strike Iran.
00:31:03.000 That's some of the video that came out on Sunday.
00:31:06.000 Fanford's the airbase.
00:31:07.000 All are British nationals, said to be in their 20s.
00:31:09.000 All right, so these are British nationals, Sean.
00:31:13.000 I'm assuming that we can rest assured that they are, you know, Christian young men, probably, you know, absolutely European heritage and all that sort of thing.
00:31:26.000 Or maybe not, because they're not bringing up the nationality.
00:31:29.000 It does feel like a theme here.
00:31:31.000 This is why I think all these stories are connected.
00:31:32.000 Sean, your thoughts.
00:31:33.000 Yeah, well, clearly it was a bunch of trucks full of brads that they caught there.
00:31:38.000 Surprise, some Swedish Lutheran separatists, obviously.
00:31:44.000 Yeah.
00:31:44.000 What I find fascinating is that I guess if you misgender someone or send like a mean tweet or damage a migrant's raft, that will get you thrown into the clink, like a lickety split in Britain.
00:31:57.000 But if you're plotting a terror attack near an Air Force base where America is conducting operations involved in an overseas war, we'll take you in, we'll give you a look over, and then we're going to bail you out.
00:32:09.000 They were literally bailed this morning.
00:32:12.000 And then you had the woman who found them.
00:32:13.000 Mind you, it wasn't long.
00:32:14.000 Enforcement or military who found them.
00:32:16.000 It was like a nearby farmer who said, Well, this seems odd, who saw like 10 of them.
00:32:21.000 And then I think only five got arrested.
00:32:23.000 And then they're now out on bail.
00:32:25.000 England, what are you doing?
00:32:28.000 What are you doing?
00:32:29.000 Yeah, I didn't realize they were already out on bail.
00:32:32.000 That's shocking, actually, because this was apparently a potential mass terrorism attack against a UK base, but targeting American forces as well.
00:32:41.000 So if I'm President Trump, I'm getting on the phone right now and I'm demanding a stiffer.
00:32:46.000 Jaw here from our Brits, British friends.
00:32:49.000 That's shocking.
00:32:50.000 Blake, you know, this brings up both the race issue but a national security concern when it comes to immigration.
00:32:58.000 I mean, my thoughts here are that Trump actually should get involved, the State Department should get involved, the military should get involved, but probably nothing's going to happen.
00:33:05.000 It's the UK.
00:33:06.000 Oh, almost certainly nothing will happen.
00:33:08.000 And we have stuff like this that's going to be happening in America more and more.
00:33:14.000 It's like a willful cluelessness that we've embraced about immigration that.
00:33:20.000 Forget when they say America is just an idea that anyone can embrace.
00:33:23.000 They say this about Britain, about France, about Germany, about all these places.
00:33:27.000 In a sense, we're lucky.
00:33:29.000 We're lucky that we share a border with a basically European civilization in Latin America.
00:33:34.000 So we get people who, whatever their problems, at least don't have a desire, this idea that they are conquering America on behalf of the Ummah to impose Islam.
00:33:45.000 Britain actually has that though.
00:33:47.000 They've brought in people from a bunch of very hostile places and.
00:33:52.000 It's wild.
00:33:53.000 Like we were mentioning, we have a bunch of immigrants who are on welfare.
00:33:56.000 But in Britain, you can show up in four or five years, basically qualify for lifetime welfare for yourself and a huge network of family members that you bring in.
00:34:07.000 So Britain is even crazier than you might imagine in that they have just brought in people, instantly put them on welfare, and just sat around waiting for them to think of an idea like, let's try to blow up U.S. planes at an airbase, let's try to blow up a pub, let's try to blow up a concert, let's go behead some infidels.
00:34:23.000 Just keeps happening there.
00:34:25.000 Their police services are infiltrated by people sympathetic with this.
00:34:29.000 It's absolutely deranged what that country has embraced.
00:34:33.000 And yeah, we actually, it's time to start having conversations like can we have a normal, functional military relationship with countries that don't take seriously the idea that they are importing the enemy that we're supposedly fighting overseas?
00:34:48.000 It's such a good point.
00:34:50.000 And Tyler, I want to bring you into this because this does have electoral consequences.
00:34:55.000 This does implicate the way that we.
00:34:57.000 Message about the midterms here.
00:34:59.000 So I've been talking with David Marcus.
00:35:01.000 He's a Fox News contributor.
00:35:03.000 He thinks that the leftist crazy is starting to emerge in the electorate.
00:35:08.000 So he's on the ground in Minnesota and Michigan.
00:35:10.000 He's talking to people.
00:35:11.000 He's saying that the leftist crazy factor, that they want to open our borders, that they are embracing guys like El Sayed and Hassan Piker, that that is starting to freak people out.
00:35:21.000 You look at the UK, the UK is somewhat like the ghost of Christmas future here.
00:35:26.000 Tyler, when we talk about messaging, you're talking to these voters, you're doing polling on them, you're hearing what's working.
00:35:33.000 What is working?
00:35:34.000 What is motivating people to get out?
00:35:35.000 Well, look, we have another parade of people marching towards the southern border right now.
00:35:43.000 So you have.
00:35:45.000 This is not just like a threat of five years ago.
00:35:49.000 This isn't a Joe Biden threat.
00:35:52.000 That's like a boogeyman.
00:35:54.000 This is legitimately happening right now where we have people wanting to just completely barrel over our border.
00:36:02.000 And we know this border is stronger today than it's ever been.
00:36:06.000 We have the most deportations, the most people being rejected at the border than have ever been.
00:36:13.000 And yet, still, There are people marching towards our southern border.
00:36:17.000 So, this isn't just an idea for voters that this is like, oh, well, maybe that will happen.
00:36:23.000 And, you know, maybe in the future, like after 2028, if, you know, that's why I should wake up.
00:36:28.000 It's happening right now.
00:36:31.000 And what do you think is going to happen if, again, what do you think is going to happen in this country if Hakeem Jeffries is speaker?
00:36:38.000 What, how do you, how do we think that's going to strengthen our ability to defend ourselves?
00:36:43.000 And so, voters are very much locked in on this when you have that very basic conversation with them.
00:36:49.000 That is an issue that they should be voting for here in 2026.
00:36:53.000 Sean, this is a story out of Newsweek.
00:36:55.000 It said that this caravan is about 600 large now.
00:36:59.000 They call it the Fe y Esperanza caravan, faith and hope.
00:37:04.000 And they're traveling north through Mexico in a caravan bound for the U.S. border, basically banking on the fact that Democrats are going to win in the midterms and they're going to have extra leverage to get in.
00:37:15.000 Your final thoughts here, last minute, Sean Davis.
00:37:17.000 Yeah, Tyler's totally correct.
00:37:20.000 You know, Democrats, they would be very happy right now to see us.
00:37:23.000 Dead, to see our homes dispossessed, to see our children trans, and to see all our money given to foreigners streaming across the border.
00:37:31.000 It's fascinating because we've heard all the arguments about how these poor foreigners, we have to give them sanctuary and refuge and asylum.
00:37:38.000 Well, if they're fleeing Honduras and they're just trying to get out of Honduras, the natural place to stop would be, I don't know, next to Honduras, not America.
00:37:47.000 You don't need to go all across Mexico unless you're actually coming here to take our money and take American opportunities for yourselves.
00:37:54.000 I think it's a political miscalculation on their part because Democrats might control Congress in a year, but Donald Trump's still going to be president.
00:38:01.000 He's not going to put up with any of that crap.
00:38:03.000 Circling back to Britain, same thing there.
00:38:05.000 Syrians who are next to Syria have all gone home with that civil war over.
00:38:09.000 The ones who don't go home, all the ones we let into the West temporarily, they're all still here.
00:38:14.000 Yeah.
00:38:16.000 Keep the invaders out, folks.
00:38:18.000 Vote Republican.
00:38:19.000 That's all I can say.
00:38:19.000 Sean Davis, God bless you, my friend.
00:38:21.000 We'll see you next time.
00:38:22.000 Thank you, sir.
00:38:26.000 I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend.
00:38:30.000 And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage, it was what was behind the scenes.
00:38:36.000 That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction.
00:38:46.000 Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize, he didn't put it in a box, he lived it out loud.
00:38:52.000 It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day.
00:38:57.000 Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, captures that heart.
00:39:00.000 This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie.
00:39:03.000 It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested.
00:39:11.000 I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together.
00:39:16.000 Go to angel.comslash Kirk.
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00:39:31.000 We got Blake holding it down in Phoenix.
00:39:34.000 I'm here in our nation's capital.
00:39:36.000 Honored to be with all of you.
00:39:37.000 Blake's got my mic flag, but just for a day.
00:39:40.000 He's got his own.
00:39:41.000 I don't know why he feels like he needs to take mine back, but that's fine.
00:39:45.000 We got a real treat for you in store here.
00:39:47.000 Hour two is getting off started with a bang, and that is with Kevin Sorbo, actor, director, producer, author.
00:39:54.000 He's one of the brave men in Hollywood that has chosen to speak out and make his values known, not hide them under a bushel, as it were.
00:40:04.000 And he stars in the Reagan movie, and they have a new.
00:40:08.000 Version of it out in theaters to celebrate America 250 with new scenes and all of that.
00:40:13.000 Without further ado, Kevin Sorbo, welcome to the show, sir.
00:40:16.000 It's great to see you and congratulations on the re release of Reagan.
00:40:20.000 Yeah, awesome to have you.
00:40:22.000 By the way, if anybody does not follow Kevin Sorbo on X, you are missing out.
00:40:27.000 You're like, I mean, you let it rip, man.
00:40:31.000 You have a lot to say and you say it with your chest, and I love that about you.
00:40:35.000 So welcome to the show and again.
00:40:38.000 Sorry, guys.
00:40:39.000 It's truthful, but it's a little sarcastic truth ripped in there as well because they're so easy to trigger on the left with a little bit of truth, which is amazing to me that we've come to this point in our lives where we have half the white females between the ages of 20 and 45 think it's okay that men compete in women's sports and things like that.
00:41:00.000 It's absolutely crazy what this is.
00:41:02.000 10 years ago, there's so many things, so many subjects I never thought we'd be talking about today.
00:41:06.000 Well, think about your time when you started in Hollywood.
00:41:09.000 Kevin, and how much the country has changed, how much popular culture has changed and normalized that is completely insane.
00:41:16.000 Maybe just start there.
00:41:17.000 Like, you know, tell what was Hollywood like then versus what it's like now, and how much crazier is it?
00:41:25.000 Is it always been this crazy or not?
00:41:29.000 Not even close.
00:41:30.000 Not even close.
00:41:31.000 When I moved out there in 1986 to pursue the actor's dream, I already started through my college years in the late 70s, early 80s, but I was already doing a lot of work.
00:41:40.000 commercial work.
00:41:41.000 I got that SAG card, that all important screen actors guild card, moved to LA.
00:41:46.000 I started working right away into commercial work.
00:41:48.000 I'm one of the few people I know that never had to work another job.
00:41:51.000 I wasn't bartending.
00:41:52.000 I had buddies selling cars.
00:41:53.000 I had buddies being waiters, whatever.
00:41:55.000 I shot over 100 commercials and started doing a lot of guest spots on different shows before I got my big break in 1993 on Hercules.
00:42:02.000 But prior to that, you could talk, you could be opposite sides on politics, religions, whatever.
00:42:10.000 And people didn't want to kill you for it.
00:42:12.000 People, you know, we talk about it.
00:42:13.000 Maybe you get a little ribbing if you wanted to vote that way or wanted to vote this way, but you could still go on a set and not feel threatened in any way.
00:42:20.000 And then I really think that I got to point to the Obama years.
00:42:25.000 I think it started changing a little bit before that, but he accelerated it.
00:42:28.000 I mean, I didn't even think about racism.
00:42:30.000 I think most people don't think about racism anymore.
00:42:31.000 He kind of brought it to the forefront because I don't think, is it out there?
00:42:35.000 It's out there, but it doesn't matter what color you are.
00:42:37.000 There's racism on all colors and to some degree.
00:42:39.000 So I'm not going to name some black actors I know in Hollywood.
00:42:43.000 I'm sorry.
00:42:44.000 African American.
00:42:45.000 I'm Norwegian American.
00:42:46.000 So I thought we were all Americans, but I got to joke the fact that I'm second generation Norwegian.
00:42:51.000 Where are my rights?
00:42:52.000 So I just laugh at craziness what's been going on in the world.
00:42:56.000 And I'm just fighting back.
00:42:58.000 I mean, God bless you for that.
00:42:59.000 And you're in this movie, Reagan, which I know was, you know, it was a labor of love, right, from the creators of this film.
00:43:09.000 It took a while to get this done because it was such a labor of love.
00:43:15.000 And Reagan, you know, it's interesting.
00:43:17.000 I think about Reagan, Kevin, and I think a lot of our audience probably doesn't know much about Reagan as president.
00:43:24.000 They don't know what the details of the Reagan years were really like.
00:43:28.000 Our students at Turning Point, they have no idea.
00:43:31.000 About Reagan at all, right?
00:43:32.000 Maybe just they've seen some of the clips.
00:43:35.000 What do you think is most important when you're looking back at the years of Reagan?
00:43:39.000 What do you think is the most important thing that you would want some of our turning point students to know about his life?
00:43:44.000 Well, number one, then we got to point at the failing of public schools and universities.
00:43:49.000 Let's face it, they don't teach civics in school anymore because they don't want people to realize it's we the people.
00:43:54.000 They don't teach history.
00:43:55.000 When I was in high school, I was taking Russian studies, Far Eastern studies, and American history, I was taking all those courses.
00:44:01.000 They don't teach that stuff anymore.
00:44:02.000 And if they're going to teach history at all in America, they want to rewrite it, as you know.
00:44:05.000 They want to change it.
00:44:07.000 And it's unfortunate.
00:44:08.000 But the first president I could vote for was 1980.
00:44:12.000 I voted for Reagan.
00:44:13.000 When I was 18, I was able to finally vote.
00:44:15.000 My parents were beside themselves because they grew up as Walter Mondale, Hubert Humphrey Democrats in the state of Minnesota, which, by the way, my old state of Minnesota is trying to turn into California to become the worst political state in the country, which is just so bizarre to me.
00:44:29.000 You know how to pick them, Kevin.
00:44:31.000 Yeah.
00:44:32.000 I know.
00:44:33.000 No, I escaped California eight years ago.
00:44:36.000 I left the worst governor for the best governor.
00:44:38.000 I live in the free state of Florida, so I'm in the prettiest spot.
00:44:42.000 You better get Byron Donalds over the finish line.
00:44:45.000 It's a little closer than we like, Kevin, down there.
00:44:48.000 I think it's going to turn out just fine.
00:44:50.000 It's going to turn out just fine.
00:44:52.000 I actually did a keynote.
00:44:53.000 I did the opening keynote in Chicago, and DeSantis got to be the opener for Governor DeSantis, and we just had a good time.
00:45:00.000 We were just there two weeks ago.
00:45:02.000 Good.
00:45:03.000 So let's play a clip from this Reagan with the new scenes released.
00:45:08.000 Here you go.
00:45:09.000 This is you starring in it, Kevin.
00:45:10.000 We're going to play that one.
00:45:11.000 Stop three.
00:45:13.000 The boy finds God, and he is elected to the American Congress.
00:45:19.000 Well, you have to be 12.
00:45:21.000 And you go through membership and confirmation class.
00:45:24.000 I know that, sir.
00:45:27.000 But it has to be now.
00:45:29.000 I read the book, and I want to be like that man.
00:45:44.000 Ronald Wilson Reagan, I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
00:45:55.000 Wow.
00:45:56.000 Is that based on actually how Reagan wanted it done?
00:46:00.000 He wanted to be baptized like right away?
00:46:02.000 Yeah, like before, I mean, he grew up in the Catholic faith, and I think he got away to, I don't know, 15, 16.
00:46:07.000 He was only 12 or 13, and he was adamant about getting baptized now.
00:46:11.000 He felt that he needed to be, had to be.
00:46:12.000 And I got to play Pastor Cleaver, who was very instrumental in his earlier life.
00:46:17.000 Through not only his early teenage years and into his high school and college years as well.
00:46:21.000 So he obviously never got to see the chance of what happened with Reagan becoming president because he passed many years before that.
00:46:29.000 But he was very instrumental in what he believed.
00:46:33.000 And the pastor, we found a bunch of amazing old sermons that he did back at that time.
00:46:40.000 And he preached against communism.
00:46:42.000 So you can't say that that did have some kind of influence on Ronald Reagan and fighting the communist Russia regime at that time.
00:46:50.000 That's fascinating to me because we just had the beatification of Fulton Sheen.
00:46:54.000 Blake and I covered this last week.
00:46:57.000 And Fulton Sheen was in the same mold in that sense.
00:47:01.000 He was preaching fiery sermons against communism, the godlessness of communism.
00:47:07.000 And then you think about what we've done at TPUSA Faith.
00:47:09.000 Charlie started TPUSA Faith because he wanted the church to get back into the public square.
00:47:16.000 He believed we'd ceded that terrain to people that didn't share our values, that didn't share our vision for the future, didn't share our faith, and that it became a void.
00:47:25.000 A void that was filled by bad actors.
00:47:27.000 And I know you've been working with us at TPSA Faith as well.
00:47:30.000 I want to talk to you about why you've made that a priority, why you've partnered with us on that.
00:47:35.000 And it's just powerful this time with Reagan bringing this movie back with additional scenes for the 250.
00:47:45.000 These United States are confronted with an affliction of great proportions.
00:47:50.000 For those who've abandoned hope, we'll welcome them into a great national crusade to make America great again.
00:47:57.000 Make America not only stronger but better with courage and compassion.
00:48:02.000 We have the chance to do more than ever before in our history to make life better in America.
00:48:06.000 We will make the hard choices, make a difference, make kinder the face of the nation.
00:48:14.000 We can make it better.
00:48:15.000 As patriots who love America and are willing to work tirelessly to make this country better, I believe that together we can make America great again.
00:48:26.000 Make our country great once again.
00:48:27.000 Make this country great again.
00:48:29.000 We will make America.
00:48:31.000 Great again.
00:48:34.000 And together we can make America great again.
00:48:40.000 Reagan is back out in theaters.
00:48:42.000 Kevin, what's the marching orders here?
00:48:44.000 How do people go and find a theater that they can watch this in?
00:48:47.000 Because I think it really should be seen in an actual theater.
00:48:49.000 I'm hoping they gave you that information too, but I hope they gave the information too.
00:48:52.000 But isn't Reagan.movie or something like that?
00:48:55.000 Do you have that information?
00:48:56.000 We're going to find that information.
00:48:57.000 Because they never, I think locations at Reagan.movie.
00:49:02.000 Is what I was given here.
00:49:04.000 That's all I can tell you.
00:49:05.000 But I love that clip you just showed.
00:49:07.000 That works.
00:49:08.000 That is Reagan.movie.
00:49:10.000 Reagan.movie.
00:49:11.000 There it is.
00:49:12.000 Love it.
00:49:13.000 Our team had it.
00:49:15.000 Because everybody says it was President Trump that started the whole thing.
00:49:21.000 Started back with Jimmy Carter.
00:49:23.000 Every one of these presidents, whether Democrat or Republican, they all said the same thing make America great again.
00:49:28.000 And now because Trump said it, now it's become a term that's just, oh, it's just kryptonite to the people on the left.
00:49:34.000 It's just, it's so comical the hypocrisy in these people.
00:49:37.000 Oh, man.
00:49:38.000 I totally agree.
00:49:39.000 And listen, you know, Reagan is a guy who, Blake, I'd love your historical perspective on this.
00:49:46.000 You know, how does he stand up to history?
00:49:50.000 How does his presidency stand up?
00:49:51.000 Well, what's interesting, you and I know that there's been a lot of debate on specific policies of his, how much, how did they last?
00:49:58.000 But I think the most important value you get from Reagan, and the reason a lot of people remember him so fondly, is beyond just policies, it's that sense of national vibe that Reagan becomes president.
00:50:12.000 Right at the start of the 80s, what is the previous 16 years in America?
00:50:16.000 It's the years of Vietnam, it's the years of hippies wrecking college campuses, big urban riots, deindustrialization, people getting cleared out of cities because crime gets absolutely out of control.
00:50:29.000 It's sort of you might call it proto wokeness, if you are America's first big woke spree, and it created this powerful sense of America in decline, that America was falling apart, was going off of the rails.
00:50:42.000 You get all of this depressing stuff in the 60s and 70s that reflects that.
00:50:46.000 And Reagan, one of the things that people remember most fondly is that he has this incredibly positive, sunny, and patriotic disposition.
00:50:56.000 And that's why even him getting baptized in that scene, one thing that matters is that Reagan is a guy who's very, he's not necessarily, he's not like Charlie, where he can powerfully talk about the Bible as a doctrinaire Christian.
00:51:09.000 But what he is is he's very pro Christianity as this binding national identity for us.
00:51:16.000 And Reagan came out and said, It's morning in America.
00:51:19.000 America is.
00:51:20.000 Can do well, can be great, can be successful.
00:51:23.000 And in that span, we had a major economic surge in America.
00:51:27.000 We had sort of, we go and we win the Cold War.
00:51:30.000 We turn back the tide against this sweeping leftism that's spreading everywhere like a poison.
00:51:35.000 And I think that's the most valuable thing to remember about America that we've gone through these eras of things looking really bad before.
00:51:43.000 And a leader changes the psychology of the whole country in a way that everyone found inspiring.
00:51:48.000 I agree.
00:51:49.000 I mean, I look at the guy, what he did in terms, he perfectly brought up, I mean, he brought down communism.
00:51:53.000 He did.
00:51:53.000 Brought down the wall and all those countries that under under the Russian rule, under the Soviet rule for 50, 60 years, all of a sudden could get back their own countries and vote for their own people.
00:52:04.000 And um it's, you know, and he was charismatic.
00:52:07.000 The guy was a great speaker.
00:52:09.000 He was funny as hell.
00:52:10.000 They call him the great uh Orator or whatever it was, but uh, he was amazing in what he did.
00:52:15.000 Look, I do a lot of pro-life speaking.
00:52:17.000 I bring up one of those quotes all the time.
00:52:18.000 He said i'm, he goes.
00:52:20.000 I'm always amazed that all the people that are for abortion have already been born and I thought that was just so brilliant to say something like that, just to go after these people and the idiocy of, once again, of what they do.
00:52:31.000 So um, you know, when I voted for him, like I said, my parents couldn't believe I wouldn't vote for Carter.
00:52:35.000 Nice i'm, i'm 18, i'm going.
00:52:37.000 Look, Carter's going to go down as the worst president this country's ever had.
00:52:40.000 I was right until Obama and uh and Biden came along.
00:52:43.000 So um, I think it's.
00:52:45.000 Uh look, like I said, I speak my mind.
00:52:48.000 Hollywood kicked me out back 10 years ago.
00:52:50.000 They said they don't want to work with me anymore.
00:52:52.000 So my wife and I formed Sorbo Studios.
00:52:54.000 Go to Sorbostudios.com and you can see all the great movies we're doing.
00:52:58.000 Because we're doing movies that Hollywood used to do One like Reagan, movies that have love and hope and faith and redemption and laughter, because Hollywood's not doing that.
00:53:07.000 And I'm trying to fill that void.
00:53:08.000 They lost their sense of humor.
00:53:10.000 They lost their sense of humor.
00:53:11.000 To Blake's point, all the things that Reagan took us out of, and yeah, you could quibble about the amnesty, you could quibble about the spending, of course, but Blake's point is apt that the big takeaway from Reagan is that a singular leader can change the psychology of a nation, the way it views itself, and to pull us out of this liberal malaise of this slow slide into socialism.
00:53:34.000 The question is, Kevin, you were in Hollywood in the 80s.
00:53:37.000 You witnessed Reagan firsthand, and you are still fighting for this country.
00:53:43.000 Can we do it again?
00:53:44.000 Yeah, I think the ship is turning.
00:53:46.000 It takes a long time to do it, but things are changing.
00:53:47.000 It's even changing within Hollywood, which I think is pretty good.
00:53:50.000 And they're not going to do it overnight, but they have reached out, and they're asking for scripts that have better messages in them.
00:53:57.000 I mean, they seem to fall back in the same pattern of just doing a lot of CGI movies and moving to more AI movies now.
00:54:04.000 To me, I call them actors' movies, and that's what I've been blessed to do with movies like God's Not Dead and Let There Be Light and Miracle in East Texas.
00:54:13.000 I'm going to keep making movies that have a positive impact on people.
00:54:15.000 I get stopped all the time.
00:54:17.000 People don't talk.
00:54:17.000 I mean, here I was on the most watched show in the world for seven years.
00:54:20.000 I played Hercules on TV in the 90s.
00:54:22.000 People don't stop me for that anymore.
00:54:24.000 They stop because of the faith and family movies I do.
00:54:27.000 And to me, that is far more important to me than anything else I've been part of.
00:54:30.000 So I've been very blessed to be able to do these kind of movies that have a positive impact on people.
00:54:35.000 Yeah, and where it gives us the URL one more time, Kevin, where people can follow you, follow your work, Reagan, as well as the other projects you're working on.
00:54:43.000 Sorbostudios.com.
00:54:44.000 Just go Sorbo, my last name, Studios.
00:54:46.000 You all know what that is.com.
00:54:47.000 A lot of information on there.
00:54:49.000 Like a third of it is on my wife's stuff, a third of it is my stuff, and the other third is both of our things together because we work a lot together.
00:54:55.000 So there's a lot of great information on that.
00:54:57.000 In fact, my wife and I are hosting a trip to Greece next year.
00:55:00.000 I hope people sign up because we're going to walk in the footsteps of the Apostle Paul.
00:55:04.000 And I do want to say one quick story when I first met Charlie.
00:55:06.000 I met Charlie when he was 21.
00:55:08.000 He and I were both speaking.
00:55:09.000 At an event in Steamboat Springs and he was speaking before me and I looked at my wife and I said I got to follow this kid.
00:55:15.000 Are you kidding me?
00:55:16.000 I said let me speak first, you know.
00:55:18.000 But uh um, it's amazing what he's done and what he did.
00:55:22.000 And all he did was give people a voice and he did it with intelligence and love and kindness and they killed him.
00:55:28.000 And it's just, it's still shocking me.
00:55:29.000 Last time I saw him was about probably about six months before he was assassinated at Mar-a-la-go, and had a quick couple words with him.
00:55:36.000 But you know he's getting pulled in every direction, but uh, it was good to see him again and it's uh, it's a tragedy what happened there.
00:55:42.000 But god bless you guys for keeping this thing going.
00:55:44.000 Thanks, Kevin.
00:55:45.000 God bless you.
00:55:45.000 You have more staying power than just about any other actor in Hollywood, and probably because they kicked you out.
00:55:51.000 So, God works in mysterious ways.
00:55:53.000 Thank you, Kevin Sorbo.
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00:57:41.000 All right.
00:57:41.000 Next up is Kenneth Shrupp.
00:57:43.000 He's an investigative journalist with City Journal.
00:57:46.000 One of the great, by the way, Blake will attest City Journal is an absolute natural person.
00:57:50.000 Tremendous work.
00:57:51.000 Absolutely tremendous work.
00:57:53.000 Thank you so much.
00:57:53.000 We don't have enough good.
00:57:55.000 Yeah.
00:57:55.000 Well, Kenneth, yeah, welcome.
00:57:57.000 Welcome to the show.
00:57:58.000 Good to see you.
00:57:59.000 This is a bombshell.
00:58:01.000 You took over the news cycle and social media.
00:58:04.000 Over the like, I guess, end of last week, over the weekend, and it really is terrifying, right?
00:58:11.000 So, you say California shadow welfare system for illegal immigrants, and I have some first hand experience that maybe I'll get a chance to share at some point.
00:58:18.000 But tell us what your reporting uncovered.
00:58:21.000 Well, we went undercover and spoke to welfare officers across Southern California.
00:58:26.000 We found a large number of these programs where you can sign up without being a citizen, including those where you cannot be a citizen.
00:58:33.000 And altogether, we know there's a minimum floor of about 11 billion dollars a year being spent.
00:58:37.000 That's just on Medi Cal, though.
00:58:39.000 The state Medicaid program for illegal immigrants.
00:58:42.000 If we combine all the sources together for a model family of five, which has two illegal immigrant adults, an illegal grandparent, and two U.S. born children, you're looking at cash and benefits of over $100,000 a year.
00:58:56.000 So for $100,000, what are the major sources of that?
00:59:00.000 I imagine free health care.
00:59:02.000 Do you break it out, what those amounts are coming from?
00:59:05.000 Right.
00:59:06.000 So there's one program called the Cash Assistance Program for immigrants.
00:59:10.000 It replaces SSI or disability for Elderly or disabled, non citizens, that's about $14,000 a year.
00:59:18.000 Of course, medical is a substantial amount of that, but you also have the benefits that are claimed on behalf of the U.S. born children.
00:59:26.000 We have also food stamps, we have Section 8, and even we have cell phone plans with free cell phones, free cell phone plans where you can sign up using a Mexican consular ID.
00:59:37.000 Food stamps for people over 55 who are illegally are starting in October of next year, and the spending is only set to continue growing.
00:59:48.000 I'm just, I'm looking at some of the facts in this, and I was doing a bit of math.
00:59:51.000 You estimate in the article that they're spending more than $11 billion a year subsidizing illegal immigrants, at least.
01:00:00.000 So I ran the numbers.
01:00:01.000 That's about $278 for every person in California.
01:00:05.000 If you take out the illegals, it's over $300.
01:00:10.000 I estimated about 3% of all of the state's tax revenue is specifically going into just those programs earmarked for illegals.
01:00:17.000 And that's, again, not getting into.
01:00:20.000 Anything else that's harder to track, the spending to do law enforcement for them, to provide education for their kids who probably need a lot more work.
01:00:27.000 The amount of money that's funneled into this is truly staggering.
01:00:31.000 Right.
01:00:31.000 It's astronomical and it's only going to continue growing as we expand these programs.
01:00:36.000 Remember, like the cell phone plan that we're talking about, Governor Newsom decided to eliminate the social security number requirement.
01:00:43.000 Naturally, what comes from that is anyone can go ahead and sign up, no matter whether they're here legally or not.
01:00:50.000 And right now, we see more discussions about extending the right to vote, even.
01:00:55.000 Santa Ana, which is one of the most populous cities in California, had a measure that was advancing, ultimately failed, that would have allowed illegal immigrants to vote not just in school board elections, but in all local elections.
01:01:06.000 So, city council, mayor, that would be open to everyone.
01:01:10.000 That's, yeah, I mean, and this is a trend we're seeing across the board, and especially blue enclaves, where they are devaluing the citizenship of Americans, that they are diluting our voice and our share of the vote.
01:01:25.000 I have a personal experience with this.
01:01:27.000 I can actually give some meat to the bones here.
01:01:29.000 You know, my wife and I, when we had our youngest child, we noticed at the hospital that there was a legal couple having kids there.
01:01:39.000 We didn't know they were legal, but their kid came premature.
01:01:43.000 I ended up running into this individual on the street, and out of a sense of compassion for my fellow man, I was trying to just care about them.
01:01:51.000 I assumed they were hard pressed economically.
01:01:54.000 My wife and I tried to offer to help them, and they informed us.
01:01:59.000 That they were completely subsidized by the state, that everything was paid for, and that they were actually getting care for that kid.
01:02:07.000 That kid was getting free health insurance.
01:02:09.000 That kid was getting the entire hospital bill paid for.
01:02:13.000 And he was like, Oh, yeah, there was somebody at the hospital there that filled out all the paperwork for us, and we got it all for free.
01:02:18.000 So we're okay.
01:02:18.000 No big deal.
01:02:19.000 And I was like, Wait, so I had to pay my full deductible.
01:02:23.000 I had to pay my insurance.
01:02:25.000 I had to pay for everything thereafter.
01:02:27.000 I have to pay for insurance for the kids for the rest of their lives.
01:02:31.000 And this illegal immigrant, who I wanted to help, by the way, I was trying to be nice to him because I just, their kid was born premature.
01:02:37.000 I just had a heart for him.
01:02:39.000 And he got everything paid for.
01:02:42.000 So this is now the rule.
01:02:44.000 This is not the exception.
01:02:45.000 This is the rule and the norm in the state of California.
01:02:47.000 Am I basically accurate in that assessment?
01:02:49.000 You're right.
01:02:50.000 So a family in California to get that $100,000 or so in benefits would have to make about $160,000 a year or more to buy these services for themselves in the private market.
01:03:00.000 And remember, Americans pay taxes, but a lot of people who are here illegally are working under the table.
01:03:05.000 They're not paying any taxes into a lot of what they earn.
01:03:08.000 And so if you have to make $160,000, but someone can come here, report zero income, and get everything paid for, that just doesn't seem fair.
01:03:15.000 But to your point, though, on this hospital and emergency room situation, this is something happening all across the country because the federal government does reimburse for emergency and pregnancy related care for people here illegally.
01:03:30.000 That's such a valid and terrifying thought because we know.
01:03:35.000 For example, that illegal immigrants, new immigrants, whether they're legal or not, tend to overutilize the emergency room and emergency services.
01:03:45.000 And the federal government does reimburse for this.
01:03:47.000 I mean, do you guys have a plan for where you're going to investigate next?
01:03:52.000 Is that something you're looking into?
01:03:53.000 I mean, I can only imagine that if you extrapolate that across the 50 states, the bill that the federal government is fronted with has got to be enormous when we just consider that bill alone.
01:04:07.000 I have looked into it.
01:04:08.000 I have that number elsewhere, but I have to say my focus is on California, and you'll have a great time seeing what we come out with next on this.
01:04:15.000 Oh, my goodness.
01:04:16.000 It's just remarkable to read this, and you think about what a travesty it is.
01:04:20.000 We know so many people who grew up in California, they left, they get depressed about it because California was basically paradise for the entire 20th century.
01:04:30.000 And I think about the fact what's one of the biggest issues we have going right now?
01:04:35.000 It's AI.
01:04:36.000 That AI boom is centered in California, which you'd think would mean.
01:04:39.000 Tons of people must be moving in there.
01:04:41.000 They want to go there where there's this big industry that's making a ton of people rich.
01:04:45.000 And no, California has messed itself up so badly that the middle class just can't stop leaving because it's become this sucker's game.
01:04:54.000 California is a state for the very rich who don't need to worry about this and the very poor who are getting everything for free.
01:05:01.000 If you're a person who's trying to get by on $85,000, $100,000, even $250,000 a year, which we think of as a nice upper middle class income, You're just getting destroyed in California by every.
01:05:15.000 You have to pay for every tax.
01:05:16.000 You have to pay every form of tuition.
01:05:18.000 You have to pay for every single thing.
01:05:20.000 And then, yeah, a family of five, three of them illegal, $100,000 a year.
01:05:25.000 They get free healthcare, free education, free food, free smartphone, free everything.
01:05:31.000 As the joke goes, you have these Democrat socialists who are saying, I want to provide free this or that.
01:05:36.000 And if you're an illegal, that's already free.
01:05:39.000 Exactly.
01:05:39.000 It's definitely a K shaped economy here.
01:05:42.000 And people who are middle class, as you said, they are just leaving for other safes.
01:05:46.000 They're leaving for Arizona, they're leaving for Texas and Florida.
01:05:49.000 And it doesn't seem like that's going to change anytime soon.
01:05:53.000 You have people who are completely post economic and people who are entirely reliant on the government.
01:05:57.000 And that seems to be where things are heading.
01:05:59.000 One of the funniest things, Andrew, this went viral the other day.
01:06:03.000 This is a tweet all the way from December of last year, but it went viral recently.
01:06:07.000 Ezra Klein, big thought leader on the left, he came up with this whole abundance thing, and he literally tweeted this verbatim back in December.
01:06:14.000 President Trump often lies about Democrats giving health care to undocumented immigrants.
01:06:20.000 In California, Gavin Newsom actually did it and defends it.
01:06:24.000 President Trump lies that the left, the Democrats, are giving all this free stuff to illegals, except for the fact that they do it.
01:06:32.000 Two sentences right in a row.
01:06:35.000 This is actually a really important part of your story.
01:06:38.000 You say, How is this all possible?
01:06:39.000 Federal law generally prohibits states from using federal dollars to serve illegal aliens.
01:06:44.000 To dodge those restrictions, California created parallel state and locally funded programs that allowed the state to extend benefits to illegal immigrants.
01:06:54.000 Perhaps as a result, more than one in four California residents today is foreign born, which is, it should just boggle the mind to consider that.
01:07:05.000 The people of California elected these people to use their taxpayers to do this.
01:07:10.000 This is their value set.
01:07:11.000 Or do you think that it's not and they just don't understand what's happening?
01:07:15.000 I like to think of it as if you bring up each of these programs one by one to a California voter, I think they'll think each of them is a good idea, right?
01:07:22.000 That people deserve health care, people deserve food.
01:07:26.000 They want to vote for that and that's what they continue to support.
01:07:29.000 But no one's really ever brought them the full cost.
01:07:32.000 When you combine it all together, you now have a wraparound services.
01:07:36.000 Plus cash available to people who simply show up here.
01:07:39.000 And I think they have not seen those numbers, and this is why we wrote this piece.
01:07:44.000 I hope you're right.
01:07:45.000 Because, I mean, you're talking Medicaid, you know, federal law prohibits states from using federal dollars to provide wraparound coverage to illegal immigrants.
01:07:54.000 So California used a state funding bucket with its Medi Cal program to extend full scope coverage to illegal aliens.
01:08:02.000 The expansion enrolled 1.7 million people.
01:08:07.000 1.7 million illegals covered on this.
01:08:10.000 This workaround, this parallel welfare state program out of California costing $10 billion annually.
01:08:19.000 Kenneth, this part is crazy to me.
01:08:22.000 So, CAPI, apparently, which is the state cash assistance for elderly disabled, says, They're saying the quiet part out loud.
01:08:32.000 This is what's nuts.
01:08:33.000 If you are a citizen, you cannot get CAPI or CAPI.
01:08:38.000 I don't care about legal or not.
01:08:40.000 Not being a citizen is the key.
01:08:43.000 So we've gone from, you know, sort of shielding illegals from the Gestapo ICE to actually privileging them, benefiting them, preferring them.
01:08:53.000 What explain the, I guess, explain the rules and what do you think is behind this?
01:08:59.000 I think people realize that they want to create these programs for people who are not citizens and they went around the federal prohibition by creating the state funded bucket of money for this.
01:09:11.000 I want to bring this more into more concrete terms though.
01:09:13.000 I think we need to look at some of the reporting we did a few months back where we found a homeless illegal immigrant who had come to San Francisco from Central America and received taxpayer funded breast implants to transition from being a man to being a woman.
01:09:30.000 Jeez.
01:09:31.000 I remember that story.
01:09:32.000 I do remember that story.
01:09:34.000 I think we had Chris on about it.
01:09:36.000 So they're funding this at the state level, they're creating special carve outs to get around federal bans.
01:09:43.000 That said, is there any way that the Trump administration could pressure them on that?
01:09:50.000 It just feels on some level that taking a bunch of taxpayer money to specifically redirect it to give to people who are illegally in the country and not supposed to be here, it's got to have some potential to be breaking some law, some policy.
01:10:07.000 Could they get retribution and cut off the supply of some taxpayer funded program?
01:10:12.000 Is there anything the administration can do besides complain about it?
01:10:16.000 Right, I'll separate this into administrative and more congressional level actions.
01:10:20.000 Administratively, CMS under Dr. Oz has been clawing back funds from California that it is illegally spending on people who are illegal immigrants.
01:10:29.000 Number two is HUD under Secretary Turner is trying to amend the Section 8 program so that mixed status families, that is, families of people who are in this country illegally, are not able to get any Section 8 benefits at all, so that the people who are receiving Section 8 are people who are all eligible for the program.
01:10:49.000 But when we look at the congressional side, of course, Congress has the ability to act in case any of these are thrown out by judges.
01:10:57.000 We see judges try to stop the homelessness overhauls that the Trump administration is going for.
01:11:03.000 Executive orders can all be overturned if Congress decides it wants to stop funding these programs that go to illegal immigrants.
01:11:10.000 Yeah, you know what's interesting here is according to CalWORKS, an illegal parent, this is from your reporting, with a citizen child, so again, we go back to birthright citizenship, they get money for.
01:11:22.000 The child only.
01:11:23.000 You get two children, you get money for two.
01:11:26.000 So you're essentially incentivizing illegal immigrants to have more and more anchor babies because they get more money.
01:11:34.000 So the knock on effects of when the Supreme Court blocks Trump's executive order stopping anchor babies or birthright citizenship, the knock on effects is that blue states like California will incentivize more U.S. born babies.
01:11:49.000 That's right.
01:11:49.000 And the biggest anchor baby programs that we see are Section A. Food stamps, CalWORKS, TAMF, which is for low income families.
01:11:58.000 The list goes on and on.
01:11:59.000 And yes, it is encouraging a lot of people to come here illegally and to have children.
01:12:04.000 And eventually they can be sponsors for eventual green cards or citizenship as well.
01:12:10.000 Gosh, that's so frustrating.
01:12:11.000 I mean, I'd like to know what our audience thinks.
01:12:14.000 Send us your emails freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
01:12:18.000 It just is so frustrating to me because this is just such a pristine example of the problem we've seen over and over again on.
01:12:26.000 On criminal justice, on the trans issue, and here, which is you can go to a voter and say the left, they are taking money to directly fund it to illegals to give them free everything.
01:12:39.000 They can get a free cell phone, they can get free breast implants, they can get free tuition.
01:12:44.000 They've made a program that is called Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants, and it is illegal to receive it if you are a U.S. citizen.
01:12:51.000 They are changing laws so that you are less likely to be deported if you commit crimes.
01:12:57.000 They will Revoke your charges just to make sure a criminal can stay here.
01:13:01.000 And a person will hear all of this and they will just not believe you because it is too loopy.
01:13:07.000 And we just see that over and over again.
01:13:09.000 And it's so infuriating that the left gets to this benefit of being so nuts that an ordinary person just decides not to believe the things they're doing every single day.
01:13:20.000 Right.
01:13:20.000 A regular suburban voter is not going to hear what's happening in California and believe it's real.
01:13:25.000 They think it's a right wing talking point, but this is happening.
01:13:28.000 And that's why our reporting here is so important.
01:13:30.000 Yeah.
01:13:30.000 And I'm so glad you're going to continue on with it.
01:13:32.000 I can't wait to see what you guys come up with because the City Journal, you guys are doing great work.
01:13:36.000 It's important work.
01:13:39.000 And you brought up this fact that middle class.
01:13:42.000 Californians are really getting squeezed.
01:13:44.000 And I think it's so important as somebody who used to live in that state, there is this feeling like you kind of can't get above a certain threshold because they're just going to tax you back down, right?
01:13:53.000 Even if you have a good earnings year, they're going to tax you 13.3%.
01:13:57.000 You're going to feel it, plus federal taxes, plus state and local.
01:14:00.000 And it does keep you, it puts a ceiling on your ability to sort of get ahead in financial independence, which is not the American way.
01:14:08.000 And this closing line, Kenneth, is so powerful.
01:14:12.000 I just, it's so powerful.
01:14:13.000 I want to read it verbatim.
01:14:14.000 You say, in other states, Citizenship determines who qualifies.
01:14:19.000 In California, it merely determines who pays.
01:14:24.000 That's the California way.
01:14:26.000 If you are a citizen and you're middle class, that just means they get to bilk you for all the money to pay for the illegals.
01:14:31.000 That's essentially the exchange you're making.
01:14:33.000 Final thoughts, Kenneth.
01:14:34.000 California dream used to be you could work hard, buy your own home, and send your kids to a good school.
01:14:40.000 Now you have to become a millionaire to afford a basic single family home.
01:14:44.000 You may or may not get that pool anymore, and you'll have to spend to pay.
01:14:48.000 To send your kids to private school.
01:14:50.000 Meanwhile, someone can show up here and start getting all of those for free while you're still paying for it.
01:14:55.000 That's not fair.
01:14:56.000 Unfortunately, the California dream is now to come up and pick up welfare.
01:15:00.000 Kenneth Schrupp, this is powerful stuff.
01:15:02.000 When can we expect your new reporting to come out?
01:15:06.000 We'll see something coming out in the next few weeks, hopefully.
01:15:08.000 All right.
01:15:08.000 We're going to pay very, very close attention.
01:15:11.000 You and Christopher Ruffo are doing phenomenal work over there.
01:15:14.000 And I know it's a whole team.
01:15:16.000 It's just on the right, we have too few investigative journalists.
01:15:20.000 We have too few outlets that are doing this really critical work.
01:15:23.000 So, Kenneth Shrupp, congratulations on a bombshell story.
01:15:27.000 We know that you've got more coming, so we're going to keep tabs on that.
01:15:31.000 God bless you, man.
01:15:32.000 Thank you.
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