The Charlie Kirk Show - September 27, 2026


From the Archive: The Fruit of the West is the Fruit of Christianity — Charlie at the Sun Valley Policy Forum

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.
00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.
00:00:26.000 You've got to stop sending your kids to college.
00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.
00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.
00:00:33.000 Go start a turning point USA high school chapter.
00:00:35.000 Go find out how your church can get involved.
00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.
00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.
00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.
00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.
00:00:45.000 Here I am.
00:00:46.000 Lord, use me.
00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:49.000 Here we go.
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00:01:17.000 That was fantastic.
00:01:19.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:01:21.000 Thank you.
00:01:23.000 You know, I'm not going to put Charlie on the spot here, but we were talking in the green room and he asked about the pavilion and could we fill the pavilion next time.
00:01:33.000 You know, I said yes, we could.
00:01:36.000 I get this.
00:01:38.000 A bad trait from Donald Trump.
00:01:39.000 I always want bigger rooms and bigger spaces and more crowds.
00:01:43.000 So maybe it's a good trait.
00:01:45.000 I don't know.
00:01:45.000 That's right.
00:01:46.000 That's right.
00:01:46.000 This is excellent.
00:01:47.000 So that was incredible.
00:01:50.000 I want to talk about all the things we talked about.
00:01:53.000 So we can go through a little bit of that.
00:01:55.000 We're going to take some questions.
00:01:56.000 We've got some time.
00:01:57.000 So, Independence Day is coming up.
00:02:00.000 We do have a core topic that we talk about the Constitution.
00:02:05.000 And you like to talk about freedom of religion in the Constitution.
00:02:09.000 And why that is one of the most important clauses of the First Amendment and as a driver for freedom for all Americans, regardless of religion.
00:02:19.000 Do you want to kind of just spend a little bit of time explaining that to us?
00:02:21.000 Yeah, and I'm a deeply religious person, but even if you are not religious, you have to be intellectually honest that the country was better when more Americans took their religion seriously, period.
00:02:30.000 And it is absolutely true.
00:02:32.000 And you might say that the two are not related.
00:02:36.000 I completely disagree.
00:02:37.000 I think that it was better when most Americans believed.
00:02:42.000 That there was a creator of the universe that was not them, and they did not desire to be the creator of the world.
00:02:48.000 I think it's just a better world to live in when you have that operating belief.
00:02:52.000 And I could tell you that if you think it's okay, I'm not saying anyone has this belief, but just if you think it's okay that America loses its religious flavor or fervor, look to Europe, what happens as they all of a sudden have become less religious.
00:03:06.000 That continent is a husk of its former self, and you lose the moral center.
00:03:11.000 There's a reason why, and this is a very important point.
00:03:14.000 John Adams famously said, who's one of my favorite founding fathers, He famously said, The Constitution was written wholly for a moral and religious people. 0.90
00:03:24.000 It is inadequate for the people of any other.
00:03:26.000 So, basically, the form and structure that I just spent time talking about, you really can't continue if America becomes completely secular.
00:03:34.000 And there's a reason for it.
00:03:36.000 If you have a body politic that believes that there is a God who judges them and believes that there's a God who cares about how they act and that God wants you to do certain things, you don't need the voluminous laws that we have in our society, where we have 900,000 laws, if you count the Federal Register and the Federal Code and so on and so forth.
00:03:56.000 So I just want to say that first and foremost.
00:03:59.000 Secondly, we've always been lectured about separation of church and state.
00:04:03.000 That is not in the Constitution.
00:04:04.000 But for argument's sake, let's pretend that's actually something that's in the Constitution.
00:04:08.000 Instead, it's free exercise of religion and the Establishment Clause that Congress shall make no law abridging or respecting the religion thereof.
00:04:17.000 However, Thomas Jefferson wrote in a single letter in 1807 to the Danbury Baptist Convention he said to the Danbury Baptists, We have separation of church and state.
00:04:27.000 Interestingly, because the Baptists were really worried the government was going to come after them.
00:04:31.000 Okay, so then the Warren Court or the Burger Court in the 60s, they resurrected this idea of separation of church and state, and they said, we cannot have any church in the state.
00:04:40.000 Okay, well, during COVID, if we have separation of church and state, why was the state allowed to shut down the church?
00:04:47.000 Oh, so you don't mean separation of church and state.
00:04:49.000 You mean that the state can control the church, but the church can't have any input in the state.
00:04:53.000 Got it.
00:04:54.000 That's what this has all been about.
00:04:55.000 Because they don't mean separation of church and state, they've always meant separation of morality and state.
00:05:00.000 And nobody in this room believes that.
00:05:02.000 That at some point you will have to make a moral decision.
00:05:06.000 And we're seeing this in the West right now.
00:05:07.000 And I see it firsthand when I visit these college campuses.
00:05:09.000 And you can watch my videos ad nauseum.
00:05:12.000 Eventually, you have to get down to a truth claim.
00:05:15.000 And we as Christians believe in very simple truth claims, ones that we can all agree on.
00:05:19.000 It's the Ten Commandments. 0.90
00:05:21.000 And so eventually, someone on a college campus will say, Why is it wrong for a 13 year old to chop off their breasts? 0.89
00:05:28.000 Like, I see nothing wrong with that.
00:05:30.000 So now all of a sudden, we're talking wrong and right, good and evil.
00:05:32.000 And if there is no transcendent standard, To be able to judge off of that, well, then that's how you get tens of thousands of kids that are medically mutilating themselves every single year. 0.98
00:05:42.000 Additionally, Christopher Hitchens, who is a very well known atheist from the United Kingdom, in the last couple of months he came out and he said, I want back Christian society. 0.82
00:05:55.000 So he's an atheist who doesn't believe in the truth claims of Christianity, who is acknowledging the West was better when it was Christian. 0.95
00:06:03.000 And he's right, he's being honest. 0.84
00:06:05.000 And two things can be equally true.
00:06:06.000 I said, that's a contradiction.
00:06:08.000 No, he just doesn't believe in the metaphysics of Christianity, but he believes in the fruit of Christianity.
00:06:14.000 And you can't have one without the other.
00:06:16.000 However, I'm a big proponent and advocate of this because I believe at its core, if we think we can fix our problems in the West by continuing to be more secular, I think we're fooling ourselves.
00:06:32.000 That's great.
00:06:32.000 What did you, we had a governor in Louisiana just pass a law.
00:06:36.000 Yeah, when did you talk about that?
00:06:37.000 The Ten Commandments.
00:06:38.000 That was really bold, and I, you know, it was.
00:06:41.000 Of course, MSNBC did not like it.
00:06:43.000 Oh, no, they attacked me for saying something good about it.
00:06:46.000 So, first of all, how many of you guys know the Ten Commandments are actually in the Supreme Court building?
00:06:50.000 Moses is in the Supreme Court building.
00:06:52.000 This is not controversial, okay?
00:06:53.000 By the way, I would love any MSNBC host, they can even study ahead of time, to come on my show.
00:06:58.000 Can you name the Ten Commandments, okay?
00:07:01.000 I am the Lord your God who delivered you from Egypt.
00:07:02.000 You shall have no other gods before me.
00:07:03.000 You shall have no images in the form of no idols, right?
00:07:06.000 Honor the Sabbath day and to keep it holy.
00:07:09.000 You shall not carry or take the Lord's name in vain.
00:07:12.000 On your mother and father, so may live long in the land which you are in.
00:07:14.000 Do not murder, do not steal, do not commit adultery, and of course, do not covet.
00:07:19.000 I think I skipped over one.
00:07:20.000 Do not murder, do not steal, do not give false witness.
00:07:24.000 Thank you.
00:07:25.000 Do not lie, essentially.
00:07:26.000 So, by the way, who could.
00:07:28.000 So then I asked the question I asked the question of anybody who's secular.
00:07:34.000 Okay, forget the first four, okay?
00:07:36.000 The last six, why do you have a problem with those?
00:07:40.000 I mean, like, do not murder, do not steal.
00:07:43.000 And the reason the Ten Commandments must be, I mean, the ACLU is suing, they're losing their mind over this.
00:07:48.000 Again, this is what they spend their nonprofit money on, trying to remove the Ten Commandments from our schools.
00:07:54.000 And the reason is this is that they cannot finish their transformation project of America if people believed in the Ten Commandments.
00:08:03.000 Like you cannot.
00:08:04.000 And the founders knew, the founders believed in self government, and the founders would say time and time again if every citizen knew, believed, and acted within the Ten Commandments, you have liberty.
00:08:15.000 Think about that.
00:08:16.000 You're a self governing republic.
00:08:18.000 If you believe that there's something higher above you that tells you that these ten things really matter, for example, I honor the Sabbath very religiously.
00:08:25.000 I'm not Jehovah's Witness.
00:08:26.000 I just adopted it because I think it's amazing.
00:08:29.000 And my life is infinitely better that I turn off my phone every Friday night to Sunday morning.
00:08:32.000 I encourage everyone to do it.
00:08:34.000 One of my favorites, though, and I could talk about this literally because I teach on the Ten Commandments a lot because I think it's one of the most important topics in America, is the one commandment that the Marxists have targeted the most.
00:08:47.000 And it's the only one of the Ten Commandments that involves your nation and a promise.
00:08:51.000 And it is the bridge commandment the bridge commandment between our relationship with the divine and our relationship with our fellow man.
00:08:58.000 Which is honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.
00:09:02.000 Karl Marx and every Marxist thinker since has said, in order to usher in our revolution, we must destroy the nuclear family.
00:09:10.000 We are now a country that no longer fears God or fears our parents, but we fear the left instead. 0.65
00:09:17.000 That's amazing.
00:09:18.000 Yeah, I've got a follow up question, but I want the audience to get ready for their questions.
00:09:22.000 And so I hope our mic.
00:09:23.000 I had no idea we were talking about the time coming.
00:09:24.000 I had no idea.
00:09:25.000 I was like, that's amazing.
00:09:27.000 I love this topic.
00:09:28.000 So you also like to talk about the.
00:09:31.000 Sort of how liberty fits in, the definition of liberty.
00:09:34.000 And just explain that to you and what that leads to and what liberty gives us.
00:09:40.000 Yeah, so this is a very important point.
00:09:42.000 And liberty understood in the classical sense, as the founders understood it, is not being able to do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.
00:09:49.000 That is a new age term of liberty.
00:09:51.000 That's how we get drug legalization, prostitution, open air homelessness, and all the nonsense we see.
00:09:58.000 Liberty is having the ability, absent government interference, to do what one ought to do.
00:10:03.000 It's completely different.
00:10:05.000 License is the ability to do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.
00:10:08.000 So, again, this goes back to truth claims.
00:10:09.000 You cannot build a self governing republic if you're not willing to say that one way of life is better than the others.
00:10:16.000 Some conservatives don't even like talking like this.
00:10:17.000 They say, Well, who am I to judge?
00:10:19.000 I'm sorry, the way of having a beautiful family and homeschooling your children and following the laws of the land, that's a better way of living than some bum on the side of the street in San Francisco who's a meth addict.
00:10:31.000 Like, building a family is a way better life and it's more virtuous, and we should lift that up.
00:10:36.000 And so, liberty is the ability to do what one ought to do.
00:10:39.000 Again, that invites a whole bunch of questions and disagreements because we've been propagandized by the modern libertarian movement to never judge what another person does.
00:10:48.000 We get the trans stuff because of that belief, just so we're clear.
00:10:52.000 We get the fact that our children are being preyed upon in the classrooms when we are unwilling to say that is not liberty. 0.86
00:10:59.000 I'll give you a great example.
00:11:00.000 There was a debate in the last five years ago between David French and Soa Amari.
00:11:05.000 David French, who I can't stand, he thinks he's super smart.
00:11:09.000 Not again, yeah. 0.99
00:11:11.000 So David French says that it was the founders' view of liberty to allow drag queens to be able to dance in front of children in libraries. 0.74
00:11:19.000 And his argument actually made sense legally.
00:11:23.000 And then Sohrab says, no, no, the founders, they wanted liberty, not license.
00:11:27.000 And this was this huge debate that blew up.
00:11:29.000 And so that is the test I have for people.
00:11:31.000 Do you think that grown men wearing thongs should be able to go into libraries and dance in front of eight year olds?
00:11:38.000 And currently the law says yes, because it's liberty, right?
00:11:42.000 No, because we have not defined liberty correctly.
00:11:45.000 That is degeneracy, not liberty.
00:11:48.000 Liberty is that which lifts us up to a better version of ourselves and humanity.
00:11:52.000 It is about the beautiful things in life. 0.97
00:11:55.000 Drag Queen Story Hour with some thong dude is the disgusting things in life. 1.00
00:12:09.000 All right, I know you have a lot of questions, and I'd love to start looking for a question. 1.00
00:12:13.000 I'm going to hand it to front row Ray.
00:12:16.000 Sean, you ready?
00:12:19.000 Okay, I have a question, and maybe it's not appropriate for this, but for the last four or five years, I've always been, I've never heard an explanation for this.
00:12:29.000 Why 2% of the population takes over 80% of the airwaves, like you're talking about, right? 0.65
00:12:38.000 Everybody in the administration has to be bi or gay or dressed in dresses with beards. 0.85
00:12:44.000 I don't get it, but you know, I'm not saying it's bad or good or anything. 1.00
00:12:49.000 I'm just wondering how.
00:12:51.000 Who is involved in this?
00:12:53.000 Who presses this?
00:12:54.000 It's a great, it's a very deep question.
00:12:56.000 So, what you're talking about is the new state run religion of the West, which is the religion of pride.
00:13:02.000 And we have a whole month dedicated to it.
00:13:04.000 Do we have a whole month dedicated to Jesus?
00:13:05.000 No.
00:13:06.000 We have like two days Easter and Christmas.
00:13:08.000 We have a whole month embraced by corporate America, the federal government, the Department of Defense, the CIA around people's personal, private sexual behaviors.
00:13:19.000 That's very, at its face, that should immediately be like, what are we doing as a civilization here? 0.57
00:13:25.000 And So, the answer is this: that it is one of the five fake religions, counterfeit religions, that have infected Western culture.
00:13:33.000 I can go through the list, but it's not totally applicable to this.
00:13:36.000 But one of them is the religion of earth worship or environmentalism, the religion of anti-racism, the religion of scientism.
00:13:42.000 But it has a fervor that feels as if you're watching some sort of like weird counterfeit Pentecostal revival.
00:13:54.000 And you might say, well, that's heretical.
00:13:56.000 Think about it: they have chantings and sayings that they all agree on.
00:14:00.000 They have a core doctrine.
00:14:02.000 They also have symbology that is more, in the month of June, I've seen more publicly displayed rainbow flags than American flags.
00:14:14.000 Maybe you disagree.
00:14:15.000 Maybe Idaho's different.
00:14:17.000 No?
00:14:18.000 Okay, that's good.
00:14:18.000 I'm glad Idaho's the exception.
00:14:21.000 Maybe Boise, I don't know.
00:14:22.000 Boise does.
00:14:24.000 Yeah.
00:14:25.000 So Huntington Beach Bandit, good for them.
00:14:28.000 So who is pushing it?
00:14:30.000 Well, it's being pushed internally, but this is again the death of God in the West is one of the great moral tragedies.
00:14:39.000 Friedrich Nietzsche, who wrote a lot of books, he was wrong about a lot.
00:14:43.000 He famously came up with that God is dead.
00:14:45.000 That was one of his famous things.
00:14:47.000 He actually was lamenting it.
00:14:48.000 And he put forward and thus says that Zalathustra in one of his books that he wrote, he says that, and I'm paraphrasing, be very careful, Westerners, what comes after God.
00:15:01.000 And he was somebody that was not even a Christian.
00:15:04.000 He was a nihilist who was saying, God has already died.
00:15:07.000 This is in the 1870s, to be clear how prophetic this guy was.
00:15:10.000 And he's like, What comes next will be very dark.
00:15:13.000 And we're living through that darkness, essentially.
00:15:16.000 And they will not stop.
00:15:17.000 And I'll just go really quickly. 0.99
00:15:19.000 The pride thing and the gay thing is we've all been taken advantage of on this because it started with, okay, you must tolerate it. 0.89
00:15:25.000 I think a lot of us, our temperament was like, Sure, we're tolerant people. 0.98
00:15:29.000 Who wants to be called intolerant, right?
00:15:31.000 But then all of a sudden they said, You must accept it.
00:15:34.000 Like, wait a second, I thought it was about tolerance.
00:15:35.000 Now you care about my personal beliefs?
00:15:37.000 And then all of a sudden they said, now you must celebrate it.
00:15:40.000 I thought this was about tolerance. 0.83
00:15:42.000 And they're like, where's your gay flag outside of your home?
00:15:44.000 Why don't you have it at your corporate banner? 0.57
00:15:46.000 What's your gay pride index? 0.86
00:15:47.000 Not kidding, a real thing.
00:15:49.000 How many openly transgender people do you have in your HR department? 0.98
00:15:52.000 Questions they ask.
00:15:53.000 Then finally, they say you must participate in it.
00:15:57.000 And if you're like, well, how do I do that?
00:15:59.000 Oh, give us your kids.
00:16:03.000 And I will say something that might offend somebody, and that's fine, I don't care. 1.00
00:16:08.000 They cannot reproduce, so they must recruit. 0.99
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00:17:54.000 All right, we need another.
00:17:55.000 We have another question.
00:17:56.000 I see one over here on the aisle on the right.
00:17:59.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:18:00.000 My name is Tanya.
00:18:01.000 My husband and I are huge fans of you.
00:18:03.000 Thank you so much for what you're doing.
00:18:08.000 We're strong believers of preserving the nuclear family.
00:18:12.000 We are 31 and 30.
00:18:14.000 He's going to be 33 soon.
00:18:16.000 We've been together 17 years.
00:18:17.000 We have a 14 year old, nine year old, one in heaven, and one on the way.
00:18:22.000 And we give credit to God.
00:18:24.000 To Jesus Christ.
00:18:26.000 So, I started to get into politics because of the things that I see that are being brought into the school system.
00:18:34.000 And a lot of people here in Blaine County don't think that the CRT movement or like the DEI is as bad as it is in the bigger cities, but it is.
00:18:45.000 I want to, if you could share with a lot of the people here that reside in Blaine County, how dangerous the CRT, DEI things are because, real quick, When I was working in the school system, that's when it started to infiltrate.
00:19:00.000 There was one day that I left in tears because I had to sit through a training that was anti white.
00:19:07.000 It was just telling us how the whole system is anti white, everything that from being clean, like me being Hispanic, me being clean, or being expected to be clean at work is white supremacy. 0.68
00:19:20.000 One of the.
00:19:21.000 And this is the local school district here?
00:19:22.000 Yes.
00:19:22.000 Yeah, I believe that.
00:19:23.000 And a lot in the after school programs, we were required to go through these trainings.
00:19:29.000 And one of them, the interesting thing was everyone was on board.
00:19:33.000 But the other interesting thing was that all of the women that agreed with it were all of Jewish descent. 0.88
00:19:38.000 And they agreed that the people of color have had it worse. 0.82
00:19:43.000 Like they were willing to give up their own trauma for this. 1.00
00:19:45.000 And I just want you to share how dangerous that is.
00:19:48.000 Yeah, that's a great question.
00:19:49.000 First of all, God bless you.
00:19:50.000 And I'm glad you have another one on the way.
00:19:52.000 So I will do this as quickly as I can.
00:19:56.000 It's very simple.
00:19:57.000 The American Project has always been about individual over tribe.
00:20:01.000 The Marxist project is about tribe over the individual.
00:20:05.000 And CRT and DEI is about inverting us away from individual rights to tribal rights or group rights.
00:20:12.000 So, you are no longer made in the image of God.
00:20:15.000 You are simply part of whatever ethnic group that we could be designated. 0.66
00:20:20.000 And they can't explain the contradictions. 0.86
00:20:21.000 What if you're half white, half black? 0.99
00:20:23.000 They can't go through any of that, right? 0.98
00:20:25.000 But because this is a means of control that actually ushers us back to primal governance, not Western governance.
00:20:33.000 And if you look at most forms of government around the world, they're largely tribe based, they are not individual based. 0.56
00:20:40.000 If you look at most governments in the Middle East, it's about who your father was. 0.82
00:20:45.000 What I mean, the best example I can give is India, which is the caste system. 0.95
00:20:49.000 You're born in a certain caste, that is what matters. 0.96
00:20:52.000 It is immovable. 0.81
00:20:53.000 And this goes back to my religious argument is that the woke, which I talk about in the book, Critical Race Theory, Diversity, Equity, Inclusion are just the latest manifestations.
00:21:01.000 Also, ESG, Environmental Sustainability Governance, which is a way that they're taking over corporate America right now, is that they will constantly criticize the white man.
00:21:12.000 Me, like I am, there's a reason why they hate me so much, right?
00:21:15.000 I'm all the things you're not supposed to be, right? 0.81
00:21:18.000 Married, white. 0.85
00:21:19.000 Christian, heterosexual, entrepreneur.
00:21:22.000 They say this, by the way, right?
00:21:24.000 That the only role for me is to constantly apologize for the rest of my life and become what they call an ally of the revolution. 0.53
00:21:33.000 And so, what they have been able to do so successfully is they have been able to convince the white majority population in America to effectively hate themselves.
00:21:43.000 Now, I'm not big on, actually, I guess I hate any sort of racial group saying that they're great, because I actually don't believe in that.
00:21:50.000 But self hatred, Is really bad and should not exist.
00:21:53.000 And white guilt, if you will, by the way, this is not my thesis.
00:21:56.000 This is Shelby Steele and Thomas Sowell that have talked about this for multiple decades, has really allowed this to usher in to our school system and our curriculum.
00:22:04.000 And you say something really interesting.
00:22:06.000 The individuals in your school system say, well, these groups have been marginalized in the past.
00:22:12.000 You see, if you looked at every individual made in the image of God, that's actually not relevant.
00:22:16.000 It's because every individual has their own agency, their own ability to make choices.
00:22:21.000 And they all have the ability to be developed of good character regardless of what happened previously to them.
00:22:26.000 That's the American promise, by the way.
00:22:28.000 The American promise is not what tribe you are from or what you look like.
00:22:34.000 And they are trying to reduce us down to the melanin content in our skin and not try to ask the more deep questions of what is your soul, spirit, character, actions, what have you done for the world?
00:22:46.000 Instead, they want to put you into a prearranged box based just on how you look.
00:22:50.000 Look, I can go in hours, I don't want to spend all the time on this, but CRT and DEI, if left unopposed, Will destroy America and will do it very quickly.
00:22:58.000 That is not just my opinion, it's the opinion of other moderate voices like Elon Musk and many other people that are opening up and reading the literature that I've been warning about for many years.
00:23:07.000 It is currently enveloping anything successful and taking it down.
00:23:13.000 So I'll give you an example, and I got a lot of heat for this, and I stand by it 100% because anybody with intellectual honesty agrees with me, which is this United Airlines has come out and they say in their new pilot hiring classes, 50% will be black people or women in their new hiring classes.
00:23:30.000 Okay, so currently it's like 15%.
00:23:33.000 So they're going to go from 15% to 50%.
00:23:36.000 Every time DEI and affirmative action, which are sisters of each other, are implemented, standards go down.
00:23:40.000 Every time.
00:23:41.000 At Harvard, in the federal government, there has never been an isolated example ever where you prioritize race and merit is simultaneously achieved.
00:23:50.000 You have to lower the standards.
00:23:52.000 So I say to people are you comfortable flying in a United Airlines plane if you find out that your pilot was hired because of his race, not because of his excellence?
00:24:03.000 And if you're honest, you say, Of course not.
00:24:06.000 And you say, How about this?
00:24:07.000 You're going to go into surgery.
00:24:08.000 And it comes in for the pre op.
00:24:10.000 Is like, hey, I don't know what I'm doing, but I stayed at a Holiday Night Express last night and I'm black and this will be the most diverse surgery in this hospital's history.
00:24:23.000 That's right.
00:24:24.000 Well, okay.
00:24:28.000 Just one sec.
00:24:28.000 Let's get to another question.
00:24:30.000 Well, what I want to ask about that is that how, so what, the black population is shifting and they're wakening.
00:24:43.000 We saw that you had this amazing big event in Detroit, and you hosted former President Donald Trump with the former mayor of Detroit and a group of black leaders.
00:24:55.000 Will you talk about that for a few minutes and what they are thinking?
00:24:58.000 Because they think a lot of these things are just bananas and absurd.
00:25:02.000 Yeah, it's funny.
00:25:02.000 When I made that comment about the pilots, the world erupted.
00:25:05.000 It was mostly white liberals attacking me.
00:25:07.000 It's actually blacks and Hispanics who were the most favorable in defending me, saying, no, that we do not want to be looked at just as a skin color.
00:25:14.000 It's insulting to us and our career and our future and our achievements because then people think we're only there because of a quota. 0.98
00:25:24.000 And by the way, they're correct.
00:25:26.000 People start to think that if you start to hire just on those practices.
00:25:30.000 So, yeah, look, we're making huge gains in those communities and for good reason because the idea of a meritocracy should be appealing to anyone that wants to work hard and to succeed in this country.
00:25:41.000 And so, yeah.
00:25:41.000 Well, you know, and I think about that.
00:25:43.000 I think back in the 30 years of.
00:25:45.000 School choice and vouchers, and really opening up freedom to so many families to have an opportunity to choose where they go to school, and particularly children who are just born or live in the wrong zip code.
00:25:59.000 And they happen to be a lot, the majority of them are minorities, and their lives have changed tremendously by having other opportunities.
00:26:06.000 And we've seen a whole generation of kids rise up.
00:26:10.000 Do you have any thoughts on that?
00:26:11.000 And just talk a little bit about what freedom really can do for raising every kid.
00:26:17.000 Yeah, and I loved when President Trump came out a couple days ago and said he wants to abolish the Department of Education, which I think is amazing.
00:26:24.000 And it is long overdue, and it is 100% achievable if Congress would actually act on it.
00:26:32.000 By the way, there's a lot he can do through federal executive order to just reduce the power of the Federal Department of Education.
00:26:38.000 It has been one of the great stains on society.
00:26:42.000 Again, I don't want to monopolize too much on these one offs, but the whole premise of education in our country.
00:26:47.000 Is wrong.
00:26:48.000 And we, I hear from conservatives a lot.
00:26:50.000 How many times, maybe some of you have said it, Charlie, I just want my kid to go to school and have a politics neutral experience and they learn reading, writing, and arithmetic.
00:26:58.000 You might have heard that before.
00:27:01.000 Okay.
00:27:02.000 That is not what education is, everybody.
00:27:05.000 I know you just applauded.
00:27:06.000 It's not about skills, it should be about developing good people of deep character.
00:27:12.000 And you say, What are you talking about?
00:27:14.000 Is that properly understood?
00:27:15.000 The founding fathers were all classically educated and they got their skills outside of school.
00:27:20.000 What they got in school was reading the great beautiful texts that had built the world prior, and they were in pursuit of what is good, true, and beautiful.
00:27:27.000 Children are something that you need to nourish and allow them to grow, not something to be engineered as a project.
00:27:34.000 And so let me say two things.
00:27:35.000 If you think you're ever going to get a politics neutral classroom, it will never exist because eventually there will be a truth claim.
00:27:42.000 I'll give you an example.
00:27:43.000 Eventually, somebody will show up late to class.
00:27:46.000 Does the teacher discipline that kid?
00:27:47.000 Yes or no?
00:27:48.000 That morality will then be instilled on the rest of the class.
00:27:52.000 Are you allowed to interrupt the teacher?
00:27:54.000 You say no, but that's a political statement to say you can't interrupt the teacher.
00:27:59.000 How about this?
00:28:00.000 I'm allowed to turn in my homework late because I'm black.
00:28:04.000 That happens all the time, by the way, in school districts across the country.
00:28:07.000 So, this idea that we're going to get a depoliticized classroom is never going to happen.
00:28:11.000 Instead, what we should have is embrace the classical model of education.
00:28:15.000 Every founder was classically educated.
00:28:17.000 Hillsdale College is a classical institution, and they're America's greatest college.
00:28:22.000 And so, the whole premise of education is wrong because the current experts of the DC regime look at children as widgets to be engineered when they should look at them as plants to allow them to grow.
00:28:36.000 It's completely different.
00:28:38.000 Education comes from the word, Latin word, to lead forth.
00:28:41.000 You must lead them forth towards something.
00:28:43.000 And I ask parents this all the time.
00:28:46.000 Actually, somebody earlier said, How do I say to my grandkid?
00:28:49.000 And it's very simple Would you rather have your grandkid be somebody of upstanding character or have a college degree?
00:28:55.000 And sometimes you can get both, right?
00:28:57.000 But we have lost the plot because it should be about creating good people, about people of high character and high esteem in society.
00:29:05.000 Anyway, so look, school choice and mobility is incredibly important.
00:29:09.000 We need to break the back of the teacher union cartel.
00:29:11.000 The teacher union cartel has done more damage to America than the Mexican drug cartel.
00:29:16.000 I believe these people should be, some of them I think, should be criminally investigated for what they've done.
00:29:21.000 The American Federation of Teachers and the National Education Association.
00:29:24.000 So school choice is a great way to solve that.
00:29:28.000 Okay, we're going to go to another question.
00:29:30.000 Okay, Lisa Leach. 0.97
00:29:33.000 So there's right there in the middle.
00:29:36.000 Charlie, you have talked about colleges not performing for our children.
00:29:41.000 So, what do you say to graduating seniors from high school?
00:29:44.000 What should they do?
00:29:45.000 Yeah, it's a great question.
00:29:46.000 So, if you have to go to college, I can give you advice on that.
00:29:49.000 If you want to be a doctor, an engineer, a lawyer, 95% of kids that go to college should not go to college.
00:29:54.000 And I'll prove it to you.
00:29:55.000 Those of you that employ people, would you rather have somebody from the University of CU Boulder or somebody that has visited 50 countries?
00:30:04.000 Which person would you hire?
00:30:05.000 Yeah, 50 countries.
00:30:07.000 So, wait, why don't we do that?
00:30:10.000 I mean, you say, oh, I want my kid to go get high and have unlimited.
00:30:14.000 Like STD sharing for four years and like learn nothing and hate the country and get like sloppy overweight.
00:30:21.000 And like, that's what happens, by the way, to almost all these kids that go to college.
00:30:25.000 I don't think people understand how destructive these institutions have become to our country.
00:30:30.000 And so I think we have to look at things way more creatively.
00:30:33.000 People say, oh, I can't get a job if I don't go to college.
00:30:35.000 That is increasingly not true.
00:30:37.000 We prove that in the book, The College Scam.
00:30:39.000 Mike Rowe has also been a great backup on that.
00:30:42.000 I'm also a living example.
00:30:43.000 You don't need to go to college, I have a high school degree.
00:30:45.000 I'm proud of it.
00:30:47.000 And so I'm like one of those non college educated people that support Donald Trump.
00:30:50.000 You always see that in the polls. 0.96
00:30:54.000 And so, but I think that's it, it's very important though, because again, this room is obviously very, you know, is college educated and all that, but it's very important because what they're doing in that polling is they're saying, here's what the smart people think of Trump and here's what the dumb people think of Trump. 0.90
00:31:07.000 That's what they're doing.
00:31:09.000 They are propagandizing and mind shaping you through a long period of time.
00:31:13.000 And parents say, I'd rather have my kid, of course, be in the college educated category, not in the other category.
00:31:18.000 I guarantee you, if we went around the room, There would be story after story of people that have lost kids or grandkids to college, that they come back something completely different.
00:31:25.000 And I see a lot of heads nodding.
00:31:27.000 And you send Brian off to the University of Oregon, and he comes back Brianna.
00:31:41.000 So it's not a one size fits all suggestion.
00:31:45.000 I wrote a whole book about it.
00:31:47.000 I will say this we do not have enough entrepreneurs and risk takers in this country, people that want to start businesses, scrap and hustle.
00:31:54.000 This is not just me. 1.00
00:31:55.000 Employers will say that they, if they see an application from Gen Z, they'll say they'll immediately throw it, they do not want to touch anyone that has gone to college. 1.00
00:32:03.000 It is the least desirable hiring class. 0.98
00:32:05.000 In fact, having a college degree, at least with what we do, hurts you.
00:32:10.000 I immediately think that you're a tainted object.
00:32:15.000 But here is the limiting belief you have to be okay with your kid or grandkid not going to college.
00:32:20.000 And until you are able to swallow that pill, then nothing will change.
00:32:25.000 And the problem is in high society circles like this, it's an expectation.
00:32:28.000 I know that because I came from suburban Chicago.
00:32:30.000 I was the only graduate who taught my class, Eagle Scout football, basketball captain, good student.
00:32:34.000 When I told people I wasn't going to college, they say, Are you okay?
00:32:36.000 Are you on drugs?
00:32:37.000 Do you need to see a psychiatrist or something?
00:32:41.000 I was like, No, no, I'm going to go start an organization and hopefully save the country.
00:32:44.000 They're like, Yeah, good luck with that.
00:32:45.000 Cynicism, negativity.
00:32:49.000 But again, glory be to God, right?
00:32:52.000 That's great.
00:32:56.000 Sorry, I'm calling.
00:32:57.000 No, you're not.
00:32:58.000 That's great.
00:32:59.000 Okay, we have some more questions.
00:33:01.000 Let me see.
00:33:04.000 Okay, oh, I see over here.
00:33:05.000 I'm not calling anybody.
00:33:07.000 I see somebody waving, but I can't tell what's going on.
00:33:09.000 Oh, hi.
00:33:10.000 Can you hear me?
00:33:11.000 Yes.
00:33:11.000 Charlie, I listened to your recent interview with Roger Stone about his prediction for June 11th.
00:33:18.000 Can you speak to that and tell us what you think about that?
00:33:21.000 Yeah.
00:33:22.000 Yeah, it's a great question.
00:33:25.000 Is that my friend from.
00:33:28.000 I know who that is.
00:33:30.000 Yes, so, okay, so yes, Roger Stone came on my show and he said that on July 11th, which will be one of the most consequential days in American history.
00:33:40.000 Which is the day that Donald Trump will be sentenced for the 34 convictions.
00:33:45.000 By the way, great fun trick with your liberal friends.
00:33:47.000 Ask them to name the 34 things he was convicted of.
00:33:50.000 They can't name one of them, right?
00:33:51.000 By the way, neither can the judge, just so we're clear.
00:33:53.000 No one knows.
00:33:54.000 It's completely made up.
00:33:55.000 And I'm not kidding.
00:33:56.000 They convicted him for a fraud of covering up a crime, and they cannot tell you what the actual crime was, just so we are clear.
00:34:02.000 Andrew Cuomo has now come out, and he has said that I'm former Attorney General of New York, former governor.
00:34:07.000 This case should never have been brought.
00:34:08.000 If it wasn't Trump, it shouldn't have been brought.
00:34:09.000 So, anyway, so Judge Mershon.
00:34:12.000 Who is a raging left wing Democrat?
00:34:13.000 I don't say this lightly.
00:34:14.000 He would have been a perfect Politburo member of Stalin's cabinet as a judge. 1.00
00:34:18.000 This guy is a nasty, evil person. 0.98
00:34:20.000 I'm not under a gag order, so I can say whatever I want about this guy. 0.98
00:34:22.000 So, and he has the full authority on July 11th.
00:34:28.000 He could go anything from one extreme to the other.
00:34:30.000 He could say, Donald, Mr. Trump, Rikers Island right now.
00:34:34.000 He could do that.
00:34:35.000 He could send him to prison right then and there.
00:34:37.000 He could say, you have to report to jail a month from then.
00:34:40.000 He could do house arrest.
00:34:41.000 He could say that you have to stay in Trump Tower for.
00:34:44.000 Then to the end of the year.
00:34:46.000 He could also do something more creative, which I think they might do, which is he could turn it, we could be like, okay, I know you're running for president.
00:34:55.000 You have to report to prison in February.
00:34:58.000 And all of a sudden it becomes a political issue.
00:35:00.000 That becomes more of a political issue than just being a convicted felon, right?
00:35:03.000 Because then people think, can he serve as president?
00:35:05.000 What does that look like?
00:35:07.000 So, two thoughts.
00:35:07.000 Number one, he has to announce his vice president before July 11th.
00:35:10.000 We just need to.
00:35:11.000 Like, this is, we cannot go through this with the uncertainty of the unknown that he gets hauled off to jail.
00:35:17.000 And he has to announce his VP via Zoom or Skype or something, right?
00:35:20.000 I don't think that's a good idea.
00:35:22.000 The second thing is, what do I think they're going to do?
00:35:24.000 I have no idea, but if I study the left for a living and I fight them for a living, they have shown no signs of slowing down.
00:35:31.000 Instead, they are accelerating.
00:35:32.000 They are accelerating against us.
00:35:34.000 They're putting Steve Bannon in a federal prison cell for a misdemeanor on July 1st, I think.
00:35:41.000 Peter Navarro's in a federal prison cell.
00:35:43.000 They still are raiding homes, raiding homes of people that were hundreds of yards away from the Capitol and never went into the Capitol.
00:35:49.000 They are still raiding those homes on a daily basis.
00:35:52.000 There are still dozens of people in pretrial detention in Washington, D.C. for January 6th related crimes.
00:35:58.000 There are 1,400 people that have been arrested and convicted of crimes January 6th related.
00:36:03.000 1,400 people.
00:36:05.000 There were zero for BLM on the federal level during that summer of love, otherwise known as Floydapalooza.
00:36:11.000 So they are accelerating, not de accelerating.
00:36:14.000 So I don't know.
00:36:15.000 Judge Mershon, he could change the entire election.
00:36:17.000 I hope for the good of the country, he will say, probation, you know, good luck if you want to be president.
00:36:24.000 That would be the right thing for the country.
00:36:26.000 And by the way, not just the right thing for the country, he has every precedent.
00:36:30.000 And every legal reasoning.
00:36:31.000 He's a first time offender.
00:36:33.000 It's a nonviolent crime.
00:36:34.000 These are misdemeanors that were upgraded to felonies.
00:36:37.000 So, every reason.
00:36:38.000 But we're not living in an era of the law.
00:36:41.000 We are living in a post constitutional moment.
00:36:44.000 And I hope it does not become a post constitutional reality.
00:36:48.000 That's great.
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00:38:08.000 Let's have some more questions.
00:38:10.000 I'm not uplifting.
00:38:12.000 Let's get to something really positive.
00:38:15.000 I'm looking for.
00:38:17.000 Okay, there.
00:38:17.000 I see a hand up midway.
00:38:19.000 Yep.
00:38:20.000 Thank you.
00:38:20.000 Stand up and ask your question.
00:38:21.000 Thanks.
00:38:22.000 Thanks for being with us, Charlie. 0.70
00:38:26.000 So if you look at DC, you see rhinos who are centrists at best, and you see Democrats who are moving more and more progressively.
00:38:37.000 If I was struck by something Ms. Mitchell said last night, where she said that Democrats have spent the last 11 years focusing on electoral process, whereas conservatives have focused on policy.
00:38:52.000 And so, as we sit here today, if we can't win from an election perspective, what can each of us do in the room to kind of bolster, embrace, activate conservative values to actually win?
00:39:07.000 Yeah, that's a really profound question.
00:39:10.000 So, I'll give you two answers to that.
00:39:12.000 First of all, in Idaho, you can win on a political basis.
00:39:17.000 And you have one.
00:39:18.000 And I'm going to tell you, you have very, in my opinion, disappointing statewide elected officials here.
00:39:22.000 And I don't mean to insult anybody.
00:39:24.000 You do not have fighters in DC right now.
00:39:25.000 You don't.
00:39:26.000 Maybe you agree or disagree.
00:39:28.000 They are not fighters.
00:39:29.000 Sorry.
00:39:30.000 They are not people that are fighting for you guys.
00:39:32.000 They're checking boxes and doing all sorts of stuff.
00:39:34.000 It's a waste of time.
00:39:36.000 This country is about to no longer be a country, and they're sending more money to Ukraine and telling you how great they are.
00:39:41.000 It's a waste of rations.
00:39:43.000 But yes, I think we can win electorally.
00:39:46.000 So what you can do is every person needs to take over the Idaho Republican Party.
00:39:51.000 From the grassroots level, and to make this a grassroots party. 0.50
00:39:54.000 You are the reddest state in the country. 0.98
00:39:56.000 Maybe it's time that Idaho starts acting like it.
00:39:59.000 Instead, you have Republicans that are more moderate than Ron Johnson, who's from a battleground state in Wisconsin.
00:40:08.000 And it's just, again, they talk a good game.
00:40:09.000 That's fine.
00:40:10.000 I'm sure all of you guys, they went to your ribbon cutting ceremony at some factory or whatever.
00:40:14.000 I'm sure they're nice people.
00:40:16.000 Are they the fighters of Josh Hawley, Rand Paul?
00:40:19.000 Are they fighting every single day in the trenches?
00:40:21.000 You don't see it.
00:40:22.000 If you see it, you're seeing something that's not there, right?
00:40:26.000 Yes, my friend here from Boise knows taking over the Republican Party, right?
00:40:29.000 You are, but that's what you have to do is that here's one of the main problems in American politics.
00:40:35.000 The American people are a center right people, they do not have an opposition party that they can attach to.
00:40:43.000 This is why when DC people are like, oh, I don't understand Trump, Trump is the only person that has come and has disrupted the status quo for millions of people that have been so upset with the old Republican Party for decades.
00:40:56.000 And that is part of his appeal.
00:40:57.000 That's why he can do no wrong in the eyes of so many people because he represents something bigger than that.
00:41:02.000 So, yeah, just take over the Republican Party, to be perfectly honest with you.
00:41:05.000 It's not good enough to just go to DC and reorganize the chairs on the Titanic, which is what they're doing.
00:41:11.000 Yeah, that's great.
00:41:13.000 Very motivating.
00:41:14.000 And I'd love for you to talk a little bit about your book.
00:41:18.000 You have some great recommendations in there.
00:41:21.000 And, you know, a lot of times we'd say, what can we do?
00:41:23.000 And that is one of the great things to get more active locally.
00:41:27.000 Talk about some of these interesting things.
00:41:29.000 You have some great recommendations.
00:41:30.000 Thank you.
00:41:31.000 Yeah.
00:41:31.000 So, first is, of course, start local.
00:41:33.000 So, try to take over this school board, take over the local city here. 0.82
00:41:35.000 I know that you're in the minority and it's tough, but that would be a really good action item.
00:41:40.000 Secondly, you have to care less about one thing you should never care about the names that left wingers call you.
00:41:47.000 At its core, the amount of power that the American left has over us by nothing more than weaponized name calling is extraordinary.
00:41:56.000 It's like we give them so much power because we think that their insults to us mean something.
00:42:02.000 Oh, I'm not a racist.
00:42:03.000 I'm not a misogynist.
00:42:04.000 I'm not a sexist.
00:42:05.000 It should mean nothing.
00:42:06.000 It's just you should care less about that.
00:42:08.000 And then finally, look, there's a lot of people in this room that give philanthropically and have done very well in business.
00:42:15.000 And we raise a lot of money at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
00:42:18.000 Praise God.
00:42:19.000 We raise over $100 million a year.
00:42:20.000 We have 300,000 donors.
00:42:22.000 So I see a big change in this regard.
00:42:24.000 But we have to stop giving money voluntarily to institutions that hate us.
00:42:29.000 Cut off your college, guys, is the first thing.
00:42:30.000 Stop giving your money to your alma mater.
00:42:32.000 And if you say, oh, well, my alma mater is different, unless you went to Hillsdale College, you're wrong, okay?
00:42:37.000 And so, but think about it.
00:42:39.000 How many left wingers are voluntarily giving money to Hillsdale?
00:42:42.000 None of them.
00:42:43.000 Why do we voluntarily give money to the institutions that are destroying the nation?
00:42:48.000 And then finally, you have to maybe you should find a new wealth manager if you have Fidelity.
00:42:53.000 Fidelity is awful, for example, they cancel conservatives all the time.
00:42:56.000 Find a donor advised fund like Bradley, an impact fund that does a great job.
00:43:00.000 And I think the world of them, and they've done such a great job.
00:43:03.000 So there are action items.
00:43:04.000 What I'm getting at, though, is that.
00:43:05.000 Everything you do should be colored by the idea of is it consistent with my patriotic American values?
00:43:12.000 From where you shop to the goods and services, public square is a great resource for a lot of people.
00:43:19.000 But it's a different mindset because I, like you, miss the country where we could just kind of go to Starbucks and not have to worry if we're funding the opposition.
00:43:28.000 That country no longer exists. 0.93
00:43:30.000 And the greatest untapped asset, and it's barely been touched on, is the combined purchasing power of Red America. 0.99
00:43:38.000 If that beast ever wakes up, we could bankrupt corporate America. 0.93
00:43:42.000 And by the way, look at just Bud Light, for example.
00:43:47.000 By the way, they've recovered in the stock price because we kind of forgot to stop boycotting them.
00:43:52.000 But again, I don't drink.
00:43:53.000 I think it's all nonsense.
00:43:55.000 But that's okay.
00:43:56.000 You guys have a great day.
00:43:57.000 So, by the way, if you're drinking Bud Light, we got bigger problems, just so we're clear.
00:44:01.000 So, you guys in Idaho, you got a lot better options, right?
00:44:04.000 You got micro breweries and stuff.
00:44:06.000 Like, you got to do better than that.
00:44:08.000 Yeah, I was going to say.
00:44:09.000 I have no moral problems with drinking, it's just not for me.
00:44:11.000 But I'll say with Bud Light, though, they had like a slight dip in sales that became a big dip, and they totally reconfigured their company.
00:44:18.000 I will say one promising thing I have noticed versus last year a little bit more of a muted approach to Pride Month from some companies than we did last year.
00:44:29.000 Again, it's still in your face, it's still there, but last year was like out of control.
00:44:34.000 I mean, that was outrageous.
00:44:36.000 So, look, and then in my book, I go through action items of what people can do.
00:44:39.000 I think everyone gets a book here tonight, is that right?
00:44:40.000 They do, they do.
00:44:41.000 I think we have enough left to go for a household.
00:44:44.000 We're hoping to.
00:44:45.000 So, let me ask you that.
00:44:46.000 I want you to transition.
00:44:47.000 I think you include this in your book as well, because I just got my copy on this trip too, because you just released it.
00:44:53.000 Is just the existential threat of the American family and young families, and what we should be thinking about in terms of Family life, you know, families prioritizing the family, and just kind of talking to that a little bit, and just that recommendation that if young adults just started reading about this before it was too late and they decided they didn't have a family.
00:45:19.000 Yeah, it's a great, great thing, a great point.
00:45:21.000 So, I blame both parties on this regard, but most let's just look at Joe Biden on this.
00:45:28.000 We get symposiums on systemic racism.
00:45:30.000 He turns Easter into the Transgender Day of Awareness.
00:45:33.000 Did he do a single press conference or mentioning?
00:45:36.000 That the birth rate in America is the lowest ever in recorded history?
00:45:40.000 I mean, just so we're clear, that is like species ending stuff.
00:45:44.000 Like, if you don't get that right.
00:45:46.000 How many of you did not know that, by the way?
00:45:48.000 I see tons of hands.
00:45:49.000 You know, the fertility rate is at the lowest it's ever been in American history and it is collapsing in real time.
00:45:55.000 It's getting so low.
00:45:56.000 And it's an interesting shoehorn, actually.
00:45:59.000 It's that the people who are having the most kids are the ultra wealthy and the ultra poor.
00:46:04.000 Middle class America is having the least amount of kids.
00:46:06.000 It's kind of a very interesting shoehorn. 1.00
00:46:09.000 And it makes actually a lot of sense.
00:46:11.000 The ultra poor, their treasure is their kids.
00:46:14.000 The ultra rich have everything else, so they want the most beautiful thing in life because they can afford it, which is kids.
00:46:19.000 And so it's the middle class that really can't afford having children anymore.
00:46:22.000 So affordability is a big problem, and we've made it nearly impossible to have a single income provider of a family.
00:46:29.000 I'll give you one number really quick.
00:46:31.000 I got it from Elizabeth Warren, of all people. 0.99
00:46:32.000 She wrote a great book, believe it or not, before she became a nutcase called The Dual Income Trap.
00:46:40.000 In the early 2000s, she was a Harvard professor. 0.83
00:46:42.000 And she correctly argued, by the way, that America will decline if we force women into the workforce who want to be stay at home moms.
00:46:49.000 Can you believe Elizabeth Warren wrote that?
00:46:51.000 And she did an amazing job.
00:46:52.000 You could go, it's an incredible book.
00:46:54.000 And she goes through all the numbers saying that the country will be better if the man can support the family alone.
00:46:59.000 And we don't.
00:47:00.000 So she gets this amazing number.
00:47:01.000 In 1995, when a lot of you guys were in the heart of your business and really doing a lot, it required 36 weeks of work a year to support a family of four in America.
00:47:12.000 It now requires 60 weeks of work a year, so more than 52 weeks. 0.95
00:47:18.000 So it forces the woman into the workforce unnecessarily and not voluntarily. 0.99
00:47:22.000 Again, I'm all for, of course, women in the workforce that they choose, but a lot of moms don't want to have to go to work immediately. 0.98
00:47:27.000 They want to spend those first five or six years with those kids and then maybe go back at their own choosing. 0.52
00:47:32.000 So we're seeing the birth rate just plummet because of that.
00:47:35.000 Secondly, we're seeing the marriage rate plummet.
00:47:37.000 Less and less people are getting married than ever before in American history.
00:47:41.000 We have more single men and women in their early 30s than married men and women in their early 30s.
00:47:47.000 Never happened before in American history.
00:47:49.000 And it makes sense, of course, because we prioritize sending them to college, which teaches them not to get married.
00:47:54.000 So, why should we be shocked that they don't get married?
00:47:57.000 Again, you might say, What do you mean they teach you not to get married?
00:47:59.000 Come with me to the University of Denver and sit in a sociology class.
00:48:05.000 They are taught that marriage is a misogynistic, open air prison.
00:48:09.000 They read feminist theory.
00:48:11.000 It's not an exaggeration. 1.00
00:48:12.000 They are taught that these are unjust, oppressive constructs.
00:48:17.000 So, we shouldn't be shocked that 10 years later, no one's having kids and the marriage rate plummets.
00:48:22.000 So, I think there are ways to fix this.
00:48:24.000 It's starting to begin to fix naturally.
00:48:27.000 Because we're seeing just the country fall apart as a lack of it.
00:48:30.000 But it's a serious problem.
00:48:32.000 And the Democrat Party is capitalizing on it.
00:48:35.000 The most reliable voting group for the Democrat Party are college educated single women living in urban areas with cats. 0.97
00:48:44.000 And I'm not kidding. 1.00
00:48:46.000 The cats I made up.
00:48:47.000 The other part is.
00:48:51.000 And they are incredibly loyal to the Democrat Party.
00:48:56.000 And there's a lot of reasons for that.
00:48:58.000 The data is amazing.
00:48:59.000 I wish Scott was still here because he would reinforce me on this.
00:49:01.000 The data is unbelievable.
00:49:03.000 As soon as they get married, if they get married, they go from 95% Democrat to like 55% Democrat.
00:49:10.000 Once they have kids, they become Republicans majority.
00:49:13.000 You can go from an adherent to the Democrat Party worldview to almost a Republican to a raging right winger by getting married and having children.
00:49:24.000 That's pretty incredible.
00:49:28.000 We have a question in the back.
00:49:30.000 I see, yep, standing up.
00:49:31.000 Do we have a mic ready?
00:49:32.000 Hello?
00:49:33.000 Yeah, okay, good.
00:49:34.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:49:35.000 My name is Esther Williams.
00:49:37.000 I am a Christian, conservative, did not go to college, and was also homeschooled all 12 years.
00:49:45.000 I have my parents to thank for that, for going against the grain.
00:49:51.000 More often than not, I'm shamed for either all four of those or one of those in not only this town, but in my generation.
00:49:59.000 My question to you, and I asked this very genuinely, is how does someone tap into their inner Charlie Kirk?
00:50:12.000 So, first of all, that's part of the book, which is you shouldn't care if they shame you.
00:50:16.000 And that's important, right?
00:50:18.000 I admit I have a genetic deformity.
00:50:19.000 I truly don't care what people think of me.
00:50:21.000 And I totally acknowledge it.
00:50:23.000 I think it's actually hilarious when people attack me.
00:50:26.000 I care if people I care about attack me or criticize me.
00:50:30.000 If my wife says something about me, or my close friends, or my pastor, then I listen. 0.89
00:50:35.000 But if some like purple haired jihadi, Just calls me like not wise or smart because I didn't go to college. 0.93
00:50:41.000 Like, okay, whatever. 0.97
00:50:43.000 And so it's about, as a Christian, I'll give you some advice just releasing that to the Lord and just being like that.
00:50:49.000 None of the approval of man matters at all.
00:50:52.000 The approval of man is actually a scorn, it says in the scriptures.
00:50:55.000 And that's, by the way, that is a discipline and a practice more than anything else.
00:51:00.000 You will get stronger at it the older you get and the more you decide not to care.
00:51:04.000 But you shouldn't become someone who is not able to receive loving advice or coaching from those who should be correcting you.
00:51:11.000 That's narcissistic type behavior, which no one should endorse.
00:51:14.000 So, yeah, look, I acknowledge it.
00:51:16.000 I've never been bothered by the mob hating me or the New York Times hating me or whatever.
00:51:23.000 In fact, I think it's one of our superpowers at Turning Point USA.
00:51:26.000 I really do.
00:51:27.000 That's great.
00:51:32.000 See, one more question, I think, and then we'll get pretty close.
00:51:36.000 Oh, great.
00:51:37.000 Yes.
00:51:37.000 Good to see you again.
00:51:38.000 Thank you.
00:51:39.000 So, are you going to go to college?
00:51:43.000 I'm a 13 year old and I'm going into eighth grade and I'm trying to make some positive change.
00:51:49.000 Like, I had this guy say that, like, you can't prove that God is real because every religion was made by man.
00:52:02.000 Is there, like, a way I could, like, deal with school?
00:52:07.000 Yeah.
00:52:08.000 So, yeah, I'll give you a fun counter be like, hey, you know, without God, there would be no atheists.
00:52:20.000 So, I didn't come up with that.
00:52:22.000 That's a G.K. Chesterton quote.
00:52:25.000 So, yeah, look, for an eighth grader, let me think about this.
00:52:29.000 Yeah, the best argument that you could probably give is that we now know because of science, thanks to science, that the universe had a beginning, and we call that the Big Bang.
00:52:41.000 And so, time, space, and matter started at a specific time.
00:52:44.000 Therefore, using the laws of logic, which are always applicable, in order to have time, space, and matter start, you need something that is outside of time, space, and matter.
00:52:53.000 And that thing is called God.
00:52:55.000 And so the question is who caused the Big Bang to actually go into effect?
00:53:00.000 We have an answer to that.
00:53:01.000 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 0.99
00:53:03.000 You see, the atheists, they have a tough task ahead of them.
00:53:06.000 And we as religious people must acknowledge our task. 0.98
00:53:09.000 We have to deal with suffering.
00:53:12.000 That is the hardest issue as a religious people to explain away unjust suffering.
00:53:17.000 Why does the kid get cancer?
00:53:19.000 Why does the loving wife die in a car accident? 0.99
00:53:21.000 It is the greatest challenge of religious people. 1.00
00:53:24.000 Atheists, they have to explain everything else. 1.00
00:53:27.000 They have to explain where these mountains came from, the earth, the planet, meaning, existence, morality, children, deoxo ribonucleic acid.
00:53:35.000 They have to say all of that is an act of randomness and chance.
00:53:40.000 I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
00:53:41.000 That's what you should tell your friend. 1.00
00:53:44.000 That's beautiful.
00:53:45.000 Thank you.
00:53:50.000 All right, we have time for just one more question.
00:53:52.000 Did I miss?
00:53:54.000 What is the hardest question you can ask?
00:53:57.000 Yeah, okay, there we go.
00:53:59.000 Thank you for being here, Charlie Kirk.
00:54:02.000 I am curious about how we, as brave conservatives, can be out in the world when we have a legal system that seems to be so against us.
00:54:10.000 We had Jonathan Turley here, thank you, Christina, who was saying that there are really basically no conservative professors out there.
00:54:20.000 And so, if we are trying to find justice, if we're fighting the good fight, And we know that we're going to this.
00:54:27.000 What advice do you have for us?
00:54:28.000 Yeah, so that's great.
00:54:29.000 I'll tell you my advice.
00:54:30.000 You just have to expect to end up in federal prison at some point.
00:54:35.000 It's true, right, Cleta?
00:54:38.000 And I mean, I don't invite it, but it's, you know how liberating it is once you say that and you're like, okay, great.
00:54:44.000 My wife knows it, my family knows it.
00:54:45.000 Like, okay.
00:54:48.000 We live in an open air Soviet country right now where people like me that have certain politics, we are relentlessly investigated.
00:54:54.000 We're relentlessly, you know, the government is obsessed with us, obviously.
00:54:58.000 Because we're effective and because we're outspoken and because we have opinions that they don't like.
00:55:02.000 And so, again, I don't expect people to have the attitude that I have, which is a whole of life, just like, hey, I might end up in Gitmo.
00:55:10.000 And if I do, then it will be a life well lived because I did the right thing.
00:55:15.000 But there's probably smaller versions of that.
00:55:19.000 And I'm a big believer that you cannot have beautiful things without sacrifice.
00:55:23.000 I think that is a law of nature.
00:55:25.000 I believe that we have the beautiful country that we have because of the sacrifice of.
00:55:29.000 The heroes at Normandy Beach, for example, and we remember that on D Day.
00:55:32.000 We remember the greatest generation.
00:55:34.000 I believe that we have the country because of the revolutionary generation that sacrificed, so on and so forth.
00:55:41.000 And so we can't continue to have a beautiful country if people aren't willing to sacrifice.
00:55:45.000 And I'm afraid that we kind of want it both ways.
00:55:48.000 We want the luxury of a great country, but not everyone wants the sacrifice.
00:55:54.000 I'm willing to do that.
00:55:55.000 And I know other people are too.
00:55:56.000 A lot of other great patriots.
00:55:58.000 And I will say, I'm not trying to do this.
00:55:59.000 Cleta is one of them.
00:56:01.000 I am so encouraged by how many people are willing to sacrifice everything they have to go into debt, to go into bankruptcy, to say, if I have to just never see my kids again.
00:56:12.000 There is a rising duty spirit in the conservative movement in this country that is so promising.
00:56:18.000 But I'm also not going to do hopium, hope and opium mixed together.
00:56:21.000 That feels good, but it's really bad for you.
00:56:25.000 If we're not successful in November, that will be the future for a lot of us.
00:56:29.000 It will be.
00:56:30.000 Maybe later than sooner, or sooner rather than later.
00:56:33.000 And you see what's happening.
00:56:34.000 Donald Trump will end up in federal prison if he doesn't win.
00:56:37.000 End of story, period.
00:56:38.000 And there will be many of us that they're going to try to do after that.
00:56:42.000 And bring it on.
00:56:44.000 We get to live in a great country that was once great.
00:56:47.000 We want to make it great again.
00:56:48.000 And I wouldn't want to live in any other time.
00:56:50.000 Because the civilization itself hangs in the balance.
00:56:54.000 And I consider myself and all of us that get to fight in it immensely blessed because the stakes have never been higher.
00:56:59.000 That's great.
00:57:07.000 Charlie, thank you so much.
00:57:08.000 This has been a delightful evening and a wonderful day for all of us.
00:57:13.000 I just want to say, this is a great organization.
00:57:16.000 They treated us so well.
00:57:17.000 I speak all across the country.
00:57:19.000 This is a first class operation, I got to tell you.
00:57:22.000 The Sun Valley Policy, this is a first class operation.
00:57:26.000 And I'm a tough grader.
00:57:28.000 So they treated us so well, so great, amazing hospitality.
00:57:33.000 And I love it here and I hope to return.
00:57:34.000 God bless you guys.
00:57:35.000 Thank you so much.
00:57:35.000 Thank you, everybody.
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