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00:00:51.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
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00:02:52.000Why are we locking down the entire civilization over this?
00:02:57.000What we were arguing together then was what became, led by Jay Bhattacharya and others, the Great Barrington Declaration, and everything we said was right.
00:03:07.000There's a simple way of remembering it, which is that everything that they said was misinformation turned out to be true, and everything that they said turned out to be misinformation.
00:03:15.000That's basically the story of those years.
00:03:24.000That's why I think it's I'm so happy you brought us back to this because they just want to forget about it.
00:03:28.000I mean, this is their tactic on everything, of course.
00:03:31.000Right now, they want us to forget that, you know, five minutes ago they were telling us Biden was fit and well, but this is what they do.
00:03:37.000They literally just move on and we've got to hold them accountable for these things that they said and did.
00:03:42.000You've been in media for some time, and again, what I loved about your program and working with you is that you would take the tough arguments on and be bipartisan in talking about how the swamp needs to be cleansed and purged.
00:03:54.000And I have a list of people that were morally clear on the lockdown issue, and it's a short list.
00:04:32.000I mean, it feels like ancient history.
00:04:35.000Someone needs to write a book about the anti-lockdown And it was really interesting, and I found myself thinking, none of this makes sense.
00:04:46.000And the thing that I really think is so important to remember is that even when you have some people now that say, well, yes, you know, with hindsight and after the event, you know, now we realize, no.
00:05:00.000We knew that the mask, I mean, I remember back in March reading a study that they did I think it was, I can't remember the exact location, but they tested the way the virus particles travelled, and I remember so clearly that they measured it in a room 30 feet through the air, because that's how they were transmitted.
00:05:25.000The concept of six feet social distancing was based on droplets that fall within that kind of range.
00:05:32.000And like back in March, we knew that they travel in through the air way further.
00:05:36.000In other words, all of the basis for the lockdowns, the six feet social distancing was rubbish.
00:05:53.000And we knew at the time and we said it at the time.
00:05:56.000And it was nothing more than just reading and speaking to people who actually knew what they were talking about and saying, this doesn't make sense.
00:06:04.000And you've just got to be clear in your convictions.
00:06:07.000And the same people that have told us the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation,
00:06:12.000that told us the lockdowns were necessary, that told us that the border is completely secure,
00:06:18.000that there is no inflation, and Joe Biden is of great mental acuity.
00:06:22.000I believe, Stephen, you're on the ground traveling a lot speaking to people.
00:06:27.000I do believe that one of the great positives of the last four years is the credibility of the mainstream press apparatus is the lowest it's ever been.
00:06:45.000That total lie that actually, I mean, Gavin Newsom, Outrageously telling people, if you don't get vaccinated, you're like a drunk driver because you're killing people.
00:07:06.000I put it out on a tweet the other day, like, just list the things where they told the exact opposite of the truth and then they just want to move on.
00:07:29.000So the first thing that comes to mind when you ask that question, there's a lot of things to say, but the first thing that comes to my mind is Do not feel sorry for Joe Biden.
00:07:59.000Because, again, I've said all along, I mean, I said it on my show before he was running, before he became president.
00:08:05.000In the campaign when you read about him, and here's a story about Joe Biden that not enough people know, but it's in a book that was written about the 1988 presidential primary, an amazing book called What It Takes by Ben Cramer.
00:08:20.000It's a big thick book about the 1988 primary and in effect it's like a mini biography Of six candidates, two Republicans, Bob Dole and George H.W.
00:11:16.000Now let's go to the 1988 presidential primary, the first time Joe Biden ran for president, and of course it all unraveled with a plagiarism.
00:11:26.000But actually what I learned from this book, because obviously I wasn't here at the time, it wasn't just the plagiarism.
00:13:16.000In 2020, he finished 5th in Iowa and 6th in New Hampshire.
00:13:21.000They reset the whole race in South Carolina with Jim Clyburn, with all the lockdowns, and they just got behind and said, I guess we can get behind Joe.
00:13:27.000And they ran a manufactured synthetic type campaign.
00:13:30.000And remember just these things that, you know, when people say, oh, it's all suddenly becoming apparent how absolutely useless he is and how his brain is shot to pieces and he's not qualified.
00:13:41.000In that moment, even in that moment, that crucial moment, remember this story that came out?
00:13:50.000And specifically, Clyburn, who was the person that brought him back from the dead, said to him, the way you do this is to promise that you'll appoint a black, was it a black Supreme Court Justice?
00:18:35.000There's like 10 aides that are around Biden.
00:18:37.000Say, okay, which one wants a million bucks and a book deal?
00:18:40.000But what's also hilarious about what's going on right now is that the other massive lie is being exposed, which is the endless repetition of Trump is a threat to democracy.
00:18:48.000Now they're openly saying they don't really mean it or believe it.
00:19:01.000He said, I don't like Jared Golden or something.
00:19:04.000That's another lie that's just, OK, we'll just abandon that one.
00:19:07.000But the thing is that they don't care.
00:19:09.000And so what they're all about is saving their own skins.
00:19:11.000And so that's, in the end, what's going to really drive this.
00:19:15.000And I think as another wrinkle here, which I think is critical, They constantly go through, every election cycle, a new apocalypse rallying cry.
00:20:05.000So Ohio has this law that if you are not on the ballot, I think by either July 25th or August 1st, if you are not the nominee, you're not on the ballot.
00:20:21.000And this is what I've been saying all along.
00:20:24.000He really just has to tough it out a few more days.
00:20:27.000So all these days of dithering, where they're sending these coded messages and whatever, he just needs to cling on a few days and he's got it.
00:20:34.000He could go to Camp David and say, I'm not leaving.
00:20:36.000And also, and the other brilliant thing I love is that, I put this out on X the other day, it's like, just watch, once he's nominated, the media go back to describing all this stuff about his age as, oh it's cheap fakes, we'll be back to cheap fakes, and how dare you question his capacity!
00:20:54.000I think the media has no credibility, but this couple week news cycle, it's It's very, very damaging to Biden long term with independence.
00:21:04.000I mean, the cake is baked of people's view of him.
00:21:07.000It's not as if he has a great press conference.
00:21:44.000The press going after a sitting incumbent Democrat president.
00:21:47.000By the way, Clinton wasn't even running for re-election, so they justified it with that.
00:21:50.000Yeah, they really see, I think they really believed that, like most stories like this, it's like nine or ten days and then things will move on.
00:22:52.000And like, you know, today he was out at 6 30 p.m.
00:22:56.000Again, I don't want to get too ahead of myself because I still think this election is a 50 50 chance because there's anything can happen in presidential politics.
00:23:03.000But the American people who have now seen a multiple week barrage of Joe Biden a month from now are going to see them in Chicago say really good things about him.
00:23:12.000Of course and that's what so but you know again I think it's it's this is real accountability because they've been lying for so long on so many things it is absolutely appropriate that they are humiliated themselves, the media, in the way that they've handled this.
00:23:28.000There's a new tweet here from Ezra Klein, who I think is pretty smart with this stuff.
00:23:31.000So here's what I'm hearing from congressional Democrats about Biden.
00:23:34.000He has done nothing to ally their fears, but his defiance and fury has been enough to stay their hand.
00:23:41.000This is arguably the worst of all worlds.
00:23:43.000Democrats realize they're drifting towards a grim march to defeat led by a candidate they've lost faith in, but don't have a plan to do anything about it.
00:23:51.000Congressional Democrats aren't yet at the point where they're going to abandon Biden en masse, nor are they at the point where their confidence in him is restored.
00:23:59.000They need some process that'll get them to one side or the other, and fast.
00:24:35.000And so I just think, no, you deserve absolutely everything.
00:24:38.000Here's the other point that needs to be made.
00:24:40.000Like, five minutes ago, practically, they were telling us that the reason that they have to stick with Biden is because Kamala would be so bad.
00:26:10.000And it's like, for the most part with the Democratic Party, they always make a bunch of promises that they can't deliver.
00:26:18.000You know, they use the issues of the African-American community as a soapbox to stand on and make promises, you know, just to get us to come out and vote.
00:26:27.000And then once we vote and everyone's in place, it's like, well, what happened?
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00:28:32.000So I'm very proud to be an American, but I'm also very proud to be a Californian, because to me, California, it's not just the beauty, it also represents something.
00:29:25.000I mean, they talk about the Supreme Court and that Trump can far right Supreme Court.
00:29:30.000The Supreme Court in California, which by the way, just took a ballot initiative off the ballot that was qualified by over a million signatures to stop the legislature raising taxes.
00:29:39.000Because there are six Democrats out of seven on the Supreme Court, so they control everything.
00:29:44.000So we've seen the results of this far-left experiment, and it is a total failure on every front.
00:29:50.000There's a simple way, I say this all the time, I'm up and down California now fighting for the change I think we need, and I just say there's a simple way to remember what they've done, which is that Basically, you take any issue, and California is now, out of all 50 states, top of every list that you want to be the bottom of, and bottom of every list that you want to be the top of.
00:30:12.000It's not even like we're the middle of the pack.
00:30:15.000We have, right now in California, the highest unemployment, the lowest income growth.
00:30:20.000The highest taxes, the highest rate of poverty, the highest housing costs, the lowest home ownership, the highest gas prices, the highest energy costs, the worst business climate, 50th out of 50, 10 years in a row.
00:30:33.000So it's a total failure on every front.
00:31:21.000And actually, it's a model of what not to do.
00:31:22.000Because the other reason everyone should be interested in this, whether or not you live in California, is that All of this far-left extremism that is now infecting the rest of the country, either where other states copy it, or more often where the federal Democrats take from California and then try to apply it top-down.
00:32:32.000It's a really interesting question because I don't think there's a... One of the things that people say, but I don't know if the data actually backs it up, but one thing you hear the whole time is that there was a ballot initiative in the late 90s promoted by Governor Pete Wilson.
00:32:49.000About removing public benefits for illegal immigrants.
00:32:53.000And so that Prop 187, so a lot of people, well that was the moment the Republican Party in California collapsed because it lost the trust of the Latino community which is the growing community.
00:33:02.000You look at what the Latino community today in California, I mean I don't know about, I wasn't there then, they are most incensed about what's going on.
00:33:10.000Here's just one example which is so offensive.
00:33:44.000It's a good job that earns enough to raise your family, to buy your own home, to send your kids to a good school where they get a decent education, not indoctrination, so they can have a better life than you.
00:34:39.000And it's all driven by Democrat policy.
00:34:42.000Extremism on environmental regulation and the unions who use lawsuits to sue housing projects in order to get higher wages and guaranteed union labour.
00:34:55.000In that circumstance, how offensive is it to a hard-working Latino family who are trying to buy a home for the first time for their family and climb that ladder of opportunity?
00:35:41.000It's not yet made its way through the legislature, but it gives you an idea of their mindset.
00:35:46.000So you don't think, though, that Prop 187 was the reason?
00:35:50.000Well I don't, I'm certainly, I don't know.
00:35:52.000I think Hollywood has a lot to do with it.
00:35:55.000And you've got this very big, and also you could add to that the tech community.
00:35:59.000I agree, I think those two things simultaneously, and a very weak Republican Party, and I also think that the emphasis, California became An emphasis of some of the culture war social issues that a lot of people migrated to the state that shared those values.
00:36:17.000Can I give you another practical thing that most people outside the state wouldn't be aware of?
00:36:22.000A change in the electoral system moved to what they call a top two system.
00:36:27.000So it got rid of the Democrat primary and the Republican primary.
00:36:36.000And so what you saw there... It effectively eliminates the Republican Party.
00:36:41.000And what that means is that the business organizations, who traditionally, you would have imagined, supported Republican candidates in the party, end up saying, well, Republicans can't win, so we've got to support the moderate Democrat.
00:36:57.000And I always say, how's that worked out for you?
00:37:00.000Since you've been supporting the so-called moderate Democrats.
00:37:02.000The state's gone left, left, left to the far left.
00:37:05.000And the disastrous consequences have followed.
00:37:08.000So I think that's a big part of it, where the kind of support for the Republican Party in California has been really kind of taken away by some of these structural changes in how we do elections.
00:37:19.000I want to make sure people understand that there's some people that say California's lost.
00:38:18.000And California is just such a beautiful place with wonderful, wonderful people that, like Jack Hibbs, we were talking about, I think listening on radio right now, who's decided, I'm not leaving.
00:38:29.000Well, this is what I say the whole time.
00:38:30.000Jack's amazing, and he's built an amazing community there.
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00:40:04.000So the thing I feel everyone needs to understand is that there is energy in California for change.
00:40:19.000Even if you look at elections, statewide elections in California in the last few years, the average Republican share of the vote, 41.7%.
00:40:28.000So, I know that's not a majority, but it's a lot closer than people think.
00:40:32.000And if you look at how badly, especially, you know, when you think about who's been really hurt by these far-left policies, there's a real parallel with what you see happening nationally and the Trump movement.
00:40:44.000It's the working class who's been hit the hardest, and working class Latinos.
00:40:49.000And so I feel like if we just Put out there a positive and practical common sense alternative.
00:42:16.000And that whole drive up the Five through L.A., you go to Oxnard, eventually up to Santa Barbara.
00:42:21.000It's one of the most beautiful corridors on the planet.
00:42:22.000But the thing is, Charlie, I'm gonna get, you know, rhapsodic now, because I'm on the road the whole time, and all the time I'm finding parts of California just amazing.
00:42:39.000There's an amazing drive, actually, that I did, I think it was in January, From San Diego, inland, the freeways, the 8, you go to Imperial County, over these incredible mountains.
00:42:50.000It's actually where a lot of Bill Malugin's reporting on the border is from.
00:42:58.000And then everywhere you go in California, you meet amazing people who've created incredible businesses.
00:43:03.000Everyone thinks about Hollywood and tech, but the engineering and the So Steve, your passion is to really energize the California grassroots and traditional Democrats are open to this message.
00:43:21.000I mean, all the time you'll see people and actually, by the way, it's not just applying to California.
00:43:26.000I've been seeing it even before the kind of insanity of the last few weeks about Biden and Trump.
00:43:32.000You know, people where I live in the Bay Area, very, very democratic part of the state.
00:43:38.000And people all the time are coming up to me, you know, people who I know have not only been, you know, Democrat voters but supporters and donors and hosted events for Democrat candidates saying, yeah, I don't know, I think we need a change.
00:43:51.000And they don't just mean that in California.
00:43:54.000Some of them saying, yeah, I think, I don't know, I'm not going to say it publicly, I think I might vote for Trump this time.
00:43:59.000That was happening even before the last few weeks.
00:44:03.000It's that thing where the left have just pushed people so far and it's so obviously failed that people are just saying, yeah, we can't go on like this.
00:44:18.000And it's going to be a big one, I think, with a lot of national implications, as I say, because so much of this far left extremism has come from California.
00:44:27.000If we can turn it back there, Here's a phrase I use so often when I'm on the road, and I think it really captures why this matters to everyone.
00:44:36.000I read it last year when I was reading about California's history.
00:44:41.000California means to America what America means to the world.
00:44:47.000It captures why that spirit of California, in a way it should be the best of America, the best of the values that we want to see for the whole country.
00:46:41.000Now I'm, you know, it's my small concession to the modern world.
00:46:44.000But I think that the message of More Human, that the world's become, everything's gone too big and bureaucratic and centralized and distant from the human scale.
00:46:53.000I think that's really, really important and something we should all take seriously.