The Charlie Kirk Show - Can California Ever Be Saved? ft. Steve Hilton

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00:00:04.000 We talk about Joe Biden, his biography, a lot on California, which I think you're going to love.

00:00:09.000 Will Joe Biden stay in the race?

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00:01:35.000 Okay everybody, real special guest, someone who's always been so good to me and I'm happy now to have him on my show.

00:01:41.000 I think I went on your show probably 50 times?

00:01:44.000 It was so amazing to get to know you and to see what you've built by coming here.

00:01:50.000 It's just such a thrill.

00:01:51.000 And now I can just sit back and relax while you ask the questions.

00:01:54.000 Charlie Kirk.

00:01:55.000 You were always so generous to me and boy, during that season, that show was one of the most powerful, influential shows.

00:02:01.000 And I just want to say, Steve, you deserve such credit.

00:02:04.000 I remember being on the phone with you during the beginning of the lockdowns.

00:02:07.000 Yes.

00:02:07.000 And you're like, this is completely wild.

00:02:10.000 Yes.

00:02:10.000 And you said it and Trump repeated it.

00:02:12.000 We had a whole show.

00:02:13.000 That was that night.

00:02:14.000 You were exactly right.

00:02:15.000 March 12th.

00:02:16.000 We talked about it.

00:02:17.000 I'm so glad you reminded me because so much madness has happened and it just got worse and worse.

00:02:23.000 Yes.

00:02:23.000 It's important.

00:02:24.000 We remember you were early and you were clear.

00:02:26.000 I remember it was March.

00:02:27.000 It was March of 2020.

00:02:29.000 Yes, and you said we cannot allow the cure to be worse than the disease.

00:02:33.000 That's right.

00:02:36.000 You're exactly right, Charlie.

00:02:37.000 We talked about it that week.

00:02:38.000 We said, what is going on?

00:02:40.000 How is this even possible?

00:02:41.000 We looked at all of the data.

00:02:43.000 We said, wait a second, you have the Princess cruise ship.

00:02:46.000 This thing isn't nearly as fatal as they're telling us.

00:02:49.000 It has about a 50% infectious rate.

00:02:52.000 Why are we locking down the entire civilization over this?

00:02:57.000 What we were arguing together then was what became, led by Jay Bhattacharya and others, the Great Barrington Declaration, and everything we said was right.

00:03:07.000 There's a simple way of remembering it, which is that everything that they said was misinformation turned out to be true, and everything that they said turned out to be misinformation.

00:03:15.000 That's basically the story of those years.

00:03:20.000 Unjust human suffering.

00:03:22.000 Yes.

00:03:22.000 That occurred for no reason.

00:03:24.000 That's why I think it's I'm so happy you brought us back to this because they just want to forget about it.

00:03:28.000 I mean, this is their tactic on everything, of course.

00:03:31.000 Right now, they want us to forget that, you know, five minutes ago they were telling us Biden was fit and well, but this is what they do.

00:03:37.000 They literally just move on and we've got to hold them accountable for these things that they said and did.

00:03:42.000 You've been in media for some time, and again, what I loved about your program and working with you is that you would take the tough arguments on and be bipartisan in talking about how the swamp needs to be cleansed and purged.

00:03:54.000 And I have a list of people that were morally clear on the lockdown issue, and it's a short list.

00:04:01.000 Dennis Prager was great on it.

00:04:03.000 You were great on it.

00:04:04.000 What was it about looking back that drew you to that opinion and that worldview?

00:04:11.000 Because so many people were afraid to resist this government tyranny.

00:04:15.000 I mean, I have to say, it was the facts.

00:04:18.000 It was actually just being clear about the facts.

00:04:22.000 I read people like Jay Bhattacharya, John Ioannidis, do you remember?

00:04:26.000 Yes.

00:04:27.000 He was looking at the numbers from Italy, do you remember, and analyzing what happened?

00:04:32.000 Yes.

00:04:32.000 I mean, it feels like ancient history.

00:04:35.000 Someone needs to write a book about the anti-lockdown And it was really interesting, and I found myself thinking, none of this makes sense.

00:04:44.000 What are we even doing here?

00:04:46.000 And the thing that I really think is so important to remember is that even when you have some people now that say, well, yes, you know, with hindsight and after the event, you know, now we realize, no.

00:04:56.000 That drives me nuts.

00:04:57.000 We knew it at the time.

00:04:58.000 Yes, I know.

00:04:59.000 We knew all of it at the time.

00:05:00.000 We knew that the mask, I mean, I remember back in March reading a study that they did I think it was, I can't remember the exact location, but they tested the way the virus particles travelled, and I remember so clearly that they measured it in a room 30 feet through the air, because that's how they were transmitted.

00:05:25.000 The concept of six feet social distancing was based on droplets that fall within that kind of range.

00:05:32.000 And like back in March, we knew that they travel in through the air way further. 0.88

00:05:36.000 In other words, all of the basis for the lockdowns, the six feet social distancing was rubbish. 0.99

00:05:40.000 It was ridiculous. 1.00

00:05:41.000 It was complete nonsense. 0.98

00:05:43.000 And now years later, finally Fauci.

00:05:46.000 I mean, it just enrages me.

00:05:48.000 And he says, he's asked, where did it come from?

00:05:50.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:05:50.000 It just sort of appeared.

00:05:52.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:05:53.000 And we knew at the time and we said it at the time.

00:05:56.000 And it was nothing more than just reading and speaking to people who actually knew what they were talking about and saying, this doesn't make sense.

00:06:04.000 And you've just got to be clear in your convictions.

00:06:07.000 And the same people that have told us the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation,

00:06:12.000 that told us the lockdowns were necessary, that told us that the border is completely secure,

00:06:18.000 that there is no inflation, and Joe Biden is of great mental acuity.

00:06:22.000 I believe, Stephen, you're on the ground traveling a lot speaking to people.

00:06:27.000 I do believe that one of the great positives of the last four years is the credibility of the mainstream press apparatus is the lowest it's ever been.

00:06:35.000 It's completely shot to pieces.

00:06:37.000 There's no credibility.

00:06:38.000 I mean, you could add to the list.

00:06:39.000 I mean, even within the within the pandemic and how that was handled, the vaccine mandate.

00:06:45.000 Yes.

00:06:45.000 That total lie that actually, I mean, Gavin Newsom, Outrageously telling people, if you don't get vaccinated, you're like a drunk driver because you're killing people.

00:06:55.000 Just an outrageous lie. 0.98

00:06:57.000 Which just means you're a criminal. 0.98

00:06:58.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:07:00.000 That's like calling the unvaccinated a criminal. 0.97

00:07:01.000 I mean, it's a crime to drive drunk.

00:07:02.000 It's one of the most egregious things.

00:07:04.000 And so there's so many examples.

00:07:06.000 I put it out on a tweet the other day, like, just list the things where they told the exact opposite of the truth and then they just want to move on.

00:07:14.000 Yes.

00:07:15.000 So now looking at the situation with Biden, by the way, I want to plug your books too, Positive Populism, we'll talk about that.

00:07:21.000 The situation with Biden, what is your take on this?

00:07:24.000 What do you think that we are missing in talking about this?

00:07:29.000 Right.

00:07:29.000 So the first thing that comes to mind when you ask that question, there's a lot of things to say, but the first thing that comes to my mind is Do not feel sorry for Joe Biden.

00:07:40.000 Do not have any sympathy for him.

00:07:42.000 Like, a lot of people are saying, well, it's so sad.

00:07:45.000 It's, you know, Megyn Kelly was saying this the other day, oh, we should feel sorry for him.

00:07:49.000 They should just put him out of his misery.

00:07:51.000 No. 0.96

00:07:52.000 And don't blame anyone else.

00:07:53.000 He is totally responsible for this and should be held accountable and deserve zero sympathy.

00:07:58.000 Why?

00:07:59.000 Because, again, I've said all along, I mean, I said it on my show before he was running, before he became president.

00:08:05.000 In the campaign when you read about him, and here's a story about Joe Biden that not enough people know, but it's in a book that was written about the 1988 presidential primary, an amazing book called What It Takes by Ben Cramer.

00:08:20.000 It's a big thick book about the 1988 primary and in effect it's like a mini biography Of six candidates, two Republicans, Bob Dole and George H.W.

00:08:30.000 Bush.

00:08:31.000 And on the Democrat side, Michael Dukakis, Gary Hart, Richard Gephardt and Joe Biden.

00:08:40.000 And it's an amazing book for me as a new American.

00:08:42.000 I learned so much about the country.

00:08:44.000 It's a beautifully written book.

00:08:45.000 The stories of their lives interwoven and so on.

00:08:47.000 There's incredible information there about Joe Biden.

00:08:50.000 In his 20, I think he's even 20 years old, he was dating his first wife who died tragically in that car accident.

00:08:57.000 They go back to see the parents.

00:08:59.000 She takes him to see the parents for the first time.

00:09:04.000 It's like in the early 60s.

00:09:05.000 And they say, oh, Joe, what are you thinking of doing?

00:09:08.000 I'm going to be president.

00:09:11.000 They say, oh, President of what?

00:09:13.000 He says, President of the United States.

00:09:16.000 This man has been plotting and scheming to get this job since he was like 20 years old.

00:09:22.000 61 years ago.

00:09:23.000 So the idea that this is about anything other than his personal ambition.

00:09:29.000 The idea that he's just going to give it up is a joke.

00:09:32.000 And if you look at his entire career, it's been about nothing but advancing himself and

00:09:37.000 climbing that ladder. 0.96

00:09:38.000 He is someone, he's a total mediocrity.

00:09:40.000 He's the worst kind of machine politician, believes in nothing except his own advancement. 0.90

00:09:45.000 He's been on every side of every issue. 1.00

00:09:49.000 He is a total disgrace. 0.92

00:09:50.000 I mean, I try and see the good in people and I even with, you know, politicians I disagree 0.98

00:09:56.000 with and I can see some things that people like Hillary Clinton, at least she's consistent 1.00

00:10:00.000 on some issues, Barack Obama, whatever.

00:10:01.000 Biden is the absolute worst example of a machine politician with zero convictions or principles.

00:10:07.000 He deserves everything he's getting now because it's all in pursuit of his own narcissism,

00:10:11.000 vanity and ambition.

00:10:13.000 I'm so glad you said that, because it drives me nuts when people say, well, I feel really sorry for him, and he's a good man.

00:10:20.000 I mean, how many times do I have to hear this?

00:10:22.000 He has sold out his country repeatedly, and he has no core beliefs, which honestly is the most dangerous type of politician.

00:10:28.000 Exactly.

00:10:29.000 Bernie Sanders has core beliefs.

00:10:31.000 I can deal with that because I know what he believes and we can see where we fit and where

00:10:35.000 we can oppose. Someone who has no core beliefs can be bought and paid for easily manipulated.

00:10:40.000 He has been all his career. Yes. I mean, and by the way, he kind of won in a fluke

00:10:44.000 Senate race in Delaware and the mob was probably involved.

00:10:47.000 I mean, his entire life has been cheating death, literally from the brain aneurysm to the

00:10:53.000 car accident with his wife.

00:10:57.000 He's 81.

00:10:57.000 He told, when he was 20 years old, he said, I'm going to be president.

00:11:00.000 Yeah.

00:11:00.000 I mean, I don't know, 20, maybe 25.

00:11:02.000 You know, he was before they were married.

00:11:05.000 The first time he met her parents, it's in this book.

00:11:07.000 He's not going to give up power.

00:11:09.000 Here's the other part of it.

00:11:10.000 The Jill Biden part in that book.

00:11:12.000 Same book.

00:11:12.000 Amazing.

00:11:13.000 What it takes.

00:11:13.000 Ben Kramer.

00:11:16.000 Now let's go to the 1988 presidential primary, the first time Joe Biden ran for president, and of course it all unraveled with a plagiarism.

00:11:26.000 But actually what I learned from this book, because obviously I wasn't here at the time, it wasn't just the plagiarism.

00:11:33.000 The plagiarism was the first thing.

00:11:35.000 It was actually Maureen Dowd from the New York Times who broke that story.

00:11:38.000 And now he still reads her.

00:11:40.000 She's a political reporter.

00:11:41.000 She broke the story of the famous speech that we still see the video.

00:11:45.000 It was actually for British politician, Neil Kinnock.

00:11:47.000 He plagiarized that speech.

00:11:49.000 But then what you saw was a succession of stories, not as well known today, about him.

00:11:55.000 There was other examples of plagiarism, but there were also examples that kept coming out

00:12:01.000 of him making things up, embellishing his resume, exaggerating his qualifications and what he did at college

00:12:11.000 and all these things.

00:12:11.000 So it was this drip, drip, drip of stories about Biden.

00:12:15.000 And over the weeks, His team told him, look, it's over.

00:12:21.000 You've got to pull out.

00:12:22.000 Get out of the race.

00:12:24.000 Save yourself for another time.

00:12:26.000 This is not going to work.

00:12:27.000 You have to go out with dignity.

00:12:29.000 Sounds familiar.

00:12:30.000 And all through that period, there was one person saying, no, don't listen to them, Joe.

00:12:36.000 Stay in the race.

00:12:37.000 Don't get out.

00:12:38.000 Guess who?

00:12:38.000 Jill Biden.

00:12:39.000 So she played that role.

00:12:41.000 But he did get out of the race.

00:12:43.000 Wow.

00:12:43.000 Eventually.

00:12:44.000 But it was 1988, and it was she.

00:12:46.000 So this is a guy who feels as if he's been slighted by the Obamas and the Clintons in one way or the other.

00:12:51.000 Now, remember that in 2016, he was the active vice president of Obama.

00:12:57.000 Yes.

00:12:58.000 And Obama said, nope, it's Hillary's turn, not you. 0.99

00:13:02.000 And when he ran in 2018, he had a very difficult year.

00:13:07.000 His son died.

00:13:08.000 There was a lot of family.

00:13:09.000 Obviously, Hunter was selling out America.

00:13:11.000 Yes.

00:13:12.000 We know this because of the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:13:13.000 It's not speculation.

00:13:14.000 We see the message.

00:13:15.000 It's very dysfunctional.

00:13:16.000 In 2020, he finished 5th in Iowa and 6th in New Hampshire.

00:13:21.000 They reset the whole race in South Carolina with Jim Clyburn, with all the lockdowns, and they just got behind and said, I guess we can get behind Joe.

00:13:27.000 And they ran a manufactured synthetic type campaign.

00:13:30.000 Yes. 0.94

00:13:30.000 And remember just these things that, you know, when people say, oh, it's all suddenly becoming apparent how absolutely useless he is and how his brain is shot to pieces and he's not qualified. 0.94

00:13:41.000 In that moment, even in that moment, that crucial moment, remember this story that came out?

00:13:45.000 One of the books.

00:13:46.000 So it was the South Carolina primary.

00:13:48.000 There was a debate.

00:13:48.000 I think it was CNN.

00:13:49.000 I can't remember.

00:13:50.000 And specifically, Clyburn, who was the person that brought him back from the dead, said to him, the way you do this is to promise that you'll appoint a black, was it a black Supreme Court Justice?

00:14:04.000 Both.

00:14:04.000 I think it was a black VP or black female.

00:14:07.000 No, I think it was black female Supreme Court Justice. 1.00

00:14:09.000 I think that was it.

00:14:11.000 I'll be correct if I'm wrong.

00:14:13.000 He forgot to say it.

00:14:15.000 Biden forgot to say it.

00:14:17.000 Really?

00:14:17.000 Clyburn literally had to run onto the stage in one of the breaks to tell.

00:14:21.000 It was like the show was running out.

00:14:23.000 I can't believe it was Clyburn of his age.

00:14:25.000 Like someone had to run and tell him.

00:14:27.000 I did never hear that story.

00:14:27.000 Wow.

00:14:28.000 That's in one of these books that was written, you know, about the campaign.

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00:16:28.000 I'm going to stay on this Biden stuff, and we have tons of time, so we'll get to the Golden Together stuff, which I love, by the way.

00:16:33.000 I love it, because I have a heart for California.

00:16:35.000 I really do.

00:16:36.000 So help me understand, based on Joe Biden's biographical background, I don't see him giving up this almost under any circumstances.

00:16:46.000 No, I think it's incredibly hard.

00:16:48.000 I've always had this view that he's going to be—a lot of people have said they're going to switch him out.

00:16:53.000 Tommy Lehrer has always been saying it's going to be Gavin Newsom and so on.

00:16:56.000 I've always felt that the most likely outcome is that he remains the candidate.

00:16:59.000 I've always felt that.

00:17:00.000 I think I still even think that today, despite everything.

00:17:04.000 He's incredibly unreasonable.

00:17:06.000 Because he's just... I mean, again, these stories that come out, drip, drip, drip, and we've seen it increasingly.

00:17:13.000 He's very angry.

00:17:13.000 He's a bitter individual.

00:17:15.000 He's stubborn. 0.88

00:17:16.000 He's very bitter.

00:17:17.000 He feels slighted all his life.

00:17:19.000 as you said by the Obama crowd and that's happening all over again.

00:17:22.000 So when you have the Pod Save America guys and the Obama people...

00:17:26.000 Who are their lieutenants?

00:17:27.000 Of course, they're the core Obama team telling him to get out.

00:17:32.000 That's going to make him even more stubborn.

00:17:34.000 Not again, I'm not having Obama again looking down his nose at me.

00:17:38.000 So this is who he is.

00:17:40.000 He's this absolute, he's a very small person.

00:17:43.000 I mean, I've said before, you know, politically, he's a nothing.

00:17:46.000 He's a non-entity.

00:17:47.000 He's got nothing. There's nothing there other than his own ego.

00:17:51.000 And bitter is a great word to describe it.

00:17:54.000 And that's why, I mean, in the end, they can't make him.

00:17:57.000 I mean, I suppose that's the scenario that I was thinking about,

00:18:00.000 like what would really force him out?

00:18:02.000 For example, if you had Obama himself personally and Bill Clinton together, for example, go on television.

00:18:10.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:18:11.000 I think something of that magnitude.

00:18:13.000 Or I think step one would be find a White House aide.

00:18:17.000 Right.

00:18:18.000 Get them a book deal.

00:18:19.000 Get them a network primetime interview.

00:18:22.000 And they say, Joe Biden doesn't know where he is half the time.

00:18:24.000 Yes.

00:18:25.000 And this is a threat to national security.

00:18:28.000 That's another scenario.

00:18:28.000 That works as well.

00:18:29.000 I agree with that.

00:18:30.000 So that would be the easier way than Obama.

00:18:32.000 Obama could configure that.

00:18:34.000 They could go through the roster.

00:18:35.000 There's like 10 aides that are around Biden.

00:18:37.000 Say, okay, which one wants a million bucks and a book deal?

00:18:40.000 But what's also hilarious about what's going on right now is that the other massive lie is being exposed, which is the endless repetition of Trump is a threat to democracy.

00:18:48.000 Now they're openly saying they don't really mean it or believe it.

00:18:51.000 They've never believed it.

00:18:52.000 I know.

00:18:52.000 And they just say it.

00:18:53.000 Ezra Klein came that out in his podcast.

00:18:55.000 That's right.

00:18:56.000 And one of the other members of Congress said, well, I don't really mind if Trump wins.

00:18:59.000 One of the guys from Maine.

00:19:00.000 That's right.

00:19:01.000 He said, I don't like Jared Golden or something.

00:19:04.000 That's another lie that's just, OK, we'll just abandon that one.

00:19:07.000 But the thing is that they don't care.

00:19:09.000 And so what they're all about is saving their own skins.

00:19:11.000 And so that's, in the end, what's going to really drive this.

00:19:15.000 And I think as another wrinkle here, which I think is critical, They constantly go through, every election cycle, a new apocalypse rallying cry.

00:19:25.000 Democracy's at stake.

00:19:26.000 With Mitt Romney, it was that the country's going to collapse, or that we're going to go to war against Russia, or something.

00:19:32.000 Well, we are at war against Russia, unnecessarily now.

00:19:35.000 And so I'm with you, Steve.

00:19:37.000 Unless they have a Clinton-Obama joint thing or a White House aid, but they're running out of time.

00:19:45.000 There's 10 days left.

00:19:46.000 And also, what's interesting to me, and I don't know enough about it, so I'm just reading whatever it reads.

00:19:51.000 It's just coming out all the time.

00:19:53.000 But these, you know, very practical points.

00:19:55.000 For example, they've organized this roll call to do the nomination.

00:19:59.000 So it's not even the convention.

00:20:00.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:20:01.000 It's in 10 days.

00:20:02.000 Right.

00:20:02.000 So it's because Ohio's the forcing function.

00:20:04.000 Yes.

00:20:05.000 So Ohio has this law that if you are not on the ballot, I think by either July 25th or August 1st, if you are not the nominee, you're not on the ballot.

00:20:11.000 Yes.

00:20:11.000 So this is the forcing function.

00:20:13.000 And Joe Biden is going to be nominated as the nominee via Zoom on July 21st.

00:20:20.000 I mean, that's right.

00:20:21.000 And this is what I've been saying all along.

00:20:24.000 He really just has to tough it out a few more days.

00:20:27.000 So all these days of dithering, where they're sending these coded messages and whatever, he just needs to cling on a few days and he's got it.

00:20:34.000 He could go to Camp David and say, I'm not leaving.

00:20:36.000 And also, and the other brilliant thing I love is that, I put this out on X the other day, it's like, just watch, once he's nominated, the media go back to describing all this stuff about his age as, oh it's cheap fakes, we'll be back to cheap fakes, and how dare you question his capacity!

00:20:54.000 I think the media has no credibility, but this couple week news cycle, it's It's very, very damaging to Biden long term with independence.

00:21:04.000 I mean, the cake is baked of people's view of him.

00:21:07.000 It's not as if he has a great press conference.

00:21:08.000 So you know what?

00:21:09.000 I think he's got it.

00:21:11.000 Because all the material from the Democrats.

00:21:14.000 Yes, I agree.

00:21:15.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:21:16.000 It's actually a very... I mean, you know, these words we throw out, it feels like a really historic kind of period we're in watching this.

00:21:25.000 This is a really unbelievable... Steve, no one's lived through anything like this.

00:21:29.000 It's incredible.

00:21:29.000 I mean, I believe... I was five years old at the time, so I don't remember it.

00:21:34.000 The press has not been this sustained against a Democrat president since Clinton's impeachment.

00:21:39.000 Lying about Monica Lewinsky.

00:21:41.000 Right.

00:21:41.000 Have you seen in the modern era?

00:21:43.000 No, nothing like this.

00:21:44.000 The press going after a sitting incumbent Democrat president.

00:21:47.000 By the way, Clinton wasn't even running for re-election, so they justified it with that.

00:21:50.000 Yeah, they really see, I think they really believed that, like most stories like this, it's like nine or ten days and then things will move on.

00:21:59.000 We're plus two weeks now.

00:22:00.000 And I think that's why they were so poorly organized in the defense that they mounted.

00:22:06.000 Oh, we'll do an interview with Stefanov and then in the July 4th weekend.

00:22:08.000 Because they're used to things fading.

00:22:10.000 And it'll be okay in the holiday weekend and we'll be back to normal.

00:22:13.000 And I just think they truly can't comprehend the magnitude of the rejection from within the party.

00:22:21.000 And every time they think that they've locked it down, I think on Monday this week, they thought they'd done it.

00:22:25.000 They had the letter and it looked strong and then NATO would come in and clean it all up.

00:22:28.000 And no, it's not.

00:22:30.000 Going away.

00:22:31.000 It's really interesting.

00:22:31.000 But as we said earlier, he doesn't have to cling on that long for it to become a fait accompli.

00:22:37.000 And then they're going to have to rally around him, which is so hilarious, given what they've all been saying.

00:22:41.000 They're all going to be giving convention speeches.

00:22:43.000 And I know I said what I said, but he's the best I've ever seen him.

00:22:47.000 He's great.

00:22:48.000 He went 30 minutes without a nap this afternoon.

00:22:51.000 It's amazing, isn't it?

00:22:52.000 And like, you know, today he was out at 6 30 p.m.

00:22:56.000 Again, I don't want to get too ahead of myself because I still think this election is a 50 50 chance because there's anything can happen in presidential politics.

00:23:03.000 But the American people who have now seen a multiple week barrage of Joe Biden a month from now are going to see them in Chicago say really good things about him.

00:23:11.000 They say, wait a second.

00:23:12.000 Of course and that's what so but you know again I think it's it's this is real accountability because they've been lying for so long on so many things it is absolutely appropriate that they are humiliated themselves, the media, in the way that they've handled this.

00:23:28.000 There's a new tweet here from Ezra Klein, who I think is pretty smart with this stuff.

00:23:31.000 So here's what I'm hearing from congressional Democrats about Biden.

00:23:34.000 He has done nothing to ally their fears, but his defiance and fury has been enough to stay their hand.

00:23:41.000 This is arguably the worst of all worlds.

00:23:43.000 Democrats realize they're drifting towards a grim march to defeat led by a candidate they've lost faith in, but don't have a plan to do anything about it.

00:23:51.000 Congressional Democrats aren't yet at the point where they're going to abandon Biden en masse, nor are they at the point where their confidence in him is restored.

00:23:59.000 They need some process that'll get them to one side or the other, and fast.

00:24:04.000 Here's one suggestion.

00:24:05.000 Building up something Bernie Sanders said.

00:24:07.000 I don't know what Bernie Sanders said.

00:24:08.000 It's some op-ed here.

00:24:09.000 But they're in a tough... It just makes me... I've got to say... I am enjoying this.

00:24:13.000 The word schadenfreude was made for this moment.

00:24:15.000 I was going to use it, but I...

00:24:17.000 It just couldn't happen to a nicer party.

00:24:20.000 I feel no guilt.

00:24:21.000 No, because they're so viciously cruel and dishonest for years and years and years towards their political opponents.

00:24:32.000 And anyone that dares challenge them.

00:24:34.000 With maximum ferocity.

00:24:35.000 And so I just think, no, you deserve absolutely everything.

00:24:38.000 Here's the other point that needs to be made.

00:24:40.000 Like, five minutes ago, practically, they were telling us that the reason that they have to stick with Biden is because Kamala would be so bad.

00:24:49.000 They were saying that.

00:24:50.000 Like, that's the reason.

00:24:51.000 Oh, yeah, he was supposed to hand over.

00:24:52.000 He didn't mean it when it was going to be a bridge.

00:24:54.000 But then it turned out how terrible she is, so he's got to stay.

00:24:58.000 They were saying that.

00:24:59.000 That was their briefing.

00:25:00.000 And now it's like, oh, Kamala's the answer.

00:25:03.000 I mean, that's, again, a total dishonesty.

00:25:04.000 And she's deeply unpopular.

00:25:06.000 And they can't, if they were, they can't jump over her.

00:25:10.000 They can't.

00:25:10.000 Well, that's why this is all so hilarious, because they're hoisted on their DEI nonsense and their identity politics.

00:25:15.000 Yes, they're all in on it.

00:25:16.000 They know she's terrible, but it's just like with Biden.

00:25:20.000 Like, well, who else have they got?

00:25:21.000 And they can't do anything about her because of the identity politics.

00:25:24.000 I want to play this piece of tape here.

00:25:25.000 The Daily Show asked a random group of black New Yorkers if they'd vote for Trump.

00:25:29.000 They didn't get an answer that they would have planned.

00:25:31.000 Let's play Cut 120.

00:25:33.000 Okay, so who will you be voting for in 2024, Daryl?

00:25:37.000 Do I have to say his name?

00:25:39.000 I don't want to, but more than likely it's going to be Trump.

00:25:42.000 Yeah, unbelievable.

00:25:43.000 Unbelievable.

00:25:44.000 Who are you going to be voting for?

00:25:46.000 Biden.

00:25:47.000 And then, Victor?

00:25:48.000 Oh, Biden, okay.

00:25:48.000 I'm with her.

00:25:49.000 Trump.

00:25:50.000 Trump?

00:25:51.000 Biden.

00:25:51.000 Biden?

00:25:52.000 Trump.

00:25:53.000 Okay, we're an even split, which, yeah, I didn't see that coming.

00:26:01.000 So do you think there's going to be a big shift, any sort of change?

00:26:04.000 I think it's going to be a big shift.

00:26:05.000 Big shift?

00:26:05.000 Me too.

00:26:06.000 Yes.

00:26:07.000 Okay.

00:26:07.000 Really?

00:26:08.000 For me, I've always been a Democrat.

00:26:10.000 And it's like, for the most part with the Democratic Party, they always make a bunch of promises that they can't deliver.

00:26:18.000 You know, they use the issues of the African-American community as a soapbox to stand on and make promises, you know, just to get us to come out and vote. 1.00

00:26:27.000 And then once we vote and everyone's in place, it's like, well, what happened?

00:26:32.000 That's powerful, isn't it?

00:26:33.000 She absolutely nailed it.

00:26:35.000 And that is true for black voters. 1.00

00:26:38.000 It's also true, you know, I'm very focused on California Latino voters.

00:26:42.000 It's exactly the same.

00:26:43.000 I love it.

00:26:44.000 Something's changing.

00:26:45.000 And as the media collapses, people's eyes are open.

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00:27:50.000 I have a heart for California.

00:27:51.000 I visit it frequently.

00:27:52.000 Some of my closest friends are in California.

00:27:55.000 It is, without a doubt, the most beautiful state in the Union.

00:27:58.000 Maybe Alaska is more beautiful, but beautiful in the contiguous 48 states.

00:28:04.000 And it has been damaged and ruined by one-party rule.

00:28:07.000 Tell us about your passion for California.

00:28:09.000 Well, you're right.

00:28:10.000 I mean, look, it's my home.

00:28:13.000 We've been there since 2012, when we moved.

00:28:16.000 I should say, just soon after July the 4th, I made a little video about this, just so everyone's clear.

00:28:24.000 248 years ago, America declared independence from the Brits, and three years ago, so did I. That's amazing.

00:28:29.000 So I'm an American now.

00:28:30.000 Welcome!

00:28:31.000 We need more Americans like you.

00:28:32.000 So I'm very proud to be an American, but I'm also very proud to be a Californian, because to me, California, it's not just the beauty, it also represents something.

00:28:40.000 It's an idea.

00:28:41.000 The idea of optimism and energy and innovation.

00:28:44.000 Yes, I totally agree.

00:28:46.000 And rebelliousness actually and like doing your own thing and the pioneering spirit.

00:28:46.000 Go West!

00:28:51.000 That's what it really captures for me.

00:28:54.000 And of course that's been totally crushed and now you see the results of what I describe as this hard left experiment.

00:29:00.000 So we've seen it in action because as you say it's been one party rule.

00:29:04.000 The Republicans have not controlled any either of the chambers in the state legislature for like over 20 years.

00:29:11.000 The last time there was a Republican elected statewide, 2006, Arnold Schwarzenegger's re-election.

00:29:16.000 A lot of people would even dispute whether his second term was that Republican anyway.

00:29:20.000 No, it wasn't.

00:29:21.000 And so you've had one party rule.

00:29:23.000 All the levels of power.

00:29:25.000 I mean, they talk about the Supreme Court and that Trump can far right Supreme Court.

00:29:30.000 The Supreme Court in California, which by the way, just took a ballot initiative off the ballot that was qualified by over a million signatures to stop the legislature raising taxes.

00:29:39.000 Because there are six Democrats out of seven on the Supreme Court, so they control everything.

00:29:44.000 So we've seen the results of this far-left experiment, and it is a total failure on every front.

00:29:50.000 There's a simple way, I say this all the time, I'm up and down California now fighting for the change I think we need, and I just say there's a simple way to remember what they've done, which is that Basically, you take any issue, and California is now, out of all 50 states, top of every list that you want to be the bottom of, and bottom of every list that you want to be the top of.

00:30:12.000 It's not even like we're the middle of the pack.

00:30:15.000 We have, right now in California, the highest unemployment, the lowest income growth.

00:30:20.000 The highest taxes, the highest rate of poverty, the highest housing costs, the lowest home ownership, the highest gas prices, the highest energy costs, the worst business climate, 50th out of 50, 10 years in a row.

00:30:33.000 So it's a total failure on every front.

00:30:36.000 So we've seen the results.

00:30:38.000 And so it's very clear to so many people that it's time for change in California.

00:30:43.000 And so what we need is a positive, common-sense alternative, which has been lacking for people.

00:30:49.000 And so that's really what I'm focused on.

00:30:51.000 I love it.

00:30:52.000 Is to say, look, we know we need change.

00:30:54.000 That is obvious.

00:30:54.000 We don't need to persuade people of that.

00:30:56.000 I mean, the list could get even longer.

00:30:59.000 The most visible examples, which the whole country sees, of course, homelessness and the crime.

00:31:03.000 Oh, it's terrible.

00:31:04.000 The crime is out of control.

00:31:05.000 Totally.

00:31:07.000 It's obvious that we need to change.

00:31:10.000 And it's laughable when you see Gavin Newsom say, as he continues to do, we're a model for the nation.

00:31:16.000 It's the exact opposite.

00:31:17.000 It's also so insulting.

00:31:19.000 What is he talking about? 1.00

00:31:20.000 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:31:21.000 And actually, it's a model of what not to do.

00:31:22.000 Because the other reason everyone should be interested in this, whether or not you live in California, is that All of this far-left extremism that is now infecting the rest of the country, either where other states copy it, or more often where the federal Democrats take from California and then try to apply it top-down.

00:31:41.000 It comes from California.

00:31:42.000 The climate extremism, all those, you know, banning gas cars and gas stoves and all this stuff, all started in California.

00:31:50.000 The gender extremism, the race extremism, all of these things on economics.

00:31:54.000 The insane over-regulation of business, the minimum wage, the caving into the unions, what's going on in schools, all of this stuff.

00:32:02.000 California is the incubator, if you like, the Wuhan lab of far-left extremism, and it's infecting the rest of the country.

00:32:09.000 So we all need to fight back.

00:32:10.000 I totally agree, and I'm 100% behind it.

00:32:13.000 I want to just do a little bit of history, though.

00:32:14.000 How did it become this?

00:32:15.000 The land of Nixon, the land of Reagan, the place where they'd say Orange County would never go anything but red.

00:32:23.000 How did California go from one of the reddest states, one of the most patriotic states, to now what it is? 0.81

00:32:29.000 What changed and who made it happen?

00:32:32.000 It's a really interesting question because I don't think there's a... One of the things that people say, but I don't know if the data actually backs it up, but one thing you hear the whole time is that there was a ballot initiative in the late 90s promoted by Governor Pete Wilson.

00:32:49.000 About removing public benefits for illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:32:52.000 I remember this.

00:32:53.000 And so that Prop 187, so a lot of people, well that was the moment the Republican Party in California collapsed because it lost the trust of the Latino community which is the growing community.

00:33:02.000 You look at what the Latino community today in California, I mean I don't know about, I wasn't there then, they are most incensed about what's going on. 0.99

00:33:10.000 Here's just one example which is so offensive.

00:33:13.000 You think about the California dream.

00:33:15.000 That's how I frame what we're doing.

00:33:17.000 So my organization, Golden Together, our mission is to develop ideas to help restore the California Dream.

00:33:23.000 Latinos, now the largest group in California, 40%.

00:33:26.000 The demographics of California, 40% Latino, 35% White, 15% Asian, 5% Black, 5% Native American.

00:33:34.000 That's remarkable.

00:33:35.000 So it's the largest group.

00:33:36.000 In public schools, 56% of the kids are Latino.

00:33:39.000 Latinos, they want the California Dream. 0.99

00:33:42.000 It's not complicated what they want.

00:33:44.000 It's a good job that earns enough to raise your family, to buy your own home, to send your kids to a good school where they get a decent education, not indoctrination, so they can have a better life than you.

00:33:56.000 The California Dream.

00:33:58.000 That has been ripped away.

00:33:59.000 And so now you see that change in Latinos in California who are saying, sorry, just like we saw in that video just now.

00:34:06.000 For years, the Democrats have been preaching to us about how they're for us.

00:34:09.000 Actually, they're not delivering.

00:34:11.000 And particularly when you look at this question of illegal immigration, some of the strongest voices against what's going on are Latinos.

00:34:19.000 I'll give you one example that is so outrageous when you think about the fact that we now have the highest housing costs in America.

00:34:25.000 Only 15% of Californians can afford the median house price in California.

00:34:31.000 It is out of control.

00:34:32.000 Driven, by the way, by Democrat policy.

00:34:34.000 You need to earn $130,000 a year to be able to own a home.

00:34:38.000 It's just insane.

00:34:39.000 And it's all driven by Democrat policy.

00:34:42.000 Extremism on environmental regulation and the unions who use lawsuits to sue housing projects in order to get higher wages and guaranteed union labour.

00:34:52.000 It's all driven by Democrat policy.

00:34:54.000 But guess what?

00:34:55.000 In that circumstance, how offensive is it to a hard-working Latino family who are trying to buy a home for the first time for their family and climb that ladder of opportunity?

00:35:06.000 Guess what they just pushed through?

00:35:08.000 They're trying to get through the state legislature.

00:35:11.000 Unbelievably offensive.

00:35:12.000 Taxpayer-funded down payment assistance for illegal immigrants.

00:35:17.000 Oh, you're kidding me.

00:35:18.000 For illegal immigrants. 0.79

00:35:23.000 You're no longer a state or a country if foreign nationals get subsidized benefits. 1.00

00:35:27.000 Barely anyone in California can afford a home, so what are they doing?

00:35:31.000 They're taking the taxes of hard-working Latino families to give down payment assistance. 0.59

00:35:38.000 I should say, that's a proposal.

00:35:41.000 It's not yet made its way through the legislature, but it gives you an idea of their mindset.

00:35:46.000 So you don't think, though, that Prop 187 was the reason?

00:35:50.000 Well I don't, I'm certainly, I don't know.

00:35:52.000 I think Hollywood has a lot to do with it.

00:35:55.000 And you've got this very big, and also you could add to that the tech community.

00:35:59.000 I agree, I think those two things simultaneously, and a very weak Republican Party, and I also think that the emphasis, California became An emphasis of some of the culture war social issues that a lot of people migrated to the state that shared those values.

00:36:17.000 Can I give you another practical thing that most people outside the state wouldn't be aware of?

00:36:22.000 A change in the electoral system moved to what they call a top two system.

00:36:27.000 So it got rid of the Democrat primary and the Republican primary.

00:36:31.000 Oh no, I totally agree.

00:36:32.000 That's recent though.

00:36:34.000 I think it was 2010.

00:36:35.000 Is it?

00:36:35.000 Okay, I didn't know.

00:36:36.000 And so what you saw there... It effectively eliminates the Republican Party.

00:36:41.000 And what that means is that the business organizations, who traditionally, you would have imagined, supported Republican candidates in the party, end up saying, well, Republicans can't win, so we've got to support the moderate Democrat.

00:36:56.000 That's right.

00:36:57.000 And I always say, how's that worked out for you?

00:37:00.000 Since you've been supporting the so-called moderate Democrats.

00:37:02.000 The state's gone left, left, left to the far left.

00:37:05.000 And the disastrous consequences have followed.

00:37:08.000 So I think that's a big part of it, where the kind of support for the Republican Party in California has been really kind of taken away by some of these structural changes in how we do elections.

00:37:19.000 I want to make sure people understand that there's some people that say California's lost.

00:37:24.000 I completely disagree.

00:37:26.000 It's a long-term project.

00:37:28.000 I could name five other states that are far more lost than California.

00:37:31.000 Massachusetts.

00:37:33.000 I think Colorado is actually harder than California.

00:37:36.000 The most excited, the most rebellious citizens are the freedom lovers of California.

00:37:43.000 That's the spirit of California.

00:37:45.000 It's like not being told what to do the whole time by the government.

00:37:48.000 That's not what California is about.

00:37:50.000 The whole vibe of this kind of far-left, big government, top-down... Is the lockdown to tie it all together?

00:37:55.000 Exactly.

00:37:56.000 It's the opposite of California.

00:37:57.000 It's anti-California.

00:37:59.000 And I think if we capture that positive spirit of energy and optimism and opportunity, I think it's going to be possible.

00:38:07.000 To turn this around.

00:38:08.000 I don't say it's easy.

00:38:09.000 Well, no, but it's possible.

00:38:10.000 And I'm going to go through the numbers here because the movement is dramatic between the 2020 election results and 2022.

00:38:16.000 Again, it's promising trends.

00:38:18.000 And California is just such a beautiful place with wonderful, wonderful people that, like Jack Hibbs, we were talking about, I think listening on radio right now, who's decided, I'm not leaving.

00:38:29.000 Well, this is what I say the whole time.

00:38:30.000 Jack's amazing, and he's built an amazing community there.

00:38:33.000 Oh, it's a great church, isn't it?

00:38:34.000 It's a privilege to be there this week.

00:38:35.000 And we say the same thing the whole time, which is like, why should we leave, right?

00:38:40.000 We didn't do this.

00:38:41.000 The people that need to leave are the people who did this to our state.

00:38:43.000 They need to leave office.

00:38:44.000 They come to my home, Arizona.

00:38:46.000 I'm from Chicago, but I have a heart for Arizona like you have a heart for California.

00:38:50.000 And it's like, okay, you can come live in our 118 degree heat.

00:38:52.000 By the way, that's how I know how bad Gavin Newsom is.

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00:40:04.000 So the thing I feel everyone needs to understand is that there is energy in California for change.

00:40:11.000 People want the change.

00:40:12.000 There's a big majority now who say the state's going in the wrong direction.

00:40:16.000 Gavin Newsom's approval is underwater.

00:40:18.000 The numbers are there.

00:40:19.000 Even if you look at elections, statewide elections in California in the last few years, the average Republican share of the vote, 41.7%.

00:40:28.000 So, I know that's not a majority, but it's a lot closer than people think.

00:40:32.000 And if you look at how badly, especially, you know, when you think about who's been really hurt by these far-left policies, there's a real parallel with what you see happening nationally and the Trump movement.

00:40:44.000 It's the working class who's been hit the hardest, and working class Latinos.

00:40:49.000 And so I feel like if we just Put out there a positive and practical common sense alternative.

00:40:56.000 It's not ideological.

00:40:57.000 It's not complicated.

00:40:58.000 It's really basic stuff that will let you send your kids to a decent school where they're educated, not indoctrinated.

00:41:05.000 Own your own home.

00:41:07.000 Earn enough in a good, decent job that you can raise your family with.

00:41:11.000 And if you run a business, do it without this endless barrage of regulations and permits and fees and ridiculous nonsense.

00:41:19.000 These are basic things, not complicated.

00:41:22.000 And we just need to get out there and say that change is possible.

00:41:25.000 I think you're going to get people flocking to that.

00:41:28.000 So for example, in 2020 in California, Joe Biden won with 63% of the vote.

00:41:32.000 In 2022, Gavin Newsom with 59% of the vote and Republicans did seven points better.

00:41:40.000 Yes.

00:41:40.000 That's a great example.

00:41:42.000 It's moving in the right direction.

00:41:43.000 It's moving in the right direction, and Orange County is getting its place back, right?

00:41:47.000 Well, Katie Porter's out. 1.00

00:41:49.000 Scott Poor, hopefully, in.

00:41:50.000 Orange County, I think, is one of the most beautiful places on the planet, by the way.

00:41:54.000 If California was not Marxist... I'm there a lot these days.

00:41:56.000 If California was not completely Marxist, I would live in Orange County.

00:41:59.000 It's beautiful.

00:42:00.000 I particularly love the drive down the coast.

00:42:04.000 I often do the drive down to San Diego.

00:42:06.000 Right on the 5?

00:42:07.000 Right by the military base?

00:42:10.000 It is one of the most beautiful drives in the country.

00:42:12.000 Yeah, amazing.

00:42:13.000 I've done it many, many times.

00:42:16.000 And that whole drive up the Five through L.A., you go to Oxnard, eventually up to Santa Barbara.

00:42:21.000 It's one of the most beautiful corridors on the planet.

00:42:22.000 But the thing is, Charlie, I'm gonna get, you know, rhapsodic now, because I'm on the road the whole time, and all the time I'm finding parts of California just amazing.

00:42:29.000 That you didn't know about.

00:42:30.000 So, like San Luis Obispo, I went, and what a beautiful, unbelievable.

00:42:30.000 Didn't know about.

00:42:34.000 Morro Bay is beautiful, and Cambria.

00:42:34.000 A beautiful, exactly.

00:42:37.000 The natural beauty of California.

00:42:39.000 There's an amazing drive, actually, that I did, I think it was in January, From San Diego, inland, the freeways, the 8, you go to Imperial County, over these incredible mountains.

00:42:50.000 It's actually where a lot of Bill Malugin's reporting on the border is from.

00:42:54.000 Tragically.

00:42:56.000 But it's so incredible.

00:42:58.000 And then everywhere you go in California, you meet amazing people who've created incredible businesses.

00:43:03.000 Everyone thinks about Hollywood and tech, but the engineering and the So Steve, your passion is to really energize the California grassroots and traditional Democrats are open to this message.

00:43:19.000 Because they see the results.

00:43:21.000 I mean, all the time you'll see people and actually, by the way, it's not just applying to California.

00:43:26.000 I've been seeing it even before the kind of insanity of the last few weeks about Biden and Trump.

00:43:32.000 You know, people where I live in the Bay Area, very, very democratic part of the state.

00:43:38.000 And people all the time are coming up to me, you know, people who I know have not only been, you know, Democrat voters but supporters and donors and hosted events for Democrat candidates saying, yeah, I don't know, I think we need a change.

00:43:51.000 And they don't just mean that in California.

00:43:54.000 Some of them saying, yeah, I think, I don't know, I'm not going to say it publicly, I think I might vote for Trump this time.

00:43:59.000 That was happening even before the last few weeks.

00:44:02.000 It's really interesting.

00:44:03.000 It's that thing where the left have just pushed people so far and it's so obviously failed that people are just saying, yeah, we can't go on like this.

00:44:11.000 And Gavin Newsom's termed out.

00:44:13.000 Yes, he's termed out.

00:44:13.000 Is that right?

00:44:14.000 And so there's going to be this question of what does the future of California look like?

00:44:17.000 Exactly.

00:44:18.000 And it's going to be a big one, I think, with a lot of national implications, as I say, because so much of this far left extremism has come from California.

00:44:27.000 If we can turn it back there, Here's a phrase I use so often when I'm on the road, and I think it really captures why this matters to everyone.

00:44:36.000 I read it last year when I was reading about California's history.

00:44:41.000 California means to America what America means to the world.

00:44:45.000 I think it's such a beautiful phrase.

00:44:47.000 It captures why that spirit of California, in a way it should be the best of America, the best of the values that we want to see for the whole country.

00:44:55.000 At the moment it's the opposite.

00:44:56.000 But if we can just get back to that spirit, I think it'll just be transformative, not just for California, but for the whole country.

00:45:03.000 I totally agree.

00:45:04.000 And so people can check it out at Golden Together.

00:45:07.000 You have events and things that are coming up, is that right?

00:45:08.000 Yeah, on the road the whole time.

00:45:09.000 It's fantastic.

00:45:11.000 I'm sure many of the people listening and watching I've met over the past months and there'll be a lot more to come.

00:45:17.000 So let's also talk about your book, More Human.

00:45:21.000 You have a cell phone now?

00:45:22.000 Yes.

00:45:23.000 Okay.

00:45:24.000 So, I didn't have a phone.

00:45:25.000 When we moved here from England, I had to give back my government-issued phone.

00:45:28.000 I was working for the government for David Cameron, who's prime minister in 10 Downing

00:45:31.000 Street.

00:45:32.000 Gave back my phone.

00:45:33.000 The old flip phone that I had, the Nokia flip phone, didn't work here.

00:45:36.000 In the end, I just got so fed up with it, I didn't have a phone.

00:45:39.000 So for 12 years, I existed without a phone of any kind.

00:45:43.000 And it got more and more intriguing to people.

00:45:45.000 I didn't have a smartphone.

00:45:47.000 And in my book, More Human, I argued, this is 2015, that kids should not have smartphones.

00:45:53.000 I totally agree.

00:45:54.000 I remember when I said that first, people thought it was crazy and how you're going to do it.

00:45:58.000 Now you see school districts all over the country banning smartphones in schools, which I totally support.

00:46:04.000 But finally, I had to relent and enter the modern world because, as I said, I'm on the road a lot these days.

00:46:10.000 So to keep in touch with my team and my family, I thought, OK, I'm going to get a phone, but I'm not going to get a smartphone.

00:46:16.000 So I'm going to show you what I did get, which is this beautiful Flip phone.

00:46:22.000 Oh, I love it.

00:46:22.000 Look at that, old school.

00:46:24.000 Can you text on it or no?

00:46:25.000 I can text.

00:46:26.000 I can call.

00:46:27.000 Do you feel like you're violating the more human mandate?

00:46:30.000 I think it's okay.

00:46:31.000 I mean, sometimes I think I'm starting to sort of pull it out in a way.

00:46:34.000 Yes, right.

00:46:35.000 But then, no, it's not as bad.

00:46:36.000 But you were famously unreachable at times.

00:46:39.000 Exactly.

00:46:39.000 But now, now it's here.

00:46:41.000 Now I'm, you know, it's my small concession to the modern world.

00:46:44.000 But I think that the message of More Human, that the world's become, everything's gone too big and bureaucratic and centralized and distant from the human scale.

00:46:53.000 I think that's really, really important and something we should all take seriously.

00:46:57.000 So you also have positive populism.

00:46:59.000 Yes.

00:47:00.000 So if you were to say one advice to Donald Trump for an agenda item, a tone, what would it be from now till November?

00:47:08.000 I think be positive and inspirational about America.

00:47:11.000 He loves America so much.

00:47:12.000 He does.

00:47:13.000 It's in him.

00:47:14.000 And I think that vision of the greatness that America could achieve, I think he got... Everyone knows he can do the job.

00:47:22.000 Everyone knows he can deliver results.

00:47:24.000 We saw that before.

00:47:25.000 And that's the big contrast with the Biden years.

00:47:29.000 I think now is the time for something really inspirational to kind of unite the country and get everyone excited about the future.

00:47:37.000 Steve Hilton, you are a great man.

00:47:38.000 GoldenTogether.com, more human.

00:47:41.000 And do you think Trump's going to win?

00:47:43.000 I do.

00:47:44.000 I did before.

00:47:44.000 I think so even more now.

00:47:46.000 And I think you will regardless of who is the candidate that is up on the ballot.

00:47:50.000 There is this populist movement that is not going away.

00:47:53.000 Exactly.

00:47:54.000 It's not.

00:47:55.000 And I think it's really exciting.

00:47:56.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:47:57.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:47:59.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 12, 2024

Can California Ever Be Saved? ft. Steve Hilton

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