The Charlie Kirk Show - Can We Take Down Lady Graham?

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00:01:17.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 It's June 4th, 2026.

00:01:22.000 We're here in Phoenix, Arizona at the YRefi Studios.

00:01:26.000 Honored to be with you all.

00:01:28.000 Blake, how are we doing this morning?

00:01:29.000 We're doing lovely.

00:01:30.000 Well, we want to get into a growing story that you are probably not outraged enough about.

00:01:36.000 And no, I'm not talking about Henry Novak.

00:01:38.000 That is a fair enough thing to be outraged.

00:01:40.000 We talked about that yesterday.

00:01:41.000 We might get to it today as well.

00:01:43.000 No, I'm not talking about the fact that New Jersey Democrats seem to have elected a terrorist sympathizer and a defense witness in the World Trade Center bombing, wasn't it?

00:01:54.000 Or is it 9 11?

00:01:55.000 World Trade Center.

00:01:56.000 We'll get to it.

00:01:57.000 We're actually going to have a New York councilwoman in an hour or two talk about that.

00:02:00.000 I'm not even talking about the fact that New York wants to ban the term mother and father, although I'm outraged about that as well.

00:02:08.000 I'm talking about the fact that we have a failed state.

00:02:11.000 As part of the 50 United States, namely California, that can't count votes.

00:02:18.000 And it's absurd.

00:02:20.000 And to steal a line from Nate Silver, yes, I'm going to steal a line from Nate Silver, which I'm loathe to do usually, but he's right in this instance.

00:02:27.000 He said that this should be far more stigmatized.

00:02:31.000 Now, what's happening in California is obscene and absurd.

00:02:34.000 And Blake's got some data to go through with just how obscene and absurd it is when you compare it to well functioning states, competent states like Florida.

00:02:44.000 Now, let me show you a graphic here, really quick.

00:02:47.000 And this is, I think, very indicative, and then we'll get into the data, Blake.

00:02:50.000 On June 3rd at 10 a.m., in the race for governor, look at the stats here at June 3rd.

00:02:59.000 You see that 57.5% of votes are in.

00:03:04.000 All right.

00:03:05.000 Now, fast forward roughly, I guess, 13 hours.

00:03:10.000 13 hours.

00:03:12.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:03:13.000 There's only 55.8% of the expected votes in.

00:03:19.000 13 hours later, there is less of the expected votes in than there was 13 hours before. 0.98

00:03:26.000 So, what you are seeing is an entire state run by a bunch of incompetent cheaters. 0.83

00:03:33.000 And we should be absolutely enraged by it. 0.92

00:03:36.000 And they are all over the media trying to explain away what is really happening here. 0.75

00:03:41.000 Now, take it to the LA race.

00:03:45.000 Now, let's go to the betting odds. 0.58

00:03:47.000 The LA race here between Spencer Pratt and Nithya Rahman, who are in second and third place.

00:03:53.000 Right now, Spencer Pratt is roughly seven points up.

00:03:56.000 But if you go to the betting odds, guess who the betting folks are putting their money behind getting second place and getting to the runoff?

00:04:03.000 That's right. 0.99

00:04:04.000 Nithya Rahman is now favored, though she's seven points down with 60% of the vote in.

00:04:10.000 We're still waiting for the votes to come in.

00:04:12.000 She is now favored to be the number two candidate in the runoff against Karen Bass, who the race has been called on behalf of.

00:04:20.000 Even though Spencer Pratt is up, even though we're 60% of the votes in, even though.

00:04:25.000 He ran a far superior campaign.

00:04:28.000 He's now not favored to make it to the runoff because votes are just going to trickle in.

00:04:34.000 No, so we should say it's calci, so someone could be trying to pump and dump the market.

00:04:34.000 Yeah.

00:04:40.000 There's all sorts of shenanigans on betting markets.

00:04:43.000 So don't overreact to these things.

00:04:47.000 But we will say it's 100% true that California has regressed to what we would 100% in any other case call a third world model of democracy or.

00:04:57.000 A fraudulent level of democracy.

00:04:59.000 If some Arab dictator, if some Latin American ruler was saying, these are my election results, and they get to 57% and it goes back to 55%, if they get to 60% and then it just stalls out and it takes days, and they say, it's going to take us a month to finish counting, we would say, you are creating a cover to commit fraud. 0.92

00:05:20.000 You are creating a cover to meddle with the results. 0.80

00:05:23.000 But because it's California, we're supposed to just tolerate it.

00:05:27.000 And it's so egregious.

00:05:28.000 I went and I checked numbers because it's so bad.

00:05:31.000 So, California is our largest state.

00:05:33.000 Here's an example in the 2024 election Florida had about 11 million votes cast in the 2024 presidential election, and they got all of them counted in about really, they had almost all of them done in an hour and a half, two hours, and they were basically 100% done by midnight.

00:05:50.000 It took them less than five hours to get 100% of the vote in in Florida, 11 million votes.

00:05:56.000 Texas took a little bit longer, they got to 90% pretty quickly.

00:05:59.000 Last few percent trickle in.

00:06:00.000 They're done by the following morning.

00:06:02.000 Both of these states have about 11 million votes.

00:06:05.000 California has 15 million votes.

00:06:07.000 They can't get 10 million of them counted in 24 hours in 2024.

00:06:13.000 Just a third of their vote floating out there, taking days, weeks for them to complete.

00:06:18.000 And they're running the same scam here.

00:06:20.000 You go to the LA mayor's race.

00:06:22.000 Oh, we've got a third of the vote.

00:06:24.000 It's going to take us a while to get it counted.

00:06:28.000 And in that vagueness, That is where you get the opportunity to do shenanigans.

00:06:33.000 It's a simple fact.

00:06:34.000 You need to get votes counted quickly because it just makes it harder for people to break the rules, people to screw things up.

00:06:41.000 It doesn't even need to be deliberate fraud.

00:06:43.000 People mess up.

00:06:45.000 Elections are complicated things, and going faster actually makes it less likely you'll mess up.

00:06:50.000 Yeah, and Alex, I think is how you pronounce his name.

00:06:54.000 I've met him before, Michelson, is a CNN reporter now who went to the counting center to check on what was taking so long.

00:07:02.000 Here's his report: 36.

00:07:04.000 Why does it take so long to count ballots in California compared to other states?

00:07:09.000 Well, essentially, California leaders have made the decision that it's more important to give more people more time to make last minute votes than it is to count quickly, where other states have said it's more important to count quickly and not necessarily give people as many options to vote at the last minute.

00:07:28.000 The whole process takes about three weeks.

00:07:32.000 So, here's an interesting graph if you want to throw it up.

00:07:34.000 It compares multiple states and how many hours it took.

00:07:39.000 To count their votes.

00:07:41.000 So hours in 2020, 73 hours in Arizona, hours in 24, 147.

00:07:48.000 So they increased by 200%.

00:07:50.000 Georgia took 18 hours in 2020 and only five hours in 2024.

00:07:55.000 So they decreased.

00:07:57.000 It only took about a quarter as long.

00:07:59.000 Michigan, it took about half as long.

00:08:01.000 They went from 17 hours to nine.

00:08:03.000 Nevada, 159 hours to 51.

00:08:06.000 So they're going in the right direction.

00:08:07.000 North Carolina went in the wrong direction, but only from three to six hours.

00:08:11.000 Pennsylvania, 49 hours to eight.

00:08:13.000 So you see this trend that different states are doing things differently.

00:08:18.000 But in general, these states are roughly, approximately fine.

00:08:22.000 Okay, besides Nevada, that's obscene.

00:08:25.000 And Arizona.

00:08:26.000 In Arizona.

00:08:26.000 Yeah, they've got a lot of things to fix in this state.

00:08:29.000 And by the way, thank goodness we have Heap as county recorder in Maricopa.

00:08:33.000 So we're making good changes in Maricopa.

00:08:35.000 But then you take California, and California literally takes two weeks to count its ballots.

00:08:40.000 Not more than two weeks.

00:08:42.000 It could easily take three or a month.

00:08:43.000 I do have good news, though, and we should highlight this because it's a white pill.

00:08:46.000 The Supreme Court actually is ruling as we speak on whether you're allowed to count ballots that arrive after Election Day.

00:08:53.000 That's a big reason California is so full of nonsense.

00:08:56.000 They run that scam where, oh, if it's postmarked on election day, it can arrive two or three or five weeks later, and we still have to count it.

00:09:04.000 The Supreme Court is hearing a case about that right now, and they could very well say, election day is election day.

00:09:10.000 If you want to count it on that day, get it in on time.

00:09:13.000 I think somebody needs to step in.

00:09:14.000 The adults need to be back in the room in California.

00:09:17.000 We shouldn't tolerate it. 0.88

00:09:17.000 It's run by a bunch of infantile incompetents, and it's time to put it to bed, okay? 0.88

00:09:23.000 You can't run a country like this. 0.97

00:09:24.000 You can't run the biggest economy in the country, which that is California, love it or hate it.

00:09:30.000 There really is just.

00:09:31.000 More that we could go into.

00:09:32.000 I have to play this clip because she looks so sad. 0.81

00:09:36.000 This is far left socialist Nithya Raman, who now, according to the betting markets, this is not for sure going to happen, but according to the betting markets, is now favored to be the second candidate in the November runoff in California for mayor of Los Angeles.

00:09:51.000 But this was her night of. 0.50

00:09:53.000 She was basically conceding defeat.

00:09:56.000 Sot 28.

00:09:58.000 Ganangaviri, I hope you know that everything every person in this room is fighting for in this campaign is.

00:10:06.000 Has been about building a city that's worthy of you and every child in the city.

00:10:15.000 It's incredible.

00:10:17.000 She's now, yeah, according to the odds, 25%. 1.00

00:10:20.000 She's like a 20% shot to become the mayor of Los Angeles, according to the betting markets. 0.75

00:10:25.000 And even she, it seems, cannot believe what things are possible with California's slow motion election system.

00:10:34.000 Also, I'm going to throw in an aside.

00:10:35.000 I don't think.

00:10:37.000 People who sob like that should be political.

00:10:42.000 There's no crying.

00:10:43.000 There's no crying in politics.

00:10:44.000 No, just don't do it.

00:10:46.000 We got some great emails, by the way. 0.96

00:10:48.000 We had someone who said, California is a dump.

00:10:51.000 Our only hope is if an earthquake hits and everyone leaves.

00:10:55.000 That's from Salvatore.

00:10:57.000 We also have Steve says, just weird how California and Democrat states take just as much time as they need to come up with enough fraudulent votes so the Democrats won elections.

00:11:07.000 Can I pause on that?

00:11:08.000 So he says, it's It's very strange how they just take as long as they need to find the votes.

00:11:13.000 Here's my big thing.

00:11:14.000 So, Democrats get mad at us when we do this and we say, oh, it's shenanigans going on.

00:11:19.000 And they're still trying to ask Marco Rubio in a Senate hearing yesterday who won the 2020 election, right?

00:11:24.000 Or maybe that was the House.

00:11:26.000 Either way, you wonder why we have these questions? 0.99

00:11:30.000 Stop running your elections like a third world hellhole.

00:11:34.000 Nothing would make people, frankly, trust Democrat leadership more than if they can just get their elections nailed down, get the votes counted.

00:11:42.000 In 24 hours, not even 24, give them count in four hours, like Florida, and there will be fewer doubts for it.

00:11:47.000 This is one of those changes where, even if it makes my party lose some elections, it would be so good for America if we just count our votes quickly.

00:11:57.000 It is creating problems for the country.

00:11:59.000 It is enabling every complaint about a stolen election.

00:12:02.000 There might be real stolen elections that happen because of this, but even 100% legitimate elections will feel fraudulent to people if you count this slowly.

00:12:12.000 If you don't fix this, it's going to make people give up on the system.

00:12:16.000 Well, they're doing a whole press tour, Blake, trying to reinforce that this is, you know, it's just normal.

00:12:22.000 This is why there were so many candidates.

00:12:25.000 SOD 37.

00:12:25.000 It's completely normal here in California for it to take at least a few days, if not longer than that, to know the final results here, especially in a race like this where there are some 61 names on the ballot for governor.

00:12:38.000 And just given the sheer volume of mail in ballots across the state.

00:12:43.000 The sheer volume, there was, you know, there was an absurd.

00:12:45.000 That is another part of their races that.

00:12:48.000 You can get on the ballot really easily.

00:12:50.000 You can define yourself however you want.

00:12:52.000 You can get these candidate statements. 0.87

00:12:54.000 So I saw a candidate statement for one of the not candidates for governor, and it was straight up like bizarre, laser, I'll be frank, like schizo conspiracy theory stuff just thrown on the ballot. 0.96

00:13:06.000 And there's something a little beautiful about that. 0.83

00:13:08.000 It's kind of cool that you can get on the ballot regardless of what the system tries to do.

00:13:13.000 But that is, I do, I don't have a problem with that.

00:13:16.000 But that's not an excuse for why it should take this long.

00:13:18.000 In other breaking news, we have now heard.

00:13:18.000 Exactly.

00:13:22.000 Found out that John Bolton is going to be taking a plea deal, Blake, on mishandling classified information.

00:13:30.000 This walrus man, this neocon boomer who just wants to bomb foreign lands, who turned viciously against President Trump when President Trump didn't do all the bombing that Bolton believed was necessary, he's taken a plea deal, and it's hilarious.

00:13:46.000 We have to touch it just briefly.

00:13:47.000 SOT 38.

00:13:48.000 This isn't so much weaponization as really a good deal for Mr. Bolton.

00:13:54.000 He's 77 years old.

00:13:56.000 I think he's unlikely to get prison time.

00:13:59.000 And he was charged with both retaining sensitive information and transmitting it.

00:14:05.000 But Alex, he's only pleading guilty to the retention charge.

00:14:10.000 So this was the set that was on MS Now, right?

00:14:13.000 So this is the same network that, when these charges were brought to begin with, were screaming at the top of their lungs fascist tyranny. 0.93

00:14:22.000 Trump's a corrupt leader who's using the DOJ for his own personal vendetta. 1.00

00:14:28.000 Absolute garbage. 1.00

00:14:29.000 He gets a plea deal, and they're like, oh, well, this is different because it was career prosecutors, and, you know, he got a plea deal. 0.98

00:14:35.000 This is obscene, by the way, because this is the same network that had, was it Eisen, you know, that lunatic who co authored a column basically saying the raid of Bolton's house needs to make every American take notice.

00:14:51.000 You should be terrified of the state of our democracy.

00:14:55.000 Do you think they offered him, maybe said, like Bolton said, I'll plead guilty if you. 0.98

00:15:01.000 Blow up one more Iranian boat before the next ceasefire.

00:15:03.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:15:05.000 Let's not assume that there was some sort of deal at all taking place here. 0.83

00:15:09.000 Bolton's a total crank. 0.99

00:15:10.000 The guy's a total weirdo. 0.99

00:15:12.000 And again, that mustache, I don't know what he's doing. 0.98

00:15:15.000 I don't know if he's ever looked in a mirror and been like, you know what?

00:15:17.000 Maybe I should try something different.

00:15:20.000 Either way, this is the type of hysterical nonsense that has been propagandizing the left in this country for now years, right?

00:15:29.000 So this guy, just to refresh your memory, was literally having this little.

00:15:33.000 Patty cake email chain with people sharing classified information, sensitive national security information, and just sharing it via email for the whole world, the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese, just to scoop off of his computer.

00:15:50.000 The guy did a bad thing.

00:15:52.000 And now MS now is finally admitting oh, well, this isn't so much weaponization, this is a really good deal for John Bolton, which, candidly, pretty depressing.

00:16:00.000 The guy should be in prison where he belongs.

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00:16:54.000 So, without further ado, I want to welcome in Mark Lynch.

00:16:59.000 We've had him on the show before, and he is working to unseat Lady Graham in South Carolina.

00:17:05.000 Welcome back to the show, Mr. Lynch.

00:17:06.000 Thank you.

00:17:07.000 Thank you for having me on again, guys.

00:17:09.000 Well, listen, this is a very, very important race here.

00:17:13.000 And it occurred to me yesterday, sir, as I was thinking about that.

00:17:17.000 You know, I understand that President Trump has endorsed your competitor here, but I haven't seen him do any rallies in South Carolina.

00:17:26.000 I haven't seen him really truth social anything.

00:17:29.000 I haven't seen, I have not even seen Senator Lindsey Graham do any town halls.

00:17:35.000 I haven't seen him put himself out there in the public.

00:17:37.000 Only thing I could find was these small little curated events with like 10 or 15 people.

00:17:42.000 The man is terrified of putting himself in front of the real voters of South Carolina because he knows he's going to get heckled.

00:17:49.000 He knows they're going to boo him.

00:17:50.000 He knows they're going to ask him questions that he can't answer.

00:17:54.000 So I just find the whole thing fascinating, sir.

00:17:57.000 What do you make of it?

00:17:58.000 Yeah, we've, you know, there's been several forums and opportunities for debate.

00:18:03.000 We've shown up.

00:18:04.000 Lindsay hadn't come to one of them.

00:18:07.000 And he does have a few events, and he has eight or 10 people there.

00:18:10.000 They're ticketed.

00:18:12.000 They have to apply before they are allowed to come in so he knows who they are so he can block people that might heckle him or jeer at him or boo him or whatever.

00:18:12.000 They're vetted.

00:18:23.000 And that's exactly right.

00:18:24.000 He's hiding.

00:18:25.000 He's afraid because it would be very risky to show up.

00:18:28.000 So he knows that.

00:18:30.000 And he doesn't have answers and he's got a record that South Carolina is embarrassed from.

00:18:35.000 And all of America is watching South Carolina and hoping we do the right thing this time and remove Lindsey Graham from his office.

00:18:44.000 It's sounding like Joe Biden events in 2020.

00:18:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:48.000 Do they have the circles?

00:18:50.000 Do they have the big circles on the ground where they have to stand in the cordon spots there?

00:18:54.000 All right, check this out.

00:18:56.000 So, again, I just find this as you guys put this together.

00:19:00.000 I believe this was from your campaign, but I watched this.

00:19:03.000 I had forgotten that he had said all these things.

00:19:05.000 And I want the people of South Carolina to understand this.

00:19:08.000 If you are a Trump supporter, I'm telling you, the man on the screen right now is far more in line with President Trump, MAGA, America First, than the man you're about to hear.

00:19:18.000 SOT 39.

00:19:19.000 And you know how you make America great again? 1.00

00:19:22.000 Tell Donald Trump to go to hell. 0.99

00:19:24.000 If you can't admire Joe Biden as a person, then it's probably you got a problem. 1.00

00:19:30.000 You need to do some self evaluation.

00:19:32.000 Because what's not to like?

00:19:34.000 Joe Biden, he won.

00:19:35.000 He's the legitimate president of the United States. 0.99

00:19:37.000 He's a race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot. 0.98

00:19:41.000 It wasn't peaceful. 0.99

00:19:42.000 I was there. 1.00

00:19:43.000 If it had been up to me, I would have shot some of these people in the head. 0.99

00:19:47.000 I'd never seen that Joe Biden clip where he says he's a decent person. 0.99

00:19:51.000 I got some notes.

00:19:51.000 Man.

00:19:53.000 What's been the response?

00:19:54.000 Did you guys put this together or did I just find this on the internet or something, sir?

00:19:59.000 My consultant may have sent that to you, but yeah, we've been as we've been traveling the state for 15 months, we're reminding people and showing those videos everywhere so they remember what Lindsey Graham actually said, right?

00:20:13.000 And some people have never seen some of that stuff, so it's good for them to see it.

00:20:13.000 Yeah.

00:20:17.000 They need to know who he really is.

00:20:20.000 I probably saw it.

00:20:21.000 I mean, I vaguely remember some of the stuff about Joe Biden, but I forgot.

00:20:26.000 And you need to remind people that this is who you're talking about.

00:20:29.000 So this guy that's Cozied himself up to President Trump and acted like he's his best friend.

00:20:33.000 And that the, you know, the guy deep down at a fundamental level hates him and I think is playing him, is working him, is managing him.

00:20:44.000 And I believe that the president, I believe President Trump's smart enough to see through it.

00:20:48.000 And I understand that he's got a political calculus that he's making in his head.

00:20:51.000 But, sir, maybe remind our audience why you are the America first candidate in this race and what you would do different than Lady Graham if elected.

00:21:00.000 Yes.

00:21:01.000 Well, you know, I'm a lifelong South Carolinian born in Greenville.

00:21:05.000 I took over my father's business back in 1985.

00:21:08.000 So I'm a successful businessman.

00:21:10.000 We've grown our business 35 times in the last 40 years, debt free.

00:21:16.000 I'm married.

00:21:17.000 Lindsay knows nothing about that.

00:21:19.000 I've been married to the same wife for 38 years.

00:21:22.000 We have two children, four grandchildren.

00:21:24.000 Everybody's saved, everybody loves Jesus.

00:21:28.000 I'm an ordained deacon at Burnsview Baptist Church, the church where our family is there as a member.

00:21:35.000 You know, I've got fruit I can show in my life.

00:21:37.000 You have to have godly character, certain character qualifications to qualify to be an ordained deacon.

00:21:44.000 And, you know, our owner of our business, the owner of every dollar in my wallet, my dog, my wife, my kids, God's the owner of everything.

00:21:53.000 And we're trying to be a good steward over it.

00:21:55.000 And we've been praying the Jabez prayer for years I have that God would let me bless me and my entire family today and forever indeed.

00:22:04.000 And that just means if it would be your will, I'm available to steward over bigger kingdom stuff.

00:22:10.000 So here we are running for a United States Senate race. 0.99

00:22:14.000 And I bring knowledge at the deepest level about the Islamic infiltration into America. 0.99

00:22:20.000 I'm endorsed by General Mike Flynn, who I've worked with, with him and John Guandolo on this topic to bring safety to Americans within our walls, inside of our country. 0.99

00:22:32.000 And people are concerned about that.

00:22:34.000 And so I was asked to run for an office with my business common sense.

00:22:39.000 Our poll showed back a year ago that people are tired of a career politician or an attorney getting into office.

00:22:46.000 They like a successful businessman that's shown perseverance and the ability to fight the giants in our industry of appliances and TVs and bedding and furniture.

00:22:57.000 And we win every day.

00:22:59.000 And my son says, Dad, what's our culture?

00:23:02.000 He's the next generation, third generation.

00:23:05.000 I said, We don't have a culture statement.

00:23:06.000 That's a good question.

00:23:08.000 But if we wrote one out, our culture statement would be we love Jesus Christ.

00:23:13.000 And we're the Navy SEALs of this industry because we're fighters.

00:23:17.000 And I'll take that to fight for America with godly principles, honoring the Constitution and my oath to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic, into Congress and support America with an equal voice of representation that this state deserves.

00:23:33.000 Exactly, Mark.

00:23:34.000 I want to highlight a few things.

00:23:35.000 First of all, we had one of your rivals in the primary, Paul Danz, on the show.

00:23:39.000 I want to just make sure everyone's aware he has endorsed you since he dropped out.

00:23:43.000 A lot of people liked him.

00:23:44.000 And I also want to highlight some momentum here because we have three polls from the last month.

00:23:50.000 And.

00:23:50.000 The first poll, Insider Advantage, it had Lindsey Graham 56%, Mark Lynch 13%.

00:23:56.000 The next most recent one, Trafalgar Group, a week later, Lindsey Graham 52%, Mark Lynch 28%.

00:24:03.000 And we have a poll from the Citadel about a week and a half after that, around Memorial Day.

00:24:08.000 Lindsey Graham 46%, Mark Lynch 36%.

00:24:11.000 So if you can't see how quickly that is converging, that is a rapid convergence, rapid gain of momentum, and Lindsey Graham below 50%.

00:24:20.000 So, yeah, just to set the stakes here, guys.

00:24:23.000 Mark's got a race June 9th, if I'm right.

00:24:26.000 So next week. 1.00

00:24:28.000 And we've got to keep Lindsey Graham below 50%. 1.00

00:24:32.000 Then it goes to the runoff.

00:24:33.000 And if it's a two horse race, which it basically is now, but you've got 18% that are still saying unsure.

00:24:39.000 So if you are unsure, then you need to get sure and put your weight and your vote behind Mark Lynch here because we've had enough of the neocons.

00:24:48.000 We've had enough of carpet bombing foreign countries and being obsessed with foreign abstractions and sending American boys off to go die and bleed in the Middle East and blood and sand.

00:24:58.000 We're sick of it.

00:24:59.000 And Mark Lynch is the guy that's going to put our interests and your boys first, putting their interests in America, affordability, fighting for what's right, fighting for godly and Christian principles in your country.

00:25:10.000 I mean, I'm completely enthusiastic about your campaign, sir, if you can't tell.

00:25:14.000 And it's time, in the year where we've got rid of Bill Cassidy, we got rid of John Cornyn, Tom Tillis is retiring.

00:25:20.000 This is the time to turn over the U.S. Senate, the GOP side, to get fighters that will fight for what's right.

00:25:27.000 Sir, what is your message to those 18% that say they're unsure in that Citadel poll?

00:25:32.000 Yeah.

00:25:33.000 People, you know, in the beginning of this race, people said, How are you going to defeat Lindsey Graham?

00:25:39.000 He's a senior senator.

00:25:40.000 He's networked in.

00:25:41.000 He's part of the good old boys in D.C. He's got hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:25:46.000 And I remind them, he's just a man.

00:25:48.000 And what do you want to do to the voters out there?

00:25:51.000 I'm willing to represent you.

00:25:53.000 Do you want him again?

00:25:55.000 You know, somebody was talking about that the other night.

00:25:58.000 The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

00:26:03.000 Do you want to vote for him again?

00:26:06.000 How insane is that?

00:26:07.000 All of America's watching South Carolina, the great state of South Carolina, that's been first through history at doing so many things right.

00:26:16.000 And we're the number one state people want to move to because it's such an attractive place to live and raise your family.

00:26:22.000 It's close to the beach, close to the mountains.

00:26:24.000 We have four beautiful seasons.

00:26:26.000 It has some lower tax advantages.

00:26:29.000 What a great place to raise a family.

00:26:31.000 But we've got so much more we can do.

00:26:34.000 And this is the year on America's 250th birthday.

00:26:38.000 Let's remember our founding fathers and elect a true patriot that will serve you, the people, that will work for you.

00:26:47.000 Not himself.

00:26:48.000 Lindsay's America last and Lindsay first.

00:26:51.000 And everybody's tired of it. 0.72

00:26:53.000 And I call him a traitor because, you know, in the fourth quarter of 25 and the first quarter of 26, he allocated in his budget, as the budget chairman, $5.67 billion each time to help fund illegal aliens in this country. 0.90

00:27:11.000 Is that America first? 0.51

00:27:13.000 With money we don't have, we're printing money out of thin air.

00:27:16.000 And if we're going to do that, why don't we give that to American citizens that help fight in wars and support our veterans with that money and help the VA administration serve our great patriots who are willing to give their lives for the cause to protect this country?

00:27:31.000 You know, and then we had a Breitbart News article come out a month ago as he's been with IRI and one of the heads of the USAID Foundation that Trump finally shut down last year.

00:27:45.000 USAID's funded $122 million of our taxpayer money.

00:27:52.000 Do you like this, y'all, the listeners out there?

00:27:54.000 We're funding the enemies of our country.

00:27:56.000 That money went to NGOs supporting Hamas and Al Qaeda.

00:28:01.000 That's treason.

00:28:03.000 I want to get into this idea that, you know, they're trying, I've seen some of the attack lines against you.

00:28:11.000 You know, they're trying to go back to the 80s, trying to take you down or whatever.

00:28:15.000 I mean, it's just hilarious.

00:28:16.000 They're going back 40 years, sir.

00:28:19.000 To try and smear you, which I find to be really repulsive.

00:28:24.000 You have basically lived one of the most upright and godly lives since the 1980s that anybody could possibly look to.

00:28:33.000 You've taken your business and you mentioned you 35 X'd it.

00:28:36.000 I wish I could have bought stock in your company.

00:28:41.000 But tell people that origin story of yours for those who don't understand it, because it's really a beautiful story and it's a godly story.

00:28:49.000 That people probably just don't realize because they know they hear Mark Lynch is funding parts of his own campaign with his own money.

00:28:55.000 You've been successful.

00:28:56.000 And I know you're a humble man.

00:28:57.000 I know it's not natural for you really to talk about yourself in sort of glowing terms.

00:29:03.000 But do it anyways for us.

00:29:05.000 Tell your story, sir.

00:29:06.000 Well, it's God's story of redemption and restoration.

00:29:11.000 You know, I was saved at 11 and I knew what that meant.

00:29:14.000 I gave my life to Jesus.

00:29:16.000 But later in my junior and senior year of high school, and when I went off to college, Jesus wasn't my Lord.

00:29:25.000 I was doing it my way.

00:29:26.000 And I, you know, God loves his children and he disciplines those who wander off.

00:29:32.000 And I wandered off for a few years and got in trouble.

00:29:35.000 I had three DUIs and I got busted with a cocaine felony charge.

00:29:41.000 And we've talked about my addiction struggles on our Lynch for Senate website since day one when we created the website on the About Mark tab.

00:29:49.000 Yeah, you haven't been hiding your story.

00:29:51.000 No.

00:29:52.000 No.

00:29:54.000 And so I went to a treatment center.

00:29:57.000 And got clean and sober on August the 14th of 1985, and came back home and plugged into recovery programs and started working through the 12 steps of recovery and allowing Jesus to be the Lord of my life again.

00:30:12.000 I gave him the keys again and said, It's time for you to drive.

00:30:15.000 I've made a mess of things.

00:30:16.000 I don't want to do that anymore. 0.99

00:30:17.000 That was stupid. 0.99

00:30:18.000 I need you to guide my life, and I'm going to ride with you. 1.00

00:30:22.000 And I received a pardon for my felony.

00:30:25.000 And so I love guns.

00:30:26.000 I have a lot of guns.

00:30:27.000 They're attacking me on that house.

00:30:29.000 Mark Lynch, have a gun. 0.99

00:30:30.000 He's a felon. 0.59

00:30:31.000 I was.

00:30:31.000 Pardon.

00:30:32.000 I can go buy a gun and check every box.

00:30:34.000 No.

00:30:35.000 And it was completely pardoned.

00:30:38.000 And I met my wife of 38 years, Sarah, the love of my life, my partner, in a Narcotics Anonymous meeting.

00:30:45.000 We've been married 38 years.

00:30:47.000 And God has used us, and it's been such the joy of our lives because we've worked with thousands of men and women and bringing them out of the lies of addiction into the truth and freedom in Christ.

00:31:01.000 And we've been a Allowed to watch that.

00:31:04.000 And people get their trust back in their families, get their marriages restored, get their health back, get a job again, get a checkbook, start being a productive member of society, and watch their custody of their kids return to them because God's in the business of fixing things back way better than they ever were.

00:31:25.000 And 15% of our staff has come through recovery programs.

00:31:30.000 And one of the gentlemen that I mentored and sponsored back in 1993, He's retired now after 30 years.

00:31:38.000 And when he gives his testimony, he says, You know, back in the day, my mother wouldn't let me come into her home because I'd steal everything she had.

00:31:46.000 And he holds up his store keys and said, But today I'm a manager and one of the top salesmen of a multi million dollar operation because I have trust back.

00:31:55.000 Y'all, God's good.

00:31:57.000 And so I appreciate Lindsay bringing that out because it's one of the most rewarding ministries.

00:32:03.000 And every family has some member somewhere a child, a spouse, a A son or a daughter or nephew or niece or uncle or grandfather that's having trouble with addiction.

00:32:15.000 And you know, when we opened up two big Celebrate Recovery Christian ministries, the pastor talked about it one night.

00:32:22.000 He says, Listen, everybody's in recovery or denial over something in their lives because none of us are Jesus.

00:32:32.000 We're working on something always.

00:32:34.000 And so, what a great ministry that's been.

00:32:38.000 And so, that's true.

00:32:39.000 What he put out.

00:32:40.000 It's also true, another direct mail piece Lindsay sent out is that Mark Lynch is for defunding the DOJ.

00:32:48.000 I am.

00:32:49.000 I called out Pam Bondi back in March of last year.

00:32:52.000 If she has the Epstein files list and we're not going to start arresting people, what are we doing?

00:32:57.000 There's a problem there. 0.97

00:32:58.000 She's either irresponsible or part of it or hiding something. 1.00

00:33:03.000 So I want our Supreme Court judges and our Department of Justice and law enforcement.

00:33:10.000 Officers around the country and ICE, I support every bit of that.

00:33:15.000 We're going to bring back the rule of law in this country and arrest evil and stop it in its tracks when I get in.

00:33:21.000 I'll never support letting people come in and out and come in and out of the country or grant amnesty to illegal aliens like Lindsay's trying to do or sponsor the Afghan Act and come against Trump and everything he's doing.

00:33:37.000 You know, we've got to have somebody that's for America that'll do the right thing.

00:33:42.000 I mean, I think that's music to a lot of our audience's ears right now.

00:33:45.000 So if you are in South Carolina and you like what you just heard, get out and vote for Mark Lynch June 9th.

00:33:51.000 We got to keep Lindsey Graham under 50% to force this into a runoff.

00:33:56.000 And I'm just going to predict it, sir.

00:33:59.000 You know, in that runoff, man to man, one on one, you getting through and keeping him, you know, under 50%, I think you win that running away.

00:34:08.000 I think Lindsey has looked strong because people think he's unbeatable.

00:34:14.000 And if you show he's beatable, I think that will evaporate.

00:34:17.000 Amen.

00:34:17.000 And God bless you, Carolinians.

00:34:20.000 We have the greatest opportunity ever to do the right thing, and it's doable.

00:34:25.000 I'm willing to go.

00:34:26.000 Send me.

00:34:27.000 Amen.

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00:35:48.000 We have a new guest on the show, but listen, we needed authentic New York for this because there's just so much insanity coming out of New York and surrounding areas.

00:35:59.000 In this case, it's technically New Jersey, but it's like within eyeshot of ground zero in the world trade.

00:36:04.000 So we have the Honorable Vicki Palladino. 0.99

00:36:08.000 She's a councilwoman.

00:36:10.000 Uh, representing district 19 of Queens in New York City, uh, Councilwoman, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:36:17.000 Oh, thank you for having me.

00:36:18.000 You wanted authentic New York?

00:36:20.000 I think you got it right here.

00:36:22.000 Yeah, I think we all figured it out as soon as you started talking.

00:36:25.000 You better than this accent and everything.

00:36:27.000 That's so cold accent that I have.

00:36:29.000 Well, I know you, you too.

00:36:31.000 You, you, uh, represent your people, I think, authentically, uh, very, very well.

00:36:36.000 So, we got to talk about this story.

00:36:38.000 This is just, I, I.

00:36:40.000 It's one of those stories when you read it, you're like, how is this a thing?

00:36:46.000 But we have New Jersey, and again, within eyeshot of ground zero, has just, I guess, the GOP, there was a crowded Democrat primary, has just elected Adam Hamawi.

00:37:01.000 I think I'm saying his name right.

00:37:03.000 I think he wants to.

00:37:04.000 Yeah, he has terrorized, linked to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

00:37:11.000 He was a defense witness. 0.98

00:37:13.000 For the blind sheikh who, again, a terrorist, an Islamic terrorist. 0.99

00:37:20.000 This man was a defense witness for him, and he has now won the Democrat primary within eyeshot of ground zero. 0.98

00:37:28.000 Please make this make sense for me, Councilwoman.

00:37:31.000 Well, if I could, then I'd be really, really smart.

00:37:34.000 We cannot make sense of it.

00:37:37.000 I don't even know how this passed in muster, as we say.

00:37:41.000 Why and how is somebody with the background that this guy has got even allowed to run?

00:37:47.000 For any elected office, let alone congressional.

00:37:53.000 Now, he's located down in District 12.

00:37:55.000 That's South Jersey.

00:37:57.000 That's the Princeton part of the province.

00:37:59.000 All right, fine.

00:38:00.000 Okay, that's the Princeton part.

00:38:01.000 I stand corrected.

00:38:02.000 It's still too close.

00:38:03.000 Anywhere in America, it would be inappropriate.

00:38:05.000 No, no, no, that's what my point is.

00:38:07.000 That's my point.

00:38:08.000 Because this is like cancer, it's spreading.

00:38:10.000 Now, that's predominantly blue, very wealthy, prominent area in New Jersey.

00:38:17.000 And for him to win, Now that's going to go blue.

00:38:20.000 So, more than likely, he will be the next Congressman from that district, from that area.

00:38:28.000 What I think the Republican Party needs to do is, I really think the Republican Party needs to really understand and play this up.

00:38:37.000 This has got to become part of the narrative, I believe, nationwide to get the message out there, to make people understand what we have.

00:38:49.000 We've got a terrorist.

00:38:51.000 We're going to see a terrorist.

00:38:54.000 In Congress.

00:38:55.000 Do you understand?

00:38:56.000 And if Trump loses the midterm elections, they will seat him.

00:39:02.000 If Trump should succeed, be successful in the midterms, which we all hope that he is, they don't have to seat this guy.

00:39:11.000 So I really think that should be the message.

00:39:14.000 That's a great message.

00:39:17.000 Make it part of the campaign message throughout these blue states what it means for us to lose something as important as this.

00:39:27.000 Any congressional seat.

00:39:29.000 Yeah, Councilwoman.

00:39:30.000 I mean, I actually saw this tweet because you retweeted it.

00:39:33.000 This is from Ari Fleischer, who's a friend of the show.

00:39:36.000 He comes on.

00:39:37.000 He said he traveled to Bosnia where he volunteered for an Al Qaeda offshoot.

00:39:43.000 Great.

00:39:44.000 And he says Congress would be within its rights not to seat him.

00:39:47.000 Our enemies should have no expectation they can infiltrate us within.

00:39:52.000 And I mean, I stood up clapping looking at this.

00:39:54.000 And to your point, it underscores the importance of the midterms.

00:39:58.000 All right, you might be upset about this or that.

00:40:00.000 You might be still struggling with affordability.

00:40:02.000 We understand that.

00:40:03.000 Climbing out of four years of Joe Biden with what, 28% inflation over four years or more in certain industries, it's going to take some time.

00:40:12.000 We're working on it.

00:40:13.000 But to go to this, where we are seating actual terrorists, the man, by the way, I have to show this clip.

00:40:21.000 I have to show this clip.

00:40:23.000 When he won, when Adam Hamawi won the primary, he got up and shouted Al Hu Akbar three times, SOP 41.

00:40:32.000 We win! 1.00

00:40:41.000 That's not Pakistan. 0.99

00:40:42.000 That's not Afghanistan.

00:40:45.000 That's not Iran.

00:40:46.000 It might be Britain. 0.61

00:40:47.000 It might be Britain. 0.80

00:40:48.000 That's America. 0.91

00:40:49.000 I should flag that because that's what we've seen in Britain. 1.00

00:40:51.000 It's much more advanced there, the Islamization of some of their big cities. 0.94

00:40:55.000 And you're getting these candidates who just, it starts off with, I'm just a Muslim running for office, but eventually it just becomes, I'm running on a platform of Islam. 0.96

00:41:04.000 My top issues are Gaza. 0.56

00:41:06.000 My top issues are entrenching the right to Islamize different parts of public life. 0.99

00:41:12.000 We can have sex segregation in various things. 0.99

00:41:15.000 And you are in the backyard of this. 0.93

00:41:17.000 I mean, you've got Mayor Momdani, who is a Muslim.

00:41:22.000 City Hall and the mayor's mansion have all been transformed into these Muslim celebrations. 0.82

00:41:28.000 Just to underscore it, in 2001, thousands of Americans lost their lives when our buildings were knocked down by terrorists, when they flew planes into them. 0.82

00:41:42.000 And, you know, 25 years later, this is what is happening in America.

00:41:47.000 That's how quickly this happened.

00:41:49.000 And I know that that must be very personal for you, Councilwoman.

00:41:53.000 Extremely personal.

00:41:54.000 Extremely personal.

00:41:56.000 You know, we all know where the time froze for us all here in New York.

00:42:02.000 For me, at my house, you're able to see the skyline.

00:42:08.000 My son, who flies small planes, he flew just the week before.

00:42:12.000 And you know, the airspace, there's a certain amount of space that you're allowed to get.

00:42:17.000 As close as you could.

00:42:18.000 So that particular Tuesday evening, the week prior, he was flying.

00:42:23.000 It was a beautiful, crystal clear night.

00:42:25.000 And he had his brother in the plane, crystal clear, right there, World Trade Center.

00:42:31.000 Following week, one week later, this happens.

00:42:35.000 My son happened to be spending the night at my house the night prior on the 10th.

00:42:40.000 And when he saw this take place in real time, because we had the TVs on, as we usually do in the morning for the news and such, and he said, We're being attacked.

00:42:51.000 I'll never forget it.

00:42:52.000 We're being attacked.

00:42:53.000 And I was like, come on, what are you talking about?

00:42:56.000 Ma, we're being attacked.

00:42:57.000 And sure enough, bam, the first plane goes in.

00:43:01.000 And he explained that you're not allowed that close.

00:43:03.000 This is no accident.

00:43:05.000 But the disbelief, and, you know, remember, I lived through 1993 as well.

00:43:10.000 And this is where this guy comes from.

00:43:13.000 You know, he comes from before the 1993 bombing and then after the 1993 bombing.

00:43:20.000 That's when they first went after the World Trade Center.

00:43:23.000 Now, that was.

00:43:25.000 Underground in the parking facility where they set off two vans and it blew out.

00:43:31.000 I don't know exactly what now, how many stories up it went, but I could still see the images.

00:43:37.000 Again, real time, TV's on.

00:43:40.000 It's four o'clock in the afternoon, and you see people fleeing out of the buildings covered in smoke.

00:43:45.000 This is too much.

00:43:46.000 Enough is enough.

00:43:50.000 We've got Zoran sitting in, I refuse to call him my mayor.

00:43:53.000 He's not my mayor.

00:43:55.000 And people better, you know, enough is enough.

00:43:57.000 He's not just a socialist.

00:43:59.000 This guy is a straight up communist.

00:44:01.000 But let's get down to the real nitty gritty.

00:44:03.000 And the real nitty gritty is who was his chief counsel?

00:44:08.000 He appointed Al Qaeda's defense attorney to be his chief counsel in the city of New York.

00:44:13.000 He had Mahat, what's his name?

00:44:16.000 Cahill.

00:44:17.000 Is it Cahill Mahat?

00:44:19.000 What's his name?

00:44:20.000 At the dinner table in City Hall not too long ago.

00:44:24.000 The unindicted co conspirator.

00:44:26.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:44:27.000 Correct.

00:44:28.000 We've had that.

00:44:29.000 We've had prayer mats laid at the base of the first firehouse that answered the first call for 9 11.

00:44:38.000 They were praying in the street what they're doing, and make no mistake, anybody out there, they are marking their territory.

00:44:47.000 All right, so I have to get to this next topic, Councilwoman.

00:44:51.000 I just don't know what's going on in the state of New York.

00:44:55.000 I don't know what's going on in California either, but this is getting insane.

00:44:58.000 It's been insane, and it keeps getting more insane.

00:45:01.000 I'll play the clip and get your reaction.

00:45:03.000 SOT 30.

00:45:04.000 The Hokel signs this bill sitting on her desk. 1.00

00:45:06.000 A new law will make it illegal. 0.98

00:45:08.000 To call them mother and father.

00:45:09.000 New York Democrats argue the words mother and father are outdated and need to be replaced with more inclusive terms under state law.

00:45:17.000 All that's needed now is Governor Kathy Hochel's signature.

00:45:20.000 So if Hochel approves, in New York's family court and in domestic and education law, a mother would be labeled as a gestating parent, a father as a non gestating parent, and paternity proceedings to determine the child's father would be called parentage proceedings.

00:45:37.000 What the hell's going on, Councilman?

00:45:40.000 What are we doing here?

00:45:41.000 Where am I?

00:45:42.000 Where do I live?

00:45:44.000 This is like we landed in Oz somewhere.

00:45:48.000 This is absolutely, and it's going to happen.

00:45:51.000 Let me tell you, this will happen because of the way things are going here.

00:45:55.000 Now, June is upon us. 1.00

00:45:58.000 It's Gay Pride Month.

00:46:00.000 You know, we've got my chief went to the library just yesterday and she took out some books from our local library.

00:46:08.000 This is for your kindergarten and seven year olds, eight year olds.

00:46:12.000 And it's really, really very scary about gender and non binary, whatever the hell that means, because I don't even know. 0.97

00:46:23.000 And I don't want to know. 1.00

00:46:24.000 I don't care.

00:46:26.000 But the fact is that they are putting this into the kids.

00:46:29.000 This is now going to become absolutely 100%. 0.83

00:46:34.000 If they want to put tampons in boys' bathrooms or our non gender bathrooms, that's what they do. 0.93

00:46:40.000 Birthing parents could be a boy, a man, or a woman. 1.00

00:46:44.000 This is definitely going to happen. 0.91

00:46:46.000 Hochul's definitely, she's taking her knee to Zoran and to the whole Democratic Party, everybody, is in shambles.

00:46:56.000 It has fallen apart.

00:46:58.000 Now, the Republicans want to seize the day and actually let that work in their favor.

00:47:05.000 We have got so much material.

00:47:07.000 This is low hanging fruit.

00:47:10.000 And we have got a governor's race coming up here in New York in November, whereas Bruce Blakeman is running for the governor's seat on the Republican ticket.

00:47:20.000 But I'm telling everybody do not make this an election about a D or an R.

00:47:27.000 We need our Democrat common sense folk that are fed up.

00:47:33.000 We need our independents, who are the majority of our base here in New York, to get out and vote.

00:47:40.000 You need to change it.

00:47:43.000 If we don't cut off the snake's head and just cut off the tail, Then the head's just going to stay, it's going to just grow a new tail.

00:47:50.000 We need this.

00:47:52.000 Another thing I want to bring out here is that, you know, to our point prior, I want to make this very important.

00:48:01.000 And that is that we, with this, everybody's afraid of being called an Islamophobe, the same way they're afraid of being called a homophobe.

00:48:13.000 All these phobes are floating around.

00:48:15.000 You know what?

00:48:16.000 Stand up for what you believe in.

00:48:19.000 We need strong people out there.

00:48:21.000 We need our Constitution, it is not a suicide pact.

00:48:25.000 It's up to us, the people, to do what we need to do.

00:48:30.000 And we need them to go out and vote.

00:48:32.000 We watch what happens with low voter turnout.

00:48:35.000 But I really want the Republican Party to realize between this guy winning, possibly winning, and more than likely winning the congressional seat here in Jersey locally, we've got this growing across the country.

00:48:48.000 This is an epidemic.

00:48:49.000 This is what's taking over.

00:48:51.000 And the Republicans really, really, really need to understand what's going on here.

00:48:57.000 Seize the day.

00:48:58.000 Seize the day because we can't be shy about this anymore.

00:49:02.000 We've got Bruce Blakeman.

00:49:03.000 I'm going to give him a plug.

00:49:05.000 Bruce Blakeman running for governor here.

00:49:08.000 Like I said, this is not about the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

00:49:12.000 This is about saving the state of New York from absolute insanity because we're going in that direction.

00:49:19.000 Everybody Zoran has put out, everybody Zoran has put out is winning their primaries.

00:49:26.000 And that's what they're afraid of, these Democrats.

00:49:28.000 They're afraid of being primaried.

00:49:31.000 Stand up for what you believe in.

00:49:32.000 And I'm going to tell you something the people will trust you.

00:49:35.000 And if the people trust you, you will win your race, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, so long as you deliver.

00:49:42.000 The message that needs to be delivered.

00:49:45.000 We're in bad shape, folks.

00:49:46.000 We're in really bad shape.

00:49:47.000 Yeah, I mean, one minute left here, Councilwoman.

00:49:50.000 How's Mamdani doing?

00:49:51.000 I mean, how's the city being run?

00:49:53.000 One minute.

00:49:54.000 One minute.

00:49:55.000 A hell of a handbasket.

00:49:57.000 We're going to seize private property. 1.00

00:50:00.000 We are going to, you know, annihilate the billionaires, get them out. 0.99

00:50:05.000 We're going to overtax the middle class. 0.94

00:50:08.000 The biggest thing last week was taking over private property, weaponizing.

00:50:13.000 The building department against small ownership, large ownership.

00:50:19.000 They want it all.

00:50:21.000 They want it all.

00:50:22.000 And you know what?

00:50:24.000 This city's just about ready to hand it over.

00:50:26.000 Keep this in mind 51 city council seats.

00:50:30.000 I'm one of the 51.

00:50:32.000 Only five Republicans.

00:50:33.000 I'm one of the five.

00:50:35.000 24 radical left wing DSA sit in the body of 51.

00:50:41.000 So just think about what we're up against here in the city of New York.

00:50:45.000 And that's why the people need to come out and vote.

00:50:48.000 We need to change the governor of the state of New York.

00:50:51.000 I love talking to New York Republicans so much.

00:50:54.000 It's a state with a lot of difficulties, but I love how much spirit they have.

00:50:59.000 I love the determination.

00:51:00.000 Keep fighting, Councilwoman.

00:51:01.000 Keep fighting because I think we could win.

00:51:03.000 We can turn things around.

00:51:03.000 I think we can get wins.

00:51:04.000 I'm more optimistic with New York than California.

00:51:07.000 No, I am too.

00:51:08.000 I am too.

00:51:09.000 God bless you, Councilwoman.

00:51:11.000 Thank you so much.

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00:53:29.000 All right, without further ado, we're going to bring in Tyler O'Neill.

00:53:35.000 Tyler O'Neill has been on the show a few times about this topic because the SBLC is just the gift that keeps on giving.

00:53:41.000 He is the senior editor at the Daily Signal and he's the author of an important book called Making Hate Pay The Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:53:51.000 Tyler, welcome back to the show.

00:53:53.000 Yeah, thanks again so much for having me, Andrew.

00:53:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:56.000 So you had a tweet that I think is like, you know, at like 10 million or something.

00:54:00.000 Like yesterday, you did a big old long thread.

00:54:04.000 Because new indictments came out.

00:54:04.000 And why?

00:54:07.000 Against the SBLC.

00:54:08.000 They're much more detailed ones.

00:54:10.000 And I just have a quick question for Blake here, if you will, Tyler.

00:54:13.000 Blake, have you ever paid for cross burnings?

00:54:16.000 Oh.

00:54:17.000 You know, I don't think I have.

00:54:20.000 Has anyone we've known ever paid for a cross burning?

00:54:22.000 I haven't known anybody.

00:54:22.000 Turning Points never financed that.

00:54:24.000 We definitely have.

00:54:24.000 And I don't think anyone we know has.

00:54:26.000 I don't even think, like my grandpa, you know, who was known to say some untoward things.

00:54:30.000 Oh, no.

00:54:31.000 I don't think he paid for cross burnings.

00:54:32.000 Which puts us all in stark contrast to the SBLC.

00:54:37.000 Tyler, break down these new indictments and just how.

00:54:41.000 Like, egregious, they really are.

00:54:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:44.000 So, I mean, it runs the gamut.

00:54:47.000 You have KKK hoods, KKK robes.

00:54:51.000 They're buying merch.

00:54:52.000 Burning.

00:54:53.000 They're paying for white supremacy merch. 0.99

00:54:55.000 It's so much better.

00:54:56.000 And this money.

00:54:58.000 It's because the first indictment, just to make sure people said this, the first indictment was saying, oh, they were giving money to these people in these orgs.

00:55:06.000 But now it's so much clearer they were paying for the actual actions of these groups.

00:55:11.000 They were helping them recruit, helping them do events.

00:55:13.000 They were.

00:55:14.000 The Klan would not exist without this SPLC money, basically.

00:55:18.000 There was like startup money.

00:55:20.000 There was like angel fund investing.

00:55:22.000 And there were at least three people who wanted to get out of the Klan.

00:55:27.000 You know, these people are saying, Oh, I think the Klan is violent.

00:55:31.000 I'm afraid for my safety.

00:55:33.000 I'm no longer believing in white supremacy.

00:55:35.000 So I've heard that the SPLC will help get me out of the Klan.

00:55:40.000 So they go to the SPLC, and lo and behold, the SPLC says, Sit down here.

00:55:44.000 I have a proposal for you.

00:55:46.000 And they shovel money at them and say, You need to stay in the Klan, and then you're going to be an informant for us.

00:55:53.000 And one of these people who was convinced to stay in the Klan later rose to a leadership position in the Klan after the SPLC turned this person.

00:56:04.000 So, like, you know, we cannot make up how far the SPLC's motions here have really kind of propped up these hate groups.

00:56:16.000 And right there, you know, you have on the screen, which is Fantastic.

00:56:20.000 The list of all the places where the SPLC's money went.

00:56:25.000 So, the SPLC pays these people, and then these people took that money allegedly and used it to, you know, fund travel to extremist gatherings, host extremist gatherings, you know, grow new chapters of extremist groups and grow existing ones.

00:56:44.000 And it's like all of these things where, huh, maybe at what point are you so?

00:56:50.000 At some point, the SPLC was funding people to tip them off to violent threats.

00:56:56.000 I think that.

00:56:58.000 Originally, that's what the program aimed to do.

00:57:01.000 But now you have, and again, this period is from 2010 to 2023.

00:57:08.000 And during that period, you have a lot of situations where it sure seems to me, based on the evidence in the indictment, that the SPLC was really propping up the hate it claimed to oppose.

00:57:21.000 Yeah, and I want to just read the exact line from the indictment as we were referencing with the cross burnings.

00:57:26.000 F31 and F32, these are unnamed individuals in the indictment.

00:57:30.000 Were reimbursed by the SPLC with donor money for all expenses incurred for cross burning events, including the wood and fuel used.

00:57:41.000 Just, I think you need to blast that to the entire world. 0.85

00:57:45.000 That is what the SPLC's donor money paid for the wood and fuel for cross burning events by the Ku Klux Klan.

00:57:52.000 I mean, yes, which is just bananas.

00:57:55.000 And like I said, white supremacy merch.

00:57:58.000 You have it here that the SPLC paid over 1.2%.

00:58:01.000 $2 million to F9, another individual unnamed.

00:58:07.000 Get this, who was in a romantic relationship with an SPLC employee.

00:58:13.000 While receiving the SPLC's donor money, F9 also raised funds for the National Alliance, which is a white supremacist organization. 0.96

00:58:23.000 They're literally in bed with white supremacists. 0.56

00:58:27.000 You can't make this stuff up. 0.99

00:58:31.000 My goodness.

00:58:32.000 Like, this is.

00:58:33.000 This is crazy.

00:58:34.000 So, okay, by the way, just so everybody's aware, and maybe Tyler, you might have been alerted to this as well.

00:58:39.000 I believe on June 9th, which is the same day as Mark Lynch goes up against Lindsey Graham, I want to remind you all in South Carolina to vote.

00:58:48.000 So, on June 9th, Congressman Jim Jordan is going to be having the CEO of the SBLC testifying before a House committee.

00:58:59.000 So, that's a really big deal.

00:59:01.000 And, you know, we can joke about some of this stuff because it's absolutely insane.

00:59:07.000 But I want to lay out the grift here just to remind people is that the SPLC became famous, right?

00:59:18.000 Because in the 70s and 80s, they went after white supremacy groups, right?

00:59:23.000 The cross burnings, the hoods, all that kind of stuff.

00:59:25.000 They basically bankrupted these organizations and they made a ton of money off of it.

00:59:31.000 And people need to understand that they realized that there was so much money by scaring the crap out of, you know, Progressive grandmas across the country, or just like you know, people that believe the propaganda, that they realized this was an existential threat to their business model. 0.66

00:59:46.000 The fact that they had been so successful in the 70s and 80s was a threat to their business model, so they had to hype this up, they had to re engage and reinvigorate these old symbols that like strike fear into the heart of the average progressive because there's nothing worse than being a racist or a white supremacist.

01:00:05.000 That they knew that it paid.

01:00:07.000 This is why, when we found out that they had informants and actually leaders.

01:00:12.000 Organizers that were a part of Charlottesville, that's a key insight.

01:00:16.000 Why?

01:00:17.000 Because their revenues tripled year over year after Charlottesville.

01:00:22.000 I want everybody to understand that.

01:00:23.000 So, they pay to gin this stuff up, and then guess what?

01:00:26.000 They monetize it.

01:00:27.000 They monetize the grift and the hate that they helped create because that's the business model.

01:00:32.000 And they tripled their revenues in one year, Tyler.

01:00:35.000 I'm not making that up.

01:00:36.000 It'd be like if Turning Point got caught funding far left groups.

01:00:39.000 Yes, exactly.

01:00:41.000 Exactly.

01:00:42.000 And Proud Boys were funding Antifa.

01:00:44.000 I mean, that's.

01:00:45.000 Yeah, no, exactly.

01:00:46.000 No, totally.

01:00:47.000 And here's the thing.

01:00:48.000 So, I want everybody to remember this.

01:00:51.000 Now, I'm not alleging that the SBLC killed Charlie.

01:00:55.000 I'm not.

01:00:56.000 I'm not saying that putting Charlie and Turning Point on the hate map in the spring of 2025 killed Charlie.

01:01:04.000 What I'm alleging is that it contributed to a culture that absolutely killed Charlie.

01:01:10.000 Right?

01:01:11.000 The organization's decade long campaign that turned hate into this all encompassing catch all smear wielded against conservatives killed Charlie.

01:01:21.000 Because three months and 19 days after the SPLC put Charlie and Turning Point USA on its hate map, An assassin killed him and was quoted as saying, I had enough of his hatred.

01:01:34.000 Some hate can't be negotiated out.

01:01:37.000 Yeah.

01:01:38.000 That's Tyler Robinson's fault.

01:01:39.000 I think that's what makes this whole situation even more egregious is that the SPLC here has been exposed for funding and essentially supporting the real, the sort of real hate that they often propped up as the main goal of them opposing, that they then used to smear.

01:02:01.000 Mainstream conservative and Christian groups by putting them on that hate map that they say reveals the infrastructure upholding white supremacy in the United States.

01:02:11.000 So, on the one hand, you know, they're pushing this grift where they're emphasizing white nationalist groups and some groups that, you know, may pose a threat but barely exist and are often so small that they almost need oxygen from the SPLC to exist.

01:02:29.000 And then they're using that as the excuse to demonize.

01:02:33.000 Good people who disagree with the SPLC, people who stand for parental rights like Moms for Liberty, people who stand against transgender insanity, people who want to, you know, make sure that they have a better life for their children.

01:02:48.000 These people are put on the map with chapters of the Klan.

01:02:52.000 And all of that is somehow legitimized by the SPLC focusing on these neo Nazis and white nationalists who we now know they had members who were being funded by the SPLC.

01:03:05.000 And actions being funded by the SPLC.

01:03:08.000 I got to go through a couple more of these instances because we brought up Charlottesville, and you have this Unite the Right, F 37.

01:03:17.000 So, again, this is how they identify these unnamed people.

01:03:21.000 A member of the leadership chat for the Charlottesville rally in 2017 made racist posts under an SPLC employee's supervision.

01:03:32.000 Just let me repeat this.

01:03:35.000 One of the organizers for Charlottesville made racist posts.

01:03:40.000 Under direct SBLC supervision and arranged for transport for others to attend the rally.

01:03:48.000 The SBLC paid this individual, known as F 37, $300,000, and it was worth every single stinking penny to them.

01:04:01.000 Reminder again, they tripled their revenue from donors after Charlottesville.

01:04:06.000 That was the best $300,000, arguably, any organization.

01:04:11.000 Has ever spent ever because man, it turned into millions, Tyler.

01:04:17.000 Your reaction, yeah.

01:04:19.000 I mean, I've described it many times.

01:04:21.000 It seems like this was an investment on behalf of the SPLC and it paid dividends.

01:04:26.000 Also, when it comes to Charlottesville, in the lead up to Charlottesville, the SPLC put out a hate map of Confederate monuments across the country, saying that these monuments are inspiring turmoil and bloodshed.

01:04:40.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:04:40.000 And, you know, these monuments, I mean, these included high schools, middle schools, elementary schools.

01:04:47.000 And so, at a time when you had Antifa agitators going and knocking over these statues.

01:04:54.000 The SPLC is really putting the white flag in front of the bull and revving it up.

01:05:01.000 And so, this was something that Carol Swain, who testified alongside me in Congress last month, said really, really well in my book.

01:05:10.000 She was saying she's followed these white nationalist movements.

01:05:14.000 And she said that when the SPLC put out that map, they were inspiring.

01:05:20.000 It seemed like they were trying to encourage something like Charlottesville to happen.

01:05:25.000 So, on the one hand, yeah.

01:05:27.000 So, I mean, I want the audience to really internalize this fact.

01:05:27.000 No, exactly.

01:05:31.000 So, they create the target, these statues, which is essentially what Charlottesville was all about.

01:05:37.000 It was a big clash, a collision of people talking about American heritage, Southern heritage, these statues.

01:05:43.000 So, they tell everybody, get really upset about these statues.

01:05:48.000 And then they're paying the people that want to defend the statues.

01:05:52.000 So, they create the moment, the collision in the first place.

01:05:56.000 They were playing both sides.

01:05:59.000 On purpose, so that they could have a combustible situation.

01:06:02.000 It's such a sinister thing.

01:06:03.000 And don't forget the final payoff of this, which is, yeah, create the hate groups that they then profile to make money, but then also so that they can then smear people like Charlie, people like Family Research Council, by putting them on the same map and say, these people have proximal relations to these hate groups when we never associate with these hate groups.

01:06:25.000 We've never paid for a cross burning.

01:06:27.000 It's the SPLC that does it.

01:06:29.000 It's the sort of.

01:06:31.000 Villainization process. 1.00

01:06:32.000 It's entirely worthy of something you'd see in the Soviet Union. 0.75

01:06:35.000 It's something you would see, frankly, in an authoritarian state.

01:06:38.000 This is what an authoritarian government would do.

01:06:40.000 And it's incredibly sinister that they got away with this.

01:06:42.000 On that note, you know, you think of this, oh, this is just a third party.

01:06:46.000 This is just a nonprofit.

01:06:47.000 No, the SPLC was completely ingrained and embedded within our FBI and the DOJ.

01:06:53.000 They were using information fed to them from the SPLC to create charging documents, indictments, investigations.

01:07:01.000 So this is, I mean, this was completely.

01:07:05.000 Seamlessly integrated within our own governmental institutions.

01:07:10.000 Perhaps you could explain that a little bit more detail for our audience, Tyler.

01:07:14.000 Yeah, this is some of the most shocking things from the Biden administration, where the SPLC was brought in to advise prosecutors in the DOJ.

01:07:23.000 So, the very guy last year, the SPLC put Focus on the Family on the hate map.

01:07:30.000 And one of their employees, R.G. Cravens, he came out and compared mainstream conservative Christian doctrine.

01:07:39.000 To, you know, he called it false and dangerous.

01:07:43.000 And yet he took that rhetoric.

01:07:47.000 And earlier in the Biden administration, he advised, there was a meeting where he briefed DOJ prosecutors specifically on the anti LGBTQ movement, which means that the SPLC, which has been demonizing conservative Christians for over a decade, was there advising DOJ prosecutors on how they should be combating.

01:08:13.000 Conservative Christians.

01:08:14.000 And by the way, this anti LGBTQ label, this is the accusation that led to the terrorist attack against the Family Research Council.

01:08:23.000 And this is direct.

01:08:24.000 This isn't like the Charlie Kirk situation where we say, yes, they probably contributed to the overall hate against Turning Point and Charlie Kirk.

01:08:32.000 And that's shocking enough.

01:08:34.000 But here, the terrorists used the SPLC hate map to target the Family Research Council.

01:08:40.000 And yet, SPLC has kept FRC on the hate map ever since and has been.

01:08:46.000 Advising DOJ prosecutors against conservative Christians like FRC.

01:08:52.000 Oh, and really well said, Tyler.

01:08:54.000 Thank you for all of this.

01:08:55.000 We got to go.

01:08:56.000 But I just want to say one last thing.

01:08:57.000 This is why I reject this Christian nationalist moniker because it comes from stooges like the SPLC.

01:09:04.000 They're trying to smear you because they want to demonize with pejoratives, dehumanization, just normal conservatives that want to vote.

01:09:12.000 Okay?

01:09:13.000 We're Christians and we want to vote.

01:09:15.000 Okay?

01:09:16.000 That's what the country was founded upon.

01:09:18.000 Anyways, Tyler O'Neill, Daily Signal, making hate pay.

01:09:20.000 Thank you, my friend.

01:09:21.000 Good to see you.

01:09:22.000 Thanks for having me.

01:09:27.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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