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00:00:17.000 Finally, some good stuff to share.

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00:03:07.000 I am back in the chair.

00:03:09.000 And no, I'm not yet in the studio.

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00:03:17.000 And, you know, a lot of you guys were so sweet last week.

00:03:19.000 You were emailing us.

00:03:20.000 Charlie, hope you're enjoying your vacation.

00:03:22.000 Charlie, hope you're enjoying your time off.

00:03:24.000 Charlie, I hope you went to somewhere nice.

00:03:26.000 I did enjoy last week, but it was not a vacation.

00:03:31.000 I was on assignment for the most important thing that one can do, except giving your life to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:03:39.000 We, Erica, and I and our family were celebrating the birth of our son.

00:03:44.000 Children are a gift from the Lord, and we were celebrating.

00:03:48.000 And so we have been very sleep deprived.

00:03:52.000 So it's not exactly been, let's just say, going down to Cabo San Lucas.

00:03:57.000 We have our other little one, our 20-month-old, who is running around and causing all sorts of havoc.

00:04:02.000 But I think we have a picture to show up on screen here.

00:04:05.000 And I got to just be honest, it is the most important, most fulfilling, most challenging thing I have ever done, and we have ever done.

00:04:14.000 And we are just, we are filled with so much joy and thrilled.

00:04:20.000 And he's super healthy, praise God.

00:04:23.000 And Erica is just doing amazing.

00:04:25.000 And Erica did so, so well.

00:04:27.000 I got to be honest.

00:04:28.000 There was a lot going into that whole situation.

00:04:32.000 And we're going to keep that private.

00:04:33.000 And, you know, we're a very private family in the sense where we don't like necessarily always sharing about family stuff.

00:04:39.000 And, you know, we wanted to give a whole week just to kind of let things settle.

00:04:43.000 And, you know, as you spend a lot of time when you have a child just kind of sitting and thinking and not sleeping and listening to podcasts.

00:04:54.000 And, you know, you're looking at this unbelievably innocent life, which, by the way, he was a life in the womb too.

00:05:02.000 And that's what's just so amazing is that it goes, it's not all of a sudden that the human life just kind of doesn't become magically a human life as soon as the baby exits the womb.

00:05:11.000 It's like life in the womb, life outside of the womb.

00:05:14.000 Same characteristics, same heartbeat, all of it.

00:05:18.000 So I'd love to have a pro-abortion fanatic explain that.

00:05:21.000 However, you look at this totally innocent life that has just entered the world and you say, my goodness, like what are we, what are we giving them?

00:05:32.000 We're destroying this beautiful country.

00:05:35.000 And not to mention the $35 trillion in debt, the wide open border.

00:05:39.000 And it should convict you to fight harder.

00:05:43.000 It should convict all of us when you look at what we are handing down.

00:05:47.000 We are stealing their inheritance while they're still not even able to talk and able to know anything about what's going on in the world around them.

00:05:57.000 We are robbing them blind.

00:05:59.000 I believe it's one of the most, it is one of the great actions of immorality that we've ever seen.

00:06:04.000 It is generational theft, and it's really bad right now for Generation Z.

00:06:08.000 I mean, I think they call it what?

00:06:09.000 Generation Alpha?

00:06:11.000 Is that right?

00:06:12.000 Generation Alpha or whatever generation he's in.

00:06:16.000 It is outright highway robbery.

00:06:19.000 This is the bandit class.

00:06:21.000 That's what these people are.

00:06:22.000 The ruling class has become the bandit class and they steal for a living.

00:06:27.000 They steal their rights.

00:06:28.000 They steal the sovereignty of the country.

00:06:30.000 They steal the fiscal and financial solvency of this nation.

00:06:35.000 And it convicts us to fight.

00:06:36.000 It convicts us to fight harder.

00:06:39.000 And so, yes, I was off last week.

00:06:41.000 Andrew did an amazing job.

00:06:42.000 I want to shout out Andrew and the entire team.

00:06:45.000 Daisy, I heard went on the program too.

00:06:47.000 She did very, very well.

00:06:49.000 And I was getting, you know, all these people text me.

00:06:51.000 Some people said, Charlie, hope you're enjoying your vacation.

00:06:54.000 Andrew is doing so great.

00:06:56.000 I said, okay, well, you know, not a vacation, but I'm really glad the team is doing really well.

00:07:02.000 And so praise God, glory be to God.

00:07:05.000 And it's not easy.

00:07:06.000 And I want to just be very clear about that.

00:07:09.000 The having children is challenging, but it is infinitely fulfilling.

00:07:17.000 It is a daily grind and a daily challenge.

00:07:22.000 And you realize you're not the most important thing in the world.

00:07:27.000 Having children is the antidote to narcissism.

00:07:31.000 If you have any sort of narcissistic, self-indulgent, I'm the most important thing in the world, that dies as soon as you have a child. 0.66

00:07:40.000 And you die to yourself. 0.93

00:07:41.000 And honestly, I think that's a really beautiful thing.

00:07:42.000 I think it's missing in our country.

00:07:44.000 I think that, well, first of all, we are now, Eric and I are now officially doing our part to reverse the fertility crisis, doing a small part.

00:07:52.000 I hope everyone else plays your role too, because we are.

00:07:56.000 We are now below replacement levels.

00:07:58.000 It is the lowest fertility rate in American history, and family is the cornerstone of any civilization.

00:08:07.000 But I look around and everything is all about me.

00:08:09.000 It's about I, and it's not about duty, it's not about obligation.

00:08:14.000 Having children, by definition, makes you recognize and realize that i'm not as important as I might have thought I once was.

00:08:24.000 And I mean, Jesus says, you know, you must take up your cross daily.

00:08:27.000 I could tell you this, having children will help you get there.

00:08:30.000 You don't get all the sleep you want to get.

00:08:33.000 You don't get all the fun times with your friends.

00:08:36.000 I mean, don't get me wrong, you get real joy.

00:08:38.000 You have more fun raising kids than like going out to the bar and doing whatever, you know, the late 20-something and early 30-somethings do.

00:08:47.000 But the fulfilling things are the most challenging things and you go on an adventure, an adventure that is rich in fulfillment, an adventure that nourishes your soul.

00:08:59.000 A very, a close friend of mine, they have a mother-in-law that's passing away, unfortunately.

00:09:06.000 All she thought about in her last couple of weeks and days, the only thing, was her family.

00:09:12.000 And I've seen this play out time and time again, where people are at the end of life, and it's not about, wow, you know, I'm so glad that I visited Vienna that second time.

00:09:23.000 Like, okay, that's fine.

00:09:24.000 It's great.

00:09:25.000 No, it's did you, were you fruitful and multiplying?

00:09:30.000 I totally understand some of you in the audience have difficulty having kids.

00:09:33.000 There's a real fertility crisis.

00:09:34.000 I think we're getting poisoned to this country, separate issue.

00:09:36.000 I understand some of you have not been able to find a partner.

00:09:39.000 Not the point.

00:09:40.000 But those of you that are able to have children and don't have those issues and you choose not to, I think you're making a big mistake.

00:09:49.000 And I'm not just saying a mistake for the country, the civilization.

00:09:51.000 I think that you're going to be at the end of life.

00:09:55.000 And what, you're going to have like a bunch of trinkets or a bunch of like really cool Instagram posts.

00:10:01.000 And you build a repository of shared memories and experiences with only your family, your wife, and your kids.

00:10:08.000 You only share that much of your life with those closest to you.

00:10:11.000 It's so incredibly worthwhile.

00:10:13.000 And you build a legacy.

00:10:15.000 And you start worrying about stuff when you're a parent that you don't worry about otherwise.

00:10:20.000 And it keeps you on edge.

00:10:22.000 And you're not always able to like relax and have that work-life balance. 0.99

00:10:26.000 It's all a bunch of trash. 0.96

00:10:28.000 But you do something that outlives you. 0.99

00:10:31.000 And honestly, it's good for the country and good for the civilization.

00:10:34.000 You want to know, it's so simple.

00:10:36.000 You want to know how we save the country?

00:10:37.000 We raise more good people.

00:10:41.000 You save the country.

00:10:42.000 If we raise more good people than bad people, more righteous people, people that love the Lord and love liberty and love our nation, then we win.

00:10:51.000 It's simple math.

00:10:53.000 So if the good people no longer have children, or if the good people have a lot of children, well, then that's a predictive element of the country you're going to live in.

00:11:04.000 Kids and having children reframes everything and how you think about society.

00:11:09.000 For example, when you go to the hospital, all of a sudden you're like, well, why is this overrun by illegals? 1.00

00:11:13.000 Like, why don't I get prioritization?

00:11:16.000 You think about crime.

00:11:17.000 You think about schools.

00:11:18.000 You think about food.

00:11:19.000 You think about movies.

00:11:21.000 You think about the politics of the city.

00:11:26.000 And the world really belongs to the people who show up for it. 0.55

00:11:29.000 And I'm not in any way, you know, trying to make you feel bad if the Lord did not bless you with children.

00:11:34.000 In fact, there is a scripture I'll find you that God has a special heart for the childless.

00:11:38.000 The faithful and the childless, God has a special heart for.

00:11:40.000 I totally get that.

00:11:41.000 But if you are in a place where you say, I can, but I choose not to, or you're like one of these weird girls that like get your tubes tied like at 28 because you're like, I'm not going to have children. 0.94

00:11:52.000 Okay, that's a big problem.

00:11:53.000 I really think so.

00:11:56.000 And I think that having children is good for the society, civilization, and good for you.

00:11:59.000 And so children are a gift from the Lord.

00:12:03.000 And we need to celebrate that more.

00:12:05.000 And we need to be honest.

00:12:06.000 It's not easy, but it is fulfilling.

00:12:09.000 And it pleases the Lord when you raise children.

00:12:13.000 And so I encourage all of you to have more kids and to celebrate life coming into this world.

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00:13:34.000 I do want to read this email.

00:13:35.000 I think it's very touching.

00:13:36.000 And I'm not trying to be cruel or to make anyone feel bad.

00:13:39.000 I just want to celebrate life coming into the world, which we should all celebrate, obviously.

00:13:43.000 Then I want to get to the debates.

00:13:44.000 I have a lot to say about this debate news because I missed all of that last week.

00:13:48.000 And I have several thoughts that might actually take up the entire hour.

00:13:51.000 And then I also want to talk about all the recent vaccine news because I think it ties in with Trump and RFK.

00:13:56.000 So I'm kind of playing catch up here.

00:13:57.000 However, I want to just read this email.

00:13:58.000 Congratulations, Charlie, to your wife.

00:14:00.000 It is true about the later years in life.

00:14:02.000 I decided to be a pediatrician rather than marriage and children.

00:14:05.000 I felt it was God's will.

00:14:07.000 But now I'm 66 years old.

00:14:08.000 My parents are gone.

00:14:09.000 I have no family at all.

00:14:10.000 This is really when it hits women who choose career over children. 0.87

00:14:13.000 I saw some women who tried both, but children and family suffered.

00:14:16.000 I wish I had done it differently.

00:14:17.000 I have many years ahead of me, but hopefully it'll be without family and loved ones.

00:14:21.000 Hopefully it will be without family and loved ones.

00:14:23.000 Friends only go so far and fill in this space.

00:14:25.000 I think she says, hopefully, it will be with, I think Wish meant to write.

00:14:28.000 Susan, Susan, God has a plan for you, and I hear your regret and your voice, but it's not too late to help other people with their children or not too late to do something impactful the next generation.

00:14:37.000 In fact, you're watching this program and care about children and you're a pediatrician.

00:14:40.000 I know you've done a lot of good.

00:14:41.000 I only read that on air so that people can hear that because I think you would want that lament shared.

00:14:47.000 Okay, so the debates.

00:14:49.000 So yesterday, last week, I was getting so many text messages from people.

00:14:54.000 They said, Charlie, what do you think about the fact that Donald Trump is agreeing to debate and agreeing to debate?

00:14:57.000 I said, guys, I'm a little busy right now handling a couple things, managing a couple stuff.

00:15:02.000 But I had a lot of thoughts on this.

00:15:03.000 And so I was very encouraged by the fact that out of nowhere, Joe Biden takes up Donald Trump on his long-standing offer to debate.

00:15:16.000 This is the first and immediate takeaway that I think most people are missing.

00:15:20.000 It is now proven that the internal polling in the Biden campaign means he knows he's losing.

00:15:28.000 This means that Joe Biden's own data is showing that he is losing.

00:15:36.000 This shows that Joe Biden knows that his own internal tracking is not on pace.

00:15:45.000 And if the election were held today, Joe Biden does not feel good about his chances.

00:15:49.000 There is no other reason why Joe Biden out of nowhere would agree to go and to debate Donald Trump.

00:15:57.000 A confident campaign does not engage in debates.

00:16:02.000 The best example of this is Donald Trump not debating in the Republican primary this last year.

00:16:10.000 It was the right move for Donald Trump.

00:16:12.000 I'm up 20 or 30 points on these people.

00:16:14.000 I don't need to debate them.

00:16:16.000 So the first takeaway. should be unbelievably encouraging for you because we have been just bombarded with negative news and negative news and do we have a chance?

00:16:25.000 Not only do we have a chance, but Joe Biden agreeing for four debates with Donald Trump goes to show that Joe Biden believes he needs to take a risk.

00:16:36.000 Biden needs to take a risk and he needs to shake it up.

00:16:39.000 And Biden is the one who needs to roll the dice and introduce some chaos.

00:16:43.000 Now, I'm going to walk through with this into great detail because I believe that this is largely a trap.

00:16:48.000 It's a trap that I think that Donald Trump can use against them.

00:16:51.000 I think Donald Trump can navigate it.

00:16:52.000 I think Donald Trump can come out triumphant.

00:16:54.000 But we must be very clear.

00:16:55.000 This is not just all roses and beautiful times ahead.

00:17:00.000 This is a thicket and a thorn.

00:17:04.000 It's a thicket of traps.

00:17:05.000 It is going to be an ambush campaign by the Biden campaign via CNN.

00:17:11.000 However, understand on Sunday of last week, that New York Times Sienna poll came out that showed Donald Trump up like 13 in Nevada and seven points in Arizona and six points in Georgia.

00:17:25.000 And we said, boy, these numbers, there's no way they're true.

00:17:28.000 And then 40 hours later, Joe Biden says, how many debates can we agree to?

00:17:34.000 That means that Joe Biden has consistent internal polling.

00:17:39.000 Now, for those that do not know, internal campaign polling is far more accurate than the publicized polls from news agencies.

00:17:49.000 Now, I run an outside group, turning point action, so I'm not allowed to even learn about internal polling.

00:17:54.000 But back when I used to not run an outside group and way back when, five, six, 10 years ago, I would always ask campaigns, what do your internals show?

00:18:03.000 And just so you understand, Donald Trump and Joe Biden will spend tens of millions of dollars on just polling.

00:18:11.000 They have in-house pollsters that all they're doing is they're constantly polling.

00:18:15.000 You might say, well, why are they doing that?

00:18:17.000 Well, because they want to know how they're tracking in certain states.

00:18:19.000 Did this scandal or did this news story impact voters?

00:18:22.000 Do we want to spend advertising money here?

00:18:24.000 What door should we knock on?

00:18:25.000 Measure twice cut once.

00:18:27.000 Measure twice cut once.

00:18:28.000 And so Fabrizio does all the polling for Donald Trump.

00:18:31.000 I don't know who does all the polling for Joe Biden.

00:18:34.000 But by a candidate's action, you can then get a window into the internal polling.

00:18:40.000 This is one of the invisible things that having lots and lots of money gets you.

00:18:43.000 And Joe Biden has lots of money, endless data.

00:18:46.000 And that endless data that Joe Biden has was screaming at him.

00:18:51.000 And I'm going to tell you what that data irrefutably showed, that I think every other show has been missing.

00:18:59.000 I've been listening to a lot of podcasts the last week.

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00:20:08.000 Okay, back to the debates, because this is the big news of the summer.

00:20:11.000 And there's a debate whether or not there's going to be four debates or not.

00:20:15.000 So let's talk about just the unusual aspect of this.

00:20:17.000 That there's a summer debate.

00:20:20.000 Now, Blake can fact check me.

00:20:21.000 In my lifetime, I can say certainly there's never been a summer debate.

00:20:24.000 There's never been a debate before like September 10th in modern presidential debate history.

00:20:30.000 That's number one.

00:20:31.000 Number two, I don't think there's ever been a summer debate.

00:20:34.000 Maybe, boy, I mean, the Lincoln Douglas debates weren't presidential debates, but it's just usually it's always after the convention.

00:20:43.000 So debates were traditionally always late because remember, we used to have election day and not election month.

00:20:49.000 This is pre-convention, and this sidesteps the presidential commission on debates.

00:20:54.000 This is just a cable television spectacle.

00:20:57.000 So let me tell you what Joe Biden's data is screaming at him.

00:21:03.000 Joe Biden's data is screaming this, that he's doing poorly.

00:21:08.000 Number one, that Joe Biden is doing poorly.

00:21:11.000 No spin, no BS.

00:21:13.000 Joe Biden is unpopular.

00:21:14.000 Donald Trump is popular.

00:21:16.000 The trials are not working.

00:21:17.000 The law fair is not working.

00:21:19.000 Joe Biden waited for the Alvin Bragg trial to get going before he agreed to any debates.

00:21:26.000 This is all harmonized.

00:21:28.000 There is synchronicity here where Joe Biden needed to wait to say, huh, are his numbers going to go down because he's sitting in a courthouse in New York?

00:21:37.000 Nope.

00:21:39.000 Is Donald Trump going to become less popular because of the Stormy Daniels link?

00:21:44.000 Nope.

00:21:45.000 Is Donald Trump going to be hurt by the fact that he can't campaign and hasn't visited Arizona in like a year and a half?

00:21:51.000 Nope.

00:21:51.000 So Joe Biden, again, not him, but his team.

00:21:54.000 Let me be very clear.

00:21:54.000 When I say Joe Biden, I mean the cabal.

00:21:56.000 I mean the ruling class.

00:21:57.000 I mean the regime.

00:21:58.000 So the Joe Biden regime is analyzing this data, analyzing this data, analyzing this data, analyzing this data.

00:22:05.000 And they realize that the law fair not working.

00:22:08.000 And remember, two weeks ago, we got all that news of motions to dismiss and delayed without any further notice.

00:22:16.000 And the documents case is not going to come in.

00:22:18.000 And Jack Smith has to have an evidentiary hearing.

00:22:20.000 And so all the law fair stuff that could hurt Donald Trump's numbers, that all got put aside.

00:22:27.000 So Joe Biden has been running out of tricks up his sleeve.

00:22:31.000 But make no mistake, don't be surprised if there's bird flu, cow flu, reptile flu, snake flu, rattlesnake flu, you know, something that's going to come out of here.

00:22:41.000 Lobster flu, you know, the lobstermen in Maine are getting the flu from, you know, the mollusks that they're, that they're harvesting up there.

00:22:50.000 Something's going to happen, okay?

00:22:52.000 So just understand that there's going to be something that is going to sweep over the nation.

00:22:58.000 And they got something up their sleeve.

00:23:00.000 So Joe Biden sees two pieces of data.

00:23:03.000 And the first piece of data, I think some people are highlighting.

00:23:05.000 Oh, yeah, Joe Biden is desperate.

00:23:07.000 Therefore, he wants the debate.

00:23:10.000 But the second piece of data that I think we must understand is that Joe Biden has evidence that leads him to believe the fact that Donald Trump has been largely censored, not on Twitter anymore.

00:23:26.000 He's allowed back on, but he doesn't do it.

00:23:27.000 They don't air his rallies on television anymore.

00:23:31.000 That the memory of Donald Trump is far more popular than when people actually sometimes hear from Trump.

00:23:39.000 Now, I don't necessarily think that's always true, but that's Joe Biden's big bet.

00:23:44.000 Joe Biden's big bet is this.

00:23:46.000 We need to get him on television as much as possible.

00:23:51.000 We need to get Donald Trump in a contentious debate format.

00:23:55.000 Now, this could go either way.

00:23:56.000 And we have to understand, CNN is an ambush waiting to happen.

00:24:00.000 That is not exactly going to be easy stuff.

00:24:04.000 And understand, Trump has been very successful using the breakouts of the trial as campaign moments, going to the race in southern Florida, going to the bodega, going to the Bronx, doing all of that.

00:24:16.000 He has been amazing at creating these viral moments.

00:24:20.000 And Joe Biden has had zero bump.

00:24:23.000 In fact, the latest polls, which now we can say these polls have some accuracy, because if these polls didn't have some accuracy, they're outside of the margin for Joe Biden's machine to be able to make up for it.

00:24:33.000 All the ballot chasing, all the voter registration, he is in crisis.

00:24:36.000 So Joe Biden says, I'm not doing well.

00:24:39.000 And my big plan to save my campaign is going to try to get Donald Trump on a debate stage earlier than later and to try to bait him, to interrupt me, to make him look as if he is not presidential.

00:24:52.000 And people will say, okay, I might not like the way Joe Biden is doing, but I don't want to live under Donald Trump.

00:24:59.000 And we have to go back to 2020.

00:25:01.000 Again, Joe Biden is now broadcasting his entire campaign strategy.

00:25:05.000 Sometimes to keep this stuff private or secret, Joe Biden, he doesn't have time to put things in secret anymore.

00:25:10.000 And by the way, let's not make any, let's not, you know, fool ourselves.

00:25:13.000 This is unbelievably risky for Joe Biden, too.

00:25:16.000 I mean, Joe Biden could just flat out just combust. 0.58

00:25:20.000 Remember, Joe Biden, like yesterday, called, you know, we got a bunch of erectionists taking over the country.

00:25:24.000 No, seriously, not insurrectionists. 0.53

00:25:27.000 He said erectionists.

00:25:28.000 You know, on his teleprompter, he says pause.

00:25:30.000 The drug cocktail that he's going to put, Joe Biden is going to walk up to there and they should just say, Joe Biden, brought to you by Pfizer.

00:25:38.000 Joe Biden, brought to you by Moderna.

00:25:40.000 Joe Biden, brought to you by AstraZeneca.

00:25:42.000 I mean, what they are pumping that guy full of is some sort of mixture of norepinephrine and adrenaline and some stabilizer.

00:25:51.000 And they got the cocktail of drugs.

00:25:53.000 I want to meet that chemist, by the way, that is responsible for the Joe Biden daily drug infusions.

00:26:00.000 He's probably got IV therapy going here.

00:26:02.000 He's got all sorts of different stuff.

00:26:04.000 Okay.

00:26:04.000 So it's a risk for Joe Biden, too.

00:26:07.000 We have to make sure that we acknowledge that.

00:26:11.000 So the debates, Joe Biden thinks that you can get Donald Trump on TV, he's going to plummet in popularity.

00:26:20.000 Well, not so fast, my friend.

00:26:21.000 The only way this goes poorly for Trump, the only way, and I plan to call the president and tell him this, I plan to tell the campaign team, and I'm saying this publicly, the only way this goes bad is if you interrupt Joe Biden.

00:26:34.000 That's the only way.

00:26:35.000 I can say this as someone who has debated thousands and thousands of hours.

00:26:41.000 No one likes an interrupter.

00:26:44.000 Period.

00:26:46.000 And in the first presidential debate back in 2020, people say Donald Trump lost.

00:26:52.000 First of all, he had COVID.

00:26:53.000 We have to remember that.

00:26:54.000 People say Donald Trump lost, and he wasn't 100%.

00:26:58.000 He had COVID during the time.

00:27:02.000 Because he interrupted.

00:27:03.000 Now, remember, the rules say the mics will be off even when it's not their turn.

00:27:08.000 But CNN is going to try to do a double shot and show Donald Trump.

00:27:12.000 He would just be angry, yelling off screen without even his mic on.

00:27:15.000 And I'd call you even be worse.

00:27:17.000 So just because the mics are cut doesn't mean that CNN would not try to maximize that as a way to hurt Trump. 0.74

00:27:22.000 So the only way that I see this goes poorly is if Donald Trump gets angry because Joe Biden is a buffoon and he believes he should still be president, which is totally legitimate, and or he interrupts.

00:27:34.000 Interruption could make Joe Biden look better.

00:27:38.000 So when Joe Biden goes on and on and on and he's muttering about how inflation is coming down and that the border is secure, it's okay, in my personal opinion, if President Trump kind of does the, you know, the famous meme where he kind of looks up and he's kind of rolling his eyes, perfectly fine.

00:27:53.000 Or if he smiles, in fact, my advice to Donald Trump would be, don't be afraid to smile.

00:27:58.000 Don't be afraid just to laugh.

00:27:59.000 Don't be afraid just to shrug your shoulders.

00:28:02.000 Allow your enemy to destroy himself while he's talking because here is why.

00:28:07.000 It's not as if the American people have not had a steady dose of Joe Biden.

00:28:10.000 Joe Biden's numbers will not go up and they will not go down if he has a minute and a half uninterrupted just to meander about how the stock market is at record highs, yet people cannot afford rent.

00:28:21.000 Allow him just to do that.

00:28:23.000 It's fine.

00:28:24.000 It is tempting.

00:28:25.000 And I could say this, I'm not a professional debater, but I debate a lot and I debate college kids.

00:28:30.000 I debate professors.

00:28:31.000 I debate all sorts of people.

00:28:32.000 I debate people in the streets and debate, whatever, is that allow people to make their point.

00:28:39.000 It's tempting not to.

00:28:41.000 Allow them to just kind of get it out.

00:28:43.000 And their big bet is this.

00:28:44.000 Since Joe Biden is now in a crisis, and make no mistake, Joe Biden agreeing to a debate is him communicating to you that he's in crisis, that it is all-out crisis, that this is not going well.

00:29:03.000 And there's so many wrinkles to this because this tells you so much.

00:29:06.000 Don't be shocked that if Joe Biden just crashes and burns, that might be his last chance.

00:29:11.000 This might be Joe Biden's last chance before the Democrat regime pulls him off, pulls him out.

00:29:17.000 The polling averages this last weekend from decision desk and the Hill.

00:29:23.000 These are over 50 polls, 30 or 40 polls sometimes.

00:29:27.000 Nevada, Trump up six.

00:29:28.000 Arizona, Trump up six.

00:29:30.000 Georgia, Trump up six.

00:29:32.000 North Carolina, Trump up five, 4.6.

00:29:34.000 Michigan, Trump up four.

00:29:36.000 Pennsylvania, Trump up 1.7.

00:29:38.000 Wisconsin, Trump up 0.8.

00:29:41.000 So there's no reason to be cocky with this, but Joe Biden is now telling you and his entire team, we don't think things are trending well.

00:29:48.000 And the backup opportunity for the Democrats is if Joe Biden bombs super hard in the debate, that's how they can finally force him out and they think it's his only hope.

00:29:59.000 So Joe Biden, not Trump, has a lot more to lose with this summer debate.

00:30:06.000 Do I love the fact that we're doing a summer debate?

00:30:09.000 I don't know.

00:30:10.000 But attitudinally, I would rather have a campaign that plays to win than plays it safe.

00:30:19.000 Okay, so two things I want to highlight here.

00:30:22.000 Number one, here's why I love it.

00:30:24.000 Strategically, it might not be the smartest thing for Trump to accept all these debates because he's up in the polls and he's favored in the prediction markets, but I dismiss all of that.

00:30:33.000 Donald Trump is best.

00:30:36.000 His movement is best when they play to win, when they, when we play offense, when we are not just kind of sitting around waiting for things to happen, when we take the initiative, when we say, yes, sir, let's do it, when we set it on our terms.

00:30:50.000 Now, going on CNN with, what do they have, like Jake Tapper or somebody moderating this?

00:30:54.000 I missed it, Anderson Cooper or somebody moderating the debate.

00:30:58.000 That's not on our terms.

00:30:59.000 But what I mean is that playing offense generally helps Donald Trump.

00:31:06.000 Donald Trump needs to have this belief.

00:31:08.000 Very simple.

00:31:10.000 You tie the game.

00:31:12.000 Now you're down one.

00:31:13.000 You're down, let's say you're down seven.

00:31:16.000 You score a touchdown with no time remaining.

00:31:18.000 You go for two.

00:31:19.000 You're not playing for overtime.

00:31:22.000 You're not playing for just kick the extra point.

00:31:25.000 You go for two.

00:31:27.000 Donald Trump in 16, 2016, he played like that and he won.

00:31:31.000 He did more rallies.

00:31:32.000 He visited the states.

00:31:33.000 In 2020, you could make the argument his campaign team was a little more cautious.

00:31:38.000 It was not as much of a play to win.

00:31:40.000 It was more of a conventional campaign.

00:31:42.000 Didn't work out as well.

00:31:45.000 Again, I believe that actually all things being equal, he should still be president.

00:31:48.000 But again, it didn't work out as well.

00:31:50.000 So that the playing to win mentality, I really appreciate.

00:31:55.000 And I think it's when Donald Trump is at his best.

00:31:58.000 Some people are naturally great at offense.

00:32:01.000 Some people are naturally great at defense.

00:32:03.000 Some people are okay at both.

00:32:05.000 Donald Trump is a purely offensive player.

00:32:08.000 His whole life was about new deals, new developments, more speeches, more growth.

00:32:13.000 Democrats, by the way, are not great at defense.

00:32:17.000 Traditionally, it's Democrats that are playing offense.

00:32:20.000 Traditionally, it's Democrats that are setting the engagement.

00:32:23.000 This is one of the reasons, and Rush Limbaugh taught us this.

00:32:26.000 Remember, the great Rush Limbaugh taught us this.

00:32:28.000 They hate Trump because he plays offense against them and they have poor defense.

00:32:33.000 They're not used to having to defend their positions.

00:32:35.000 They're not used to having to play under our modus operandi.

00:32:40.000 So playing to win.

00:32:41.000 And finally, I like the idea that there will be lots of debates because remember, Donald Trump is crushing Joe Biden with low propensity voters.

00:32:52.000 Low propensity voters are very hard to reach, very hard to chase their ballots.

00:32:58.000 Debates are essentially mini Super Bowl viewing events that make it easier for us to expand the pool of voters of people that are coming into the Trump fold, the plumbers, electricians, the welders, the working class Hispanics and blacks, the young men.

00:33:17.000 When you have more programming on television that increases the awareness of the election, then you will have a one-to-one correlation between how many people view the debate and how many people turn out.

00:33:32.000 It's almost a one-to-one.

00:33:33.000 In fact, you can do an analysis of the most watched debates and the highest presidential turnout in the last 30 years.

00:33:42.000 It's not a perfect science.

00:33:43.000 There are some exceptions.

00:33:44.000 But for example, some of the highest turnout that we've seen in 2008 with John McCain and Barack Obama, people are so curious, who's this Obama guy?

00:33:52.000 How is he going to do against this senator?

00:33:55.000 And so for those of us that are trying to chase ballots of low propensity voters in states like Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania, people that are very, very difficult to reach, more debates and more programming on television increases turnout and hurts the Democrats.

00:34:13.000 Traditionally, higher turnout hurts the Democrats, but the Democrats have plateaued because they've built such a sophisticated machine that there's not, there's only so many reservoirs of votes that they can then go frack or explore, unless you're going to go after illegal alien voters.

00:34:31.000 That's a whole separate topic for a different time.

00:34:34.000 So when you have presidential programming, presidential debate programming that is viewed by 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 million people, that opens up the opportunity to allow us to chase ballots of low propensity voters.

00:34:49.000 And that doesn't count all the social media cuts.

00:34:51.000 This will be, without a doubt, these series of debates will be some of the most watched programming.

00:34:57.000 Now, the CNN, not as much because it's not on network TV.

00:35:00.000 I bet CNN will hit 15, 20 million people.

00:35:04.000 The network ones, the CBS ones, I think they're doing one with CBS.

00:35:08.000 That'll be 50 or 60 or 70 million people.

00:35:12.000 So on average, it is a trap.

00:35:14.000 I think Donald Trump can navigate it.

00:35:16.000 He has to be ready for what they're going to throw at him.

00:35:18.000 But all things being equal, this will be a net positive if we make it a net positive.

00:35:23.000 We play to win, we play offense, and we seize victory.

00:35:26.000 We just don't act as if it's going to land in our lap.

00:35:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:33.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:35.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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