00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Dr. Robert Malone breaks down inverse totalitarianism, the fourth branch of government, BA5 and BA4.
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00:01:11.000We're continuing our COVID special with someone who I consider to be remarkably wise and courageous in our times of confusion, Dr. Robert Malone, who I believe has saved millions of lives thanks to his commentary.
00:01:27.000Dr. Malone, welcome back to the program.
00:01:29.000Charlie, it is such a pleasure to be here.
00:01:32.000And I just wanted to give you a shout out for your amazing leadership over the last couple of years and clarity of thought.
00:02:19.000It sounds kind of technical and scary.
00:02:21.000What it means is that the force of the mass vaccination campaign, plus other people having just generally been infected by the prior strains, has resulted in a situation where the virus has evolved to escape the pre-existing immunity against Wuhan 1 and against the Wuhan 1 spike protein.
00:02:48.000So BA4 and BA5 are evolved escape virus mutants that circumvent both to some extent natural immunity and absolutely circumvent the vaccine-induced immunity.
00:03:02.000The data gets stronger every single day.
00:03:07.000The people that are at high risk for repeat infection and chronic infection and highest risk for hospitalization and unfortunately death with BA5 are the subset of people that are highly vaccinated.
00:03:27.000This has been seen in country after country after country.
00:03:31.000It is not the ones that have the natural immunity consequent to natural infection by the prior strains of the virus.
00:03:40.000The mechanism for this, we've all been talking about the problem with antibody-dependent enhancement, which is certainly a worry that the FDA has recognized from the outset.
00:03:51.000But that does not appear to be the mechanism here.
00:03:56.000What we appear to have, in addition to evolution to escape the suppression from the immune response generated by these narrow vaccines, is something called immune imprinting.
00:04:09.000The government is behaving as if this doesn't exist.
00:04:13.000They didn't acknowledge it in any of their FDA or CDC meetings.
00:04:18.000And yet, there are many, many, many high-caliber peer-reviewed papers now that demonstrate that immune imprinting is the problem.
00:04:29.000In terms of is BA5 a major risk to those of us that have natural immunity, BA5 functionally is like the common cold.
00:04:40.000It's associated with runny nose, sore throat, some congestion.
00:04:45.000It is a high-risk virus for those that are heavily boosted.
00:04:51.000But the fear porn is absolutely unwarranted.
00:05:09.000South Africa has largely already cleared BA5.
00:05:13.000Many of the other nations are well on the way.
00:05:15.000I put out multiple substacks showing people the raw data from all over the world, from different countries, so you can make your own determination.
00:05:25.000Like the monkeypox outbreak, this is a clear case of media spin or what I like to call fear porn because that's what it is.
00:05:35.000It's a business model for CNN and other companies to make profit, to spin up fear, and to evoke control mechanisms in the general population.
00:05:48.000And I think the reason why all the spin was mounted was because they were anticipating the need to re-up the emergency medical determination, which is what allows all of these bypassing of Bill of Rights and implementation of emergency use authorizations, et cetera.
00:06:14.000I think this was spun up to justify their decision to go ahead and re-up the medical emergency statement, even though there's clearly no medical emergency.
00:06:34.000Yes, so the kind of synthesis we go through on this program, and it's worth repeating, if there's no crisis, then there's no EUA or emergency use authorization.
00:06:45.000If there's no EUA, then there's no experimental vaccines.
00:06:49.000If there's no vaccines, then there's no vaccine passports.
00:06:52.000If there's no vaccine passports, there's no social credit system or digital identity, no social credit score, no great reset.
00:07:00.000So that's the kind of synthesis that we walk people through, which is there's actually a global political game that is camouflaging itself as a public health crisis that is unfolding in America.
00:07:17.000And I got to tell you, Charlie, every time I turn around the corner when I'm evaluating this, the pair of eyes I see looking out for me from the other direction belong to Mr. Bill Gates.
00:07:30.000Yeah, that seems to be a common theme and a common thread.
00:09:41.000In the words of Dennis Prager, who is a religious Jew, he said, in Judaism, it's unclear whether or not there is Satan or the devil.
00:09:51.000He said, but the last couple years certainly made me believe that there was evil and that there was some force in the demonic pushing it.
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00:12:03.000Dr. Malone, if I remember correctly, you have a fondness for the American farm that you live out in the country.
00:12:12.000And I bring this up for a reason, because Bill Gates is purchasing farmland all across America.
00:12:18.000I know this is not a medical question, but I'm going to ask you to speculate, why on earth would one of the world's wealthiest men need to buy up all this farmland?
00:12:25.000What do you think is his calculus in doing so?
00:12:29.000Again, you're asking me to get into the head of Bill Gates, and that's something that I just, I can't do.
00:12:36.000This is my sixth small farm that we currently live on.
00:12:41.000I was a farmer and a ranch hand before I was a physician and a scientist.
00:12:47.000The agricultural community all over the world is upset by the policies that are being implemented by the WEF, World Economic Forum, that often relate to the ESG scores and the logic of environmentalism and global warming.
00:13:14.000And of course, we're seeing that with the Dutch farmers and also UK, British, many others.
00:13:21.000And what we've learned is that this has been a long-term play.
00:13:26.000Many of my colleagues in the ag community have known of Mr. Gates's behaviors for quite a while now.
00:13:33.000He appears to have bought up a lot of the land in Oahu, just to give another example.
00:13:38.000He's been buying up land all over the United States, often along waterways.
00:13:44.000So that raises the speculation that he's trying to capture water rights.
00:13:51.000What is being observed is that these players that are buying up the farmland are then often taking it out of production.
00:14:01.000And it's hard to comprehend the logic of that.
00:14:06.000There's a phrase that's being used globally now called Greta Famine.
00:14:10.000There's an anticipation that we may see in the next year over a billion people with severe famine consequent to the various activities related to the environmental, social, and governance scoring, the climate agenda, and these various very, very large investor activities,
00:14:38.000which seem to be seeking to actively manipulate our food supply.
00:14:44.000Of course, this feeds right into the fear that's associated with all of these inexplicable fires in food processing plants.
00:14:53.000It does, my ag buddies tell me in, for instance, the cattle business, et cetera, that USDA over time, together with these kind of globalists in their agenda, has created a situation in which the American producer has really got the short end of the stick.
00:15:14.000For instance, beef that's brought into the United States from Latin America from these mega farms, all they have to do is touch it with a knife and it's considered made in the United States.
00:15:24.000There's a whole bunch of policies that have been put in place here that are absolutely opposed to the interests of the American farmer, American heartland.
00:15:41.000And Charlie, it really goes back, I'm sorry to say, to the Nixon administration and Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butts, who believed in the idea of get big or get out.
00:15:52.000That's what transformed American agriculture, is what destroyed the small town in America.
00:15:57.000It's what destroyed our small farmers.
00:16:00.000And what they did was they implemented the use of big agribusiness, chemical fertilizers, the whole Monsanto cropping technology roundup, etc.
00:16:12.000It was all brought in under the guise of feeding the world, but it's actually those policies that are driving all these things like the nitrogen ponds in the middle of the ocean, the phosphate contamination in our waterways.
00:16:30.000A lot of these pollution and major problems are actually the consequence, the unintended blowback of the naive agriculture policies that were put in place under Big Ag and Wall Street, beginning with the Nixon administration.
00:16:46.000And we're just living the consequences now.
00:16:49.000And unfortunately, what they're doing is they're blaming the farmers.
00:16:52.000But it's not the farmers that cause the problem.
00:17:04.000It's never the scientific, unelected elite.
00:17:07.000It's always the property owners that are the problem.
00:17:10.000That is the middle class, the golden mean, as Aristotle would call it.
00:17:13.000That has to always be the enemy of the regime.
00:17:16.000And it makes for a perfect enemy because they own land and they're terrible and they go to church.
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00:18:08.000Dr. Malone, I want to live in a country where I trust my medical institutions.
00:18:13.000I actually think there's a role for medical institutions, but I don't trust the CDC, the FDA, NIH.
00:18:19.000Dr. Ryan Cole reported on a myriad of really serious cancers, but we also have a cancer, I could say, of a mistrust that pervades all these institutions.
00:18:30.000I know people that are saying for the first time ever, I'm skipping my flu shot.
00:20:19.000I also saw exactly foretold well over a year ago on Twitter that the kind of reaction that you've had is exactly what would be anticipated as blowback from the policies and practices that they were implementing.
00:20:35.000Now, you asked this is increasingly the big question.
00:20:40.000Let's assume that there is a wave election at the midterm.
00:22:06.000Just to give one little window, Tony Fauci, on top of the royalty payments he's getting from pharma, which the NIH will not disclose under FOIA what they are and who he's getting them from and for what patents.
00:22:22.000When he retires, he's anticipating at the end of this presidential term.
00:22:28.000He will receive about $580,000 a year for his annual salary, and his retirement pension alone on an annual basis will exceed that of the president's annual salary.
00:22:43.000His wife currently receives more salary than does the vice president.
00:22:49.000The corruption is so deep and so broad, and you can see it on a daily basis.
00:22:58.000We've seen it with, you mentioned the emergency use authorizations.
00:23:02.000In the emergency use authorizations, Peter Marks, the head of Center for Biologic Evaluation and Research from FDA, who's overseeing all these vaccines, has to sign a document, which he does every time they issue another EUA, that certifies that there are no other alternatives other than the product that is being authorized under the EUA.
00:23:26.000In other words, so monoclonal antibodies, repurposed drugs, other vaccines, none of this is applicable.
00:23:37.000In the case of today's or yesterday's authorization with Novavax, what they did was they certified, well, Novavax will meet emergency use authorization criteria because there isn't enough of the other vaccines.
00:24:24.000I don't want to be looking into the abyss.
00:24:28.000And people need hope coming off of this.
00:24:32.000But the best hope that I can find right now is in the Supreme Court.
00:24:40.000The Supreme Court appointments, everybody thinks that was all about Roe v. Wade.
00:24:45.000And they've all got their tails in a twist.
00:24:47.000And the little crew is busy doing show arrests where they pretend they got handcuffs, even though they didn't.
00:24:57.000All of this theater going on over Roe v. Wade.
00:25:03.000This was not about Roe v. Wade, my friends.
00:25:06.000More telling was West Virginia versus EPA.
00:25:10.000The most important decision that we've heard come down from the U.S. Supreme Court and the one that foreshadows what I hope is going to become the broader trend is not the decision about Roe v. Wade.
00:25:26.000It is the decision about West Virginia versus EPA.
00:25:31.000And what that clearly establishes is what Trump, bless his heart, has tried to do.
00:25:38.000He got blocked repeatedly, including with Schedule F, which Biden immediately rescinded when he came into power.
00:25:47.000But Trump put in place these conservative administrative law experts who are working to limit the power of the unelected administrative state, which controls the government.
00:26:01.000The senior executive service can functionally not be fired.
00:26:11.000It takes two years to fire them unless they're caught in some gross breach.
00:26:20.000And they are the ones that are controlling everything.
00:26:23.000This is why the language of inverse totalitarianism and the fascism, which is to say the public-private partnership that these people have put in place with large business, large pharma, is that is what we have to break up.
00:26:41.000If we're going to control our country again, if we're going to have a representative democracy, we have got to bring the administrative state to heel.
00:27:10.000He never had to canvass for signatures.
00:27:13.000It's a complete violation of the consent of the governed.
00:27:17.000And that's kind of, you know, they want to do a great reset, a constitutional reset where we're going to reset separation of powers and consent to the governed and checks and balances.
00:27:26.000Dr. Malone, you are pinpointing something so remarkably important, which is the CDC and the NIH, they are captured because these are creations that are extra constitutional.
00:27:38.000They're outside of the intent, the structure of our constitution.
00:27:43.000I testified to this and thank you, Charlie, for that lead-in at the Texas State Senate.
00:27:52.000I have been trained as an expert in biodefense and outbreaks for over a decade that the states have the right to regulate the practice of medicine.
00:28:04.000It is not listed in the Constitution as a federal power.
00:28:12.000And the CDC, FDA, NIH, BARDA all knows that that's the case.
00:28:17.000They have used these surreptitious incentives like very programs for healthcare for the poor, the feds have, to force the states to comply with federal guidance that we now know Debbie Burks actively, together with Bob Redfield,
00:28:44.000actively manipulated directly CDC guidance, overruled CDC employees, and basically ate whatever the Central Communist Party of China, I'm furious over.
00:29:02.000Debbie Burks outlines in her book that she is still not aware that the information that she used to force us into these mandates and lockdowns was Chinese propaganda.
00:29:17.000Whether or not she knew that she was acting as an intelligence asset of the Central Communist Party, that in fact is what she did.
00:29:27.000And then Dr. Burks comes out and she says, well, we were just hoping our strategy was to hope that it would all work.
00:29:33.000Dr. Malone, there's so many topics I want to ask you about.
00:29:36.000I have all this preparation I did beforehand, but I do want to ask, which is, look, you were one of the first people to show and challenge the vaccine narrative industrial complex.
00:29:48.000A lot of us feel vindicated because we went through mandates, we went through all these different sorts of things.
00:29:54.000And now we're at this period of time where people are asking the question: you know, are we ever going to get an apology?
00:30:03.000Are we ever going to get you get, and I told you so us for say, I told you so.
00:30:09.000I'm sure you also feel vindicated, but it seems that all of these, you know, cancers and all these terrible things we've been seeing, it's almost a very bitter victory for a lot of us.
00:30:21.000So, Dr. Malone, what is it about the temperament or the attitude of our elites where we don't even get a slight adjustment, a recognition of error, an apology, nothing?
00:30:32.000I know I'm asking you to get into somebody's head in some way, but not really, because I think it's rather instructive of what we're dealing with, because they are relentless in still accusing us despite being wrong about everything.
00:30:43.000Don't you think we deserve an apology right about now?
00:30:48.000Well, okay, so what we deserve and what we're going to get are two different things.
00:30:56.000We are in, Charlie, as you know, and it's important that your listeners understand this.
00:31:04.000We are in an information warfare environment.
00:31:07.000It is unrestricted information warfare and propaganda.
00:31:15.000They will continue to attack things that those of us were raised in a Judeo-Christian ethical environment believe to be sacrosanct, they don't care about.
00:31:29.000Do not expect them to behave in the way that we would expect that we would hold ourselves to.
00:31:36.000That is not the way these people are wired.
00:31:53.000They see your listeners as economic objects to be manipulated for their own personal gain and power.
00:32:01.000And until we come to grips with the fact that we are in an asymmetric warfare environment with total information control and propaganda, we are going to continue to get beaten like a dog.
00:32:17.000That is exactly what we have to understand.
00:32:20.000They are never, and you understand it.
00:33:00.000We have to, as Matthias Desmond teaches, and your listeners, you need to reach deep into your Judeo-Christian belief system, which, you know, turn the other cheek is a nice thing to say, but sometimes we got to go a little Old Testament here.
00:33:16.000But you need to understand this is war and do not expect any quarter from their side.
00:33:27.000He also went into the temple and he made, he threw some tables over and he didn't have nice things to say about people who went after children.
00:33:36.000He actually said, people that go to children, it is better for you to have a millstone around your neck.