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00:01:57.000This was about the Smithsonian as an American institution that has been so deeply and thoroughly ideologically captured by the left.
00:02:06.000For the past several years, the Smithsonian has been pushing left wing exhibits, left wing ideologies.
00:02:13.000They've infused their entire museum really with a form of sort of cultural Marxism that looks at history through the lens of migration and through sexuality and through things that have nothing really seriously or directly to do with history.
00:02:32.000And you can see that practically in exhibits that they put up where they'll show pictures of a man wearing bondage gear, you know, showing off all kinds of sexual fetishes, where they will promote.
00:02:44.000You know, the transgender Guatemalan activist, illegal alien who's trying to sway American elections but then downplay our founding fathers.
00:02:54.000I mean, this is the kind of stuff that has gotten into this museum.
00:02:58.000And our goal in Congress is to oversee this institution and ensure that American tax dollars, especially dollars that are funding this, are being well spent and that this institution is actually promoting American interests.
00:03:12.000Okay, so that's a great premise and a great setup.
00:03:15.000And I completely agree with your starting point that this is a captured.
00:03:19.000So any changes to bring balance to it, they act like President Trump and the Trump administration and you guys in Congress are a bunch of fascists for trying to actually present something that isn't completely demoralized about the history of America.
00:03:34.000And that was the tell for me when I saw these clips coming through yesterday.
00:03:38.000And I have to say, and I want to compliment you on something because it's a very difficult needle to thread as a congressman.
00:04:36.000It certainly does to me because, as part of this white supremacy document that your organization has promoted, objectivity is a core and defining aspect of white supremacy culture.
00:04:49.000Do you think that it's the goal of the Smithsonian Institution to promote white supremacy culture?
00:04:54.000Are you promoting a white supremacy culture at the Smithsonian?
00:05:10.000I'm not normally a big fan of congressional hearings, but you really make them something, Congressman Gill.
00:05:15.000So I remember, I recall what a lot of what this hearing was sort of referring to that white supremacy culture document that the Smithsonian had on their website where they say showing up on time, working hard, all these things are white supremacy.
00:05:30.000So we're almost two years into the second Trump administration here.
00:05:35.000So am I correct in understanding this stuff is still all over the place there?
00:05:40.000Can you lay out for our listeners what is going on at the Smithsonian today?
00:05:48.000It's that the people who are running the institution, like Director Hardig, are still there and are still calling many of the shots.
00:05:55.000The original white supremacy document that the Smithsonian Institution had promoted, they then rescinded at one point and replaced it with another document that said basically the exact same thing objectively offensive things like objectivity is.
00:06:10.000Evidence of white supremacy culture, politeness, things like that, that I think most Americans would find just beyond absurd.
00:06:20.000And the point of the questioning there was to kind of highlight that.
00:06:25.000I mean, for so long, the left got away with labeling anybody as racist or as a white supremacist based on any possible assumptions they could make or any possible groundwork.
00:06:39.000So, saying somebody is polite, for instance, under a left wing Worldview was evidence that they're a white supremacist.
00:06:46.000So you just ask these leftists just very directly whether that is what they believe.
00:06:52.000And I think it really exposes and highlights how insane this is.
00:06:56.000And that, you know, to a certain degree, I don't think they even believe some of this stuff whenever they're kind of confronted.
00:07:13.000And to Blake's point, I thought we were done with this.
00:07:16.000The fact that I'm hearing now from you that it's still embedded in these institutions shows that how successful their long march has been.
00:07:23.000We win a landslide victory electorally in November 2024, and this stuff is still embedded.
00:07:30.000It's so difficult to get this stuff out.
00:07:33.000Is this another case where technically the Smithsonian is independent and nonpartisan, and so it's been 100% politicized, and it's very difficult to undo?
00:07:42.000Is there something we can do to fix this besides humiliating these people in Congress?
00:07:47.000Yeah, the Smithsonian is governed by what is supposed to be kind of a nonpartisan board.
00:07:51.000There are a few members of Congress on it, some of whom have been very helpful with us in putting together these materials.
00:07:58.000But Congress does have the power of the purse, and we do give them money every year, so we've got leverage over them there.
00:08:04.000And there are other ways that we can exert influence on the institution itself.
00:08:09.000And I think that that begins with exposing some of this rot.
00:08:14.000I think that obviously Director Hardick should be fired.
00:08:18.000But this does show that we like to talk about woke as dead, and that sounds good, but really woke is just kind of dormant right now.
00:08:28.000This is an ideology that the left is so married to.
00:08:31.000And you see that in DEI, and we've got a DEI hearing in about two hours.
00:08:36.000But you see, the left is so married to DEI and other forms of wokeness that they're not just going to give it up because the law tells them to or because it's unpopular.
00:08:46.000This is something that we're going to have to keep fighting on.
00:08:49.000That's so important, Congressman, that it's just dormant.
00:08:52.000And it's especially in these places like the Smithsonian, because these people get into these positions, they're like barnacles, and most people aren't thinking about who runs the Smithsonian, but they can just sort of Go quiet, wait for the administration to turn over, and then out come the pride flags again if they win in 28.
00:09:11.000And people need to understand the Smithsonian is basically, you need to think of it as an appendage of the academy.
00:09:18.000These are all academics that run these things.
00:09:21.000And so if you ever do anything to offend their sensibilities, I could see if you actually made real changes at the Smithsonian, they will all boycott instantly and say, the Smithsonian's been ruined.
00:11:31.000She'll go down the road of, you know, we don't, you know, I'm not going to make any kind of normative judgment about Mickey Mouse being racist or not.
00:11:39.000Whenever the entire Smithsonian institution makes moral judgments about our country and about all the perceived sins of the white man.
00:11:50.000In the people who have run this country.
00:11:51.000I mean, that is the Smithsonian Institution today.
00:11:55.000But, you know, it's again, it's another example of just how ridiculous this stuff is.
00:12:01.000I don't even know what it means to say that Mickey Mouse is rooted in blackface minstrelsy.
00:12:07.000I don't, you know, honestly, I don't even know where they got that from.
00:12:10.000I think to most normal people, Mickey Mouse is just a cartoon that people like to watch whenever they're five years old and is kind of an iconic American figure.
00:12:20.000But for them to turn that into and try to slander kind of an iconic and very wholesome, by the way.
00:12:27.000Part of American culture, I think, rubs most people the wrong way.
00:12:31.000And it just does not withstand any scrutiny at all.
00:12:35.000And I think that that's what I was trying to get there.
00:12:37.000I mean, if you're going to say Mickey Mouse is rooted in racism, then defend that.
00:12:42.000Explain to the American people why you think Mickey Mouse is racist.
00:12:46.000And by the way, I hope that Democrats embrace this stuff.
00:12:49.000Because if they do, we'll continue to win elections every single cycle.
00:13:38.000I mean, this feels beneath the office.
00:13:41.000I think, as an American that still has respect for office holders, I still say Mr. President, Mr. Vice President, even when Joe Biden was in office.
00:13:53.000This breaks my heart as an American to see how she's so debasing the office that she holds.
00:13:57.000Yeah, it really is sad whenever you take a step back from this.
00:14:01.000I mean, we're holding a hearing on political bias at the Smithsonian Institution, and the best that Jasmine Crockett has to say.
00:14:09.000Is that this is somehow a white pride rally, which is absolutely bizarre.
00:14:14.000I mean, if, you know, what we're saying is that you shouldn't have pictures of men in bondage gear in a history museum that's open to children.
00:14:24.000You know, the connection between that viewpoint and white pride is pretty far away from each other.
00:14:31.000But, you know, it will probably get more of that today at the DEI hearing.
00:14:35.000I mean, at some point, you know, the left genuinely doesn't have anything to respond to.
00:14:41.000They know that they can't go into a hearing.
00:14:43.000And argue that you should have extremely sexually explicit material in a children's museum because nobody's going to be on there.
00:14:52.000Normal people are going to be against that.
00:14:54.000They know that slandering Mickey Mouse or calling all polite people white supremacists is insane.
00:15:02.000So they kind of just fall back on Republicans holding a white pride rally.
00:15:08.000I mean, it doesn't really have to make any sense, but that's where they go.
00:15:11.000So one of the central promises, I think.
00:15:14.000If you could say the spiritual promises, it was around the campaign of President Trump in 2024 was this getting rid of DEI, extracting it from our institutions.
00:15:26.000So, what specifically is you hearing about today?
00:15:28.000And give yourselves in Washington a scorecard of how we're doing so far two years into this.
00:15:34.000Yeah, the hearing today is with the president of the American Bar Association.
00:15:39.000Now, the American Bar Association is relevant because they give, they set accreditation standards for law schools across the country, which means they have a lot of influence over one, what admissions looks like at law schools, and they've been using that influence to promote DEI, and then two, the type of curriculum that law schools promote.
00:15:58.000And they also, if you're going to be a member of the ABA, you have to be a part of a continuing education series.
00:16:03.000All of those things are infused with leftism, especially with DEI.
00:16:10.000And the reason that we're going after this.
00:16:13.000Is I believe that the president has done a phenomenal job of being very clear through executive order, legally saying that DEI racial discrimination is illegal in the United States, and they've been going after universities that are still engaging in racial quotas and racial admissions processes.
00:16:33.000But it goes back to the same concept that these racial quotas and affirmative action in DEI is something that is so ingrained.
00:16:44.000Into colleges and universities and into the ABA, that they're not just going to change that overnight.
00:16:49.000It's going to require constant pressure.
00:16:51.000And what we want to do is we want to expose the ABA, but I think that there are legislative solutions that we can propose after this hearing that can reduce the ABA's authority over law schools.
00:17:04.000And I think that's something we should pursue pretty aggressively as well.
00:17:08.000Yeah, it's a game of whack a mole because what you'll do, what they'll do is they'll change the name of their DEI.
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00:18:31.000We got Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action in studio.
00:18:36.000Very excited to have him in the Y Refi studio.
00:18:38.000So if any of you caught our election stream net last night, you'll understand just how intimately aware of the details Tyler has been as Andy Biggs had a historic win last night.
00:23:11.000He's the Maricopa County Recorder, who's super conservative, who's helped clean the voter rolls, do all those things, move Arizona in the right direction.
00:23:19.000He was running, and a lot of people were like, Ah, there's no way that he has any kind of chance.
00:23:23.000He was endorsed by Turning Point, he's the only guy that we endorsed for Corporation Commission.
00:23:27.000And it looks like he's on a very clear pathway to be the second winner.
00:23:36.000And so he's on his way, which means that all of our statewide candidates had a clean sweep.
00:23:42.000Warren Peterson running for AG, running against the incredibly politicized, terrible Chris Mays, who has done nothing but go after Trump, obviously.
00:24:09.000So they had to do alternate electors in case the lawsuits proved to be successful.
00:24:17.000The quick recap of that is 2020, they had screwed with elections so much.
00:24:23.000Nobody had any kind of faith following that.
00:24:25.000If you remember, there were about five or six states that, again, at 3 a.m., flipped from Trump to others, all within thousands of votes.
00:24:34.000So thousands of votes gave us Joe Biden.
00:24:37.000And, you know, Adrian Fontez, who is the Secretary of State that Alex Caldon is running against here, was at the tip of the spear of that because he was trying to send, force, send everybody a mail in ballot during COVID, which is illegal.
00:24:52.000So you have three highly, you know, verging on criminalistic, you know, type Democrats that are running in Arizona.
00:25:01.000You have Katie Hobbs, who's under investigation for corruption today for pay to play schemes.
00:25:06.000So she's used her office to, Profit her friends, friends number one, and she's under investigation by Chris Mays, who's the AG, who's attacking political opponents, including us, for obvious reasons.
00:25:20.000She would love for us, she would love for me to be in jail right now so that we couldn't run an election against her.
00:25:29.000And then third, you have Adrian Fontez, who's literally one of the most progressive voices for a secretary of state in America, trying to hijack Maricopa County.
00:25:42.000Got booted out of office by voters after one election because he did so many things to screw with the elections in Arizona that people naturally, organically removed him from office.
00:26:20.000And the big, I think, reveal last night with all of this is there was an ongoing question.
00:26:27.000We played these clips last night from Charlie talking about, you know, Andy Biggs is a known conservative, right?
00:26:32.000And the prevailing wisdom in the state of Arizona is that you needed to run a moderate in order to coalesce all the different, you know, wings of the Republican Party in this state.
00:26:50.000And that tells you everything to know about where we've come.
00:26:52.000And I think that it's worth emphasizing that because we've seen candidates who get the base very excited, but they can have an edge to them that'll make other people mad and you get a very disputed primary.
00:27:03.000Whereas Biggs, he gets the base excited and they were excited and he sweeps the victory by 60 points.
00:27:09.000Nobody's upset because he's a gentleman, he's a stand up guy, he's been in this state for decades, he's proven to I guess all different factions of the party that he is a man of integrity, that he is a conservative, that he means what he says.
00:27:35.000And people believe him when he says what he's going to do.
00:27:38.000So, this is a huge turning point, pun intended, for the state of Arizona because we've never seen the Republican Party this united around any single candidate.
00:27:48.000And I think that is a testament to Andy Biggs' campaign.
00:27:50.000That's a testament to Charlie and a testament to Turning Point Actions work in this state.
00:27:54.000And really, that's not just here in Arizona.
00:27:58.000Like, within the last 40 years, Andy Biggs did something historic yesterday, but this is true across the country.
00:28:04.000There is not a gubernatorial candidate that had more broad based support, I would argue, this election cycle that had a competitive primary against that person in any state.
00:28:15.000Like you look at deep red states with people, incumbent governors.
00:28:20.000I mean, you have incumbent governors that had real strong primary challenges.
00:30:06.000And Blake's pointed this out numerous times because the left started this entire war on redistricting, which started with Gavin Newsom, which is probably going to sink his political career because.
00:30:17.000If the Democrats lose the House this year, I think everyone's going to blame Gavin Newsom permanently, probably forever.
00:30:22.000It'll go in the history books that Gavin Newsom became kind of the patsy for them on this.
00:30:28.000But once California started redistricting, all these other states started redistricting.
00:30:32.000So basically, it eliminated swing districts in every other random state.
00:30:38.000Basically, swing districts in any state that is not currently itself a divided swing state, which Arizona is.
00:30:44.000And the reason for that is because, in The only thing that the only states are left that have swing districts are swing states themselves because the voter rolls are so close that there's no way for the right or the left to gerrymander their way out of it.
00:31:23.000Everyone kind of agrees that he's a great candidate.
00:31:27.000And then you have Juan Siskamani in CD6, who's also a great man, great dad, Hispanic heritage, great on the Mexico U.S. border, great Republican defending the board.
00:31:38.000He's one of the only Republicans that is a huge race, a border.
00:31:43.000Literally, this race, I've just had this feeling that the House is going to come down to this race.
00:31:48.000I don't know why I feel that way, but it really, really could.
00:31:51.000And that's kind of how things trended out for 2024, too, if you remember.
00:32:45.000That is probably, in my opinion, going to be the determiner.
00:32:49.000I think that's actually a bellwether race to watch.
00:32:54.000If we win that, I think we win Congress.
00:32:55.000If we lose that, I think we lose Congress.
00:32:58.000You then have other races in other swing states.
00:33:01.000So, Michigan, you have the son of the sheriff, Bouchard, who's running to replace John James, who's running for governor.
00:33:11.000And then you have a race that was watched very closely that we actually participated in last time in CD7 with Tom Barrett, who replaced Slotkin, who ended up winning.
00:33:23.000So, this was how crazy last election was.
00:33:26.000Trump wins Michigan, Slotkin wins Senate, and Slotkin's.
00:33:34.000The person that follows Slotkin, what do you call that?
00:33:48.000It's very interesting because right now, if the Democrats nominate DSA supported, socialist supported El Said, you have a real opportunity to see that.
00:34:01.000I mean, this will be the heart and soul of Michigan this time, which is do you elect a normie Republican, which.
00:34:09.000Michigan was kind of known for many decades, or do you nominate a socialist, a socialist backed candidate?
00:34:56.000We think that New Hampshire is one of the most underrated Senate races with Sununu.
00:35:00.000You have a congressional district that's there that's right on the cusp as well with Anthony DiLorenzo, who just got endorsed by the president, who's running for the same seat that Caroline ran for.
00:35:46.000Adam Laxalt barely lost, and Joe Lombardo barely won.
00:35:50.000And so this is really important for the future because, again, Nevada, Arizona, and Wisconsin are all on the same tracks with Senate races.
00:38:47.000Tell us, tell our viewers who was Anne Whitacombe, if I said that right, and what happened to her?
00:38:54.000What have we learned over the last few days?
00:38:57.000So, Anne Whitacombe has been a fixture of conservative politics in the UK for many decades, since the 1990s, in fact.
00:39:05.000She wasn't a particularly well known figure in recent years.
00:39:08.000She wasn't like highly visible as she was perhaps in the 2000s and 2010s, but she was still regularly on British TV.
00:39:15.000She would advance conservative positions.
00:39:17.000She was known for being a staunch, unwavering social conservative.
00:39:21.000She opposed things like gay marriage and abortion.
00:39:24.000And because of this, she was often a popular hate figure amongst liberal UK talking heads, our version of late night comedy shows, that sort of thing.
00:39:58.000She was alone in her home in the English countryside.
00:40:05.000And it's interesting, as you guys were talking about, how the police initially responded to it.
00:40:11.000They didn't initially suggest it was politically motivated, they suggested it might have been a robbery gone wrong.
00:40:19.000And the other thing they didn't do, which is very important, is they did not release the name of the suspect who has now been charged for many, many days.
00:40:28.000And now it appears like all of his social media has, if he had social media, it's gone like this.
00:40:43.000So what we now have learned, and correct me if I'm wrong, but this individual obviously went out of his way, traveled some distance to commit this murder.
00:40:54.000The weird part about it for me is that this first point you made, that she was sort of known as this staunch social conservative.
00:41:02.000Against gay marriage, against probably all the trans insanity.
00:41:07.000Do we have any indication yet that this is what animated her alleged killer here?
00:41:14.000Well, we certainly know a little bit about him.
00:41:16.000We know he had strong left wing sympathies.
00:41:18.000There was a video circulating on social media earlier today of him speaking at a communist meetup some years ago.
00:41:26.000And, you know, various far left literature was discovered at his house.
00:41:56.000That's terrifying, actually, because Nigel, as we know, is the leader of Reform, which is the largest right wing political movement in the UK.
00:42:06.000So this guy is almost fantasizing about his hit list, is what it would.
00:42:13.000And this goes to like another point that Nigel Farage has made is that he's had to pay for private security.
00:42:20.000And I believe the UK Home Office only recently offered to give up his security level because partly because of this murder, this murder of Anne Whitacombe, who was also, by the way, a reform spokeswoman.
00:42:34.000So she was part of Nigel Farage's party.
00:42:36.000There's been some speculation that Nigel Farage, that this person would have preferred to target Nigel Farage, but his Security was so good, so was too good, so that you know, Ann Widikham was sort of an easier target.
00:42:51.000And look, also, Ann Widikham is the sort of person you'd only really know about if you're like very plugged into politics, which this person certainly was.
00:43:00.000I'm just looking at the details in this case.
00:43:02.000Like, in addition to it being to pray, drove a very long distance, clearly was fixated on this person.
00:43:08.000The murder itself is horrifying, it's now coming out.
00:43:12.000Bludgeoned her to death 21 times in the head with a hammer.
00:43:27.000It just, I'm thinking of like the equivalent, it would be the equivalent of someone in America, Phyllis Schlafly.
00:43:32.000She died a while ago, but if, you know, when she was in her old age, if someone had driven across the country to break into her home and murder her.
00:43:40.000It reminds me of the White House Correspondents' Dinner where this guy was in California and he, what did he take a train and all this other stuff, like goes all the way across country to go and try and shoot up where the president is at in the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
00:43:53.000I mean, when you see that type of distance traveled.
00:43:56.000You know that there is a fixation on a particular target.
00:44:00.000You have to be motivated uniquely for this person.
00:44:04.000And I think, you know, Anne Whitacombe was one of these people that if you were like a far left, you know, a far left lunatic, she would be one of the people that you'll think of who would come to mind as like a one of the most right wing people in the country, perhaps.
00:44:21.000You know, Nigel Farage might be more prominent, but if you're like a true political obsessive, you know, she's someone you might have known about.
00:44:27.000And as you said, the distance he traveled.
00:44:30.000Clearly points to this being a targeted killing.
00:44:33.000And what he also said goes to the wider point, right?
00:44:35.000This is now a transatlantic international trend of political assassinations, three assassination attempts on the president, including during the campaign, the assassination of Charlie, of course, and so many other incidents of violence that we've been seeing in the United States, you know, attacks on ICE facilities as well, on government buildings.
00:44:59.000And now it's crossed over to the UK as well, it seems.
00:45:03.000And on top of that, what stands out to me, she's most known as a social conservative.
00:45:08.000Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but social conservatism isn't that strong in the UK.
00:45:12.000She opposed abortion, but you guys have liberal abortion laws that are not likely to change, even if reform were to win.
00:45:19.000You guys are not going to repeal gay marriage.
00:45:22.000Like, at least in the US, social conservatives have won elections recently, but she was an outlier.
00:45:28.000This guy fixated on and just murdered her.
00:45:31.000I just can't get over how horrible this is.
00:45:34.000And then the police dragging their feet to say.
00:45:38.000And I mean, candidly, when we talk about these connections to Charlie's case, you had Tyler Robinson go from southern Utah, drive all the way up to Orem.
00:47:52.000I describe myself as an Anglophile, actually.
00:47:53.000I mean, I can't stand England nowadays, but I love the British culture and I love the history of England that spread it all across the world.
00:48:26.000We already had that murder of that young man who was stabbed to death, Andy Novak and Henry Novak.
00:48:34.000And all of this, what's the overall situation?
00:48:36.000You guys have a new prime minister, Andy Burnham.
00:48:41.000Are we still, are we hopefully trending towards positive changes in Britain?
00:48:44.000My understanding, you can correct me if I'm wrong, is that Burnham is not going to correct the trajectory of Keir Starmer's fallen government.
00:48:52.000And he's already U turned on some of his proposals.
00:48:55.000He wanted to raise the Tax free income cap, and then he backed down on that, probably because of pressure from permanent bureaucrats at the Treasury.
00:49:06.000And he said he's going to scrap a digital ID scheme.
00:49:09.000He's not really going to scrap it, he's going to rename it.
00:49:12.000I think he's going to be very limited in what he can do.
00:49:15.000I'll tell you what concerns me this murder happened to a reform spokeswoman, a conservative, before, while reform is not even in government.
00:49:25.000There's no right wing party in government right now, it's the left wing Labour Party.
00:49:30.000I worry what might happen if reform actually does win the next election, how violent the response will be.
00:49:36.000We saw how the election of Donald Trump kicked off a wave of violence in the US with the attacks on ICE facilities, on Tesla, on the firebombings of Tesla stores, all of these things.
00:49:49.000It's interesting that we're already seeing violence directed against reform officials, reform spokespeople, when they're not even in government.
00:49:58.000So there's probably going to be at least two or three more years of Labour government in the UK.
00:50:04.000And I wonder how this will escalate if reform maintains its lead in the polls and wins the next election.
00:50:12.000And I know you guys live tragically in a totalitarian nation, the Brits.
00:50:18.000Is there anything that these lawmakers or these prospective reform in government people could appeal to to defend themselves?
00:50:28.000Can you get a gun if there is a chance someone will break into your home and try to kill you with a hammer?
00:50:33.000Can they obscure their address or something?
00:50:40.000Yeah, it's pretty difficult to buy a gun even for self defense in Britain.
00:50:44.000Farage obviously has security, but there are so many other people in reform and on the right who are like lower down the ranks and won't have that level of protection.
00:50:57.000But there's the level, the response to the killing as well is what's disturbing.
00:51:05.000So many people were celebrating it on social media.
00:51:08.000There was a very muted response in the press as well, partly because of that delay in the police confirming whether or not who the suspect was initially and what his potential political motivations might have been, or not confirming even initially that it was a premeditated murder.
00:51:27.000And this meant that there was a series of days that went by when the picture wasn't exactly clear.
00:51:34.000And that sort of gave the media and gave Left and Commonator the space to just ignore the story.
00:51:42.000And especially with the trend of violent attacks continuing in the US, we saw that attack on the ice facility in New York just a few days ago.
00:51:52.000You can see this trend continuing, unfortunately.
00:52:21.000We, so many Americans, we care about the fate of our mother country, the country that birthed so many of the liberties we value in America.
00:52:29.000But we can tell that the clock is ticking towards midnight to save this country because there's a lot of very bad people doing very bad things.
00:52:58.000For nearly 3,000 years, Homer's The Odyssey has shaped Western imagination.
00:53:03.000It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts, and impossible choices on his long journey home.
00:53:12.000As one of the foundational works of western literature, Homer's epic is more than a mythology.
00:53:18.000It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty, family, leadership, temptation, and the search for home.
00:53:25.000In one of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and difficult journey home.
00:53:34.000His decision reveals one of the central themes of the Odyssey, that a life of duty, family, and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort or glory.
00:54:40.000So, just as a starting point here, and then we're going to get into the meat of this, we're going to be talking about some of this evidence.
00:54:46.000And we're going to be talking about what Rob O'Neill has said publicly.
00:54:50.000He is a SEAL Team 6 that was involved in the shooting of Osama bin Laden.
00:54:56.000So, you know, we have a lot of respect for his service to our country.
00:55:16.000You know, I spent about 16 years in the military before I was medically retired, started off my career in the infantry, was Ranger qualified, was a sniper section leader in the infantry, and then went to the special forces selection and became a United States Army Green Beret.
00:55:29.000Got SF sniper qualified while I was there.
00:55:31.000I have roughly four years of combat until underneath my belt, missions against Al Qaeda, ISIS, the Taliban, Al Qaeda in Iraq, things like that.
00:55:42.000I've seen places like East Africa, Middle East, and Ukraine before people even knew where it existed.
00:55:49.000So you've got a pretty impressive resume there, and you understand ballistics, you understand explosives.
00:56:59.000This isn't fun for me, but I'm not going to just see something and have a bunch of people with no experience really killing people tell me that I'm wrong.
00:57:38.000All of those statements that he's making, minus that it looks off, but once you understand terminal ballistics, you start to understand what actually ended up happening after that.
00:57:48.000And going through military sniper courses, you get a lot on internal and external ballistics what the projectile is doing inside of the rifle once it leaves the rifle and it's flying through the air.
00:57:58.000But once it ends up going over and impacting your intended target, that's where things start to get a little bit wonky.
00:58:04.000And there is not a lot of information that's out there on it, but there is also a lot of information out there if you know where to look.
00:58:10.000Specifically, when it goes down to these types of rifle cartridges and what ended up happening when they impact flesh.
00:58:17.000So, Matt, let's dive into that because a lot of the weird theories, they've kind of taken two, I'd say, the core strands.
00:58:24.000People essentially claiming the bullet, the 30 odd six round, would not be capable, it would have to leave an exit wound.
00:58:32.000And so, therefore, the wound that killed Charlie could not come from that.
00:58:36.000And then also, people, again, they're fixating on t shirts and how it moves.
00:58:40.000To suggest, yeah, exploding microphones would do this.
00:58:44.000So, I guess that's what your post on X that we saw dove into.
00:58:49.000Can you dissect some of the science, the unfortunate grisly science here of why we can be confident that it was a bullet acting the way a bullet would that caused this all to happen?
00:59:21.000They're basically omnidirectional when they end up going off.
00:59:23.000And that little half gram of petan ends up exploding into a gaseous space of about 400 cubic inches instantaneously at over 8,000 meters a second.
00:59:32.000That means that little plastic microphone underneath his shirt would have instantly been gone long before anything ended up reaching his neck.
00:59:38.000It had blown a hole in his shirt, easily the size of that microphone.
00:59:41.000And there'd be clear signs, clear signs of some damage to his tissue.
01:00:44.000It doesn't use modern day bonding techniques.
01:00:46.000It's got a soft lead point and it's got a thin copper jacket that wraps around it.
01:00:50.000And the reason you have to have that thin copper jacket is because that lead would basically be disintegrated if you were just shooting it out at the barrel at the velocities that we shoot these things at.
01:00:58.000That thin copper jacket also helps create a seal.
01:01:00.000And it's actually, you know, if you were to take that projectile and measure it, it's actually slightly larger than the bore of the barrel.
01:01:05.000So it gets squeezed down that barrel and it slightly deforms it.
01:01:09.000And as it's being squeezed down that barrel and it slightly deforms it, you know, you have an issue that goes into the actual overall balance of the projectile itself.
01:01:18.000These elongated projectiles are very front heavy as opposed to back heavy.
01:01:22.000And no matter how much we'd like to, we can't perfectly balance these things out.
01:01:27.000So with the improper balance, along with it being squeezed out the barrel, You end up getting what's called yaw that happens when this projectile is flying through the air.
01:01:35.000That yaw causes it not to spin in a tight spiral like a football, but kind of to slightly wobble at the nose.
01:01:41.000And depending on where that wobbles at when it ends up impacting the target, that creates different effects in terminal ballistics.
01:01:49.000Now, this projectile itself is designed to essentially mushroom out, is the term people like to bring up.
01:01:54.000It's designed to mushroom out its soft point.
01:01:55.000And the reason they do that is so that they expand and it creates more drag.
01:01:59.000Soldiers whine a lot about the 556, the green tip, the Armor penetrating rounds that we have that were standard for the military for a very long time, just zipping right through guys.
01:02:10.000I've shot people with them and just watched them fall down and get right back up.
01:02:13.000The reason is because you're just punching holes in them, right?
01:02:15.000It's essentially taking an ice pick and going in there.
01:02:34.000So here we can see that copper jacket that is opened up.
01:02:38.000Now, with the study that was done back in the 1960s of over 5,000 casualties from World War II and from Korea, they ended up determining that yaw ends up being the most distinguishing factor in terminal ballistics overall.
01:02:51.000And within just three inches, all right, within just three inches of flesh, and this is using full metal jacket rounds, not ones that mushroom out and create more drag, within just three inches of flesh, it can actually tumble up to 90 degrees.
01:03:02.000So you have that very thin copper jacket as it's mushrooming out, and then it's just going to rip apart.
01:03:07.000And we're also talking about lead here.
01:03:28.000Once things start to heat up, they start to become a little bit more malleable, particularly lead and brass and copper.
01:03:33.000So when that stuff ends up hitting, all right, it's not hitting with the full strength as it would if you were just sitting there tapping it at room temperature.
01:03:39.000It's actually a little bit more malleable.
01:03:41.000All of that ends up creating that jacketed yaw that goes, that energy dissipation.
01:03:46.000That ended up taking place, that full stop within the neck, 100% is proven within this one photograph right here of how that went down.
01:03:53.000I just want to say to the audience, I'm sorry that we're talking about this candidly.
01:03:59.000We talked about it a lot during the preliminary hearing.
01:04:01.000It's an unfortunate thing that we have to do because there are, and again, I'm not trying to disrespect Rob O'Neill's service.
01:04:10.000I have a great respect for his service to the country.
01:04:24.000So we have to deal with the actual science and the facts.
01:04:27.000And we have to have responsible people like Matt, who know this inside and out and are experts on this topic, shed light on it and debunk this stuff as it comes up.
01:04:38.000The goal of a lot of people pushing this is they want Tyler Robinson to get off because they have all of this out there in the miasma and someone will get on the jury and be unconvincible.
01:06:10.000I reached out when I saw your analysis on bullet yaw and things like this, explaining the ballistics behind this and the science behind it.
01:06:21.000But you have done a brave thing, and I just want to thank you for that, genuinely.
01:06:25.000And I think it's so critically important.
01:06:27.000We've got this B roll from a guy named Valhalla, I guess, who's a.
01:06:49.000So I actually had a phone call with his name's Nate.
01:06:52.000So I actually had a phone call with Nate the other day and talked to him specifically about this.
01:06:55.000Nate's stance on this, contrary to how everybody likes to spin it, is he actually does think that there is a chance that it could have stomped in the neck, particularly after doing this.
01:07:04.000Now, this animal itself has been gutted.
01:07:08.000It was freshly killed, but it has been gutted within the neck.
01:07:11.000It's missing a lot of fluids, okay, that end up going in there.
01:07:15.000And it's also missing a lot of, how do you want to say, internal parts that would have normally been in there when he ended up shooting it.
01:07:22.000The one big takeaway that he ended up saying actually, in my opinion, goes to validate the paperwork that I actually ended up publishing, which shows within the first four inches.
01:07:31.000And you're going to hear this out of Nate's mouth, you know, at some point in this video, if you guys go watch it, within those first four inches.
01:07:36.000It actually ends up dissipating most of the energy within it.
01:07:39.000Now, that's without the fluid, and fluid dynamics is actually one of the most important things that goes into internal ballistics or, excuse me, terminal ballistics when it ends up striking the target.
01:07:50.000Now, the one thing that Rob O'Neill had stated was he didn't understand how Charlie's shirt could have puffed up like that.
01:07:56.000And I believe his exact statement was the vapor trail couldn't have possibly caused the shirt to puff up.
01:08:00.000But the clip that I ended up sending to you earlier with the timestamp does, in fact, show the air displacement from that projectile flying through the air.
01:08:08.000When it ends up striking that pig's neck, you will see it poof all over the grass over behind the pig.
01:09:22.000When you're getting shot at, and those bullets are flying pretty close to your body, you can feel them going past you, the air being moved.
01:09:30.000And so, what you're witnessing is that projectile goes and it impacts that neck, is that air is still moving and being pushed by that projectile up until the point of impact.
01:09:39.000Once it does so, it's still in motion, right?
01:09:42.000Again, we're arguing with laws of physics here, they are.
01:09:44.000Okay, that projectile still in motion, so is that air.
01:09:47.000It just doesn't magically stop when the projectile ends up impacting its intended target.
01:09:52.000So that air then goes and it hits and it flows almost like water around that neck.
01:09:57.000And what ends up happening, believe it or not, that air can actually compress as it's going around because it's hit a certain object and it's allowing it to flow around.
01:10:05.000And that air will actually continue to compress until it comes out the other side when it dissipates.
01:10:10.000And that's actually what happened with Charlie Kirk's shirt.
01:10:12.000So, yeah, again, I hate even, we're not going to obviously show any of those images, but that seems to be their central.
01:10:21.000So we know that air compresses, by the way.
01:10:25.000Anybody who's flown on an airplane knows that as an object's moving forward, it pushes the air out.
01:10:30.000That's what creates the pressure underneath the wings that gives a plane its lift, right?
01:12:14.000It went in his cheekbone and then it stopped within his head, and roughly estimating, you know, just a couple inches worth of penetration out of that.
01:12:21.000So 12 inches of ballistics yell, a couple inches of human flesh.