The Charlie Kirk Show - December 19, 2023


Eric Metaxas's Powerful Response to the "Christian Nationalist" Slur


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On today's show, we have a special guest, Eric Metaxas. He's the author of "Letters to the American Church," a book that takes a look at Christian nationalism and its role in the modern world.

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00:00:42.000 I found this guy, Eric Metaxas.
00:00:43.000 Oh, hello.
00:00:44.000 How are you?
00:00:45.000 Eric, look at that height differential.
00:00:47.000 Isn't that great?
00:00:48.000 I didn't used to be this tall.
00:00:51.000 You need Ron DeSantis' shoes.
00:00:51.000 Yeah.
00:00:53.000 Oh, that's just true.
00:00:56.000 Come on.
00:00:58.000 So, Eric, you are the author.
00:01:00.000 And you know, I don't be us.
00:01:02.000 You're the author of one of the most important books that has come out in the last decade, Letter to the American Church.
00:01:08.000 We haven't announced this yet.
00:01:09.000 Yeah.
00:01:10.000 Well, we sort of have, but TPUSA Faith, we're helping produce it, get it out for millions of Christians.
00:01:15.000 Tell our audience about the book because it's a great segue to what I want to talk to you about. 0.57
00:01:20.000 Well, first of all, Letter to the American Church is the antidote to the garbage Christian nationalism stuff you're hearing. 0.99
00:01:29.000 It is such foul garbage, you have to mock it. 0.99
00:01:33.000 But if you want the serious antidote to it, Letter to the American Church is my book. 0.98
00:01:37.000 I beg you to read it.
00:01:38.000 Shortest book I ever wrote.
00:01:40.000 We made it into a documentary film which is launching February 8th.
00:01:45.000 What is it about?
00:01:46.000 It's about the fact that God demands that his people take him and his values into every sphere, into the political sphere, into how you deal with your government, your culture, and everything.
00:02:00.000 So when you get these people who are saying Christians shouldn't be involved in politics, it is utterly unbiblical.
00:02:06.000 And of course, it's a joke.
00:02:08.000 It was Christians that abolished the slave trade through politics.
00:02:13.000 It was Christians living out their faith to abolish slavery.
00:02:17.000 Christians living out their faith who brought about the civil rights movement, which ended up as legislation which is political.
00:02:23.000 It was Christians getting involved against Roe v. Wade.
00:02:26.000 If you don't bring your faith into politics, you allow satanic ideas to rule and reign in your world, which, if you don't care if it hurts you, it's hurting other people.
00:02:37.000 So Christians must be involved.
00:02:39.000 And the only response they have is to call it a name.
00:02:42.000 They say, ooh, it's Christian nationalism.
00:02:45.000 You know who was a nationalist?
00:02:46.000 Adolf Hitler.
00:02:47.000 Yeah, well, Hitler's idea of a nation is different from George Washington's idea of a nation.
00:02:53.000 And shame and Michael Beschloss and all of the buffoons who are out there talking as though there's some comparison between loving America and saying Heil Hitler. 0.88
00:03:04.000 What a joke. 0.98
00:03:05.000 They need to be mocked and not taken seriously.
00:03:07.000 So I hope everyone understands, give it up for Eric, everybody, is that going into 2024, we see this with the Rob Reiner film in Russell Moore.
00:03:17.000 We see this with Tim Alberta, who is doing the media rounds out of nowhere.
00:03:22.000 He has this book all about this, and he gets like 10 minutes uninterrupted on Morning Joe.
00:03:27.000 And so this is obviously...
00:03:28.000 Morning Joe doesn't want to talk about his own adultery, so he'd rather talk to Tim Alberta.
00:03:33.000 Amongst other things that he's been accused of.
00:03:35.000 But there's obviously a war room where one of the things that they are trying to do is they're trying to set a narrative coming into 24 to weaken, maybe by five points, maybe by 10 points, Christian enthusiasm.
00:03:52.000 And they're doing it with allegedly highbrow Christian intellectuals.
00:03:57.000 So Russell Moore, you've met him before, right?
00:04:00.000 I think you still know him, right?
00:04:03.000 I embraced him and told him Merry Christmas at Mike Pence's Christmas party, which tells you how far I have come in a couple of years, right?
00:04:12.000 I want to tell you...
00:04:13.000 Sins are forgiven.
00:04:14.000 I know. 0.97
00:04:14.000 I mean, I want to tell you something. 0.97
00:04:16.000 These folks have revealed their true colors.
00:04:20.000 They are, let's just be real clear.
00:04:22.000 If you're a Christian, what they're saying is not biblical. 0.94
00:04:24.000 If it's not biblical, it's from the pit of hell, okay? 1.00
00:04:28.000 It's from the pit of hell.
00:04:30.000 The devil quoted scripture to Jesus.
00:04:32.000 You can quote scripture and twist scripture.
00:04:35.000 What they're doing is monstrous, and it's going to harm millions and millions of people. 0.99
00:04:40.000 So whenever somebody says Christian nationalism, laugh in their face and walk away. 1.00
00:04:45.000 Don't have a conversation about it.
00:04:47.000 And what they're really doing, everybody, is they're trying to call us Nazis.
00:04:50.000 Of course.
00:04:51.000 They don't have the chutzpah to do it. 0.92
00:04:53.000 Well, they don't even understand the history.
00:04:55.000 So when they hear Donald Trump, you know, use a certain word, they go, I think Hitler used the word the, and Donald Trump used the word the. 0.67
00:05:02.000 So that's, you know, he needs to be more careful because he's like Hitler. 0.59
00:05:06.000 Or they say, you know, Hitler had a dog. 0.71
00:05:07.000 Yeah.
00:05:08.000 And therefore.
00:05:09.000 Yeah.
00:05:10.000 Therefore, Biden is Hitler.
00:05:11.000 And guess what?
00:05:12.000 In that case, it's true.
00:05:13.000 You know, they had the same dog. 0.81
00:05:16.000 You know, Joe Biden and Hitler had the same thing. 0.83
00:05:16.000 It's unbelievable. 0.83
00:05:18.000 Stop it.
00:05:18.000 No, no, I don't know that.
00:05:22.000 The point is that they have no arguments.
00:05:25.000 The facts are against them.
00:05:27.000 Logic is against them.
00:05:28.000 So what do they do?
00:05:29.000 They immediately go to calling names.
00:05:32.000 They call you Christian nationalists.
00:05:34.000 I mean, they're constantly inventing terms.
00:05:36.000 I want to dive into this.
00:05:37.000 So Tim Alberta said something.
00:05:39.000 He said, our citizenship is not here on earth.
00:05:42.000 Our citizenship is in heaven.
00:05:43.000 Okay, beautiful. 0.94
00:05:44.000 How does a rank-and-file Christian respond when they hear that?
00:05:47.000 Don't like it.
00:05:47.000 I want to respond to that.
00:05:48.000 I want to respond.
00:05:50.000 That is Marxism brought into reading scripture.
00:05:54.000 Why?
00:05:55.000 You are not supposed to choose between citizenship in heaven and citizenship in America.
00:06:01.000 You're supposed to have both, right?
00:06:03.000 My citizenship in heaven strengthens my love of a godly country.
00:06:08.000 It makes me want to make the country even more godly, okay?
00:06:11.000 It's like this is when people would say, like, oh, you love your wife too much.
00:06:15.000 You have to love Jesus.
00:06:16.000 And he'd say, wait a minute, my love of Jesus makes me love my wife more.
00:06:20.000 My godly wife makes me love Jesus more. 0.94
00:06:22.000 The idea that you have to choose, they're saying it's a zero-sum game.
00:06:26.000 Your love of America lessens your love of God.
00:06:30.000 And that's a Marxist view.
00:06:32.000 But we are also called to do things while we're here.
00:06:36.000 Well, that's the whole point.
00:06:38.000 There are action items for us Christians.
00:06:40.000 I think that some of these pastors either miss it or they're too cowardly because they want to go on MSNBC like Tim Alberta and they don't say it.
00:06:47.000 Wait, hold on.
00:06:48.000 We're required to be really active while we're here.
00:06:51.000 Well, isn't that the point?
00:06:52.000 The point is, if you have citizenship in heaven, if you've been born again, if you love Jesus, it makes you want to work in this world for God's purposes, not to check out, not to go to your root cellar with the Slim Jims waiting for the rap.
00:07:06.000 But you think about it, what Tim Alberta is saying is the easy way out.
00:07:10.000 If you get on MSNBC as a Christian author, you're doing something wrong.
00:07:16.000 Well, there's no doubt about it. 0.76
00:07:16.000 At this point, if you get 10 minutes of favorable coverage on Morning Joe, look, you are way off base, man. 0.76
00:07:25.000 Russell Moore, David French, Phil Visher, all these guys, they will certainly not ever get any attention.
00:07:35.000 They're dying to be in the New York Times.
00:07:37.000 They're dying to be in the Atlantic.
00:07:38.000 You know, I used to be like that many years ago.
00:07:41.000 And I got to tell you, we've come to a point, you've got to be honest, these places are dead.
00:07:44.000 The New York Times, The Atlantic, MSNBC, CNN, they're dead.
00:07:49.000 You cannot take them seriously. 0.97
00:07:50.000 So, these sort of Christians who are trying to get attention there, they've turned their back on the actual gospel and the actual scriptures. 0.96
00:07:58.000 And there is a snobbery, though.
00:07:59.000 Oh, yeah, of course.
00:08:00.000 That where they look at us and they write in a way where they say we're not real Christians.
00:08:07.000 They have nothing else but to call us names, Charlie.
00:08:10.000 And listen, let's be honest.
00:08:11.000 They're scared to death.
00:08:12.000 They see that the lies have been exposed.
00:08:15.000 People across America are waking up to the lies that have been pushed and pushed and pushed.
00:08:20.000 They're scared to death.
00:08:21.000 So they're in absolute, you know, DEF CON 5 mode.
00:08:25.000 Throw names, use just whatever you can do.
00:08:29.000 They simply want to, let's be clear.
00:08:31.000 They want to shut down the voice of God.
00:08:33.000 They want to shut down the people of God.
00:08:35.000 They want to neutralize the church. 0.91
00:08:37.000 That, by the way, is precisely what Hitler did. 1.00
00:08:40.000 He succeeded in it. 0.99
00:08:41.000 And the reason I wrote Letter to the American Church, which we've made into a documentary, is to show the parallels. 0.70
00:08:47.000 The Nazis wanted to silence the church because they knew the church was the single threat to their power.
00:08:54.000 They knew that. 0.69
00:08:55.000 And they had to silence the church.
00:08:56.000 And these guys are like, you know, like collaborators, like the Vichy French, collaborating with the Church.
00:09:03.000 That's right.
00:09:03.000 The Vichy French.
00:09:04.000 But I want everyone to know this.
00:09:05.000 They would not be putting out this Rob Reiner, who, by the way, is an awful person with Russell Moore, who calls himself a Christian.
00:09:12.000 Can you imagine that they apostle Moore Russell Moore, who's supposed to be this theologian?
00:09:16.000 Yeah.
00:09:17.000 I am so disgusted by him. 1.00
00:09:18.000 And by the way, some people for years say, oh, Russell Moore, no, he's a disgusting person. 0.98
00:09:22.000 He's going with CNN and Rob Reiner.
00:09:25.000 What are they doing?
00:09:26.000 It's called desperation.
00:09:27.000 It's called wanting to be relevant.
00:09:29.000 That's the point.
00:09:30.000 They would not be doing this preemptive strike if they did not see that the church was the reason why 2024 is going to go in the proper direction. 0.90
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00:11:10.000 We are here with Eric Metaxas, author of Letter to the American Church.
00:11:13.000 The hype differential is hilarious.
00:11:15.000 So, Eric.
00:11:17.000 What?
00:11:18.000 You know, people don't know that you are freakishly tall.
00:11:20.000 Unpleasantly.
00:11:21.000 Am I freakishly tall?
00:11:23.000 I'm six foot one.
00:11:25.000 What are you?
00:11:26.000 It's weird. 0.71
00:11:27.000 If you're six foot one, you are weird.
00:11:29.000 You're a gentle giant.
00:11:30.000 Yeah, I'm part of the Nephilim.
00:11:32.000 So they know that the church is a threat. 0.71
00:11:36.000 They know that there's something ascendant in this country.
00:11:40.000 And they're trying to preemptively strike it.
00:11:42.000 They're trying to, there's other imagery I could use, but I don't want to.
00:11:46.000 They're trying to make sure it doesn't get out of the gate.
00:11:49.000 Because in 2024, if the church becomes 10 to 15% more motivated, they're done.
00:11:56.000 That's right.
00:11:56.000 That's the key, everybody.
00:11:57.000 If the church gets 10 to 15 percent more motivated, they're done.
00:12:01.000 It doesn't need to become 50 percent 10 to 15 percent. 0.68
00:12:05.000 But they're trying to say, oh, no, no, no, spooky, wacky, Christian nationalist. 0.96
00:12:09.000 Ooh, dictator. 0.97
00:12:10.000 No, look, it's just, it's a joke.
00:12:12.000 I think we have to be honest that the facts are on our side.
00:12:15.000 And they, not only don't they care about the facts, they have doubled down on evil.
00:12:21.000 They're willing to lie.
00:12:22.000 All they care about is power.
00:12:23.000 They don't care about preserving America on the founders model.
00:12:26.000 And so we have to understand we have to be wise as serpents in what we're dealing with.
00:12:31.000 They will lie.
00:12:32.000 They will cheat.
00:12:33.000 They will steal the election.
00:12:34.000 They will do anything they can.
00:12:36.000 If you're not wise to their tactics, you will lose.
00:12:40.000 And there are many in the American church who are not yet awakened.
00:12:43.000 And that's part of what we need to do.
00:12:45.000 I will say yes and no, Eric.
00:12:46.000 I agree with you.
00:12:47.000 But I think the rank and file are awakened.
00:12:50.000 Oh, the pastors are the ones that are not yet awakened.
00:12:53.000 Because I think the people are there.
00:12:56.000 Yeah.
00:12:57.000 No, I'm with someone.
00:12:57.000 I'm with their kids being trans.
00:12:59.000 We're going to have a young lady come up in the next segment where she goes to public school in Oregon and in high school and men watch her undress and there's nothing that they can do about it. 1.00
00:13:08.000 Men who say they are women go into the locker room and while she undresses, she's going to come up in the next segment. 1.00
00:13:13.000 And what is the local church doing about that?
00:13:15.000 Yeah.
00:13:16.000 What is the local church doing?
00:13:16.000 Well, that's the whole point.
00:13:18.000 This is what I say over and over.
00:13:19.000 People say, Eric, what can I do?
00:13:21.000 Here's the number one thing you can do.
00:13:24.000 If you are going to a church that is not awake to these issues, if you're going to a church where the pastor is timid on these issues, for the sake of your soul, get out of that church.
00:13:37.000 For the sake of your soul, take God's money out of that church and tell your friends to get out of that church.
00:13:43.000 Guys, we're changing our messaging a little bit.
00:13:46.000 For a couple years, we said, you know, challenge the pastor, challenge the elder board.
00:13:50.000 That window's closing.
00:13:52.000 That's correct.
00:13:53.000 That's correct.
00:13:54.000 If you guys did that and nothing has changed, you need to go rebuke that pastor and say, I warned you, I am going to now take as many people as possible, and this church might turn into a Denny's.
00:14:04.000 That's right.
00:14:04.000 I hope that doesn't happen.
00:14:06.000 But you will be responsible, and you're going to have to answer in front of an almighty God for being a secular pastor who doesn't care about church.
00:14:12.000 Okay, and that's exactly the parallel to Nazi Germany.
00:14:16.000 There was a window. 0.58
00:14:17.000 There was a small window.
00:14:18.000 Bonhoeffer was begging Christian leaders to stand up and to fight against the Nazis.
00:14:24.000 And they said, not yet, not yet.
00:14:25.000 We want to see which way the wind blows.
00:14:26.000 We're not ready.
00:14:27.000 When they finally figured out and said, oh, okay, we get it.
00:14:27.000 We're not ready.
00:14:31.000 It was too late.
00:14:32.000 And I want to be very clear.
00:14:33.000 That is exactly where we are in America today.
00:14:36.000 So the window is closing.
00:14:38.000 Starting in January, February, I never want to hear again, well, my pastor, we're working on him.
00:14:44.000 No.
00:14:44.000 No more working.
00:14:45.000 We've had the working on.
00:14:46.000 If your pastor doesn't get it now, after confrontation and meetings, you have to vote with your feet.
00:14:53.000 And, Charlie, reallocate your tithes, offerings, and your time.
00:14:55.000 And I want to be clear.
00:14:57.000 If you don't, you're under judgment.
00:15:00.000 It's not on your pastor.
00:15:01.000 It's on you.
00:15:02.000 It is on you. 0.71
00:15:03.000 God will judge you for singing while the trains are going to Auschwitz.
00:15:07.000 And I got to be honest, some people say, but the music is so good. 0.67
00:15:11.000 The music in hell will be even better.
00:15:15.000 I mean, can you imagine people say these things?
00:15:18.000 Oh, the music's good.
00:15:19.000 We've been going there for 30 years.
00:15:20.000 What about your eternal soul?
00:15:22.000 What about the people whose lives are being destroyed because you go to a church that doesn't address this stuff and is not in the battle?
00:15:29.000 Shame on you.
00:15:30.000 Shame on your pastor.
00:15:31.000 God is a judge.
00:15:32.000 Yes, and this is the opening in 2024.
00:15:35.000 We need to reward the good churches and the bad churches say, you know, have a nice day.
00:15:40.000 Letter to the American church is the book.
00:15:42.000 Yes.
00:15:42.000 People can see the trailer.
00:15:43.000 You can anticipate the success.
00:15:45.000 People can see the trailer at letter to the American Church.com.
00:15:48.000 Did I anticipate these success?
00:15:50.000 Frankly, no, Charlie.
00:15:51.000 But I'll tell you what.
00:15:52.000 We don't have time, but I will simply say, I know, I know God called me to write the book.
00:15:57.000 I don't say that kind of thing lightly.
00:15:59.000 And when God calls you to do something, he has a purpose.
00:16:02.000 Since the book came out, I have been staggered at the response.
00:16:05.000 Everywhere I go, people say, I bought 12 copies to give to every pastor in my area.
00:16:10.000 I'm telling you, something is happening.
00:16:11.000 I never anticipated it would be turned into a film.
00:16:13.000 Thanks to you and others, it is now.
00:16:15.000 Keep the USA Faith as producing the movie.
00:16:17.000 Keep the USA Faith.
00:16:17.000 We're really good at it.
00:16:18.000 Amen.
00:16:19.000 Eric, you're really special.
00:16:20.000 I give you a hard time.
00:16:22.000 But Eric is really, really moving the dial for liberty and for the kingdom.
00:16:26.000 And I think we've known each other for a long time.
00:16:28.000 And we always appear at all these different events together.
00:16:31.000 God is really building this remnant.
00:16:34.000 Amen.
00:16:34.000 And the enemy is broadcasting their plans.
00:16:37.000 They're nervous that the church is going to tip the scales in 2024.
00:16:42.000 So it's time for us to play offense.
00:16:43.000 God bless you, Eric.
00:16:44.000 Thank you so much.
00:16:44.000 Thank you.
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00:18:10.000 Oh, it's out of control.
00:18:12.000 It's making an incredible impact.
00:18:14.000 So I'm blessed that God has given me that opportunity.
00:18:16.000 But I tell you what, three hours of radio is a lot of work.
00:18:19.000 So when y'all listen to me, I'm working hard to make that happen.
00:18:22.000 Yeah, it's more than I think people realize because when you get done with one day of three-hour radio, you got to do another day of three-hour radio.
00:18:28.000 It's a ton.
00:18:29.000 So, Brandon, lots to talk about here.
00:18:30.000 We're honored now that Blexit and Turning Point USA are back together.
00:18:33.000 The Blexit team is doing amazing.
00:18:34.000 I mean, the energy, the passion, the spirit.
00:18:37.000 Kind of walk our audience through the vision of Blexit.
00:18:40.000 I see such amazing things happening.
00:18:42.000 Yeah, we started Blexit a while back, me and Candace Owens, 2018.
00:18:46.000 One of the biggest decisions or the best decision we made is to partner with Turning Point USA.
00:18:50.000 We have just exploded in the last year, and our vision is to change the mentality of a culture of people. 0.88
00:18:57.000 And it's not just black people, it's all minorities and anybody who wants to participate.
00:19:02.000 But we want to change the narrative by educating.
00:19:05.000 We don't want to force you to vote for a certain person or think a certain way.
00:19:09.000 We just want to open up people's understanding to be educated with the truth and allow them to make the decision on their own.
00:19:15.000 We want to expand it all across America and be able to see a significant change in American culture.
00:19:21.000 I see a huge opportunity here.
00:19:23.000 When I meet young black students, they actually are more open-minded than I would say young female white liberals.
00:19:30.000 Would you say that to be true?
00:19:32.000 I mean, they're open to at least this idea of the trans thing being a cancer, the pro-life message that the black community has not necessarily improved through left-wing policies and ideas. 0.98
00:19:43.000 Are you seeing similar things? 0.73
00:19:44.000 100%, but I think it's easy pickings to a certain degree because growing up black in America, most of us go to church.
00:19:52.000 When I was growing up in Texas, we played football and went to church.
00:19:55.000 And with the biblical worldview, it's easy to tap back into it.
00:20:00.000 Sometimes we get allured by political foolery, leftist lunacy. 0.83
00:20:05.000 But when you start going back to the root of what the foundation is, going back to your church roots, what your parents have taught you all these years, black people are inherently more conservative. 0.88
00:20:15.000 It opens your mind up and people are more susceptible to listen to. 0.72
00:20:19.000 What do you think that Donald Trump needs to do to do better with black voters and/or improve his margins?
00:20:28.000 Well, let me say this.
00:20:29.000 I know people may be mad at me.
00:20:31.000 I think a lot of things that he already does is incredible.
00:20:34.000 What he's done as the president was incredible.
00:20:36.000 I do think that Donald Trump, if he can just focus on the message of truth and leave out criticizing some of these black people, I think it'll help.
00:20:45.000 And let me say this: LeBron James, let me talk crazy about LeBron James.
00:20:50.000 Because I'll dog him out 24 hours a day.
00:20:53.000 But I think with Donald Trump, he doesn't have to get into that dogfight because at the end of the day, he really wants more people to understand him and listen to him.
00:21:01.000 You start talking about the beloved Cardi B and all these other people that somehow have a stronghold of influence, it turns people off to a certain degree.
00:21:09.000 So let people like me and others do the talking, and I want him to stand up and just continue to tell the truth so he can be more received.
00:21:17.000 There is a prediction from the New York Times says that we're headed for a sizable realignment in how non-white voters cast their ballots. 0.59
00:21:26.000 Do you think that's going to materialize?
00:21:28.000 A thousand percent, man.
00:21:29.000 I don't know a single person that is looking at the economy right now and saying, look, this is the best time of my life.
00:21:34.000 My 401k is doing good.
00:21:36.000 I'm excited about these interest rates.
00:21:38.000 There's nobody in the world that thinks like that.
00:21:40.000 Nobody, Charlie.
00:21:42.000 And I know a few that voted for Biden last time.
00:21:44.000 Not one person is enthusiastic at all about supporting Biden.
00:21:49.000 And this includes people in my family.
00:21:50.000 I was just at an event.
00:21:51.000 I had my son's birthday party, went home.
00:21:53.000 All my uncles are there, and it was hilarious.
00:21:56.000 They said, I never vote for Joe Biden again, never vote for a Democrat again.
00:22:00.000 And the reason is because they can see the proof in the pudding.
00:22:03.000 This man has done a work on our country, and America can see it.
00:22:07.000 They can't push the rhetoric of Donald Trump anymore and say he's a racist because now that they're in power, we can see what their true colors are.
00:22:15.000 So, kind of diving into that, the trans issue. 0.70
00:22:21.000 Is the trans issue something that can open black voters' eyes?
00:22:25.000 It seems to be deeply unpopular in black America. 0.93
00:22:28.000 I'm hoping that it will. 1.00
00:22:30.000 Like I said, my uncle was an example of this. 1.00
00:22:33.000 They had to do some trans training at the job, and he was infuriated because there's nobody trans on the job. 1.00
00:22:39.000 So I think that this is an opportunity for all of America to see how crazy, ignorant, and foolish these people are. 0.99
00:22:47.000 There is no way whatsoever that we should be having conversations about a biological man participating in women's sports. 1.00
00:22:54.000 It's unacceptable. 0.98
00:22:55.000 I don't care if you're black, white, green, or orange. 1.00
00:22:57.000 It is complete foolery. 0.62
00:22:59.000 And I'm hoping that America stands up and realizes the Marxist agenda of the left. 0.52
00:23:04.000 Yeah, so we're going to have a young lady on the program. 1.00
00:23:07.000 I keep teasing it.
00:23:08.000 She's a turning point USA chapter leader, and she has to, she goes into a locker room, and men just, you know, are allowed in. 1.00
00:23:16.000 That's crazy.
00:23:17.000 And no one does anything, right?
00:23:18.000 She's right here.
00:23:19.000 She'll tell you the story in a second in Oregon.
00:23:21.000 Parents don't do anything.
00:23:22.000 School board doesn't do anything.
00:23:24.000 Teachers don't do anything. 0.98
00:23:25.000 And these girls are, and by the way, they have their phones out recording them. 1.00
00:23:28.000 No one does anything.
00:23:29.000 And the men just watch the girls undress: 12, 13, 14, 15, 16-year-old girls.
00:23:34.000 Brandon, how should we handle that?
00:23:38.000 Well, I can't tell you how I want to handle it without going to jail.
00:23:42.000 But I will say, I will say that the fathers, I look at the listen, y'all, there is no way whatsoever that I would allow a man to go in a locker room with my daughter, not over my dead body.
00:23:57.000 I totally agree.
00:23:58.000 Like, why are we putting up with this?
00:24:00.000 I don't understand.
00:24:01.000 It's like enough school board meetings.
00:24:03.000 It's time.
00:24:04.000 We're trying to do something else.
00:24:05.000 It's time to do something else.
00:24:07.000 And I'm not asking for anybody to be violent.
00:24:09.000 I'm against the violence unless it's absolutely necessary.
00:24:11.000 But in this case, I don't think it's necessary.
00:24:13.000 Just take a dog on stand. 0.61
00:24:15.000 It's nothing wrong with you standing in front of that locker room, standing in front of that bathroom, and saying, you're not coming in here if you a biological school. 0.83
00:24:23.000 Honestly, if a thousand men from that community just sat in front of the school, be like, oh, school's closed today.
00:24:29.000 School's closed.
00:24:30.000 Yeah, if 10 men did that, like, no, school's closed.
00:24:32.000 And by the way, like, no, no, you're not allowed in the school.
00:24:35.000 What's going to happen?
00:24:36.000 They're going to arrest all a thousand men in the community?
00:24:37.000 Not doing it.
00:24:39.000 A thousand high-tee men?
00:24:40.000 But no, they're like, oh, well, let's go write letters to our school board.
00:24:44.000 Like, you are a beta male, honestly.
00:24:46.000 Right.
00:24:46.000 Like, you should.
00:24:48.000 See, look, the left goes out and they cry and they scream.
00:24:51.000 I think we had somebody here the other day screaming on the escalator.
00:24:55.000 When are we going to finally take a stand and say enough is enough?
00:24:59.000 Do y'all really want us to get active?
00:25:02.000 I think that we should.
00:25:03.000 And it doesn't have to be violent.
00:25:05.000 Just take a stand.
00:25:06.000 You know, if my daughter was on the podium, I'll tell her, get down off the podium.
00:25:11.000 You're not standing next to and glorifying and supporting mental illness and a man cheating you out of your victory.
00:25:18.000 It's not happening.
00:25:21.000 I hear these stories.
00:25:22.000 You know, someone emailed me recently.
00:25:23.000 I said, yeah, you know, my daughter is a really good soccer player, and she had to play against two men.
00:25:30.000 And how should I handle this?
00:25:32.000 And I got really angry.
00:25:34.000 I said, are you a man?
00:25:37.000 And he's like, well, how dare you say that?
00:25:39.000 Why don't you just march on the field?
00:25:40.000 Like, you're not playing. 0.99
00:25:41.000 And you're a freak and you're a freak and you guys are supporting freaks. 1.00
00:25:44.000 This is female soccer. 1.00
00:25:45.000 Like, what?
00:25:47.000 I don't understand why we won't take a stand.
00:25:49.000 Now, look, I don't think that. 0.99
00:25:51.000 I think it's because we're a nation of cowards and low-T men and beta males that just put up with these deranged lunatics that call themselves trans. 0.99
00:26:00.000 Well, I will say this, Charlie. 0.98
00:26:01.000 I think that when you look at the totality of people, not everybody has the strength and courage to do it, but the men who do need to step up and the rest will follow.
00:26:12.000 It's just like you and I and Candace and others.
00:26:15.000 It took us young people to stand up and make a stand.
00:26:19.000 And now you see there's thousands of people that have the courage to stand up just like we do.
00:26:24.000 So, Brennan, we're going to bring her on.
00:26:25.000 I want you to hear this story.
00:26:26.000 I think it's going to be really powerful here.
00:26:28.000 Give it up for Maddie, everybody.
00:26:30.000 This is great.
00:26:33.000 So, Brandon, stay here.
00:26:34.000 So, Maddie, thank you for your courage, by the way.
00:26:38.000 So, you're in high school, right?
00:26:39.000 Yeah, I go to Cambie High School in Cambie, Oregon.
00:26:41.000 So, you say that men are allowed in your locker room, and you've had to undress in front of men. 0.73
00:26:46.000 Is that correct?
00:26:47.000 Yes.
00:26:48.000 We at Cambie High School in Oregon, there was a Title IX law that I'm sure that has been talked about and whatnot.
00:26:56.000 But we have tried, we've talked, I've spoke at board meetings and whatnot.
00:27:01.000 You go in the locker room, and there's a guy sitting there in sweatpants and a hoodie with a hood on, just watching girls change, not changing himself, just walking around with his cell phone, doing God knows what, but just walking around, just watching people change.
00:27:15.000 And it's really uncomfortable.
00:27:16.000 Many girls were so sad and so uncomfortable by it.
00:27:20.000 And I was the only one who was really comfortable speaking out and putting my name out there.
00:27:25.000 I mean, I'm kind of speechless.
00:27:27.000 Like, I mean, so, can I ask how old you are?
00:27:30.000 I'm 16.
00:27:31.000 So, you're 16 years old, and you speak at these school boards. 0.93
00:27:34.000 Is there a female teacher that has actually talked to my, so there's a female teacher that needs to stay inside the PE locker room with us. 1.00
00:27:43.000 And I asked her, I was like, all of these girls in here are feeling so uncomfortable.
00:27:47.000 And you know what she said?
00:27:48.000 She said, you know, because of the Title IX law, we can't do anything about it.
00:27:51.000 If you feel uncomfortable, you don't need a change in hair.
00:27:54.000 So you can go to run a mile in your jeans that you wear to school.
00:27:57.000 And if you feel so uncomfortable, you can go change in a bathroom stall at that point.
00:28:02.000 And it's so...
00:28:03.000 Brandon, what's your reaction to this?
00:28:05.000 I think we need to go to that school.
00:28:07.000 Charlie, you and I, I know there's men in the community, and we need to go take a stand.
00:28:14.000 I totally agree.
00:28:16.000 I mean, if this is not, I mean, like, all the people say, oh, Civil Rights Act, energy, and all this. 0.68
00:28:22.000 Like, I'm sorry that biological men in hoodies watching like minor girls, by the way. 0.57
00:28:28.000 These are minor girls trying to change. 1.00
00:28:31.000 This could be trauma for the rest of the year.
00:28:33.000 By the way, the left is so big into trauma.
00:28:35.000 Like, this is actually trauma.
00:28:37.000 Yeah.
00:28:38.000 I've had, there's been only a select couple of parents.
00:28:41.000 There's only been like a couple parents.
00:28:42.000 We had one submit a story to a really famous talk show host.
00:28:47.000 And even after that, nothing happened.
00:28:49.000 We had one, that was it.
00:28:50.000 Just a couple parents sit down with a principal.
00:28:52.000 But I was the only one that took a stance at the board meeting besides my advisor for Turning Point.
00:28:57.000 I just want everyone to like, this is why Turning Point matters so much. 0.97
00:29:00.000 And I'm not here to insult anybody, but the adult generation in some communities are a bunch of cowards.
00:29:07.000 And kids are the ones that are now stepping up to fight back against this. 0.95
00:29:10.000 It shouldn't have to be that way.
00:29:12.000 And I know there's a lot of great, passionate, and patriotic adults, but a 16-year-old has to say, yeah, I don't want to have to change in front of men.
00:29:21.000 And she said something so important.
00:29:23.000 And we're going to be, if there is a focus of some of our programming, the Civil Rights Act that we worship as conservatives has done so much damage to this country in a way that you don't understand. 0.73
00:29:35.000 They're now using Title IX as a way to allow biological men in locker rooms to watch 16-year-olds undressed. 0.61
00:29:42.000 Brandon, the children.
00:29:43.000 I'll just say, y'all need to give this young lady a round of applause because it takes courage.
00:29:49.000 You know, you have to stand up for yourself and do not stop.
00:29:53.000 You got all these people that support you.
00:29:54.000 And Charlie and I, we may have to try to arrange this.
00:29:57.000 We're going to come down there and we'll make a difference in that school.
00:30:00.000 I really appreciate that.
00:30:02.000 It is, yeah.
00:30:02.000 Get Victor Marshall to come, right?
00:30:04.000 Oh, oh, that's a great idea, Caleb.
00:30:06.000 Oh, they're in trouble with Victor Com.
00:30:08.000 Oh, yeah.
00:30:08.000 By the way, and I see Sam Sorbo here.
00:30:10.000 I just, there's so many great patriots out there.
00:30:14.000 If we can't say that biological men are not allowed to stare at teenage girls dressing, then the civilization is dead. 0.88
00:30:21.000 This is the line, everybody. 0.53
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00:31:24.000 We got Officer Katum Maddie, who is a Turning Point USA leader.
00:31:28.000 That is what Turning Point is all about, everybody.
00:31:30.000 That is what Turning Point's all about.
00:31:31.000 And Sam Sorbo, Sam, you said something interesting.
00:31:34.000 Tell us about it.
00:31:35.000 Yeah, I think that the reason that we have so many fathers who refuse to stand up for their daughters is because they went to school, and school is emasculating for young men.
00:31:45.000 The whole system emasculates young men.
00:31:48.000 So they are taught to sit quietly at their seats, don't talk out of turn. 0.59
00:31:54.000 They have to raise their hand.
00:31:55.000 They have to ask permission to even ask a question.
00:31:58.000 They're just standing on the sidelines waiting to be told that they have permission to speak on behalf of their daughters.
00:32:05.000 And meanwhile, their daughters are being abused in the system.
00:32:09.000 And parents, I want to tell you, raise your kids so that they won't put up with some guy sitting in your locker room watching you change with his cell phone handy.
00:32:18.000 Like, no way, no how.
00:32:20.000 That's absurd.
00:32:22.000 So, Maddie, you are fighting.
00:32:23.000 You're called names.
00:32:24.000 They call you transphobic.
00:32:26.000 You've had biological men watch you undress in the locker room and your colleagues.
00:32:31.000 Do you feel as if you say, where are the adults fighting along?
00:32:35.000 Certainly, I've talked to many.
00:32:36.000 I've talked to the PE rep who was supposed to be in there to facilitate us in the locker rooms.
00:32:42.000 I've talked to the principal.
00:32:43.000 I talked to the vice principals.
00:32:45.000 I've talked to the superintendent.
00:32:47.000 And even then, I sent emails.
00:32:48.000 I have emails back and forth.
00:32:49.000 I have the video of me speaking at that board meeting.
00:32:51.000 And to this day, nothing has been done.
00:32:54.000 They made me false promises saying that they're going to renovate the bathroom, so everybody has to do stalls.
00:32:59.000 Yeah, and I'll be honest, I don't think you should take renovation as a win. 0.95
00:33:02.000 The only win is that biological man goes back into the male's locker room. 0.98
00:33:07.000 And by the way, this is why the tyranny of the radical minority has to be stopped. 0.59
00:33:12.000 Feelings do not matter.
00:33:14.000 Your own mental delusion does not matter. 1.00
00:33:16.000 So can anybody in the trans world answer me this? 0.90
00:33:19.000 Why can't that biological man still have the opinions of himself that he has and still change in the male locker room? 0.92
00:33:28.000 The answer is because it's not enough.
00:33:30.000 It's about conquering.
00:33:32.000 It's about imposition.
00:33:34.000 It's about making you submit.
00:33:36.000 It's not about somebody's feelings.
00:33:39.000 And understand you're submitting to a lie.
00:33:41.000 That is the agenda, is to get you to submit to a lie.
00:33:44.000 But here's the thing.
00:33:46.000 If you are trusting an institution that purports to educate your children, that is willing to lie to your children, that is no longer an institution of education.
00:33:53.000 Full stop.
00:33:54.000 We should change the name of the Department of Education to the Department of Schooling because they are no longer engaged in education.
00:34:00.000 And frankly, I don't know how you can call somebody's education an education if it ignores the most important book to humanity.
00:34:08.000 Brandon, just kind of generally here, we talk about the masculine part of this.
00:34:12.000 This is not going to change unless we do something about it.
00:34:15.000 It is getting wildly out of control. 0.83
00:34:17.000 We know in Loudoun County, a trans individual raped girls repeatedly, you know, twice after getting relocated. 0.87
00:34:23.000 But I don't even want to talk about that example. 0.85
00:34:25.000 It is traumatic for a young woman.
00:34:27.000 Again, the left is all about feelings and protecting women and all this, that you have to sit there and undress while some perv looks at you.
00:34:35.000 This is where we're at in the name of progress.
00:34:38.000 Right, and I have to point out, you know, Rhonda Santis in Florida has done an incredible job putting an end to this stuff and not allowing them to have children or having grown men going to the locker rooms of children. 1.00
00:34:51.000 I think that this should be spread across the country.
00:34:53.000 We should look at the examples of politicians who've done it the right way.
00:34:57.000 And I'll say this again.
00:34:58.000 We said this a thousand times here.
00:35:00.000 Men look in the mirror and say, well, what am I going to do about this?
00:35:03.000 You have the power to change this.
00:35:06.000 The founding fathers of this country were men who stood on principle enough to die for it.
00:35:12.000 And so we have to put a stop to this immediately because if we don't, we're going to have to be put in a position to do something extreme.
00:35:20.000 We can mitigate it today by taking the short victories and saying, look, my daughter will not participate.
00:35:26.000 We will not accept this.
00:35:27.000 There will be no renovations in a bathroom. 1.00
00:35:30.000 If you are trans and you're questioning, you are the outlier. 1.00
00:35:35.000 Maybe you should use the restroom at home. 0.97
00:35:37.000 Maybe they should do something different about what you need to do and not do, I would say, not harm or hurt young women who are just trying to exist as women.
00:35:47.000 Let me just say this real quick.
00:35:48.000 This is crazy to me. 0.92
00:35:50.000 What did trans people do a thousand years ago if they somehow existed?
00:35:55.000 They didn't have hormones. 0.98
00:35:56.000 They didn't have any of this stuff.
00:35:58.000 What did they do?
00:35:59.000 Was it just a man with a delusion?
00:36:01.000 This is brainwashing.
00:36:03.000 They did not do any of these things.
00:36:05.000 There was probably a very minimal amount of trans people that existed.
00:36:08.000 Now they're flourishing everywhere.
00:36:10.000 Now they are confused.
00:36:12.000 Young men are emasculated. 0.51
00:36:13.000 Being gay isn't enough anymore. 0.97
00:36:15.000 They got to transition to being women. 1.00
00:36:17.000 We got to speak out against this. 1.00
00:36:19.000 And it starts at home raising your children.
00:36:22.000 It's easy to point the finger at somebody else, but make sure that you're raising your young men to be men.
00:36:27.000 It's okay to raise your young men to be masculine.
00:36:31.000 It's okay for your young boys to wrestle and fight. 0.99
00:36:35.000 Stop raising chumps.
00:36:38.000 But Brandon, you know, they take boys at the age of four and five and they make them sit quietly in a classroom. 0.94
00:36:44.000 And if they don't sit quietly in a classroom, they drug them.
00:36:46.000 That's right. 0.76
00:36:46.000 Well, and they're poisoning our men, by the way, with the food, with weed, with porn. 0.76
00:36:53.000 With porn, with alcohol.
00:36:54.000 Testosterone rates are down 75%.
00:36:56.000 That's why I'm talking about final thoughts.
00:36:58.000 You're going to keep fighting.
00:37:00.000 Oh, of course.
00:37:00.000 I won't go down for nothing.
00:37:02.000 I've had three officers leave because of harassment, and I'm not going anywhere.
00:37:08.000 She is 16 years old, fighting for all of us, everybody.
00:37:12.000 That's what Turning Point USA is all about.
00:37:14.000 Sam, thank you.
00:37:15.000 Brandon, thank you.
00:37:16.000 And Maddie, we have your back 100%, okay?
00:37:18.000 Keep fighting.
00:37:19.000 We might just come to that school.
00:37:20.000 And right, Brandon?
00:37:22.000 Yes, that's right.
00:37:22.000 We're going to show up and show out.
00:37:24.000 We will not put up with perv men looking at females in the locker room. 0.99
00:37:30.000 This is disgusting. 0.99
00:37:30.000 All right. 0.99
00:37:31.000 Thank you guys so much.
00:37:32.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:37:33.000 Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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