00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, Dr. Ladapo from Florida, the Florida Surgeon General and Jack Pasobic joins us to talk about Steve Bannon.
00:00:09.000Also, what is the latest study about the efficacy of the vaccine?
00:00:12.000Florida Surgeon General has a lot of thoughts for us.
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00:01:49.000I mean, Charlie, the only thing that I have a problem with is the fact that this thing only drops once a week because episode four was such a barn burner.
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00:02:51.000So, Jack, I want to ask you: you know, you talked, you kind of tweeted this out here.
00:02:56.000Biden admitted publicly he was coercing Saudi Arabia to lower oil prices before midterms by threatening them with consequences, and Republicans gave him a pass.
00:03:07.000Well, so here's the thing, right, Charlie?
00:03:09.000The last time I was on this program, on your program, and you were one of the few people that brought this up and really gave it the attention it did.
00:03:15.000Obviously, on Human Events, we did as well.
00:03:16.000On Bannon, we did as well, on War Room.
00:03:19.000But I noticed that with this issue, right, the fact that, and by the way, we just saw last night, as a matter of fact, this kind of prompted me on this, that Biden has announced yet again, another 15 million barrels from our strategic oil reserve are going to be released prior to midterms.
00:03:37.000That he's literally stealing away the reserve of the American people.
00:03:42.000He's stealing away all of this, encountering and going into co-quid pro quos with the Saudis, with OPEC, with everybody else.
00:03:49.000Meanwhile, by the way, OPEC is coming out saying it's not just the Saudis, it's all of us.
00:04:09.000I haven't seen this gaining the traction that it really needs.
00:04:13.000And maybe it's because it's one of those things where they think, oh, you know, maybe the voters don't understand.
00:04:17.000Maybe they don't understand what the strategic oil reserve is.
00:04:20.000Maybe they don't understand what the importance of this is.
00:04:22.000No, I think voters are actually smart, right?
00:04:25.000And it may be, you know, Rush had that great line about low-information voters, which is true, but he also pointed out voters aren't stupid.
00:05:55.000Now they're going after the other Trump chairman from 2016 to lock him up when, at a strategic point in the midterm elections, the Friday of October, was it the 20th?
00:06:10.000They want to go after him going right into midterms to shut him up and silence him.
00:06:16.000But also, as a point, not only for this election, but also the 24 election, because they're reminding people: if you work for Donald Trump, we will go after you.
00:06:38.000On one hand, you've got the Danchenko trial going on right now, and it's exposing all of the lies and the corruption at the Department of Justice.
00:06:47.000But then on the other hand, you've got the same Department of Justice that's going to be locking up Steve Bannon this Friday and calling for him to be jailed for a period of six months.
00:06:58.000Now, Steve's lawyers have come back, and the latest on that is their response is: he deserves probation.
00:07:18.000They've asked for potentially home arrest.
00:07:20.000But at the same time, you're hearing the party largely silent on this thing.
00:07:24.000And I think when we see a fellow conservative leader who's being attacked like this, who's being shot down like this, and that's what it is, that we all need to be outspoken.
00:07:34.000And I hope that this Friday, that there are people in the streets with signs chanting peacefully, right?
00:07:41.000Peacefully and patriotically that they support the freedom of speech of Stephen K. Banner.
00:08:11.000And I mean, Steve has an amazing platform and an amazing audience, and he speaks and really is helping a lot of these Republicans actually to hold on to their seats, ironically.
00:08:22.000I really hope that people start to wake up sometime soon to what's going on with the kind of ever-growing Leviathan police state in our country.
00:08:30.000And it's not just Steve, but it's expanding beyond this.
00:08:32.000And Jack, there's still people that are in January 6th, solitary confinement to this day, still people that are in pre-trial detention.
00:10:12.000This is how, this is the two sides, right, Charlie?
00:10:14.000When one side says, we will change America and we will break every rule in order to do so.
00:10:20.000And the other side says, hey, we just want to be left alone.
00:10:22.000Which side do you think is going to win?
00:10:23.000The state of California just passed a new law that said if children, children, minors come to their state for gender transition surgeries or gender transition procedures and the other state said, hey, they're not allowed to do that.
00:10:43.000We will not extradite on the basis of this.
00:10:46.000So that's the kind of energy when I see that.
00:10:48.000And Darren Beattie has a piece at Revolver talking about it.
00:10:51.000When I see that kind of energy out of the left, I say, well, why can't the right do that?
00:10:54.000Why can't the right create sanctuary states for pro-life?
00:10:58.000Why can't they create sanctuary states for gun laws, for any number of these things?
00:11:03.000Yep, that's exactly what is necessary.
00:11:05.000But it's going to take some Republicans, I think, like Kerry Lake to think that way and not these normy, weak Republicans that are moral equivalents to the Vichy French.
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00:12:19.000Jack, something suspicious is happening in China.
00:12:22.000There is something, it's the National Congress, is that right?
00:12:26.000Or it is, it's kind of the big, the big CCP meeting.
00:12:29.000Walk us through what's happening here.
00:12:31.000Okay, so this is the coronation of Xi Jinping as chairman for life of the CCP.
00:12:37.000What the National Party's Conference is, it's a five-year, held every five-year summit for the CCP.
00:12:46.000So that means we can all do math out there.
00:12:48.000That means it's been 100 years since they've been doing these.
00:12:50.000So the 20th Party Congress, Xi Jinping has really got his leadership, his elites, his allies, the people that are on his side in every single key position now of the Politburo, the Politburo Standing Committee, the Politburo Expanded Committee.
00:13:06.000He is across the military, across every single member of the Secretariat.
00:13:10.000It's all of his loyalists, the generals, they're all in place for Xi.
00:13:14.000And what he's done is essentially become the new chairman for life of China.
00:13:22.000I predicted this all the way back in January, January 31st of 2022.
00:13:26.000And Charlie, you might remember that if you go look at the China hands and the China experts in this whole area, they'll say, well, you know, Xi Jinping, he's not as strong as everybody thinks he is.
00:13:36.000We think there's different factions within China that are able to take him down.
00:13:40.000We think that if the Olympics don't go well, they might, you know, he might fall flat on his face.
00:13:45.000But Charlie, that wasn't what happened at all, as a matter of fact.
00:13:48.000And in my piece, I predicted that the factions within the CCP are nowhere near.
00:13:54.000The guy's like 100,000 years old, and they say that he's going to be the face of the opposition, the old toad, they call him.
00:14:00.000This is a guy, by the way, who was behind the crackdown at Tiananmen Square.
00:14:04.000That's one of the reasons he got the job.
00:14:06.000And so when you look at what's going forward with this, my gripe with a lot of it is that a lot of the experts, and you see this on the right and the left, they keep telling you that the CCP is about to collapse, the CCP is about to collapse, but that's actually not what's happening.
00:14:19.000Xi Jinping is methodically and systematically taking out his opposition across the country to the point, Charlie, where it's gotten so bad.
00:14:28.000We talk about lockdown policies here in the United States, and a lot of that's starting to come back on a lot of these politicians.
00:14:33.000Of course, as we've seen videos, video coming back with sending their own words against them when it came to the efficacy of these vaccines and the fact that, no, actually, the vaccines never stopped transmission, despite what you all said no less than one year ago.
00:14:47.000In China, the CCP, by showing their, they've made it a declaration they must be COVID-0, which is obviously insane.
00:14:55.000It's complete insanity that you're going to be able to eradicate this from the entire country.
00:15:00.000Well, Xi Jinping has said that you will show loyalty to me and created a new contest, basically, within the CCP.
00:15:08.000So the provincial leaders, the city leaders, the municipal leaders of the party, Charlie, they're all trying to crack down harder than everyone else in the party to show their fealty to the emperor.
00:15:21.000That's actually what's going on within China right now.
00:15:24.000Yeah, is it this like, you mentioned this before?
00:15:26.000Is this part of the superstitious that a plague is assigned from the heavens to get rid of a leader?
00:15:40.000And people will remember, you know, I always kind of throw this out that on the very first episode of War Room Pandemic, that's exactly what I said.
00:15:47.000I said, under the theory of dynastic cycles and the theory of dynastic decline within China, if you think of the CCP as just another dynasty of China, right?
00:15:56.000Everyone knows that China has their dynasty.
00:15:58.000The Jing dynasty was the last dynasty.
00:15:59.000Before that, the Yuan dynasty, you know, it fell, they were the Manchus.
00:16:49.000They actually don't care because it is about control and it's about maintaining power within the country.
00:16:54.000And so they know they're going to take the economic hit.
00:16:56.000But as we've always said, Charlie, this is why the CCP did everything they could to spread COVID to the rest of the world so that everyone would have to take an economic hit, not just them.
00:17:07.000Yeah, there's something here that doesn't make sense because if they spread it to the rest of the world, then why would they do this?
00:17:14.000I mean, it just might be the simple explanation might be the best.
00:17:17.000It's that the Chinese government is just really, probably, really dumb on this and that there is some superstitious thing and they're just trying to further control the Chinese citizenry from a kind of get them further and further away from liberty because liberty probably threatens Xi Jinping more than anything else is that if you have people controlled, then they're not going to be restless in the streets.
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00:19:07.000Doctor, why don't you take an opportunity to introduce yourself first, your history, and how you found yourself to be Surgeon General of Florida.
00:19:14.000And then also, I just loved your insight of how on earth that has become a lightning rod in recent years.
00:19:23.000So, you know, you might be shocked if you read the newspapers to know that I went to medical school and received a PhD in a quantitative field at Harvard.
00:19:34.000And I spent years as a physician and a researcher at NYU and then UCLA.
00:19:44.000And I just recently joined the faculty of University of Florida.
00:19:48.000I've had, I don't know, maybe 70 or 80 peer-reviewed publications.
00:19:53.000I've had, I think, five NIH grants, including four clinical trials.
00:20:01.000And when it comes to research, I have a pretty strong background.
00:20:09.000I get fact-checked by journalists who some of whom have never taken a quantitative class in their life, but I actually do have a pretty strong background in research and also clinical medicine.
00:20:23.000Yeah, that must be frustrating, I suppose.
00:20:26.000You have a great spirit and a great attitude.
00:20:28.000One of the reasons why I love you is because you have great joy and it comes across.
00:20:31.000You love people and you want to serve them.
00:20:33.000And it must be interesting to have some sort of 24-year-old fact checker, right?
00:20:40.000I mean, that really doesn't have the background that you do.
00:21:07.000So first of all, even some people who have some training in this area, unfortunately, still don't invest the time to understand certain research methods before they go ahead and start making criticisms.
00:21:27.000The other issue is when journalists who I have no problem, I have obviously, I have nothing against journalists, but this particular journalist at the LA Times not only doesn't have the research background, but was parroting someone else who also didn't understand the methods, but presenting that as if he understood what he was talking about.
00:21:55.000And it is amazing that there's so little self-awareness that people are just, you know, you know more about treating patients with COVID than a doctor who worked in the hospital at UCLA and has taken care of patients with COVID.
00:22:12.000And apparently you also know more about research methodology than a guy who spent extra years in graduate school to get a PhD.
00:22:20.000So just for example, I mean, we have a journalist we found who fact-checked you, who, again, might be a very sweet person, but she graduated in 2017 from Wayne State with a degree in broadcast journalism.
00:22:30.000Again, might be a sweet person, not trying to attack her, but this stuff is very, I mean, at some point, you've gone through a rigorous, you know, life experience and you put forward a study.
00:22:41.000And one of your tweets you put out, I really want to compliment you on because I love it.
00:22:45.000You said, basically, look at all the wonderful discussion we're stimulating.
00:22:49.000Isn't it great that we can discuss science transparently instead of trying to cancel one another?
00:22:54.000I'm going to respond to the more substantive critiques.
00:22:58.000I mean, you've been in the scientific realm your whole life.
00:23:01.000In the last two years, you've experienced something that I'm sure have just floored you and many others, which is it's not even a matter of discussing the studies or having dialogue.
00:23:16.000Well, that is a good question for those people to ask themselves.
00:23:20.000And unfortunately, considering we're entering our third year of this and they're still doing the same thing, I don't think we can count on them to ask themselves that question.
00:23:32.000Ultimately, I think the root of it is fear.
00:23:37.000And whether it's fear of betting on the wrong course in terms of some of these really destructive policies and having to come face to face with that, that you made a mistake that has affected the lives of millions of people, for example, with these long school closures, or fear of losing some political battle that they think means something, or certainly they think means more than their integrity.
00:24:07.000I'm not sure, but it's certainly not coming from a place that you want to spend any time in.
00:24:13.000You know, it's coming from a place that has lots of sadness and misery and other things like that.
00:24:19.000So let's talk about some of the specifics, especially in the last 48 hours, 72 hours that has really kind of, I don't know, lit the media on fire.
00:24:26.000You came out with a report where it said, and I'm just paraphrasing, 84% increase in myocarditis or pericarditis or cardiac events for young men.
00:24:39.000So the risk of myocarditis, which has been evaluated extensively by others, is actually more on the order of 20 times, 30 times, sometimes even 40 times.
00:24:50.000So you're talking increases of in the thousands of percentage.
00:24:55.000So that's, that's kind of, that is well known.
00:24:58.000What we found that was novel that really got people very agitated.
00:25:06.000And by the way, not because we did anything special.
00:25:08.000The one special thing we did was just ask the question.
00:25:12.000That's what distinguished us from other people.
00:25:15.000But what we found was that there was an 84% risk increase in cardiac death if you're a young man and you take one of these mRNA shots.
00:25:34.000Actually, older men also had a risk increase of, it was more modest, maybe 10%, but they also benefited.
00:25:41.000So there was a lower overall mortality in that age group.
00:25:44.000So this was a finding that was unique to a specific population in the study.
00:25:52.000And it's consistent with a lot of the very tragic anecdotal evidence we've been receiving on the ground of unexplained increases in cardiac struggles with young men.
00:26:03.000So if you Google your name, I think the media has become so dishonest in more ways than one.
00:27:02.000And I hope I'm not doing the wrong thing by doing this, but the chair of medicine at UCSF, one of the greatest medical schools in the country, put out a tweet of criticism that abjectly showed he had no idea what the study methodology is.
00:27:24.000So if you've got department chairs who don't understand a study, but are so certain in their communication about whether that study does what it purports to do or whether you can have any confidence in its findings, that's how far off we are.
00:27:43.000That's how far away we are from our foundational principles of honesty and integrity and curiosity.
00:27:52.000It's hard to even put your mind around it.
00:27:55.000I mean, it's both disheartening and just bewildering.
00:28:01.000And it's also, I mean, has civilizational implications too, right?
00:28:04.000I mean, if you can't have a platform or a process to be able to, let's just say, chart an inquiry into the natural world and determine whether or not something we're giving hundreds of millions of people is working, and you just suppress all that speech, that's a really bad thing for all people, including the defenders of this technology that think it's the best thing ever.
00:28:25.000You know, so I just did a campus event the other day at University of Texas Austin, and somebody came up and they said that, Charlie, I don't like that you're asking questions about the vaccine.
00:29:06.000My guidance is that for a specific age group of a specific sex, do not take this vaccine.
00:29:12.000It's just not the guidance of the state of Florida.
00:29:15.000And then you have all these forces coming against you.
00:29:18.000Where do you get your strength and courage from to talk about this?
00:29:21.000Because it would have been easy just for you to, you know, do what every other surgeon general has basically done, which is basically nothing.
00:29:32.000And I mean, and what we're saying really is that, look, I mean, I think it's a bad idea.
00:29:39.000If you're a young man at this point in the pandemic to take one of these vaccines when it is, when we have evidence of not only from our study, but other studies of cardiovascular risk, I think it's a bad idea.
00:30:10.000Basically, I was driving my poor wife nuts with all my stress and fear and all that stuff.
00:30:17.000And she finally found a guy who helped me deal with those things and resolve them definitively with stuff that I don't understand.
00:30:28.000So specifically Chinese medicine stuff, meridian theory stuff related to the flow of qi.
00:30:36.000And I worked with him and I was basically reborn.
00:30:41.000I was like a new, I was a new man because basically he helped me.
00:30:45.000It turns out that we store our stress and our trauma in our bodies, like in our parts of our bodies, in our muscles, in our tendons, and our ligaments.
00:30:53.000I don't understand it, but that's the truth.
00:30:57.000And I was doing that just like everybody else walking this planet.
00:31:01.000And he used these mostly physical, some verbal techniques to help me shed it.
00:31:08.000And basically it opened up a new life and new doors.
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00:33:12.000So, doctor, I got to ask you, there's a new California bill that is going to punish doctors if they question kind of the COVID narrative.
00:33:20.000I don't know if you saw this bill or not.
00:33:22.000It's a new law that Gavin Newsom signed into effect.
00:33:25.000What are your thoughts or reaction to this?
00:33:30.000I was looking at that bill and I was wondering, because Newsom has, Newsom's in a funny situation because he, and by the way, he's not particularly a trustworthy individual is my perspective.
00:33:44.000But he's in a funny situation because the people he essentially oversees, if you will, the lawmakers in California, they are actually, they are willing to do things that he's unwilling to do.
00:34:15.000And I was wondering what he would do about this bill.
00:34:19.000So I looked at the statement he put out when he signed it, and he was spinning and bending and twisting to make it appear that it was so narrowly tailored that it would be, it was fine to sign it.
00:34:36.000And oh my gosh, I think probably I haven't seen a survey of doctors, but this, it's just so stupid.
00:34:46.000There are doctors who do practice medicine in such different ways.
00:34:53.000And the thing is, it also assumes an arrogance about how much we know.
00:34:59.000There are doctors, I'll tell you, my wife, I wrote about this in the Washington Post before many years ago.
00:35:07.000My wife had severe migraines, was hospitalized multiple times when she got pregnant with our first kid.
00:35:18.000And we saw so many doctors and she was suffering so much.
00:35:23.000Emergency ambulances would come to the building in New York, take her.
00:35:27.000And we finally met a doctor named Dr. Mark Green at Mount Sinai.
00:35:32.000And Dr. Mark Green started her on a program that was not in any of the textbooks that I'd read.
00:35:39.000And I had read so much about migraines at this point.
00:35:46.000He helped her get on a path of recovery, which means everything to us, of course, because he saved her life.
00:35:55.000The things he did initially weren't in a textbook.
00:36:00.000So this idea that you know so much that you can identify what's quote unquote right and wrong in a way that you can put it into law, it's just so absurd and just shows unfortunately how far off the cliff these leaders in California have gone.
00:36:18.000It's a tragedy because it's a beautiful state.
00:36:24.000Tell us about your book and how people can access it.
00:36:27.000Yeah, well, my book, yes, it talks about public health, but the most important message in my book for people who want this is to know more about how I and other people have gotten free of their stress, their anxiety, their self-doubt, their fear.
00:36:44.000And it doesn't answer that question, but it shares my own path, which again is similar to the path of many other people who've worked with this guy, Christopher Mater.
00:36:54.000So that's really the major purpose of it.
00:36:57.000And it's important because that's how all this nonsense stops.
00:37:01.000When people stop being afraid to listen to their intuition, to be aligned with what they believe is true, irrespective of what other people are shoving down their throats, all of this nonsense stops.
00:37:14.000The stupid vaccine passports, the mandates, the closing of schools, all that crap stops forever.