The Charlie Kirk Show - September 26, 2026


From the Archive: A Regime of Anthony Faucis: Our Illegitimate Expert Class

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
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00:01:22.000 Hello, everybody.
00:01:23.000 Great to see you.
00:01:23.000 Actually, I can't see you yet.
00:01:25.000 It's great to be here.
00:01:27.000 I love Idaho, and I've wanted to come to Sun Valley for quite some time.
00:01:31.000 And it's great to be here.
00:01:32.000 And largely because I always watch it from the news, because I think the downfall of Western civilization is planned down the street.
00:01:40.000 No, I'm half kidding.
00:01:41.000 You got a lot of characters that visit here every so often.
00:01:44.000 But went on a great hike today.
00:01:47.000 Thank you, those of you that went to the radio program earlier.
00:01:50.000 It was a lot of fun and super warmly received.
00:01:54.000 I want to spend the most time on your questions and also the fireside chat, but there's one thing I want to make sure I emphasize here tonight.
00:02:01.000 There's just one thing that you remember from my message.
00:02:04.000 It's the following it's that the people who are destroying the country are not making a series of mistakes, they're doing so intentionally.
00:02:12.000 And I said this previously at lunch, and this is what we call the great divide right now between how you analyze what's happening in the country.
00:02:20.000 If you are to believe that the current ruling class or regime are making a bunch of mistakes, then you have to tell me.
00:02:26.000 That keeping a border completely wide open and spending trillions of dollars that we do not have, sending billions of dollars overseas unnecessarily, the destruction of the American dollar, allowing men and female sports, so on and so forth, reversing Title IX, that this is just a bunch of people that don't know what they're doing.
00:02:45.000 And they know exactly what they're doing.
00:02:47.000 And I think it's important for us to go back into a period of time.
00:02:50.000 And I understand why people are reluctant to talk the way I talk about this, because you have to then acknowledge and admit that you are now a stranger in your own country.
00:03:01.000 And that is not a really comforting thing to hear that the people that are in charge don't share the core American values or principles.
00:03:09.000 Now, let me be clear.
00:03:10.000 I travel the country, I go to college campuses.
00:03:12.000 The American people still share the American core values and principles, but the people in charge do not.
00:03:17.000 So, in the 1970s, 1980s, there was a paper that was written.
00:03:21.000 Everyone should know about it.
00:03:22.000 It's called the Cloward Piven Strategy.
00:03:24.000 It was two political scientists, and they were communists, outward Marxists and communists, and they wanted to destroy America.
00:03:30.000 They wanted to turn it into something different.
00:03:31.000 They hated free market capitalism, they did not like private property rights.
00:03:35.000 And they said the way that America will be destroyed, and this is called the Cloward Piven Strategy, will be three things.
00:03:42.000 Step one, have America borrow so much money and spend so much money that the American dollar is totally worthless, that the dollar means nothing, and we engage in unprecedented inflation.
00:03:54.000 Step two, build a deep state bureaucracy or an administrative state that swallows the private sector, and the power and the influence in society is not found in entrepreneurs or risk takers.
00:04:06.000 But instead, it's found in experts, as Scott Rasmussen said earlier, a council of an expert class that will rule over the American people.
00:04:13.000 Step three open up the borders and invite the third world and overwhelm schools, overwhelm the hospitals, overwhelm your public infrastructure, and confuse citizen from foreigner because then citizen means nothing.
00:04:25.000 They wrote in great detail exactly what we are living through right now.
00:04:30.000 And you can look it up.
00:04:32.000 People all the time say, Charlie, there's no way that our people in charge, how could they be this sinister?
00:04:37.000 And I'm actually uniquely qualified to answer that question.
00:04:41.000 Because I visit college campuses so you don't have to.
00:04:45.000 And since I visit college campuses so you don't have to, I see what is coming next.
00:04:51.000 And so I'm able to go to events like this, and I've been doing this for the last 12 years and warn people hey, there's some really radical stuff coming, and you should probably be worried about what's happening on these university campuses.
00:05:02.000 We'll talk about this, I'm sure, in the fireside chat.
00:05:06.000 I believe that 95%, probably 99%, of universities are completely lost and will never be saved.
00:05:13.000 They should be metaphorically burned to the ground.
00:05:14.000 Well, and some of them should actually be burned to the ground.
00:05:17.000 And by the way, the fact that that's not being met by applause by many of you is because that's a shocking statement, but it's absolutely true.
00:05:22.000 Those Hamas protests that you saw are not an exception.
00:05:25.000 It is the rule of the ideological cancer that our campuses have become.
00:05:31.000 And so when I go to these college campuses and I have a chance to debate with professors, understand it all makes sense.
00:05:38.000 The bitterness that they have towards Western civilization and towards America is so evident.
00:05:47.000 Perspectives.
00:05:48.000 The first of which is they believe that America from its founding was an unjust experiment.
00:05:54.000 This is why the 1619 Project was not some inconsequential textbook.
00:05:59.000 They believe that America was racist from its founding, colonialist.
00:06:03.000 It has always been terrible and will always be terrible because we believe in things such as the individual succeeding, we believe in the nuclear family, we believe that there is a God and we are not Him.
00:06:16.000 These are all at odds with secular Marxism that you'll find in the academy.
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00:07:47.000 And so you see that then metamorphosize into now the ruling class orthodoxy.
00:07:52.000 And the orthodoxy amongst those who are in charge of society is they have contempt for the country that they are running.
00:08:00.000 And that is exactly what you're seeing happen with the Biden regime.
00:08:03.000 And I use that term intentionally regime.
00:08:05.000 He's not running the country.
00:08:05.000 We know that.
00:08:06.000 Okay.
00:08:06.000 Let's get over ourselves.
00:08:07.000 Whatever drugs they put in him on Thursday, right?
00:08:11.000 That'll be okay.
00:08:14.000 If he gets that debate, it'll be one of the greatest accomplishments in American chemistry ever.
00:08:21.000 I want to meet that guy.
00:08:24.000 Nobel Prize right there telling you.
00:08:27.000 So let's not fool ourselves.
00:08:28.000 Okay.
00:08:28.000 That's a sideshow.
00:08:30.000 There is a group of people who call themselves experts.
00:08:35.000 Who have unjust authority over our life and the direction of our civilization.
00:08:39.000 And a brief sidestep here a perfect example of that is Anthony Fauci.
00:08:45.000 If you want a living example, your government has 5,000 Anthony Faucis.
00:08:50.000 You think there's only one of them?
00:08:52.000 No, there's an Anthony Fauci at the FBI, at the Department of Justice.
00:08:56.000 Now, what do I mean by that?
00:08:57.000 People that have no wisdom, lots of credentials, who have failed upwards for 40 years.
00:09:04.000 How about we, the American people, get an apology from Anthony Fauci?
00:09:06.000 I don't know, for ruining young people's lives for two years?
00:09:11.000 But we won't.
00:09:12.000 Because an apology means that you did something wrong.
00:09:18.000 And the expert class will never acknowledge they did anything wrong, ever.
00:09:21.000 It's just full blunt brute force against the American people.
00:09:25.000 So you look at the cloud pivot strategy and what we're living through right now, the status quo, and I write about this in my upcoming book, which I call Right Wing Revolution, which I'll tell you why I picked that title.
00:09:35.000 It's very understated, obviously.
00:09:39.000 And I'll tell you why, because I choose my words very carefully, is that.
00:09:43.000 We have lived through a cultural Marxist, slow but steady revolution that has lasted 50 years.
00:09:52.000 And again, that is a hard truth to swallow.
00:09:57.000 Because in order to swallow that truth, we must all acknowledge and admit that we were not taking this as seriously as we should have 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago.
00:10:07.000 And honestly, it's because we were prioritizing things that matter more than politics.
00:10:12.000 You were raising your kids.
00:10:14.000 You were building your churches, building your businesses, taking care of your neighbors.
00:10:19.000 And as America has become more secular, so not religious, people need to fill that void, and politics is the perfect substitute religion for a secular society.
00:10:31.000 It gives people meaning, it gives them purpose, it gives them community.
00:10:35.000 So as America has become less focused on a belief in a central belief in God, then politics becomes infinitely more important.
00:10:44.000 And so, the question in front of us, which we'll explore tonight, is then how do you then defeat a regime that seems to control almost every institution and they don't even care about the nation that they are stewarding?
00:10:58.000 And I hope you understand there's so much negativity in our textbooks, which is not warranted, about Rockefeller and Carnegie and J.P. Morgan and the Robert Barons of the early 20th century.
00:11:08.000 Yes, okay, some of them could have obviously acted better, but we all know those titans of industry.
00:11:13.000 What did Rockefeller and Carnegie do with their money?
00:11:16.000 They gave it back to the country.
00:11:19.000 Rockefeller donated land, and we have Acadia National Park in Maine because of him.
00:11:24.000 We have parts of Grand Teton and Yellowstone because of him.
00:11:27.000 We have universities thanks to Carnegie Mellon, thanks to Andrew Carnegie.
00:11:32.000 So then you ask, well, what is our current ruling class spending money on, Elon Musk aside?
00:11:38.000 They spend money to then incinerate the very country that they have everything over.
00:11:46.000 And there really is no other explanation.
00:11:48.000 That you are being driven by a wicked ideology at that point.
00:11:51.000 It's not about making the world a better place.
00:11:53.000 That's the story they tell themselves, obviously.
00:11:55.000 Oh, we're trying to fight climate change.
00:11:56.000 They don't believe in that, obviously.
00:11:58.000 If they were fighting climate change, they would sell all their homes in Martha's Vineyard immediately.
00:12:02.000 Of course not.
00:12:02.000 They don't believe it.
00:12:04.000 They're walking contradictions.
00:12:06.000 No, it's about power for power's sake.
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00:12:59.000 And so, how do you defeat that?
00:13:01.000 Well, we'll talk about that in a second in the Fowerside Chat.
00:13:03.000 And I lay this out in the book because it's time now for a revolution against the counter revolution and against as a counter revolution.
00:13:11.000 And it is our ask is very simple, which is that we want what used to be considered non controversial to be reinstituted.
00:13:23.000 We want a border, we want men to no longer be able to go in female locker rooms in over 20 states across the country.
00:13:30.000 We say that children should be off limits from medical mutilation.
00:13:34.000 That they call trans affirming care, which is happening all across the country.
00:13:38.000 And we also believe, very simply, that the American dollar should not be intentionally eroded time and time again through deficit spending sprees in Washington, D.C. Just very simple and basic stuff.
00:13:50.000 But it's going to require, and that's what I'm trying to do at Turning Point every single day there is one thing left that they do not control.
00:13:57.000 They control the FBI, Department of Justice, Google, Goldman Sachs.
00:14:01.000 They do not control the American people, and it terrifies them.
00:14:05.000 On a daily basis, their obsession, they say their obsession is Donald Trump.
00:14:10.000 Ain't wrong.
00:14:11.000 I could tell you why.
00:14:13.000 They will make excuses for every one of their politicians for the very same behavior that Donald Trump makes.
00:14:17.000 It's not about Trump, it's about the beast that Donald Trump awoke.
00:14:21.000 And it's you, the American people.
00:14:23.000 It's that you are in the room now.
00:14:25.000 And you're not supposed to.
00:14:27.000 Because understand, and Scott Rasmussen said it perfectly on my show earlier, perfectly.
00:14:32.000 He said, they believe in the politics of administration.
00:14:35.000 The politics of the experts.
00:14:37.000 Anthony Fauci sitting in a room deciding whether or not your senior in high school gets to go to prom.
00:14:44.000 That some guy in DC gets to make the decision that you have to go wear a cloth mask when you're hiking alone on a trail.
00:14:55.000 And what's not supposed to happen is in this new era of the governance of the experts, the deplorable people are not allowed a seat at the table.
00:15:10.000 They're not allowed input.
00:15:12.000 And that is truly what we are now debating as a country.
00:15:15.000 And it's so much bigger than Trump versus Biden.
00:15:18.000 And I'm telling anyone who will listen what it actually is.
00:15:20.000 We are now debating what is the form and the structure of the very government we are going to have for the next hundred years.
00:15:26.000 Is the form or the structure going to be one of an oligarchy where you have two parties that pretend to fight each other all the time, but they agree on the big stuff?
00:15:37.000 Like they agree on borrowing money and keeping the borders open.
00:15:39.000 They agree on sending money to Ukraine.
00:15:41.000 They agree on the big stuff and they'll disagree on the little stuff.
00:15:44.000 But the country still continues to fall apart.
00:15:47.000 Where you have a politics of administration or the administration of politics where you are immediately considered a smarter person because you went to Harvard.
00:15:57.000 And you might have a lot of knowledge or have a lot of intelligence.
00:15:59.000 You have no wisdom if you went to Harvard.
00:16:01.000 None.
00:16:01.000 These are people that believe men give birth, not an exaggeration.
00:16:05.000 By the way, just so you were clear, almost every college teaches men give birth today in America.
00:16:09.000 So, if you're sending your grandkid to college, that is doctrinaire mainstream curriculum.
00:16:14.000 And I'm a transphobe for saying that men don't give birth.
00:16:17.000 So, these people have no wisdom, but they have unbelievable ferocity to take over the country.
00:16:24.000 And so, the hope lies in the everyday American.
00:16:29.000 And they are very worried, they being the oligarchy and the ruling class.
00:16:33.000 And to give them a name, it's Soros, it's Susan Rice, it's John Podesta, it's Hillary Clinton, it's Chuck Schumer, it's Nancy Pelosi, it's Mark Zuckerberg, it's Bill Gates, it's some of the folks that.
00:16:43.000 Come near here.
00:16:46.000 They are annoyed about we the people.
00:16:49.000 2024 is very simple.
00:16:52.000 It's do you want to be governed by we the people or we the experts?
00:16:56.000 It's that simple.
00:16:58.000 And it should be we the people.
00:16:59.000 That is our birthright, by the way.
00:17:01.000 This election is about a restoration or an elimination of our birthright.
00:17:05.000 Because oligarchies, that's a really, really bad way to run a country.
00:17:09.000 And to be honest, like, I might offend some people, you are all going to get really rich if the oligarchy continues.
00:17:15.000 A lot of people in this room.
00:17:16.000 This will not impact you, but your kids will not have a country.
00:17:20.000 And I hear it all the time.
00:17:21.000 People, like, literally, the other day, well, Charlie, my stocks have done really well under Biden, and, you know, my 401k and, you know, my asset prices are higher.
00:17:30.000 I was like, okay, that is an unbelievably.
00:17:33.000 Self centered way of looking at the world.
00:17:34.000 Like, okay, great, yes, when you print more money and you deploy more liquidity in the system, if you own homes, that value will artificially get higher because there's less goods, there's more dollar bills chasing less goods.
00:17:46.000 But what country are you going to have a house in exactly?
00:17:49.000 Or how about, do you think that your grandkids will be raised in the same nation that you were in?
00:17:54.000 Of course not.
00:17:55.000 And so the question in front of us is do we think the American people combined through a constitutional republic system?
00:18:03.000 Have the wisdom to properly govern and steer us through this unknown chapter or period, or we finally say the Constitution was a bad idea, we are going to give all of our power to a bunch of PhDs from Yale?
00:18:18.000 That's the question in front of us.
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