The Charlie Kirk Show - Halting a MAGA Movement Mass Suicide with Ric Grenell

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk show, we go right off the bat into the RNC race with Rick Grinnell.

00:00:06.000 And then I asked the question, should you stop voting?

00:00:09.000 We received an alarming amount of emails from people saying I'm done voting.

00:00:14.000 And unfortunately, that attitude has manifested into election losses.

00:00:20.000 200,000 people that voted on 11-8 did not vote for Herschel Walker.

00:00:24.000 700,000 people that voted for Donald Trump in 2020 did not even show up for Herschel Walker.

00:00:30.000 400,000 people in Arizona that came out and voted for Donald Trump could not be bothered to go show up in this midterm election.

00:00:38.000 800,000 people in Pennsylvania.

00:00:40.000 You get the point.

00:00:42.000 Why?

00:00:42.000 What's going on?

00:00:43.000 Democrat turnout is up.

00:00:44.000 Democrats are enthused.

00:00:45.000 Well, we receive lots of emails of people that have told us that voting is a way of perpetuating a corrupt system.

00:00:53.000 Do you guys believe that?

00:00:54.000 I want your thoughts.

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00:01:58.000 We are recapping the unfortunate Senate results from Georgia, a very winnable race, where unfortunately Raphael Warnock will go on to a six-year term.

00:02:08.000 Someone said, well, Charlie, how do we know they didn't show up?

00:02:10.000 Well, Georgia has the second most counties of any state in the country.

00:02:14.000 And you can just go county by county, go to Wayne County, go to Tatteno County, go to Tombs County, go to Emmanuel County.

00:02:20.000 Their turnout was just down.

00:02:21.000 It's just people who came and showed up or did not show up.

00:02:24.000 It's that simple.

00:02:24.000 We're not even talking about the nonsense in Fulton or Henry or DeKalb or Cobb.

00:02:29.000 Turnout was down and it manifested in Herschel Walker, unfortunately coming about 95,000 votes short.

00:02:35.000 But 200,000 people in the state of Georgia had something better to do than go and vote.

00:02:43.000 Okay, joining us now is Rick Grinnell to talk about how we need to fire the current Republican National Committee leadership.

00:02:50.000 It's unacceptable that in a year that should have been a red wave, we lost a net Senate seat, we barely won the House, and we were humiliated in other races across the country.

00:03:00.000 The terrific Rick Grinnell is here.

00:03:01.000 Rick, welcome back to the program.

00:03:03.000 Charlie, thanks for having me.

00:03:04.000 Rick, what a morning.

00:03:06.000 Yeah, it is.

00:03:07.000 It's time for us to demand change.

00:03:08.000 I don't understand.

00:03:10.000 Somebody emailed us.

00:03:11.000 They said, Charlie, I think we need to keep the current RNC leadership the same.

00:03:14.000 I say, really, you must love losing.

00:03:16.000 I hate losing.

00:03:16.000 I know you do too, Rick.

00:03:17.000 I don't want to normalize losing in the Republican Party.

00:03:21.000 Who should lead the RNC given what we now know?

00:03:25.000 Well, first of all, let me just say that I spoke to President Trump yesterday about this issue, and he was going to let us know what his views were and who should lead the RNC.

00:03:35.000 But really, the discussion was all about how do we make wholesale changes to the system that we're up against.

00:03:44.000 Look, just look at Act Blue versus Win Red.

00:03:50.000 We are getting incredibly beat when it comes to fundraising.

00:03:55.000 Did, as you know, Charlie, I did a whole bunch of races across Nevada, Arizona.

00:04:00.000 Um, I helped in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

00:04:03.000 I did so many races, and every single time the Democrats would outraise us, and they didn't even do fundraising.

00:04:11.000 They just literally had this Act Blue raising them money.

00:04:15.000 So the Democrats don't have to pick and choose between: do we go up on television and spend millions of dollars with ads and also a strategy to attack the other side with ads?

00:04:27.000 Or do we have this well-funded ground game where we go and we pay people to go door to door?

00:04:35.000 But the Republican Party, I don't care what state you're in or wherever you are, the Republican Party has traditionally relied on volunteers to do their get out the vote.

00:04:46.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats have this built-in union system.

00:04:50.000 I know you do great work with the churches.

00:04:53.000 I think that we're going to have to start mobilizing the groups that believe in what we do to do whatever they can legally, whether it's ballot harvesting, whether it's collecting ballots, whether it's going door to door.

00:05:07.000 We got to start paying for this.

00:05:09.000 We can't expect just volunteers.

00:05:12.000 But I do also think that we've got this built-in challenge as conservatives and Republicans that, you know, we fundamentally distrust government.

00:05:21.000 We don't want to organize around government structures.

00:05:26.000 Our voters are people who want to minimize government.

00:05:29.000 And then the other side is the one who literally gets government funding because they believe in these programs.

00:05:36.000 And so we're just being outspent.

00:05:38.000 And I'm not suggesting that we immediately just go ballot harvest.

00:05:42.000 Maybe we do, but I still think that there's got to be a more creative way that we, as consistent conservatives, small government people, can figure out how to combat mobilizing people.

00:05:56.000 And that's what it takes.

00:05:57.000 Maybe it's a technology.

00:05:59.000 You know, we're better at the private sector.

00:06:01.000 So maybe we develop a better technology.

00:06:04.000 There's got to be creative ways.

00:06:06.000 And I just don't see that at the top.

00:06:08.000 I don't see people going out and deciding to use the private sector to combat this problem.

00:06:16.000 That's usually what conservatives do: we bring the private sector into these problems.

00:06:21.000 And I don't see it happening.

00:06:23.000 So who do you think?

00:06:24.000 Are you behind Harmeet for RNC chair?

00:06:27.000 Look, I told President Trump yesterday that he is the leader of this party.

00:06:32.000 I fully believe that President Trump will easily become the nominee for the Republicans.

00:06:39.000 And I told him, I'm going to support whoever he supports.

00:06:42.000 And he said, give me a little time.

00:06:43.000 So I know he's talking to all the candidates, but let me just say this: regardless of who's on top at the RNC, we must have wholesale change in how we approach elections, how we approach the legal team.

00:07:00.000 Oh my gosh, Charlie, we could do a whole show.

00:07:02.000 Yes.

00:07:02.000 Disaster when it comes to who they put, which lawyers they put on our campaigns.

00:07:09.000 And look, they'll push back and they'll say, hey, it's really difficult to have election lawyers who are experts when we don't have a system that supports these lawyers year-round when there's not elections.

00:07:22.000 And so we have very few people who spend the time making their living on election law.

00:07:28.000 I get that, but we've got to then have leadership that's creative to say, okay, here's a law firm that needs to be supported by all the conservatives so that they have the ability to go out and take lawyers on legal work on outside of election season.

00:07:48.000 Yes.

00:07:49.000 And I mean, if anyone is going to be equipped or prepared for that, it would be Harmeet Dylan, who is a lawyer herself to actually get into lawfare.

00:07:59.000 I mean, I just, I think of this very logically, I think fairly.

00:08:02.000 I don't dislike Rana.

00:08:04.000 She's been very nice to me.

00:08:05.000 I've spoken at events and she spoke at our events.

00:08:07.000 Okay, terrific.

00:08:08.000 I think there's a role for her, but we fire head coaches in the National Football League if they go 500. 0.92

00:08:16.000 And we're going to have the same leader of the RNC after a humiliating loss in Georgia, losing the Senate, barely winning the House, not controlling the presidency.

00:08:26.000 I don't understand the calculus here.

00:08:28.000 I mean, in the real world, this would not be tolerated at all.

00:08:33.000 I mean, we have to get out of this kind of like politico ecosystem, political echo chamber where you can't run a business this way.

00:08:40.000 You can't run a sports team this way.

00:08:42.000 You couldn't run a church this way.

00:08:44.000 Imagine if you were running a church like, yeah, you know, third year in a row, we have to continue to sign another banknote just to keep us afloat.

00:08:50.000 Like, actually, maybe we should fire the CFO and find out why our attendance is declining.

00:08:54.000 Rick, your thoughts.

00:08:56.000 Yeah, look, I get all those points.

00:08:58.000 And we are the party of the private sector.

00:09:00.000 We're the party that doesn't think like government bureaucrats.

00:09:02.000 And so we should be bringing all these ideas to the party structure.

00:09:08.000 I do think that it's challenging because we just fundamentally don't believe in big entities and structures.

00:09:14.000 And so we've got a whole bunch of people in the grassroots who don't like the RNC, who don't like being managed like that.

00:09:20.000 They want the freedom to be able to do their own thing.

00:09:23.000 But what I can say about Harmeet, because I'm a Californian and I know her, there's nobody better to clean up the legal problems. 0.94

00:09:33.000 I know she's just really frustrated with all of the legal problems that we have, the lack of training for lawyers, the lack of support for law firms that are conservative.

00:09:44.000 You know, I can't help.

00:09:46.000 I have to mention the banking issue, which I really care about.

00:09:49.000 We got a lot of conservatives who are being debanked.

00:09:52.000 I can tell you a private equity firm that I work with was systematically debanked because they did ammunition funding and equity.

00:10:01.000 And that's outrageous.

00:10:03.000 And we need to have people who are firing back.

00:10:07.000 So we have to have a system of people who are proven fighters, not within the current system, because the current system isn't working for us.

00:10:14.000 I totally agree.

00:10:16.000 Rick Grinnell, we'll see what happens.

00:10:18.000 I think we need to nationalize this RNC race.

00:10:20.000 That's what we plan to do on this program.

00:10:21.000 We're going to list all 168 people, what states they're from, how to contact them.

00:10:26.000 It's enough of this backroom deal.

00:10:28.000 The voters of America are seeing their country slip out of their hands, and we need to start firing people.

00:10:34.000 I'm not going to put up with this sort of like, well, you know, everything's going to be fine.

00:10:37.000 No, three bad election cycles in a row.

00:10:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:10:39.000 Go find something else to do.

00:10:40.000 I'm sure you're a sweet person.

00:10:42.000 Rick, thank you so much.

00:10:43.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:11:47.000 Look, I understand there's a fair amount of despair out there and demoralization.

00:11:53.000 However, allowing that demoralization to manifest into not showing up to vote at all, which could probably take anywhere between 10 to 15 minutes, maybe as long to 25 to 30 minutes, that's the wrong decision.

00:12:07.000 Someone says here, Charlie, I do not believe that people did not show up and vote.

00:12:10.000 Well, based on Republican counties, they're telling us that's actually what happened.

00:12:14.000 In fact, I'm just looking at emails of one after the other after the other of people that are bragging that they no longer voted, that they did not vote for Herschel, that they said they will no longer participate in corrupt elections.

00:12:26.000 That's the wrong attitude, by the way.

00:12:28.000 The Democrats, they are celebrating and licking their chops because they know they can get the silent majority to stay at home and act in a cynical and demoralized way by not voting at all, of which 700,000 people in Georgia, if you count the presidential election numbers from 2020, 700,000 people that voted for Donald Trump and/or Herschel on 11-8 did not vote in this runoff.

00:12:53.000 700,000.

00:12:56.000 And so I'm all for fixing mail-in ballot signature verification, the machines, all of that stuff.

00:13:02.000 Someone says here, Charlie, it's not the people's fault.

00:13:05.000 We highly respect you.

00:13:06.000 However, we need to wake up and understand they've perfected cheating.

00:13:09.000 Until Republicans speak the truth, our nation is done.

00:13:12.000 It is not the people's fault.

00:13:13.000 Well, it actually is the people's fault if you don't show up and vote and you allow cynicism to take over your whole attitude.

00:13:20.000 You could do two things simultaneously.

00:13:22.000 By the way, how are you going to fix elections if you're not in political power?

00:13:25.000 So that's where we're at.

00:13:28.000 Someone says, Charlie, how can we compete with the Democrats of getting ballots?

00:13:32.000 Well, showing up to vote and at least pretending that you believe in this system would be helpful.

00:13:39.000 Other people disagree for this person right here, Maria.

00:13:44.000 Charlie, I live in Georgia.

00:13:45.000 I made a point to tell my friends to stay at home and not vote.

00:13:49.000 The system is corrupt and nothing will change until we hit rock bottom.

00:13:53.000 I'm cheering for a collapse.

00:13:56.000 Okay.

00:13:57.000 We get a lot of emails of people that are there that do that.

00:14:03.000 Someone says here, Charlie, you're not getting it.

00:14:05.000 Georgia voters are proud to have not voted because we keep taking advice from establishment and rhino leaders. 1.00

00:14:12.000 They're screaming and they only have, that's the only way they have to communicate left to put in another coach.

00:14:17.000 Okay, so that's, let me make sure I understand the argument then.

00:14:21.000 By not voting, I'm going to send a message to the establishment that they're going to change their ways.

00:14:28.000 Not exactly convinced that's going to work.

00:14:31.000 But look, here's the attitude of this program.

00:14:34.000 While the thousands of people that are emailing me celebrating their non-voting, you guys, I suppose, can keep doing that and watch the downfall of America.

00:14:44.000 We are going to stay engaged and optimistic, solution-oriented.

00:14:51.000 We're going to talk about how we can reform our election system, about how we are able to securely be able to vote and track your vote all along the way.

00:15:01.000 Someone says, Charlie, could you be more of a rhino?

00:15:05.000 You're telling people to vote, give me a break.

00:15:08.000 The way that you're trying to tell people to go through the system to fix things, it's going to take more than that.

00:15:14.000 Oh, okay.

00:15:16.000 What are your thoughts?

00:15:17.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:15:18.000 Someone says, Charlie, not voting for change is like hoping to win the lottery without buying a ticket.

00:15:23.000 That is very well said.

00:15:28.000 So look, the left right now has, and yes, just so everyone says, I just received five emails where they say, Charlotte, and these are people that have emailed the program before.

00:15:37.000 They say voting makes you a rhino.

00:15:40.000 That's where we're at.

00:15:41.000 A lot of people believe that.

00:15:42.000 And by the way, it's now manifesting.

00:15:44.000 This is not just, you know, stuff that, oh, those are some people.

00:15:47.000 No, this is now manifested into election results is what we're seeing.

00:15:52.000 And they're sending a message.

00:15:53.000 They're sending a message saying that we no longer believe in the system.

00:15:57.000 And if you vote, you're a rhino. 0.58

00:16:00.000 Boy, Democrats are celebrating because they have finally figured out one way to slow the spread of the America First movement.

00:16:09.000 Just have us stop voting.

00:16:11.000 And proud of it, by the way.

00:16:13.000 I'm proud that I don't vote.

00:16:16.000 And I really hate all the people that are doing bad things in Washington, but I'm too good of a person to go vote.

00:16:26.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:16:33.000 You got to really wonder and think for a second how the Democrats could have a better scenario than this.

00:16:42.000 You just stay at home and don't vote and bragging about it, saying, I am going to save the country by watching a program and bragging to the rest of the world that I no longer vote.

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00:18:06.000 So someone said, Charlie, aren't these trolls that are emailing you?

00:18:09.000 No, these are people we've communicated with before.

00:18:11.000 These are even some people that have purchased books before.

00:18:16.000 So we're cross-referencing some of these names because I said, is this real?

00:18:21.000 Yes, some of these are real people that are saying this.

00:18:24.000 For example, this one right here, Chuck, Charlie, I will not show up to vote anymore because Republicans refuse to fix the problem. 0.97

00:18:31.000 We are not stupid. 0.96

00:18:32.000 All the solutions we hear being put forward will never work.

00:18:35.000 Fewer and fewer of us will show up until they recognize the problem.

00:18:37.000 We must starve the beast.

00:18:39.000 It is time to collapse the country. 0.74

00:18:41.000 We are done wasting our time.

00:18:43.000 We are not losing.

00:18:44.000 We're already winning by huge margins.

00:18:45.000 Unless you address the problem, it cannot be fixed.

00:18:47.000 The wrong attitude is to ignore the truth.

00:18:49.000 I'm done voting.

00:18:51.000 And yes, you do see that manifest in election after election.

00:18:54.000 I think that's a mistake.

00:18:56.000 And I don't mean to overly dwell on this topic, but we are getting email after email.

00:19:01.000 Someone says here, Charlie, I'm tired of your self-righteous lectures.

00:19:04.000 I voted in every election all my life.

00:19:07.000 My wife and I are poll watchers, but not voting is a vote.

00:19:11.000 You cannot blame people for not voting in a totally corrupt election system.

00:19:16.000 Why not address that and cut the mealy mouth? 0.90

00:19:19.000 Oh, wait. 0.99

00:19:20.000 So I'll be honest, that's such a silly argument. 0.98

00:19:23.000 So it's a corrupt election system. 0.79

00:19:25.000 And by not voting, you're guaranteeing that you have zero voice at all whatsoever.

00:19:30.000 And if telling a fact that there's 700,000 people in Georgia that did not vote is self-righteous, I'm not exactly, I don't think I agree with that.

00:19:42.000 Email me your thoughts.

00:19:43.000 Do you think that people should continue to vote?

00:19:45.000 I don't think this is a tough call.

00:19:46.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats, not only do they think you should vote, they think they should find votes from everybody.

00:19:52.000 They find votes from the hills and the rivers and the homeless and the dead.

00:19:56.000 And meanwhile, our side is doing the work of the Democrats for them.

00:20:01.000 And look, just to be clear, from the thousands of people that are in the sentiment that have emailed us that believe this, they are cheering for the collapse or the, in their own words, the end of America.

00:20:14.000 For example, this one here, Charlie, America is over.

00:20:17.000 Voting just perpetuates the system.

00:20:19.000 It's time to let this empire fall.

00:20:22.000 I don't have the luxury at 29 years old with a daughter recently married to cheer for the end of the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:20:30.000 This is when we remember Pearl Harbor.

00:20:34.000 The day that we'll live in infamy.

00:20:37.000 And now, shockingly, I never thought I'd live to see it.

00:20:40.000 I get a breathtaking number of emails of people that just don't vote.

00:20:47.000 Someone says, Charlie, try being nicer to people who are discouraged.

00:20:50.000 Yeah, actually, I'm not even being that cruel, I think, or mean.

00:20:54.000 I'm not going to be nice if you lived in Georgia and you had something better to do and you didn't vote.

00:20:58.000 I'm sorry.

00:20:59.000 You're part of the problem.

00:21:00.000 Especially if you live in a Republican county that is not Fulton, that's not Cobb, that could have counted your ballot ethically and transparently.

00:21:10.000 I don't think I should actually be dealing with kid gloves.

00:21:15.000 Someone says, Charlie, you're not understanding the dilemma.

00:21:18.000 As a psychologist, you cannot expect people to stay engaged loss after loss after loss.

00:21:22.000 No, no, hold on a second.

00:21:23.000 Of course you can.

00:21:23.000 What are you talking about?

00:21:24.000 You ever read about the Revolutionary War?

00:21:27.000 If you have leadership, you're able to continue to dive deeper into endurance and grit and perseverance.

00:21:37.000 Someone says, we need to fix the problem and the symptom disappears.

00:21:40.000 Okay, so how do you fix the problem if you're not in political power and therefore you don't vote to get into political power?

00:21:46.000 What is the recommendation there?

00:21:48.000 Look, corruption isn't binary.

00:21:51.000 It's marginal.

00:21:53.000 Many of you that are celebrating, not voting anymore, unfortunately, you're doing your own self-inflicted voter suppression, is what is happening.

00:22:05.000 Someone says, Charlie, I don't believe people are actually saying they want the empire to fall.

00:22:09.000 Well, they are.

00:22:10.000 We're getting the emails one after the other, after the other.

00:22:13.000 This one here, Charlie, I've completely quit voting.

00:22:15.000 I unregistered.

00:22:17.000 I am done after the corrupt and broken voting system.

00:22:21.000 And there's some other swear words after that.

00:22:23.000 Okay.

00:22:24.000 You see, it's interesting.

00:22:26.000 I actually assumed incorrectly that if you take time to watch this program, thank you, that you would also just automatically vote.

00:22:35.000 Turns out there's a fair portion of you that are completely done and that are willing to voice that opinion.

00:22:40.000 Do we have that Laura Ingram clip that we guys pulled?

00:22:43.000 And I just want to say, I do sympathize with being upset with the Republican Party and not totally trusting the system, but not participating at all guarantees the other side to be able to play games.

00:22:57.000 And if everything was broken and lost, how did we win the House of Representatives?

00:23:01.000 If everything is broken and lost, how did Ron Johnson, who stood up against the pharmaceutical company, win in Wisconsin?

00:23:08.000 If everything was broken and lost, how did Ron DeSantis win by 17 votes?

00:23:13.000 How did we win the House by getting wins in California and New York?

00:23:18.000 We won the House through Oregon, California, New York.

00:23:21.000 I'm not, I was in the movie 2000 Mules.

00:23:24.000 I sympathize with all of the sentiment.

00:23:27.000 Thoughts, actually, are not as important.

00:23:31.000 You can have very angry thoughts towards the system.

00:23:34.000 It is actions that I will instead address.

00:23:38.000 You could say, oh, this system is corrupt.

00:23:41.000 It's terrible.

00:23:42.000 I'm going to go vote.

00:23:43.000 Fine.

00:23:45.000 You've done the right thing.

00:23:46.000 You have not allowed your thoughts to manifest into what I would consider to be an immoral action.

00:23:53.000 Someone says, Charlie, I thought you were kidding when you said people weren't voting until you read these emails.

00:23:58.000 No, you should see.

00:23:59.000 I'm reading them on air.

00:24:00.000 And by the way, I'm tweeting out some of these emails so you could see them ourselves.

00:24:04.000 The MAGA movement is committing suicide in front of our very eyes because of, and if you extrapolate that, that means they're, and we see it in the numbers, we see it in the data, millions of people that have said, we are no longer going to vote because of cynicism.

00:24:20.000 And if you look at the sentiment, I share the sentiment, by the way.

00:24:25.000 When I went and voted in Arizona, I even said, boy, I hope this counts.

00:24:30.000 But I still voted.

00:24:31.000 It's the action that matters.

00:24:34.000 You can have the thought.

00:24:35.000 I'm not saying the thought is incorrect.

00:24:37.000 The question is: do you still go through what is the right thing to do?

00:24:46.000 There's many examples of this, by the way.

00:24:48.000 There's biblical examples.

00:24:51.000 You can have a thought against somebody that you do not like.

00:24:54.000 You can have a thought, you say, I don't like this person.

00:24:56.000 Do you still treat them well?

00:24:58.000 Do you still do the right thing?

00:25:01.000 It makes sense now.

00:25:03.000 I'll be very honest.

00:25:04.000 I've received more emails and real people that we've now double-checked that are exclaiming.

00:25:12.000 And there's plenty of you that are saying that I voted.

00:25:14.000 I voted, of course.

00:25:15.000 But it just takes a little bit on the margins, right?

00:25:18.000 So someone says, Charlie, I don't believe it.

00:25:20.000 700,000 that voted for Trump, but 200,000 did not vote for Herschel in the runoff.

00:25:24.000 Complete and utter nonsense because we cannot track each vote they will cheat.

00:25:28.000 No, I'm just talking about turnout in rural counties.

00:25:31.000 These are Republican counties.

00:25:33.000 They just didn't even check in.

00:25:34.000 They did not even show up to vote at all.

00:25:37.000 Laura Ingram has some choice words. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Let's play Cut 49.

00:25:41.000 You and I talked about this about a week ago.

00:25:43.000 We felt this coming.

00:25:45.000 To me, it never felt like the Senate Republicans wanted this guy in office.

00:25:52.000 He was a Trump pick.

00:25:54.000 They didn't like that.

00:25:55.000 They probably like him as a person, Herschel as a person.

00:25:58.000 But there wasn't the intensity on the part of the Republicans as there was on the part of the Democrats.

00:26:03.000 I felt it.

00:26:04.000 You felt it.

00:26:05.000 But we don't change anything.

00:26:06.000 We have the same people in place in leadership, same people in place.

00:26:09.000 Apparently, at the RNC, that's not, perhaps that's not changing.

00:26:12.000 We just keep doing the same thing over and over again.

00:26:14.000 I'm pissed tonight, frankly.

00:26:16.000 And you should be.

00:26:17.000 Sun Tzu in the art of war, of which the left is enacting the art of war against us.

00:26:22.000 The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.

00:26:26.000 You see, demoralization in the context of warfare is a process in psychological warfare with the objective to erode morale among enemy combatants and non-combatants.

00:26:40.000 And that's exactly what they've done.

00:26:42.000 No, it's even worse than that.

00:26:43.000 They have people, not all of you, but just enough.

00:26:46.000 You have to understand, Herschel Walker barely lost.

00:26:49.000 So all it takes is 50,000 there and 20,000 there and 30,000 there and 80,000 there to brag and to exclaim that I will not vote.

00:27:02.000 Someone says here, Charlie, I make sure I tell all my friends to stop voting.

00:27:06.000 It's just another point of action to a corrupt system.

00:27:10.000 You say actions matter, and I agree. 0.87

00:27:12.000 And I refuse to do an action towards these incredibly corrupt, self-righteous, vulgar leaders. 0.80

00:27:20.000 And there's some other swear words that I'm dancing around. 0.95

00:27:22.000 Okay.

00:27:24.000 So I disagree.

00:27:25.000 I think very clearly that in a representative system that we have that is based on consent of the governed, a 15 to 20 minute process to go fill out a piece of paper and put it in there and at least do the right thing.

00:27:42.000 It might get shredded.

00:27:43.000 It might not count.

00:27:44.000 But at least you've done the very basic minimum.

00:27:48.000 Democrats, I believe, have pushed forward a mass psychological warfare operation.

00:27:54.000 I see it in our audience, which is, we're going to defeat ourselves.

00:27:59.000 Sun Tzu, art of war, treat your men as you would your own beloved sons, and they will follow you into the deepest valley.

00:28:07.000 The Republican Party has failed so many of you.

00:28:11.000 The wrong way to react to the betrayal, to the backstabbing, is to then give the Democrats exactly what they want, what they would dream of.

00:28:25.000 The Democrats are celebrating.

00:28:26.000 They say, boy, did they make it easy for us?

00:28:29.000 They made it easy.

00:28:30.000 They just didn't show up.

00:28:32.000 And there we are.

00:28:35.000 And they cheat out in the open.

00:28:37.000 The machines, the sabotage, the ambush.

00:28:40.000 I recognize and acknowledge all of it.

00:28:42.000 We talk about it.

00:28:43.000 But the wrong reaction to that corruption is to disengage.

00:28:48.000 It doesn't send a message to anybody.

00:28:52.000 Somebody says this, Charlie, but then why did Brian Kemp win and Herschel did not?

00:28:57.000 Brian Kemp spent more money.

00:28:58.000 He was up against a terrible candidate.

00:29:00.000 And Brian Kemp worked the good old boys network in Georgia very well, county by county.

00:29:06.000 Kemp was able to get that good old boys network and there was an incumbent advantage as well.

00:29:11.000 And a lot of people split tickets.

00:29:13.000 They did.

00:29:14.000 The wrong reaction to evil is complacency and cynicism.

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00:30:22.000 Jeremiah 17, 9.

00:30:24.000 The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.

00:30:31.000 Jeremiah 17, 9.

00:30:32.000 Follow your heart.

00:30:34.000 Really bad advice, actually.

00:30:36.000 Don't do that.

00:30:38.000 So the question is then, the most important question is then, what should you do?

00:30:43.000 What we must do is improve and have a commitment to victory.

00:30:50.000 We have a critically important election.

00:30:53.000 And I'm going to tell you right now, there will be no voter fraud in this election because it's 168 paper ballots.

00:30:59.000 Well, I can't say there won't be none, but I don't think there will be any because it's rather transparent.

00:31:04.000 It's the election for the chairman of the RNC.

00:31:06.000 Are we going to be involved in that?

00:31:07.000 Are we going to say, I don't care?

00:31:09.000 That's a very, very important election.

00:31:13.000 This one right here, Sharon, all caps.

00:31:15.000 I'm never voting again ever.

00:31:17.000 Charlie, what is the point of voter voting?

00:31:19.000 I did in 2020 in My Voice, which is all I have was stolen.

00:31:22.000 To say, hey, look, we won there and there, don't give up is laughable.

00:31:25.000 The problem is that communism has already infiltrated every institution we have, including the Supreme Court.

00:31:30.000 Makes me sick to my stomach when you see the same politician, Lindsey Graham, saying we're going to fix this problem.

00:31:36.000 Or the same ones cheating, so what's the point in voting?

00:31:38.000 I'm done, Patriot Sharon.

00:31:40.000 Okay.

00:31:42.000 One after the other.

00:31:44.000 Yeah, they're flooding in.

00:31:45.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the MAGA base, part of the MAGA base is just going to stay at home and never going to vote again.

00:31:50.000 And that's why we largely have a Democrat Senate.

00:31:54.000 You know, there was a prediction that the Republican base was going to show up in big numbers.

00:31:59.000 And in some states, that happened.

00:32:01.000 Scott says, here's the reason why I'm not voting.

00:32:03.000 The reason I'm no longer voting is because for 20 years my friends laughed at me.

00:32:08.000 I kept voting anyway because I said voting is important.

00:32:11.000 Anyway, it's not about it.

00:32:12.000 Last two elections has been a long time coming.

00:32:15.000 My friends were right about not voting.

00:32:16.000 Elections are rigged.

00:32:17.000 I'm done. 0.96

00:32:18.000 Call me a coward. 0.90

00:32:18.000 I don't care. 0.90

00:32:19.000 I am done.

00:32:21.000 Okay.

00:32:23.000 Do you guys agree at that freedom at charliekirk.com?

00:32:25.000 Giving up?

00:32:26.000 I certainly don't.

00:32:28.000 And by the way, we saw that attitude materialize in that Georgia Senate runoff.

00:32:35.000 Yeah, it is depressing.

00:32:36.000 I'll be honest.

00:32:37.000 It is depressing to see a country that went from the greatest war mobilization against the Nazis and the Japanese after Pearl Harbor, storm the beaches of D-Day, lose tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people,

00:32:52.000 fight for every inch, liberate Europe, build the greatest economy the world has ever seen and the freest nation the world has ever seen, to just 50, 60, 70 years later, have a cacophony of thousands of people that are bragging, that believe that the communists shouldn't take over America, that are then bragging that the simple exercise of going to a voting booth and filling out a piece of paper is a waste of time.

00:33:19.000 Who needs communists when you just let them through the front door?

00:33:23.000 Charlie, you're missing the whole point.

00:33:25.000 Not voting actually sends a bigger message.

00:33:29.000 It does.

00:33:31.000 That's weird.

00:33:32.000 I don't think that's right.

00:33:34.000 This one right here: the cheaters on the left want the right not to vote.

00:33:38.000 Yeah, of course, that's what they're doing.

00:33:39.000 That's part of the whole strategy.

00:33:41.000 The strategy is to get you demoralized and to get you to no longer focus on this.

00:33:47.000 Okay.

00:33:48.000 I personally am not going to play into what I believe is a strategy of the enemy to get us to give up, to be focused on surrender.

00:34:02.000 I have a picture of Winston Churchill here.

00:34:04.000 We will never, ever give up.

00:34:07.000 We will fight on the beaches.

00:34:08.000 We'll fight on the landing grounds now.

00:34:10.000 I know the thousands of you that have told me that you're done and you're going to give up.

00:34:14.000 That's fine.

00:34:14.000 Just actually, it's not fine, but have a nice day.

00:34:19.000 Those of us, which they're still out there, I know you're out there.

00:34:24.000 We are going to keep on fighting for the future of this beautiful country.

00:34:28.000 Sunshine patriots, everybody.

00:34:30.000 There's a lot of them.

00:34:32.000 You want to know why you see things in Georgia and all that?

00:34:35.000 Just look right here.

00:34:36.000 People exclaiming and proclaiming from the rooftops, I did not vote.

00:34:42.000 And then you see, well, 700,000 conservatives said they had something better to do.

00:34:50.000 And then you get Raphael Warnock as a U.S. senator.

00:34:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:56.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:00.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:35:01.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 07, 2022

Halting a MAGA Movement Mass Suicide with Ric Grenell

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