00:00:00.000Hey, everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Dr. Gad Sad as we talk about mass migration, Muslim assimilation, the parasitic woke virus, and more.
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00:04:01.000So you said something in particular about Islamic mass migration.
00:04:06.000What about their cultural view or worldview is important for us to understand?
00:04:11.000Yeah, so I think probably the clip that you're referring to is I was discussing, I can't remember on which show, something that I have heard said to me in Arabic, because for your viewers and listeners, Arabic is my mother tongue.
00:04:25.000And so when they would speak to me, this was probably 20 years ago before I guess, you know, they would have recognized who I am.
00:04:32.000And when we speak in Arabic, many people would intimate the following, Charlie.
00:04:37.000The West is a woman to be mounted, right?
00:04:42.000So imagine how domineering that ethos is, right?
00:04:47.000So every single virtue that we think is to be laudable in the West, compassion, empathy, magnanimity, kindness, generosity, is heard in that region as weakness, weakness, weakness, weakness.
00:05:04.000And so you have what I refer to as cultural blindness, right?
00:05:08.000So not only do we not speak the same literal language, right?
00:05:12.000They speak Arabic, we speak English, but we don't even speak the same cultural language in that those things that we view as virtuous, they view as weak, pathetic, and hence we should be mounting the West.
00:05:25.000So how common is that phrase in Arab, I mean, Arabic, Arab circles?
00:05:30.000Because from what I understand, the Muslim world largely sees Christian charity as weakness.
00:05:36.000And we must remember that they are a religion of conquering and of taking over.
00:06:00.000Number one, we're going to conquer the West through the womb of our women.
00:06:05.000So this is basically we just outbreed you, right?
00:06:08.000And we know that in the West, most Western countries are not even meeting the 2.17 average number of children that you need just for replacement of the people who die in the society.
00:06:18.000So number one, we're going to conquer you through the womb of our women.
00:06:22.000Number two, we're going to conquer you through Hijra.
00:06:25.000Hijrah is the Arabic word for immigration, migration, right?
00:06:30.000For example, Muhammad through Hijra went from Mecca to Medina, right?
00:06:36.000And then number three, we're going to conquer the West by using your miserable freedoms and liberties against you.
00:07:09.000Europe is becoming a conquered continent.
00:07:13.000What drives a civilization to do this?
00:07:16.000Well, here we refer back to the parasitic mind.
00:07:20.000So for example, one of the parasitic ideas that I discuss in the parasitic mind is cultural relativism.
00:07:27.000Well, cultural relativism basically argues that there are no human universals.
00:07:32.000There isn't anything that is common across all cultures.
00:07:35.000You don't have the right, Charlie, to make a moral judgment about why other cultures might cut off the clitorises of five-year-old little girls.
00:07:45.000How dare you use your cultural values to judge another culture?
00:07:49.000So you can already see how that creates an impotence in your ability to say, I like these cultural values and I don't want any of these cultural values.
00:07:58.000Who are you to say that we shouldn't tolerate people who have genocidal Jew hatred, you know, enmeshed within the DNA of their societies?
00:08:29.000And so, I guess the question is: in massive numbers, have we seen any evidence that Muslims have been able to assimilate successfully with Western culture?
00:08:42.000So, if you look at the 1400-year history of Islam, currently today, we have the organization, OIC, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, which is an umbrella group of 56 Islamic countries plus the Palestinian territories.
00:08:58.000Each of those countries, once upon a time, had zero Islam, right?
00:09:03.000And then you blink and suddenly it becomes 80%, 90%, 99%.
00:09:09.000Now, in some cases, that transformation happens in two seconds.
00:09:16.000But once the process starts, you know exactly how it's going to go.
00:09:20.000Now, that doesn't mean that in every case, it's only through mass genocide of the indigenous population, although in many cases it is that.
00:09:29.000But the process is one where once a society becomes slightly Islamized, we know exactly the direction it's going to go.
00:09:39.000Egypt used to be a Coptic Christian country completely.
00:09:43.000And then it is now 90% Muslim and 10% Coptic Christian.
00:09:51.000What happened to the Christians in Syria, in Iraq?
00:09:54.000And what happened to the Jews across all of those countries?
00:09:57.000They seem to have all magically disappeared.
00:09:59.000So, it doesn't mean that once Islam comes in, it kills everybody, but it certainly means that once you exceed a certain tipping point, the writing is on the wall.
00:10:09.000And the writing is on the wall in the sense that we are watching the cherished West import our own demise.
00:10:48.000But not only is it a war cry, it's a cry of supremacy, right?
00:10:54.000If you had said Allah Gbir, it just means God is big, is great.
00:10:58.000But if you say Akbar, it's greater than.
00:11:02.000So the people who go to Oberlin College and don't speak a word of Arabic and try to lecture some of us whose Arabic is our mother tongue, hopefully they've been corrected.
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00:13:41.000So, that's what happens when critical thinking is completely erased.
00:13:47.000And what takes over is ideological rapture, right?
00:13:51.000I don't know if you've seen it, I actually posted it yesterday on my X feed.
00:13:55.000You see this kind of transgender guy or whatever, wearing a dress, and it says, Welcome, refugees, right?
00:14:03.000So, that's the famous, you know, chickens for KFC, and I call them geese for foie gras or fish for sushi, right?
00:14:11.000It is such ideological rapture that you lose your ability to instantiate your survival instinct, right?
00:14:19.000Let me give you just one quick example.
00:14:22.000In 2013, I think, Charlie, there was a Norwegian man who was raped in Norway by a Somali noble person, right?
00:14:32.000When he was put in prison, I think he only served something like three or four years.
00:14:38.000The Somali sodomizer was going to then be deported to Somalia.
00:14:43.000Well, the guy who had been raped, the native Norwegian who had been raped by the Somali, felt incredibly guilty and felt terrible about himself.
00:14:53.000That now, this sodomizer who sodomized him was going to lead a very bad life in Somalia.
00:15:01.000So, when you are the victim of sodomy and your first instinct is to feel bad for your sodomizer, it's the abyss of infinite darkness.
00:15:12.000Now, but Dr. Said, I will say on a positive note, I think everyday Westerners who do not have a doctorate or do not have master's degrees or have been influenced by such, no offense.
00:15:23.000I mean, obviously, you're against the academy, you know, homogeneity of thought.
00:15:29.000I think that Westerners are starting to wake up.
00:15:31.000It just, the only thing that is preventing the ceasing of mass migration, the only thing is that everyday Westerners need to withstand being called bigoted and racist.
00:15:43.000As soon as you get through that, then you can have your civilization back.
00:15:51.000And as a matter of fact, towards the end, one of the ending pages, I can't remember which page it's on, but in the parasitic mind, I exactly make that point.
00:16:00.000And that's why I have a call to activate your inner honey badger, right?
00:16:04.000Because it literally becomes the mechanism by which you lose any ability to speak out against anything, right?
00:16:12.000So there's a six foot four guy in the dressing room with your eight-year-old daughter.
00:16:19.000He has a nine-inch penis, but earlier that day, he referred to himself as Linda.
00:17:18.000I have no like moral qualms with that.
00:17:20.000I think racism and bigotry is awful and wrong against all people, even though they don't believe that.
00:17:25.000However, when it gets expanded to the place where you are not allowed to defend your home because you cannot violate the prime directive or the prime limiting belief, then maybe it's starting to enslave your mind and it's starting to actually be used against you.
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00:18:51.000Your thoughts on thou shalt not be racist as the kind of core operating belief of the West.
00:18:57.000That's that's what's making us impotent, right?
00:19:00.000In the parasitic mind, I talk about another, I mean, a related edict, right?
00:19:05.000When you say, you know, don't, don't, don't cast a judgment, right?
00:19:09.000As I believe it was Jesus who said it, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong.
00:19:13.000That doesn't mean that I should never judge others.
00:19:15.000It simply means that don't succumb to moral hypocrisy, right?
00:19:19.000Don't castigate others if you haven't had your house cleaned first, right?
00:19:24.000But that doesn't mean that human beings should not judge others, right?
00:19:28.000So, and that's what stops people in the West from because they learn that no matter what someone else does, no matter what some noble brown culture does, it is not for us to judge them because that would be imposing our values onto them, right?
00:19:43.000And so they become sort of this fetishized, you know, noble people that can't do any wrong.
00:20:08.000And so, we are seeing this in the states.
00:20:10.000I'll just kind of recite some of this.
00:20:12.000A majority of states in America believe that we should have mass deportations.
00:20:18.00078% of Texans believe that there should be mass deportations, 58% of Arizona, 62% of Nevada, 64% of Montana, and it goes on from there.
00:20:29.000Now, mind you, if you go state by state, the more left-wing or more woke or more mind virus-infected, Dr. Saad, they are, the less likely they want mass deportations.
00:20:42.000So, for example, you go to the state of Oregon, only 19% of the state of Oregon want mass deportations.
00:20:54.000Now, this is what's fascinating to me, is that Vermont and Oregon are some of the whitest states in America.
00:21:02.000This is not a racial thing per se, that the more white you are, the more that you want deportation.
00:21:07.000This is an ideological thing, Dr. Saad, which I think plays into our discussion here, which is that it doesn't matter the color of your skin, the mind virus is colorblind and it can infect anybody.
00:21:21.000And just to make it clear, while of course Islamic immigration poses a unique threat, I'm not pleased either when millions of people from Guatemala and Honduras and so on come in.
00:21:33.000Not because they're from Honduras and not because they have a lighter or darker skin you than you than you do, Charlie, but it's because why is it that when I went down to speak at the Steamboat Institute, which is a gorgeous think time, great people?
00:22:30.000You don't get to come into a country and say, please give me free stuff, while suckers like Gad Saad don't come into the country because they actually care about following the law.
00:22:42.000So Dr. Said, I want to go deeper into your book, The Parasitic Mind, which I think Elon Musk took your framing and your metaphor and has now popularized it to the woke mind virus.
00:22:55.000Is that fair, Dr. Said, that you were the first one to introduce this metaphor and now it is basically in the zeitgeist of our political discussions?
00:23:05.000And I don't know if you saw, there was just a Wall Street Journal article that came out.
00:23:11.000I can't remember the exact title, but it says something like, The Man Who Fuels Elon Musk's Nightmares.
00:23:18.000And while that man is the man that you're speaking to, and the reason why it refers to nightmares, because in one of the tweets that Elon had posted a while ago, he said, well, I read your brilliant book and it made me not be able to sleep at night.
00:23:32.000I was having nightmares because he realizes that this neuroparasitic framework is a real problem and we really need to stand together to save the West.
00:23:40.000People think that this is just some hyperbolic warnings that we're screaming.
00:24:12.000So Dr. Saad, explain and let's connect all the different parts here to our audience that doesn't quite think about this as deeply as you do.
00:24:19.000How on earth woke, upper middle class, hyper-educated college or originated ideas find partners and an alliance with medieval theocratic Islamic fascism.
00:24:33.000I know this is obvious to you, but to our audience, it's one of the number one questions we receive.
00:24:39.000Because both of these groups share a disdain for our Western classical liberal values, right?
00:24:47.000So they kind of united in their disdain for the West.
00:24:51.000But then the wokester don't realize that if Islam were to become ascendant, they would also be thrown off the proverbial rooftop, right?
00:25:00.000There's a great expression in the Middle East, which you may be aware of.
00:25:06.000It goes, I'm translating, it goes, first we come for the Saturday people, then we continue with the Sunday people.
00:25:13.000The Saturday people in this case is a euphemism, right?
00:25:18.000And then, so, yes, of course, the first guys that we get rid of are those pesky, obnoxious, diabolical Jews, but we're not going to stop there.
00:25:28.000We're coming for you next, Christians.
00:25:30.000And so, what do you see in terms of demographic realities in the, in the, in Arabia, right?
00:26:22.000And of course, it's just the obvious is that they'll also absorb the woke as well.
00:26:28.000I mean, the woke thinks that they can have a partnership in the disdain for the West.
00:26:32.000They will too be overrun, but it doesn't seem to concern them because they're so driven by bitterness for our way of life that the destruction of the West at all costs.
00:26:45.000Let's suppose you were someone who was very self-loathing as an individual.
00:26:49.000If you went to see a clinical psychologist, he or she would try to get you to gain confidence, to have a strong, non-fractured personhood.
00:26:58.000So at the individual level, you should not be self-loathing, but somehow the West has decided that the highest progressive ideal to reach is to be deeply or giastically self-loathing, right?
00:27:11.000Hence, this is why I mock by doing sometimes, I don't know if you've seen my clips where I self-flagellate, right?
00:28:05.000He once sent me a private message saying, Hey, God, how the hell is it that you survive amongst the incredible infestation of woke mind viruses in Canada?
00:28:17.000Look, our prime minister is a walking lobotomized manifestation of every parasitic idea that I discuss in the parasitic mind.
00:28:27.000And so then that trickles down, right?
00:28:29.000I'll give you an example from my own university.
00:28:32.000At my university, this is a major research university with, I think, over 40,000 students.
00:28:38.000So imagine it's something akin to University of Florida or Ohio State University, right?
00:28:44.000Well, as part of our five-year strategic plan, number one mission in that strategic plan is to indigenize and decolonize the curriculum in every course at the university.
00:28:59.000What the hell does that mean, Charlie?
00:29:01.000How do I decolonize and indigenize evolutionary psychology?
00:29:06.000How do I decolonize and indigenize the neurosciences?
00:29:10.000But that's the kind of ideological rapture we have, where a major university puts that as its foundational central mission statement.
00:29:27.000I mean, just what maybe I'm wrong, and you can correct me, but did like the Navajo Indians, were they figuring out the idea of zero?
00:29:37.000I'm not trying to insult them, but I believe that a vast majority of the mathematical breakthroughs that we enjoy here in the West didn't necessarily come from the great plains of the Navajo and the Apache.
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00:31:15.000It actually came, the idea to write the book is not something that I had as part of sort of my roadmap of book writing projects.
00:31:23.000It came to me because a lot of people, so after I had written The Parasitic Mind, people would write to me and say, how is it that you are able to tackle so many difficult, thorny, dark issues?
00:31:34.000And you typically seem to have sort of a twinkle in your eye.
00:31:45.000So, I thought, okay, well, if enough people want to know what my secrets to happiness are, maybe I can have the audacity of writing such a book.
00:31:54.000Now, the reason why I say the audacity is because, as you may know, Charlie, probably the singular topic that philosophers have most written about through the ages is how to live the good life.
00:32:04.000And so, I was at first concerned: can I actually write something that is fresh and unique?
00:32:09.000And hopefully, if I've done a good job, I did exactly that.
00:32:12.000So, I can, if you'd like, I can go through some of those.
00:32:18.000So, uh, in one of the early chapters, I talk about the two decisions that are most likely to either impart great happiness or great misery upon you: choosing the right spouse and choosing the right profession.
00:32:30.000If I wake up next to a person next to me in bed and I go, oh my God, thank God I'm up next to this person.
00:32:36.000Well, that's a good way to start the day.
00:32:38.000If I return to that person at the end of the day, well, that's great.
00:32:40.000And if in between that, I go off to a job that provides me great purpose and meaning, well, then I've cracked the code to happiness.
00:32:47.000Now, of course, the devil is in the detail.
00:32:54.000And so, here I do have some statistical, you know, prescriptions that can increase your likelihood of being happy.
00:33:01.000So, for example, when it comes to choosing the right spouse, in evolutionary psychology, there are two opposing maxims: there's the birds of a feather flock together, or the opposites attract maxim.
00:33:12.000Well, it turns out the research is unequivocal about this.
00:33:15.000If you're looking for long-term happiness in your marriage, then it's very much the birds of a feather flock together maximum that's operative.
00:33:22.000Now, flocking on which feathers, it's not that you have to have the same eye color or that you have to have the same nose structure, it's you have to share the same foundational values that guide your life.
00:33:35.000If I am very religious and my wife is a caustic atheist, well, it doesn't take a fancy professor to know that that's probably going to create fissures in our relationship.
00:33:45.000So, find someone with whom you share those foundational values.
00:33:49.000You know, physical attraction is great, but that wanes after 20 years.
00:33:53.000And so, you really have to share these foundational bedrock values.
00:33:57.000When it comes to the ideal job, I say that there are two things that are really important.
00:34:02.000Number one, anything that allows us to instantiate our creative impulse.
00:34:07.000You could be a chef, you could be an architect, you could be a stand-up comic or an author or a podcaster.
00:34:13.000All of those jobs offer you the opportunity to create something from nothing, and that provides most people a lot of purpose and meaning.
00:34:22.000The second thing that I would ask people to do, if it's feasible for them to do, is find the job that grants you temporal freedom.
00:34:30.000So, I work very, very hard and long hours, but I never feel like I'm working because I set my own schedule.
00:34:37.000If I feel like now, working on my next book for three hours, I do it and then I get the privilege of talking to Charlie Kirk and then I go off and meet a graduate student.
00:34:45.000So, the ability to kind of navigate and be a vagabond gives me great pleasure.
00:34:50.000Now, I understand that many people don't have those luxuries.
00:34:53.000Well, then, try to do them in your personal pursuits.
00:34:56.000Instead, when you finish work as a bus driver, instead of sitting passively next to the TV for six hours, you've always wanted to take a ceramics class.