Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, I have a conversation with Cal State Long Beach student Kilmar Obrego Garcia. We talk about MS-13, immigration, stolen land and much more! Recorded in Los Angeles, CA!
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00:01:32.000First of all, I just want to say I have a lot of respect for you, but obviously we just disagree on a few things.
00:01:37.000The main thing that I just want to talk about is the issue of immigration.
00:01:41.000And personally, I don't think it's a bad thing for America.
00:01:44.000In fact, I do think that it's an amazing thing for America.
00:01:47.000But mostly the thing that I'm trying to hit on is how many immigrants are being persecuted right now, including Kilmar Obrego Garcia.
00:02:01.000Before you respond, or before I even say anything, I just want to acknowledge the fact that we are right now on stolen land, and that we are on indigenous land, and that we are on original Mexican land right now.
00:02:15.000And for a lot of you guys that are Latinos for Trump...
00:02:50.000I'm just saying that right now, especially the things that we're taught in school, in public education, we're taught about the Alamo and how it was this amazingly patriotic act, though it was literally stealing a base from the Mexicans in their own land.
00:03:05.000I think that that's kind of the wrong angle to be looking at things, and that's why I really make it a point to notice that I'm on stolen land at all times, especially when we think about things like Manifest Destiny.
00:03:15.000Who did the Mexicans steal the land from?
00:03:17.000Actually, the Mexicans were there originally in Texas.
00:04:24.000So, now that the body cam footage has been released and everything.
00:04:29.000One, they were purely basing the idea that he was part of MS-13 on the idea that they had that he was...
00:04:39.000So they're purely basing that on the fact that he had tattoos and the fact that he had eight men in his car that were going to a construction site.
00:04:49.000Do you think personally that toothbrushes and toothpaste is purely the only thing that we can go on to gratify the idea that somebody is a human trafficker?
00:05:07.000The left's fixation on a wife-beating, child-abusing MS-13 foreigner as if that's the big fight that they want to have is so morally disgusting with so much suffering having.
00:05:40.000Let's go to the facts because you brought up the facts.
00:05:43.000Number two, what jersey did Kilmar Garcia wear on a routine basis and what was the significance of it in the Maryland jurisdiction of gang territory?
00:05:51.000He wore a Michael Jordan Bulls jersey.
00:05:52.000What gang wears Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls jerseys in the Maryland proper area?
00:06:39.000You have the fact that he told the judge in 2019, I'm afraid to go back to El Salvador because another gang will come after me.
00:06:44.000Allow me to finish without interrupting.
00:06:49.000Allow me to finish without interrupting.
00:06:51.000Number three, he wore the Chicago Bulls, which is a gang affiliation, in the Maryland area.
00:06:56.000Now, if you're in L.A. wearing a Dodgers jersey, that's one piece of evidence.
00:06:59.000If you're wearing Bulls gear day after day in the Maryland area, and you have MS-13 affiliated things, and you're telling a judge that you're part of a gang, and your wife has filed declaratory distress relief because you're a wife beater, and then finally the fact he's not an American, he broke into this country, and he does not afford the same rights that Americans are.
00:07:16.000I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but to sort of put that on you, right?
00:08:34.000In 2021, Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez-Zura, filed a protective order against him, alleging instances of physical abuse, including being punched repeatedly and scratched.
00:08:45.000She then filed a second order trying to protect the children from him abusing them on a nearly weekly basis.
00:08:52.000In 2019, Abrego Garcia was arrested in Maryland alongside of individuals.
00:08:56.000Authorities claimed repeatedly that were experts saying that the traits of his behavior, his iconography, and his tattoos were MS-13, such as specific clothing and tattoos, citing information from a confidential informant alleging from his gang membership.
00:09:10.000The judge agreed and signed his deportation order.
00:09:15.000Has he specifically stated that his tattoos were an affiliation of MS-13, or is that a narrative being controlled by the Trump administration?
00:09:32.000Trump did believe that he physically had MS-13 in the interview that he literally just aired a few days ago, where he said that he didn't believe that it was photoshopped MS-13.
00:09:42.000Because weed, smiley face, and how are the skull and crossbones and the cross going to be thought of as 1-3?
00:11:36.000So, obviously, Trump has floated around the idea of, quote-unquote, deporting homegrowns for, you know, the, quote, most horrible and violent offenders or whatever.
00:11:49.000So, how can we, as Americans, stop Americans from being persecuted by those, especially ones that aren't of white color?
00:11:58.000especially ones that are not of white color, because ICE has repeatedly, repeatedly been on...
00:12:05.000Like ICE has repeatedly persecuted Mexican-Americans and or just Latino-Americans for having tattoos and dark skin.
00:12:14.000How can we prevent people from being...
00:13:41.000They came in illegally, but my family did the right process.
00:13:45.000they overstayed their visa, they came on a trip but they did the right process why is it that we are simply only persecuting those that are coming in illegally and want to just live a normal Everybody's bringing up murderers, everybody's bringing up rapists.
00:16:00.000Again, going back to what we originally spoke about, the people that came over here were then given birthright citizenship, so that means that everybody here should not have birthright citizenship.
00:19:31.000Gavin Newsom would refuse to do this, of course.
00:19:33.000But in other states, after big school shootings, they have police officers parked outside.
00:19:38.000And in fact, school resource officers with guns have shown to prevent school shootings, limit school shootings, or even intervene before the school shooting happens.
00:19:46.000And it's going to show that these awful tragedies go from maybe one or two students dying, which is horrific, which it could have been 30 or 40 students dying.
00:19:54.000And so, again, at the fundamental core of it, which is your.
00:19:59.000Almost every single case of these school shootings, there are some exceptions.
00:20:02.000They get the guns from their parents because they didn't lock them up properly, and I think they should be criminally charged.
00:20:08.000If your guns are used by somebody else, that is, you are the custodian of that firearm, and you should have to have, especially if a minor gets it.
00:20:15.000And then number two, it's also these kids that are in a very, very dark and troubled place.
00:22:59.000You call Pete Hegseth a moron, yet more people want to join our military and they're happier fighting in our military with Pete Hegseth as head of Secretary of Defense.
00:25:44.000Because actually, according to the Supreme Court in 2019, if you come across the southern border within 14 days or 100 miles to the southern border, you can be deported immediately without due process because you're not an American citizen.
00:25:53.000According to the Alien Enemies Act, which President Trump invoked with Kilmar Garcia, there's no due process that is necessary.
00:25:58.000So, as I have said, you do not need due process for that if you are an illegal alien invader in the interior of this country under those circumstances.
00:27:53.000We're about to get no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security.
00:27:59.000So all of those things will work, and you're going to see.
00:28:02.000The opening of the American economy, unlike anything ever before, I believe we'll see the end of the Russian-Ukrainian war.
00:28:07.000I believe we're finally going to see no men in female sports, no chemical castration of kids, and he's already delivered on all those promises.
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00:32:43.000Then why do they have to give their information?
00:32:46.000So let's talk about their research and their data.
00:32:49.000I think the first thing that we should agree is that there is no bad data.
00:32:53.000Every data that we have is an increase in knowledge, and we can't have bad data.
00:32:56.000So it would seriously hurt the government if they give all of their data and all of their information to the public prior, especially on research and cancer and all this kind of stuff.
00:33:07.000Do you agree that the government wants, and this is what happens right now, they want to receive that data before the rest of the public?
00:33:13.000It is super important that the government receives that data prior to the public.
00:33:59.000So I'm assuming you're referring to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
00:34:02.000Well, yeah, because it's the student for fair admissions Supreme Court case, which I'm sure you're following.
00:34:06.000They are in direct violation of accommodating black and Hispanic students at the expense of white and Asian students, and they continue to push forward affirmative action, acceptance, and hiring practices, which is in defiance of the Supreme Court, breaking federal law.
00:34:20.000And when you break federal law, you should not get federal money.
00:34:23.000Okay, but the Trump administration has said that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and anti-Semitic practices have been the reason for the defunding of Harvard.
00:34:36.000Amongst many things, the strongest of all of the president's claims is the violation of the 14th Amendment and the Supreme Court decision a couple years ago, the students for fair admissions.
00:35:38.000When you defy the Supreme Court, you no longer get money.
00:35:41.000But at the same time, the Trump administration, by passing this executive order to count religion into the Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, that is going against the Constitution.
00:35:53.000The first thing I want to get to is can you agree that in 1964 they purposely, they intentionally did not include religion into Title VI, which is education.
00:36:05.000That's education as a whole, into the Civil Rights Act.