The Charlie Kirk Show - June 19, 2020


James O'Keefe | Project Veritas Drops Big Tech Bombshell


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00:01:26.000 Hey, everybody.
00:01:27.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:29.000 I am joined today by a friend of mine and someone who truly fights for the future of our republic, James O'Keefe from Project Veritas.
00:01:38.000 James, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:41.000 Great to be back with you, Charlie.
00:01:42.000 So James has been fighting more effectively, more effectively, I should say, than almost anyone in the movement for years.
00:01:50.000 He's been uncovering the lies of the left for quite some time through a variety of different tactics.
00:01:55.000 James, you have an ongoing series here on big tech and Facebook and Twitter and Google.
00:02:01.000 You have really uncovered some remarkable things.
00:02:04.000 Update our listeners and viewers on the work that you're doing to basically expose the bias within these very, very powerful tech companies.
00:02:14.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:02:15.000 We have a series right now, actually, on Facebook.
00:02:18.000 We're calling it Expose Facebook.
00:02:20.000 And these are whistleblowers who came to us from within Facebook.
00:02:24.000 Two of them on the record, one of them in the shadows.
00:02:28.000 And they're kind of giving us video.
00:02:29.000 They're giving us documents.
00:02:31.000 And the first installment of this was released today.
00:02:34.000 And the next two will be released next week.
00:02:37.000 Bias, censorship.
00:02:39.000 This one today involves a memo that was written by someone in the company outlining a policy to prefer foreign workers to American workers.
00:02:48.000 Facebook responded by saying this memo is not authentic, but in fact, as I speak to you right now, Facebook has suspended a number of their own user accounts and are kind of investigating the incident.
00:03:01.000 So what we have here is a bunch of insiders who are coming public in the coming days.
00:03:06.000 And you just happened to have me on the first day of the series, and you'll see more next week.
00:03:12.000 But this is a movement to expose tech bias and censorship, things that we've suspected to be true, but have never been able to confirm it.
00:03:21.000 And this comes on the heels, Charlie, of undercover work we've done into Twitter, into Pinterest.
00:03:26.000 We exposed Twitter saying they shadow banned users.
00:03:30.000 We exposed Pinterest censoring Bible verses.
00:03:34.000 We've done a lot of this sort of work over the last Google, Google's algorithmic fairness memorandum from a year ago, where they said they wanted to stop the next Trump situation from happening, if you remember that one.
00:03:45.000 So what we see is a movement of whistleblowers coming public.
00:03:48.000 We give them the camera, they record the fraud, and the exposed Facebook is starting today.
00:03:54.000 So James, can you Walk us through kind of the history of Project Veritas really quick, why you do what you do and how you do it.
00:04:01.000 I think that's also very helpful for our listeners.
00:04:03.000 Well, you know, Project Veritas is the nation's maybe premier or maybe only undercover investigative journalism organization.
00:04:11.000 We ferret out waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:04:13.000 We only report what we see on video, and we only report it if we can see the person's lips moving.
00:04:20.000 So it's very unique what we do.
00:04:22.000 There's a need for this sort of intrepid investigative reporting, and journalism is dead.
00:04:28.000 It's been dead for a long time.
00:04:29.000 It's broken.
00:04:30.000 It's broken politically.
00:04:32.000 It's broken economically.
00:04:33.000 So we believe that by recording these things, catching them in the act, maybe also by having people working inside go on the record and whistleblow, we believe that this is the thing that's going to help forge consensus on some very important issues.
00:04:52.000 And in this case, in big tech, people deny these things even happen, Charlie.
00:04:56.000 They say it's not a thing.
00:04:58.000 They say that there is no bias, that there is no intention to meddle in elections or get political.
00:05:07.000 So we have to kind of expose in an incontrovertible way that this occurs.
00:05:12.000 And the way to do that is to be the answer to the question: what can I do?
00:05:16.000 Now, Project Veritas has been around for 10 years.
00:05:18.000 We've done stories on Planned Parented, Acorn, National Public Radio, Voter Fraud, the Hillary Clinton campaign.
00:05:25.000 We've been doing this for over a decade.
00:05:28.000 It's just grown in a major way.
00:05:30.000 Yeah, and some of the most famous would be Acorn, when you actually got a government-funded, a government program defunded in a really remarkable way.
00:05:38.000 So let's talk more about the big tech issue.
00:05:41.000 Can you build out for us kind of what the landscape is within these tech companies?
00:05:45.000 How are you able to get these individuals that agree to leak this information to you, these insiders?
00:05:51.000 Can you walk us through however much you're able to fill in the gaps there?
00:05:55.000 It'd be really interesting.
00:05:57.000 We have this whole idea.
00:05:59.000 It's sort of such a revolutionary concept, but people on the inside giving us documents, giving us video.
00:06:05.000 The difference is there's nowhere else for them to go.
00:06:07.000 They can't go to the New York Times, Charlie.
00:06:09.000 They can't go to the Washington Post.
00:06:11.000 They can't go to BuzzFeed with this information.
00:06:14.000 They would be ratted out.
00:06:15.000 They would be smoked out.
00:06:17.000 They would be targeted.
00:06:18.000 So they come to us because we are willing to work with them.
00:06:21.000 We have assets.
00:06:23.000 We have journalists that we send their way to corroborate what they show us.
00:06:29.000 And what you're about to see come out in the coming days is videotape inside of Facebook, videotape of people and what they're saying, talking about specifically how they treat MAGA people, right?
00:06:45.000 How they target MAGA people and why.
00:06:49.000 So these are things that are on videotape.
00:06:52.000 It's not my word.
00:06:52.000 It's not my speculation.
00:06:54.000 It's theirs.
00:06:54.000 How do they do it?
00:06:55.000 They do it because they believe the public has a right to know.
00:06:58.000 They do it because they were inspired by other insiders, Charlie, like the guy who blew the whistle on CNN or the ABC News Insider with Epstein.
00:07:09.000 They're very inspired by other people doing this, and they decide that there's more to life than just making money and having a job.
00:07:16.000 They want to actually change the world.
00:07:19.000 So can you walk us through what exactly is happening with Facebook?
00:07:24.000 You mentioned something around H-1B requirements.
00:07:27.000 We've long suspected that these policies are in place, and also what else we can expect.
00:07:32.000 It's very infuriating to many Americans, these kind of preferential immigration policies to foreigners over our own country.
00:07:40.000 So can you walk us through kind of what's the thought process behind this tech series, why you're doing it, and also this recent policy document that was leaked?
00:07:50.000 Well, it's almost like I wish I would come on your show next week because we'd have the Hopefully I can come back and because I can't break the news of what we're breaking next week now, but essentially this is the first of three whistleblowers.
00:08:04.000 The first is coming out today.
00:08:07.000 He or she is off the record.
00:08:08.000 In other words, they're in the shadows, but they're not willing to go on camera yet.
00:08:13.000 But essentially, this is a document that says, quote, priority may be given to H-1B applicants from China and Korea.
00:08:20.000 This is a memo that was written by someone who we can confirm that it was in fact written by someone at Facebook.
00:08:27.000 Facebook denies the memo, but has in fact suspended, taken away various accounts from people inside Facebook who were responsible or involved in the memo.
00:08:38.000 So this was something written by someone at Facebook, Charlie, and we're still trying to get more answers from Facebook about this.
00:08:46.000 Again, the memo states, quote, priority may be given to H-1B applicants from China and Korea, and we confirm that it came from within Facebook.
00:08:55.000 So this is something called the diversity board that's in this memo.
00:08:59.000 And again, we're trying to get more information on that.
00:09:03.000 So we're still doing some reporting on this.
00:09:06.000 A very interesting developing story.
00:09:08.000 The next two whistleblowers coming out next week, like I said, to give you a tease, they're talking about targeting people for their politics.
00:09:16.000 They're talking about the algorithm that exists inside Facebook, Charlie.
00:09:21.000 So that would be, you know, the algorithm before it goes to content moderators, the algorithm actually selects automatically which posts are for review.
00:09:34.000 And that algorithm is itself biased.
00:09:37.000 It selects one type of political post more than the other, according to the whistleblower and according to their recordings.
00:09:44.000 And that's the sort of thing that we exposed next week.
00:09:47.000 Of course, they say none of this exists.
00:09:49.000 They're not political.
00:09:50.000 And they deny meddling in any elections.
00:09:52.000 And, you know, I think Facebook specifically, they believe that the ultimate reason why they need to do this is the results of the election.
00:10:02.000 That's something that they've admitted in 2016.
00:10:05.000 They say, quote, the results of the election indicate that Facebook has failed in its mission.
00:10:12.000 So it's something that they continue to do.
00:10:14.000 And I just hope that more and more insiders come out to us at Veritas Tips at ProtonMail.com.
00:10:20.000 VeritasTips at ProtonMail.com is where our insiders go in order to work with us.
00:10:26.000 We give them cameras and they tell us stories.
00:10:28.000 Well, it gives me a great amount of hope that people are actually doing that, that people are standing up and exposing these incredibly corrupt institutions.
00:10:38.000 Can you fill us in, for those that might have missed it, about the Epstein story at ABC News?
00:10:43.000 This is a videotape from Amy Roebach, who's the Good Morning America anchor at the Good Morning America at ABC News.
00:10:51.000 And she's on a hot mic talking about how ABC News spiked or squashed, that's canceled a story about Epstein in order to protect the British royal family and Bill Clinton.
00:11:04.000 In her words, that's why they spiked the story.
00:11:08.000 She was caught on a hot mic not knowing she was being videotaped.
00:11:12.000 It was a very compelling piece of video.
00:11:15.000 It was very strong and it kind of blew up on the internet, created all these memes about Jeff Epstein didn't kill himself.
00:11:21.000 In fact, Amy Roebuck says that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
00:11:24.000 So it was such an amazing story because it was the collusion between it was the collusion between CBS and ABC News to try to find this whistleblower that gave us the tape.
00:11:35.000 CBS News suspected it was someone within their own company that gave us the tape and fired that person, Charlie, when that was not the correct source.
00:11:46.000 So it was just an unbelievable nexus of power.
00:11:50.000 And then two months later, we broke this story on David Wright, who was an ABC correspondent.
00:11:55.000 And he was on videotape saying that he's a socialist and that ABC News does not give Trump credit that he deserves.
00:12:03.000 So we've had a lot of these hidden camera tapes come within ABC News in recent months, talking about their bias, talking about why they suppress stories for political reasons.
00:12:12.000 Again, nothing surprising to anyone listening, but it's always interesting when you can see their face and their lips moving when they say it.
00:12:20.000 You've come under lots of, let's just say, retaliation from the left, and you stand firmly against them and you stand for truth.
00:12:29.000 And it seems the more they come after you, the more that you expose them.
00:12:33.000 And from every, I mean, no one from the left is safe.
00:12:37.000 And, you know, James, I've known you for years.
00:12:39.000 And I remember a couple of years ago, I sat down with you in Las Vegas and I said, James, aren't you going to run out of content?
00:12:45.000 Aren't people going to stop talking?
00:12:46.000 Aren't people going?
00:12:48.000 And it proves that hasn't really been true.
00:12:51.000 It seems like the lips of, let's just put it this way, the lips of doing evil does not, they don't stop moving, right?
00:12:59.000 They think that they're very comfortable.
00:13:01.000 Yeah, I don't think that human nature is going to change.
00:13:04.000 It hasn't changed in tens of thousands of years.
00:13:07.000 And I don't think that waste, fraud, and abuse are ever going to go away.
00:13:11.000 I think they'll carry it more into the shadows.
00:13:13.000 I think people will be more careful about what they say and who they say it to.
00:13:18.000 But, you know, the Bob Creamer story, when I was in Florida, I talked to you about this.
00:13:23.000 I know that you sat next to Bob Creamer once, and you're from Chicago, and he's from Chicago.
00:13:27.000 And we got access to his organization, Americans United for Change, because we actually gave them money.
00:13:33.000 We actually went undercover and gave them thousands of dollars.
00:13:36.000 And then his lips just became loose.
00:13:38.000 And he told us about how it was Hillary's idea to put ducks on the ground and to do some of the bird-dogging, as he called it.
00:13:45.000 So what we have to do is we use pretty sophisticated methods.
00:13:49.000 And there's no one else.
00:13:50.000 I mean, no one else is looking into the things we're looking into.
00:13:53.000 No one else has the, frankly, the balls to do it.
00:13:56.000 I mean, to take on a trillion-dollar company like Google or Facebook and the way that we're doing it, nobody wants to touch this until I confirm it.
00:14:05.000 Nobody wants, I mean, in that story too, Charlie, no one wanted to break that story.
00:14:09.000 I had to break it, and then everyone covered it.
00:14:11.000 So I think the challenge for investigative reporters is you got to have to break news.
00:14:16.000 You have to be willing to be the tip of the spear.
00:14:19.000 As far as your audience is concerned, I know you have a lot of listeners, and I guess my challenge to them would be, which one of you are going to be the next insider?
00:14:26.000 How many of you have access to fraud, waste, and abuse?
00:14:29.000 How many, some of you actually work for some of these companies, and you have a conscience?
00:14:34.000 Maybe someone's inside Antifa right now.
00:14:37.000 And that's why we're doing this.
00:14:39.000 We want to be the answer to the question, what can I do?
00:14:42.000 People say, what can I do?
00:14:43.000 Well, you can put a little camera on your body.
00:14:46.000 You can work with us.
00:14:47.000 We'll tell your story.
00:14:48.000 We'll pay your legal bills.
00:14:50.000 I'm not sure there are many other organizations that are willing to do that.
00:14:53.000 I'm not saying all of you should do it.
00:14:55.000 I'm just saying one out of 10,000 should.
00:14:58.000 And you can find us at VeritasTips at ProtonMail.com.
00:15:02.000 That is how, Charlie, we found these two Facebook insiders coming forward on the record next week.
00:15:09.000 Going to be incredible.
00:15:10.000 And I mean, again, this is what the media should be doing.
00:15:13.000 This is what the media should be doing.
00:15:16.000 And they're not doing this work at all.
00:15:18.000 And so, James, the conservative movement is afraid to fight.
00:15:21.000 You were inspired by Andrew Breitbart originally to get into this.
00:15:25.000 What's your message to the conservative movement in general that just seems so reluctant to stand for truth right now?
00:15:31.000 My message to the conservative movement.
00:15:32.000 I mean, this is my message to anyone is follow your conscience and don't let being liked get in the way of doing the right thing.
00:15:42.000 I learned a long time ago, The same as Rush Limbaugh has learned that, you know, to be hated is a sign of success.
00:15:50.000 I didn't get into this to be hated.
00:15:52.000 I don't like to be hated.
00:15:53.000 Charlie, I'm sure you don't like to be hated by all these very powerful, glossy magazines.
00:15:59.000 I mean, don't we want our book reviewed by the New York Times, right?
00:16:01.000 Isn't that why we did this?
00:16:02.000 No, that's not why I did this.
00:16:04.000 I did this because I believe.
00:16:06.000 I'm passionate.
00:16:07.000 I care deeply about the cause of truth.
00:16:10.000 And I think that the scales of justice are tipped in the wrong way.
00:16:14.000 And I think our media does a terrible job.
00:16:16.000 And I hold our media in contempt.
00:16:18.000 And frankly, they disgust me.
00:16:20.000 And I think our world would be a lot better if we had a media that was doing its job.
00:16:24.000 So it's almost like someone should do that.
00:16:26.000 And that's why we do what we do.
00:16:28.000 That's why we're out there.
00:16:29.000 We have to do something.
00:16:31.000 But you can't wait for the Senate to do something.
00:16:33.000 You can't wait for the Supreme Court to do something.
00:16:36.000 I think there's some news out of the Supreme Court today.
00:16:39.000 We have to do something.
00:16:40.000 The citizens have to do something.
00:16:42.000 It's like, don't wait for the other guy.
00:16:45.000 It's like the lowest of the low, the salt of the earth amongst us, have to kind of rise up and be brave.
00:16:53.000 And that's my message is just all it takes is one.
00:16:57.000 All it takes is one.
00:16:59.000 And you've seen it in our career over and over again because of one brave or two brave people that were willing to step forward.
00:17:08.000 I'm really excited about where these Facebook stories go next week.
00:17:13.000 I do believe we'll get a reaction from Facebook.
00:17:16.000 I do believe they'll have to change their policies.
00:17:19.000 And I do believe it will incite, it will provoke, it will inspire other people to come forward to us.
00:17:27.000 I don't think that anybody is going to change anything but the average job.
00:17:33.000 I think you've got to get those, and I think they got to wear cameras and show people the truth.
00:17:37.000 And I want to remind people that we're living through the rioting and the burning that you exposed that was warned about from a Bernie Sanders staffer in Iowa, that if Bernie lost, they were going to burn down the country.
00:17:49.000 Tell us about that.
00:17:50.000 That guy's name was Kyle Gurick.
00:17:52.000 He was a Bernie Sanders field organizer in Iowa, and he told us that if Bernie Sanders does not win the nomination, that cities will burn.
00:18:02.000 That's what he said.
00:18:03.000 Cities will burn.
00:18:04.000 Well, he was right.
00:18:06.000 He's a paid staffer for Bernie Sanders' campaign.
00:18:08.000 No one in the media covered it, except all of the Bernie Sanders field organizers took down their Twitter accounts.
00:18:14.000 So the media has realized that the way for them to deal with our content is to ignore it.
00:18:21.000 Our job is to get the media to talk about it.
00:18:24.000 We do that by shaming them with the truth.
00:18:27.000 In this case, it did not shame them to have a guy praising Soviet gulags and talking about burning cities down to the ground.
00:18:35.000 So I think we have to do more, Charlie.
00:18:37.000 I think we have to catch them on tape committing massive voter fraud.
00:18:41.000 I think we have to find out what's really happening in the shadows, who's behind them, who's paying them.
00:18:46.000 So we did an Antifa series two weeks ago where we actually met with the national organizer for Refuse Fascism.
00:18:54.000 We spoke to him undercover.
00:18:56.000 His name is Andy Z, and he talked about meeting with Tom Stiers people.
00:19:02.000 That's a billionaire in California.
00:19:04.000 Andy Z talked about Refuse Fa.
00:19:08.000 His organization talked about taking money from George Soros.
00:19:13.000 This is their words, not my speculation.
00:19:15.000 This is all on videotape.
00:19:16.000 It's those sorts of things.
00:19:17.000 It's finding out who's behind him, who gains from this, and kind of more about the waste, fraud, and abuse happening and getting them in their own words.
00:19:27.000 And so if you just go, and this is kind of ties together Antifa and the tech companies, James, if you Google Antifa, here's what Google tells us Antifa is.
00:19:37.000 You know what's so sick is that tens of millions of people have no idea what Antifa is, and then they Google it, and this is what they find out.
00:19:45.000 Antifa is a political protest movement comprising autonomous groups affiliated by their militant opposition to fascism and other forms of extreme right-wing ideology.
00:19:56.000 Wow.
00:19:56.000 Who could possibly think that that's extreme, right?
00:19:59.000 So what else have you found out about Antifa, James?
00:20:01.000 And also, this ties into big tech, how big tech is manipulating thought.
00:20:05.000 I mean, it is almost as if we're entering a black mirror moment where there's a new reality being created, and you've exposed that.
00:20:12.000 Well, we went undercover in Antifa in Portland, Oregon.
00:20:15.000 This is the Rose City Antifa.
00:20:17.000 We went undercover in Antifa, New York.
00:20:19.000 This is Refuse Fa, New York.
00:20:20.000 And what we found were them training people how to do martial arts training, training them how to gouge people's eyes out was one of the quotes that we got in the PowerPoint presentation in Oregon, training people how to reframe an assault as, quote, self-defense.
00:20:39.000 That was a direct quote.
00:20:40.000 So if you're reframing an assault as a kind of self-defense, it's very irrational.
00:20:46.000 And what we uncovered was that these people were kind of just, they didn't, they were kind of French revolutionaries, Jacobins.
00:20:52.000 They were all about the coming insurrection.
00:20:54.000 In fact, the name of their book that they gave us to read was The Coming Insurrection.
00:20:58.000 So what was worse is that they were actually training people how to commit acts of violence just for their own sake.
00:21:04.000 So combine that with the money and where it's coming from.
00:21:08.000 And I think we have the beginning of a very big story.
00:21:11.000 Also, after we broke those stories, we had an insider come to us from within Antifa.
00:21:17.000 This is a whistleblower who's currently working with us.
00:21:21.000 And I believe this, I keep saying it over and over again because this is my pitch to you and your audience, because I know you have a large audience, Charlie.
00:21:29.000 Someone out there, I know you're listening and I know that you care.
00:21:33.000 And all you have to do is send us an email at VeritasTips at ProtonMail.com.
00:21:39.000 Charlie, one of our insiders, I believe, came to us by, was I listening to your show or Sean's show, but one of these guys actually said, yeah, I heard you on.
00:21:49.000 I heard you talking about your insider program.
00:21:52.000 This is the future.
00:21:54.000 This is absolutely the future.
00:21:55.000 The time is now.
00:21:57.000 There's so much at stake right now.
00:21:59.000 And I hope everyone is inspired by those Antifa stories.
00:22:04.000 And I hope that everyone's inspired by the Facebook stories.
00:22:06.000 Well, I know that there was two people that have been helpful to you that you recruited at Turning Point USA events.
00:22:13.000 And I do believe one of the insiders came through our podcast.
00:22:16.000 And so it's really heartwarming to know that the audience is making a difference there.
00:22:22.000 So they can email you at that email.
00:22:25.000 James, what else do you have planned from now to the election in the couple of minutes we have remaining?
00:22:28.000 You're usually pretty active exposing things.
00:22:30.000 What else do you have planned?
00:22:32.000 Gee, what don't we have planned between now and the election?
00:22:36.000 I can't say on the record precisely what we're doing, but we have, I would say voter fraud is a very big initiative.
00:22:43.000 This is something that they say doesn't exist.
00:22:45.000 It's always interesting to me when they say it doesn't exist.
00:22:47.000 Like Antifa is not a group, Charlie.
00:22:49.000 That's what they said.
00:22:50.000 Antifa is not a group, even though we met with their national organizer and they mentioned they were getting money from billionaires to fund training.
00:22:59.000 Between now and the election, you're going to look at big tech as a big story.
00:23:03.000 You're looking at other exposés of mainstream media, voter fraud, ballot harvesting, and politicians behaving badly.
00:23:11.000 If you recall our work two years ago with Andrew Gillum or Claire McCaskill, we're going to have undercover reporters and campaigns for Project Veritas action.
00:23:20.000 So expect a lot out of us.
00:23:22.000 Expect a lot next week with these two Facebook whistleblowers.
00:23:25.000 I'm really excited about that.
00:23:27.000 And expect it's going to get worse.
00:23:30.000 There's a lot of fraud, but we're out there and we want our citizens to be brave.
00:23:36.000 Want you guys to come public.
00:23:38.000 We want you guys to come to us confidentially.
00:23:42.000 We've never lost a lawsuit.
00:23:43.000 We've paid legal bills for every single insider when they've been sued, and we've won every single one.
00:23:49.000 And I don't think these companies want to bring more attention to what we uncover.
00:23:53.000 So I just hope that you guys come to Project Veritas and we'll tell your story.
00:23:58.000 Great.
00:23:59.000 Thank you, James.
00:23:59.000 Thanks for your great work.
00:24:00.000 We will stay focused on what you're doing, and I hope our listeners get engaged, get involved.
00:24:06.000 This is a critical time for our country.
00:24:08.000 And the people listening know what they can do.
00:24:10.000 What's the email again?
00:24:12.000 It's Veritas Tips at ProtonMail.com.
00:24:15.000 Very good.
00:24:15.000 All right, James.
00:24:16.000 Thanks so much for joining.
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00:24:18.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:24:19.000 You bet.
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