In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by Jason Whitlock, host of "Fearless" and host of the conservative podcast, "The Five", to discuss the controversy surrounding Texas Tech basketball coach Mark Adams and the Bible being used as hate speech.
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00:03:00.000Texas Tech suspends basketball coach for quoting the Bible.
00:03:04.000Not sure if you saw the story or not, Jason, but this Texas Tech coach is now on leave, university suspended, head men's basketball coach Mark Adams for quoting the Bible to a student athlete.
00:03:37.000It's being categorized as hate speech.
00:03:40.000And, you know, these young kids on college campuses have been radicalized and convinced that America's Judeo-Christian culture and founding are evil and at the root of everything that's wrong with this country.
00:03:58.000And it's why, you know, we don't accept the LGBTQ.
00:04:02.000It's why we don't accept transgenderism.
00:04:05.000And so I'm not surprised at all that a coach trying to reach a kid, you know, quote some scripture, and the kid in the school twists what he's doing.
00:04:21.000How dare you, you know, read scripture?
00:04:24.000How dare you read scripture that mentions the word slavery and context and reality don't matter.
00:04:30.000And then the corporate media gets involved and they call it racially insensitive.
00:04:35.000And, you know, when you can turn the Bible into hate speech, it really just speaks to, you know, what kind of cultural war we're in.
00:04:46.000And it lets you know who's really under attack.
00:04:56.000You can do some, let's just say, rather shady things in recruiting athletes nowadays.
00:05:01.000And boy, Jason, am I hearing stories of what coaches are doing now with the NIL stuff?
00:05:05.000I don't know if it's legal, but it certainly isn't, it certainly isn't moral, the things I'm hearing of vehicles and paid trips and parents.
00:05:12.000I'm sure you're hearing stories about this too.
00:05:14.000It's one of the most underreported aspects of college athletics right now is just the wild west of ethics with recruiting kids.
00:05:22.000But if you quote the Bible, and by the way, just the exact Bible verse that he was quoted about how the Bible calls us to be servants, it might not have exactly resonated with the student, but why is this a problem?
00:05:46.000Well, it's probably a problem because all of these young athletes and particularly black athletes have been convinced and radicalized that, you know, America's founding is evil and its founding is related to the Bible.
00:06:04.000And so you've got a lot of young black kids who have been convinced that Christianity is evil.
00:06:13.000And so I would imagine the kid that complained has that point of view.
00:06:18.000And how dare this 65-year-old white man read, you know, Bible scripture to me to tell me how to be a better basketball player?
00:06:28.000Don't you know that Christianity justified slavery?
00:06:44.000But they've been convinced that it justified slavery.
00:06:48.000And so, you know, as the coach, and particularly in football and basketball, a lot of coaches, particularly Mark Adams' age, get it into coaching as part of their own personal ministry to give back to kids.
00:07:03.000I'm not talking about now that he's the head coach at Texas Tech and making all that money.
00:07:08.000I'm talking when he first dreamed of being a coach, it was about, hey, I'm going to help kids.
00:07:13.000And I'm going to use this as a ministry to young men and help, you know, help them in their walk through life.
00:07:58.000He's probably frustrated with his playing time and being coached hard, and is now pretending like his feelings were hurt because someone read a Bible scripture to him.
00:08:08.000And Tony Dungy's been through a lot of personal trauma as well, a lot with his son.
00:08:19.000We're really living through the excesses of not just a secular, but a militantly secular society.
00:08:29.000And without any sort of core moral value, you have to have something to fill it.
00:08:34.000And we see that in sports because if you remove God from society, people are going to find some other fake and weird religion to fill that void.
00:08:43.000And that's why in the National Football League, they have the end racism stuff.
00:08:47.000They have the just nauseating commitment in hockey to the gay agenda, which I just, that one I can't understand.
00:08:54.000If you want to talk about a sports, you know, a fan, a community where it's probably wokeism is the least popular, I would imagine to be hockey.
00:10:04.000We are brought into this world, evil, need Jesus as our Lord and Savior, or we will not combat our wicked nature.
00:10:14.000And so I try to encourage people not to live a life of sin, but to not let your sins and failing silence you from speaking the truth about Jesus Christ and about anything, because they're really just trying to silence truth.
00:10:31.000That's how we have this thing with 72 genders.
00:10:36.000And, you know, you can't, that's people have been convinced that the police are out on this violent rampage, just killing black men indiscriminately.
00:10:47.000There's no one, black or white, that actually believes that.
00:10:52.000But there's a risk if you stand up and say, well, that's not true.
00:10:57.000The only people I will say that agree with it, Jason, is these delusional 19-year-old kids that I talk to on campuses.
00:11:04.000Sometimes it really is amazing to hear a black kid at UC Santa Barbara say it's more dangerous to be a black in America than any place else on earth.
00:11:14.000I mean, it's just so outside of reality.
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00:12:11.000I want to get your reaction to this back and forth.
00:12:14.000JJ Reddick, who I always enjoyed watching JJ Reddick at Duke, great player, called out Kendrick Perkins for suggesting that Nikola Zokic, Steve Nash, and Dirk Nowitzki only won the MVP because they were white.
00:12:30.000And now, mind you, I've stopped watching the NBA a couple years ago.
00:12:33.000I might watch the playoffs here or there.
00:12:35.000I didn't even know who Nikola Djokic was until somebody told me about him.
00:15:27.000He can't be an America first person because, you know, he has to hate Donald Trump.
00:15:32.000He has to hate anything that really supports America.
00:15:35.000And so he plays the race card and falls into that trap of instead of saying, hey, the NBA has opened its borders and is allowing players from all over the world to come in and play and they're now taking our jobs.
00:15:51.000He can't say that because we've bought into this global citizen.
00:15:56.000Well, and I'm just curious, though, Jason, I mean, why do you think that is?
00:16:00.000Why is it that, and it's so interesting, I haven't heard anybody say that.
00:16:03.000And I actually have no necessary problem with it.
00:16:18.000Why is it that our players are not necessarily dominating the league as much as foreign-born?
00:16:23.000I'm going to reduce it to the black American players because that's who has been dominating the GPA for 50, 60 years.
00:16:32.000Charlie, our family structure is in such tatter, is in such horrible shape that you just don't produce the same kind of kids that we used to.
00:16:57.000Again, as you see with Kendrick Perkins and Kendrick actually comes from a decent family, but he's part of a culture that celebrates ignorance.
00:17:06.000And so these guys don't think critically.
00:17:09.000The game has become more international and European.
00:17:14.000It's being driven by these advanced metric stats.
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00:18:34.000Jason, before we dive into that topic even deeper, can you tell our audience about the Nashville event you have coming up?
00:18:41.000Yeah, on April 14th and 15th, we're hosting the first Fearless Army roll call Event where we're trying to gather men and encourage them to bear witness to the power, grace, mercy of Jesus Christ.
00:18:58.000And because we believe, and my show was about promoting responsible men to rise up and take back leadership of this country and their community and their home, and that the only solution to this madness is a return to a biblical worldview and biblical values.
00:19:17.000And we have to stand on that regardless of the consequences, or we're going to leave young people, your children, your grandchildren, a world that you will not recognize in a world that you do not want them to live in, and a world that will favor the LGBTQ, the transgender.
00:19:36.000If you're wondering why the whole society is being set up to favor them, it's because as Christians, we haven't stood on our values.
00:19:45.000And so we're going to have good food, good music, a good time, hear some great speeches from guys I respect and try to inspire guys to live up to our biblical values, no matter how flawed we are, no matter whatever mistakes we've made in our past.
00:20:03.000It's time for those of us that are believers to stand up and to take the responsibility that God put on men to lead this country and to lead our families and to lead our communities.
00:21:01.000And so if men don't stand up, women are going to lay down.
00:21:06.000And I don't mean that in any sexual way, but I just mean they're not going to stand up and draw that line in the sand and say, hey, Ned, we're not having that.
00:21:24.000And if we don't encourage each other to stand on those values, we're going to continue to surrender this culture to people that are satanic, secular, atheists, just want to build a world based on feelings and not any kind of logic or reason.
00:21:42.000It's incumbent upon men to save this country, and it's incumbent upon men to get right with God.
00:21:48.000That's the only way we're going to leave a better world for these young people following in behind us.
00:21:54.000And when you don't have men, then women have to start to act like men and they do all sorts of other goofy stuff.
00:22:00.000And then really bad people can take advantage of both women and take advantage of children.
00:22:05.000And we're seeing that play out all across the country with the decline in testosterone rates, men stopping, you know, being men any longer, little purpose, very little purpose, very little understanding of their place in the world.
00:24:08.000I was going to say he even talked about the importance of men and working.
00:24:14.000And he went through this whole joke about how you know when you're in a good neighborhood at 12 noon on a weekday, if you got women in sweatsuits, walking babies, riding bikes, and just leaving the gym, you know you're in a good neighborhood.
00:24:30.000If you know you're in a bad neighborhood, if men are out in the middle of the day in sweatsuits, lifting weights, just leaving the gym and riding bikes, that's how you know you're in a bad neighborhood.
00:24:45.000There were so many different things he described in here from just a, and he didn't, he didn't say Bible.
00:24:52.000He never mentioned God or anything, but it was comforting to me to see a comedian basically tell jokes from a biblical perspective.
00:25:01.000And it gave me hope that, hey, maybe the culture is finally going to start pushing back and start doing things that are more in line with truth and reality.
00:25:53.000I mean, he really, he just, he nailed it.
00:25:57.000A lot of stuff that's getting attention is he slapped Will Smith over the Oscar slap and he went after Will Smith really hard, but he went after these corporations in a way that I just been waiting for a comedian to do this.
00:26:11.000And say, why do I care about McDonald's opinions on political issues or race, all the virtue signaling?
00:26:21.000And again, you mentioned the NFL, end racism, whatever.
00:26:26.000The NFL, no, guys, I want to see you play football.
00:26:31.000And that's a nice little slogan that makes you sound good, but it does nothing.
00:26:38.000And so, Lululemon, your little and people that put the little signs out in front of their house in this house, Black Lives Matter, and all this other crap.
00:28:24.000He didn't go as far as I would have gone and said, you know, and said, like, and the Bible will tell you that, that, you know, that's why you need Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
00:28:32.000But his whole point of view was consistent with a biblical worldview.
00:28:38.000And that's what we haven't been getting from comedians.
00:28:41.000You turn on any of these late night shows and they're all cracking jokes.
00:28:45.000If you're not a thousand percent on board with men pretending to be women and children cutting their breasts and penises off, you're the bad guy.
00:28:56.000Chris Rock didn't crack those kind of jokes.
00:30:09.000You could be in trouble over social media.
00:30:12.000People could, again, they can go hunt down whatever sin you may have committed.
00:30:17.000You may have quoted a rap lyric that used the N-word when you were 14 years old and posted it on Twitter.
00:30:25.000And so you better shut your mouth about the transgender issue because someone may throw that up in a news story and cancel you.
00:30:34.000It's a very clever, effective plot that these Satanists have put together.
00:30:39.000And again, that's why I just keep saying we as men have to show some courage and say we're drawing a line of sand and we're not going to be silenced and dare people to cancel us.
00:32:09.000I went 45 years, it feels like, without ever hearing the word transphobia, without ever knowing you could be transphobic.
00:32:19.000And so that didn't exist when I was younger.
00:32:22.000They've created it and they've thrown this, oh, you don't want to be transphobic.
00:32:26.000And so anything that they are for, they come up with some kind of negative word to describe if you're against it.
00:32:37.000And so the whole world is running around trying not to be transphobic and trying not to say, look, if you got a kid who's a boy with a penis who thinks he's a woman, that kid has a mental problem, not a physical problem.
00:32:54.000And you should address that mental issue.
00:32:57.000That's the way it was when I was growing up and for throughout most of the history of America.
00:33:04.000They've come up with a new reality that there's some kind of physical problem.
00:33:08.000And this all comes down to a do-what thou wilt mentality.
00:33:14.000Every man will do whatever is right in his own eyes.
00:33:41.000Don't say, well, it's here now because again, this Rachel Levine or Ralph Levine that's running around pretending like he's a woman and in the Biden administration, this stuff is crazy, but we're all being cowards.
00:34:00.000Many of us are afraid to say that publicly because, you know, there are consequences to that.
00:34:06.000And look, there are jobs in the mainstream sports media and just media in general that I have abandoned because I'm going to say what I believe.
00:34:19.000You're not allowed to say these things in the corporate media.
00:34:22.000That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make in order to stand with God.
00:34:28.000And if we're not willing to make those sacrifices, we're going to continue to surrender this country.
00:34:34.000And we have to remember the people that sacrificed their lives, their lives in the Civil War, in world wars, fighting for civil rights.
00:34:46.000And some of us don't want to deal with a little HR problem or some financial problems for standing on truth, biblical truth.
00:34:59.000And, you know, when it comes to this whole thing of sexualizing kids and all that other stuff, this is an issue.
00:35:05.000And I don't say this jokingly or I don't say it like I'm bragging, but this is an issue worth dying over because we're going to burn in hell for allowing this, for allowing the abuse of these children.
00:35:20.000And I don't even have children, Charlie.
00:35:22.000I just remember how great my childhood was.
00:35:25.000And I want other kids to have that experience, not this hyper-sexualized world that we're leaving them.
00:35:35.000Really quick, what did Jesus say that if you allow the predators to come after the infants, it's better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck and go into the deepest bowels of the sea?
00:35:47.000One of the harshest teachings, actually, of the entire New Testament is what happens if you allow the innocence of children, if you cause one of these little ones to sin.
00:35:55.000And that was a profound moral advancement, Jason.
00:35:58.000The idea that children are valuable and off limits, that's a Christian idea.
00:36:03.000And just my final thought, I've asked people all the time, abortion or slavery?
00:36:08.000I can't wait to hear God on what he thinks is worse, murdering children or slavery.