00:00:00.000Today in the Charlie Kirk show, I had a whole show planned, and then the breaking news happened with Michael Sussman, and I'm not happy about it.
00:00:06.000So we talk about the Sussman acquittal, and then we talk a little bit about Joe Biden's op-ed when it came to economics in the Wall Street Journal.
00:00:16.000Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:19.000If you'd like to support the Charlie Kirk show, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.
00:00:23.000If you want to get involved with TurningPointUSA, go to tpusa.com.
00:00:26.000Start a high school or college chapter today.
00:00:29.000I know I will see many of you at our Young Women's Leadership Summit coming up later this week in Dallas, Texas.
00:00:48.000Support the Charlie Kirk Show at charliekirk.com/slash support.
00:00:52.000Again, I love hearing from you and make sure your friends are subscribed to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast by opening our podcast app and typing in Charlie Kirk Show and hitting subscribe in the upper right-hand corner.
00:01:24.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:36.000Brought to you by Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage.
00:01:39.000For personalized loan services, you can count on.
00:01:41.000Go to andrewandtodd.com, the wonderfulandrewandodd.com.
00:01:49.000It's unfortunate these news items that pop up.
00:01:54.000I want to get into Joe Biden's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, but first, some breaking news.
00:01:59.000Michael Sussman has been acquitted by a jury of his peers in Washington, D.C.
00:02:05.000The Federalist wrote, quote, while prosecutors presented overwhelming evidence over the last two weeks that Sussman lied to then FBI general counsel James Baker in 2016, an acquittal by the D.C. jury still seems likely.
00:02:18.000Now, to give you an idea of how extraordinary it is to get acquitted by a jury of your peers, I believe it's less than 1% of all trials that go to, all cases that go to trial actually end up in acquittal.
00:02:33.000But Michael Sussman knew that he could navigate a Washington, D.C. jury.
00:02:39.000There were three Hillary Clinton donors that were allowed to be on the jury, one AOC donor, and Judge Christopher Cooper was an Obama appointee.
00:02:54.000Judge allows Hillary AOC donors in jury pool for ex-Clinton lawyers Russia trial.
00:03:00.000So Michael Sussman, who was accused of lying to the FBI, not just accused, we have the evidence.
00:03:07.000He said that he was going to go to James Baker on his own capacity when in reality he was being paid to do this, was acquitted by a jury of his own peers.
00:03:17.000This is a huge blow to John Durham, no doubt.
00:03:22.000It's a blow to all decency and justice.
00:03:25.000They're allowed to spy on a president, lie about it, use campaign funds to do it, infiltrate a campaign, all the while there is no justice and no accountability.
00:03:40.000Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, they all come under massive scrutiny by the federal government and have to experience the full weight of the prosecution.
00:03:54.000Washington, D.C. has 76% of their registered voters are Democrats.
00:04:16.000He was the chief architect who designed the entire scheme and the entire concoction against Donald Trump.
00:04:26.000Him alongside Mark Elias and Hillary Clinton and Robbie Mook and many others.
00:04:34.000So we're going to keep an eye on this story as it unfolds, which just goes to show the corruption and the depth of how insidious our system is.
00:04:45.000They would not want to indict a peer of their own.
00:04:49.000A lot of swamp creatures in the D.C. jury pool.
00:04:56.000The mountain of evidence that he lied to the FBI, a text message.
00:05:01.000Do you think that if Donald Trump Jr. or Eric Trump or Ivanka Trump, if any of them had text messages saying that they were going to go to the FBI and say, hey, I'd like to give you some information, I'm not being paid by anybody.
00:05:19.000It's in my own personal capacity, even though they were being paid.
00:05:22.000Do you think they would be convicted by a D.C. jury?
00:05:29.000This is very, very bad for our civilization.
00:05:32.000If half the country feels as if the government is going to target them for not minding their P's and Q's and dotting their I's correctly and believes that the government has been completely taken over, which it has been, by deep state malevolent forces with the intent of putting them in jail, and the other half of the country can just get away with whatever they want, it's not good for America.
00:08:43.000This is a, that's all fueled by the big lie.
00:08:47.000The Federalist wrote: The jury in the Michael Sussman criminal case resumes deliberations today after the long Memorial Day weekend.
00:08:54.000While prosecutors presented overwhelming evidence over the last two weeks that Sussman lied to then FBI general counsel James Baker in 2016, an acquittal by the DC jury still seems likely.
00:09:06.000Judging the success of the special counsel John Durham's probe into the investigation of Trump and those associated with the Trump campaign and administration should not rest on the outcome of Sussman's prosecution, however.
00:09:16.000In fact, even if the special counsel's office scores a conviction in its false statement case against Sussman, that would do very little to right the scales of justice, unbalanced by more than five years of the politically motivated abuse of power that began as Crossfire Hurricane and continued even after special counsel Robert Mueller issued his final report.
00:09:33.000They got away with it, and they're going to continue to get away with it.
00:09:37.000I mean, we were told to trust Durham, trust the process.
00:09:49.000The media is going to go after him relentlessly.
00:09:53.000I hope he continues, and we're going to hope that he continues his pursuit of justice.
00:09:57.000But as it is right now, you're allowed to lie to the FBI, spy on a president, infiltrate a campaign, use campaign funds to do so, and laugh all the way to the bank.
00:10:07.000Michael Sussman has been acquitted by a jury of his peers.
00:10:13.000Have you noticed that it's becoming more expensive to take care of your overall health?
00:10:16.000That's why I love my friends over at Centurion Labs.
00:10:20.000They've combined vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, copper, and QCERTIN in one pill to save you money.
00:10:27.000It's called the Centurion Defender, who defends all your immune systems against allergies, cold, the flu, and the Chinese coronavirus.
00:10:34.000Who knows when the next wave will hit, and we want your immune system to be prepared.
00:10:37.000All you have to do is take the defender with breakfast and one defender with dinner and keep living your life.
00:10:42.000Now is the time to defend your health, your save money, and support a company that shares Christian values and loves this country.
00:10:49.000Check out Centurion's website, and they have all kinds of health supplements.
00:10:53.000Whether you're struggling to get pregnant, desire a healthy pregnancy, need a cough medicine to get you back to work, wish to have an energy drink that is actually healthy for you, or want to defend your overall health, Centurion can help.
00:11:04.000They have dedicated the last 15 years to research to develop a safe, effective, and affordable product made in America that you can trust.
00:11:10.000For a limited time, Kirk listeners can save 20% off their first order of Defender when you go to centurionlabs.com/slash Kirk and use promo code Kirk.
00:11:43.000Had hoped multiple times in conversations with the great Kash Patel that something was going to result in this, and there would be indictments and convictions.
00:11:51.000And you cannot have a country where the everyday person believes that if you think the wrong things, then you have a higher and more likely chance to go to prison.
00:12:03.000Michael Sussman got to get out of jail free card because he was a Clinton lawyer, not a Trump lawyer.
00:12:31.000I mean, he has no credibility after this.
00:12:33.000I mean, he might be able to recalibrate and continue forward and do a couple more indictments.
00:12:37.000But when you bring a very simple case to trial and you lose, I mean, it's a massive blow to your operation as a prosecutor.
00:12:47.000This was supposed to be the easy one, by the way.
00:12:49.000This was supposed to be the one that you build the case on, you get him convicted, and then maybe between sentencing, you're able to get some negotiation.
00:13:04.000Hillary Clinton is cackling right now.
00:13:08.000Robbie Mook is enjoying some sort of fruity drink on the beach of Spain, wherever he had to go, where he told the judge he had to travel to.
00:13:48.000Forget Andy McCabe or James Comey or Peter Strzzok.
00:13:52.000If you can't win the Sussman one, well, then you can't build the larger, more important case of criminal conspiracy, of abuse of power, all these other types of charges begin to fall apart.
00:14:11.000So Michael Sussman was the Clinton campaign operative lawyer, who then, by the way, could just casually call up the general counsel at the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, like, hey, I want a meeting.
00:14:24.000And by the way, nothing I'm about to tell you, I'm being paid for, even though he was being paid for it.
00:14:30.000It was a direct and blatant lie to the Bureau.
00:14:35.000But the jury pool acquitted him because they said, oh, look at this poor man who's going to go to jail.
00:14:39.000He was just trying to save us from the carnage that was Donald Trump.
00:14:46.000The D.C. jury pool was probably not weighing the facts and the circumstances.
00:14:55.000This is not an attack on Durham, but it's kind of hard to believe how you could bring a case to trial that is this bulletproof and it still gets acquitted.
00:15:09.000And Durham is proving that the entire collusion hoax was a Hillary Clinton enterprise, but now there's going to be an asterisk on this every time we tell the story.
00:15:17.000I'm like, oh, well, this is a conspiracy because when it was brought to trial, he was acquitted.
00:15:22.000Now, you might remember Bob Mueller brought one Democrat to trial.
00:15:28.000And that Democrat was one of the general counsels for Obama on a FARA violation, a federal, a foreign agent registration act violation.
00:15:38.000And you know, that was the only case that Bob Mueller lost.
00:15:41.000It's the only case the Mueller team was not able to bring to conviction.
00:15:44.000When you go to trial in a D.C. jury and you're one of them, it sure feels as if, and it seems like, there's a wink and a nod.
00:16:08.000If half the country believes there is no justice system, of which I believe currently, I do not believe there is a justice system for the ruling elite.
00:16:16.000I believe currently, cynically, and I will be very honest with you, that if you are part of the Democrat Party, next to murder, drive-by shootings, well, arson, you don't actually go to jail for, looting you don't go to jail for, I don't really know if you'll ever be held accountable.
00:16:36.000But if you are on the right in this country, if you go take a selfie in the Capitol Rotunda, if your name is Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, if you're Paul Manafort or Roger Stone, if you're a major Republican donor, they're going to put everything they can at you.
00:16:51.000And not only that, when you're in front of that D.C. jury pool, you stand no shot.
00:17:04.000Hey, everybody, this common sense is brought to you by the folks at secondvote.com, amazing people who are fighting back against world corporations.
00:17:11.000Subscribe now at secondvote.com, promo code Charlie.
00:17:18.000We've had uniquely American common sense since 1776, but now we're in the era of common nonsense.
00:17:24.000Today's nonsense comes from our inflater-in-chief, Joe Biden.
00:17:28.000As higher prices grip the country, Washington elitists want to blame everything except their own actions, from COVID to supply chains to Putin.
00:17:37.000The truth is that we have inflation because of the left's socialist agenda.
00:17:41.000Free money in the form of benefits means too many dollars chasing too few goods.
00:17:46.000The left's war on oil and gas makes energy scarce, and their fuel mandates hike the cost of diesel, which means everything you buy at the grocery store is more expensive.
00:17:55.000Companies go along with this because of socialist ESG investing.
00:17:59.000This is when liberal fund managers like Fidelity and BlackRock use your hard-earned retirement dollars to pressure American companies into supporting liberal policies.
00:18:08.000And these companies aren't just bad actors when it comes to your investment dollars.
00:18:12.000They also take the money you spend to give it to liberal causes, just like Starbucks.
00:18:16.000They give their customers money to organizations like Black Lives Matter and Planned Parenthood.
00:19:07.000Okay, we're going to keep on going through this Durham story.
00:19:12.000I mean, look, the judge, John Durham didn't push for accusal of Judge Chris Cooper, even though Michael Sussman was friends with the judge.
00:19:22.000Judge Cooper's wife represented former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
00:19:28.000The judge and his wife were married by Merrick Garland, and Cooper was appointed by Obama.
00:19:35.000It is rigged top to bottom, everybody.
00:19:37.000It is just a disease temple, a cesspool of corruption.
00:19:41.000That's not a good thing for people to believe about their government or their capital.
00:19:46.000The country is fracturing in front of our very eyes.
00:19:52.000Yeah, I mean, we were just texting with Kash Patel.
00:19:56.000He said, basic points, I was the last man to have any faith in D.C., in the Department of Justice.
00:20:17.000So that's a joke for all of you out there.
00:20:20.000We're actually taken very literally and will be prosecuted maliciously.
00:20:25.000For those of us that love the country and that are patriots, for those of you that are patriots out there for the rest of your life, let it be a message to you.
00:20:33.000If you get too popular, if you get too rich, you will be targeted by your government.
00:20:38.000Michael Sussman got paid to fleece the country.
00:20:41.000He got paid by a campaign to lie to America, dragged this country through the mud for four years, through the lie of Bob Mueller, the lie of Alphabank, all of that, and then gets away with it.
00:20:55.000That is the belief of most D.C. Democrats.
00:20:58.000Those jurors are smiling and chuckling to themselves like, boy, we got back at Trump this way.
00:21:04.000They did this to obliterate the Trump presidency based on a total categorical fabrication, a lie, a fiction, a creation of one's imagination for the sole intent purpose of destroying Donald Trump.
00:21:19.000And one of the people that lied to the FBI, that put our country through that madness, we can't even get him on a technical crime that he so obviously committed.
00:21:34.000Now, jurors don't have to explain their decision, guilty or not guilty, that's it.
00:21:38.000But you got to wonder what their explanation would be.
00:21:43.000We do not have a justice system anymore in our country when it comes to the top levels.
00:21:46.000There might be a justice system for still for murder and for rape and for things on a local or county level, but at the top levels, to be able to hold the ruling class accountable, and just let me be very honest.
00:21:58.000If you do not have a system to hold your rulers accountable, well, then you don't have a system.
00:22:52.000But we do know that Donald Trump has been investigated by the New York Attorney General and the Manhattan Attorney General or the District Attorney relentlessly for years.
00:23:01.000We know that every single Republican gets under massive scrutiny from the federal government.
00:23:09.000But all there was, there was just one request.
00:23:11.000Can we hold some of the people accountable that put our country through the mud, through the dirt, so make sure it doesn't happen again?
00:23:19.000The demand and the thirst and the appetite for justice amongst the conservative base has been extraordinary because they see their allies, they see their team members, they see their fellow patriots get indicted and get cross-examined and not just cross-examined, their lives ruined.
00:23:41.000And Michael Sussman walks away freely.
00:23:50.000The problem for Durham is the jury and the judge.
00:23:53.000I mean, he's facing a jury that has three Clinton donors, an AOC donor, and a woman whose daughter is on the same sports team with Sussman's daughter.
00:24:03.000I mean, the exception of randomly selecting people out of the DNC headquarters, you could not come up with a worse jury.
00:24:09.000Welcome to Washington, D.C. All right.
00:24:12.000Jonathan Turley, as always, thank you.
00:24:20.000How did John Durham put up with that, by the way?
00:24:22.000Why didn't John Durham say, Your Honor, you can't be on a jury trying to judge about Hillary Clinton, trying to rule on Hillary Clinton-related activities if you yourself were giving money financially to support Hillary Clinton?
00:24:38.000I don't know why John Durham put up with that.
00:24:41.000We were told for years that justice was coming, and we were cynical and we were skeptical.
00:24:46.000Now, what is the path forward with this?
00:25:06.000It's Joe Biden's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.
00:25:09.000Joe Biden, my plan for fighting inflation.
00:25:12.000This signals panic at the White House over the coming midterm elections as Joe Biden tries to pivot and tries to convince people that everything's actually terrific.
00:26:04.000But the American people should have confidence that our economy faces these challenges from a position of strength.
00:26:10.000In January of 2021, when I took office, the recovery had stalled and COVID was out of control.
00:26:15.000In less than a year and a half, my administration's economic and vaccination plans helped achieve the most robust recovery in modern history, Joe Biden writes.
00:26:24.000The job market is the strongest since the post-World War II era, right?
00:26:53.000It is a common characteristic of a liberal elitist.
00:26:57.000Lecturing, they're the best at lecturing.
00:27:00.000But if you read this here, it's this long, meandering, overly academic argument that Joe Biden obviously didn't write, lecturing people about esoteric economic data, which actually in reality causes more anger and more dissension and more frustration.
00:27:21.000And so basically, they're kind of waving their wand being like, stop complaining, okay?
00:27:26.000Didn't you know that monthly average job creation ships in the next year from current levels to half a million to something closer to 150,000?
00:27:35.000So one of his arguments is about unemployment.
00:27:38.000Now, unemployment is a terrific metric at times of being able to judge economic success, but it's not the entire economy.
00:29:31.000We're going to keep going through Joe Biden's ridiculous op-ed here where he just kind of points his finger at you and says, don't you understand how good things are?
00:30:31.000You have something that's closer to kind of a more industrialized caste system is the best way to kind of describe it, where you have a group of people at the top of your society that are the rulers and the ruled.
00:30:50.000And so you have an entire inversion of the society that was originally designed where we want to live in a country where the many rule the few.
00:30:59.000They want to live in a country where the few rule the many.
00:31:04.000What happens when the few step out of line?
00:31:06.000What happens when the few use their power and abuse their power in such an egregious and transparent way?
00:31:16.000Well, the founding fathers wanted to make it clear that anybody could go to jail, that anybody could be held accountable.
00:31:25.000This was a promise of a constitutional form of government.
00:31:28.000If you don't have that form of government, you live in an autocracy or a dictatorship or in some form of a kind of combination of those factors.
00:31:40.000The idea that no one is off limits keeps the ruling class on their toes.
00:31:46.000It makes them hopefully behave a little bit more ethically.
00:31:48.000They're always going to be corrupt, but the idea that anyone could go to jail at any time hopefully has kept this country on the straight and narrow.
00:32:01.000How many decades has it been now where the same groups of people, the same families of people, from the Clintons to the Obamas to the Clinton Associates, they are untouchable, which is hilarious because in the caste system in India, the untouchables are the people at the lowest level.
00:32:20.000They're the ones that you just stay away from.
00:32:22.000Where in this current metaphor, the untouchables are actually at the top because they are untouchable by the law.
00:32:29.000There's nothing you can do that can trip them up.
00:33:19.000Equal treatment under the law is a promise of the United States Constitution.
00:33:22.000That is a foreign concept in the kingdom of Washington, D.C.
00:33:28.000They are, they currently have January 6th defendants as political prisoners, and Michael Sussman can walk free.
00:33:37.000If you are wearing the wrong hat, vote for the wrong guy, or believe the wrong things, that means you have a higher likelihood to go to jail, be targeted by your government, audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
00:33:56.000We are living in an open-air police state.
00:34:23.000But the grandmother that walked into the Capitol Rotunda that took a selfie on January the 6th, jail and called a felon the rest of her life.
00:34:31.000Michael Flynn, targeted, and no one who targeted Michael Flynn has been held accountable.
00:34:36.000The two-tier justice system is alive and well, and I do not have good news to share.
00:34:41.000Not that it's going to get better and all this.
00:34:42.000Nope, this is a seemingly intractable problem, and I'm open for recommendations and suggestions on how to fix it, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
00:34:50.000Thank you so much for listening, everybody.