The Charlie Kirk Show - September 23, 2026


NEVER Blackpill + ICE vs. Illegals

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The Left's Coup d'Etat Fantasies + What Drives a GOP Backstabber?

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00:01:17.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:18.000 It is September 23rd, 2026.
00:01:21.000 We're here in Phoenix, Arizona at the Y Refi Studios, and we're getting started with a bang here.
00:01:27.000 You know, life is full of surprises, Blake Neff, and I think.
00:01:32.000 Fascinating developments.
00:01:33.000 Fascinating developments.
00:01:34.000 I will tell you, Parker Sig, the Executive Vice President over Real America's Voice, is going to join us.
00:01:40.000 Right now, along with Jack Pasobic, both from the East Coast.
00:01:43.000 So, we're going coast to coast here, gentlemen.
00:01:46.000 And when I say life is full of surprises, Parker Sig, I can only imagine that you have internalized that in a very deep and profound way.
00:01:55.000 Right now, in this very moment, the pool feed for the White House, the most important, powerful office in the land, in all the world, is being supplied by our friends here at this amazing network.
00:02:09.000 Parker Sig, why don't you tell us about this?
00:02:13.000 How did this happen?
00:02:15.000 How did you find out about it?
00:02:16.000 What have you been doing with your life the last couple of days?
00:02:19.000 The floor is yours, my friend.
00:02:20.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:02:22.000 Well, thanks, Andrew and Blake, for having me on to talk about this development.
00:02:27.000 It certainly is a remarkable course of events.
00:02:32.000 I can't say that it's super shocking, given the nature and the tension inside of the press corps at the White House.
00:02:42.000 And I think it certainly is a well needed.
00:02:46.000 Adjustment and change.
00:02:47.000 And I think it'll open the eyes of a lot of people, both in the media and in the public, that free press is still alive and well.
00:02:57.000 And people like Real America's Voice are ready to carry that torch across the finish line.
00:03:02.000 And so, how this came about, you know, kind of honestly, it kind of came about the same way it did for a lot of people, a little bit by surprise.
00:03:12.000 You know, it really started out with a late middle of the night phone call for a last minute request.
00:03:18.000 To deploy resources over to New York traveling with the president.
00:03:24.000 And of course, as we always do, RAV is ready to go at a moment's notice.
00:03:30.000 So we did exactly that.
00:03:31.000 We deployed a camera operator, a correspondent to DC, got him in place to get on the plane with the president and travel and do exactly what we do best, which is provide full and complete, unfeathered coverage of the president and everything that he and this administration does.
00:03:52.000 And I think we've done.
00:03:53.000 Excellent, excellent job at doing that so far.
00:03:57.000 And the last 24, 48 hours for me has been a little bit of a whirlwind.
00:04:02.000 Tons of calls from media and other individuals, not only asking for, like you just did, the story behind what's happening and how this happened, but then asking for what's next and how do we get access to this coverage, to these feeds.
00:04:19.000 Because as we've said publicly and will continue to say and hold up, our goal here is to make sure that we can provide constant, Unadulterated coverage of everything that the president and this administration is doing through the truthful lens.
00:04:42.000 And that's what we're going to do.
00:04:44.000 And I think we've been prepared to do this since day one.
00:04:48.000 We have the infrastructure in order to do it, we have the personnel in order to do it.
00:04:53.000 I think we all kind of knew there was a moment in time as President Trump got back into the White House that this was kind of a ticking time bomb, so to speak.
00:05:04.000 With the mainstream media and the admin, and then obviously the components of the independent media.
00:05:12.000 So we've been prepared since day one.
00:05:14.000 And again, we're excited to be able to take the torch, carry it on, as Steve Bannon says, be the next man up.
00:05:22.000 And that's what we do best.
00:05:25.000 Yeah.
00:05:26.000 I totally agree.
00:05:27.000 Jack Basobic, I want to bring you in here.
00:05:29.000 Host of Human Events Daily, it comes on immediately after this show, and you're doing a great job, Jack.
00:05:36.000 Something Parker said, two things actually.
00:05:38.000 Parker Sig, Executive Vice President of Real America's Voice, that he thinks this is going to shake it up.
00:05:44.000 This is actually a good thing for the country to see that these press are not this priestly class, that only they can do this job.
00:05:52.000 All of a sudden, they come in and they handle the job and they're doing a great job.
00:05:56.000 And by the way, it's not propaganda.
00:05:57.000 They're just providing this feed, unadulterated feed, so everybody can see it.
00:06:02.000 And that this is going to shake things up.
00:06:03.000 But it's also been a ticking time bomb, is something that Parker said.
00:06:06.000 Can you expound on your perspective of this?
00:06:08.000 Because you're always covering the White House, you're always on the grounds, you're traveling.
00:06:12.000 With this administration.
00:06:14.000 Explain what he might mean by that.
00:06:16.000 Well, so what's going on here, Andrew, is that what Parker's done and what Real Marker's Voice have done is so phenomenal because what it's done is show that the mainstream media cartel doesn't have the leverage that they used to have over the White House.
00:06:31.000 If you go back 30 years ago, the 1990s, and I've seen a number of people who are sort of from that dinosaur era of the blockbuster video era, if you will, of media, where they think that.
00:06:44.000 Broadcast TV is the only way that people can get their news out and newspapers and all the rest.
00:06:51.000 They don't seem to understand that new media has the ability to completely disintermediate their power and their leverage.
00:06:57.000 That's why the cartelization of these groups, the control access to the White House and specifically the White House pool, which is a smaller pool, and they're playing a lot of nomenclature games, a smaller pool of people.
00:07:09.000 Those are the ones that get to have access to the president, to cabinet members, to the vice president, to be able to ask questions.
00:07:15.000 And of course, we saw this under Caroline Levitt and Trump's.
00:07:18.000 New White House coming in is specifically in the second term, although they were good in the first term.
00:07:22.000 The second term created that new media seat, which, of course, I've been honored to be utilized in many times to go along with the president on a variety of these trips.
00:07:32.000 I was up there in the United Nations.
00:07:33.000 I wasn't in the pool on that, but I was covering it on Monday.
00:07:38.000 And the idea that they would drop this coverage, which is in the public interest, the public has a right to know what the president is doing when he's meeting with Zelensky, and Rav covered that.
00:07:47.000 The public has a right to see what the president says when he's going to meet Xi Jinping.
00:07:51.000 This very evening at Andrews Air Force Base, and Rav is going to cover that as well.
00:07:56.000 Anything the president's doing, if it's open to the press, the public has a right to know.
00:08:00.000 So that's in the public interest.
00:08:02.000 And the media, this is how the broadcast networks had so much leverage over past administrations because they could say, we'll cut you off.
00:08:10.000 We'll cut off your ability to talk to the public.
00:08:13.000 Well, now with the rise of new media, whether it be social media, whether it be podcasts, of course, like this show and what Rav does in terms of distribution has shown that not only do we have other abilities, but in fact, we can do your job just as good.
00:08:26.000 Honestly, I would even go so far as to say a little bit better because I think the color, the lighting on our shots are just a little bit more dialed in than what CNN was doing.
00:08:34.000 I actually totally agree, by the way.
00:08:36.000 Parker, just a super big hat tip to you guys and your team.
00:08:39.000 I was going back and forth with a bunch of content creators, influencers, people with big accounts, and they're like, man, watching President Trump get off of the helicopter, for example, the framing is better, the lighting is better, it's more dramatic.
00:08:53.000 The real truth is, I had this thought because it was the 9 11 anniversary, so we were all watching old clips.
00:08:58.000 I was looking at CNN from 25 years ago and accounting for obviously the improvement of camera technology.
00:09:04.000 CNN was so better, they got totally ruined.
00:09:06.000 By Trump, because he fried their brain.
00:09:08.000 He made it, you're watching this extremely angry broadcast all the time, and the people who make their Chirons are angry, the people who set up their camera shots are angry.
00:09:16.000 Yep.
00:09:17.000 It's, yeah, there used to be a sense of gravitas and awe that was approached with these pool feeds.
00:09:23.000 Jack, I wanted to have you on because you've been so good about championing the way that Parker and the team have stepped into the void, stepped into the breach, and just taken this on, and they've done an amazing job.
00:09:35.000 But Parker, what we were just talking about with Jack, the beauty of the shots.
00:09:40.000 It seems like it's already, I can see that it's like this is being done by people that have a respect for the office.
00:09:46.000 It's not propaganda, it's just care.
00:09:49.000 It's that people care about what they're witnessing, the history that's unfolding and being documented by the pool feed now.
00:09:56.000 Talk to us about that.
00:09:57.000 Is that something you guys talked about specifically or is that just happening organically?
00:10:01.000 Well, look, I think there's a lot of it that's organic just because of the culture that we have built into this ecosystem and the people that we choose to employ here and bring a part of our team.
00:10:13.000 But it's definitely a part of the conversation.
00:10:15.000 I mean, everybody who works with RAV and for RAV and is inside of this ecosystem is so profoundly dedicated to the mission and the cause and care about the product that we put out and covering the president and the administration in the best light possible.
00:10:35.000 Again, we've had conversations and said, hey, we need to make sure that we have everything buttoned up as much as possible.
00:10:43.000 But it really goes without saying.
00:10:45.000 Our team.
00:10:47.000 I refer to them as a media militia, right?
00:10:50.000 I mean, at the drop of a pen, we can be up and moving and getting cameras ready to go and getting a shot up live immediately.
00:10:57.000 And the shot quality is going to be good, right?
00:11:01.000 I'm not necessarily making any claims or accusations, but there's been times where we've seen other pool feeds by some of the mainstream media where the color bounce, the white bounce, is so profusely off.
00:11:19.000 That in my mind, there's no way it could have been a mistake.
00:11:22.000 I mean, I could understand a little tweak here or there, but you know, you always wonder is some of that a little bit intentional?
00:11:30.000 And that's where, from our side, I mean, we are dedicated to providing, again, full, unfeathered access at the best, highest quality possible of the president and this administration to everybody we possibly can, whether that's the general public, which we've been doing for years, and also.
00:11:50.000 Every media outlet that you could think of, whether that's the left or the right, it doesn't really matter.
00:11:54.000 We want to make sure that the president's message can be shared as broadly as we can.
00:12:00.000 And just to state for the record here, this isn't something that we are getting paid for.
00:12:06.000 This isn't something that there's some sort of.
00:12:09.000 Yeah.
00:12:10.000 So Real America's Voice has taken over the pool feed for the White House.
00:12:15.000 Huge, huge honor and obligation and a burden, really.
00:12:19.000 But you just said something that I don't think the average public really fully understands how this works.
00:12:25.000 Right?
00:12:26.000 Real America's Voice is not being paid for this.
00:12:28.000 You guys did this out of a sense of duty and honor and obligation for the country.
00:12:33.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:12:35.000 There's, you know, what I say a lot, and I tell this to a lot of different people, and it goes well beyond just the pool feeds.
00:12:43.000 We did not get into this business to go make a buck.
00:12:47.000 We did not get into this business to grow influence or anything of that sort.
00:12:53.000 We got in this business because there's a fight to be had.
00:12:57.000 For the sanctity of our country and the protection of all of our amendments and everything else, right?
00:13:06.000 So we're not getting paid for this pool feed.
00:13:10.000 Matter of fact, as you said, if you want to look at it a certain way, there is an increased burden on us more resources, more people, more time.
00:13:19.000 And we're prepared to take that battle up.
00:13:21.000 And again, it's because we care so deeply about this country, we care so deeply about this president and this administration, we care so deeply about our faith.
00:13:32.000 Which is the antithesis of everything that we do.
00:13:35.000 It's so deeply rooted in our faith, which is why, you know, again, to talk about Charlie, you know, why I looked up to him as much as I did is his strength that was rooted in faith.
00:13:49.000 So we're going to continue to fight this battle, no matter what front it's on, no matter what it looks like, no matter the cost, the amount.
00:13:57.000 We're going to continue to push on and do everything that we can in our power to fight to protect this country.
00:14:05.000 And make sure that there is a brighter future for our children, for someday if I have children.
00:14:11.000 And that's really our goal and our mission.
00:14:14.000 Amen.
00:14:15.000 And Jack, just explain the type of week that this happened on with the UN, President Xi.
00:14:21.000 I mean, this was about as high stakes a week as this could have happened on.
00:14:26.000 And Real America's voice is rising to the occasion.
00:14:28.000 Jack Basoba.
00:14:29.000 Right.
00:14:30.000 And I want to make sure that we say this because I've been saying it everywhere.
00:14:35.000 I guest hosted and demonstrated this.
00:14:38.000 On Tim Pool last night, that people have been saying that Real America's Voice isn't providing this to the public, and yet that's not true at all.
00:14:47.000 There is a link, media organizations can get access to that link, and even I think Parker was saying earlier when we were doing War Room that some members of the public are just getting the link.
00:14:57.000 And so, if you just send an email to pool at America's Voice dot news, pool at America's Voice dot news, and talk to them, they can either provide the direct streaming link.
00:15:10.000 And you could pull it up on a monitor.
00:15:11.000 I have it right here on a tab.
00:15:12.000 I'm looking at it right now and seeing the stream.
00:15:15.000 And if you want that up at home or if you want that up for your media organization, you can do so completely free of charge.
00:15:21.000 Because look, the President of the United States was at the United Nations all day yesterday.
00:15:25.000 He's obviously making the things that he says are world news, the things that the people who he's meeting with, the conversations that he's having, whether it's with Zelensky, whether it's with the Gulf Cooperation Council, the GCC, does he meet with the Iranians?
00:15:39.000 Does he see Pazeshkian, the Iranian president, et cetera, et cetera?
00:15:42.000 These are all world news.
00:15:43.000 And of course, he's going to be meeting with Xi Jinping later this evening on the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews.
00:15:49.000 And this is the first time I believe that it's happened since the 1960s that a president has actually gone out there to meet another world leader who's coming in on the tarmac.
00:15:59.000 Real America's Voice is the only game in town that's going to be providing this feed.
00:16:04.000 And a pool feed, by the way, is just that.
00:16:05.000 It's just that raw footage that goes up of the president.
00:16:08.000 There's going to be no chirons on it.
00:16:10.000 There's going to be no ads.
00:16:11.000 It's provided completely free of charge, no logos, anything like that.
00:16:14.000 It just goes out for the world as a public service.
00:16:17.000 And Real America's Voice is providing that.
00:16:20.000 At cost, right?
00:16:21.000 It's not free to have a camera, you physically send a camera guy out there and send the feed out to the world.
00:16:27.000 But Real America's Voice is stepping up and doing it because the stakes couldn't be higher for our country right now.
00:16:34.000 This isn't political, it's just about where we're going as a country, the direction of our nation, the president making these incredible historic meetings, these summits, the White House, the UNGA, which is one of the biggest UN General Assemblies that I've seen in years.
00:16:48.000 That's why when I went up to New York City on Monday for this.
00:16:52.000 And so Without Real America's Voice, the public wouldn't know.
00:16:55.000 They wouldn't have this direct access to the president the way that they are used to getting in this day and age.
00:17:01.000 And you know what?
00:17:02.000 I'm an American, and I believe in the First Amendment, and I believe absolutely the public has a right to this information.
00:17:08.000 And it shows the power of building parallel institutions.
00:17:12.000 TPUSA was a parallel institution, a counter-institution that Charlie Kirk built into the massive behemoth that it is because there wasn't a youth organization around conservative American values.
00:17:25.000 Real America's Voice, again, a counter institution that was built to counter the mainstream media and in this case, surpass them.
00:17:32.000 I love that.
00:17:33.000 Go ahead.
00:17:34.000 I just wanted to shout out as an example because we have a lot of people watching on Rav.
00:17:37.000 We just got an email from one of our listeners, Christy.
00:17:40.000 Hats off to Real America's Voice.
00:17:41.000 This has been a long time coming for far too long.
00:17:45.000 The mainstream media has dominated air coverage for too long, and the pedestal they put themselves on is coming down.
00:17:54.000 The bigger you are, the harder they fall.
00:17:56.000 And it's time for Rav to rise up.
00:17:58.000 This is such a good point here, Parker, Jack.
00:18:00.000 Either of you can chime in on this.
00:18:03.000 So, this all started, of course, because President Trump booted Politico, MS Now, and CNN, right?
00:18:08.000 Then the rest of the networks and everybody joined in on this boycott and solidarity, including Fox News.
00:18:15.000 They go, they've, so they leave nobody to cover the White House, right?
00:18:19.000 So, their whole goal is that we get, people need to know what the White House is doing, the president is doing, all this stuff.
00:18:24.000 So, you guys step into the breach, but you're kind of screwing up the whole plan here, Parker.
00:18:28.000 Yes, Real America's Voice has a POV.
00:18:32.000 We're conservatives.
00:18:33.000 We're nationalists.
00:18:34.000 We love America.
00:18:35.000 But the pool feed is just a pool feed.
00:18:38.000 It's just a video.
00:18:39.000 So you need to be able to separate those two.
00:18:41.000 But you guys are kind of screwing up their plan because they thought they had this White House in a corner and they were going to have to back down.
00:18:49.000 Your guys' thoughts.
00:18:50.000 Yeah, look.
00:18:51.000 And here's what I'll tell you I think one of the continued mistakes from the mainstream media is underestimating.
00:19:01.000 The conservative base, the MAGA base.
00:19:05.000 That is their problem.
00:19:07.000 They underestimate every single one of us day in and day out.
00:19:11.000 And this isn't the first time we've seen them have a blunder like this.
00:19:14.000 They expect that, oh, we're going to have this dominance over this pool feed and we're going to step away and we're going to have it wrapped tight in our hands.
00:19:23.000 Well, no, that's not the truth.
00:19:25.000 We have been prepared for this since day one.
00:19:28.000 Since day one, we've been prepared for this.
00:19:30.000 And we'll continue to stay prepared for this.
00:19:33.000 People need to understand the amount of technology that Real America's Voice has been building out behind the scenes to make all their people in the field, the studios, everything talk together.
00:19:42.000 Jack knows this very well.
00:19:43.000 When you travel to Europe, Real America's Voice has you covered.
00:19:47.000 It's seamless, it plugs in, it works.
00:19:49.000 So, they have been building this for years.
00:19:51.000 Final 15 seconds, Jack.
00:19:52.000 Look, it's incredible to see.
00:19:55.000 They're actually, you know, we're sending me out to cover this huge Fulton Sheen celebration that's happening in America, in America's Dome in St. Louis.
00:20:03.000 It's part of this massive return to Christianity and revival that we're seeing with Gen Z.
00:20:07.000 And Real America's Voice is helping us cover that as well.
00:20:09.000 So, you got the communists coming in Washington, D.C., and we've got the Christians celebrating on the banks of the Mississippi River.
00:20:16.000 And it's all in Real America's Voice.
00:20:18.000 Parker Sig, Rob Sig.
00:20:20.000 A grateful nation salutes you, my friend.
00:20:22.000 Thank you for stepping into the breach.
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00:21:54.000 We have Savannah Hernandez.
00:21:55.000 She is in between locations right now.
00:21:58.000 Sav, welcome back to the show.
00:22:02.000 I just want to say again, you're making us proud out there.
00:22:06.000 There was an ice shooting.
00:22:08.000 Give us the details.
00:22:09.000 This guy's, what is it, Wilbur?
00:22:11.000 Wilbur Perez.
00:22:12.000 How do you say it?
00:22:12.000 Garces Perez?
00:22:15.000 I don't know these names from the people who's been illegal from Venezuela.
00:22:18.000 It's another illegal.
00:22:20.000 But everybody comes out from the.
00:22:23.000 Because people need to remember, Austin is like California.
00:22:26.000 So, any of the politics in California, just assume that's what Austin is like.
00:22:30.000 Tell us what the initial response was.
00:22:32.000 And then how did this lead to the rioting?
00:22:34.000 What do we know now, Sav?
00:22:36.000 Sure, Andrew.
00:22:36.000 So, this happened in North Austin.
00:22:38.000 And of course, the DSA very heavily involved in these protests and immediately getting a bunch of people out to shut down the intersections, to throw water bottles at police officers, rocks at vehicles.
00:22:51.000 And a lot of people, too, were watching this unfold because rioters and Protesters basically took over the intersection where this shooting occurred.
00:23:00.000 Now, keep in mind that our city councilman, Mike Segal, who is DSA aligned, he immediately came out and told a CVS reporter that an ICE agent sideswiped Wilbur Perez.
00:23:12.000 Yeah, if you have four last names, I'm just going to go with the first and last.
00:23:15.000 So we're just going to call this guy Wilbur Perez.
00:23:17.000 Sorry if that's incorrect.
00:23:19.000 But our DSA aligned city councilman immediately came out and said that ICE sideswiped this guy and then shot him through his windshield.
00:23:27.000 Five times.
00:23:28.000 CBS then went on to later quietly delete that information, but not before it was already distributed to the city.
00:23:35.000 So, all of our elected leaders, the same ones who don't care about the fact that our city is completely overrun with crime and homelessness, a huge drug problem, all of those leaders came forward.
00:23:45.000 You had Congressman Greg Cesar that was stoking tensions and saying that this is horrible and that we can't imagine that this happened in Austin.
00:23:53.000 People were upset.
00:23:55.000 They obviously went to the location, they took it over.
00:23:58.000 The police really don't do anything when it comes to protests in Austin because back in 2020, during the BLM riots, our own DA went and prosecuted the police officers who were using non lethal munitions to try to disperse the rioters that at that point were taking over the I 35.
00:24:15.000 So, this is our major interstate.
00:24:16.000 State, it was very dangerous for them to be at the location.
00:24:19.000 But as they were trying to disperse them, the DA went and prosecuted them.
00:24:23.000 So that's why, fast forward to 2026, you see the scene like you're seeing right now, where you have people taking over an entire intersection.
00:24:32.000 You have Austin residents who can't even use their own roads without fear of having rocks thrown at them or fear of being surrounded by rioters and a mob because APD has their hands tied.
00:24:43.000 Our leaders continue to foment this chaos.
00:24:47.000 Something that I got yesterday was exclusive footage from a surveillance company here in Austin.
00:24:52.000 Now, they reached out to me about this because they stated that DHS had this information, but they knew that local media or mainstream media, mind you, because I guess I'm local media, mainstream media was not going to do anything with this.
00:25:04.000 So, what you're seeing on screen is a high speed pursuit of Wilbur Perez as two DHS vehicles with their sirens and their lights flashing are pursuing him.
00:25:14.000 Now, Wilbur Perez initially came out saying.
00:25:16.000 Whoa, Hold on.
00:25:18.000 Wait, no, I was told that this guy was just a DoorDash delivery.
00:25:23.000 And I saw him, and they just pulled him through the window.
00:25:25.000 And then the Gestapo came, rolled up, shot him through the window multiple times.
00:25:29.000 And that it's just the Gestapo doing Gestapo things.
00:25:32.000 I'm just looking at this.
00:25:34.000 Are we sure this has been confirmed that this was the suspect fleeing high speed chase style down the road trying to evade Arette?
00:25:45.000 Are we sure, Sav, that this is what we're witnessing?
00:25:48.000 We are, unfortunately, for this illegal and his attorney's story, we are unfortunately sure.
00:25:53.000 That this is his vehicle as he is fleeing, not one, but two DHS vehicles that have their sirens blaring and their lights on.
00:26:00.000 And by the way, if you look at this footage as well, at this point, it does not look like there is any damage to his vehicle.
00:26:06.000 So I think that's also a very important point in this entire thing because he gave us this whole sob story, right?
00:26:13.000 That this aggressive driver, this unmarked SUV, just sideswiped him out of nowhere.
00:26:18.000 He had no idea what was going on.
00:26:20.000 There was also new footage that came out because his attorney came forward and said that after he was shot, he was just.
00:26:25.000 Pulled out of his vehicle and given no medical attention.
00:26:28.000 You have new footage that came out as well that showed the EMT coming and, you know, very slowly taking him out of the vehicle and giving him medical attention because he had been shot at that point.
00:26:39.000 But an idea of how Wilbur Perez was making our streets unsafe here in Austin, Texas by being involved in a high speed pursuit.
00:26:47.000 So let's just sum this up.
00:26:49.000 Okay, so you've got these crazy Democrats who don't give a crap about their own citizens dying of drug overdoses.
00:26:56.000 Getting shot, getting rammed on the streets, car insurance going up because illegals don't have car insurance.
00:27:02.000 They don't care about any of that.
00:27:04.000 They don't care about their own citizens living under a tyranny of dysfunction and chaos that they create.
00:27:10.000 But they care when an illegal who has no right, who had a final detention order on him, evades arrest, leaves police at high speed, endangers countless people, everyone in danger, on the street, could kill multiple people because he's fleeing at a high speed from.
00:27:29.000 Law enforcement that has their lights flashing.
00:27:31.000 They don't care about any of that.
00:27:32.000 And here's the other thing that just drives me crazy.
00:27:35.000 Why do you think Wilbur, whatever his name, Perez was fleeing?
00:27:38.000 Why?
00:27:40.000 Because he has been told by liberal, radical left Democrats that the people chasing him are Gestapo, they are illegitimate, and that they need to be defunded, and that all these illegals deserve amnesty.
00:27:52.000 So he took it upon himself to flee because he's been told that it was morally justified to do so.
00:27:57.000 No, I wouldn't even go that far.
00:27:59.000 He's fleeing because he knows that these suckers will come out and fight for him no matter what he does, including if he is a despicable criminal.
00:28:07.000 And you can see this.
00:28:08.000 You guys should go not.
00:28:09.000 You should look up the CBS News write up of this because it's actually really despicable.
00:28:14.000 A Venezuelan man shot by an immigration officer while delivering a DoorDash order in Austin was transferred from the hospital to a detention center.
00:28:21.000 So they're going with the, oh, he was out doing delivery and got shot.
00:28:25.000 They have him whining that his cell is too cold.
00:28:28.000 I am not doing well.
00:28:29.000 I am not receiving the medical attention I require, he said, adding that he's been in a cold room with no bed.
00:28:34.000 Sav, so who do you think told him to say this, by the way?
00:28:40.000 Could it be his.
00:28:41.000 Lawyer that maybe said this 159.
00:28:44.000 This is Kate Lincoln Goldfinch.
00:28:46.000 Oh, yeah, we've got an old tweet from hers.
00:28:48.000 How do you resist getting shot in the neck?
00:28:50.000 Does Charlie Kirk have any advice on that?
00:28:53.000 Throw it up.
00:28:54.000 This is the lawyer for Wilbur Perez who's saying, I'm not receiving the medical attention.
00:28:59.000 Who do you think is feeding him these lines?
00:29:01.000 Yeah, you know, the fact that he can't speak English, I'm going to go ahead and say his attorney, Andrew.
00:29:07.000 It's just so despicable that we have all of these immigration lawyers, by the way, that are being paid for by our taxpayer dollars here in Austin.
00:29:15.000 They're about to vote here in city council in Austin to continue funding another, I want to say $600,000 plus to immigration services.
00:29:23.000 So our taxpayer dollars are actually going toward funding the lawyers for the illegals in our city.
00:29:28.000 The lawyers that mock Charlie's death.
00:29:31.000 The same kind of lawyers that mock Charlie's death.
00:29:33.000 Just so we're all clear, we have all the right enemies, okay?
00:29:37.000 We have all the right enemies.
00:29:38.000 These people are ghouls.
00:29:39.000 They're vile people.
00:29:41.000 Continue, Sav.
00:29:45.000 Chaos here in Austin, and the taxpayers are just exhausted because our money is going toward funding lawyers like this.
00:29:51.000 Our city councilmen are immediately jumping onto the media to try to foment chaos in our streets.
00:29:57.000 Former city councilman and current Congressman Greg Cesar, back in 2020, defunded our police by a third, so took 150 million away from our police department, got rid of 180 police positions.
00:30:07.000 So our city is as unsafe as it's ever been.
00:30:10.000 I'm on the ground right now, Andrew, because our homeless and drug crisis has gotten so bad that they've started.
00:30:17.000 Distributing Narcan kits to the local bars.
00:30:19.000 That's what the average resident is dealing with.
00:30:21.000 But our local leaders don't care about any of that.
00:30:24.000 All they care about is an illegal getting shot in the street as he was, again, evading federal officials.
00:30:30.000 Like, this is just, you know, elementary stuff.
00:30:32.000 He's breaking the rules.
00:30:33.000 Exactly.
00:30:33.000 You don't want to get shot.
00:30:34.000 Don't run away from federal officials.
00:30:36.000 Okay, so the question is, think of the hardest math question you've ever tried to figure out in your life, Savannah.
00:30:42.000 Think about how hard it was for you to, you were struggling with it for hours on end.
00:30:46.000 You were never sure if you got it.
00:30:47.000 That's apparently how these people feel if you tell them, if you try to.
00:30:51.000 Break the law, you will go to jail.
00:30:53.000 They can't figure it out.
00:30:54.000 Here's two thoughts.
00:30:57.000 If you evade law enforcement, if you obstruct them, bad things are going to happen.
00:31:02.000 If you get shot, I'm not going to feel bad for you.
00:31:04.000 I'm not.
00:31:06.000 When you get pulled over by a car, a cop car, or a law enforcement official, you put it, hands at 10 and 2, you put the keys up on the dash, you turn the car down, you roll the window, and you say, Yes, sir, no, sir, yes, officer, no, officer.
00:31:18.000 This whole garbage about blaming these cops, okay, I'm not saying they did everything perfectly, I don't know all the details.
00:31:24.000 But the second you take that into your hands and you start evading police, obstructing justice, what happens next is on you, buddy.
00:31:31.000 When you flee police, you might get shot.
00:31:33.000 Period.
00:31:34.000 Here's my second thought.
00:31:35.000 Why the heck is DoorDash employing illegals?
00:31:40.000 I think DHS needs to go investigate Uber and DoorDash and all of these groups.
00:31:45.000 Andrew, Andrew, Frontlines already did the investigation years ago.
00:31:49.000 Facebook foments this, and there's black markets where illegals can buy social security cards.
00:31:53.000 They can buy IDs.
00:31:55.000 They can literally buy DoorDash and Uber accounts so they can work them, which is why when Maria is supposed to be delivering your burrito at 2 a.m., some freaking guy from Venezuela who is not a Maria shows up at your door.
00:32:08.000 This is a big black market that has been fomenting and just being created here on Facebook for years at this point.
00:32:15.000 And we've already done all the investigations.
00:32:17.000 This is one of the big things that they're doing.
00:32:19.000 And it's been happening for years, unfortunately.
00:32:21.000 All right.
00:32:22.000 Do you hear this, Senator John Curtis?
00:32:25.000 What's her name?
00:32:26.000 Salazar.
00:32:28.000 All these dignidad people.
00:32:30.000 No, we want them all out.
00:32:31.000 And we're sick of the chaos.
00:32:33.000 We're sick of the garbage.
00:32:34.000 We're sick of the overdoses.
00:32:35.000 We're sick of our whole system getting taken for a ruse.
00:32:38.000 We're all a bunch of suckers.
00:32:39.000 And the second that we stop, Putting up with these sob stories or believing the lies that this guy was just some nice DoorDash driver and they sideswiped him.
00:32:48.000 No, he's a local DoorDash driver.
00:32:50.000 And he deserves every amount of justice this country can throw at him.
00:32:54.000 I'm sick of it.
00:32:55.000 Thank you, Savannah, for covering it.
00:32:58.000 I've got no patience.
00:32:59.000 I've got no patience.
00:33:00.000 Why can't we have a nice country?
00:33:02.000 Because Libs.
00:33:02.000 That's basically where I'm at right now.
00:33:04.000 Savannah Hernandez, God bless you.
00:33:06.000 Keep safe, please.
00:33:09.000 All right, so I want to get to.
00:33:11.000 She had very little time on that because she was in between shots and she was awesome for making some time for us there.
00:33:18.000 But I want to play some of these clips.
00:33:20.000 This is Texas Representative Greg Cassar.
00:33:24.000 You got to listen to what they say and what they actually believe.
00:33:26.000 I mean, this stuff is crazy.
00:33:28.000 Stop 13.
00:33:29.000 It is awful that this horror has come to our doorstep.
00:33:35.000 And as the mayor said, unfortunately, it is not a surprise.
00:33:40.000 Just a few weeks ago, as we.
00:33:43.000 Saw the ice surge come to Austin, especially to north central Austin.
00:33:49.000 I and others said that ICE needed to leave before someone was shot.
00:33:55.000 And so I think the message remains that for Austin to be safe, ICE should end its surge here in our community.
00:34:06.000 Well, too bad you got Greg Abbott as governor.
00:34:08.000 He's not going to let that happen.
00:34:09.000 All right.
00:34:10.000 You guys, by mandate, have to cooperate with DHS.
00:34:14.000 So, this whole notion that this is going to fly in Texas just because Austin is a little like California bastion in a red state, not going to happen, okay?
00:34:23.000 Here you go.
00:34:24.000 He continues on.
00:34:26.000 SOT 12.
00:34:27.000 And then we should pass a pathway to legal status and to citizenship for the millions of people who work in this community so that no president and no political party could ever do anything like this ever again.
00:34:44.000 Okay.
00:34:44.000 It's just, well, what it is, is you really need to shove these in people's faces over and over again because they want to ignore the reality, and Democrats are eager to let them think otherwise.
00:34:58.000 But the reality is, these people aren't compassionate.
00:35:02.000 What they want is they want criminals, they want gang members, they want welfare sponges, they want violent anti American extremists.
00:35:11.000 They want all of them to come into America.
00:35:13.000 They will seize any excuse, like a criminal DoorDash driver running from police and getting shot.
00:35:18.000 They will seize any excuse to then pivot and say, total amnesty for the entire third world to show up here.
00:35:25.000 There's a story that just happened in Britain the other day where they had a visiting president level motorcade to escort illegal migrants landing by boat to a hotel where they're going to get free housing, free health care, free literally everything at the expense of taxpayers.
00:35:42.000 That is what the left wants because that is their ideological project to destroy America.
00:35:48.000 I totally agree.
00:35:49.000 And I would tell you that it was really powerful.
00:35:52.000 We're seeing the juxtaposition of two world views, right?
00:35:54.000 You got Trump at the UN talking about.
00:35:56.000 UNESCO, which is supposed to be a cultural heritage preserver.
00:36:03.000 That's their mandate.
00:36:04.000 And yet, all that the UN does is they weaponize mass migration to destroy the greatest cultures and heritage with the greatest heritage around the world.
00:36:13.000 That's what they do.
00:36:14.000 Western cultures are getting absolutely destroyed by mass migration.
00:36:19.000 And these guys, Kassar, wonder where you're from.
00:36:21.000 Wonder what your values are.
00:36:23.000 Kassar, are you one of those let's invade the world so that we get a big voting block guys?
00:36:28.000 Yeah, I think we know what you're about.
00:36:30.000 And the moral inversion is crazy.
00:36:32.000 Like, they've got illegals that are evading police, and it's the police's fault.
00:36:39.000 Like, crazy town.
00:36:40.000 They have lost their moral bearings completely.
00:36:42.000 But I shouldn't be surprised because a lot of these guys have embraced somebody named Hassan Piker.
00:36:47.000 We talk about him from time to time on this show because he is unfortunately not just some streamer in California, as Abdul El Sayed would have you believe.
00:36:54.000 He actually campaigns with these guys.
00:36:57.000 And he sends.
00:36:58.000 His audience to go support them.
00:36:59.000 He's probably sending his audience, I haven't seen the clip, but I'm just assuming, to go riot in Austin.
00:37:05.000 And this is what they really want.
00:37:07.000 They are telling you who they are.
00:37:09.000 You need to listen, you need to open your ears and understand what time it is.
00:37:13.000 This is Hassan Piker saying he wants a Maoist style revolution in the Democrat Party.
00:37:17.000 Stop three.
00:37:19.000 I will throw you in prison, okay?
00:37:22.000 I want to put you physically behind a prison.
00:37:26.000 I want Chinese style communism to happen.
00:37:30.000 Inside of the Democratic Party right now, okay?
00:37:33.000 I want to do cultural revolution when I see that.
00:37:36.000 Okay, he wants to do Maoist style cultural revolution.
00:37:40.000 Do you know what that was?
00:37:41.000 Between the 60s and 70s, about 10 year span, the cultural revolution ended with millions of Chinese dissidents.
00:37:47.000 And by a dissident, it's just anybody who disagrees with Mao.
00:37:49.000 Not dissidents.
00:37:50.000 Anyone.
00:37:50.000 Literally, actually, just any intellectuals, teachers, party rivals.
00:37:54.000 Didn't have to dissent to anything at all.
00:37:56.000 Millions were imprisoned or put in forced labor camps or killed.
00:38:00.000 And that's what Hassan Piker wants.
00:38:03.000 Not with us.
00:38:03.000 I mean, he wants that for us too.
00:38:05.000 For Democrats, they are telling you who they are.
00:38:10.000 What he wants is he wants permanent 2020.
00:38:13.000 That is what Hassan Piker wants.
00:38:15.000 And even, I want to reflect on that because so many people like to make, especially while Charlie was with us, they would make that Hassan Piker Charlie comparison.
00:38:23.000 And it's such an illustrative comparison because what was, if you were to say, oh, there's this guy, this young guy Charlie that a lot of conservatives like, what's he saying when you tune in?
00:38:32.000 He's saying political stuff, but he's also saying you need to get married.
00:38:35.000 You need to have kids.
00:38:36.000 You should have a relationship with your savior.
00:38:39.000 You should be a patriot for your country.
00:38:41.000 You should fight to do good in your community, to build up the community and people and businesses and families around you.
00:38:48.000 And then you go to Hassan Piker, who's streaming, and he says, Mao style cultural revolution.
00:38:54.000 I want to put people in my own party in prison.
00:38:56.000 I want to terrorize them.
00:38:58.000 I think 9 11 was great.
00:38:59.000 And another thing about them is that what's Hassan Piker doing all the time?
00:39:03.000 He's famous because he streams six, seven, eight hours a day.
00:39:05.000 From his multi million dollar mansion.
00:39:06.000 From his multi million dollar mansion.
00:39:07.000 He travels around and he sings along to We Are Charlie Kirk.
00:39:11.000 And that's what he does.
00:39:11.000 He's purely an entertainer and talker.
00:39:13.000 Charlie was a builder who built organizations, which means he also cared about building his country.
00:39:19.000 Hassan is a fake intellectual screamer who wants to burn things down.
00:39:23.000 Charlie was an intellectual leader who wanted to build things up.
00:39:26.000 I invite that comparison because it gets everything about the right and the left gets a minute of it.
00:39:32.000 Yeah, he's a carnival barker that should be mocked and ridiculed.
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00:40:55.000 We have John Doyle.
00:40:56.000 If you're not Paying attention to John Doyle.
00:40:58.000 I have been texting your superiors, John.
00:41:02.000 Welcome to the show.
00:41:03.000 And I'm saying, we've got to go all in on John Doyle.
00:41:06.000 We love this guy.
00:41:07.000 It's just like one of the few guys around.
00:41:10.000 This isn't some grand conspiracy.
00:41:11.000 I'm just saying, there's very few people making any sense.
00:41:14.000 There's very few people who aren't having giant panic meltdowns.
00:41:17.000 I don't know why.
00:41:19.000 It's like the wheat and the chaff.
00:41:22.000 It's just like we're finding out a lot of people are chaff.
00:41:24.000 I don't know what to say.
00:41:25.000 But you are rising to the occasion, John Doyle.
00:41:29.000 So we are doing our part to make sure everybody.
00:41:32.000 Within the sound of this show and this broadcast, my voice knows who you are.
00:41:36.000 John, so you did this debate and we had you on, and I guess it was framed as MAGA versus America First, which I don't actually appreciate the framing because I'm America First.
00:41:47.000 I am MAGA.
00:41:47.000 I am all of the above.
00:41:50.000 Now, we're dealing with these doomers, these doom and gloomers, these horseshoe people that are going to apparently go find common cause with DSA guys that want to kill babies up until the first year of.
00:42:03.000 After they're born, the open borders lobby, the DEI guys, the anti white, anti Christian guys.
00:42:09.000 We're going to go find common cause and just burn down the Republic.
00:42:12.000 And we're probably going to have some of that in the midterms.
00:42:14.000 Let's just be honest.
00:42:15.000 But I had the team put together a list, a partial list of just wins in the last week.
00:42:20.000 Okay?
00:42:21.000 Hospitals shut down youth gender clinics and deal with the Trump administration.
00:42:26.000 Han Hua defense to establish $2.2 billion manufacturing campus in Arkansas.
00:42:30.000 Trump officials eject $750,000.
00:42:32.000 Thousand people committing fraud from Obamacare markets, saving billions.
00:42:37.000 Treasury uncovers $17.5 billion in suspected health care fraud.
00:42:41.000 Oil and gas shipments through the Strait of Hormuz hit six month high, according to CENTCOM.
00:42:45.000 US to build two military bases in Greenland under a new blockbuster deal with Denmark.
00:42:50.000 ISIS targeting Haitians with new intensity.
00:42:53.000 Now Haitians are fleeing the United States for Canada.
00:42:56.000 Win after win after win.
00:42:59.000 And yet everybody's dooming.
00:43:01.000 John Doyle.
00:43:02.000 Are you asking me why they're dooming?
00:43:05.000 I just, what's your perspective on it?
00:43:06.000 Yeah, why are they?
00:43:07.000 Yeah, I mean, sure.
00:43:08.000 I don't know.
00:43:09.000 I think it's kind of like that famous, you know, prescription when you're having an argument with a woman, where it's like sometimes they don't want the conversation to be focused towards a solution.
00:43:17.000 Sometimes they just want to be heard and to have their feelings validated.
00:43:20.000 And I would totally sympathize with that perspective if I were having an argument with my wife or girlfriend.
00:43:24.000 But if I'm having an argument with people on the internet, it's like, dude, we're supposed to be solution oriented by definition.
00:43:29.000 That's like why we're supposed to be here.
00:43:31.000 But typically, what you find when you're arguing with these people is that they don't actually care about all of the wins.
00:43:36.000 And if you point the wins out to them, they actually take offense to it because what they think is that you're not actually engaging with their feelings.
00:43:43.000 You're not validating how anxious I am, Andrew, which must mean that you aren't as concerned about these problems as I am.
00:43:49.000 And so they take it to be like an attack on their identity as a dissident or as a concerned American or something where it's like, look, dude, We're all here because we want to solve the problems.
00:43:57.000 By the grace of God, we have an administration which seems to share those concerns and be working towards them.
00:44:02.000 So, why are we dooming and glooming?
00:44:04.000 Is it just for social media engagement?
00:44:05.000 I think typically that's the reason.
00:44:07.000 Yeah.
00:44:07.000 So, yeah, well, I just want to sum this up and then I'll throw it to Blake.
00:44:10.000 Am I interpreting John Doyle right that basically arguing with the doomers online is akin to arguing with like a Lindsey Clancy juror?
00:44:19.000 That's how I interpret what you said.
00:44:20.000 Or just arguing with your neurotic girlfriend.
00:44:24.000 I think that was like the best comparison.
00:44:25.000 And I think it's very strong.
00:44:28.000 I think you're correct, John.
00:44:29.000 And It gets me thinking about it's the upsides and downsides of what we've seen on the right, which is that we talked to Scott Greer, for example, about White Pill, how we had people online, influencers, podcasters were able to mainstream ideas that the political class wasn't supplying.
00:44:44.000 But what that means is you have people who are often leading voices in your movement because they're good entertainers, because maybe their mental model of themselves is just, I'm a dissident, I'm a truth teller, I'm this anti establishment person.
00:45:00.000 Instead of, let's be real, we are a political movement.
00:45:03.000 What you need is people who are oriented on the axis of getting political wins.
00:45:07.000 It's something Charlie was so great at that when we're out of power, we're articulating what do we want?
00:45:13.000 What should we do when we get power back?
00:45:15.000 And when we're in power, how do we get the most out of that?
00:45:18.000 But as you say, John, there's other people who it's like the wins are beside the point for them, that they really just need, they want the news to set up justifications for them to signal how based they are or how angry and emotive they are.
00:45:33.000 They get angry when you point out wins.
00:45:36.000 That's the one I can't get over.
00:45:37.000 That we'll have record deportations, and having record deportations month over month is only an excuse for them to go, it should be even higher.
00:45:46.000 It's not high enough.
00:45:47.000 What do we do with that?
00:45:48.000 Yeah, I mean, well, the thing you got to understand about these people, and it maps with almost all of them, is none of them first wanted to be involved in American politics.
00:45:56.000 Usually these people wanted to be actors or actresses, or they wanted to be comedians, or they wanted to do something other than work in conservative media.
00:46:05.000 And they sort of like wash up here as a temporary way to satiate their need for attention.
00:46:09.000 And so ultimately, like their primary concern isn't about the political win.
00:46:13.000 In fact, the political win works against them because when Americans feel good about the state of their country, they're not tuning into conservative podcasts.
00:46:21.000 They're not watching conservative influencers on Instagram.
00:46:23.000 They're not looking for political solutions because to them, it doesn't seem like we have really, you know, tremendous political problems.
00:46:28.000 And so these people actually have a direct incentive personally and financially, professionally, Pour gasoline on all of these problems, inflame them, make them seem bigger than they are, that there is no solution.
00:46:40.000 The best thing you can do is to listen to me and subscribe to my podcast and so on.
00:46:45.000 But if these problems are being solved, now all of a sudden people might tune out.
00:46:48.000 They might look elsewhere for entertainment.
00:46:50.000 And so, yeah, it's a really bad incentive structure where the only thing we have to hope for for these influencers is that their heart is just in the right place and they ignore the financial incentive and the personal incentive to just pour gas on all these problems.
00:47:03.000 And they're just, maybe their heart's in the right place.
00:47:05.000 I think we see overwhelmingly that's not the case, which is the problem when.
00:47:09.000 Like you're saying, Blake, the movement becomes staffed with all of these influencers to act as kind of the priest class, the reporting class where we're deriving our epistemology from.
00:47:18.000 These people are not reliable at all.
00:47:20.000 You know, it feels like more and more we're sort of beholden to the algorithm.
00:47:25.000 You know, we can have all these conversations about free speech.
00:47:28.000 Yes, to be very clear, we are free speech maximalists.
00:47:31.000 We can have all these arguments about censorship and all this stuff, but it does feel like at some level we're just beholden to the algo.
00:47:38.000 Like it doesn't matter what platform, it's like it just kind of tends to reward obscenities, it rewards absurdities, it rewards conspiracies, drama.
00:47:48.000 Yep.
00:47:48.000 So, how do we like fight against that?
00:47:50.000 I guess it's like more and more.
00:47:52.000 That's just the question you have to ask.
00:47:53.000 You know, fortunately, I do think we're beginning to see some kind of correction.
00:47:56.000 I think that people are getting really tired of the last year with everybody just lying and slandering each other and, you know, calling into question everybody's integrity.
00:48:04.000 Because the idea with free speech and like talking about these ideas that the political class used to ignore was that finally we can get to the truth.
00:48:12.000 Finally, we can all really understand what's going on and we can all just speak about these things honestly and engage with the ideas.
00:48:18.000 But instead, people are lying now more than ever.
00:48:20.000 People are more concerned.
00:48:21.000 Confused now than ever.
00:48:22.000 And it's because these influencers aren't doing that.
00:48:24.000 They'll advertise themselves as the real truth tellers who aren't being controlled by them.
00:48:29.000 But actually, all they do is lie.
00:48:31.000 And then when you call them out for lying, they're like, what are you, anti free speech or something?
00:48:34.000 And it's like, I don't know.
00:48:35.000 I guess I agree with the founding fathers and that I agree with free speech, but I also think lying is horrible because what you're doing is actually worse than material damage.
00:48:43.000 You are slandering people and harming their reputation, which is something that can't really be quantified so easily.
00:48:48.000 And so, yeah, you know, the founding fathers who obviously are very famously pro free speech, they were also very much so in favor of severe consequences for people.
00:48:55.000 Who lied about other people specifically for their own gain.
00:48:58.000 So, if we can return to that, that kind of gentlemanly impulse toward the truth, we'll be a lot better off.
00:49:03.000 But these people aren't.
00:49:04.000 They're just liars.
00:49:05.000 That's all they do.
00:49:06.000 I think we're.
00:49:07.000 I love that, but I think we're probably more closer to reverting back to duels.
00:49:13.000 It's like, I hate this.
00:49:14.000 It's an alternative.
00:49:15.000 Matters of honor.
00:49:16.000 Honor culture.
00:49:17.000 You know, there is no honor among thieves, they say.
00:49:20.000 And it does feel like the internet has just made thieves of so many people.
00:49:23.000 John, when we talk about these wins, you related it to.
00:49:30.000 Talking to a neurotic girlfriend, that when you're trying to reason with people, go ahead.
00:49:34.000 But even, it's that we, when that's how it's bad with other influencers, pundits, whatever.
00:49:40.000 But what's also so annoying, I would say, is these wins that our own base, for lack of a better term, they're not grateful enough about it.
00:49:48.000 That you got a 100% secure border, something that seemed unthinkable for decades, that we would just slam the door on the Mexican border.
00:49:57.000 No one knew was coming in.
00:49:58.000 So any deportations are absolutely lowering the number of illegals.
00:50:02.000 And That's barely an issue in the midterms.
00:50:04.000 It's like, well, that already happened.
00:50:06.000 Who cares?
00:50:07.000 And I wonder, John, do you have any thoughts from interacting with other normal people, MAGA people?
00:50:15.000 Is there any sort of way that you can communicate the fact that actually things are just incredibly better than they were in 2020, 2021, 2022?
00:50:24.000 Are there certain wins that appeal the most to people compared to others?
00:50:28.000 You know, I actually, the thought that I have all the time is that I understand why George Bush was able to.
00:50:33.000 Fill the Pontiac Silver Dome.
00:50:35.000 I mean, you have so many people who just don't understand the significance of what Trump is specifically as a political leader.
00:50:41.000 Like, insofar as they're willing to talk about the Trump political project, most voters will describe it as, ah, we just need to send a bowl into the china shop and mess things up a little bit, really stick it to DC.
00:50:52.000 And it's like, this is why books like White Pill are so important.
00:50:55.000 People don't understand how bad things were 10, 15, 20 years ago.
00:51:00.000 They don't understand how unbelievable it is that the progress we've made has manifested such at the federal level, throughout the state level, as the GOP sort of.
00:51:07.000 Imposes itself on the public.
00:51:09.000 Like, it's just so much progress has been made, and people seem to think that, like, oh, you know, if we just got a Democrat back in, maybe things wouldn't be so bad.
00:51:17.000 And it's like, not only would things be immediately bad again, but they would definitely work to make sure that we never had another shot to right the ship ever again.
00:51:25.000 That's why they're talking about putting all of Trump's top allies in prison.
00:51:28.000 That's why they tried to put him in prison.
00:51:30.000 Like, and it's tough to communicate that to voters because you're asking them to be satisfied with the progress.
00:51:36.000 However, objectively speaking, things are not as good for them as they were decades ago in terms of the average, you know, quality of life an American could expect.
00:51:43.000 And so, I think it just really has to be emphasized.
00:51:46.000 You know, obviously, we understand things aren't perfect, but they are getting a lot better.
00:51:49.000 And just remember how recently things were really bad.
00:51:52.000 And you do just kind of have to trust us.
00:51:54.000 That's kind of what JD Vance has been saying to these people recently.
00:51:57.000 And it's not the perfect message, you know, but is there a perfect message?
00:52:00.000 I understand the other guy is going to say, ah, we'll just give you a bunch of free stuff.
00:52:03.000 Used to be emphasized, that's not true.
00:52:05.000 Every time they say that, they just want to do Biden admin 2.0.
00:52:08.000 But it's tough.
00:52:09.000 It's definitely tough.
00:52:10.000 It's going to be expensive and difficult to write a ship that has been declining for 70 years.
00:52:16.000 So, I don't know if we have enough time for this, but talking about this third way, we rejected neocons.
00:52:22.000 We rejected the open border lobby.
00:52:24.000 We rejected the business needs unlimited, cheap labor folks.
00:52:31.000 We rejected the perpetual foreign war folks as well.
00:52:35.000 And I'm not necessarily labeling these two people, but I noticed that you took note of at least one of these.
00:52:41.000 And these are our friends, but this is what I think is happening too.
00:52:46.000 It's like people that.
00:52:49.000 You know, they want sane immigration, they don't want forever wars, are getting lumped in with the neocons because we're rejecting this doomerism, too.
00:52:57.000 But it's interesting.
00:52:58.000 I noticed you kind of mixed it up with Joel Berry.
00:53:01.000 So he tried to be sneaky and put up this 163, he put up a quote of, it's actually Washington.
00:53:06.000 So he says, America should welcome immigrants, not only the wealthy, but the oppressed and persecuted from all nations and religions.
00:53:12.000 They all deserve to participate in America's rights and privileges.
00:53:15.000 Okay.
00:53:16.000 So that's actually a Washington quote.
00:53:18.000 You called him on it and you basically filled in the blanks.
00:53:21.000 You said, The rest of the quote goes, if by decency and propriety of conduct, they appear to merit the enjoyment.
00:53:29.000 So I love that you are not just taking some people to task because they're conspiracy nuts or horseshoe people, but you're also holding the line on some of the fundamental fabric that built this coalition from the beginning.
00:53:43.000 Why is that important to kind of fight it on both sides, John?
00:53:46.000 Well, because we want to tell the truth.
00:53:47.000 We want to be aligned with reality.
00:53:49.000 And it seems like everybody except the Patriot is trying to distort reality for their own gain.
00:53:53.000 And the reason, just to give you some context, why he tweeted that. Is because some people have been doing something on Twitter where they'll take quotes from the founders from, you know, notes on the state of Virginia or from the Federalist Papers or whatever, and they'll tweet them out as bait.
00:54:06.000 And what a lot of these neocons are doing is responding to that and saying, see, this is the woke right.
00:54:11.000 This is what we're talking about.
00:54:12.000 You know, you'll see a quote from the Federalist Papers about how America must be a nation united by common character and customs and people.
00:54:19.000 And then these people will say, what?
00:54:20.000 Dude, that's like so woke.
00:54:22.000 The founders would never agree with that.
00:54:23.000 And then they say, just kidding.
00:54:24.000 That was a quote from the founders.
00:54:26.000 And so it's a way of getting these guys to embarrass themselves.
00:54:28.000 So Joel Berry was trying to do it back and say, Okay, well, here's a quote from Washington about how we should accept immigrants and blah, blah, blah.
00:54:35.000 And nobody takes the bait.
00:54:36.000 But curiously, he omits the last part of that quote.
00:54:39.000 Literally, there's a comma that says, supposing they have earned it through their demonstration of customs and character and so on.
00:54:45.000 Okay, well, anybody who shares our view on immigration would basically agree with that, where it's like, hey, you want to come into the country as long as you are willing to assimilate and show us that, sure, whatever.
00:54:55.000 The problem is, though, that's like one in every 10,000.
00:54:57.000 That's one in every million.
00:54:59.000 And certainly not the tens of millions we've seen come into the country just in the last 60 years.
00:55:03.000 And so.
00:55:04.000 It's just a dishonest way of framing the immigration debate.
00:55:08.000 And I don't think that he did that, by the way.
00:55:09.000 I don't think Joel Berry cut that out.
00:55:11.000 I think that Joel Berry probably read that quote from some liberal who had cut that out to make it seem like George Washington would be totally open borders and, you know, happy, go lucky with all these immigrants.
00:55:22.000 And I think that means if Joel Berry looks at that and doesn't recognize it as being subversive and thinks, aha, see, Washington would agree with me, I think that's a bit of a problem.
00:55:29.000 The founding fathers were very clear on their attitudes about immigration that it should serve the American people.
00:55:34.000 Blake, riff, 30 seconds.
00:55:36.000 Blake, what did the founding fathers think about?
00:55:38.000 Were they Anglo people?
00:55:39.000 Believe it or not, the founding fathers liked Their country.
00:55:41.000 And so I think they would have a problem with any political project whose central premise was America and its people are illegitimate and have no history and no identity, and they can be turned into a gigantic third world thunder dome of like capitalism and crime and amnesty and anarcho tyranny.
00:55:56.000 I don't think the founders would agree with that.
00:55:57.000 What did Joe Biden call it before he lost his marble?
00:55:59.000 What did he call it?
00:56:00.000 A racial jungle or something?
00:56:01.000 A racial jungle, if you can keep it.
00:56:03.000 I think that's what Ben Franklin said coming out of Independence Hall.
00:56:05.000 John Doyle, I'm very, very glad you made the time for us today.
00:56:10.000 Go back to class.
00:56:11.000 I know you're studying hard.
00:56:12.000 John Doyle, you're keeping your head about you, and we see it.
00:56:15.000 We appreciate it.
00:56:16.000 We'll talk to you soon, my friend.
00:56:17.000 Thank you.
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00:58:21.000 You know, last night, I was thinking to myself, you know, it's been too long since we've had Kurt Schlick.
00:58:27.000 On because I just enjoy, I get energized by his rants.
00:58:32.000 And so, we have Kurt Schlichter coming up.
00:58:35.000 He's got a new book coming out in November, by the way American Warlord.
00:58:39.000 The guy is like, Kurt, there you are.
00:58:41.000 Okay.
00:58:42.000 You're like a lawyer by day, a commentator, and I think you're guest hosting for Hugh Hewitt today.
00:58:49.000 So, this is part of your show prep, and you find time to somehow, you know, write all these books.
00:58:55.000 So, congratulations on a new book coming up, Kurt, American Warlord.
00:59:00.000 Tell it.
00:59:01.000 I mean, thank you.
00:59:02.000 You forgot a mouthpiece for Pete Egg Zap.
00:59:06.000 Oh, is that what you're talking about?
00:59:08.000 Yeah, I got asked to come in and look at the war colleges and see if we could make them better.
00:59:12.000 And Washington Post cast that as me being his personal paid propagandist.
00:59:17.000 Oh, good.
00:59:18.000 You're stunned.
00:59:19.000 You're saying, wait a minute.
00:59:20.000 The regime media not telling the truth about a conservative.
00:59:24.000 You're shocked.
00:59:27.000 Me, too.
00:59:27.000 I was totally surprised.
00:59:29.000 I'm completely shocked.
00:59:31.000 Well, the Washington Post, by the way, I think they had as their lead this morning was that.
00:59:35.000 Basically, there's no pool coverage.
00:59:37.000 Nobody's getting access to the White House, which is completely not true.
00:59:40.000 This channel right here, Real America's Voice, is providing pool coverage for free to anybody who wants it.
00:59:46.000 You know, it's no logos, no nothing, just what's happening.
00:59:49.000 They're covering it.
00:59:50.000 So the Washington Post is a liar again, unfortunately.
00:59:53.000 Surprise, surprise.
00:59:54.000 All right, Kurt, we got 41 days till the election.
00:59:59.000 And actually, I think our team put together this graphic.
01:00:02.000 I don't know if it's ready yet, but 41 days.
01:00:04.000 We want everybody to get involved.
01:00:06.000 Be a part of the solution.
01:00:07.000 There it is, tpaction.com/slash 100.
01:00:10.000 You can even scan that QR code, it'll take you right there.
01:00:13.000 If you're out west, come to Arizona.
01:00:14.000 If you're out east, go to New Hampshire.
01:00:16.000 New Hampshire.
01:00:17.000 So, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Arizona, obviously.
01:00:21.000 So, we're all pedal to the metal.
01:00:22.000 We're trying to fix this.
01:00:24.000 We're trying to win this.
01:00:25.000 We're not taking any of the doom and gloom.
01:00:27.000 None of it.
01:00:28.000 We don't do that around here.
01:00:29.000 No black pills.
01:00:31.000 But you are apparently the mouthpiece for Pete Hegseth.
01:00:34.000 So, let's go there.
01:00:35.000 We've got G coming to the White House today.
01:00:38.000 We've got you got AI tensions, you got Taiwan, you've got Iran.
01:00:43.000 For our audience's sake, what are you looking at right now?
01:00:46.000 How are you reading the tea leaves and the story behind the story?
01:00:49.000 Obviously, she's going to get this big dinner tonight.
01:00:52.000 Everybody's talking about it.
01:00:54.000 What are you looking at and what are you seeing?
01:00:56.000 Look, I'm seeing that Donald Trump is moving the country in the direction that he promised.
01:01:02.000 Yeah, there are things that have happened that people aren't happy about.
01:01:06.000 Some of the prices haven't come down as fast.
01:01:08.000 Some people are very unhappy about the Iran thing.
01:01:10.000 Yeah, I get it.
01:01:12.000 But we're at the point where we're actually, we've got the Chinese coming to the table.
01:01:19.000 They're not bullying us, they're not pushing us around.
01:01:23.000 And it's just win after win.
01:01:27.000 A Venezuelan oil deal that puts America effectively in control of 60% of the known fossil fuel reserves, that's some incredible stuff.
01:01:36.000 As for AI, I'm not buying the doom and gloom.
01:01:39.000 I know the Democrats want to try and use that as a tool.
01:01:45.000 It just, you know, I can't be killed by AI.
01:01:47.000 I already died from climate change.
01:01:49.000 And oh, yeah, apparently Trump's budget cuts have stopped there from having hurricanes.
01:01:56.000 Have you noticed we don't have hurricanes anymore?
01:01:58.000 The first time in 100 years that the Gulf has not had a hurricane.
01:02:01.000 I mean, it is wild.
01:02:04.000 You change the name to Gulf of America and then no hurricanes.
01:02:07.000 It is very weird.
01:02:08.000 That is very weird.
01:02:09.000 He's a very lucky guy.
01:02:10.000 That's the craziest thing about him is how lucky he is.
01:02:13.000 I understand that people want everything.
01:02:15.000 All at once.
01:02:16.000 I get that.
01:02:17.000 I understand that.
01:02:18.000 Yeah, okay.
01:02:20.000 But we're adults.
01:02:21.000 You don't get everything you want all at once.
01:02:25.000 We've got a closed border.
01:02:26.000 I think that's pretty important.
01:02:29.000 So I see the doom and gloom people.
01:02:31.000 People are mad because they're paying a dollar more a gallon of gas.
01:02:35.000 And I get that.
01:02:35.000 That's annoying.
01:02:36.000 That's obnoxious.
01:02:38.000 Okay.
01:02:40.000 But we're not going to have a nuclear Iran.
01:02:43.000 We're going to have.
01:02:46.000 Security for our economy because of all the things that Trump has done.
01:02:51.000 People who are making a living off tips aren't paying taxes on them.
01:02:56.000 There are manifestly great things going on.
01:03:00.000 And this doom and gloom nonsense, Andrew, I'm so tired of it.
01:03:04.000 Oh, Trump isn't doing everything I want.
01:03:07.000 So I'm going to vote for the guys who want to castrate kids so that their Munchows and mommies can be excited about catering to their gender delusions.
01:03:19.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:03:20.000 It's ridiculous.
01:03:21.000 We've got to keep fighting.
01:03:23.000 So I'm told by CNN, who was just kicked out of the White House, if you could throw this graphic up, a lot has changed since Xi Jinping's last U.S. state visit.
01:03:35.000 Mostly in China's favor.
01:03:37.000 Okay.
01:03:38.000 And now they go through a litany of things here, Kurt.
01:03:43.000 The world's second largest economy.
01:03:44.000 So the first was in 2017, the summit at Trump's Mar a Lago.
01:03:48.000 And it says China was lagging on multiple fronts at that point, vulnerable to the tech and trade frictions Trump would unleash in the coming year.
01:03:55.000 But now he arrives at the helm of a country that's transformed.
01:04:00.000 The world's second largest economy has emerged as a tech heavyweight, homegrown tech talent is spurring Chinese AI models ever closer.
01:04:07.000 To Silicon Valley's frontier.
01:04:09.000 Beijing based space firms are launching and landing reusable rockets with their sight on global champion SpaceX.
01:04:15.000 Companies from energy to AI, robots, and memory chips have launched blockbuster stock debuts in the past year.
01:04:21.000 And they do make a point China's manufacturing juggernaut racked up a $1.2 trillion global trade surplus in the last year, due in large part to them leveraging supply chains, especially in rare earths, in their favor.
01:04:35.000 Do you agree with CNN or is this just.
01:04:38.000 Are they just still bitter about what happened getting kicked out of the White House?
01:04:42.000 Look, what do I know?
01:04:45.000 I'm only a strategist, you know, guy from the army.
01:04:48.000 All I see is China's being strangled as its allies fall one after the other.
01:04:53.000 Venezuela is gone.
01:04:54.000 With it, not only its access to all that oil, which powers the country, but its beachhead in the Western Hemisphere is gone.
01:05:07.000 Oh, they're out of the Panama Canal, too.
01:05:10.000 Its friend Iran has been neutered.
01:05:13.000 You know, people are saying, oh, the Iranians control the Strait of Hormuz.
01:05:17.000 That's ridiculous.
01:05:18.000 We control the Strait of Hormuz.
01:05:20.000 And if we say China gets no oil, it gets no oil.
01:05:23.000 And if China gets no oil, it's nothing.
01:05:26.000 As far as the AI stuff, now that's my favorite part, because the next story on CNN will no doubt be AI is terrible, terrifying, and horrible.
01:05:36.000 And we can't build data centers.
01:05:38.000 We can't do anything.
01:05:41.000 We can't participate in the AI revolution at all.
01:05:45.000 Oh, but China's doing great because it is.
01:05:49.000 It's all, I mean, it's CNN.
01:05:52.000 What do you expect?
01:05:54.000 It's nonsense.
01:05:54.000 We are in a great position.
01:05:56.000 We're in a strong position.
01:05:58.000 If I had to choose one, I'd certainly choose the United States over the People's Republic of China, a geriatric communist dictatorship that's teetering on the edge of revolution.
01:06:10.000 It's only one bad crop failure away from having these communists overthrown.
01:06:16.000 They may have a lot of high tech stuff.
01:06:18.000 But at the end of the day, they're a bunch of dictators and they know they're living on a razor's edge.
01:06:23.000 Well, yeah.
01:06:24.000 And by the way, China's banking on their high tech transformation to inject momentum into what is overall a slowing economy.
01:06:33.000 So China's actually got some headwinds there, too.
01:06:35.000 And you're right, Xi is increasingly isolated from the political rivals, from other factions within the Chinese government.
01:06:45.000 So there's a lot going on in China that CNN doesn't want to talk about.
01:06:48.000 Now, on this AI thing, I think you and Blake probably agree.
01:06:52.000 Data centers, massively unpopular.
01:06:53.000 Polling on data centers is like.
01:06:55.000 It feels bizarre to me.
01:06:57.000 It's bizarrely low.
01:06:58.000 No one ever agrees that much on something, and it feels like they did all this without anything happening.
01:07:03.000 All of a sudden, I'm seeing polls that like 20% of people like them and the rest hate them.
01:07:07.000 I mean, this is.
01:07:08.000 Well, look, I mean, you know, I don't want a sewage treatment plant in my neighborhood, but I definitely want a sewage treatment plant.
01:07:17.000 And I get it.
01:07:18.000 I don't want a data center in my neighborhood.
01:07:20.000 Nobody does.
01:07:21.000 That's one of the reasons they're going out into the country.
01:07:23.000 There is a data center in my neighborhood.
01:07:25.000 I do.
01:07:25.000 Blue cities will keep them from building them.
01:07:30.000 But yeah.
01:07:32.000 Okay, yeah, they have some debt drawbacks.
01:07:36.000 Those drawbacks can be ameliorated, and we're working to ameliorate them.
01:07:40.000 But the idea that we're going to go back to the 20th century as opposed to the 21st is just ridiculous.
01:07:47.000 It isn't going to happen.
01:07:48.000 And if it does happen, we're going to have Chinese overlords because they're not playing this.
01:07:55.000 Yeah, I mean, that's certainly true.
01:07:57.000 Okay, let's turn our attention to Iran.
01:08:00.000 President Trump, in his UN address, said that he is facing some.
01:08:04.000 Serious questions right now.
01:08:06.000 Actually, I think we have that clip.
01:08:07.000 Let's go ahead and play it.
01:08:08.000 Stop five.
01:08:09.000 But I have a big decision to make.
01:08:12.000 Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before?
01:08:22.000 Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again?
01:08:33.000 Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope?
01:08:38.000 Of future greatness or generations, kind of reminds me of that rocket man speech you gave it to you, Edward.
01:08:44.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:46.000 He, so as the mouthpiece, you know, I'm just kidding, and your personal capacity here, Kurt.
01:08:52.000 Um, what are you seeing with Iran?
01:08:55.000 And obviously, that it creates political headwinds for the entire movement.
01:08:59.000 I've been very candid about this from the jump, actually.
01:09:03.000 Um, but what are you looking at, and what do you hope happens next?
01:09:07.000 Well, I, I, I no longer work on the for the Pentagon, um, so I, I.
01:09:12.000 I am always, and even when I always spoke on my own and never about the work that I did.
01:09:18.000 Look, I am from a different generation than a lot of the TPUSA people.
01:09:22.000 I grew up with the Iranians murdering, kidnapping, and mutilating Americans.
01:09:28.000 And I want payback and I want them gone.
01:09:31.000 They are an existential threat.
01:09:33.000 As soon as they have nuclear weapons, they will murder our allies and they will murder as many Americans as they can.
01:09:39.000 So I supported the war.
01:09:41.000 Of course, I served in the military, so I.
01:09:45.000 I kind of put my money where my mouth is.
01:09:46.000 I'm not asking anybody to do anything I didn't do.
01:09:49.000 On the other hand, not everybody agrees with me.
01:09:53.000 And, you know, and in large part, they don't want, they have seen their trust in the foreign policy establishment completely evaporate after Afghanistan and Iran.
01:10:07.000 These were disasters.
01:10:08.000 They were poorly handled.
01:10:09.000 A lot of Americans got killed.
01:10:12.000 And a lot of Americans have a question what the hell did they die for?
01:10:15.000 And that's one that I can't answer.
01:10:18.000 That's one that you, I think we can answer it for Iran.
01:10:22.000 I would like to see this finished.
01:10:24.000 I would like to see a victory.
01:10:25.000 I would like to see the mullahs gone.
01:10:28.000 Imagine the strategic change when you have Venezuela gone, Cuba's going to be gone, the mullahs are going to be gone.
01:10:37.000 All of China's allies around the globe gone, getting rid of these running sores that have tormented the United States since before I was born.
01:10:45.000 And dude, I am old AF.
01:10:48.000 It is.
01:10:50.000 It is an opportunity.
01:10:52.000 I think we've got to take it.
01:10:53.000 And I know there are people out there saying, hey, Trump said no more forever wars.
01:10:57.000 My argument would be, hey, he didn't start this.
01:11:00.000 He's finishing it.
01:11:01.000 All right, Kurt, I'm going to play devil's advocate here because I've talked to too many of our kids.
01:11:07.000 They don't want to be at war.
01:11:10.000 They feel like they got hoodwinked.
01:11:12.000 They feel like they were told no new wars.
01:11:14.000 They don't want to go serve overseas.
01:11:16.000 They want to be able to buy a house.
01:11:18.000 They feel this war wasn't sold to them, period.
01:11:20.000 They were told the one wouldn't happen, and I don't think they got an explanation of why that changed that was compelling to them.
01:11:26.000 Yeah.
01:11:26.000 So, you know, I just want to make sure because, listen, I understand what you're saying.
01:11:32.000 But there's a whole suite of arguments on the other side.
01:11:36.000 So, how do you square that circle?
01:11:39.000 Well, look, I was a lawyer for 30 years, so I'm used to people disagreeing with me.
01:11:46.000 And I appreciate it when somebody puts the argument like you have, which is a very coherent one.
01:11:51.000 And I get it.
01:11:53.000 No, I understand.
01:11:55.000 Now, I would argue this isn't a new war.
01:11:57.000 This is a war that's been going on since 1971.
01:11:59.000 Yeah, but Kurt, right there, I just, yeah, it feels like it started.
01:12:03.000 Yes, I get it.
01:12:05.000 Earlier this year.
01:12:05.000 I get it.
01:12:09.000 These are guys who were going to have nuclear weapons.
01:12:12.000 Those nuclear weapons were going to kill Americans.
01:12:15.000 And I think it was extremely courageous of Donald Trump to do something I don't think he wanted to do.
01:12:21.000 I don't think he wants to be at war.
01:12:23.000 He wants to be building the golden age.
01:12:24.000 I don't want to be at war.
01:12:26.000 I want to be building the golden age.
01:12:28.000 But you know, sometimes you are overcome by events.
01:12:31.000 And we have been overcome by events.
01:12:34.000 And I get the people don't want to go.
01:12:36.000 You know, I okay, so Kurt, but when I sometimes you got to do stuff you don't want to do, and it is getting in the way of the things that we do want to do.
01:12:46.000 We want to get affordability, we want to get people's houses.
01:12:49.000 My gosh, you know, I can't go through a McDonald's drive-thru order from a clown and not pay 30 bucks.
01:12:55.000 How the hell do people live paying 30 bucks for lunch for their family?
01:13:00.000 I don't get it, it doesn't work, and we've got to deal with that.
01:13:03.000 So I understand, but I think Donald Trump made the right call.
01:13:08.000 So, yeah, and You know, we talk about, you said they were going to get nukes and they were going to kill Americans.
01:13:13.000 So, what do you say to the crowd that says, we've been warned that they were going to be getting nukes for, you know, how many years?
01:13:20.000 10 years, 15 years, 20 years?
01:13:23.000 They were, they never were there.
01:13:24.000 So, why was this time any different?
01:13:26.000 First question.
01:13:28.000 And when we talk about, you know, affordability, this has driven up gas prices, right?
01:13:35.000 So, how do you wrestle with that?
01:13:37.000 Look, the breakout for building nuclear weapons in the, The Iranian regime was within the control of the Iranians.
01:13:47.000 They could decide when to do it.
01:13:49.000 And it was coming up on that time.
01:13:50.000 They were also building a lot of conventional weapons, including ballistic missiles, to essentially do what North Korea did, which is create a conventional deterrent to stopping them from building nuclear weapons.
01:14:07.000 We saw this all happen in North Korea in 1994.
01:14:11.000 So we know how the game is played.
01:14:14.000 These are people who literally want to kill us.
01:14:17.000 I know that, and everyone should know that.
01:14:20.000 By the way, they've literally killed us for over 40 years.
01:14:26.000 As far as affordability, but you know, Donald Trump's not going to get any credit for what doesn't happen, for preventing something.
01:14:35.000 That I really agree with.
01:14:36.000 He's going to be held to what people can see, and what people can see is affordability, and affordability is a huge problem.
01:14:43.000 Well, and on that, I don't understand how young people can live.
01:14:46.000 Well, and on that, I don't get it.
01:14:47.000 You know what drives up.
01:14:49.000 You know what drives up costs is when we spend like a bunch of drunken sailors and we don't balance our budget.
01:14:54.000 Inflation can come from one place, and that is Washington, because only Washington can create money.
01:14:58.000 And so when we're financing these wars, it is contributing to this underlying problem.
01:15:04.000 What are we, $40 trillion in debt?
01:15:07.000 I don't know.
01:15:07.000 So the point is, I'm not dooming.
01:15:09.000 I just want to hear a smart guy like yourself answer the difficult questions that our kids are faced with, that I'm faced with.
01:15:16.000 So what's your answer to those things?
01:15:18.000 That the cost is basically worth it and that this will.
01:15:21.000 Yes.
01:15:21.000 Yes.
01:15:22.000 Okay.
01:15:22.000 Yes.
01:15:22.000 The cost is worth in the short term.
01:15:24.000 We should get it over with.
01:15:26.000 Donald Trump is going to strangle them economically.
01:15:28.000 I think that's the right way to go rather than overwhelming force.
01:15:33.000 It's going to take time.
01:15:35.000 It's going to take patience.
01:15:36.000 And yeah, we're going to have to pay a little more.
01:15:38.000 You know, but let's talk about the debt.
01:15:41.000 The military is about 12% of our debt.
01:15:44.000 An even bigger chunk is interest on it, an even bigger chunk is handouts, including to people like me.
01:15:49.000 Okay.
01:15:50.000 I'm going to be able to get Social Security a lot sooner than I thought.
01:15:53.000 But what?
01:15:53.000 You should not get it.
01:15:54.000 And I shouldn't be able to.
01:15:56.000 I agree.
01:15:57.000 You know, they, I, why should, why should some young kid who's trying to start out, a 24 year old, be paying me?
01:16:05.000 I'm like, I'm going to make like four or five grand a month off Social Security.
01:16:09.000 Yeah, I put in my money.
01:16:10.000 I get that part.
01:16:12.000 But there's no trust fund, there's no lockbox.
01:16:15.000 It's coming directly out of the pockets of some guy who just, you know, started as an HVAC repairman.
01:16:21.000 And now he's subsidizing me.
01:16:24.000 That doesn't work.
01:16:25.000 We're going to have to change how we look at government entitlements.
01:16:30.000 And that includes EBT, that includes Medicare, that includes Social Security.
01:16:36.000 And a lot of people my age are going to scream, but a lot of young people are, you know, they're going to have to be tough about things and say, no, you can't have free money for doing nothing.
01:16:48.000 If they're not willing to do that, they're not going to solve the problems.
01:16:51.000 I will be dead by the time a lot of these problems manifest at the end state.
01:16:56.000 Ultimately, the biggest problem facing America, I think, is what the founders would say it's a moral one, which is, are people.
01:17:04.000 Willing to sacrifice, give up anything for the long term future of this country.
01:17:09.000 Yes.
01:17:09.000 And a lot of people, they don't have kids, they don't have grandkids.
01:17:12.000 The answer they say is just no.
01:17:14.000 Yeah.
01:17:15.000 Kurt Schlichter, I wish we could keep going.
01:17:16.000 I know you got to go take over a show yourself, filling in for Hugh Hewitt today.
01:17:21.000 God bless you, my friend.
01:17:22.000 That was a really fun conversation, actually.
01:17:24.000 So thanks for making the time.
01:17:25.000 Well, look, I really appreciate you guys sticking up for the young people.
01:17:28.000 Thank you.
01:17:29.000 Somebody has to do it, and not enough people are.
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