The Charlie Kirk Show - September 22, 2026


The Left's Coup d'Etat Fantasies + What Drives a GOP Backstabber?

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:18.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:19.000 September 22nd, 2026, here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:24.000 The show is just beginning.
00:01:27.000 But, Blake, you were gone yesterday.
00:01:30.000 I was.
00:01:31.000 I have to just show the audience there.
00:01:33.000 There's a ton of news, there's a ton of stuff that we're going to get to.
00:01:37.000 But I want to show this glamorous shot of Blake and Jeremy Boring, 139.
00:01:42.000 Throw it up.
00:01:42.000 If you're wondering where Blake was yesterday, wonder no more.
00:01:46.000 This is, I mean, that's fierce, Blake.
00:01:50.000 That is fierce.
00:01:53.000 I probably could have done with a couple of different shots of my facial expression there.
00:01:57.000 And it comes with the caption of Charlie called Blake his secret weapon in, you know, boy, oh boy, something along those lines.
00:02:06.000 Anyways, I look forward to listening to it.
00:02:09.000 I don't know.
00:02:11.000 Do you want to give us a little preview of what you talked about?
00:02:12.000 No, we probably talked about what you can expect.
00:02:15.000 Yeah, well, I mean, if you guys want all the.
00:02:18.000 Go support his thing so that it's a highly viewed episode.
00:02:21.000 Yes, yes.
00:02:23.000 So, anyways, that's exciting.
00:02:25.000 You know, Blake was like, hey, I'm going to miss a day.
00:02:27.000 I'm like, for what?
00:02:29.000 He's like, well, I got this thing in Nashville.
00:02:33.000 You're acting like a surprise.
00:02:34.000 I told you about that.
00:02:34.000 No, it was great.
00:02:35.000 It was great.
00:02:36.000 I'm happy you did it.
00:02:37.000 I'm looking forward to it.
00:02:38.000 I'm just razzing him.
00:02:39.000 I'm just razzing him a bit, but it's the.
00:02:41.000 The picture is worth a thousand dollars.
00:02:42.000 It is a funny photo.
00:02:43.000 It's a great.
00:02:44.000 There was a little bit of mockery online, but we'll leave it at that.
00:02:47.000 I don't care.
00:02:47.000 Exactly.
00:02:48.000 You shouldn't.
00:02:49.000 The trolls will come no matter what you do.
00:02:51.000 And, you know, sometimes that will be the target.
00:02:54.000 I should have had a s'mores latte.
00:02:56.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:02:56.000 Officially large s'mores latte.
00:02:58.000 I should go get a s'mores latte today.
00:03:00.000 Exactly.
00:03:00.000 Let's make it happen.
00:03:01.000 All right.
00:03:02.000 So there's a lot of news.
00:03:03.000 Obviously, President Trump has addressed the UN.
00:03:07.000 That's happening in New York.
00:03:08.000 He was doing a press conference with Mamdani.
00:03:12.000 I'll just be honest. 1.00
00:03:12.000 I don't really love it. 1.00
00:03:14.000 Mom Dhani is a socialist, probably more like a communist, and he's transforming New York before our very eyes. 0.93
00:03:23.000 Don't love it, but it is what it is.
00:03:26.000 And President Trump is a big fan of New York, so obviously he wants to do his part to make sure the city's doing well.
00:03:33.000 But it is what it is.
00:03:34.000 All right, so there's also, we're going to get into a lot of this polling about political violence.
00:03:38.000 Got to get to that.
00:03:38.000 But this morning, start up.
00:03:41.000 First thing I saw when I woke up this morning was the blessed.
00:03:47.000 Senator from the state of Utah, the junior senator, the second senator, Mike Lee will always be the senior and the first.
00:03:55.000 The good senator and the bad senator.
00:03:58.000 It's the tale of two senators out of the state of Utah.
00:04:00.000 There is, so there was a Politico, a ProPublica article, rather, that came out alleging that Don Jr. had done some nefarious things, right?
00:04:11.000 Related to his wedding, okay?
00:04:13.000 So the ProPublica report stated that a Putin linked Russian oligarch named Umar Kremlev secretly covered hundreds of thousands of dollars for Don and Bettina's May 2026 Bahamas wedding, including a private island rental and fireworks.
00:04:29.000 So this is totaled to about.
00:04:31.000 A couple hundred thousand dollars.
00:04:33.000 So then the article also states that White House aide Peter Navarro, a friend of Don Jr., Don's friends with everybody. 0.93
00:04:40.000 This is ridiculous.
00:04:41.000 Initiated a $620 million Pentagon loan to Vulcan Elements, a rare earth magnet startup that Don Jr.'s VC firm, 1789, I mean, Don's involved, but it's whatever. 0.73
00:04:52.000 Capital had invested in just three months earlier.
00:04:54.000 It was the only such deal pushed by a top presidential aide.
00:04:58.000 Now, this was the start of it.
00:05:01.000 Now, His spokesman, Don's spokesman, said that he had no involvement in the Vulcan loan.
00:05:09.000 And by the way, I would totally believe that this to be the case because Don hasn't been really involved in politics much.
00:05:17.000 Don is out doing his thing.
00:05:18.000 He's either hunting or doing his show and media or working on business.
00:05:24.000 But he is not really deeply involved in the day to day of the government or anything like that, politics in general.
00:05:31.000 So, lo and behold, so it's a hit piece from ProPublica alleging.
00:05:36.000 Some sort of corruption.
00:05:38.000 Totally obvious.
00:05:39.000 But lo and behold, Senator Curtis has to pile on.
00:05:43.000 And this is what the second senator had to say.
00:05:47.000 137.
00:05:47.000 A toaster is a wedding gift.
00:05:49.000 A private island party paid for by a Putin connected oligarch is something else.
00:05:53.000 Republicans nearly wore out the subpoena machine investigating Hunter Biden's foreign relationships.
00:05:57.000 We should not unplug it now.
00:05:59.000 Trust us was not enough then, and it's not enough now.
00:06:02.000 So leave it to Mr. Curtis.
00:06:06.000 To pile on and do the Democrats' dirty work. 0.80
00:06:09.000 Let's just explain why this is a ridiculous false equivalency from Senator Curtis.
00:06:16.000 There have been 100, 200, 300 hit pieces about Don Jr. in the last two years.
00:06:22.000 Not one has alleged or linked any nefarious, fraudulent wrongdoing of Don Jr.
00:06:29.000 None of them.
00:06:30.000 Not even the ProPublica story.
00:06:32.000 They're alleging there's some connection to Vulcan via the White House.
00:06:36.000 It's not even a thing.
00:06:37.000 You can't prove it, it didn't happen.
00:06:40.000 They're denying it.
00:06:43.000 Meanwhile, it doesn't matter.
00:06:45.000 Senator Curtis wants to go on this big fishing expedition.
00:06:48.000 It doesn't matter.
00:06:49.000 They're going to go, show me the man.
00:06:51.000 I'll find you the crime.
00:06:52.000 That's what this is.
00:06:54.000 It doesn't matter what the ProPublica story alleged.
00:06:57.000 It doesn't mean that they have proved anything because they haven't.
00:07:01.000 Also, we hear last week that President Trump has confirmed that Don Jr. paid back the money.
00:07:08.000 So, isn't all this moot now?
00:07:10.000 Right?
00:07:10.000 Even though he didn't have to pay it back because there's nothing illegal about letting a friend buy you a wedding present.
00:07:16.000 Thirdly, the difference between Don Jr. and Hunter Biden is that Hunter Biden didn't, there was no fishing expedition.
00:07:25.000 We had to claw and scream and wail to get any type of investigation done because there was plenty of evidence of pay for play influence peddling by the Bidens.
00:07:38.000 Do you remember Burisma 2014 to 2019?
00:07:42.000 Hunter Biden joined the board of a gas company.
00:07:45.000 Owned by Zloka Zlokchevsky, and he was paid about $50,000 to $83,000 a month without any energy experience.
00:07:57.000 So, this coincided with Joe Biden's role as Obama's Ukraine point man.
00:08:01.000 So, Obama appoints Joe Biden as the point man.
00:08:05.000 Lo and behold, Hunter Biden gets this lucrative board position, even though he has zero experience.
00:08:11.000 And then, don't forget, Joe Biden held out a loan when that company was under investigation.
00:08:17.000 He held a loan over the head of the Ukrainians saying, You got to stop this investigation if you want the money.
00:08:23.000 Okay?
00:08:23.000 Now, that's a lot of smoke.
00:08:25.000 That means there's probably fire.
00:08:27.000 Don Jr. got married with Bettina and they had a Bahamas wedding.
00:08:32.000 Okay?
00:08:33.000 The loan has been paid back.
00:08:35.000 Doesn't matter.
00:08:35.000 There's no moral equivalency here.
00:08:37.000 This is the problem.
00:08:39.000 We have Republicans that are doing the dirty work of Democrats that are going to do it anyways, by the way.
00:08:45.000 Just to be clear, John Curtis has, there's nothing in this for him.
00:08:49.000 But here's the connection I want you to make.
00:08:50.000 ProPublica then has come out with another investigation this morning alleging that Senator Susan Collins in Maine, oh, just so happens to be Maine, a big, hotly contested Senate race. 1.00
00:09:03.000 Alleging that she is corrupt and that she was giving out contracts to military contractors.
00:09:13.000 So it's a total op.
00:09:14.000 When you drop this bombshell on Susan Collins, they are denying anything.
00:09:19.000 It was negotiations that were happening between Susan Collins PAC and this company.
00:09:25.000 They paid back all the loans, by the way.
00:09:27.000 So we're going to get into that in the next segment.
00:09:29.000 But this is the coordination of an op, folks.
00:09:32.000 ProPublica comes after Don, ProPublica goes after Susan Collins.
00:09:35.000 And guess what?
00:09:36.000 You can rely on the second senator from the state of Utah who, when he's not pushing amnesty, is doing the dirty work of Democrats to come after the president and his family. 0.96
00:09:47.000 It's disgusting.
00:09:48.000 Honestly, this is why we can't have nice things.
00:09:50.000 This is why we lose.
00:09:52.000 So, this is the anatomy of a smear campaign, of a hit piece, of an op.
00:09:59.000 And I want you guys to be well aware, I want you to be informed, right?
00:10:03.000 So, ProPublica is saving all this stuff for the lead up to the midterms, of course.
00:10:09.000 Because it's a far left activist organization that shrouds itself in the austere, respect, reverential label of an investigative journalist outfit.
00:10:20.000 But it's just a far left rag.
00:10:22.000 That's what they do.
00:10:24.000 I mean, we've had run ins with them.
00:10:26.000 I remember when they came after Charlie, ProPublica, and they allege all this stuff and they make the most obscene connections possible.
00:10:35.000 It's terrible.
00:10:36.000 This is what they do.
00:10:36.000 So now they're coming after Susan Collins.
00:10:38.000 First, they go after Don Jr. For taking a wedding present.
00:10:42.000 Okay, fine.
00:10:42.000 He returned the money.
00:10:43.000 The point should be moot.
00:10:44.000 And yet, Senator Curtis in Utah is.
00:10:49.000 I don't know why this is his priority, but that's fine.
00:10:52.000 He's going after Don Jr. wants to drag him before Congress for it.
00:10:56.000 And now they're going after Susan Collins.
00:10:58.000 So here's what they say ProPublica tweeted about it.
00:11:00.000 They say Senator Susan Collins helped steer millions in federal defense contracts to Navitech, whose CEO illegally funneled thousands of dollars to her campaign.
00:11:09.000 The FBI sought to launch a probe and was eyeing Collins and other lawmakers.
00:11:12.000 Then Trump gutted the unit in charge.
00:11:15.000 All right.
00:11:16.000 So on its face, yeah, that sounds terrible.
00:11:18.000 Sounds terrible.
00:11:19.000 They got her dead to rights, right?
00:11:22.000 Well, no, it's not that simple at all.
00:11:24.000 All right.
00:11:25.000 So here's the true part.
00:11:28.000 I'll give you the true part.
00:11:29.000 Former Navitech CEO Martin Cow, who was later convicted of illegal campaign contributions, it's true, told the FBI his firm systematically traded donations for federal contacts.
00:11:39.000 Collins was described as Navitech's most important patron.
00:11:42.000 Her office helped steer millions in Navy research funding to the company while it and Cow's network donated to her.
00:11:49.000 Okay.
00:11:49.000 Here's their answer.
00:11:51.000 So, and this is the important part.
00:11:53.000 It's all buried, right?
00:11:54.000 So, you got to like dig around to find actually what the truth is.
00:11:57.000 Collins' office called the bribery claims outlandish, said that the campaign was not part of the super PAC talks.
00:12:03.000 Now, in politics, some of you may not be aware of this, but the super PAC is not allowed legally to coordinate with the campaign.
00:12:10.000 So, you'll have the Susan Collins campaign that she runs, she is in charge of that. 0.74
00:12:17.000 But then you have super PACs that just say, hey, we want Senator Collins to get elected. 0.99
00:12:22.000 We're going to do our own campaigning on behalf of her campaign, but they're not allowed to talk.
00:12:27.000 All right.
00:12:27.000 They're obviously.
00:12:29.000 See the world the same way.
00:12:30.000 They're obviously wanting Susan Collins to be elected, but they are completely different entities and they're not allowed to coordinate legally.
00:12:38.000 So the super PAC was the ones that were talking to Navitech CEO Martin Cow.
00:12:43.000 And the get this Susan Collins even paid back the money once that they it was surfaced that these donations were illegal.
00:12:54.000 Okay.
00:12:55.000 An FBI spokesman said in an earlier review found nothing implicating Senator Collins or the campaign.
00:13:04.000 So, the FBI cleared her.
00:13:05.000 She paid back the money once it was determined that Cal's donations were made illegally.
00:13:10.000 And Cal was a cooperating defendant seeking leniency.
00:13:13.000 So, he's in CYA mode.
00:13:15.000 He wants to throw everybody under the bus to get as lenient of a sentence as possible.
00:13:19.000 All right.
00:13:20.000 So, that's what ProPublica is going after.
00:13:22.000 They're trying to allege that there was coordination between the super PAC and Senator Collins' campaign.
00:13:27.000 There wasn't.
00:13:27.000 Here's the op the op is this is six weeks before the election.
00:13:32.000 In Maine, Where Senator Collins has managed to maintain her seat despite incredible headwinds in what, three elections now?
00:13:40.000 Oh, maybe more. 0.99
00:13:40.000 She always overcomes the polling. 0.99
00:13:42.000 She has a way of winning that state, and that drives the Democrats crazy.
00:13:47.000 So here comes the op, and here comes the other op against Don Jr., who also paid back the money.
00:13:54.000 And this is why we can't have nice things. 0.81
00:13:57.000 Because instead of defending your allies, instead of rallying around and saying, we're not going to fall for this garbage again, we're falling for it again.
00:14:05.000 And Senator Curtis out of the state of Utah is acting principled by drawing false equivalencies between Hunter Biden and Don Jr. 0.94
00:14:12.000 And it needs to be called out.
00:14:13.000 Here's the real thing it's that we are six weeks out from an election, and he's a senator where, let's be real, what's one of the biggest headwinds we face in this election?
00:14:24.000 The fact that this U.S. Senate has not delivered on things that President Trump ran on.
00:14:29.000 Why don't we have a SAVE Act?
00:14:30.000 Because of the Republican Senate that strung us along all year saying, oh, yeah, we're working on this.
00:14:36.000 This could totally happen.
00:14:37.000 And then they spend.
00:14:39.000 All of August on break.
00:14:40.000 So there's huge, most of September.
00:14:42.000 I think they're just basically done through the election at this point.
00:14:45.000 There's tons of people not confirmed for things.
00:14:48.000 There's tons of vacancies sitting around.
00:14:51.000 Speaking of which, Senator Curtis blocked Jeremy Carl from getting confirmed.
00:14:56.000 A friend of the show to the State Department.
00:14:58.000 Thanks, Senator Curtis.
00:15:01.000 It's all of these people, these summertime patriots, as Charlie would like to complain, that they love to think if we were to win, they'll come out and say, oh, it was our.
00:15:12.000 Measured leadership that the voters were turning out for.
00:15:14.000 No, it's not.
00:15:15.000 No.
00:15:16.000 To the extent we win anything, it is because of the vision that was offered by President Trump and his supporters of major change in this country.
00:15:23.000 And then, who has always been the obstacle to getting serious wins within this movement?
00:15:27.000 It's always been the Senate.
00:15:28.000 Now, we're six weeks out from an election.
00:15:30.000 And what's he eager to do?
00:15:31.000 To show how fair minded he is by complaining and demanding congressional hearings, investigating the president's son.
00:15:38.000 Even if you think that, do it after the election, period.
00:15:41.000 Like, we have to actually deliver for our people, run around trying to deliver for our people.
00:15:46.000 Here's the big op.
00:15:47.000 All right.
00:15:48.000 These guys want to submarine President Trump's administration.
00:15:52.000 They want to look the camera in the eye and say, See, I told you so.
00:15:57.000 He was driving us off a cliff.
00:15:58.000 I don't care what the voters voted for.
00:16:01.000 We're going to prove how wrong they were.
00:16:03.000 And that's what's happening.
00:16:04.000 You've got a bunch of these establishment Republicans that are really just, I mean, the expression is used all the time.
00:16:10.000 I don't like to use it, but they really are just Republicans in name only.
00:16:14.000 Okay?
00:16:15.000 They want things to go back to the country club Republican days and the rubber chicken dinners where Republicans were respected in D.C.
00:16:22.000 And they think MAGA is a bunch of ugly Walmart people and that their obligation to the country is to restore principled governance.
00:16:30.000 How about you restore principled governance when it comes to the left? 0.98
00:16:34.000 These people want us dead.
00:16:35.000 And we have new polling to show it.
00:16:37.000 How about you restore principled governments to the open border crowd?
00:16:40.000 How about you stop pushing mass amnesty, Senator Curtis?
00:16:44.000 Why don't you stop doing that?
00:16:45.000 Why don't you put the American people first?
00:16:47.000 Why don't you put your own party first?
00:16:49.000 No, you can't do that.
00:16:51.000 You do exactly what the Democrats refuse to do you break ranks so that.
00:16:56.000 You'll get patted on the back as some good little boy, eat me last Republican.
00:17:01.000 Donald Trump proved that that era was over and you were falling right into their hands.
00:17:06.000 You were playing right into their playbook.
00:17:07.000 And now, guess what's going to happen on all your favorite channels, Mr. Curtis?
00:17:11.000 CNN, MS Now, they're going to lodge you.
00:17:13.000 They're going to praise you as a good little boy, good little Tony.
00:17:15.000 It's not even that.
00:17:16.000 What's really going on here is he's setting the stage.
00:17:19.000 He wants to make it more likely that we will lose and then we will lose and he'll come out and he'll say, This is all happening.
00:17:26.000 We were led astray.
00:17:28.000 By the president, by this messaging, we need to go back to a more responsible mode of government, turn back the clock, and it will be turning back the clock to a time where the Republican Party was achieving nothing and losing all of the time.
00:17:41.000 And that's so much more comfortable to a person from a, frankly, a red state like Utah, where they don't have to worry about the burden of real government.
00:17:51.000 This is the tempting thing about being a beautiful loser that you get to complain a lot and critique a lot, but not have responsibility for delivering on things.
00:17:59.000 You just get to complain. 0.73
00:18:00.000 That's so satisfying to a lot of people. 0.96
00:18:03.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats want us dead.
00:18:05.000 The Democrats want to win. 1.00
00:18:06.000 They want to win and they want us dead.
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00:19:25.000 Without further ado, we got Rich Barris, Big Data Poll, the People's Pundit.
00:19:28.000 You know him, you love him.
00:19:29.000 Burn It Down is his new book with Joshua Lysik.
00:19:33.000 And sadly, he's predicted a lot of what we're living through right now, Rich, which.
00:19:37.000 We will get into it in the next segment.
00:19:39.000 But you do something very unique.
00:19:41.000 And obviously, near and dear to this show is the rise of political violence and political assassination culture on the left.
00:19:47.000 There's a very troubling new poll that just came out.
00:19:50.000 I know that you also poll this.
00:19:51.000 You are also keeping your tabs on this.
00:19:54.000 But this came out and it went viral last night.
00:19:57.000 Let's hit like, you know, 5.5 million views now.
00:20:00.000 And it says We polled five routes for Trump to leave office before the end of his term.
00:20:05.000 A plurality of Dems support four of them, including a military coup and death by natural causes.
00:20:10.000 The only one underwater is assassination, but it's still supported by 29%.
00:20:17.000 This is a terrifying reflection of.
00:20:20.000 Of the political moment we live in, Rich Paris.
00:20:22.000 I saw that last night, Andrew, and I said, Oh, I got something for Andrew.
00:20:26.000 I wanted to show him just on this.
00:20:28.000 I wish last year when we started this that we would have asked more about Trump to have more comparable results like this.
00:20:36.000 But the assassination question, we do have a comparable question on Andrew, and we're only about three points higher.
00:20:42.000 And I mean, so when you look at it and you say, Well, that's the lowest where assassination is an acceptable form of affecting political change, three in ten.
00:20:54.000 Is insane.
00:20:55.000 That's a lot.
00:20:56.000 And I don't know what we have to do to get people to, you know, raise awareness, whatever you want to call it.
00:21:02.000 But this is a real problem, Andrew, in this country.
00:21:05.000 And it's gotten worse.
00:21:06.000 And I'll just say this real quick, wrapping this up.
00:21:08.000 What I've been concerned about over the last year, and I am starting to see evidence of in this survey we're doing now, which is basically done, it'll be out soon, is if the right feels that they're literally being hunted and that the system doesn't protect them and maybe even offers them up.
00:21:28.000 I worry that at some point you might start to see acceptable levels, you know, or you would start to see the right also accepting kind of in ridiculous levels violent actions to defend themselves.
00:21:42.000 Because, like I told you last year when we did our survey, this comes from a feeling of self defense on the left.
00:21:47.000 They don't understand the difference between sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
00:21:53.000 They don't understand that speech and physical violence are two different things.
00:21:58.000 So, when you ask them about why they accept this stuff, Brother, they think they're defending themselves.
00:22:03.000 And I know that's twisted, but it's the way they view it.
00:22:06.000 So you mentioned your own polls.
00:22:08.000 Just out of interest, out of point of comparison, was this ever asked during the Biden years, for example, do Republicans, would you support an assassination attempt on Joe Biden?
00:22:18.000 Do you know of any polls of that nature?
00:22:20.000 And if so, what the number was?
00:22:21.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a good question.
00:22:23.000 We have seen others do it, but we didn't, we started this after Charlie was killed.
00:22:28.000 That's why I said, you know, someone's got to look at this a little bit more deeper.
00:22:32.000 So that's a good and fair question because.
00:22:35.000 We have seen partisans, you know, shift depending on who's in power, shift what they think.
00:22:40.000 I would just say this, though I would still have been skeptical of any polling showing that there were acceptable levels like we see on the left because the right has a different worldview, or at least they did when we started this.
00:22:54.000 And again, my concern is that they'll start to accept it too.
00:22:57.000 But they just have a different worldview where I don't try not to insult anybody, but their first instinct is not to view.
00:23:06.000 Politics and their political beliefs as the center of their world.
00:23:11.000 They have other things at the center of their world.
00:23:14.000 So the left almost obsesses over this stuff in a way the right, we just don't see from the right.
00:23:20.000 And so it makes that, it kind of raises the stakes for them, for the left.
00:23:23.000 It sounds like.
00:23:24.000 I totally agree.
00:23:25.000 Yeah.
00:23:25.000 This is the right.
00:23:27.000 If you're a conservative, you typically want to build your family, build your business, build your church.
00:23:32.000 That's right.
00:23:33.000 What fills in that gap for progressives is.
00:23:36.000 The cause du jour, the cause of the day, the next thing, the thing that they want to go rally in the streets for, whether it's ICE or opposing Trump or the socialist takeover of America, that is their church.
00:23:47.000 That is their cult like fervor.
00:23:50.000 It holds that space in their heart and their mind and their consciousness.
00:23:53.000 And therefore, if you are devoted to the cult of secular humanism or whatever, you will sacrifice yourself on the altar.
00:24:01.000 You will do crazy things to achieve political ends.
00:24:05.000 This is why this clip from Hassan Piker, I think, is extraordinarily important.
00:24:09.000 Obviously, Hassan Piker has said a lot of Things stoking political violence.
00:24:13.000 It's one of the reasons I don't think he's a legitimate political figure in this country because he's never walked those back.
00:24:20.000 Here's Sot 7.
00:24:21.000 And you actually wrote about this, and it was a great video where you talked about, you know, someone has to do it.
00:24:30.000 See, when I say that, everyone knows exactly what I mean.
00:24:34.000 Which is, I think that shows that there is a lot of anger, a lot of resentment, and untapped potential, untapped revolutionary potential, as a matter of fact.
00:24:46.000 Oh, okay.
00:24:46.000 So laughing at the idea of assassinating President Trump proves that there's a lot of untapped potential, Hassan Piker.
00:24:52.000 What the hell are you even saying? 0.95
00:24:54.000 The guy is completely out of bounds and completely off the reservation. 0.93
00:24:58.000 No, what that shows is you guys have normalized assassination culture.
00:25:03.000 What that shows is you guys have lost your sense of humanity and decency.
00:25:08.000 Rich, you're not surprised by this stuff, though.
00:25:11.000 I'm not.
00:25:11.000 And maybe it's just becoming more mainstream or has become more mainstream on the left in recent years.
00:25:18.000 But we have heard.
00:25:19.000 Similar comments like that from people like Madonna.
00:25:23.000 And, you know, I mean, I know everyone started to fall in love with him during the Amber Heard, you know, festival, whatever you want to call it.
00:25:30.000 It wasn't a trial, you know, it was a show.
00:25:32.000 But Johnny Depp and others that have made comments like this in the past.
00:25:37.000 The difference now, though, and I tried to stress this last year when that survey came out, our first one came out, they're not just, oh, I'm a student at a college and I'm trying to find myself, Andrew.
00:25:49.000 I'm like searching for my identity and clinging on to, like you said, the The issue du jour, the movement du jour.
00:25:56.000 These are people who are professional class established.
00:26:01.000 You know, they, guys, you trust them with your health, both physical and mental.
00:26:06.000 If you get in trouble, you pick up the phone, you call a lawyer, you trust them with your freedom or a fine or whatever it may be.
00:26:13.000 They are, they have permeated the ranks of the professional class in this country.
00:26:18.000 And when you're going over these results, you just look at them and you can't, it's not just students, you can't help but say, where are the adults?
00:26:25.000 These are the right, like these are the group of people in society.
00:26:30.000 And Charlie used to call them, don't say educated rich, call them credentialed, right?
00:26:33.000 You remember that?
00:26:34.000 Credentialed, called them the credentialed class.
00:26:36.000 These are supposed to be the professional credentialed class.
00:26:40.000 They're the ones who are supposed to be the adults, and they have some of the most.
00:26:44.000 And he chose that word revolutionary ideas, you know, radical revolutionary ideas than, you know, your average working man or woman in this country.
00:26:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I think we all saw that, of course, with Charlie, where a thing that stood out to me was after Charlie died, it was.
00:27:00.000 We, of course, saw people celebrate it.
00:27:02.000 But what stood out to me, and I ran into this personally many times, was that people clearly had the immediate impulse of, This is a good thing.
00:27:12.000 Can I go now find a reason to justify why I think it's a good thing?
00:27:16.000 And that's why you saw Washington Post reporters spelunking years into the past to say, Oh, here's the random word Charlie said that meant that he deserved to have this happen to him about MLK, about pilots, about gun rights or something.
00:27:30.000 And it was, they got their five or six good quotes and then it went out to everyone.
00:27:34.000 Here's why Charlie deserved it.
00:27:35.000 But what they were really mentally processing there was we think this political violence is good.
00:27:41.000 How can we launder this feeling to the public?
00:27:44.000 Which is why I went after Jimmy Kimmel so hard when he tried to act like this was a violence from the right.
00:27:50.000 Yeah.
00:27:50.000 It was a, you know, because that was whitewashing it.
00:27:52.000 It sent a message to everybody that, hey, if you do this stuff, there is a whole apparatus, a whole machine that will message to make it okay.
00:28:01.000 That will launder this through the media apparatus of the country.
00:28:05.000 There's another poll here that just came out.
00:28:07.000 It's a new story from the New York Post that was published yesterday.
00:28:11.000 And this is from FIRE, right?
00:28:13.000 So, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression.
00:28:16.000 They're kind of a libertarian group, but they defend the free speech rights of everybody, including Turning Point.
00:28:21.000 It says more than half of U.S. college students say controversial speakers should be banned from their campuses.
00:28:27.000 More than half.
00:28:29.000 With a record high number adding that violence is acceptable to stop them.
00:28:34.000 The results.
00:28:34.000 Provide a dangerous and quote unquote sobering picture of cancel culture on U.S. campuses, according to the expansive six year study of almost 300,000 college undergrads nationwide.
00:28:44.000 The atmosphere isn't just cautious, it's hostile, the study's authors wrote.
00:28:48.000 Students continue to show low tolerance for controversial speakers and, troublingly, more believe it's acceptable to shout down a speaker, block access to an event, or even resort to violence to silence campus speech than ever before.
00:29:02.000 We're going in the wrong direction, Rich.
00:29:04.000 I just wanted to say.
00:29:05.000 Preface this answer with what Blake was saying.
00:29:07.000 We have a question that actually captures exactly what Blake was saying.
00:29:10.000 About 35% of Democrats, actually, when you ask them whose fault is it that people take shots at Donald Trump?
00:29:17.000 Whose fault is it that Charlie was assassinated?
00:29:19.000 They are looking for a way to justify what they think it's a good thing because about 35% will say, you know what, Charlie had it coming.
00:29:26.000 It's the things he said.
00:29:28.000 That's crazy.
00:29:29.000 And we see this in college.
00:29:31.000 I know it's coming to the end here, but this is why I remember when Richard Spencer and others were getting shouted down off campuses before.
00:29:38.000 I didn't like it then either.
00:29:39.000 Because this is, you could just see it.
00:29:41.000 Can't stand the guy.
00:29:42.000 But when the University of Washington blocked Hassan Piker, I actually defended his right to speak.
00:29:48.000 I mean, I'm down to find out if he should be held liable for something.
00:29:51.000 He's got a lot of other potential accountability.
00:29:53.000 Yeah, but don't keep him from speaking.
00:29:56.000 Okay, let him speak.
00:29:59.000 All right, President Trump is in New York for the UN, and he's meeting with UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham.
00:30:08.000 We are going to be monitoring that to see if any news is made.
00:30:11.000 Burnham, of course, just replaced the outgoing Keir Starmer.
00:30:16.000 He's also far lefty.
00:30:18.000 Just another guy standing in the way of getting that 2029 new vote there and reform, seeing if they can take over, which would be great, but they are constitutionally limited in that country.
00:30:29.000 So 2029 is still probably when relief could come.
00:30:32.000 Let's hope it does.
00:30:34.000 All right, Rich, this is the no black pill segment, right?
00:30:39.000 No black pill, but we had Mark Halperin.
00:30:44.000 We had Mark Calpernon last week, and he said, He said it's possible we could lose nine seats in the Senate.
00:30:52.000 Yeah, he said if you're in a district that Trump won by 15, you need to poll again to make sure that where you're at.
00:31:00.000 Okay.
00:31:01.000 Is it, have we lost 15 points overall?
00:31:05.000 Listen, you know, sampling errors for subgroups are higher, guys.
00:31:09.000 What do I mean by that?
00:31:10.000 So a pollster goes out there and says, Look, would individual groups, and each district, of course, has a composite.
00:31:16.000 A unique composite of different kinds of voters.
00:31:18.000 So we really do our best to estimate how much a swing is in a district, for instance.
00:31:23.000 Given once, but I'm in one.
00:31:25.000 It was drawn to be Trump double digits, and the Democrat is in fact ahead, which, by the way, is a disaster.
00:31:31.000 Laurie Buckout is having a hard time raising money, but it's more than that.
00:31:36.000 It's the environment.
00:31:37.000 So Don Davis is an incumbent, even though he's not as well known in the first district as he was in his old district.
00:31:44.000 But that district and others, they exist.
00:31:47.000 Mark is right.
00:31:49.000 I mean, I really hate to say this, but we're looking more at like a 13.
00:31:52.000 But Andrew, the problem is.
00:31:54.000 With a 13 point swing, that could easily be 15, right?
00:31:59.000 Because of those subgroup errors.
00:32:00.000 But also, Republicans have two problems.
00:32:03.000 One is the independents, they're just getting killed by.
00:32:06.000 And the reason is in part because of the second problem, which is disaffection and their base isn't as motivated as Democrats are.
00:32:17.000 That actually makes it exacerbate the first problem because if your base isn't motivated, your independents aren't motivated.
00:32:24.000 So, it makes it look like your opposition is winning them because so many more voters are swinging.
00:32:29.000 When in truth, it's not always really a swing.
00:32:32.000 Most of the time, it's not.
00:32:33.000 It really comes down to turnout.
00:32:35.000 Yeah, I'm telling you, I put a post up about this the other day.
00:32:38.000 We could wipe at least three to five points off of the generic ballot lead if we just got more motivated.
00:32:46.000 I mean, looking at the 2022 electorate, the 2018 electorate, Republicans are doing three to five points better.
00:32:54.000 In these, you know, I say would be electorates, but electorates change over time.
00:33:00.000 The problem is there are always new voters.
00:33:03.000 In a midterm, it won't be a ton like a presidential, but the margin among those voters, and this is what bothers me so much, we just won all of these kind of voters, guys.
00:33:13.000 Two years ago, less than two years ago, that was part of the magic of Trump.
00:33:17.000 I remember talking about this with Charlie constantly.
00:33:19.000 Like, this is the first time I've never seen it before, Charlie.
00:33:22.000 We're actually winning the new vote, the inactive voter, what USA Today would always call the unlikely voter poll.
00:33:28.000 Because they're so key because they can literally change the outcome of an election.
00:33:34.000 They can make the underdog win, or they can make the party or candidates ahead win easily.
00:33:42.000 They can do that much damage.
00:33:43.000 All right, Rich, if you had a magic wand right now, one policy, because we're up six weeks, okay?
00:33:52.000 Early votes are going to be starting half the country right now.
00:33:55.000 It's tough now.
00:33:56.000 Yeah.
00:33:56.000 What magic wand, one messaging, one policy?
00:34:01.000 To get to close the gap as much as we can right now.
00:34:06.000 One thing.
00:34:07.000 The most popular one, Andrew, that we polled, and we did share with them.
00:34:12.000 I'm like, look, here's, I think, actually, we give them 12, but the one that I think could have the biggest political impact is to remove protections for vaccine manufacturers who cause vaccine injuries.
00:34:25.000 It is across the board a huge.
00:34:27.000 There are also food freedom issues that are super popular, but at this point, I think you have to go toward, you have to do something that speaks to holding one of these groups of society that people, you know, Donald Trump was supposed to be the retro elites, right?
00:34:43.000 Yeah.
00:34:43.000 That's right.
00:34:44.000 You have to strike at the heart of them.
00:34:46.000 Yeah.
00:34:47.000 You have to do something that really just shakes the foundation of something, you know?
00:34:52.000 Well, I know another one was they had that summit, I think, of the House, that political summit, and they said one of the issues that pulls best is removing the ability to do insider trading.
00:35:03.000 I was about to bring that up.
00:35:04.000 For Congress.
00:35:04.000 Same, same.
00:35:05.000 Let's throw this out that if we, I know Congress hates doing things.
00:35:09.000 If President Trump said, get back in DC, pass a bill to punish that.
00:35:16.000 Yeah.
00:35:16.000 We've heard this over and over.
00:35:18.000 People are fretting about it.
00:35:19.000 They see a lot of people in Silicon Valley getting rich and they feel they're getting left behind.
00:35:23.000 We need to kill this idea that Congress is just in on it.
00:35:26.000 Could that work?
00:35:27.000 Could that be a good way?
00:35:28.000 Yeah, would that be a good way if you did both of those?
00:35:30.000 Yeah, I mean, that always pulls wildly popular too.
00:35:33.000 It does.
00:35:35.000 But it's like the reason I picked the vaccine one is because people were looking, they've been wronged a lot by this ruling class.
00:35:43.000 You know, you had a host of hoaxes and lies and then just downright abuses of their trust.
00:35:50.000 And authority.
00:35:52.000 You know, you never would think public health officials somehow would pervert science and data and to the point that they're not going to do it.
00:35:58.000 Well, that's the MAHA coalition, Rich. 0.99
00:35:59.000 The MAHA coalition is one of those areas we had huge gains with independence, with women. 1.00
00:36:03.000 With women, too. 0.70
00:36:05.000 Yes. 1.00
00:36:05.000 Yeah, we need to give them some of the things they want, right? 1.00
00:36:10.000 We do need to message them.
00:36:11.000 You do.
00:36:12.000 Yeah.
00:36:12.000 Guys, the 1980s baby.
00:36:14.000 Oh, let me.
00:36:15.000 Yeah, I could say it real quick.
00:36:16.000 The 1980s baby, Andrew, they were the ones who represented the biggest effectors or mind changers. 0.98
00:36:22.000 And then within that subgroup, Women. 0.67
00:36:25.000 The lower prop new voter that came out made it look like Donald Trump did better with educated women.
00:36:31.000 That wasn't really true. 0.87
00:36:32.000 He just got new ones out.
00:36:34.000 They were Maha voters, bro. 1.00
00:36:35.000 They were Maha women. 0.72
00:36:37.000 And it's like some woman in rural Vermont or something who's out there doing that. 1.00
00:36:41.000 I want to show this, though, Rich.
00:36:42.000 I want to show this.
00:36:43.000 153.
00:36:43.000 So this is from Fox.
00:36:44.000 This is their competitive house shifts.
00:36:47.000 It's a bloodbath.
00:36:48.000 Every single one of those seats, every single one has moved to the left.
00:36:53.000 So it's Position from a likely R to a lean R to a lean D to a likely D to a toss up to a lean D.
00:36:59.000 I mean, it's up and down.
00:37:00.000 I mean, right now, if you had to take a snapshot, Rich, like what do you think we're going to lose in the House and the Senate if nothing changes?
00:37:09.000 We hope things are going to change.
00:37:10.000 We're going to keep fighting.
00:37:11.000 But what do you think?
00:37:12.000 What do you think?
00:37:13.000 Final note here, Rich.
00:37:15.000 Look, I go through the map every day, guys.
00:37:17.000 I just don't see how Democrats end up with anything less than 230 at this moment.
00:37:22.000 And yes, the map does limit losses.
00:37:24.000 The problem is it could end up being much more than that.
00:37:27.000 Cook, Charlie is right.
00:37:30.000 And Mark Halpern, who spoke to him and about him in that analysis, they're right because when you hit that four point barrier in the generic ballot, yes, that's how the map helped structurally Republicans.
00:37:43.000 But once they get above like those six to eight, you know, where you have them at right now, the levy breaks and those likely ratings fade away, guys.
00:37:53.000 Exactly.
00:37:53.000 Because it breaks the threshold.
00:37:55.000 Yeah.
00:37:56.000 It's embarrassing.
00:37:56.000 Everybody pick up Burn It Down.
00:37:58.000 He called all of this.
00:37:59.000 He called the shot.
00:38:00.000 I wish I was wrong.
00:38:01.000 Here it is.
00:38:02.000 We're going to keep fighting.
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00:39:50.000 I just want to give a quick note.
00:39:52.000 I actually think that President Trump's speech at the UN was legitimately important.
00:39:56.000 One of his best speeches in a while, talking about immigration, wants to rename AI to super intelligence.
00:40:04.000 And it's very important.
00:40:05.000 I think you guys should check it out.
00:40:06.000 We might play some clips in the second half of this hour.
00:40:09.000 That being said, we have Allie Beth Stuckey, host of the Relatable Podcast, author, speaker, mom of three.
00:40:16.000 She joins us now.
00:40:18.000 Allie, welcome back to the show.
00:40:19.000 It's good to see you.
00:40:20.000 Thank you.
00:40:20.000 Thanks so much.
00:40:21.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:22.000 So, I'm going to start actually, and we're going to plug it again.
00:40:25.000 But you have this event coming up October 10th in Dallas, Texas.
00:40:29.000 And I want to make sure everybody in our audience is aware of it.
00:40:31.000 It's called Share the Arrows.
00:40:34.000 And it's for Christian conservative women.
00:40:37.000 Tell us about this event.
00:40:38.000 Yeah, we're super excited.
00:40:39.000 It is a Christian teaching apologetics theology conference for Christian women.
00:40:45.000 I will be 37 weeks pregnant, Andrew, at this event.
00:40:49.000 And so, we're really coming down close to it.
00:40:51.000 But I. Couldn't be more excited about it.
00:40:54.000 We have thousands and thousands of women from all over the world, 48 states, six different countries last year.
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00:41:00.000 We're so excited.
00:41:01.000 We've got Rosaria Butterfield, Elisa Childers, Kosti Hinn, so many more who are going to be speaking, encouraging women.
00:41:08.000 There are a lot of self esteem conferences out there for women.
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00:41:18.000 Oh, I love it.
00:41:19.000 It's so important right now because.
00:41:22.000 You know, think about our next topic.
00:41:23.000 We're going to talk about Patrick Clancy.
00:41:25.000 I wanted to get to this yesterday, but we didn't get to some of these clips because there was just too much going on.
00:41:30.000 But it's a really important topic because what we saw, and you had a very interesting journey in all of this, actually.
00:41:37.000 You were, I mean, Twitter, Instagram, it was like the whole Lindsey Clancy trial.
00:41:43.000 You were all over it, you were mixing it up, and I thought it was really important.
00:41:46.000 But we saw women in much greater numbers side with Lindsey Clancy, who killed her children.
00:41:54.000 Right. 0.99
00:41:55.000 And they claimed self defense.
00:41:57.000 Obviously, the juror, there was one holdout juror, and now that guy's been doxxed.
00:42:02.000 Tell us just before we play the Patrick Clancy clips, how you processed that whole trial.
00:42:07.000 Yeah.
00:42:07.000 At the very beginning, when I first started learning about this, I thought that the possibility that she was really affected by a dangerous cocktail of SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs could have affected her mentally so much that it.
00:42:25.000 You know, compelled her to do this horrible act.
00:42:27.000 I thought that that case could be compelling.
00:42:30.000 Now, I was never in the camp of saying maybe Patrick did it, or maybe she shouldn't go to jail, or maybe there shouldn't be justice done here.
00:42:36.000 Maybe she had no agency.
00:42:38.000 That was never my argument.
00:42:39.000 I was never on that side of things.
00:42:41.000 I was always for justice for the children.
00:42:43.000 But I gave a lot of credence to this argument because I've been, you know, anti the overprescription of SSRIs for a long time.
00:42:50.000 But then the more I looked into it, the more I realized that she wasn't on very many medications.
00:42:53.000 She had never been diagnosed with postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis.
00:42:58.000 Hearing the medical testimony of the doctors who treated her before she killed her children, saying, Yeah, she actually didn't have any of these diagnoses.
00:43:05.000 I thought, Okay, no, never mind. 0.99
00:43:07.000 This woman just did a really evil, evil thing, and she needs the fullness of justice because of that.
00:43:14.000 So that was kind of my journey.
00:43:15.000 And it has been very, very sad seeing people go off vibes and social media rumors trying to indict the father of these murdered kids.
00:43:23.000 Well, I think that that's kind of, I think we're all in pretty much agreement on Clancy herself specifically.
00:43:29.000 But I think that's what's become the more interesting thing that it seems to have sucked in millions of people who've aggressively taken, Her side very radically.
00:43:39.000 And it seems in the most extreme case, we're articulating an idea that I was joking with Andrew before.
00:43:47.000 It seems a lot of people have the attitude that we could probably construct an excuse where no woman or no mom should ever go to jail or prison if she kills her kids under the age of two.
00:43:57.000 We can always come up with some explanation that would absolve anyone of guilt for even the most heinous crime imaginable.
00:44:04.000 What's going on there on a psychological and spiritual level?
00:44:08.000 You know, there is this idea, and I think it's in popular culture.
00:44:11.000 I think it's in a lot of the books that we read, a lot of the songs that we sing from pop stars that women can never truly be agents of evil, that even if they do commit some evil act, they're also a victim.
00:44:23.000 There's also always a good reason behind why they commit acts of violence.
00:44:28.000 And so that probably has gotten into our psychology, in addition to all of the typical left wing stuff that we talk about a lot intersectionality, that really the villain is always the white, cisgendered, heterosexual male.
00:44:41.000 And that women, if they act out, it's always because of some form of oppression.
00:44:47.000 It's because of some system, capitalism, the patriarchy, marriage, motherhood, whatever.
00:44:52.000 And then, in addition to that, whenever you attach the word postpartum to anything, it garners sympathy, whether it's true or not.
00:44:59.000 Postpartum rage, postpartum overstimulation, postpartum depression, all of these things.
00:45:04.000 I'm not saying that none of those are real, but they almost become justifications for evil.
00:45:10.000 And that is a really, really dangerous place to be.
00:45:14.000 Man, so let's get into these clips of Patrick Clancy.
00:45:17.000 These rip my heart out watching him.
00:45:18.000 Sot 3.
00:45:19.000 I talk to them.
00:45:21.000 What do you say?
00:45:23.000 Help me.
00:45:26.000 All the time.
00:45:29.000 Continues, Sot 2.
00:45:31.000 Five weeks after I moved to New York on May 26th, I had to figure out how I'm going to celebrate Calen's first birthday.
00:45:41.000 And how do you celebrate your son's first birthday?
00:45:46.000 Birthday months after he's passed away.
00:45:49.000 And so I go to St. Patrick's Cathedral, I light a candle, and I say, I love you, buddy.
00:45:55.000 And I walk out on Fifth Avenue, and I start crying my eyes out.
00:46:01.000 I know.
00:46:02.000 And this one, this one is like, it's going to be hard to watch, but I think it's important.
00:46:07.000 Zot 12.
00:46:08.000 Do you dream about them? 0.95
00:46:10.000 Yeah.
00:46:12.000 All the time.
00:46:13.000 Tell me a good dream.
00:46:15.000 I remember. Early on, having a dream, maybe six months or a year after, and I'm in the kitchen at the house, and Cora walks in, and I just look at her, and I it was like I basically just said, Where have you been?
00:46:34.000 and she comes up to me and gives me a big hug.
00:46:38.000 Those dreams are so real, it's like I'm lucid in those dreams.
00:46:48.000 This man lived through the most horrendous.
00:46:50.000 Thing you could imagine.
00:46:52.000 Losing your children is the most horrendous, horrendous, awful thing.
00:46:55.000 And he's been blamed for it.
00:46:58.000 He doesn't blame his wife, which I find fascinating, but I feel for him nevertheless.
00:47:05.000 Allie.
00:47:05.000 Yeah, there was another clip that I saw, and I had not realized that Callum, the baby, was alive for four days in the hospital after Lindsay tried to kill him.
00:47:16.000 And that Patrick stayed in the hospital with Callum, held his hand, held him as he died.
00:47:22.000 And that little baby took his final breaths in the arms of his dad.
00:47:27.000 And I mean, the guy's gone through more trauma than most of us could even imagine losing all three of your children in that way.
00:47:33.000 And I do think it's just evil.
00:47:34.000 It's so evil what's going on online trying to blame him for this.
00:47:39.000 No evidence.
00:47:41.000 It's hard.
00:47:42.000 It's hard being a parent and hearing that stuff.
00:47:47.000 I have to give an update before we move on to this Taylor Swift thing.
00:47:51.000 It's like dividing the internet, this Taylor Swift thing.
00:47:53.000 The Taylor Swift thing.
00:47:54.000 Yeah.
00:47:54.000 Great.
00:47:55.000 So, but, you know, the Clancy attorney, the defense attorney, wants a probe into the lone holdout juror, the guy that made sure she didn't get off with murdering her three kids.
00:48:06.000 He's been doxxed.
00:48:08.000 Profiles have been written.
00:48:09.000 People are chasing him down.
00:48:10.000 Defense attorney or legal analysts are calling this unprecedented.
00:48:14.000 We've never seen this thing.
00:48:16.000 And Blake's brought up points about how, with the changing culture, we don't have a common culture anymore.
00:48:20.000 I'm not sure we can trust jurors anymore.
00:48:23.000 Can we even do jury trials in this country anymore?
00:48:25.000 It's a huge question because we don't all sing from the same song sheet anymore.
00:48:30.000 Your quick reaction.
00:48:31.000 Yeah, so true.
00:48:31.000 Yeah, well, it's jury intimidation.
00:48:33.000 I know it's not technically because the jury in this case is not still deciding, but it's future jury intimidation.
00:48:39.000 It's telling everyone if you don't go along, With what the popular narrative is on social media, your life will be ruined.
00:48:46.000 That is a very real consequence that most people are not courageous enough to fight against.
00:48:51.000 And so I'm afraid that we can't get an impartial jury because of that.
00:48:55.000 Yeah.
00:48:55.000 Well, I think that, or a rational jury.
00:48:57.000 It needs to be sequestered in the future for sure.
00:49:02.000 But we have these concerns when thinking about Charlie's trial.
00:49:04.000 You know, the jury selection process in that has to be robust and very sophisticated.
00:49:10.000 One of the things that disturbed me the most is this went, Viral yet another interview from one of those jurors where she was saying, We saw this in the jury as an opportunity to get a victory for women at large, that we could come out and we could talk about postpartum depression.
00:49:26.000 And a very good response I saw from someone was to point out that we only have good things in our society because of people trying to do the job right in front of them, such as, You are a juror in this case.
00:49:39.000 What is the just decision in this case?
00:49:42.000 And a huge amount of harm has been caused by everyone getting in their head, What's the greatest good I can do for?
00:49:47.000 All of humanity in this case right now. 0.87
00:49:49.000 How can I strike a blow for 5 billion women around the world instead of how can I do the good thing right in front of me?
00:49:57.000 Well, there was a good thing right in front of, in my opinion, in front of all of us. 0.99
00:50:01.000 And that was listen, Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown and his wife, are they the Swifts or the Kelseys?
00:50:11.000 That's the big question. 1.00
00:50:12.000 That's the problem.
00:50:13.000 That's the problem.
00:50:14.000 I'm going to play the clip.
00:50:15.000 It's dividing the internet right now.
00:50:18.000 Sod 11.
00:50:18.000 All right, so it's very quick, but she's pointing to her million dollar ring and she says, That's my husband.
00:50:30.000 That's my husband.
00:50:31.000 And I'm thinking, This is great.
00:50:32.000 Good.
00:50:33.000 This is going to help make more babies. 0.96
00:50:34.000 People are going to celebrate marriage.
00:50:36.000 And yet the internet is like very frustrated at this for some reason.
00:50:40.000 Your take, Ali Beth Stucky.
00:50:42.000 Okay, I haven't seen the other side of it.
00:50:44.000 I think that this is great.
00:50:45.000 I'm not a Swiftie myself.
00:50:48.000 And, you know, I have all the criticisms of Taylor Swift and what she represents and all of that.
00:50:53.000 But.
00:50:53.000 This to me is representative of the right direction for women.
00:50:58.000 It's fun to be married. 0.89
00:50:59.000 It's fun to cheer on your spouse.
00:51:01.000 A lot of like toxic mommy culture, toxic wife culture online just makes it seem like marriage and motherhood are such a drag and that your husband and your kids are holding you back.
00:51:12.000 And here she is celebrating it and saying, I love it.
00:51:15.000 I'm proud of my husband and his accomplishments.
00:51:18.000 I think it's good.
00:51:19.000 Yeah.
00:51:20.000 So, what you just hit at, though, is so key.
00:51:23.000 If you go on TikTok or Instagram, and I'm sure many of the people in the audience listening right now know this experience very well, all it is is like the woman being mad about the husband kept his, you know, His shorts on the floor, or his toothpaste is in the wrong position, or he's in the bathroom, or something.
00:51:40.000 All these videos.
00:51:41.000 Why is there such a penchant online to just criticize marriage and to attack men?
00:51:48.000 I don't understand why this is okay. 0.99
00:51:50.000 Look, I think that there's gender wars really on both sides.
00:51:53.000 I think that if you are a guy, especially a single guy, and the algorithm knows that they're going to feed you anti woman content.
00:52:00.000 If you're a young woman, you're going to be fed anti marriage, anti man content.
00:52:05.000 Really, really gross. 1.00
00:52:05.000 The sexes are meant to complement one another. 1.00
00:52:07.000 We're not supposed to be the same.
00:52:09.000 You're not going to have a frictionless life or a frictionless marriage, but all of that is what makes it fun and exciting and beautiful.
00:52:15.000 And I think it's good when you have someone like Taylor Swift who is saying, This is fun and I love it and I love my husband and I'm proud of that.
00:52:24.000 I think we need more of it.
00:52:25.000 Yeah.
00:52:26.000 A husband is someone, it's one of the great things about marriage is when your spouse does admirable things, it like the aura goes on to you as well.
00:52:35.000 You get to celebrate together.
00:52:37.000 Yeah.
00:52:37.000 You get to celebrate.
00:52:38.000 But it does.
00:52:39.000 A woman is honored by her husband's accomplishments.
00:52:41.000 Totally.
00:52:42.000 And here's the thing. 0.82
00:52:43.000 We just don't know if it's the Swifts or the Kelseys here, Ali Beth Stuckey. 0.73
00:52:47.000 That's the problem.
00:52:47.000 Charlie called it.
00:52:48.000 Charlie called it.
00:52:48.000 I'm going to play a little throwback to Charlie, Sot 16.
00:52:52.000 This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.
00:52:59.000 Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. 0.96
00:53:02.000 Reject feminism. 0.58
00:53:04.000 Submit to your husband, Taylor. 1.00
00:53:07.000 You're not in charge.
00:53:08.000 And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.
00:53:16.000 I can't say it without laughing.
00:53:19.000 You got to change your name.
00:53:20.000 If not, you don't really mean it.
00:53:22.000 Congratulations, Taylor.
00:53:24.000 We want to make her mean it.
00:53:26.000 We want her to mean it as hard as she's ever meant anything in her entire life.
00:53:29.000 Yes, I remember that well because he went viral.
00:53:33.000 And I think that was the last time I came on the show.
00:53:36.000 I was on the show like two days later.
00:53:37.000 And I think that y'all were texting me and being like, okay, we got to talk about this.
00:53:41.000 We need a woman's perspective because the internet's going crazy over this.
00:53:45.000 Yeah, that was great. 1.00
00:53:47.000 Yeah, it is great.
00:53:48.000 I, you know, I don't know.
00:53:49.000 Are they the Swifts?
00:53:50.000 I saw that there was like some thank, thank, uh, you know, like a appreciation note sent out from the Swifts.
00:53:57.000 You're not from the Swifts.
00:53:59.000 No way.
00:54:00.000 That would be terrible.
00:54:00.000 I don't know if it was AI.
00:54:01.000 I'm not, I'm not alleging anything.
00:54:03.000 Do you think he'll change the back of his jersey?
00:54:07.000 What would he do?
00:54:07.000 Hyphenate it?
00:54:08.000 No.
00:54:08.000 What if he just made it Swift?
00:54:09.000 What if it was Travis Swift?
00:54:10.000 He's just Travis Swift.
00:54:12.000 Oh, no.
00:54:13.000 Is that, is that worse or better than hyphenating?
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00:55:20.000 Next up is Nicholas V. I love with the middle initial.
00:55:25.000 I want to start incorporating my middle initial into mine.
00:55:28.000 V. Leone III.
00:55:30.000 He is the founder of the Business Bible.
00:55:32.000 You can check it out at businessbible.com.
00:55:34.000 Nicholas, welcome to the show.
00:55:35.000 It's great to have you.
00:55:36.000 We have so many mutual friends.
00:55:38.000 And you knew Charlie.
00:55:40.000 You met Charlie and Foster Freeze.
00:55:42.000 And that's actually, you were working on Wall Street when you came up with this idea of the Business Bible.
00:55:47.000 So tell us about the whole origin story here.
00:55:50.000 Hey, good morning, Andrew.
00:55:51.000 Great to be here.
00:55:52.000 Yeah, I met Charlie when he was.
00:55:54.000 Chasing down Foster Freeze in a white cowboy hat at a conference in Dallas.
00:55:59.000 And I was in the middle of a conversation with Foster about hedge funds in the market.
00:56:04.000 And there came Charlie in his, you know, I don't know, it was a Brooks Brothers, old Brooks Brothers suit, ratted, and he was full speed ahead.
00:56:11.000 So, you know, it was a brief meeting, but I'll never forget it.
00:56:16.000 And what a great person and, you know, what great work he did for our country and the world.
00:56:21.000 Absolutely.
00:56:22.000 Well, so like Foster Freeze, you are a Wall Street veteran.
00:56:26.000 You were.
00:56:27.000 You were deeply involved in that.
00:56:29.000 And then you became deeply involved in politics.
00:56:31.000 So let's talk about this.
00:56:33.000 We have this because I know this is all part of the origin story and why you think this is so important.
00:56:40.000 Why did you leave Wall Street in a sense?
00:56:42.000 I mean, you're still sort of involved in it in an ancillary sense, but why the transformation in your own life?
00:56:49.000 So, when I met Foster, we were talking about finance, and I came to the conclusion that we needed a plan, right?
00:56:57.000 So, in business, we have plans.
00:57:00.000 The country needs a plan.
00:57:01.000 The church needs a plan.
00:57:02.000 And we didn't have one.
00:57:03.000 The left has a plan and it's pretty detailed.
00:57:06.000 And so I began to contemplate what does that plan look like to create human flourishing?
00:57:13.000 And it was born out of the global financial crisis.
00:57:15.000 I was actually managing money on Wall Street and in the middle of my career, started my first hedge fund in January 2007.
00:57:24.000 And then the markets collapsed down 50, 60%.
00:57:28.000 People lost their life savings.
00:57:32.000 And I asked a really important question, I think, which is, is there a better way to do business?
00:57:38.000 And that led me to search the Bible for principles that helped me navigate.
00:57:42.000 And, you know, today there's this political and cultural divide, but it really revolves around the economy a lot, right?
00:57:50.000 People care about how they can meet their needs.
00:57:54.000 But there's a big disconnect between, I guess, the top line economy and how people are experiencing it in their personal economy.
00:58:01.000 So some of those things drove me into the Bible.
00:58:05.000 To discover answers, how to manage my own life and work.
00:58:08.000 And they became sort of the foundation for the business Bible today.
00:58:13.000 So, maybe just explain that because you're talking about these divides, and I understand that.
00:58:17.000 I think that's critical.
00:58:19.000 But that point you just made about how people experience versus the top line economy versus their own lived experience of the economy.
00:58:26.000 And there's all these divides, right?
00:58:27.000 We've got the rise of DSA, you've got MAGA, you know, nationalist populism, and there's a lot of divides.
00:58:33.000 But ultimately, you searched the Bible.
00:58:36.000 To see how to do business better.
00:58:39.000 So, did you read it cover to cover?
00:58:41.000 I'm just curious, because people don't think of the Bible as economics literature or something, but it has so much of that actually in it.
00:58:50.000 But what did you discover when you started searching the Bible for these answers?
00:58:54.000 Right.
00:58:55.000 So go back in time to the global financial crisis.
00:58:57.000 Markets are down 50%, and I'm searching for answers, just like people are searching for answers today, right?
00:59:02.000 What's going to happen with the economy?
00:59:03.000 What's going to happen with the markets, right?
00:59:06.000 And really, Wall Street didn't have any clear guidance at the time, and the church wasn't providing the answers I needed.
00:59:12.000 So I began to search the Bible literally line by line, verse by verse, every word in a spreadsheet.
00:59:21.000 31,000 verses, 20 hours a day, much like we'd do on Wall Street.
00:59:25.000 So I basically applied my seminary training and my Wall Street research training and looked at every single line.
00:59:31.000 And what I discovered changed everything, Andrew.
00:59:34.000 The Bible is about business from beginning to end.
00:59:37.000 God works, we're created to work, and we're going to be rewarded for our work.
00:59:41.000 And it literally had me fall off my chair at the office and say, wait a minute, I need to rethink our Mondays through Friday.
00:59:49.000 So there was a big gap then between what Wall Street was saying and what the church was saying.
00:59:54.000 And today, There's an even bigger gap between Sunday and Monday.
00:59:59.000 We have a 90% biblical illiteracy rate in the church, and 60 to 70% of pastors are biblically illiterate, meaning they don't know basic Bible facts.
01:00:08.000 But more importantly, we're not teaching our next generation, and we haven't discovered in this generation what does the Bible say about Monday through Friday, and how do we apply our faith and work Monday through Friday, which is what really makes a difference.
01:00:25.000 That's shocking, by the way.
01:00:27.000 You know, it's interesting because Doug, who's one of our friends around here, he's also on the board attorney board.
01:00:32.000 He's been telling me about this for years, by the way, the business Bible.
01:00:36.000 Doug DeGroote.
01:00:37.000 Yeah, I love Doug.
01:00:38.000 So I know Doug's been involved with John DeGroote.
01:00:42.000 Doug's like one of your biggest fans.
01:00:43.000 He loves this project.
01:00:45.000 And so, okay, so like brass tacks it for us because I love that we're like working with you on this.
01:00:51.000 The business Bible, what is it?
01:00:54.000 If you had to kind of sum it up for our audience, like, what is the business Bible?
01:00:58.000 So, the business Bible is a topical Bible.
01:01:01.000 It's everything the Bible says about business from beginning to end.
01:01:05.000 And it's filled with articles, briefs, case studies, and gold letters that help people navigate through the Bible and discover what the Bible says about business and how to apply it to their life and work.
01:01:17.000 Case study, that's great.
01:01:19.000 That's business school type stuff.
01:01:20.000 So, what's an example?
01:01:21.000 What's a case study from the Bible on how to approach the world of business?
01:01:26.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.
01:01:28.000 If you think about my background in theology and economics, my native language is business.
01:01:33.000 And so when I did the work of creating the business Bible, I thought of the people that are going to be reading it and what can we discover about business.
01:01:41.000 So, in the beginning, for example, we often call Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob the patriarchs, but that's a religious designation, right?
01:01:50.000 Abraham and Isaac and Jacob were the founders of business as we know it today.
01:01:56.000 Abraham had a division of labor with Lot.
01:02:00.000 Isaac took great risk and planted during a famine and a recession and returned 100x.
01:02:06.000 Jacob, his employer changed his wages 10 times, right?
01:02:11.000 And yet he still was able to manage his business and take care of his family.
01:02:16.000 So the Bible's filled with these case studies, but it takes a new perspective.
01:02:21.000 We have to begin to look at it from the lens of business and discover what it says.
01:02:25.000 All of these case studies and principles are hiding there in plain sight, and business people will recognize them because they're all about best practice.
01:02:33.000 You know, it's interesting as you're saying that.
01:02:36.000 I've been reading the Old Testament to my kids at night.
01:02:39.000 So we have this children's Bible and we're going through it.
01:02:41.000 And it's like one by one, especially in Genesis, they're all like, and God blessed their flocks and they flourished and they had too many, you know.
01:02:48.000 And then you got the story with Laban and what's that?
01:02:52.000 Isaac?
01:02:53.000 Jacob.
01:02:53.000 Jacob.
01:02:54.000 You're right.
01:02:55.000 Jacob wanted to marry Rebecca, but then he got Leah at first.
01:03:00.000 Anyways, but then they had the spotted sheep or whatever.
01:03:04.000 And so he.
01:03:05.000 Anyways, all these stories keep going one by one.
01:03:07.000 And then God blesses their herds and they multiply and they have all the, you know, too many, you know, a head of, I guess, sheep.
01:03:14.000 Their herds get so large.
01:03:16.000 But it was occurring to me just last night that I was like, man, these guys were really.
01:03:21.000 Accomplished, you know, because I think our modern day, we like to demonize success, right?
01:03:27.000 You know, the DSA is basically just one big vengeance grievance campaign against producers and wealthy people, people that have been successful.
01:03:34.000 But the Bible's patriarchs are literally these successful entrepreneurs that are, you know, in the time of their day, they had great wealth and God blessed them.
01:03:43.000 Like, so I guess I don't know if there's a question in there, but it's just an interesting reorienting of the way we think about the Bible and the people that founded Israel, essentially.
01:03:52.000 You're right, Andrew.
01:03:53.000 We tend to look at the Bible with a historical lens and we look at it as an agricultural society and we think they're all poor.
01:03:59.000 And in reality, you know, God works, He creates Adam and Eve to work.
01:04:03.000 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob become exceedingly wealthy because of their work, right?
01:04:08.000 Joseph manages the world's largest economy.
01:04:11.000 And 40 of 44 of Jesus' parables are about business and money.
01:04:16.000 And in fact, He says, when you're faithful with a few things, you'll be faithful with much, right?
01:04:21.000 Enter the joy of the Lord.
01:04:22.000 And so, you know, His parable, The Talents, records an investment process on how to multiply capital.
01:04:30.000 And the Bible is clear about it reveals that we have been given the power to create wealth to benefit others, right?
01:04:36.000 Business meets people's needs better than government does, better than the church can.
01:04:41.000 It's what business is designed to do. 0.79
01:04:44.000 And so when we begin to look at the Bible through this lens, it equips us Monday through Friday.
01:04:48.000 It empowers us to create wealth and live generously, take care of the poor, and create a society that flourishes.
01:04:57.000 Well, so go into the parable of the talents.
01:04:59.000 Sorry, I'm going off script here a little bit, but it's just like, you know, the parable of the talents, when you say it's a, it's sort of a recipe for, you know, creating wealth.
01:05:09.000 Explain what you mean by that, because I think it's spot on.
01:05:11.000 Yeah.
01:05:11.000 So back in Deuteronomy, it says, God has given us the power to create wealth to confirm his covenant with us, right?
01:05:18.000 He wants society to flourish.
01:05:19.000 It's good.
01:05:20.000 And in Jesus' parable of the talents, this is what actually changed my life.
01:05:24.000 I'd read it, you know, many times before, never saw it this way.
01:05:28.000 Jesus says that an owner had eight talents and he entrusted them to three stewards.
01:05:33.000 And I thought to myself, I've been to B school, I've been to seminary.
01:05:36.000 What's a talent?
01:05:37.000 I always thought it was a gold coin, you know, a Roman coin or something.
01:05:40.000 And I looked it up, I pulled up my Bloomberg, and a talent was 75.4 pounds of gold.
01:05:47.000 It's a financial weight and measure.
01:05:49.000 And at the time I wrote the business Bible, gold was at $2,000 an ounce.
01:05:53.000 So each talent was $2.5 million.
01:05:56.000 Jesus is talking about eight talents.
01:05:58.000 $20 million, and the money doubles.
01:06:01.000 Now, of course, it's worth twice that.
01:06:04.000 But what Jesus does is he reveals a process that we use on Wall Street every day.
01:06:08.000 He allocates the talents according to ability.
01:06:12.000 He weights it five, two, and one, long before Markowitz's efficiency frontier.
01:06:17.000 And he diversifies it among three stewards.
01:06:20.000 And what happens next is amazing.
01:06:22.000 Two of the stewards double the money, and Jesus says, Enter the joy of the Lord.
01:06:26.000 Well done, good and faithful servant.
01:06:29.000 The third steward doesn't invest it and he says, You're worthless steward, give it back to the one who multiplied the money.
01:06:36.000 So there's a great deal to learn in there of putting money to work.
01:06:40.000 I love this.
01:06:41.000 So, basic concepts to catch people up.
01:06:44.000 The Bible is really about business from beginning to end.
01:06:48.000 It's about the God's kingdom.
01:06:50.000 The Bible is about all of human existence and life.
01:06:53.000 Right.
01:06:53.000 But there are so many stories about business.
01:06:55.000 And we're talking about this parable of the talents.
01:06:59.000 So he gives a measure of value to three people.
01:07:06.000 Two of them create wealth out of that, one does not.
01:07:09.000 And there's a huge takeaway here that you were building up to that I'm just.
01:07:14.000 I'm very interested in how you analyze this.
01:07:17.000 So please continue.
01:07:19.000 So just imagine, you know, I'm a Wall Street guy on Wall Street for 20 years, and I'm reading this parable after having read it many times and seeing it different for the first time and realizing that what Jesus is talking about is what the best money managers in the world do every single day on Wall Street.
01:07:34.000 And so two of the managers are rewarded for doubling the money, 2x, multiplying their capital, right?
01:07:40.000 And that's every manager's mandate, right?
01:07:43.000 And they do it through a disciplined process.
01:07:45.000 But what's fascinating is he calls the third manager worthless because the third manager was afraid.
01:07:50.000 And he was afraid to take risks.
01:07:52.000 He was afraid to invest.
01:07:53.000 And he said, Take the talents from the third manager and give it to the other stewards who double the capital.
01:07:58.000 So there's lots of lessons in that.
01:08:00.000 One, if you're faithful with a few things, you'll be faithful with much.
01:08:03.000 Two, there's a discipline process for doubling and multiplying your capital.
01:08:08.000 But three, we can't go through life afraid.
01:08:11.000 We need to take risks and be good stewards.
01:08:13.000 So the good stewards are the ones who put the money to work because when you put money to work, you create jobs.
01:08:19.000 Right?
01:08:20.000 You double capital and you can reinvest that.
01:08:22.000 You can be generous to the poor.
01:08:24.000 So money doesn't stay still.
01:08:25.000 It needs to be put to work.
01:08:27.000 And Jesus clearly teaches that.
01:08:29.000 Yeah.
01:08:30.000 It's very clear.
01:08:31.000 It was interesting in the break, Nicholas.
01:08:33.000 We were going, well, what about the parable of the vineyard?
01:08:36.000 And then what about the parable?
01:08:38.000 Yeah.
01:08:38.000 Or the king who forgives the great debt of his servant.
01:08:41.000 Yeah.
01:08:42.000 Or, you know, the people that get paid, you know, that only work one hour, they get paid the same wage.
01:08:46.000 We're like, ah, these are applying to different ones on salvation, one's about the prophets, and then he sends his son.
01:08:52.000 But it really is interesting when you start reexamining scripture through, like, what is the lesson for us as people of business, right?
01:09:01.000 And that is a huge part of our lives.
01:09:04.000 So, of course, God would speak to that.
01:09:05.000 And I think that's the breakthrough.
01:09:07.000 What would you say if people are saying, you know, you got young entrepreneurs out there, maybe old entrepreneurs, and they're like, okay, what can the business Bible do for me?
01:09:17.000 How could I apply it today?
01:09:19.000 That's right.
01:09:19.000 So, Andrew, it's not just a narrative, it's one of the primary narratives.
01:09:23.000 Just think about that God, He works in creation.
01:09:26.000 And he creates us to work, and then he commands us to work six days.
01:09:30.000 So, God wants us to do the thing that he created us to do and that we love to do, right?
01:09:35.000 And so, the Bible helps us discover work the way he originally designed.
01:09:39.000 And so, for young people, entrepreneurs, business people, the first step is to discover that we are created to work, and work is how we meet our own needs, and business is how we multiply our work and meet others' needs.
01:09:52.000 And one of the seminal questions Jesus says is Who is the wise and faithful steward?
01:09:58.000 I will reward him for all his work and put him in charge of all my possessions.
01:10:01.000 So, this isn't an interesting take on the Bible.
01:10:05.000 It's one of the primary narratives.
01:10:08.000 And we spend most of our time at work Monday through Friday or Saturday.
01:10:12.000 And so, it's a way for us to understand and how to express our faith and work.
01:10:16.000 But I will say this the Bible works whether you believe in it or not.
01:10:21.000 So, that was the amazing discovery for me on Wall Street.
01:10:23.000 And all of my colleagues wanted to know how did Jesus double the money?
01:10:27.000 What else does it say about work?
01:10:29.000 It's important for us to begin to discover, rediscover work the way it was originally designed, especially these young entrepreneurs and students.
01:10:37.000 Yeah, I totally love this, reorienting the way that you think about business.
01:10:42.000 With the Bible at the center of your pursuit of your next project or your next business entrepreneurial project.
01:10:49.000 So I love this.
01:10:51.000 And I also think about we talked about Joseph.
01:10:54.000 Joseph oversaw the biggest economy in the world.
01:10:57.000 And it's that famous verse, what the enemy meant for evil, like God meant for good and the saving of many lives.
01:11:03.000 And that really is this higher calling of business, right?
01:11:07.000 There's so much demonizing of business people, productive people, successful people.
01:11:11.000 But you think about all the life saving technologies.
01:11:13.000 You think about how.
01:11:15.000 Global poverty has been, and starvation and malnutrition has been alleviated through business, through supply chains, all of these amazing innovations.
01:11:25.000 So I love this because it's reframing business as a force for good, as a force for righteousness if we steward it well.
01:11:32.000 So I guess we are working with you on this here.
01:11:36.000 So people can get this at thebusinessbible.com, right?
01:11:40.000 Businessbible.com.
01:11:41.000 And we have some pictures of actual product we could throw up, but tell us how people can engage with the Business Bible.
01:11:47.000 Well, go to businessbible.comslash Charlie, right?
01:11:52.000 And, you know, I think it's a great project for the current generation and next generation.
01:11:58.000 You know, we need to get out and vote in November.
01:12:01.000 We need to go to church on Sundays.
01:12:03.000 But one of the greatest things we can do to change the world is go to work Monday morning and find purpose in our work Monday through Friday.
01:12:11.000 You know, business is designed to meet people's needs, and good business does that well.
01:12:17.000 And so it's just a change, it reorients our.
01:12:21.000 Are thinking about work and business.
01:12:23.000 And business is not divisive.
01:12:25.000 Politics can be divisive.
01:12:26.000 We have a cultural divide.
01:12:28.000 Business creates unity, especially when you create value and meet the needs of your customers.
01:12:35.000 So that's what the Business Bible is all about.
01:12:37.000 It's about helping people discover business the way it's designed, five, six days a week.
01:12:42.000 And it's also about equipping people with their faith to overcome that Sunday, Monday gap.
01:12:48.000 I love this.
01:12:49.000 So I think if there are young, Entrepreneurs listening to this, I just compel you.
01:12:56.000 One of the best pieces of advice I ever got in my career was just add value.
01:13:00.000 Wherever you go, add value, add value, meet the needs.
01:13:03.000 And that's what you're saying here, really.
01:13:05.000 And that's the lesson of scripture.
01:13:07.000 So you think about AI, you think about all these anxieties that are facing the next generation, and they're real.
01:13:14.000 We talk about those a lot on this show.
01:13:16.000 But the Bible is clear that if you're a faithful steward and multiply the wealth, there will be an opportunity for you to do that.
01:13:23.000 That is like a, it's almost like God has given.
01:13:26.000 Human beings, this ability to multiply wealth and multiply value.
01:13:30.000 And the promise is there that if you do that, there will be benefit that comes out of that if you follow God's precepts and God's ways.
01:13:37.000 Final minute to you, Nicholas.
01:13:38.000 And it's businessbible.comslash Charlie.
01:13:40.000 I love this project so, so much, Nicholas.
01:13:43.000 I just think it's so important.
01:13:44.000 Final 45 seconds to you.
01:13:46.000 Solomon said he was the wisest and wealthiest man ever to walk the face of the earth.
01:13:51.000 His wealth was even greater than Elon Musk's.
01:13:54.000 And when you do the calculation, Solomon said there's nothing better than being satisfied in your work.
01:14:00.000 And I've really found that to be true.
01:14:02.000 When we can express our faith at work, when we can use our God given abilities and talents at work and in business to meet other people's needs, there's nothing better.
01:14:13.000 And I think it'd be great for our country to rediscover the purpose of work Monday through Friday and build a better future together.
01:14:21.000 Amen.
01:14:22.000 Nicholas Leone, founder of the Business Bible.
01:14:25.000 Check it out businessbible.comslash Charlie.
01:14:27.000 This was very, very cool.
01:14:29.000 And I want to have you back on to get even more into the specifics, Nicholas.
01:14:33.000 BusinessBible.comslash Charlie.
01:14:34.000 We'll see you guys tomorrow.
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