The Charlie Kirk Show - May 23, 2024


Nikki Haley Endorses Trump + Biden’s Border Band-Aid


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00:00:01.000 Nikki Haley endorses Trump.
00:00:03.000 What should we think about that?
00:00:05.000 And also, Joe Biden is throwing money around to make his problems go away.
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00:02:53.000 What if I told you the polls might be right?
00:02:57.000 Now, even if they were right, it means nothing.
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00:03:04.000 We are seeing piece of evidence after piece of evidence that Joe Biden's internal numbers are terrible.
00:03:10.000 He wants to go debate Donald Trump a month from now in the mid-summer.
00:03:14.000 To try to resurrect his poll numbers pre-convention.
00:03:14.000 Why?
00:03:17.000 Joe Biden is not acting like a confident leader.
00:03:20.000 Joe Biden is moving at a pace to do things that are bad for the country, but potentially could help his reelection bid.
00:03:29.000 This is politics at its worst.
00:03:31.000 He is doing things to try and increase his ability to tighten the polls to at least make it self-viable coming into this November.
00:03:41.000 There are two things that tyrants use: fear and free stuff.
00:03:47.000 Fear and free stuff.
00:03:49.000 We cover this extensively on this program.
00:03:52.000 Fear of someone knocking on the door and they're going to raid your home.
00:03:56.000 Free stuff, whether it be student loan relief, extra cash and money to certain communities and areas that he needs to do better in.
00:04:06.000 There is one issue that Joe Biden desperately wants to go away.
00:04:10.000 He wants to make it disappear, and he's trying his best to make the media no longer cover it.
00:04:17.000 It is an issue that he is losing 70-30 on among swing voters in swing states, and even worse in states like here in Arizona and in Texas.
00:04:27.000 And that is the all-full-out invasion on the United States southern border.
00:04:32.000 Joe Biden wants the border to no longer be an issue, and we have to keep the pressure on that we cannot forget what is happening on a daily basis on the southern border.
00:04:44.000 Joe Biden has said that he is now able to secure the border on his own or at least stem the tide of migrants coming into the country.
00:04:54.000 Before he said, Oh, I need Congress's help.
00:04:56.000 Now he's saying, Well, yeah, I can stem the tide here or there.
00:05:00.000 In a story that was not well reported, Lopez Obador, who is the president of Mexico, by the way, he's going to be replaced with an even more left-wing socialist woman in Mexico.
00:05:15.000 The United States approved a plan to deploy $20 billion to Latin America and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, and remove all sanctions against Venezuela, and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally in the United States.
00:05:33.000 Joe Biden is paying Mexico to try and solve the border crisis for him.
00:05:39.000 Joe Biden knows that the border is so bad for his reelection chances that he is bribing a foreign government to solve the problem for him so you guys can forget about it.
00:05:51.000 I want to play a couple pieces of tape here that are chilling.
00:05:54.000 This is Cut 76.
00:05:55.000 Bill Melusian from Fox News.
00:05:57.000 He reports that for the first time since the 1990s, the San Diego sector is seeing the most illegal crossings.
00:06:04.000 Masses of men in the Middle East and Asia are pouring in from Iran, China, Pakistan.
00:06:10.000 Not a single Mexican.
00:06:12.000 This is an international invasion of the United States of America.
00:06:17.000 Iran, China, Pakistan.
00:06:20.000 I'm not one to try to spread fear just to try to get clicks or ratings.
00:06:25.000 But how many sleeper cells are in this country right now?
00:06:29.000 How many Chinese or Iranian terrorists are embedded in our communities?
00:06:36.000 Play Cut 76.
00:06:38.000 For the first time since the 1990s, Border Patrol's San Diego sector is now seeing the most illegal crossings of anywhere on the southern border.
00:06:47.000 And we were out here during the overnight hours as masses of men from around the world came through here.
00:06:52.000 Take a look at this video.
00:06:53.000 This was 2 a.m., right where I'm standing, right here in Hacumba, California, about an hour east of downtown San Diego, as we watch men from the Middle East and Asia pouring in here very nonchalantly as they cross illegally.
00:07:07.000 Several of them are what are known as special interest aliens.
00:07:10.000 That means they are coming in from countries with potential national security concerns and they should be subject to additional DHS vetting.
00:07:18.000 We talked to these guys.
00:07:19.000 There was not a single one of them from Mexico.
00:07:23.000 Not a single one of them from Mexico.
00:07:28.000 You are being invaded on a daily basis of military age men.
00:07:35.000 You're being invaded by Earth.
00:07:37.000 The planet is invading you.
00:07:40.000 And Joe Biden has no concern whatsoever to try and reverse this.
00:07:47.000 This is not people fleeing poverty.
00:07:49.000 This is not people that are trying to find a better life.
00:07:52.000 This is not even people that are fleeing violence.
00:07:57.000 This is the entire world getting the message.
00:08:00.000 America is a store getting looted.
00:08:03.000 Game on.
00:08:05.000 The same looting that you saw during Floyd Palooza, when criminals went and stole big screen TVs and took whatever they wanted from stores across the country in the spirit of racial justice and reparations.
00:08:21.000 The entire world knows that it is open season on America.
00:08:26.000 Joe Biden does not care about this country.
00:08:28.000 He is a traitor to this country, and he has been a traitor to this country.
00:08:33.000 The border alone is an act of treason.
00:08:37.000 But he has one concern, and the concern is the polls.
00:08:42.000 That what is happening with his internal tracking numbers, you can see it by how he is acting.
00:08:50.000 He is bribing the Mexican government to try to make the border issue go away.
00:08:54.000 But it's even worse than people realize.
00:08:57.000 Play cut 69.
00:08:59.000 And of course, the numbers don't lie.
00:09:01.000 Since Biden took office in January 2021, nearly 7 million migrants have been recorded entering the United States illegally.
00:09:10.000 And roughly 1.7 million, in addition to that, have come through without apprehension that are known to border authorities through certain sensors along the borderline.
00:09:21.000 Not only that, but the Biden administration has introduced several legal pathways that allow migrants to enter the country without crossing the border illegally.
00:09:30.000 One of those is a parole scheme that allows Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans to fly directly into U.S. airports.
00:09:38.000 That has included roughly 400,000 individuals since the program has started.
00:09:44.000 In addition to that, there have been roughly 600,000 individuals who have entered the country through ports using a phone app that the Biden administration allows them to use for entry into the United States.
00:09:59.000 When Biden has a political problem, his instinct is as follows, to buy votes with your money, betray our allies for uncommitted voters, or simply ignore the law.
00:10:11.000 Joe Biden has a problem with black voters, so he delays a menthol cigarette ban and tells HBCU graduates that America hates him.
00:10:18.000 Joe Biden has a problem with younger voters, so he defies SCOTUS and forgives $167 billion of student loans with taxpayer money.
00:10:27.000 Joe Biden has a problem with undecided voters, so he delays arms shipments to Israel and sends billions of dollars to its enemies.
00:10:34.000 Joe Biden has a popularity problem with Americans, so he imports millions of third worlders who might just vote for him.
00:10:40.000 Joe Biden has a problem with high gas prices.
00:10:42.000 So what is he doing this last weekend?
00:10:44.000 He announced he's ransacking the strategic petroleum reserve.
00:10:49.000 And Joe Biden mainly has a Trump problem.
00:10:52.000 So he turns America into a banana republic and tries and throws him to prison for 700 years.
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00:12:13.000 You know, when somebody invades your country and they're even worried about who's invading alongside of them, you probably have a problem.
00:12:24.000 What do they know that we don't know?
00:12:26.000 Well, Bill Melusian has been doing heroes work on the border, and he just went up to a man from Turkey.
00:12:34.000 Now, for those of you that are not geography experts, Turkey is on a different continent.
00:12:40.000 It's actually many continents away, actually.
00:12:42.000 It's not through the Darien Gap.
00:12:44.000 It's not some sort of Mexican villager that is fleeing cartel violence.
00:12:49.000 It's not someone coming from Guatemala that's in search of a better life.
00:12:52.000 This is from Turkey, a Turkish man.
00:12:56.000 In this clip, a Turkish man who illegally crossed into Jacumba, California, was interviewed.
00:13:05.000 And he said that there is no background test, no DNA test.
00:13:12.000 I'm sorry, it's hacumba.
00:13:13.000 Got it.
00:13:15.000 And he comes to the United States with no resistance, saying America should be worried.
00:13:20.000 So this guy's invading our country.
00:13:21.000 And by the way, he says, hey, just so you guys know, you should be really worried about who's coming into this country.
00:13:26.000 Like super worried.
00:13:28.000 And he paid the cartels $10,000 to cross.
00:13:32.000 Play cut 118.
00:13:33.000 Did you have to pay a cartel?
00:13:35.000 Yes.
00:13:36.000 How much?
00:13:37.000 Around $10,000.
00:13:38.000 $10,000?
00:13:39.000 Yes.
00:13:39.000 In fact, the American people is right.
00:13:41.000 Completely true.
00:13:42.000 Who come into this country?
00:13:44.000 They don't know.
00:13:44.000 Okay, I'm good, but how if they're not good?
00:13:47.000 How they have killers, psychopaths?
00:13:49.000 No guarantee of that.
00:13:50.000 Why, like, like, no, no security, no security check.
00:13:54.000 No background check.
00:13:55.000 No security check, no background check.
00:13:57.000 You're worrying about who's crossing the border?
00:13:59.000 Yes, yes.
00:14:00.000 Of course, me to sound like people are not look normal.
00:14:04.000 People are not normal.
00:14:05.000 And by the way, that's all men.
00:14:07.000 He's around.
00:14:08.000 You get a picture of who's actually coming across the border.
00:14:12.000 Not exactly a right-wing activist.
00:14:14.000 Brett Weinstein was recently on Tucker Carlson's podcast, and he went down to the Darien Gap.
00:14:20.000 The Darien Gap, by the way, is a nearly impassable jungle on the southern tip of Panama, which connects to Colombia.
00:14:30.000 And it's usually very hard to navigate.
00:14:32.000 And now the Darien Gap is open.
00:14:35.000 And hundreds of thousands of people are going to the Darien Gap.
00:14:37.000 The new government of Panama, by the way, they're pledging to actually close the Darien Gap, which is terrific.
00:14:42.000 We need that.
00:14:43.000 And just make no mistake, our government and our NGOs are the ones that are facilitating this invasion all the way through Central and South America.
00:14:52.000 And then you have Turks that are coming.
00:14:54.000 And Turkey, which is not exactly like the friendliest country in the United States, they're in NATO, but and this guy who's being interviewed on camera, he knows he's not going to get deported.
00:15:02.000 He gets a cell phone.
00:15:03.000 He gets a free trip in the United States.
00:15:05.000 People are not normal.
00:15:06.000 That's his statement.
00:15:09.000 Makes you wonder who he saw, who he's been around.
00:15:12.000 Joe Biden is allowing and facilitating and co-sponsoring the steady flow of military-aged men to embed themselves into your communities.
00:15:24.000 They might be attacking critical infrastructure, hospitals, schools, the grid.
00:15:32.000 The military-aged men very well might be mercenaries, intel operatives, relaying information back to China, and all it takes is one.
00:15:43.000 And we bring them into our country under the guise of diversity is our strength and borders are racist.
00:15:52.000 Joe Biden knows he's losing on this topic, and so he's trying to bribe the Mexican government to help him with it.
00:15:59.000 Thankfully, the polling, it's not working at all.
00:16:02.000 And we are seeing immigration and mass deportations be a winning issue across the board.
00:16:10.000 The more you talk about immigration as a Republican candidate, the better your numbers are.
00:16:15.000 Why?
00:16:15.000 Because Americans have two things simultaneously that they're seeing, and there's more than that.
00:16:19.000 Number one, their dollar is worth less and less because the easy money tactics by the ruling class is deteriorating the purchasing power of the dollar in your pocket.
00:16:29.000 Secondly, open borders and mass migration is flooding our social services, flooding our communities, increasing crime, and resulting in potentially an unprecedented sleeper cell network of a couple hundred, couple thousand, tens of thousands of military-age mercenaries that could be activated at any time.
00:16:51.000 I say this and the media laughs at me.
00:16:54.000 I hope you own a lot of weapons.
00:16:57.000 I hope you own guns because what is coming next, we don't know.
00:17:01.000 If they all of a sudden turn the switch on and there's a couple hundred of these sleeper cell mercenaries, that's a guy crossing the border from Turkey telling us that, yeah, maybe you guys should be doing some background checks.
00:17:12.000 No background checks if you come into America because diversity is our strength.
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00:19:15.000 Yesterday there was some breaking news.
00:19:18.000 Nikki Haley has said that she will be voting for Donald Trump.
00:19:24.000 Now in this program, we've not become fans of Nikki Haley in the last year and a half, couple years.
00:19:29.000 She's a neocon.
00:19:31.000 She's a neoliberal.
00:19:33.000 She's a neo-colonialist.
00:19:34.000 She wants to see the great American empire expand.
00:19:39.000 Seems she has more concern for the fringes of the American empire than the center of our country.
00:19:47.000 Now, whether you like Nikki Haley or not, and I've always said this, despite the nasty emails I receive, I've always been friendly with Nikki Haley, and she's always been very good to turning point USA in the past.
00:19:59.000 Obviously, as the primary was heating up, that went into great suspense.
00:20:04.000 But Nikki Haley is not dumb.
00:20:08.000 Nikki Haley can read the room.
00:20:10.000 Nikki Haley wants a political future.
00:20:13.000 And Nikki Haley is not ideologically compatible with the America First conservative agenda that Donald Trump is pushing forward.
00:20:24.000 However, Nikki Haley received 4 million votes, specifically 4.3 million votes in the primary.
00:20:35.000 About 20% of the primary vote.
00:20:37.000 Now, some of you might say, but Charlie, some of those are Democrats crossing over.
00:20:41.000 Totally fair point.
00:20:43.000 So let's say that Nikki Haley got 3 million votes.
00:20:46.000 That is a sizable number.
00:20:48.000 Politics is the art and science of addition and multiplication, not division and subtraction, especially as you get closer and closer to an election.
00:21:02.000 As long as you are not sacrificing or forsaking your core principles and values, you want as many people to join the train as possible.
00:21:12.000 Now is not the time for inner party acrimony.
00:21:16.000 If our candidate and our leader believes in a clear agenda, which President Trump does, and Nikki Haley wants to get on the train, that is welcome news because we want to win.
00:21:32.000 Play cut 114.
00:21:34.000 As a voter, I put my priorities on a president who's going to have the backs of our allies and hold our enemies to account, who would secure the border, no more excuses.
00:21:52.000 A president who would support capitalism and freedom.
00:21:58.000 A president who understands we need less debt, not more debt.
00:22:04.000 Trump has not been perfect on these policies.
00:22:07.000 I've made that clear many, many times.
00:22:11.000 But Biden has been a catastrophe.
00:22:15.000 So I will be voting for Trump.
00:22:18.000 Now, let's analyze this.
00:22:20.000 Why is Nikki doing this?
00:22:22.000 Because she's a believer in the MAGA doctrine, which, by the way, that's a good book that we should start promoting.
00:22:27.000 And I wrote that four years ago.
00:22:28.000 It's just as applicable today as it was back then.
00:22:31.000 Side note, no.
00:22:33.000 Nikki Haley wants more money for Ukraine.
00:22:36.000 I guess you'd want to secure the border.
00:22:38.000 She'd be better than Biden.
00:22:39.000 She is not one of us.
00:22:42.000 However, she represents a constituency, a constituency that is more neoliberal, neolonialist, neoconservative in its posture, received 4.3 million votes in the primary.
00:22:55.000 And we want as much support as we can get in this election year.
00:23:01.000 And Nikki Haley is not dumb.
00:23:03.000 In fact, she is very, very smart.
00:23:07.000 She sees your power and she wants to get back in your good graces.
00:23:14.000 She sees the power of this movement.
00:23:17.000 She sees the ascendant nature of Donald Trump.
00:23:22.000 And Nikki Haley is making a prudent decision for her own purposes because she actually wants to have some form of a political future, running for the presidency in the future, running for Senate maybe in South Carolina.
00:23:39.000 Don't discount that.
00:23:40.000 If Donald Trump were to choose Tim Scott as vice president, which is not my top choice, but Tim Scott's a good man, and all of a sudden there's an open Senate seat, don't sleep on Nikki Haley running for the Senate race in South Carolina.
00:23:52.000 Don't sleep on that.
00:23:54.000 Or Lindsey Graham, Lady Graham, maybe he resigns.
00:23:57.000 She runs for the Senate there.
00:24:00.000 So she's not dumb because she reads the room and she knows that you're in charge.
00:24:06.000 Now, some of you might say, but Charlie, she's trying to game us.
00:24:08.000 Well, not really, because at this point, it's almost nothing but upside.
00:24:12.000 We're in charge.
00:24:14.000 She's not going to win the nomination with the delegate stuff in Milwaukee.
00:24:18.000 Not going to happen.
00:24:19.000 The delegates, signed, seated, signed, sealed, and delivered.
00:24:21.000 It's MAGA all the way through.
00:24:23.000 Not going to happen.
00:24:25.000 But what it does show is that Donald Trump is consolidating even the more adversarial, rough edges of the Republican Party.
00:24:36.000 Dare I say this right now, given all the tumult and rancor with Israel and the Palestinian conflict, the Republican Party is looking more united presidentially than even the Democrat Party.
00:24:56.000 And the Democrats are losing it over that.
00:24:59.000 Nikki Haley went from a darling of the media and now she's an enemy to democracy.
00:25:05.000 Play cut 122.
00:25:07.000 What we have learned about her, the most cynical, the most negative critical people about Nikki Haley have always said: she is ambition incarnate.
00:25:17.000 She cannot believe a word out of her mouth.
00:25:20.000 She will say whatever, and she will change her mind from Monday to Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
00:25:25.000 I want to say here that A, we should never believe a word she says about anything ever again.
00:25:31.000 And B, she must not be allowed by Republican voters who continue to go to the polls.
00:25:38.000 She still is getting 20% of the vote.
00:25:40.000 Right.
00:25:41.000 This month, yeah, there's still 20% of Republicans in these primaries are still voting for her.
00:25:45.000 They must not let her in November.
00:25:48.000 So let me be very clear.
00:25:50.000 Some of you say, but Charlie, we can't believe what she's saying.
00:25:52.000 I'm not saying she's even believing what she's saying.
00:25:53.000 I'm saying her saying it creates space for her couple million of voters to then go to Trump.
00:26:02.000 That's why they're freaking out.
00:26:04.000 I'm not saying Nikki doesn't like Trump.
00:26:07.000 She wanted to defeat him.
00:26:08.000 She's reading the room.
00:26:10.000 And you contrast that, by the way.
00:26:12.000 You contrast that with how Mike Pence handled things.
00:26:17.000 Not sure what tape Mike Pence says here.
00:26:20.000 But Mike Pence went on Fox News and said, I will not be voting for Trump.
00:26:24.000 Mike Pence does not represent a majority of the Republican Party.
00:26:29.000 Mike Pence has a couple million people that are probably sympathetic to him.
00:26:33.000 However, if we're talking about 10,000 ballots in Arizona and 10,000 ballots in Georgia and 20,000 ballots in Wisconsin, it is rational to try and build a base of as many different people.
00:26:47.000 Now, Mike Pence, unlike Nikki Haley, does not want a political future.
00:26:51.000 Mike Pence, I think, wants to maybe run for parliament in Ukraine.
00:26:56.000 Play cut 121.
00:26:58.000 Will you be endorsing your former president?
00:27:01.000 You were on the ticket with him last time around.
00:27:05.000 Well, Martha, I appreciate the question.
00:27:08.000 And it should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year.
00:27:12.000 Donald Trump is pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years.
00:27:21.000 And that's why I cannot, in good conscience, endorse Donald Trump in this campaign.
00:27:27.000 That's what they wanted from Nikki.
00:27:29.000 They wanted Nikki to do that.
00:27:31.000 And Nikki didn't.
00:27:33.000 Nikki instead bent the knee and said that Trump is the nominee I'm voting for Trump.
00:27:39.000 That is an excellent thing.
00:27:41.000 Don't convince yourself otherwise.
00:27:45.000 And some of you are emailing us: well, you know, Nikki is this.
00:27:47.000 You can't trust her.
00:27:48.000 Of course, I totally hear all that.
00:27:50.000 That's not the point.
00:27:51.000 The point is: do you want her supporters signaled to vote for Trump?
00:27:56.000 It's not the time for ideological purity tests.
00:27:59.000 It's not the time for that.
00:28:00.000 We're not talking about her being the running mate.
00:28:02.000 We're not talking about her being in the cabinet.
00:28:04.000 All that stuff is dead on arrival.
00:28:05.000 It's not going to happen.
00:28:07.000 Instead, that signal weakens the left, and therefore I support it.
00:28:11.000 Nikki endorsing Trump and voting for Trump weakens the Marxists.
00:28:16.000 Bad day for the Democrats.
00:28:18.000 Win for us.
00:28:19.000 Bad day for MSNBC.
00:28:20.000 Win for us.
00:28:22.000 In 2016, a lot of people who didn't like Trump too much ultimately decided he was better than Hillary.
00:28:26.000 He needed them to win.
00:28:28.000 They're terrified people are making that calculation again.
00:28:31.000 And Nikki, the way she said that in that video, is how millions of suburban moms are looking at this election.
00:28:38.000 I don't love Trump, but he was a better president.
00:28:42.000 And Nikki saying that improves our chances of victory in November, regardless of your understandable and probably accurate opinions about her personal ambition and her political calculation.
00:28:56.000 Politics, successfully administered, is about addition and multiplication, not division and subtraction.
00:29:07.000 I want to go through some of the objections here because they are legitimate.
00:29:11.000 One says, Charlie, can't stand Nikki Haley.
00:29:14.000 I will not vote for a rhino.
00:29:15.000 I'm not asking you to vote for her.
00:29:17.000 She should not be the vice president.
00:29:19.000 No way.
00:29:19.000 She shouldn't be in the cabinet.
00:29:20.000 That's not what I'm saying.
00:29:21.000 I'm saying that she's going to vote the way that you vote.
00:29:23.000 You should want to have as many people voting for your candidate as possible.
00:29:26.000 That's how you win.
00:29:28.000 You win through consensus and movement building.
00:29:31.000 Someone says here, Charlie, wise up.
00:29:32.000 Nikki is ruthless and always plotting against MAGA.
00:29:35.000 She was a Jeb supporter.
00:29:36.000 She's a Rogue darling.
00:29:37.000 No disagreement.
00:29:38.000 The point is: who would you want her to vote for?
00:29:40.000 And then another one says, But Charlie, how do we know she'll actually vote for Trump?
00:29:44.000 We don't.
00:29:45.000 But what she says publicly is actually more important than her one private vote in South Carolina.
00:29:50.000 What she says publicly creates the intellectual space and the consensus that Trump is the guy, that Trump is the guy.
00:29:57.000 And whether we like it or not, there are millions of people that hate Joe Biden, that are center-right, that sympathize more with Nikki Haley, and we need those people.
00:30:06.000 Why?
00:30:07.000 Well, number one, you need their votes to win.
00:30:08.000 Number two, they vote in huge numbers.
00:30:12.000 The turnout of center-right suburban voters is massive.
00:30:18.000 Finally, someone says, Charlie, you're a fool and Nikki Haley is a demonic lying snake.
00:30:22.000 We should call her out.
00:30:24.000 You know, I totally disagree.
00:30:26.000 I'm not going to get into the details today there.
00:30:28.000 But again, the question is: should you want to have more and more people support your candidacy or not?
00:30:34.000 Because MSNBC told you how they react to this.
00:30:37.000 They lost their mind.
00:30:39.000 Play Cut 123.
00:30:41.000 When I heard the Haley video, I thought it was from the campaign.
00:30:44.000 You know, I thought it was from the primary because she was talking about someone who would stand with our allies.
00:30:48.000 And as Joe said, talking about debt, she can't even be intellectually consistent in the moment that she's saying she's going to vote for Trump.
00:30:58.000 And it just, you know, it contributes so much to cynicism and it lifts up Trump's message that, like, see, none of this matters.
00:31:07.000 It's all just a game.
00:31:09.000 MSNBC spot on.
00:31:10.000 It lifts up Trump's message.
00:31:12.000 It makes Donald Trump the irrefutable leader, full-spectrum dominance of the party.
00:31:17.000 And that's a compliment to you.
00:31:18.000 Now, you got to be on your guard.
00:31:20.000 You got to be wise, gentle as a dove, and wise as a serpent, as it says in the book of Matthew.
00:31:25.000 You can't just invite snakes into your inner sanctum.
00:31:28.000 We're not talking about that.
00:31:30.000 But what would we rather have her say at the Hudson Institute?
00:31:32.000 Can you imagine Nikki Haley said yesterday, I will not be voting for Trump, and I'm actively going to try to get as many Republicans not to do that.
00:31:38.000 That stuff adds up.
00:31:41.000 We're not saying that you should get behind Nikki Haley.
00:31:43.000 We're saying that you should be thrilled that the likes of Nikki Haley see the writing on the wall.
00:31:49.000 They understand what the movement actually is.
00:31:52.000 And they're going to try to shape-shift and try to make themselves seem more MAGA than they really are.
00:31:57.000 The Democrats were counting on being able to have people like Pence, Nikki Haley, defect from Donald Trump.
00:32:07.000 You should want to have people that otherwise were working against you to vote in harmony with you.
00:32:12.000 So I think it's an excellent thing.
00:32:14.000 I think it's terrific that more and more people realize the momentum and the velocity of what is coming into November.
00:32:23.000 And the question is: would you rather she told her couple million supporters and her donors to go vote for Biden?
00:32:30.000 You might say, well, Charlie, we don't want their donors.
00:32:32.000 We have to raise money.
00:32:33.000 We are getting outraised.
00:32:35.000 And you can raise money without having to sacrifice your core principles.
00:32:38.000 President Trump does this very well.
00:32:40.000 So Nikki Haley has now signaled basically she has laid down her arms and she'll passively support Trump.
00:32:49.000 Okay.
00:32:49.000 Or maybe not.
00:32:50.000 It doesn't really matter.
00:32:52.000 What matters is what she's saying publicly.
00:32:55.000 And that, I could tell you, I had so many people text that to me of never Trumpers, anti-Trumpers that say, boy, I might hold my nose and just vote for Trump.
00:33:04.000 I might just vote for Trump.
00:33:05.000 Good.
00:33:06.000 We need your vote.
00:33:08.000 We need every single person to vote.
00:33:10.000 And I understand, by the way, after November in 2025, Project, you know what the true project 2025 is?
00:33:17.000 The true project 2025 is we can have those ideological purity tests.
00:33:21.000 That's what primaries are for.
00:33:23.000 That's what off-elections are for.
00:33:24.000 But as we are trying to save a civilization, we need to add and multiply, join forces.
00:33:32.000 And I'm not making an argument in favor of Nikki Haley.
00:33:35.000 I see the naked ambition just like you do.
00:33:38.000 But MSNBC's reaction tells you everything.
00:33:41.000 They're freaking out.
00:33:42.000 They hate her for it.
00:33:43.000 They see the 4 million voters as low-hanging fruit for Biden.
00:33:49.000 I am here just a mile and a half away from a stronghold of Nikki Haley that voted overwhelmingly for Biden.
00:33:56.000 That is McCain country.
00:33:58.000 Her saying that she would vote for Trump weakens that sort of outreach.
00:34:04.000 And just so we're clear, this election could come down to 50,000 votes.
00:34:08.000 So let's get everyone we can to say that they're voting for Trump and do so publicly.
00:34:15.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:34:19.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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